Time Nick Message 23:50 Brooke :) 23:50 rangi hi Brooke 23:49 Brooke 0/ 23:49 bg hi Brooke 23:49 Brooke kia ora 21:45 rangi night 21:44 cait good night #koha :) 21:44 cait probably a stupid thinking error somewhere 21:43 rangi ah 21:43 cait bye jared 21:43 cait and it's too late to figure out why 21:43 jcamins Bye. 21:43 jcamins Time for me to go home, since my server just went down. 21:43 cait my little perl program doesn't work 21:42 rangi ? 21:42 cait hmpf 21:11 rangi there are support companies in the us id recommend, and ones i wouldnt, i just havent put that down on paper 21:11 rangi i like the idea of it not being a community cert, but purely a peer one, i kinda operates this way informally anyway 20:55 slef I don't see there being a koha-community.org certificate. koha-community's big asset is being neutral. 20:54 slef Also, some of those 29 are probably stale or wouldn't request certs anyway. 20:54 slef It's good to look at other people's stuff anyway. 20:53 slef Anyway, I was expecting to do 1 or 2 a month, which means certifying 10 might only take 5 months. 20:52 slef A certificate is either issued or it's not. No voting (unless the CA wants to vote on it). 20:51 slef oh no, it doesn't work like that 20:51 jcamins Votes in favor of certification. 20:51 slef yeah, but what's a +1? 20:51 jcamins slef: I'm just making up a number there, but 3 is a nice number. 20:50 slef three +1s? 20:50 slef dang 20:49 jcamins That's a lot of work. 20:49 slef bbl 20:49 jcamins There are currently 29 vendors listed. If you require three +1s, that means that each vendor is approving certifying an average of 10 other vendors. 20:48 slef It may be possible one day to figure out a basis set of CAs along the lines of http://advogato.org/trust-metric.html seeds, but let's walk before we run. 20:47 slef If one of the CAs sucks, other providers will decertify or low-certify them. 20:46 slef "The Market for Lemons: Quality Uncertainty and the Market Mechanism" is a 1970 paper by the economist George Akerlof. It discusses information asymmetry, which occurs when the seller knows more about a product than the buyer. Akerlof, Michael Spence, and Joseph Stiglitz jointly received the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 2001 for their research related to... http://a.vu/w:The_Market_for_Lemons 20:45 slef Do you think any market for lemons exists? 20:45 jcamins There's also the problem of what do you do in a small ecosystem, if it turns out that one of the certifying authorities can't be trusted. 20:44 jcamins The latter. 20:44 slef jcamins: do you think there's a flaw in the implementation, or that the underlying problem doesn't need solving? 20:44 jcamins slef: not the peer-review/web-of-trust bit, just the idea of certifying Koha vendors in general. 20:44 jcamins slef: that is correct. 20:43 slef jcamins: you seemed unconvinced about the mutual certs idea. Is that right? 20:42 slef yeah, we log in with ssh keys but sudo is usually a pwgen password 20:41 rangi so i use my a lot 20:41 rangi when my user package is installed on a machine by a sysadmin, it pwgens a password, gpg encrypts that, and emails it to me (installs my ssh key too of course) so i can then login and do stuffs 20:40 slef or at least NAFAIK 20:40 * jcamins puts it on my to-do list. 20:39 slef jcamins: no, but you can feed your ssh keys to gpg-agent. 20:39 jcamins slef: oh, I thought the GPG key was linked irretrievably to the e-mail you used to set it up initially. 20:39 jcamins You can use GPG for authenticating into systems? 20:39 slef jcamins: err, update your expiry and add your new email address as a uid? 20:39 rangi which is good 20:39 rangi and yeah, the sysadmins wont give me passwords, in any form other than encrypted 20:38 jcamins Actually, I should probably get a new key which is linked to my current e-mail address. 20:38 slef jcamins: we have to use ours to get access to customer data. 20:38 rangi jcamins: i sign the tags with them, and my RM mail 20:38 wizzyrea hee! 20:38 slef wizzyrea: that BBC sports presenter keeps using it. I really notice it now. 20:38 jcamins slef: I never use my GPG key, which is why it expired. 