Time  Nick              Message
23:50 ricmarques        rangi / yhager: Thanks! :)
23:48 yhager            sleep tight :)
23:46 rangi             sleep well ricmarques
23:46 ricmarques        Well... It's sleep time for me. Take care rangi, yhager... and everyone else! :)
23:41 rangi             yeah, thats only if the -z is running and somehow a deleted record is still showing
23:41 yhager            rangi: so I assume the delete issue you linked above is not the normal course
23:36 rangi             -z should be enough
23:35 yhager            do I need to run a full rebuild every once in a while, or is -z enough?
23:35 yhager            ok, my problem was in the cronjob, but I am curious about the delete issue
23:33 rangi             yeah check that too ;)
23:33 yhager            wait, I need to check if the cronjob is really running.
23:33 rangi             http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#20
23:33 rangi             if so
23:33 rangi             yhager: is it a book that has been deleted?
23:32 rangi             it might be worth doing a total rebuild
23:32 yhager            I am running rebuild_zebra -b -a -z every 10 minutes.. this had started a few days ago...
23:31 rangi             yhager: you zebra index is out of date
23:31 rangi             theres just too many things that can be wrong ricmarques
23:31 yhager            What could be the reason that when I click on a book in search results I get a 404?
23:31 ricmarques        rangi: OK, thanks for the feedback
23:30 rangi             i dont, someone else might though
23:30 rangi             hmmm
23:30 rangi             to fix the marc?
23:29 ricmarques        BTW. Do you rangi - or anyone here - know about some command-line program to "fix" "broken" ISO files?
23:24 ricmarques        rangi: Sure, no problem :)
23:24 rangi             ill see if i get a chance, no promises though, hopefully someone else gets a chance too, otherwise it will have to wait til i get time .. .. whenever that might be :)
23:23 ricmarques        rangi: Anyway, if you find some ISO to run it over (with the "-t" option if you wish - so it only tests it, but does nothing) that would be great
23:22 rangi             could well be
23:21 ricmarques        rangi: Right... I seem to recall (but I may be wrong) that the "v2 option" worked (dumped MARC records in the first 3.0.x versions). So, it might even be a regression
23:20 rangi             sounds like its a bug to me though
23:19 rangi             ah yeah, i havent had time to confirm
23:19 ricmarques        BTW: have you noticed my post with my "bulkmarcimport" question about the "v 2" option?
23:19 ricmarques        OK. I can try to do that, in the next few days (or over the weekend)
23:18 rangi             that would be perfect
23:18 rangi             yep
23:18 ricmarques        (I would keep both attributions it the path, obviously - to me and to Frank :)
23:18 rangi             nice thing is the wiki is gpl licensed, so you can do that :-)
23:17 ricmarques        rangi: Making a patch with changes from another user and getting karma points from that? That almost sounds like cheating ;-)
23:16 ricmarques        rangi: Ah, you're right... She replied only to me (not to the list)
23:16 rangi             offering you 10 points to make a patch :-)
23:16 rangi             i just followed up too
23:16 rangi             maybe not to the list?
23:16 rangi             hmm didnt see that
23:14 ricmarques        ?
23:14 ricmarques        "If I can get the evaluation forms, I can get those into the program books."
23:14 ricmarques        I see that Lenora has just followed-up to my Reply to Ed Veal (about installing Koha in openSUSE) but I don't understand her answer / comment:
23:13 rangi             :)
23:12 ricmarques        rangi: Hi Chris! I see that I'm not the only one that changed his nick from the IRC server of Katipo ;-)
23:12 rangi             heya ricmarques
23:10 ricmarques        Hi everyone! :)
23:10 ricmarques        Ah, done.
23:09 rangi             yep
23:09 rangi             ahh :)
23:06 eythian           Need to be careful of that...
