Time Nick Message 00:50 Brooke kia ora 00:53 Space_Librarian tena koe 00:53 Brooke Linguist/ Mandarin Chinese (Open Source Intelligence) 00:53 Brooke XD 00:54 Brooke yeah, they are definitely going to fill that post tomorrow... 00:55 * Brooke is sometimes tempted to submit a resume under the name of Pink Unicorn, Invisible. 01:34 Brooke 0/ 02:25 someitguy Anyone have ideas about this error ? Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2672. 04:25 cait morning #koha 04:35 eythian hi cait 04:38 cait hi eythian :) 04:54 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6521] Editing a patron fails with blank cardnumber <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6521> 05:03 cait poedit-- 05:18 cait hm 05:18 cait poedit++ 06:10 mibshy hi #koha 06:12 mibshy shall I download the list of books in the cart in any other format? 06:13 mibshy There is only 3 formats to download the list.(RIS,Bibtex and iso) 06:13 mibshy please help anyone.... 06:26 * Oak waves 06:37 clrh hello 06:37 wahanui salut, clrh 06:40 reiveune hello 06:40 wahanui bonjour, reiveune 06:42 alex_a hello #koha 06:45 paul_p hello from Lausanne, switzerland 06:47 Oak heya clrh and reiveune and paul_p 06:48 Oak :) 06:48 reiveune hi Oak 06:49 Oak :) 06:52 julian hi ! 06:53 Oak hi julian ! 06:53 mibshy hello... is anyone there to help me?? 06:57 paul_p hi mibshy. It's a little bit early for europe. A little bit late for NZ and night for americas. So not many ppl around. But you can throw your question though 06:57 paul_p (i won't be available to answer, sorry, a training start in 3mn for me) 06:58 mtj mibshy: what format do you want your cart-list in? 06:58 paul_p (in something like 2 hours, you should have more ppl) 06:59 kf good morning #koha 07:00 mibshy mtj: I have to download it in .txt or .odt format 07:02 mibshy paul_p: ok thanks 07:04 mtj mibshy: why? 07:05 mtj why do you need to download it in those 2 formats? 07:06 mtj mibshy, but, the short answer is "Koha doesnt currently do that." 07:06 mtj fyi: i dont think .txt is a proper file format :p 07:11 kf hi mtj :) 07:12 mibshy mtj: I have to edit that cart list and want to prepare a new list 07:13 mibshy Can I edit this list in any other method? 07:14 mtj nope 07:15 mtj ... other than dump the 'cart' table to an .sql file, edit the .sql file, and load that into the db, afaik 07:16 mtj i dont think you can upload a cart file, from the Koha staff/opac gui's (yet) 07:16 mtj heya kf ! :) 07:16 mtj would be a nice feature tho :) 07:18 kf hi mibshy an mtj - what was the question? 07:18 kf I missed the beginning of the conversation, but what I often do is email me the cart and import the attached mrc file into another catalog using staged marc import tools 07:19 mibshy shall I download the list of books in the cart in any other format except RIS,Bibtex and iso? 07:19 kf the iso... file that is attached can be imported 07:19 mibshy shall I download the list of books in the cart in any other format except RIS,Bibtex and iso? 07:19 kf iso can be imported from the staff side into another koha installation - that's what I know - but still I am not sure what you want to do 07:21 mibshy My cart contain list of books. I have to download it, edit the list and want to prepare a new list 07:25 kf sorry, I don't understand what you intend to do 07:31 mibshy I have to download the cart list in .txt or .odt format 07:32 mibshy In koha there is only 3 format(RIS,Bibtex and iso) to download the file 07:34 mtj mibshy: you will have to a file conversion 07:34 mtj s/to/to do/ 07:36 mibshy mtj: I didn,t understand.. 07:36 kf mibshy: what do you want to do with the txt or odt format? 07:37 mtj mibshy: you will have to convert your file from (RIS,Bibtex,iso) to (txt,odt) 07:37 mtj how to do that... i dont know :/ 07:38 mibshy kf: I don't want all the details in the list. So I have to edit the cart list and want to prepare a new list 07:42 kf magnuse++ 07:42 kf not sure what you need more thatn the formats supplied. Have you checked sending it to you by mail? it's a text format - perhaps requires not as much formatting as other formats 07:43 kf and a new list what for? printing? 