20:38 slef jcamins: heh, that's such a common FU that the co-op has an alarm on our keyring to remind us to extend them. 20:38 * cait giggles with wizzyrea 20:38 wizzyrea that never gets old. 20:38 wizzyrea "ratbag" 20:37 * wizzyrea giggles 20:37 slef ratbag 20:37 rangi nope i forgot that too 20:37 jcamins rangi: if it makes you feel any better, my GPG key expired. 20:37 slef hey, did you sign mine at kohacon10? 20:36 rangi speaking of which, i again!!!! forgot to sign people gpg keys at ALA 20:31 jcamins Hm. 20:29 slef jcamins: the benefit is informing potential customers. I feel it would be better to spend 30mins reviewing another support provider in exchange for them reviewing us, than to spend 30mins posting marketingspeak that any old fraudster could write. 20:27 rangi i kinda like that 20:27 cait hm 20:27 slef then when the web of trust gets strong enough, I'd probably propose it's incorporated into the koha-community listing 20:27 rangi demo.mykoha.co.nz 20:26 slef (don't remember if catalyst host a sample site sorry :) ) 20:26 slef yeah, like we'd give bywater 4/5 almost immediately on request, as we keep hammering their public demo 20:24 rangi is that what you were thinking? 20:24 rangi bywater certified by equinox etc 20:24 rangi theres no standard, but catalyst might be certified by software.coop and bywater 20:24 jcamins Sounds like a lot of administrative work, for what seems to me limited benefit. 20:24 rangi ohh i see what you mean slef 20:22 cait :) 20:21 rangi still here cait :) 20:21 slef It's up to each certifier to decide their requirements, though. 20:21 rangi back 20:21 slef jcamins: the point is, many people would fail even that test. 20:20 slef # the co-op's members agree we would do business with them. 20:20 slef # we have seen recent basic business information (an annual report or similar); and/or 20:20 slef # they have been recorded as attending a Koha meeting in the last year; 20:20 slef # we regard them as a contributor to Koha in the last year; 20:20 slef ok, here's the other things I was thinking of: 20:19 jcamins What's the point of that? It only costs $5 and twenty minutes to meet a requirement like that (get a super-cheap vps, and install Koha). 20:17 slef I was thinking of fairly simple requirements like "we have tested the user interface of one of their Koha installations successfully". 20:16 slef I don't like certifying people. Someone can leave their organisation and lose access to their tools. 20:16 cait ah? 20:15 slef ah 20:14 cait ah, missed a rangi appearance 20:12 * cait reads back now 20:09 cait hm I missed most of the discussion - but organization being the sum of their members... sounds not so good when you are small 20:07 * wizzyrea has reservations about this, but will wait to see what you come up with 20:07 sekjal do it for individuals, not organizations. an organization would just be a sum of it's members in whatever aspects we'd want to measure 20:06 sekjal could be tied into karma, or other forms of "merit" 20:06 slef OK, let me draft a page for it 20:06 sekjal more applications than just certification 20:05 sekjal that sounds pretty neat 20:02 slef yeah, moodle partners is pay-to-play, we've looked at that before 20:02 slef the certifiers certify each other, peer-to-peer style 20:02 wizzyrea ^^ what he said 20:02 rangi mahara not moodle btw 20:02 rangi my stop bbiab 20:02 rangi who certifies the certifiers 20:01 rangi sure but aren't all certified ones 20:01 slef rangi: Please do, but isn't it a misnamed self-perpetuating group? 