23:06 eythian           I just about replied to a message on the debian-perl list about installing Koha packages the debian way, getting my mailing lists confused (it was someone asking about installing modules using the cpan tool)
23:03 Space_Librarian   ;)
23:03 Space_Librarian   Kitten huffing is so 2004
23:01 eythian           it's a talent
23:01 rangi             you manage to find the most irrelevant relevant things ;)
23:00 eythian           http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kitten_Huffing <-- relevant
22:57 cait              :)
22:55 eythian           heh
22:55 rangi             got a nice off list email from ed though so it was worth it ;)
22:55 rangi             it was tricky
22:55 eythian           I'm not convinced I could have been so disciplined.
22:54 eythian           rangi: I have to commend you not cracking a joke at "inhalation guide" :)
22:35 conan             later
22:30 rangi             cya
22:29 rhcl              well, let's call it a day. see ya' all tomorrow
22:26 rhcl              um, yea
22:26 rangi             rhcl: airforce eh ?
22:25 rangi             thats a pretty cool address
22:24 rhcl              Yea, I used to work at a different place too.
22:22 * chilts          use to have achilton@esa.int :) <- it was cool
22:22 chilts            so that's good
22:22 chilts            I see XMM-Newton is still going though :)
22:21 chilts            though they carried on doing the project for a year and a half after I stopped on it, only did it for 9 months
22:21 wahanui           interesting is good
22:21 rhcl              interesting
22:21 * chilts          deflects blame
22:21 chilts            that's my opinion anyway
22:21 rangi             ahh that'd do it
22:21 chilts            it was kinda crazy
22:21 rangi             http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-06-07#i_688237
22:21 chilts            [off] afaict they changed them last minute, made them heavier, but never got the chance to do a full deployment
22:20 rangi             test
22:20 rangi             [off] test test
22:20 chilts            heh, how does off work: [OFF] or OFF: or something? ;)
22:20 chilts            it was the parachutes :)
22:19 rangi             :)
22:19 rangi             can we blame you for it being lost?
22:19 chilts            one day I'll have some good stories for my grandkids (I should write them down before I forget)
22:19 chilts            that was for Beagle2, before that it was C for the XMM-Newton control centre
22:18 rangi             sweet
22:18 chilts            yeah, 2000-2001
22:18 rangi             when you were building rockets?
22:18 chilts            I still lurk
22:18 chilts            hello :)
22:18 rangi             chilts! :)
22:18 chilts            Ada 83 (Ravenscar Profile)
22:18 * chilts          used to write Ada
22:14 rangi             yup
22:14 rhcl              When I was a kid growing up anything critical was written in Ada and running on Unix.
22:14 rhcl              I know a group of programmers for a very large public transportation system that are writing mission-critical, public-safety critical, systems in C++ and C# running on Windows servers. It's almost beyond belief for me.
22:12 rangi             well ... "Just use free software!" thats a pretty good one :-)
22:12 rhcl              I have to work to remind myself that Sambais valuable; I really just want to make a rule: "Just use Linux!"
22:12 rangi             the problem for me, with mono, was the patent threats that hung over it
22:11 rangi             yep
22:10 rhcl              who as invested a lot of coding time in a project to make something compatible with MS, and now HTML5 is probably going to make a great deal of it moot
22:10 rhcl              You know, just a philosophical comment here not particularly related to Koha, but the thing I have always thought about Mono and Miguel de Icaza is that we have an obviously very talented programmer
22:05 rhcl              We decided, just for fun, to install wireshark on our koha test server, then do a bunch of Z39.50 checks to different libraries.
22:04 rhcl              No, a cursory search indicates Voyager runs on Windows, haven't checked enough to know if it runs on *nix.
22:04 rangi             chris_n had koha 3.2. running on windows as a proof of concept, it wasnt easy though .. and really ... free stack ftw ;)
22:03 rangi             activestate and strawberry perl are 2 ways to do it
22:03 rangi             oh perl def runs on windows
22:02 rhcl              Of perhaps mild interest, it seems LC and Columbia Univ use Voyager on top of Oracle; Voyager uses perl scripts. By inference, it seems it may run on Windows.