07:43 mibshy ya 07:47 mibshy Actually my requirement is that in the staff client the I have to edit list of books in the search result . 07:48 mibshy but without downloading the result I can't edit the list, isn't it? 07:48 magnuse that's true 07:49 mtj mibshy: theres a bunch of ways to do it, and automate it too 07:49 mtj i'd use a perl script myself... 07:51 mibshy how? 07:55 Brooke kia ora 07:56 Oak Hellllllo Brooke :) 07:56 Brooke 0/ 07:56 Oak \0 07:57 magnuse o/ 08:33 Brooke kia ora shelley 08:34 kf hi SpaceLibrarian_home, hi Brooke and Oak 08:35 Brooke guten tag 08:35 Oak heya kf :) 08:36 Oak are you cait kf ? 08:44 kf yes I am cait 08:44 kf back at work today 08:44 kf you didn't know? 08:45 Oak nope 09:09 SpaceLibrarian_home hey kf 09:09 SpaceLibrarian_home hey druthb. :) 09:10 druthb hi. 09:10 magnuse o/ 09:10 jcamins_away LGA security is fast. And I am bored. :) 09:11 magnuse LaGuardia Airport? 09:11 druthb Good morning, Jared. Yeah, at this hour of the day, I would expect them to be pretty quick. 09:12 jcamins_away Yep. Baton Rouge bound. 09:13 magnuse y'all going to ala or something? 09:14 jcamins_away Yup. A preconference right now, then ala on Friday. 09:14 magnuse ah 09:15 magnuse let's hope rangi doesn't get "ash stuck" (bad translation of a norwegian word coined when that icelandic volcano stopped us) 09:15 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/5171675/Chilean-ash-cloud-returns 09:16 rangi so far still flying to brisbane, where my flight is to, so hopefully be ok 09:16 rangi tomorrows flight to sydney is cancelled tho 09:17 rangi have to be at the airport in about 7.5 hours, so soon find out 09:17 * jcamins_away crosses his fingers for rangi. 09:18 rangi http://www.virginaustralia.com/servicedisruption/index.htm 09:18 rangi as long as brisbane doesnt come up on there, im ok 09:19 magnuse fingers crossed! 09:20 SpaceLibrarian_home eek 09:20 SpaceLibrarian_home rangi: I forgot you weren't flying AirNZ to Aus 09:20 * jcamins_away resets the ByWater demo to MARC21 for the second time this week. 09:21 jcamins_away Has anyone complained that they can't get UNIMARC working on it? 09:22 jcamins_away I figure anyone who keeps on trying is the type of person to complain on IRC that it doesn't work. :) 09:22 rangi not that i noticed 09:23 jcamins_away Okay, I guess I can't leave a message with huginn then. 09:43 jcamins_away Woohoo! Time to get ready to go. Have a nice time-of-day, #koha. 09:45 kf bye jcamins 09:45 kf rangi: everything packed? 09:46 rangi yep 09:53 magnuse hey today is the summer/winter solstice! 09:54 kf :) 09:54 kf have a good trip! 11:28 hdl magnuse: kf : I have strange results page on 3.4 11:30 magnuse hdl: in what way? 11:31 hdl http://imagebin.org/159316 11:31 hdl see the header table... 11:31 hdl Not reall pretty 11:32 magnuse hm, i don't think i have seen that 11:32 * hdl hopes that it is not the way it should look... 11:33 magnuse probably not ;-) 11:33 hdl It is the version on 3.4.x 11:34 magnuse ah yes, i see it too, on 3.4.1+ 11:34 magnuse it's in current head too 11:35 hdl mmm seems it is also in 3.4.1 11:35 hdl git checkout v3.04.01 => same error 11:36 kf hi hdl 11:37 kf hdl: yep it seems the table is broken a little bit - I probably avoided it because it was not breaking something 11:37 magnuse i think i have seen similar things that turned out to be tt-related 11:37 kf tt 11:48 hdl It is not a tt. 11:48 hdl It is a change in the results header colspan=2 for Results. change proposed by jcamins. 11:49 hdl mmm sad thing on an official version. 11:50 hdl Either add a <th>Items</th> Or reintroduce the Results colspan=2 would make that ok. 11:52 magnuse submit a patch and i'll sign off ;-) 11:54 hdl I think it should be <th>Items</th> but don't know the reason why jcamins sublitted that patch as such 11:54 hdl Would like to add some feedback. 11:55 oleonard What patch are you talking about hdl ? 11:55 hdl f1e96f4590b7e91e172d21d488a7ec26de1cc94e 11:56 hdl - <th colspan="2">Results</th> 11:56 hdl + <th>Results</th> 11:57 oleonard First we need to wonder why you're seeing what you're seeing and I'm not. I see no problem with the column header. 