19:58 rangi kristina would know too 19:58 rangi I think they do some kinda certification 19:58 wizzyrea well you do probably 19:58 wizzyrea we know his asl :P 19:58 rangi ask even 19:58 rangi slef: I could asl francois about how the mahara partners thing works 19:55 sekjal I've been to two of the others already, so I'm not sure if that's enough, or if I'm going for the complete set... will ponder on it 19:54 slef let me know nearer the time if that's seriously a consideration and I'll keep an eye out for discount vouchers for you because it's eyewateringly expensive 19:53 sekjal ~Windsor 19:53 sekjal london is closer to Legoland Winsor 19:52 library_systems_guy thanks druthb :D 19:52 library_systems_guy yayyy 19:52 slef oleonard: well, both those cities are big enough to have a range of accommodation prices and tons to do, so that doesn't narrow it down much ;-) 19:52 * druthb will tuck library_systems_guy into her duffel bag for the trip. 19:52 rangi either works for me 19:51 oleonard I'd prefer less expensive accomodations over more to do and see, FWIW 19:51 * library_systems_guy wants to gooo 19:51 jcamins london++ 19:51 jcamins Let me try that again. 19:51 jcamins lond++ 19:51 jcamins edinburgh++ 19:51 jcamins So... 19:51 * jcamins loves Edinburgh, but London is close enough to Oxford to detour for a research trip. 19:50 slef I think we're most likely to go for London or Edinburgh - which would people prefer? 19:50 slef oleonard: UK is already on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Proposals_for_KohaCon12 but still lots to do 19:49 oleonard I'll take it. 19:49 wizzyrea closer like -- norway? 19:49 jcamins oleonard++ 19:49 oleonard Can someone please host KohaCon 2012 closer to me please? Thanks. 19:48 slef oleonard: yes 19:48 slef he looks nothing like the pic on the bywater website 19:47 rangi he probably did card tricks for ya :) 19:46 sekjal slef: yes, you met him at KohaCon '11 19:45 oleonard Were you and he at KohaCon in NZ slef? 19:43 slef I've met NateC haven't it? 19:42 rangi took an irc mental health break :) 19:41 oleonard Hi rangi, long time no see 19:41 rangi morning 19:30 * wizzyrea waves 19:30 wizzyrea I do 19:30 slef you do know he's reading this BTW? 19:30 slef hmmm... not sure how that will play 19:28 wizzyrea he will just need to prove that it did. 19:28 slef how can anyone prove something didn't happen? 19:28 wizzyrea clients... i have an apostrophe happy finger. 19:28 wizzyrea the point re: client's who didn't hire the company, would need proof 19:27 slef all the EDI-related dispute is more debatable... I guess we should have held payment until it was in master. Oh well, live and learn. 19:25 wizzyrea (I mean that) 19:25 wizzyrea I respect you greatly for your abstinence from poo-flinging. ;) 19:25 slef Yeah, I decided not to respond to most of those because I don't see what good it would do. 19:24 slef but I'm not going to let him game me out of being the co-op's koha-community liaison... I'm already not our membership manager nor our data controller because of those disputes. 19:24 wizzyrea I personally don't like all of the personal jabs, it could have been a lot more professional. 19:23 slef yeah, it plays into two other disputes which I'm not handling 19:22 wizzyrea because there is a lot of interpersonal stuff around it 19:22 wizzyrea this particular request is extremely grey 19:22 slef (ok, but it feels like we're into a grey area here) 19:22 wizzyrea (you'll note that they're not listed) 19:22 wizzyrea (failure to respond to that particular objection is why they're not listed already, fwiw) 19:21 slef it was part of my objection 19:21 slef read the last bullet on http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2011-July/035866.html 19:20 wizzyrea "distateful to me" isn't "illegal" 19:20 wizzyrea illegal 19:20 wizzyrea you have a keyword there 19:20 slef Certainly in the UK, webmasters have been punished for failing to remove links to illegal enterprises from websites they ran voluntarily in a timely fashion. 19:20 wizzyrea we either take that responsibility seriously and offer a certification (which would likely trim the list) or we list based on basic requirements 19:19 slef I don't believe that's accurate or ethical and I don't think it's legal in the UK. We have concepts like "attractive nuisance" and I'm surprised if the US doesn't, given how the US DHS seizes domains. 19:19 wizzyrea so in my mind 19:17 wizzyrea by disclaiming all of them -- you don't have to worry about that. 19:17 wizzyrea "you said this vendor was good" 19:17 wizzyrea not to mention the fact that by practicing selection, you then do bear some responsibility should a vendor not live up to the standards of their customers. 