22:02 cait              it's one of those evil bugs
22:02 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , The serials are not working properly
22:02 cait              bug 6305: no idea why no items are created - perhaps someone can take a look at that?
21:57 huginn`           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6305] The serials are not working properly <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6305>
21:53 rangi             atz++ # signing off patches
21:41 rhcl              np
21:40 cait              [Tue Jun 07 23:44:10 2011] [error] [client ::1] [Tue Jun  7 23:44:10 2011] serials-edit.pl: Indicator in 952 is empty at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Biblio.pm line 1906., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-edit.pl?subscriptionid=1&serstatus=1,3,7
21:38 rangi             rhcl++ # thank you
21:38 cait              thought...
21:38 cait              thought I solved the enumchron problem..
21:37 rangi             ?
21:37 cait              hah!
21:35 Brooke            night night
21:35 sekjal            time to go.  night, all
21:24 * Space_Librarian grins at Brooke
21:24 * Brooke          sneaks a wee bit of choc...
21:14 Space_Librarian   :)
21:14 pianohacker       Better go take care of that
21:14 pianohacker       Well, I'm hungry now, thanks to you all
21:14 rangi             heh
21:13 * Space_Librarian hides her chocolate cake.
21:13 * ibeardslee      works out if he has a reason to wander to L7
21:13 Space_Librarian   Thanks cait. :)
21:13 * Space_Librarian accepts half a cookie.
21:12 * cait            shares a cookie with Space_Librarian
21:12 cait              :)
21:12 cait              hi Space_Librarian
21:12 Space_Librarian   hey cait
21:12 cait              thx for the cookies
21:10 Space_Librarian   goeie more ;)
21:10 Brooke            morena
21:10 Space_Librarian   morning #koha
21:10 Brooke            0/
21:09 rangi             :)
21:08 wizzyrea          j/k, I'll consult paul_p in the morning
21:08 wizzyrea          do you know how the opachiddenitems works :P
21:08 * wizzyrea        gives cait cookies
21:07 wizzyrea          no be quiet :P
21:02 cait              :P
21:02 cait              not work on the serials thing?
20:56 wizzyrea          lol no don't!
20:56 wizzyrea          yepper :)
20:56 * cait            decides to be silent and work on the serials thing
20:56 cait              you did that, right? the example?
20:56 cait              ah
20:56 cait              I think it mentioned a file somehwere?
20:55 wizzyrea          just wondering who to ask :)
20:55 wizzyrea          was that a biblibre thing?
20:55 rangi             not sure wizzyrea
20:55 wizzyrea          does it have to reindex?
20:54 wizzyrea          and put in one of the examples
20:54 pianohacker       Hi guys
20:54 Brooke            hey there pianohacker
20:54 wizzyrea          I've consulted the referenced text file
20:54 wizzyrea          opachiddenitems -- does this actually work?
20:51 cait              if there means the congress?
20:51 cait              but not now of course :)
20:51 cait              yes
20:51 cait              can't type
20:51 cait              ye
20:50 cait              here? ses
20:50 rangi             cait: is it very busy there?
20:50 rangi             heya Brooke
20:49 Brooke            :)
20:49 cait              hi Brooke
20:48 Brooke            kia ora
20:45 rangi             ahh i can do that bit, it was more the bit that required diplomacy, and im all out ;-)
20:45 rhcl              I'll get part of it, I don't use AD so won't be much help there, unless I can fiind some docs for it.
20:43 rangi             rhcl++ # for bothering to even look
20:43 rangi             thanks :)
20:43 rhcl              rangi: just came back to the computer, lemme look at the guidance email
20:42 * magnuse         wanders off again
20:42 magnuse           conan: let's talk some more tomorrow (if you havn't fixed it in the meantime ;-)
20:39 rangi             diplomacy worked with ed :)
20:39 conan             so two new syspref marching
20:39 conan             ok then
20:39 conan             hum... then the names would be misleading
20:39 magnuse           i think it's easier to not make old sysprefs do something new
20:38 magnuse           we could change the explanations
20:38 * magnuse         thinks the first one is easier
20:38 conan             magnuse: but check the explanations!
