Time Nick Message 22:59 Brooke kia ora! 20:38 * library_systems_guy just wants to help 20:38 library_systems_guy maybe not :'( 20:24 library_systems_guy so if i wanted to get started on some more serious development could I talk somebody into giving me tour of the codes physiology 19:57 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded. 19:57 nengard @later tell slef i just got your message from a day ago about giving me an email address ... but I don't remember what I was asking ... email address for who? 19:57 nengard slef around? 19:56 nengard right 19:56 library_systems_guy right 0_0 19:56 library_systems_guy unless i commit them or stash my changes :D 19:55 nengard but template changes mean that when you upgrade you lose your changes 19:55 nengard the pl files are in folders outside of the tmpl folder 19:55 library_systems_guy ahh 19:55 nengard each tt file has a matching pl file 19:54 nengard in the matching pl file 19:54 library_systems_guy but where do i make the call to the db? 19:54 library_systems_guy so I know I'd have to modify the tt page 19:54 library_systems_guy so I have a code question. I'm not very familiar with the innerworkings of Koha yet and I'd like to pull some information from the database and display it on the results page 16:24 library_systems_guy does anybody have experience setting up OpacSupression 16:04 Oak i mean should it find 'best mirror' every time? why can't it just pick one and stick with it? 16:03 Oak when installing dependencies like: perl -MCPAN -e 'install "LWP::Simple"', does it do this: "Searching for the best CPAN mirrors (please be patient)" *every* time 15:27 rhcl :) 15:27 gmcharlt EIEIO 15:19 rhcl IO 15:17 Oak \o 14:58 reiveune bye 14:31 rhcl We got the solicitation notice, the director wanted my input, and I gave it. 14:29 rhcl The committee is ready to pick an ILS, and soliciting preliminary membership interest. 14:29 gmcharlt cool! 14:29 rhcl Missouri is forming a consortium. 14:28 gmcharlt ? 14:28 rhcl Well, heck, it's happening. 14:05 fcapo Ok, thanks a lot for the help. I'll check with my sysadmin if we can find any disk or filesystem problem or misconfiguration. 14:04 library_systems_guy does anybody have experience setting up OpacSupression 14:02 gmcharlt fcapo: the last step of zebraidx is always slow relative to the rest of the rebuild, but 98% i/o wait is excessive 14:02 fcapo Is it normal to get 98% IO wait when doing partial rebuilds? 14:01 fcapo But checking for genral I/O disk problems seems like a good idea. 13:59 gmcharlt also strace on the zebraidx 13:59 fcapo the load spikes at the end of zebraidx's work 13:59 gmcharlt library_systems_guy: sure 13:59 library_systems_guy just to see exactly when the load spikes 13:59 fcapo The rebuilds really are partial (rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -x) and the RAM seems sufficient (3,5G) 13:59 library_systems_guy gmcharlt, what do you think about fcapo running ps aux to see what exactly is dying when he runs the rebuild 13:57 gmcharlt if you're using virtualization, check the I/O tuning settings for the hypervisor 13:57 gmcharlt try separating it 13:57 gmcharlt if everything (zebra, mysql, apache) is sitting on one filesystem 13:56 * library_systems_guy agrees with gmcharlt 13:56 gmcharlt e.g., if you're using RAID5 for that filesystem, you don't really need it 13:56 library_systems_guy the other is that you have sufficient hardware (mostly sufficient ram since we are using mysql in koha) 13:56 gmcharlt fcapo: another step is just to check for general disk I/O problems, and check your RAID settings on the filesystem you're using for zebra's indexes 13:55 library_systems_guy one is to double check and make sure you are only running a partial rebuild 13:55 library_systems_guy fcapo I'm no expert but there are several things I would check 13:47 fcapo I heard some peoples got Koha instances with a lot more records than that and seems to have no problem. Anybody can share some tips? 13:47 fcapo Our client want to have "almost live" record updates, so we must do rebuilds every 5 minutes or so, but that means a huge slowdown every 5 minutes. 