19:16 wizzyrea I can understand why this situation is upsetting for you, and I"m willing to hold off on listing until the requirements have been discussed. As it stands though, there aren't any real barriers to listing. 19:15 wizzyrea then blaming me is putting the blame in the wrong place. 19:15 slef they're the ones you were given, though 19:14 slef no, they're not 19:14 wizzyrea the ones stated on the web page 19:14 wizzyrea the requirements that I follow are the ones agreed upon by the community 19:13 slef wizzyrea: so would you list any old fraudsters on that site then? (Personally - and I don't know if I have access - I would not act.) 19:13 wizzyrea I'd take that up at the next meeting then. 19:13 slef wizzyrea: yeah rereading the IRC archives, it looks like gmcharlt dropped the word between everyone voting for his suggestion and him writing it on pastebin. 19:12 wizzyrea Legitimate has never been on that page. 19:12 wizzyrea that happened.... 5 may 2010 19:12 jcamins Ooooooooh. A Grolier binding. :D :D :D 19:12 wizzyrea slef: that's the wording that has been there since the last discussion on vendor listing took place 19:09 slef wizzyrea: mainly, where has "legitimate" gone from http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/how-to-get-listed/ ? 19:08 * cait hums along 19:08 * druthb gets out a scrub brush. 19:08 cait they are playing a song in the radio rangi showed me months ago 19:08 cait oh cool 19:07 * wizzyrea gets on her poo resistant outfit 19:07 * slef fires up the poo cannon 18:58 cait I don't think money was my reason to be excited about it :) 18:57 cait hm 18:56 wizzyrea (and I'm sure someone will call me out for saying it's tangential, because in capitalism the relationship to money is direct!) 18:56 wizzyrea (it has a tangential relationship to "money," thus people get really excited about it) 18:55 wizzyrea there are just a lot of politics surrounding the vendor list. 18:55 cait wizzyrea: looks good for me too 18:31 * jcamins doesn't see what the problem with that message is. 18:27 jcamins This is a really weird book. Leaves C1 and C6 were both bound in backwards. 18:26 * jcamins eagerly awaits the message. 18:26 * wizzyrea prepares for the poostorm that message will kick off. 18:25 wizzyrea my sig pissed it off. 18:25 wizzyrea never mind I just re-sent it 18:24 jcamins hdl just left. 18:23 wizzyrea can someone release that poor message I just sent to the koha list please and thanks? 18:22 * wizzyrea mutters 18:18 cait hm 18:18 jcamins Does anyone know of any IRC channels where people who collate old books hang out? 17:54 cait edit in print... in that sequence 17:54 cait might be good for checklists or other things you might want to print and edit 17:54 cait cool :) 17:54 thd I just added odt. 17:53 thd All uploads are stored in the images directory as far as I can tell. 17:53 cait I wonder if we should add odt 17:53 thd The directory in which they are stored is images. 17:52 thd Yes graphics file types are certainly in the base list. 17:52 cait ah ok 17:52 thd I do not know what the base list of already allowed file types is. 17:52 cait I think graphics? 17:52 cait what are the others? 17:51 thd We now have pdf, csv, and mrc as additional file types. 17:51 thd I just added mrc. 17:49 cait not sure what Brooke wanted to upload 17:48 cait yes, perhaps something like .mrc or something missing 17:48 thd The list is probably not long enough. 17:48 thd cait++ 17:47 thd gmcharlt had upgraded the wiki software but some extensions needed upgrading in consequence. 17:47 cait perhaps have a list of allowed file types somewhere? 17:47 cait thd++ 17:47 thd There had definitely been a problem with the category assignments which I have mostly fixed. 17:46 thd Brooke mentioned that there had been a problem. 17:46 cait I think it was Brooke who had problems - I never tried it really 17:46 wizzyrea but you're not able to? 17:45 wizzyrea sure 17:45 thd wizzyrea: Only specific file types are allowed as a sensible security measure. 