20:38 * magnuse         thinks it's better to create new sysprefs for new functionality, not reuse old ones for it
20:38 conan             which one would be easier to implement?
20:38 conan             did you read the second option? ^^^^
20:37 conan             or we add a new syspref called language_list or available_languages and start using language and opaclanguage to *really* set a default language, and not to hold a language list, which what they are doing right now
20:37 magnuse           cait: yup
20:37 cait              so 4 sys prefs
20:37 magnuse           the sysprefs we have today only set available languages
20:37 cait              I think we need both, default and activated languages
20:37 magnuse           i think two new sysprefs are needed, for default language
20:36 conan             or we add 2 new syspref for preferred language (opac and staff) and change the explanations/definitions on those language options that we have now
20:35 conan             it can be though two ways:
20:35 magnuse           conan: koha does not have a setting for default language now, but i sure think it needs one!
20:34 cait              hm, let's say it works better than before
20:34 cait              solved the second serials problem :)
20:34 cait              hah
20:33 pastebot          "conan" at 190.220.130.20 pasted "default language setting: to be or not to be" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/78
20:32 huginn`           moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 37.0�C (2:56 PM CDT on June 07, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.48 in 998.2 hPa (Steady).  Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT this evening... 
20:32 moodaepo          @wunder 56001
20:31 moodaepo          rangi++ diplomaced++
20:30 rangi             or anyone else for that matter
20:30 rangi             im diplomaced out
20:30 rangi             i answered the inhalation guide, do you want to tackle teh Guidance email from Tim Bateson
20:29 francharb         good night @koha!
20:29 rangi             rhcl: would you be able to do me a favour
20:28 rangi             heh
20:28 rhcl              Inhalation Guide?  That's something I'd write.
20:12 conan             I'm thinking about adding a new syspref to set that, unless someone prove me wrong in the above reasoning
20:10 conan             because upon login koha doesn't know what the user wants anyway
20:10 conan             the cookie is working ok, it should be set when someone chooses the language, not upon login
20:10 conan             Am I mistaken?
20:09 conan             we just give it a list of languages
20:09 conan             never
20:09 conan             From what I'm seeing in Home › Administration › System Preferences > I18N/L10N preferences
20:09 conan             Where are we telling koha we would like to use this or that language?
20:08 conan             I'm thinking this is not a cookie problem, is a logic problem!
20:08 rangi             bus stop bbiab
20:04 rangi             yup
19:58 conan             now I need to figure out why there's no cookie set at the beginning
19:58 conan             and to make it work you have to do an initial language switch
19:57 conan             rangi: so I guess the problem is there's no cookie kohaopaclanguage at login
19:57 conan             rangi: your suggestion to set the language worked
19:54 rangi             you'll figure it out :)
19:53 rangi             too hard to debug on a crowded bus
19:52 rangi             it only reads not sets cookies
19:52 rangi             not the problem
19:52 rangi             but like I say
19:52 rangi             template is a copy from output
19:52 rangi             other way round
19:48 conan             the sub seems to be a copy from Templates.pm
19:48 rangi             it wont be that, that only reads the cookie
19:48 rangi             it does the headers/cookies
19:48 conan             why are there two sub themelanguage ?
19:47 conan             that one
19:47 conan             ah!
19:47 rangi             c4::output
19:47 conan             with a strong remark on maybe ;)
19:47 conan             do you happen to recall where to look? I think maybe it will be easier to look before doing a full install
19:46 conan             I'll have to set up an new installation for that check
19:46 rangi             if not then we do too :)
19:46 rangi             and if so we know where to look
19:45 rangi             the thing is try 3.2 and see if login resets cookie
19:45 rangi             bus
19:45 conan             ah, sorry, are you walking?