13:46 fcapo Hello, we have a huge slowdown problem on one of our Koha instances. It has ~150000 biblio records and I get 99,8% IO wait every partial rebuild. 12:30 magnuse yay! 12:21 JesseM Nice quote :) 12:18 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #115: "chris: friends don't let friends use proprietary software." (added by chris_n at 05:36 PM, January 19, 2011) 12:18 gmcharlt @quote random 09:01 magnuse cool, thanks paul_p 08:48 mib_sun shall I customize the search list format of books? 08:44 mib_sun hello, can some one help me please? I have a doubt in searching catalog. 08:35 paul_p definetly : the more the merrier ! no doubts ! 08:31 magnuse s/bad/bad idea/ 08:29 magnuse or is it "the more the merrier"? 08:28 magnuse could we risk "tripping over" each other? 08:28 magnuse paul_p and hdl: do you think it would be a good or a bad if i try to announce another global sign off day (gsod!) on the same day as your "community day" (8th july?) 08:23 paul_p hello world 08:22 magnuse kia ora paul_p 08:17 magnuse hdl: the submodule discussion? 08:15 hdl I even think it could be interesting not to have them embedded but used as external dependencies. 08:14 hdl magnuse: same feeling here. 08:12 Oak not working i mean 08:11 Oak and here: http://translate.koha-community.org/ur/34/ur-Arab-pref.po/translate/ looks like the right column is messed up 08:09 Oak in http://translate.koha-community.org/ur/, when I copy the English string to the edit box, and paste the Urdu word replacing English text, some places of % and s get changed... and look wrong. 08:08 Oak not related, but an alternative to yui: http://www.blueprintcss.org/ 08:03 * magnuse wonders if it is a good idea to have stuff like jquery and yui below the language specific directories in koha-tmpl/ aren't they identical for all languages? 08:02 Oak bye cait_mib 08:02 cait_mib ok, bye #koha 07:59 prawesh no problem 07:58 cait_mib sorry that I don't have a solution for you 07:58 prawesh thank u 07:58 prawesh sure 07:58 prawesh i think i will post it in mailing list again 07:58 cait_mib if you write to the mailnig list again include as many information as possible, version, steps to reproduce 07:58 cait_mib never used the old barcode module, did some tests with the new module 07:58 prawesh ok 07:58 cait_mib not sure I can help here 07:57 prawesh may be it will help us 07:57 prawesh to you 07:57 prawesh can i explain what happened?? 07:56 prawesh oh 07:56 cait_mib but if it's a but it's unlikely to be fixed, barcode modue was completely rewritten for 3.2 07:55 cait_mib hm your version is quite old, not sure there was a problem 07:55 prawesh i think i will post with details again 07:55 prawesh i had posted query in the mailing list, but didn't get any reply 07:55 prawesh 3.00.05.003 07:54 cait_mib you chould check bugzilla.koha-community.org for known bugs and file a new one, or ask on the mailing list 07:54 cait_mib which version are you using? 07:54 prawesh ok 07:54 cait_mib I am sorry, I am not so familiar with the barcode module 07:54 cait_mib hm 07:54 prawesh but for old items, it is generating the barcode 07:54 prawesh after adding new items in new or old record, the barcode for it are not generated in pdf 07:54 cait_mib what is your problem? 