Time Nick Message 22:56 wahanui somebody said time was a scary thing 22:56 rhcl wahanui: time? 22:02 rhcl np 22:02 library_systems_guy thanks rhcl 22:01 rhcl gl 22:01 library_systems_guy wizzyrea++ rhcl++ 22:01 wizzyrea sure 22:01 library_systems_guy thanks wizzyrea 22:01 library_systems_guy aww ok 22:00 wizzyrea byee 22:00 library_systems_guy sure, I'd really appreciate it 22:00 wizzyrea kiddo is expecting me :( 22:00 wizzyrea gah, I can poke at this more tomorrow if you like 22:00 library_systems_guy Ex: Copies available for loan: Robert R. Muntz Library Stacks 3rd Floor [HX15 .S67 ser. B, no. 55] (1). 21:59 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot branch 21:59 wizzyrea forget the branch 21:59 wahanui the branch is gone 21:59 library_systems_guy and the branch 21:59 library_systems_guy correct, so I'd like to show the shelving location 21:59 wizzyrea so you have a location and a branch you want to show 21:59 library_systems_guy oh no :'( 21:59 wizzyrea I have to go in like 2 minutes :( 21:59 library_systems_guy multibranch 21:59 wizzyrea oh bother 21:58 wizzyrea single or multi branch 21:57 library_systems_guy yeah thats it 21:57 wizzyrea something like [% available_items_loo.location %] 21:57 library_systems_guy but it looks like it is in a nested separate loop 21:56 library_systems_guy location 21:56 wizzyrea what's the tag for it in normal 21:55 library_systems_guy using tt 21:55 library_systems_guy im not really sure, like i said im new...I know it exists because I can print it in normal mode for opac 21:55 wizzyrea what marc field is it that you're trying to show 21:54 rhcl logically I wouldn't think it would be a hash - surely it's just a variable 21:54 library_systems_guy hmm thats not a bad idea 21:54 rhcl there ought to be a database tool analogous to wireshark, where you can live tap into the database queries and see them. 21:53 library_systems_guy i guess it just gets shoved in a hash 21:53 library_systems_guy but the way the variable gets passed eludes me :-/ 21:52 library_systems_guy right, i see the homebranch gets printed 21:52 rhcl hummm, not sure I can help much with that one, but there are three "locations", branch, current and shelving 21:50 library_systems_guy opac-search 21:49 rhcl item search? 21:49 rhcl results page? 21:49 library_systems_guy do you have any experience with it? 21:49 library_systems_guy not to be a bother rhcl but I'm working on adding the item location to the results page and I can't seem to get the variable name correct in the sxlt stylesheet 21:46 library_systems_guy im still new 21:46 library_systems_guy lol well maybe they have a plan to go at it 21:46 rhcl yea, but I don't think anybody is actually coding it yet. 21:46 library_systems_guy ok ill look at the wiki 21:45 library_systems_guy oh really 21:45 rhcl Make sure somebody isn't already working on it, however. I know it's been talked about. 21:45 library_systems_guy it looks like a lot of work 21:45 library_systems_guy lol yeah thats what I'm thinking 21:45 rhcl well, that should be worth two credits! 21:44 library_systems_guy hmm well I have a credit I need to earn for class so maybe I can call that my class project and just write it in 21:44 rhcl We also need a bill notice, which gives a total price for books. Currently the 3rd overdue we use lists the price for books, but not a total. 21:43 rhcl Yes, personally I can see merit in having a variable number of notices. I also think it should be possible to select both email and paper notices for those overdue patrons w/ email. 21:42 rhcl ic. Well, like I said, afaik you can only send three; you can set the timing on those. You might consider some staggered spacing, like 2 days, then 4 days, then 7 days. Something like a Fibonacci series. 21:40 library_systems_guy do you you think sending out notices based on types is something other libraries would be interested in? 21:39 library_systems_guy but only sending out 3 notices is going to make the ILL librarian freak 21:39 library_systems_guy yes we only send out email notices (since we only deal with students we have that luxury) 21:36 rhcl We have email notices turned off, but if you turn that on the people with email addresses on file would get email notices, and those w/o email addresses would get paper notices. 21:34 rhcl Presumably you want to send email notices? Not paper? 21:32 rhcl No, I think you can only send out 3 overdue notices. I don't know if this is customizable, but our 3rd overdue notice is considered a bill, which lists prices for the books unlike the 1st and 2nd overdue notices. 21:30 library_systems_guy for our ILL's we'd like to send them out everyday since they cost so much in fines 21:29 library_systems_guy rhcl is it possible to send out more than 3 notices? 