19:45 rangi             but I believe u
19:45 conan             the one from above is me, seeing all beautiful in english, using linux+firefox
19:45 rangi             on my phone can't look easy
19:44 pastebot          "conan" at 190.220.130.20 pasted "cookies and language problem" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/77
19:44 rangi             if he sets his language now does that stick?
19:43 rangi             login starts a fresh session
19:43 rangi             yep that I think has always happened
19:43 conan             I'm tailing -f error log and it shows this:
19:42 conan             he doesnt have KOhaopaclanguage nor marcdocs_0
19:42 conan             he logs, we check cookies, boom, only one
19:42 rangi             something to look at then,cookie lost logging in?
19:42 conan             I checked that
19:42 conan             there's no cookie filtering going on his machine
19:42 conan             in fact, I have 3 cookies and he only has 1, the one from login
19:41 conan             I check his cookies, and he doesn't have the Opac... cookie
19:41 conan             and he sees the header and menu in english and the rest in spanish
19:41 conan             then I ask a user to log in and check
19:41 conan             I log in and wander and all is ok
19:40 conan             I just downloaded and installed .po files from Pootle, that are 100% translated
19:40 conan             curious thing
19:40 conan             rangi: couldn't do it then, so I'm testing now
19:40 wizzyrea          as much as I like feeling outrage over the wrongs they have perpetrated on our project, I'd rather just help make koha better.
19:40 conan             rangi: do you recall our talk last wed? you recommended me to fill sub themelanguage with warns
19:39 wizzyrea          to the 2nd, not the "call stallman"
19:39 wizzyrea          word.
19:39 rangi             be nice if the trolls played on their own mailing list
19:39 conan             we should call stallman and sue them for removing names in about :P
19:38 wizzyrea          ^.^
19:38 wizzyrea          so for the record: don't feed the trolls.
19:38 rangi             responding even
19:38 rangi             yep no point responded to his emails
19:37 wizzyrea          besides clarifying that local forks vs what they did are different animals
19:37 wizzyrea          i'm not sure why we're even still talking about this.
19:36 rangi             for the record clay, MJ alone has 3 times as many commits in koha as the whole of ptfs
19:35 rangi             and the rant becomes even less grounded in fact
19:35 rangi             as predicted last worditis kicks in
19:28 huginn`           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6480] Koha produces a lot of apache logs for UNIMARC <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6480>
19:24 sekjal            is there an existing script in /t to tack this onto, or should it go into something new?
19:23 sekjal            I'm compiling a list of MySQL queries to sanity-check a Koha database.  I'd like to automate these in script so one can quickly check their data for known problems
19:16 huginn`           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6479] Encoding problem in "recievedlist" when the numbering formula contains utf-8 characters <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6479>
19:05 Oak               cranky. should sleep. night.
19:02 rangi             ok time to make lunches
18:56 rangi             so sorting that for 3.6 would be great
18:56 rangi             sysprefs change a lot
18:56 rangi             they change rarely
18:56 rangi             and having sql files for them is less of a problem
18:55 rangi             sysprefs is achievable easily
18:55 rangi             yeah those changes are way way away
18:54 rangi             but frameworks, letters etc, all need their own files
18:53 conan             rangi: no, I recall him talking about fields and subfields , I'll check my browser history
18:52 rangi             but for now, we have to update all syspref files until thats done
18:51 rangi             we can change the installer to just use en, no matter what language
18:51 rangi             because prefs are translatable via pootle/po
18:50 rangi             the rest still need sql (and sysprefs do too, until we fix the web installer)
18:50 rangi             only for sysprefs conan
18:49 conan             but someone was proposing another way to deal with those translations
18:49 conan             don't recall the bug number
18:49 conan             tcohen: there's new discussion about that
18:49 rangi             hi cait
18:49 huginn`           rangi: The operation succeeded.