11:57 oleonard magnuse do you see it? 11:57 magnuse oleonard: yup 11:58 magnuse both on 3.4.1++ and current master 11:58 oleonard Cart and lists both turned on? 12:00 hdl I think it could be because of xslt syspreds. 12:00 magnuse cart is turned on, not sure lists should matter? (in the staff client) 12:00 oleonard I thought the xslt prefs didn't affect the staff client search results 12:01 magnuse xslt on or off does not seem to affect it 12:02 hdl Re looking at that, I think colspan=2 is required. 12:03 hdl And not <th>Items</th> 12:03 hdl The column for checkbox is the culprit. 12:04 magnuse yeah, calling the column with checkboxes "results" doesn't make too much sense 12:06 oleonard there is a T:T scoping issue at line 421 12:06 hdl but not naming the checkbox column seems quite strange. 12:07 oleonard [% IF ( SEARCH_RESULT.AmazonEnabled ) %][% IF ( SEARCH_RESULT.AmazonCoverImages ) %] 12:07 oleonard Should be [% IF ( AmazonEnabled ) %][% IF ( AmazonCoverImages ) %] 12:08 hdl But it is not the problem. checkbox are in a cell 12:10 oleonard You're right about the colspan hdl, but the T:T issue is part of it too I think 12:11 hdl mmm colspan would get broken when amazon enabled. 12:11 oleonard Try it and see 12:34 kf oleonard: around? 12:34 oleonard Yes 12:34 kf I think there is a way to do it - after I thought about it more 12:34 kf the csv profiles feature under tools 12:34 kf in 3.4 12:34 kf I think those formats show up on lists /cart as export formats too 12:35 oleonard Well, it would be nice to be proven wrong if it means someone gets a feature they need 12:35 kf ...talking about your mail 12:35 kf first day back at work still sorting through piles of mails 12:35 kf it will give a csv output for the fields you defined 12:36 oleonard kf: If you can make it work then feel free to correct me on the list 12:41 jcamins_away What did I do? 12:41 oleonard jcamins_away: We're talking about this commit: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1e96f4590b7e91e172d21d488a7ec26de1cc94e 12:42 magnuse looks like removing colspan="2" here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/catalogue/results.tt;h=b9e269d4d14e88897c51fe786c962e44121e1065;hp=80314709007523cc0ca10479c23e7eabfc7dea0a;hb=f1e96f4590b7e91e172d21d488a7ec26de1cc94e;hpb=e766a92b988c8f929121760d35fabcd89e0cfb0b is causing some trouble 12:42 oleonard Specifically: - <th colspan="2">Results</th> 12:42 oleonard I think the problem goes hand in hand with a T:T scoping issue, but I may be alone in that 12:42 jcamins_away Hm. I can't fillow thst link on my phone. 12:42 jcamins_away Nor spell. 12:43 magnuse hehe 12:43 jcamins_away Anyway, you should fix it. I thibk that's a tt follow up. 12:45 jcamins_away oleonard: will you be at ALA at all? 12:45 oleonard I would consider it worth the trip just for the hackfest, but sadly no. 12:45 * magnuse too 12:46 jcamins_away Aww. I'm sorry to hear that. :( 12:46 oleonard My library doesn't do ALA stuff because the benefits aren't worth the expense to us 12:48 jcamins_away They're probqbly right, but it's still a shame. 3 minutes to boarding. 12:49 magnuse have fun jcamins_away! 12:50 jcamins_away Bye. 12:51 gmcharlt @quote random 12:51 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #21: "<owen> I think we need more quotes!" (added by jdavidb at 04:18 PM, August 06, 2009) 12:53 kf oleonard: can't test today, can try tomorrow 13:03 jwagner @quote random 13:03 huginn jwagner: Quote #101: "<darling> I still need to catch up with current Koha. Is pretty dreamy already." (added by gmcharlt at 02:44 AM, October 29, 2010) 13:10 hdl magnuse: bug 6522 ; patch sent 13:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6522 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , search result list broken 13:13 Waq Hi All, trying to install Koha first time ... me stuck at ... 'make test' ... getting some errors >> Error: Can't locate Business/ISBN.pm in @INC 13:13 Waq any advice? 