21:16 rhcl The notices hit triggers, 1st, 2nd, which are set by the number of days. 21:16 rhcl lsg: I believe so, yes. You are generating notices I assume? 21:08 library_systems_guy I can run the overdues script as often as I want in the cron correct? 19:32 wahanui OK, Brooke. 19:32 Brooke wahanui: Indian visa is multi entry Tourist Visa *wink wink* *nudge nudge* 19:31 wahanui brooke: i don't know 19:31 Brooke wahanui: Indian visa? 19:27 Brooke alt tab! 19:27 wizzyrea ? 19:27 Brooke thisblows 18:59 clrh bye 18:38 cait hi hdl 18:34 hdl hi all 18:34 hdl hi miguel 18:09 * tcohen is friendly jealous of rangi right now 18:03 rhcl I live by the Missouri River, which is flooding and breaking through levee's everywhere, so I have a heck of a beach right now. 17:38 Agent_Dani But, a couple hundred miles either way and I can have beach or mountains. :D Looking forward to the latter next week. 17:38 cait but lot's of nice lawns at the lake 17:38 cait no real beaches with sand here 17:37 Agent_Dani No beach near me, unless you count the man-made ones on Jordan and Falls Lakes (I don't.) No swamps, either, at least. 17:29 * talljoy wishes there was a beach in N.O. instead of swamps. 17:23 Agent_Dani rangi: Sweet! I'm missing the beach right now. 17:18 cait :) 17:10 druthb :) 17:08 rangi back from a nice walk on the beach 15:57 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hourly_Loans_RFC 15:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans 15:57 cait bug 5549 15:57 cait perhaps you want to compare 15:57 cait the spec was very detailed 15:56 cait ah 15:51 briceSanc now 15:51 briceSanc cait, the last year, i develop this functionnality for Koha 3.2 but the customers didn't want to release it. I didn't know that bywaters working on that 15:48 cait briceSanc: there is a spec on the wiki, have you seen that? 15:47 druthb that is correct. 15:47 cait not sure though 15:47 cait briceSanc: I thought bywater was working on hourly loans 15:46 wizzyrea hum 15:45 wizzyrea something catalogers probably like 15:45 oleonard wizzyrea: I think that's true, and less forgiving 15:44 wizzyrea one of my coworkers claims it's a "more exact search" 15:44 briceSanc i hope nobody work on that functionnality =D 15:44 briceSanc We are currently working on the checkout by hour for Koha 3.4 and the customer want to release it for the community after the end of development 15:44 oleonard wizzyrea I could be wrong but I think it's just a matter of no one having touched it since we switched to using Zebra 15:43 wizzyrea inform me 15:43 wizzyrea so my question is - what's the benefit? Am I being dense? 15:43 wizzyrea with an extra colon, of course 15:42 wizzyrea that seems likely, as additems.pl uses C4::Search and Search.pl uses C4::Search:PazPar2 15:41 oleonard wizzyrea: I thought the cataloging search didn't use Zebra 15:41 wizzyrea ooo, I like good news 15:41 briceSanc Hello all, I've a great news for this community 15:41 wizzyrea does anybody know what the actual difference is between the cataloging search and the regular search in the staff client (besides the reservoir thing) 15:41 oleonard :P 15:40 rangi peace out (im adapting to the environment) 15:40 rangi bbl 15:40 rangi ok time to be social 15:37 rangi hope so :) 15:37 wizzyrea maybe it'll be better by then 15:37 rangi 29th 15:36 wizzyrea got a good stretch before you have to leave though right? 15:36 wizzyrea :( 15:35 rangi ash is getting worse apparently, so might be fun going back 15:35 wizzyrea ugh 15:35 rangi the rest was waiting 15:35 rangi only flying for 18 of those hours too 15:34 cait I think 36 hours is even longer than it took me to nz - without the stay in london 15:34 cait happy you arrived savely 15:33 rangi yeah that wasnt much fun 15:33 oleonard cool, glad you have a break after that nightmare series of flights 15:33 alex_a bye 15:32 rangi oleonard: hanging with brendan today, we fly out this afternoon 15:32 cait but I would be a little surprised, they have stacks where people order things 15:32 cait - or they didn#t realize yet it doesn't 15:31 cait miguel: I am quite sure I tested it in 3.1.61 because that was our first production system and the library is now on 3.2.2 - so it should work 15:31 miguel cait: the lines code is the same in a 3.2 official, but I will not be upset if you say it works ... 15:31 oleonard rangi: Are you still airport-hopping or do you have a break in Cali? 15:29 wizzyrea and a blaspheme to boot :P 15:28 wizzyrea but you're probably right on that point 15:28 wizzyrea well it's got a greater number of implied swear words :) 15:28 oleonard wizzyrea: I think "gfdi" is less sweary than the "f<bleep>k" we hear on TV 15:28 cait ok, how is california? :) 15:27 cait oh 15:27 rangi im in california still so dont know :) 15:27 cait how is New orleans? 