18:49 rangi             @later tell tcohen just fyi for a lot of commits like that a pull request sometimes is better
18:49 tcohen            and the better path to have it
18:48 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6316 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , es-ES translation for SQL files
18:48 tcohen            rangi: i wanted to talk about bug 6316
18:48 Oak               :) yes, i like it very much
18:48 tcohen            Oak: nice version
18:46 * Oak             listening to The Sundays - Wild Horses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9lEd5bIbbQ
18:46 cait              morning rangi
18:45 rangi             tcohen: about?
18:44 Oak               thank you druthb :)
18:44 druthb            welcome back, Oak. :)
18:43 Oak               fun
18:43 Oak               well, it goes daily, will go again at 3am
18:42 Oak               i forgot about the schedule before talking nonsense :)
18:42 cait              :(
18:42 wizzyrea          oh no!
18:42 Oak               uh oh, druthb, cait, wizzyrea electricity went out from 23:00 to 23:45...
18:38 tcohen            hi conan
18:35 rhcl              hi conan
18:34 huginn`           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6316] es-ES translation for SQL files <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6316>
18:33 conan             hi everyone
18:25 huginn`           rhcl: rangi was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 45 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <rangi> and with that, im going to go to sleep
18:25 rhcl              @seen rangi
17:54 * druthb          wonders the same thing.
17:53 Oak               still thinking
17:53 * wizzyrea        wonders if Oak is feeling alright today
17:53 cait              why?
17:53 Oak               ok, i'll think about it why I asked that
17:52 cait              no
17:52 Oak               do you have a cat
17:52 Oak               hello cait
17:51 Oak               :]
17:51 wizzyrea          hey, I was only following directions
17:51 Oak               Whānau
17:51 Oak               aw, you both are too kind
17:51 cait              hi Oak
17:51 cait              me neither
17:50 Oak               hiya druthb
17:50 druthb            o/
17:50 * druthb          can't ignore Oak!
17:50 wizzyrea          nengard hmm
17:48 Oak               good
17:48 * wizzyrea        completely ignores Oak
17:48 nengard           wizzyrea no, it didn't work before the TT change
17:48 Oak               heya wizzyrea did not want to get noticed
17:48 wizzyrea          though the ? makes it look like he's scratching his head
17:47 wizzyrea          er o/
17:47 wizzyrea          o?
17:47 * Oak             waves quickly
17:46 wizzyrea          I suspect that it was a recent TT bug keeping that from working
17:45 wizzyrea          i haven't checked it lately
17:42 nengard           how about the holds stats ... did you ever get that to work?
17:42 nengard           hmmm
17:41 wizzyrea          nengard: I never found that either
17:30 clrh              tcho
17:23 tcohen            i'll use a shell script to split that file into several commits
17:22 tcohen            i have a 3.5MB frameworks file
17:22 nengard           updating the manual in case you all can't tell
17:22 nengard           regarding this item on the release notes for 3.4 "Printed receipts can now include the library phone, address and other fields" how does it work? What do you do to customize it?
17:22 chris_n           tcohen: make more frequent commits, maybe?
17:15 tcohen            anyone there to give me a hint?
17:11 tcohen            i'm stuck, couldn't ifnd a way to split a file into several patches (for size matters)
17:07 huginn`           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6478] purge_suggestions.pl needs an example crontab <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6478>
17:07 cait              hi :)
17:06 Agent_Dani        Hi!
17:05 druthb            folks, say howdy to Agent_Dani, a friend of mine who has expressed some interest in our little community...she's a DRA admin from way back.  :)
17:05 wizzyrea          now: lunch.
17:04 wizzyrea          zounds how did this ever work before git bz
17:03 * Agent_Dani      has managed such on occasion.
17:02 wizzyrea          thanks :)
17:01 * cait            sends liz a cookie
17:00 wizzyrea          perhaps if your terminal window was not dragged half way off of your screen
17:00 * wizzyrea        facepalms
17:00 wizzyrea          derr
17:00 * wizzyrea        mutters
17:00 wizzyrea          !