17:45 thd wizzyrea, yes when I looked last week I could find no configuration obstacle to uploading common file types. 17:44 wizzyrea I thought that was fixed 17:44 thd Has anyone had difficulty uploading files to the wiki? 17:39 wizzyrea could be 17:39 cait perhaps something on server side? 17:39 wizzyrea ah sok. I've filed a ticket and the smarties will look into it. ;) 17:38 cait ouch :( 17:38 wizzyrea ya 17:38 cait your production system? 17:38 wizzyrea or at least, it only kicked in at a much higher level of borrows/user 17:38 cait :( 17:38 wizzyrea well soemthing has changed, because the same thing didn't happen in 3.2 17:33 wizzyrea hmm 17:33 wizzyrea to load the checkout screen 17:33 wizzyrea 41 checkouts, no relatives, just took 40 seconds 17:32 wizzyrea heh... 17:31 wizzyrea could be the relatives thing... sec 17:31 wizzyrea hmm tablesort for circ is off 17:30 cait perhaps the relatives thing? 17:30 cait but it was there before, the sorter thing, you can turn it off now 17:29 cait I think it's new 17:29 wizzyrea as of 3.4? 17:29 wizzyrea and it's new? 17:29 wizzyrea ? 17:29 wizzyrea is that a syspref 17:29 jcamins wizzyrea: did you turn on the sorter things? 17:28 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Howard Beach, Queens, New York is 33.7�C (1:28 PM EDT on July 12, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM EDT this evening... 17:28 jcamins @wunder 11375 17:28 wizzyrea Did something change on the circ screen that would make it take a lot longer on patrons with lots of checkouts? 17:28 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 26.4�C (7:25 PM CEST on July 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006.7 hPa (Steady). 17:28 cait @wunder Konstanz 17:22 jcamins In particular, it doesn't match things with multiple subdivisions. 17:22 cait have to run and buy food :) 17:21 jcamins hdl: the matching algorithm is very inaccurate. 17:21 cait it's not generally broken i would say 17:21 cait it works for us - but we don#t use the linking scripts 17:21 hdl I thought that dom indexing was the heaven for marc21. 17:20 hdl for you ? 17:20 jcamins hdl: no, of course not. 17:20 cait hehe 17:20 hdl link_authorities.... doesnot work ? 17:20 jcamins cait: we agreed it would be a good idea. 17:20 cait and jcamins - didn't we agree that we need to improve the tools managing th elinks instead of killing the authids? ;) 17:20 jcamins But there isn't. 17:20 jcamins If there were a script to repair the damage after the fact, that would be one thing. 17:20 hdl But this is a UNIMARC and endless discussion. 17:19 jcamins You have to either create all your authority records in advance, or you have to allow the system to create them automatically for you. 17:19 cait that's what I keep saying, but he doesn't listen to me :P 17:19 hdl mmmm only with ids can the relation be accurate imho. 17:18 jcamins Right. 17:18 hdl because of linking required ? 17:18 jcamins Ah. 17:18 hdl jcamins had never forgotten why he hates embedding authids in bib records. 17:18 jcamins hdl: elaborate on what? 17:17 hdl jcamins: can you elaborate ? 16:00 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6577] Columns misaligned on serials search results <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6577> 15:46 * wizzyrea questions that claim 15:46 library_systems_guy although not surprising really...i guess if they were related Koha would probably be based on that framework 15:45 library_systems_guy aww...thats disappointing 15:44 wizzyrea not related, afaik 15:41 * jcamins had never forgotten why he hates embedding authids in bib records. 15:40 library_systems_guy so i was just looking at rangi's place that he works...any correlation to http://www.catalystframework.org 15:37 * jcamins remembers all over again why he hates the Koha cataloging interface. 15:37 kf ouch 15:37 jcamins Argh! I just spent 45 minutes on a complicated item, only to have the computer crash when I tried to save the record. 