15:27 * wizzyrea is sorry to be sweary 15:27 cait hi rangi 15:26 wizzyrea phew, thx 15:26 rangi thats all you need 15:26 rangi -N 15:26 wizzyrea it didn't used to put that on 15:26 oleonard ? 15:26 wizzyrea gfdi I hate this new version of git it makes me irritated 15:25 cait :) 15:25 cait patch 21/21? 15:25 wizzyrea (they can drown together, that is) 15:25 wizzyrea tom hanks too 15:25 cait I forgot to go shopping yesterday and today is holiday 15:25 oleonard wizzyrea: Just room enough for me though, Leonardo DiCaprio is on his own. 15:25 * cait shares a package of cookies with #koha 15:24 * wizzyrea too 15:24 * cait hopes oleonard will not sink 15:24 wizzyrea at least you'll have something to sit on :P 15:24 cait :) 15:24 * oleonard will cling to the raft of bugs when his boat sinks 15:24 cait filing bugs is the first step 15:24 cait wizzyrea++ 15:24 cait wizzyrea+ 15:23 * wizzyrea sighs 15:23 * wizzyrea will file a raft of bugs on it. 15:23 wizzyrea things not showing up like they should, data that looks like it ought to be displayed but isn't 15:23 wizzyrea there is actually quite a lot wrong with the cataloging search 15:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6527] Table striping not working on cataloguing search <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6527> 15:15 cait ah,my scrolling is broken again :( 15:15 cait ok 15:14 miguel i test 3.2 official now 15:14 Oak :) peace be upon you too druthb 15:14 cait I have not testd this development yet 15:14 miguel in the 3.4 official it is not correct 15:14 druthb Salaam, Oak. :) 15:14 cait if the circulation rules are in place they perhaps are supposed to replace the sys pref 15:14 cait miguel: so perhaps it's a bug then 15:13 Oak perfect! 15:13 Oak ah :) danke cait 15:13 miguel yes, cait 15:13 cait (was this right?) 15:13 cait salaam Oak :) 15:13 cait I think this biblibre development is not in an official version yet 15:12 cait are you on a branch? 15:12 cait miguel: circulation rules? 15:08 Oak :) 15:08 rhcl hi oak 15:08 Oak hello #koha 15:08 Oak guten tag cait :) 15:07 Oak heya druthb :) 15:07 miguel and allowonshelfholds circulation rules works fine but not the system pref 15:07 cait miguel: not sure then 15:06 miguel and the code is the same 15:05 miguel i have 3.2 15:01 reiveune bye 14:56 cait all I can say is that I see it working in 3.2.2 14:56 cait not sure, there might be a tt issue 14:56 cait I have not tested it for a longer time 14:50 miguel maybe I'm wrong shy 14:46 miguel and not checking the status of items 14:46 miguel I know what I should do the preference but I tested this code 14:44 miguel cait: i was eating 14:25 cait t 14:25 * cait waves 14:20 Agent_Dani Ought to be decent weather for me to walk to campus and pick up my Roku. 14:20 wizzyrea yesterday was the most perfect day you can get in kansas 14:20 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 22.4�C (9:20 AM CDT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady). 14:20 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks 14:20 huginn talljoy: The current temperature in Mid City Station, New Orleans, Louisiana is 27.2�C (9:20 AM CDT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). 14:20 talljoy @wunder 70112 14:20 talljoy how about where we are going.... 14:20 rangi 14 is perfect 14:19 huginn Agent_Dani: The current temperature in Huckleberry Heights, Durham, North Carolina is 27.1�C (10:19 AM EDT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). 14:19 Agent_Dani @wunder 27705 14:19 rangi thank you 14:19 oleonard Welcome to our shores rangi 14:19 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 26.4�C (10:19 AM EDT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady). 14:19 druthb @wunder 20852 14:19 huginn talljoy: The current temperature in Team Ranch, Benbrook, Texas is 25.5�C (9:19 AM CDT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for today... 14:19 talljoy @wunder 76109 14:19 talljoy that sounds a bit chilly this morning. 14:18 druthb good morning, rangi! 14:17 huginn rangi: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 13.9�C (7:17 AM PDT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Rising). 14:17 rangi @wunder santa barbara, ca 12:51 druthb :) hi cait 12:51 tcohen hi oleonard 12:51 cait hi druthb :) 12:51 druthb hi, oleonard! :) 12:50 oleonard Hi tcohen and druthb 12:18 cait allowonshelfholds is about allowing holds on items not checked out. when off a hold should only be allowed if all items of a record are checked out 12:17 oleonard Hi #koha 12:17 cait hi oleonard 12:17 cait similar named 12:17 cait if you want to hide the button always and forever I think this is opacreserves or something 12:17 cait what do you intend to do? 12:16 cait it's been al ong time since I tested that for our libraries 12:16 cait and sometimes it might not hide it but still refuse you to place a hold with a message 12:16 cait not always 12:16 cait only in some cases it should hide it 12:13 miguel Am I right? 