17:00 wizzyrea          and oy! purge_suggestions isn't in 'cronjobs'
16:58 * magnus_away     gotta run
16:56 wizzyrea          is current
16:56 wizzyrea          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/cronjobs/crontab.example;h=b43d377280e2e0643021f8fd0a1a105acba8f243;hb=HEAD
16:55 wizzyrea          are there any other new cronjobs that need to be added while i'm in there?
16:54 wizzyrea          hehe
16:54 magnuse           ;-)
16:53 huginn`           magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
16:53 magnuse           @quote get 123
16:53 magnuse           but then again
16:53 wizzyrea          right
16:53 magnuse           i doubt there are many libraries that would run out of space because that script was not run more often
16:52 magnuse           sounds good to me
16:52 wizzyrea          weekly?
16:52 wizzyrea          or, we should come up with a recommended interval
16:51 wizzyrea          I'd need to know the recommended interval tho >.>
16:51 * magnuse         urges wizzyrea on
16:51 * wizzyrea        has a mind to do it
16:51 wizzyrea          what's the recommended interval for that
16:51 wizzyrea          if there's a new job
16:51 wizzyrea          also, we should add an example cron to the crontab.example
16:43 hdl               perl purge_suggestions.pl -?
16:43 nengard           that i knew :) just wanted to include instructions on how to use the cron in the manual - i have the perl docs in the manual if they exist
16:43 hdl               perl purge_suggestions.pl --h
16:42 hdl               purge_suggestions is to delete the old suggestions.
16:42 magnuse           No documentation found for "purge_suggestions.pl".
16:42 hdl               perldoc myscript.pl
16:42 hdl               perldoc
16:32 nengard           what is the command to view the perl doc?  i want to see what purge_suggestions.pl does
16:23 wizzyrea          git for beginners is at http://sixrevisions.com/resources/git-tutorials-beginners/
16:22 wizzyrea          http://sixrevisions.com/resources/git-tutorials-beginners/
16:22 wizzyrea          ooooh
16:13 magnuse           hey, who needs dead treas when you can access the content 24/7 from google - from anywhere? ;-)
16:08 wizzyrea          yea, what's that about
16:05 * druthb          boggles
16:04 rhcl              Quote: "A library that would prefer to not be named was found to be thinning their collections and throwing out books based on what had been digitized by Google."
15:59 wizzyrea          neat !
15:59 wizzyrea          http://blog.archive.org/2011/06/06/why-preserve-books-the-new-physical-archive-of-the-internet-archive/
15:51 huginn`           rhcl: rangi was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 12 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <rangi> and with that, im going to go to sleep
15:51 rhcl              @seen rangi
15:40 druthb            magnuse++
15:38 * magnuse         blushes
15:36 slef              magnuse++
15:06 magnuse           http://www.cyclingforlibraries.org/ has reached berlin!
14:58 reiveune          bye
14:42 wahanui           mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
14:42 wizzyrea          mailing lists?
14:42 wizzyrea          mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
14:41 wahanui           wizzyrea: I forgot mailing lists
14:41 wizzyrea          forget mailing lists
14:41 wahanui           mailing lists is better imho
14:41 cait              mailing lists?
14:40 magnuse           koha_community++
14:40 slef              bg++ too
14:39 wizzyrea          !
14:39 slef              wizzyrea++
14:39 sekjal            hi cait
14:38 cait              hi sekjal
14:38 sekjal            hi, magnuse!
14:38 magnuse           kia ora sekjal!
14:36 huginn`           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6299] Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6299>
14:26 magnuse           lots of sign offs any way ;-)
14:26 magnuse           yup
14:25 paul_p            not possible for biblibre on 15th (3 devs outside, for a customer installation or training, including hdl & clrh). So let's stay with 15th for you and 10th for us, next time we will coordinate better ;-)
14:22 magnuse           :-)
14:22 * magnuse         has nothing against fridays
14:22 magnuse           cool
14:21 paul_p            magnuse, we don't plan to do signoff only, but also other stuff ;-)
14:21 magnuse           and/or expand it to other stuff, like closing bugs etc
14:21 paul_p            i'll check if we can switch our 1st day to the 15th. But then, we think that friday is a good day (end of the week for everybody)
14:21 magnuse           if a global sign off day is a success we can coordinate it with biblibre in the future
14:20 magnuse           i think 3 days warning might have been a bit short?