07:54 prawesh i have problem in generating barcode 07:51 prawesh can some one help me?? 07:47 cait_mib suggestions are broken at the moment - I can't accept those for German :( 07:46 Oak okay 07:46 cait_mib suggest will make a suggestiong, submit will add it 07:46 Oak ooh hi cait :) 07:46 cait_mib if you can only do suggest you should ask fredericd for more permissions 07:46 cait_mib yup 07:44 Oak so if I register, i can help with translating words for Urdu language http://translate.koha-community.org 07:43 miguel good morning, buenos dÃas 07:34 clrh hi cait_mib 07:33 cait_mib hi clrh 07:30 wahanui bonjour, clrh 07:30 clrh hello 07:27 cait_mib hi christophe_c 07:25 christophe_c hi cait_mib 07:21 cait_mib hi all 07:18 mib_sun shall I customize the search list format of books? When I am serching for a book the list contain the item type several types. how can I change this?? 07:07 magnuse bonjour francharb 07:07 francharb hello all 07:06 magnuse bonjour christophe_c 07:03 christophe_c hello magnuse, & all 07:00 magnuse bonjour france 07:00 julian hello ! 06:45 Oak i should confirm from my window though 06:44 Oak i believe there is, in fact many of them 06:44 magnuse yeah, but it's not the most crowded of times, prawesh 06:42 prawesh is anybody out there?? 06:40 reiveune hello 06:28 mib_sun hi #koha 06:15 alex_a hello #koha 06:04 Amit_Gupta heya Oak 05:18 Brooke good morning amit 05:17 pianohacker bye all 05:17 pianohacker now bed 05:17 pianohacker slightly smarter bot than I gave it credit for 05:17 pianohacker hi 05:17 wahanui bonjour, pianohacker 05:17 pianohacker hi 05:17 Oak Hello Amit_Gupta and pianohacker :) 05:16 Amit_Gupta good morning koha ;) 05:11 Brooke 0/ 04:55 Brooke there's that, but it's cheap. 04:55 Oak yes, may be. i should check routes. india pakistan are not two friendly neighbors 04:53 Brooke Train! 04:53 Oak hmm, oh well, first i should start working on how to get there 04:52 Brooke >:) 04:52 Brooke I have deliberately tried to get her goat a couple times, and it's been largely to no avail. 04:52 Oak we'll see 04:51 Brooke it is neigh impossible to annoy druthb 04:51 Oak and annoy you, cait and druthb as much as i can 04:51 Brooke don't miss it when it's so close 04:51 * Brooke nods. 04:50 Oak great.. .i was thinking i may never meet Matthew Perry or Audrey Tautou... but i sure can *try* to be at KohaCon 04:49 Oak oh I did not know about that writer's block... 04:49 Brooke Yes, I will be at KohaCon 04:49 Brooke and I've had it for ages. 04:49 Brooke I have writer's block on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/History 04:48 Oak Brooke, you are attending KohaCon this year... right? 04:48 Oak i googled "Can't eat a speech" and found something... but I totally did not get what you just said. :) 04:41 Brooke I felt like it was coming to me yesterday, but it slipped by coz I looked at too many numbers 04:41 Brooke just wish I didn't have a block on our history 04:36 Oak :) 04:36 * Brooke blushes. 04:35 Brooke heh 04:35 Oak Brooke, I'm a fan now. Officially. Sold. If anyone asks, count me in. 04:26 Brooke "Can't eat a speech" 04:25 Brooke psha 04:25 Oak on page two, Brooke, and wow. you are a writer. excellent writer. 04:21 wahanui :) 04:21 Brooke wahanui botsnack Gillette Chili Dawg 04:20 Brooke ha! 04:20 wahanui i think little mister is a die hard Patriots fan. 04:20 Oak little mister? 04:19 Oak hehe 04:19 Brooke I was so bruised the little mister would have been tossed in gaol. 04:19 Brooke cause if I did 04:19 Brooke I was praying not to fall 04:19 Brooke so as I was walking up to the podium 04:19 Brooke I had karate fight night the night before, too 04:19 Brooke many, many moons back 04:18 Brooke http://mblc.state.ma.us/mblc/legislative/updates/BWSJohnson.pdf 04:18 Brooke here's the written form of testimony I gave 04:17 Oak oh wait, it is funny 04:17 Oak that sounds funny 04:16 Brooke and I don't have anyone to Lobby for currently 04:16 Oak uh oh 04:16 Brooke I'm not in any videos yet 04:16 Oak or as a shark? 04:16 Oak :) can we see you doing a presentation in any KohaCon videos? 