12:13 miguel preference hides the Place Hold button 12:12 miguel both the 3.2 and in the 3.4, the preference is passed to the template of pl without checking the status of items 11:47 cait it should only hide it if there are still available items 11:47 cait or at least the libraries have not told me about any problems 11:47 miguel so I can see, hide the Place Hold button in opac 11:47 cait there it works 11:47 cait we use both settings, but in 3.2.2 11:46 cait hm 11:46 miguel the preference "AllowOnShelfHolds", i think that it don't funtion that explains 11:41 miguel hello koha 10:46 Brooke hooray Travisa was just yelled at over Passport Processing. 10:45 mibSHY thanks druthb. 10:29 Brooke kia ora 10:01 * druthb heads out for some breakfast. 10:00 druthb all the opac templates live in subdirectories of koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl. 10:00 mibSHY ok. 09:58 druthb mibshy, getting familiar with what's where in the Koha files is Job 1. Without that, you're without a compass, and can hose things up pretty dramatically pretty fast. 09:57 druthb (unless someone's gone n monkeyed with that.) 09:57 druthb Normally = template; XSLT= XSL 09:57 mibSHY druthb: for editing template which file I have to edit. I am not much familiar with koha files 09:55 eythian "set normally" doesn't say what it is though 09:55 druthb Then the template controls the display, and tweaking opac-results.tt should let you get what you want. 09:54 mibSHY XSLTResultsDisplay is set as normally 09:53 * eythian goes home. It's well past time for being at work still. 09:53 eythian mibSHY: have you turned on XSLT for search results? 09:53 druthb That should be a relatively simple modification of the template. Not sure why Books is showing up multiple times, tho. 09:52 mibSHY Also the book type is coming more than once - Books Books Books. how can I customize th eformat of this list? 09:51 mibSHY I dont want to display ISBN, item type and the title 'Description:' before the publisher in the search list. 09:51 Judit what do you want to have instead? 09:50 mibSHY Barr, Jill and Dowding, Lesley Description: London : xiv, 253 p. ISBN: 141292068X Books Books Books 09:50 mibSHY 1. Leadership in Healthcare 09:50 mibSHY When I am searching for some books the list comes like as below. 09:49 Judit druthb is not alone :) 09:49 * druthb is not sure she understands the question? 09:48 mibSHY Shall I customize the search list format of books in staff client? 09:48 mibSHY i have a doubt. 09:47 mibSHY :) 09:46 druthb hi, mibshy. no need to yell. 09:45 mibSHY HI KOHA# 09:25 druthb Hi, Amit. :) 09:25 Amit_Gupta heay druthb 09:24 druthb o/ 09:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6526] Hold requests require cardnumbers to be set <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6526> 09:21 Amit_Gupta how can we generate single patron card in koha not using batch 09:18 Amit_Gupta heya all 09:18 Amit_Gupta heya ll 08:21 eythian so they don't have library cards or anything like that. 08:20 eythian it's for an organisation, not a public library or anything 08:20 eythian cait: yeah 08:13 cait so they search only by name? 08:13 cait hm 08:13 cait hm you scan the cardnumber there but it should translate into a borrowernumber? 08:13 eythian quite. Especially as one of our clients doesn't have card numbers for most of its borrowers. 08:11 cait eythian: ouch 08:03 eythian not, say, borrowernumber. 08:03 eythian it uses card number to identify the user that is placing the reserve. 08:03 eythian cait: in the code that handles placing reserves 08:03 cait eythian: where did you find it? 07:52 eythian public service announcment: cardnumber is _never_ a good way of uniquely tracking users on internal forms. 07:48 * eythian goes back to fixing a bug that's causing him headaches. 07:48 syed ok 07:48 eythian the web installer is installed by default 07:48 eythian then you haven't done it correctly. If you're working on a remote machine, then it'll be the IP address of that machine rather than localhost. 