13:14 hdl aptitude install libbusiness-isbn-perl 13:14 Waq is this for me ... supper sonic reply :D 13:16 kf :) 13:16 kf wahanui: Can't locate Business/ISBN.pm in @INC is aptitude install libbusiness-isbn-perl 13:16 wahanui OK, kf. 13:16 kf Can't locate Business/ISBN.pm in @INC? 13:16 wahanui well, Can't locate Business/ISBN.pm in @INC is aptitude install libbusiness-isbn-perl 13:33 oleonard Waq, what instructions are you following to install Koha? 13:34 Waq after installing libbusiness-isbn-perl .... i run the 'make test' again ... this time .... just before the finish line it says ... Failed 3/89 test programs. 3/10106 subtests failed. 13:36 Waq oleonard, me using the text file description came along with koha 3.2 release ... file:INSTALL.ubuntu 13:37 oleonard Waq: Good, those should be the most up to date instructions. 13:38 oleonard Waq: I'm not an expert, but I think 'make test' errors can be safely ignored. 13:38 Waq after this ... Failed 3/89 test programs ... me going through the log printed on console but so far didn't find anything that could give me any idea. 13:39 Waq do i have to run 'perl Makefile.PL' again . 13:41 Waq b.t.w what is this 'test' that I have to 'make' 13:44 magnuse Waq: there are lots of tests that are run when you run that command, checking that everything is ok before you proceed 13:45 Waq thanks ... but how should i proceed ... after facing 'Failed 3/89 test programs' ... 13:46 magnuse what is the last line of output? 13:46 magnuse does it say PASS? 13:47 magnuse or something similar? 13:48 Waq Result: FAIL Failed 3/89 test programs. 3/10106 subtests failed. 13:49 magnuse hm 13:49 magnuse but you can't spot where it failed? 13:50 Waq might this may help me out .... Error: Can't locate Cache/Memcached.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/syed/Desktop/Koha/release/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR 13:52 magnuse yeah, that might be a problem 13:52 magnuse try "sudo apt-get install libcache-memcahed-perl" 13:52 Waq yeah that folder have just a single C4 folder ... 13:54 Waq Thanks ... going to try it... 13:55 Waq E: Couldn't find package libcache-memcahed-perl ..... after install "sudo apt-get install libcache-memcahed-perl" 13:56 wizzyrea maybe sudo apt-get install memcached instead? 13:57 wizzyrea well and you've got a typo there 13:57 magnuse wizzyrea: i think that would install memcached itself, not a perl module? 13:57 wizzyrea true, my bad 13:57 magnuse ah yes, definitely a typo 13:58 magnuse "sudo apt-get install libcache-memcached-perl" 13:58 wizzyrea ^^ that 13:58 wizzyrea :) 13:58 magnuse is better i think 13:58 magnuse too many c's ;-) 13:58 wizzyrea ^.^ 13:58 magnuse or not enough, tp be precice 14:25 oleonard nengard and sekjal, traveling to ALA? 14:25 nengard thursday 14:25 sekjal oleonard: yes. I leave the house today, around 4pm 14:27 oleonard I'm wondering if anyone can duplicate Bug 6522? magnus_away could, I can't. 14:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6522 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , search result list broken 14:29 kf oleonard: can't test today, but sure I saw it in one of my installations 14:31 sekjal I can reproduce it, yes. Have turn AmazonCoverImages off 14:34 oleonard Thanks sekjal, you're right. 14:44 * oleonard submits alternate patch 14:44 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6522] Search result list misaligned columns if AmazonCoverImages is off <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6522> 14:51 oleonard Dear PTFS: Stop sending me updates from your issue queue. I do not do business with you. 15:02 wizzyrea oleonard: on 6522 (I'm trying to understand what you did exactly, because i'm curious about this scoping thing) the SEARCH_RESULT is the scope, and removing it resolves the issue? 15:03 oleonard wizzyrea: The problem is that if the AmazonEnabled variable is scoped with SEARCH_RESULT it will never be true 15:03 oleonard ...even if AmazonEnabled is on 15:04 wizzyrea ooooo ic 15:07 kf HUNMARC ?! 