15:37 kf ok, and now I stop confusing people and go book my hotel for the presentation next week 15:33 kf but export works only with one format 15:33 kf it would help importing them via z39.50 - but no complete translation for all fields probably 15:33 kf hm, export 15:33 kf but if you want to import data too... 15:33 kf there is a pending patch from marcelr 15:32 slef kf: until we figure out translating between them, at least. 15:32 kf both are bibliographic data formats 15:32 kf slef: good answer :) 15:31 slef SirDekar: look at what the libraries you want to share with use. 15:30 kf hm 15:29 SirDekar Panama, Center of America 15:29 kf yes :) 15:29 SirDekar me? 15:29 kf where are you located? 15:29 reiveune bye 15:29 SirDekar hi people, I've got a question. UNIMARC or MARC21 which is better or what's the difference? 15:25 miguel thanks, I think we scheduled a meeting for today, but ... 15:23 rhcl Miguel: I don't think there is an English language meeting scheduled, I don't know if there is something scheduled on the Spanish language side or not. 15:22 druthb lol 15:22 rhcl wizzy is dizzy 15:11 miguel Hola, hay alguién para la reunión en el IRC de es-koha-community ? 15:02 druthb :P 15:01 * Agent_Dani fences photos of druthb blushing. *whistles innocently* 14:55 * kf whispers to talljoy: can you poke her from me? 14:53 talljoy hello! 14:52 jcamins Hi, talljoy! 14:48 druthb no fair, with talljoy sitting next to me. 14:48 * talljoy ducks 14:48 talljoy I don't see any blushing. 14:48 * druthb blushes 14:46 kf :) 14:45 jcamins druthb++ # because it's after breakfast, and she does something amazing before breakfast every day :) 14:45 jcamins Hi, druthb! 14:44 druthb hi, jcamins. :) 14:42 kf hi jcamins :) 14:41 jcamins_away Hello, wizzyrea, kf, and Agent_Dani. 14:41 Agent_Dani Hi wizzyrea 14:38 kf good morning liz 14:38 wizzyrea good morning 14:01 library_systems_guy i felt that if i was going to make the list it might as well be for something cool 14:01 kf :) 14:01 library_systems_guy i think im already in there :D 14:01 kf oh 14:01 library_systems_guy third actually...but the first two were like id patches lol 14:01 kf meaning - we can add another name to the list of that gets through 14:00 kf history is waiting :) 14:00 kf it's your first patch, right? :) 14:00 library_systems_guy right right...so my patch that messes with xslt should tale some time 13:59 sekjal anything mucking around in C4/Circulation, Reserves or Search... much more in depth 13:59 slef looks like a couple of days 13:59 sekjal small patches, things that touch the templates only, tend to be quicker to push through QA because they're easier to test; you either see it works or it doesn't 13:59 slef http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/progress.pl might give some idea of trends 13:59 library_systems_guy i was just curious 13:59 library_systems_guy gotcha 13:58 kf then rangi pushes them very quick 13:58 slef library_systems_guy: I'm not sure it's an easy thing to average :-/ 13:58 library_systems_guy ahh 13:58 kf until qa manager signs off 13:54 library_systems_guy once a patch has been signed off on how long does it usually take to get pushed to maser? 13:01 magnuse guten tag kf 13:01 kf hi magnuse :) 12:48 magnuse ouch 12:48 oleonard Must bug the person at this library who blocked IRC 12:32 magnuse hiya druthb 12:31 druthb kia ora, magnuse. :) 12:29 magnuse kia ora #koha 12:17 talljoy good morning 12:17 kf hi talljoy 12:16 JesseM Hi kf 12:15 kf morning JesseM 11:35 JesseM Good Morning 10:46 druthb hi, rangi! :) 10:46 rangi hi druthb 10:45 druthb o/ 10:33 kf that's good :) 10:33 kf so he is not dead, only sleeping 10:33 rangi well i could, but id rather just wait for eythian he was working on some plugins 10:33 slef gone for good or just waiting on eythian? 10:32 kf oh :( 10:32 rangi nope 10:32 kf can you bring wahanui back? 10:32 slef hi rangi 10:32 kf hi rangi :) 10:28 rangi hi slef and kf 10:26 kf sorry, no 10:26 slef anyone any idea about kohacon11 meeting? 