07:48 syed i have no idea how to install web installer 07:47 syed but no web installer 07:47 syed yes i have done apache config correctly 07:47 eythian if it's not, then you haven't done that correctly 07:46 eythian but if you've done the apache configuration correctly, it'll be on localhost:8080 07:46 eythian The instructions are a bit too implicit about that, annoyingly 07:46 eythian get into the web installer and set it up. 07:44 syed so what u sugg. me... for the next step 07:44 eythian there's no point 07:44 eythian stop trying to rebuild zebra until you get data in there 07:44 syed do u knew.. any command to rebuild_zebra? 07:43 alex_a hello cait 07:43 syed http://localhost:8080/ : no page found 07:42 eythian read the instructions. But it's probably something like going to localhost:8080 in firefox 07:42 * cait takes a cookie 07:42 cait lol 07:42 Oak cookies for all then 07:42 syed eythian: i'm new on ubuntu... 07:41 Oak yay 07:41 Oak guten morgen cait :) 07:41 cait today cait is going to stay - german holiday :) 07:41 cait morning Oak 07:41 syed how to configure web installer on ubuntu... 07:41 Oak heya cait :) 07:41 eythian well then you'll have no tables set up, so rebuild_zebra has nothing to work with 07:41 cait hi #koha 07:40 syed eythian: No, i have'nt yet 07:36 eythian you haven't gone to the web installer to set up your koha 07:35 syed DBD::mysql::st fetchrow failed: fetch() without execute() at C4/Context.pm line 853. DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'kohadb.zebraqueue' doesn't exist at misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 264. 07:35 syed what u sugg.? 07:34 syed i think.. table structure missing 07:34 syed DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'kohadb.marc_subfield_structure' doesn't exist at C4/Context.pm line 852. 07:34 syed yes password also set... it's run now... but now got this error 07:33 syed DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'kohadb.marc_subfield_structure' doesn't exist at C4/Context.pm line 852. 07:25 Oak syed, and a <pass> is also set... 07:18 bellows anybody can help me in creating barcode labels ? 07:16 bellows hi 07:16 syed <config> <db_scheme>mysql</db_scheme> <database>koha</database> <hostname>localhost</hostname> <port>3306</port> <user>kohaadmin</user> 07:16 Oak at the end of the file is the detail for DB 07:15 Oak Ubuntu 07:15 syed yes i also have in same folder 07:15 Oak i am on Slackware not Ubintu 07:15 Oak i have it in /etc/koha/ 07:13 syed ? 07:13 syed or from where i can change my koha-conf.xml 07:13 syed is there any config until that i should run again ... 07:12 Oak you username/password for the Koha DB must match with what you put in koha-conf.xml 07:12 syed any sugg. plz 07:12 syed Error.... DBI connect('dbname=koha;host=localhost;port=3306','kohaadmin',...) failed: Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at C4/Context.pm line 692 Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at C4/Context.pm line 692. 07:12 Oak and what happened ? :) 07:11 syed hi all... i had run.. sudo -u koha misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a 07:02 sophie_m hello #koha 07:02 glernil good day! 07:01 francharb hello all 06:40 paul_p hi alex_a & all 06:39 alex_a bonjour paul_p 06:33 reiveune hello 06:33 alex_a not light for me 06:32 alex_a Light rain :-/ 06:32 huginn alex_a: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 20.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 06:32 alex_a @wunder Marseille 06:32 eythian It's raining here, and I'm supposed to be biking home. I might take the bus instead. 06:32 Oak :) 06:32 alex_a héhé 06:32 Oak and trees 06:32 Oak and dark clouds 06:32 Oak yup 06:31 alex_a truly ? 06:31 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 35.0�C (11:00 AM PKT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.41 in 996 hPa. 06:31 Oak @wunder islamabad 06:31 Oak ooh i love rain 06:31 alex_a despite the rain at Marseille ... 06:30 Oak cool :) 06:30 alex_a Oak: good :) 06:29 Oak good alex_a . how are you? 06:29 alex_a Oak: how are you ? 06:27 Oak bonjour alex_a :) 06:24 alex_a bonjour #koha :) 06:03 syed Thanks eythian 06:03 syed ok, let me re-evaluate my installation again 06:02 eythian I think all the instructions are in the INSTALL.ubuntu file. 06:01 syed eythian: i have opened .... syed@syed-pc:~$ sudo gedit /home/syed/Desktop/Koha/release/etc/koha-conf.xml 05:58 eythian that's the key bit 05:58 eythian > Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) 05:58 eythian you've either set your database up wrong, or you've set your koha-conf.xml up wrong. One of them has the wrong password or permissions not right. 05:57 syed line 692. 