15:08 reiveune bye 15:10 wizzyrea what was that trick about send-email where you can format and send all in one? 15:10 wizzyrea *git send-email 15:10 kf -format-patch perhaps 15:10 kf -format-patch HEAD 15:10 kf logs will know 15:11 wizzyrea kf <3 thanks 15:12 kf :) 15:13 wizzyrea oleonard: sorry for the spam I want to make sure this works before I send it to the patch list. >.< 15:13 wizzyrea it's just a test of the --format-patch thing 15:16 oleonard Feel free to send all your git-related spams to me, I can't get enough of 'em 15:20 Brooke kia ora 15:21 wizzyrea actually I won't have to 15:21 wizzyrea because I READ THE MANUAL. 15:21 wizzyrea ;) 15:21 kf omg 15:21 wizzyrea shocking, I know 15:21 kf so what is the right syntax? :) 15:21 nengard what about reading the manual?? :) 15:22 kf nengard: do you get a ping when someone says manual? :) 15:22 nengard no - but that would be cool :) 15:22 nengard I just happened to come in at the right time 15:22 wizzyrea git send-email --format-patch origin/master --suppress-cc=author 15:22 oleonard Chatzilla lets you set alerts on custom strings 15:22 nengard i might try that ... but i kind of like my xchat 15:22 wizzyrea in case you want to test the send but not alert the author that you're doing something potentially retarded. 15:23 wizzyrea as I often do :P 15:23 wizzyrea nengard this was the git manual 15:23 Brooke hold in your heart that you can't ever be half the retard I am deary. 15:23 nengard oh - well reading any manual is good :) 15:27 rhcl We have a 1920s tractor manual we plan to digitize; I'll post the link when we get that project finished. 15:28 wizzyrea question that has been bothering me for a while: why is the cataloging search result different from the regular intranet search result 15:29 rhcl "regular intranet" = OPAC ?? 15:29 wizzyrea no 15:29 oleonard Because that's the way it is wizzyrea 15:30 wizzyrea hrmph 15:34 Brooke hotels.com has a 50% NOLA sale on 15:34 wizzyrea lolwut 15:34 wizzyrea dammit dammit and dammit again 15:35 wizzyrea i would love to go down, but I just can't 15:35 wizzyrea :( 15:39 rhcl whereis gmcharlt these days? 15:40 Brooke he's getting an upgrade for his phone booth changes. 15:40 Brooke oh eff, wasn't supposed to tell that 15:40 rhcl well, I don't understand it anyway :) 15:40 * wizzyrea giggles 15:41 * wizzyrea was imagining a little blue box instead 15:46 kf bye all :) 15:46 Brooke rhcl: I imagine he might be headed to ALA 15:48 sekjal I believe gmcharlt is presenting at ALA this year 15:48 gmcharlt yep 15:50 Brooke good on you :D 15:51 Brooke 0/ 15:56 Brooke 0/ 16:00 rhcl does EG run only on MySql? 16:02 gmcharlt rhcl: EG runs only on Postgres 16:06 wizzyrea oy http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8589078/Hackers-steal-entire-2011-census.html 16:37 rangi at airport, flight is on the board so thats good, waiting to check in 16:37 rangi stupid ash 16:37 rhcl Good luck 16:37 oleonard rangi: Got anything good queued to watch during the trip? 16:38 rangi not to aus 16:38 rangi but for the 14 hr flight to la 16:38 rangi true grit and a few other movies 16:39 rangi only 4 hrs to brisbane 16:39 rangi ill try to nap 16:41 * oleonard enjoyed True Grit 16:44 rangi cool 16:44 rangi I can't member the others but there were a few 16:44 rangi dont go to the movies much anymore 16:45 * oleonard knows how that is 16:47 * magnuse is looking forward to seeing True grit 16:53 cait hi #koha 16:55 Brooke howdy cait 16:55 cait hi Brooke 17:09 rangi checked in 17:09 rangi phase 1 complete :) 17:09 Brooke outstanding 17:10 * Brooke finds it harder to compleat phase 3 - get sat in uncomfy chair for a skillion hours. 17:14 cait rangi: wish i could go too :) hope you have tons of fun :) 17:16 rangi heh this is just the short flight 17:16 rangi next one is gazillion hours 17:18 Brooke a yep 17:18 Brooke cross the ditch 17:18 Brooke then cross the big ole ocean 17:18 rangi yup 17:18 Brooke very fast waka at least ;) 17:18 rangi then bus to santa barbara 17:19 rangi then fall asleep talking to brendan 17:20 rangi I still land in la before I take off from wellington 17:20 rangi timezones-- 17:20 Brooke well, if you had just slowed down your flying car, wouldn't have been a problem :P 17:23 cait timezones-- 17:25 cait or everything_being_so_far_away-- 17:25 rangi hehe 17:25 Brooke me, everything is overrated. 