10:25 kf hi slef 10:24 slef hi all 08:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6573 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Library name entry field enforces unnecessary maxlength 08:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6133 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Authorised values administration, warn for modifs 08:46 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6573 - Library name entry field enforces unnecessary maxlength 08:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5197 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , today's date on notices 08:46 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Revised fix for Bug 6133 - Authorised values administration, warn for modifs 08:46 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 5197: add <<today>> token to notices 08:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #320: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/320/ 08:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6573 - Library name entry field enforces unnecessary maxlength <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b1ca473cc0307dfde997051e04fad664ba0503f> / Revised fix for Bug 6133 - Authorised values administration, warn for modifs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f095be74ab2169eb4401bfc4f51abec08cc5a9f> / Bug 5197: add < > token to notices <http://git.koha-commu 08:03 jenkins_koha Starting build 320 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 06:50 julian hello #koha 06:43 reiveune hello 06:19 cait hi #koha 05:04 francharb hello all 04:15 druthb Interesting lil dubstep... 04:14 rangi http://www.eclecticmethod.net/2011/07/07/the-dark-side/ 04:14 druthb hi again, Oak. :) 04:13 Oak druthb :) 04:13 druthb o/ 02:53 mtj mtj <- mason :) 02:53 mtj heya ronald 02:53 mtj w00t 02:53 mtj http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/koha.upgrade;h=0449c10494ba25cd7f5aad15220f890f16a0a86e;hb=675f9d5b0152922364c1963438b2aad977a17cf2 02:49 rangi ./koha.upgrade 02:49 rangi ahh thats easy 02:49 mtj http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=misc/release+notes;h=85bfb75ff1a82466be137de366395e2726543983;hb=675f9d5b0152922364c1963438b2aad977a17cf2 02:48 mtj ahh, here they are :) 02:47 rangi yeah i cant remember 02:45 mtj all good - i can wing it, if i cant find any info 02:45 mtj yeah :) 02:45 mtj ive been looking at a 2.2.9 repo, but cant find any 2.0->2.2 doco in it 02:44 rangi been a long time 02:44 rangi i forget how i did that 02:44 mtj rangi: yeah, the 2.0 to 2.2 bit... and quick ideas there? 02:43 Oak heya druthb :) 02:43 * Oak waves 02:43 druthb Hi, Oak. :) 02:43 rangi cool 02:43 mtj so far, so good 02:43 rangi ahh ull need to go to 2.2.x first then 3.0.0 then 3.2 then 3.4 etc 02:43 mtj yeah :) 02:43 mtj which is a 1st for me :) , its a 2.0.x (i think) 02:43 rangi theosophical society? 02:42 rangi thats pretty old 02:42 mtj im upgrading a koha thats so old.. it doesnt have a 'version' syspref value :p 02:41 mtj oooh, thanks! 02:40 rangi thats a patch that fixes/enhances the 2.2 to 3.0 scripts 02:39 huginn 04Bug 4518: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED , Enhance 2.2 to 3.0 scripts 02:39 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4518 02:39 mtj ;p 02:39 mtj facepalm, its the 1st results using 'upgrading' :/ 02:39 rangi mtj: what you should do 02:38 mtj thanks chris :) 02:38 mtj bah , was searching on '22_to_30' 02:37 druthb rangi++ 02:37 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Upgrading_2.2 02:37 mtj im looking for this page -> http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=22_to_30 02:37 rangi im pretty sure i shifted that already 02:37 druthb nopers. 02:36 mtj got a copy of the wiki.koha.org db somewhere ;) 02:36 mtj heya druthb 02:36 druthb o/ 02:36 mtj hmm, perhaps i could send that request to the Koha general mailing-list 02:35 mtj ... i could find that lost important information, and paste it into the new kc.org wiki 02:34 mtj i wonder if any ptfs/liblime folk might be able to find an old backup of the wiki.koha.org database... 02:33 mtj . 02:33 mtj ... and it no longer exists :/ 02:32 mtj i need to do a koha2 -> koha3 upgrade, and that link is the only doco i can find 02:32 mtj does anyone know where the equiv. of http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=22_to_30 is? 02:31 mtj heres a random Q....