05:56 syed eythian:syed@syed-pc:~/Desktop/Koha/release$ sudo -u koha misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a DBI connect('dbname=koha;host=localhost;port=3306','kohaadmin',...) failed: Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at C4/Context.pm line 692 Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at C4/Context.pm 05:53 Oak cait++ 05:53 eythian now do that command 05:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6247 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, Acq: oder from existing record broken 05:52 wahanui next is bug 6247 - patch coming 05:52 syed what's next? 05:52 syed now I'm standing on.. syed@syed-pc:~/Desktop/Koha/release$ 05:52 eythian yes, that's because you're not in the correct directory 05:51 syed Koha/release/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/syed/Desktop/Koha/release/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. 05:51 syed Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /home/syed/Desktop/Koha/release/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/syed/Desktop/ 05:51 eythian first, do: cd /home/syed/Desktop/Koha/release 05:51 syed but i found error again 05:50 syed now i found my path... misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl ........... its.. syed@syed-pc:~$ sudo -u koha /home/syed/Desktop/Koha/release/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a 05:49 mtj eythian: no probs, i owe you one ;) 05:48 eythian mtj: awesome, thanks! 05:48 mtj eythian: 'OpacPublic' syspref, stops people viewing OPAC 05:48 eythian mtj: it's actually as both in the install doc. That should be fixed. But good point. 05:47 mtj misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra 05:47 mtj not 05:47 mtj misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl 05:44 Oak pwd = present working diretory 05:44 eythian if you type 'pwd' and press enter, what does it say? 05:44 eythian there is no sudo 05:44 eythian no 05:44 syed [sudo] password for syed: 05:41 eythian what is the output of running 'pwd' 05:41 eythian no 05:40 syed the output is.... sudo: misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra: command not found 05:38 eythian what does it output when you run that 05:38 eythian pwd has nothing to do with passwords 05:37 syed when i run this command... i found error... not asking my password 05:36 eythian syed: what does 'pwd' say? 05:35 syed eythian: yes i already checked my installation directory my path is correct... but still getting same error 05:32 Oak oh wait, i should be in the kitchen 05:32 Oak syed, what about what eythian said... did you checked 05:32 eythian <eythian> you need to be whereever you've installed koha 05:32 eythian <eythian> syed: you're probably in the wrong directory 05:32 syed sudo -u koha misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra -z -b -a ... got an error ... command not found ... plz guide 05:31 Oak brb in 15 05:26 eythian :� 05:25 Oak :p 05:25 Oak wise words mr. robin. wise words indeed. 05:24 eythian you need to be whereever you've installed koha 05:24 eythian syed: you're probably in the wrong directory 05:22 syed pianohacker: its on Ubuntu 10.4 .... Koha INSTALL.Ubuntu (Original author: Joshua Ferraro Modified for Ubuntu by: Chris Nighswonger (cnighswonger AT foundations DOT edu)) 05:21 eythian pianohacker: ta. I just put it to the client and I'm hoping we can do something like that, that way I can get time to do it properly and upstream it. 05:21 pianohacker syed: Is this on Debian, using the official packages? 05:21 syed yeah sure Oak 05:21 Oak your* 05:21 Oak get help about you problem, then we'll talk, okay 05:20 pianohacker eythian: the quick hacky way to do that would be to change authnotrequired from 1 to 0 in all of the opac scripts 05:20 Oak :) 05:20 syed nice 05:19 Oak islamabad 05:19 syed Oak: what abt u? 05:19 Oak cool 05:19 syed yes 05:19 syed sudo -u koha misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra -z -b -a ... got an error.. command not found 05:19 Oak where are you from syed ? Karachi? 05:18 Oak heya syed :) 05:18 syed hi, all 05:04 eythian anyone know if Koha has the ability to prevent people from viewing the OPAC without a password? 04:56 Space_Librarian if I can. 04:55 kmkale Space_Librarian: Thats too bad. Hope you will try to wriggle out of it and make it here 04:13 Space_Librarian kmkale: looks like I'll be doing LIANZA in Wellington instead. :( 04:13 Oak kmkale, may be :) 04:13 kmkale Oak: are you coming for Kohacon11? 04:12 kmkale Space_Librarian: tickets booked? 04:12 kmkale namaste Space_Librarian & Oak 04:09 Space_Librarian namaste kmkale 04:09 Oak Namaste kmkale :) 04:08 kmkale Namaste #koha 04:04 * Oak waves 03:51 eythian just missed... 03:51 eythian cool :) 03:50 library_guy im out for the night 03:50 library_guy good talking to you eythian 03:48 library_guy WOO I got an error 03:44 library_guy heh 03:44 eythian well, it started off as a small one I think. It's just had 11 more years of people hacking on it since then 03:43 library_guy and it turned into a giant project 03:43 library_guy rumor has it that the design team thought it would be a simple db project 03:42 eythian yeah 03:42 library_guy in New Zealand? 