17:28 cait only a little 17:41 rangi sache torte isn't overrated 17:41 rangi my spelling is 17:41 Brooke sachertorte mebbe? 17:42 rangi probably 17:42 rangi it tastes good however u spell it 17:46 cait sachertorte 17:46 wizzyrea oleonard: about? 17:47 cait schwarzwälderkirschtorte is good too... 17:47 oleonard Yes 17:47 * wizzyrea muses that anything ending in 'torte' is probably delicious 17:47 cait hehe 17:47 cait yeah... probably :) 17:51 * Brooke further posits that cait is like to have a bead on where to pick it up... 17:51 Brooke or perish the thought, make it from scratch. 18:00 cait have a bead? 18:00 cait I like baking a lot, but normally I do simpler things than torte 18:00 cait like eierlikörkuchen 18:00 cait kuchen is also yummy, but much less complicated ;) 18:08 slef anyone (wizzyrea?) know why it looks like almost all comments on k-c.org are pending? I started to approve them, but there's stuff there which I'm 90% sure used to be displayed. 18:08 wizzyrea yes, there is a very good reason 18:08 wizzyrea I expired many of the support type comments 18:08 rhcl_lunch kuchen is like plum pizza apparently. http://www.kitchenproject.com/german/recipes/Kuchen/images/PlumKuchen.jpg 18:09 wizzyrea and the responses to those (as they were usually) go to the list 18:09 slef I added some blurb to http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ to explain why there are two. 18:09 slef rhcl_lunch: kuchen is just german for cake IIRC 18:10 slef schwarzwälderkirschtorte = Black Forest Gateau ? 18:10 wizzyrea that bit is fine I think 18:10 slef (literally black forest cherry tart, but bleah) 18:10 cait hehe slef 18:10 rhcl_lunch well, it looks like thick pizza with fruit. Ham and pineapple kuchen. Sounds good. http://www.olivebarn.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/peach-kuchen.jpg 18:11 cait can you translate sachertorte too? 18:11 wizzyrea i recently discovered pineapple/jalapeno pizza 18:11 slef we call it sachertorte too :) 18:11 wizzyrea which sounds questionable but tastes awesome 18:11 slef sounds very questionable 18:11 rhcl_lunch sachertorte = brown drippy cake http://www.applepiepatispate.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sachertorte-chocolate-cake-glazed.jpg 18:11 cait hm pineapple ham is yummy 18:12 cait but how did we get from kuchen to sweet pizza? :) 18:12 cait to make it a little harder: donauwelle 18:12 cait yum 18:12 oleonard Is this dinnertime talk for the Europeans or not-enough-lunch talk for the Americans? 18:12 * cait is famous for her donauwelle 18:12 tcohen hi #koha 18:12 slef wizzyrea: were the community told? We gave LL crap for silently removing community content from the old website, so I'm a bit scared we've done it. 18:13 wizzyrea yep, we talked about it in IRC 18:13 wizzyrea there was general annoyance that the comments were unwelcoming 18:13 slef cait: Danube wave? 18:13 rhcl_lunch donauwelle = brown and cream colored brownie http://spaceship.sp.ohost.de/bilder/donauwell.JPG 18:13 tcohen we're trying to organize an IRC meeting to discuss the start of the es.koha-community.org site 18:14 slef tcohen: oic. need the channel? 18:14 slef 18:14 tcohen slef: i was just about to ask what would be better 18:14 slef wizzyrea: our comments or theirs? We probably need to manage both better. 18:15 wizzyrea both 18:15 tcohen slef? a new channel (kohas-es)? 18:15 tcohen s/kohas/koha/ 18:16 wizzyrea unanswered support questions look bad, ones answered with "go somewhere else" also look bad. 18:16 wizzyrea i also disabled comments on all pages, and only allow them on posts now 18:16 wizzyrea which was also discussed. 18:16 wizzyrea in addition, comments are disabled after 30 days on old posts. 18:17 cait slef: not sure, might be - like this http://www.wp-lutz-tommy.