04:14 Brooke heheh 04:14 Brooke feedback varies depending on the topic 04:14 Oak true dat 04:14 Oak (heard you say that yesterday) ;) 04:14 Oak true dat 04:13 Brooke but that's better than rambling by a little 04:13 Brooke nasty tendency to read me slides 04:13 Brooke presenting varies from pretty boring to not so bad 04:13 Brooke on the lobbying front I am an unexpected shark 04:13 Oak and listen also 04:13 Oak that must be fun to watch 04:11 Brooke I behave when I have to present or Lobby though :) 04:11 Oak oh good, i feel much better now 04:10 Brooke and pretty much no one understands me, so you're not alone. 04:10 Oak aah 04:10 Brooke it's IRC but voice ;) 04:10 Brooke so like 04:10 Brooke for gaming 04:10 Brooke it's a chat programme 04:10 * Oak sometimes do not understand at all what Brooke says 04:09 * Brooke just tried Mumble in the stead of vent and is hooked. 04:09 Brooke cool 04:09 eythian you better 04:09 Oak :) 04:09 Oak thank you mr. robin, will check this link at once 04:09 eythian *trialling 04:08 eythian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4 <-- youtube is trially a new progress bar 04:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6350 trivial, P5, ---, nengard, NEW , Bug for tracking updates to the history file 04:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5094 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , auth_by_bind authentication can fail even if given a correct password and userid 04:07 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 : Updating history 04:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6512 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Time missing from Item circulation history table 04:07 jenkins_koha * JeremyC: Bug 5094 auth_by_bind authentication can fail even if given a correct password and userid 04:07 Brooke ;) 04:07 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 6512: time missing from item circulation history 04:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #301: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/301/ 04:07 Oak it's funny, I was just thinking about taking the day off and do some personal things pending... 04:07 Brooke ick 04:06 Oak i work on Saturdays also :-| 04:05 Brooke ya you ;) 04:05 wahanui you are Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla. 04:05 Oak me? 04:05 Brooke on weekend :P 04:05 Brooke shouldn't you be uh 04:05 Brooke wait a sec 04:03 Brooke :) 04:03 Oak Hello Brooke :) 04:03 Brooke kia ora 03:59 Oak \o 03:25 jenkins_koha Starting build 301 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 03:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6512 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Time missing from Item circulation history table 03:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4993 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , ldap search always anonymous when using auth_by_bind 03:25 jenkins_koha * ian.walls: Bug 6512: time missing from item circulation history 03:25 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 4993 checkpw_ldap - do bind just once 03:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #300: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/300/ 03:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6350 : Updating history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99a7916b11c0d63ad3c792c7e0213efe4f23e3e9> 03:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_5094' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6ac6167935e6a9c6d8e1f85b1f721d0303bc136> / Bug 5094 auth_by_bind authentication can fail even if given a correct password and... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bb178e30be74abda82eb4fcaaa873be3dfcc5ef> / Bug 6512: time missing from item circulation history <http://g 03:04 rangi yup 03:04 eythian I can still make it cleaner though 03:04 eythian yeah, it will 03:04 eythian hmm 03:03 rangi but the oneliner will warn if $patron->{branchcode} doesnt exist 03:03 eythian good. 03:03 rangi no you arent, functionally its the same 03:03 eythian or am I missing something? 