03:42 eythian for a library around here. 03:42 eythian it was started about 11 years ago 03:42 eythian heh 03:41 library_guy or did somebody just start writing it one day 03:41 library_guy do you know if Koha is based on anything? 03:40 eythian ah 03:40 library_guy but you're is at least mildly classy lol 03:39 library_guy more like this http://www.asciiartfarts.com/pokemon.html 03:39 eythian http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~manuel/obfuscate/pi.c <-- like this? 03:38 library_guy acsii pokemon *quivers* 03:38 library_guy that was frustrating 03:38 library_guy I kept running across ASCII art in the code 03:38 library_guy the last project I worked on was like that 03:37 eythian I've tried to refactor a few things, but you end up feeling like you're pulling an endless string. 03:37 eythian yeah, also parts of it have grown organically 03:37 eythian heh 03:37 library_guy i guess that is to be expected in a new project 03:36 library_guy thats how i feel about all 75K lines of this right now 03:35 eythian yeah, it's a huge ugly mess 03:35 library_guy I don't blame you after looking at this 03:35 library_guy hahahaha 03:35 eythian Even if I were, I'd deny it 03:34 library_guy eythian: are you familiar with Search.pm? 03:32 library_guy lol fair enough...just wanted to make sure that somebody didn't get clever and pipe it out for a dev install 03:32 eythian to STDERR, which appears in the errors log 03:31 library_guy to stderr's output in the log or the site in Koha? 03:31 library_guy lol 03:30 eythian could be. I always tend to print it out to STDERR in the perl code so that I know it's getting a value, and I haven't made a dumb mistake somewhere. 03:30 library_guy I may just not be referencing it correctly 03:29 library_guy the (location)? isn't showing up 03:29 eythian what's (not )?happening? 03:29 eythian haha 03:28 library_guy I would definitely take an error right about now just so I know what im doing wrong lol 03:27 library_guy fair enough...i just wasn't aware it existed :p 03:26 eythian it's not compulsory or anything, but generally a bit nicer. 03:26 eythian library_guy: jup 03:26 eythian anyone know where the 'contact notes' field for borrowers is supposed to show up? 03:26 library_guy so is using xslt recommended? 03:25 library_guy fair enough 03:24 eythian but I have access to change it 03:24 eythian library_guy: no, it's an infobot 03:24 wahanui okay, eythian. 03:24 eythian no wahanui, wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information 03:24 library_guy eythian: are you the one who wrote wahanui 03:24 eythian grr, I really need to fix that bug 03:24 wahanui somebody said i was a bot or a repository of important and useful and accurate information 03:24 eythian wahanui: wahanui 03:24 wahanui okay, eythian. 03:24 eythian wahanui is also a repository of important and useful and accurate information 03:24 wahanui i am a bot 03:24 eythian wahanui: wahanui 03:24 wahanui i am a bot 03:24 eythian wahanui: wahanui 03:24 wahanui i am probably a bot 03:24 eythian wahanui: wahanui 03:23 eythian wahanui is a repository of important and useful and accurate information 03:23 library_guy poor wahanui 03:23 eythian fixed 03:23 wahanui interesting is good 03:23 eythian wahanui: interesting 03:23 wahanui interesting is sometimes bad 03:23 eythian wahanui: interesting 03:22 wahanui okay, eythian. 03:22 eythian no wahanui, interesting is good|sometimes bad 03:22 eythian no wahanui, interesting =is= good|sometimes bad 03:22 wahanui eythian: interesting =is= good 03:22 eythian wahanui: literal interesting 03:22 library_guy lol 03:22 library_guy wahanui is wrong 03:21 wahanui it has been said that interesting is good 03:21 library_guy interesting 03:21 library_guy *smh* 03:21 library_guy there's one problem 03:21 eythian there yoiu go 03:21 library_guy so 03:21 library_guy ahh 03:21 library_guy -r--r--r-- 1 koha koha 63674 May 23 12:00 blib/OPAC_TMPL_DIR/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl 03:21 library_guy ls -l blib/OPAC_TMPL_DIR/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl 03:20 eythian and if you're using xslt in your sysprefs 03:20 eythian it depends on the nature of the change 03:20 library_guy in the xml file 03:20 eythian what does ls -l opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl say? 03:20 library_guy so is that were I would have to make the change? 03:20 library_guy lol 03:20 eythian well that's a different problem then 03:20 library_guy even as root 0_0 03:20 library_guy but I can't edit them 03:20 library_guy i saw that 03:20 library_guy yes 03:19 library_guy ? 