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/donauwelle.jpg 18:17 slef discussed only on IRC among whoever happened to notice it? 18:17 cait wizzyrea: +1 18:18 wizzyrea iirc there was a reasonable number of people around, but I admit that I didn't take it to the list. 18:19 tcohen slef: we're about to ask the koha-es community for a date/time for the meeting 18:19 slef Right, two problems here: firstly, because this wasn't documented or announced, I've just wasted my time approving comments on the dashboard which probably need unapproving again; secondly, it looks to any non-authors like we've deleted a load of user contributions from our websites. 18:19 slef tcohen: I'd prefer it here, but others may disagree. 18:19 tcohen then i'll let you know so we can use the channel 18:20 slef tcohen: announce it on koha@lists.katipo because there may be stray Spanophones (what's the proper word?) 18:20 oleonard slef: Aside from those two problems do you object to the change? 18:20 wizzyrea slef: I'm sorry you wasted your time 18:20 slef wizzyrea: I'm trying not to give you too much crap because I agree we need to fix it somehow, but ow! 18:22 wizzyrea technicality: they were not deleted, they were moderated. 18:22 slef ok, I've left 3 comments approved which are on posts 18:22 wizzyrea and if the user logged in they would appear as such. 18:22 slef technicality, I wrote "looks ... like" 18:22 slef only if the author logged in, right? 18:22 wizzyrea right, but they had to log in to create the comment 18:23 tcohen slef: we'll announce on our koha-es yahoo group and koha@katipo to define a date for the meeting 18:23 wizzyrea in the first place 18:23 slef seriously? ooof 18:24 slef well, comment box appears for me on http://koha-community.org/librarian-readable-release-notes/ when not logged in 18:24 wizzyrea hmmm 18:24 slef tcohen: thanks 18:24 wizzyrea actually I remember this now, you're right 18:24 wizzyrea we require email but not a login 18:25 wizzyrea but 18:25 wizzyrea actually, no but. 18:25 slef wizzyrea: let's stick a simple comment policy somewhere, post it on the site, mail the list and make it so. 18:26 slef any idea when the discussion was? 18:26 wizzyrea fyi: it's not updated to 3.1.3 because there's a pretty bad bug (tm) in it. 18:26 wizzyrea so waiting for 3.1.4 18:26 slef heh, I must have dodged that bullet on our new server by accident :) 18:26 * slef looks 18:27 wizzyrea well it was important for us because it messes up the media library 18:27 slef erm, no, we haven't. What bug? ;-) 18:27 wizzyrea maybe newer tarballs have the fix in it 18:27 slef ah, good to know... probably my colleague who actually runs that server knows 18:28 slef anyway, revenons à nos moutons ! 18:28 slef Where shall we stick a simple comment policy? Under about or support or...? 18:28 wizzyrea also, LOTS of those comments were on pages 18:28 wizzyrea which kind of made no sense 18:28 slef yeah I know 18:28 wizzyrea about 18:28 wizzyrea pleas 18:28 wizzyrea e 18:29 slef any idea when the discussion was? So I can summarise it accurately 18:29 oleonard http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-06-08#i_688803 18:29 wizzyrea oleonard++ 18:29 slef ta oleonard 18:29 wizzyrea slef++ for making the page 18:30 slef Remind me, can I make a page appear in the post feed? 18:30 wizzyrea not specifically, no, but you can certainly make a post that links to the new page 18:30 slef I don't often use pages. I ususally use wordpress for blogs, django for content sites. 18:31 wizzyrea I know one of the guys from django. 18:31 wizzyrea heh yea 18:32 wizzyrea sites that use django: lawrence.com 18:32 wizzyrea (the artsy paper thing in my town) 18:32 wizzyrea ljworld.com also 18:32 wizzyrea our local newspaper 18:34 wizzyrea * Adrian Holovaty 18:34 wizzyrea * Simon Willison 18:34 wizzyrea these two guys worked at world online when I worked at the world company 18:46 slef think I've got time to upset nengard by emailing in a late newsletter item 18:46 slef ? 