03:03 eythian right? 03:03 eythian my $branches=GetBranchesLoop($patron->{branchcode}); 03:02 eythian is the same as: 03:02 eythian This: my $branches=defined $$patron{branchcode} ? GetBranchesLoop($$patron{branchcode}) : GetBranchesLoop()); 02:58 eythian cool 02:58 rangi some day ill sed them all out 02:58 rangi yup 02:57 eythian do they get silently converted to .tt? 02:57 eythian *tmpl 02:57 eythian what's with the .tmp there? 02:57 eythian rangi: "get_template_and_user({template_name => "serials/member-search.tmpl"," 02:55 eythian https://github.com/petdance/vim-perl/tree/master/syntax <-- vim users, tt2.vim and tt2html.vim are handy 02:42 jenkins_koha Starting build 300 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6512: time missing from item circulation history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbfb68a444c7f30f363b952a40d00870f0a99295> / Bug 4993 checkpw_ldap - do bind just once <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=322a5ef4819960c5ba5b65ce07150ce873aa6a3d> 02:22 huginn 04Bug 5693: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, reed, RESOLVED FIXED, if parentheses used in ccode then searches against ccode fail 02:22 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5693 02:19 pianohacker I'm pretty sure I can fix this with some careful =~ s///, but nothing in C4::Search is ever simple 02:19 rangi there was one for subjects, or itemtypes or something 02:19 rangi ah right 02:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5369 normal, P5, ---, jcamins, NEW , se queries with paranthesis fail 02:18 pianohacker rangi: this is related to bug 5369 02:18 rangi i thought jcamins or reed had done somthing with quotes before and searching 02:18 pianohacker bleh, okay. thanks 02:18 gmcharlt pretty sure quotes is it 02:17 pianohacker gmcharlt: supposing you're still around, what's the best way to escape parentheses in ccl terms? putting it in quotes would work, from what I can read of the parser (indexdata--), but is a little hairy 01:59 gmcharlt ccl is pretty much the easiest of the supported syntaxes 01:59 rangi not particularly, hdl and gmcharlt seem to know the most, but i can take a crack 01:58 pianohacker rangi: are you familiar with zebra ccl syntax? 01:47 rangi did space_librarian get hold of you? 01:47 rangi heya Irma 00:34 eythian That's what joins are for. 00:34 eythian It builds a list of attributes that match the search for 'a' first, and then includes each of those. 00:33 eythian ah, and now I see why it does that. 00:31 eythian er= '' OR borrowers.borrowernumber IS NULL) ))) OR ((( ( borrowers.borrowernumber = '8563' OR borrowers.borrowernumber= '' OR borrowers.borrowernumber IS NULL) ))) OR ((( ( borrowers.borrowernumber = '1000016441' OR borrowers.borrowernumber= '' OR borrowers.borrowernumber IS NULL) ))) OR .... 00:31 eythian 'a' OR borrowers.cardnumber LIKE 'a%' OR borrowers.cardnumber LIKE ' a%') ))) OR ((( ( borrowers.branchcode = 'F' OR borrowers.branchcode= '' OR borrowers.branchcode IS NULL OR borrowers.branchcode LIKE 'F%' OR borrowers.branchcode LIKE ' F%') ))) OR ((( ( borrowers.borrowernumber = '1000005445' OR borrowers.borrowernumber= '' OR borrowers.borrowernumber IS NULL) ))) OR ((( ( borrowers.borrowernumber = '1000002562' OR borrowers.borrowernumb 00:31 eythian SELECT * from borrowers WHERE (((( ( borrowers.firstname = 'a' OR borrowers.firstname LIKE 'a%' OR borrowers.firstname LIKE ' a%') OR ( borrowers.surname = 'a' OR borrowers.surname LIKE 'a%' OR borrowers.surname LIKE ' a%') OR ( borrowers.email = 'a' OR borrowers.email LIKE 'a%' OR borrowers.email LIKE ' a%') OR ( borrowers.othernames = 'a' OR borrowers.othernames LIKE 'a%' OR borrowers.othernames LIKE ' a%') OR ( borrowers.cardnumber = 00:31 wizzyrea !! 00:30 eythian I found a place where koha generates a 2MB SQL query. This may be a bug.