03:19 eythian that string is in the XSLT 03:19 library_guy en 03:19 eythian oh 03:19 eythian what language are you actually using in your sysprefs? 03:19 library_guy but I have no idea how that works :'( 03:19 library_guy when i did a grep for "Copies available for loan" it did show up in the translator 03:18 library_guy yes 03:18 eythian library_guy: what language setting are you using? (i.e. are you editing the template file that you're actually using?) 03:18 library_guy am I missing something? 03:18 library_guy so I did some more digging and noticed that the "for loan" text doesn't even exist in that file o_0 03:17 library_guy so I was looking at opac-results.tt, specifically at the Availability section. I wanted to add the shelving location after the branchname. I noticed that the item location was already selected but when i add the tt code to print it nothing happens. 03:13 mtj aah, i got it 03:12 eythian mtj: yeah, it's just generated as it's needed (which it isn't most of the time, except sending to zebra and doing exports) 03:08 mtj fyi: i will have a look at the 3.4 code later, to confirm all this, but i thought id ask a quick Q on #koha first 03:06 mtj ... but that wasnt the case 03:06 mtj i previously thought the bi level $952 stuff was removed from bi.marcxml, and put in a new items.marcxml column, for 3.4... 03:04 mtj hmmm, my theory doesnt sound correct, to me 03:03 mtj rather than already existing in bi.marcxml ? 03:03 mtj but its now being built on-the-fly, in a rebuild_zebra.pl? 03:02 mtj so, item level xml *is* still being sent to zebra, in 3.4? 03:01 eythian hello :) 03:01 mtj and... hiya eythian ! :) 03:01 mtj aah, click... 03:00 eythian so it's the same as it was 03:00 eythian mtj: marc is created for zebra on export 02:56 library_guy nevermind that is a dumb question 02:45 library_guy does anybody know what the implications would be of adding the shelving location of an item to the opac-results page if the book doesn't have a shelving location 02:15 Brooke kia ora 02:10 mtj can anyone confirm that, off their head? 02:10 mtj so , i assume in 3.4 - availability stuff is now fetched from the 'items' table in mysql? 02:09 mtj i remember in 3.2, availability was got from zebra 02:07 mtj the items stuff looks removed from bi.marcxml, thats pretty good 02:06 mtj hi folks, does anyone understand how item availability is calculated from searches, in 3.4? 00:32 * library_guy wonders what he has gotten himself into 00:28 library_guy atz__++ 00:27 library_guy eythian++ 00:26 library_guy yeah looks like it is accessed by a reference to SEARCH_RESULT 00:25 eythian "_loop" isn't magical or anything, it's just what people call arrays that are passed through to be looped over. 00:25 * atz__ nod 00:25 eythian start by searching for that string in the .pl 00:25 library_guy ahh 00:25 eythian library_guy: yeah, the names can change. But how they do will be defined in the .pl file. Usually near the bottom where it sets up the variables that get passed through 00:25 library_guy what should I look for in the pl file? 00:24 library_guy so if i see a forloop in the tt file with the variable name availalable_items_loop 00:23 library_guy lol well it was just a need...it looked like it would be simple enough...but upon further inspection I was wrong :-/ 00:22 atz__ library_guy: i'm not saying to start elsewhere. it's ok to stick w/ what you are interested in. 00:22 library_guy well I was looking for item type to check that eythian but it looks like the names are allowed to change from the pl to the tt file 00:21 eythian perhaps pick a similar thing and see how that moves through the system to the template 00:21 library_guy atz__: where do you recommend starting? 00:21 atz__ you're starting with one of the more complicated parts... actually, it's new enough i don't even know anymore. 00:20 library_guy so im confused lol 00:20 library_guy but im used to coding in an MVC 00:20 library_guy and somehow move that to the tt page 00:20 library_guy so I know that i need to modify opac-search.pl 00:19 library_guy well I was trying to add the location of an item to the results page 00:19 eythian There's not really a course in the Koha codebase. 00:19 atz__ come back w/ specific questions.... like eythian says 00:19 eythian library_guy: you're probably best of asking specific questions. 00:19 atz__ library_guy: better to just go ahead and mess around 00:16 library_guy so I can do more than just tt changes 00:16 library_guy is anybody around that could help me get more familiar with the Koha code base 00:02 druthb okay, the apt-get install on that new page will let you get thru make test just fine. :) more monkeying with that page later.