18:46 nengard go for it 18:46 nengard nengard doesn't have enough 18:47 nengard and won't get it done before ALA at this rate 18:47 slef really? I thought your call said you had plenty 18:47 slef maybe I got the wrong impression 18:47 nengard i said i had three articles ahead of time 18:47 nengard but no one else gave me something after that 18:47 slef what you got so far? I can probably crank out two or three short items 18:47 nengard 3.2.10 release 18:48 nengard info on a symposium that took place 18:48 slef heh, probably other fast readers like me misunderstanding :( 18:48 nengard um 18:48 nengard have to go check to see what else is in therre 18:48 * slef goes and fishes out his newsletter TODO item 18:48 nengard global sign off day 18:48 wahanui global sign off day is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Global_sign_off_day,_2011-06-15 18:48 nengard and something about a new bug checking thing chris set up 18:48 nengard that's it 18:58 slef wizzyrea: can we link from the comments form to /about/comments-policy/ too? (I think that might be a theme setting I don't have permission for?) 18:58 wizzyrea yes, I can add that 18:58 wizzyrea ez 18:58 wizzyrea :) 18:58 slef nengard: I'll send you one on the comments policy and one on the next IRC meeting 18:58 nengard thanks! 18:58 wizzyrea (but it will be a little bit i'm in the middle of something) 19:03 slef wizzyrea: np ta 19:13 wizzyrea has anybody had reports of slow cataloging on chrome? 19:14 slef not for a while, but we're clear that only firefox is tested thoroughly 19:15 * oleonard found Firefox 4 (and now 5) to be faster than Chrome for cataloging 19:16 slef oh code4lib were asking if any OPACs validated... based on testing the demos, 3.2 was close (one stray <hr>) but 3.4 is further away 19:16 slef wizzyrea: another thing while you're in the theme, could the demos sidebar box link to the demos page instead of only mentioning bywater? 19:17 slef should spread the load really 19:17 wizzyrea yes, actually I"ve been meaning to get rid of that altogether 19:17 oleonard slef: I'd be happy to try to chase down the problems if you file a bug 19:17 bg yeah we'd like the load spread on there... That way if we are behind updated or something :) 19:17 cait oleonard++ 19:20 slef oleonard: yeah, when I get a round tuit. I suspect the fixes may be obvious once I test them well enough to report them. 19:20 slef if not, you're welcome to them ;-) 19:21 slef mmm, I must email nengard stuff more often :) 19:24 nengard hehe 19:26 slef hrm, I just used #BOGU in a dent. Too blue? 19:31 rhcl http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/230816/gpl_faces_test_in_german_court.html 19:35 slef rhcl: you should follow me more ;-) 19:35 slef http://identi.ca/notice/76789735 19:36 adnc hello koha 19:36 slef hello adnc 19:36 adnc any news about koha 3.4 for debian? 19:37 adnc cait, hallo! 19:37 cait hallo adnc 19:38 cait not as far as I know - eythian said perhaps for 3.4.2 19:38 cait ok, so that is perhaps news 19:39 adnc ;) 19:40 slef bug 6361 19:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6361 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Packages need support for the 3.4 upgrade 19:40 slef if you want to add yourself as a cc so you get told of news 19:41 adnc nice 19:41 slef http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Packaging if you want a web page to watch 19:41 adnc slef, thank you 19:42 slef np. I think eythian might like any help you can give. That page scares me :( 19:45 cait so why will this microphone not work on this computer? hmpf. 19:46 wizzyrea nengard: git also hosted in that same area? 19:46 nengard yes 19:46 nengard i assume so 20:11 nengard git is back up 20:12 wizzyrea wewt 20:39 Brooke kia ora! 20:42 cait kia ora Brooke 20:48 Brooke :D 21:06 pianohacker braaaaaainsss 21:06 * pianohacker returns from the dead 21:06 * Brooke is safe. 21:06 pianohacker Hey, I can always use a little snack :) 21:06 Brooke check Ruth 21:07 * Brooke points to her head. 21:07 Brooke nuffin but wind up here. 21:09 * druthb doesn't have any brains either. 21:13 pianohacker You sure? Think of some of the library patrons you've met, for comparison 21:16 skushner about to install squeeze x64 on vmware as vm..anything i should be aware of? 21:17 pianohacker I've had no problems with x32 and x64 squeeze vms on xen, no idea about vmware tho 21:22 Brooke holy crap, hardball! 23:26 druthb o/