14:20 magnuse           well, this is just to set the ball rolling
14:19 magnuse           biblibre++
14:19 * cait            will spend 10th on a train
14:18 cait              biblibre++
14:18 paul_p            (wanted to announce that, but magnus mail has been sent before...)
14:17 paul_p            I ask because yesterday, we've dediced to dedicate half a day every 2 weeks to this task (for all BibLibre), and our 1st will be 10th ...
14:17 cait              15th is my fault...
14:17 wizzyrea          i like how paul_p cracks the whip on signoffs :)
14:17 cait              ;)
14:17 cait              why 10th?
14:17 paul_p            magnuse, why 15th ? why not 10th (for the global sign-off day)
14:10 cait              hehe probably
14:09 paul_p            damned, i'm caught :D
14:09 magnuse           paul_p is probably just fishing for double ++'s ;-)
14:08 paul_p            ;-)
14:08 cait              but paul_p++ for the other too :)
14:08 cait              koha-devel :)
14:08 paul_p            :D
14:07 paul_p            cait, for which mail ? the koha-devel or the holiday in Marseille ? ;-)
14:07 paul_p            same question as the one asked to magnuse :
14:07 cait              paul_p++
13:56 magnuse           cool
13:55 cait              yep
13:53 magnuse           good busy?
13:53 cait              busy :)
13:52 magnuse           how's the bibliothektag, cait?
13:52 magnuse           o/
13:50 * cait            waves
13:48 wizzyrea          slef++
13:47 wizzyrea          paul_p++
13:44 magnuse           although i was thinking about the koha-devel one right now
13:43 magnuse           ;-)
13:43 magnuse           paul_p++
13:43 magnuse           ok then
13:42 paul_p            and only 1 ++ ? (in french we say "radin", which is translated by google to skinflint or tightwad. dunno if it's a correct translation, "radin" has a funny/joking part)
13:41 magnuse           paul_p: both, definitely! ;-)
13:40 paul_p            magnuse, for which mail ? the koha-devel or the holiday in Marseille ? ;-)
13:40 magnuse           paul_p++
13:37 tcohen            is that the common workflow every other language followed?
13:36 tcohen            can the RM do it so it is up-to-date? (i.e. no wait until accepted)
13:36 tcohen            do I make a copy of 'en'?
13:36 tcohen            I want to make translating SQL files for 'es-ES' possible
13:23 vfernandes        but the problem with author ordering remains
13:23 vfernandes        problem with title ordering solved
13:05 tcohen            hi #koha
12:43 slef              hrm, don't know if that will do any good
12:08 Brooke            0/
11:58 huginn`           vfernandes: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
11:58 vfernandes        vfernandes++ lol
11:58 vfernandes        commentate doesn't solve my problem but changing the map solved :)
11:47 vfernandes        *works
11:47 vfernandes        i've commentated that mapping... let's see if worls
11:47 vfernandes        i've changed marc_defs of zebra where there is a map of the words "The", "An", "a"...
11:44 Brooke            0/
11:34 vfernandes        damn :/
11:23 vfernandes        there is also problem with portuguese titles "A história"... "A" doesn't counts for ordering
11:21 Brooke            0/
11:20 Brooke            diplomatically, of course ;)
11:20 Brooke            then show the Librarian 4.
11:20 vfernandes        i know that isn't a bug, but for me it's a problem because the librarian i'm work with wants it correctly ordered
11:19 Brooke            See 4 Initial Articles.
11:19 Brooke            http://books.google.com/books?id=wEp25PYG7f0C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
11:18 Brooke            here I'll dig up the filing rules
11:18 Brooke            language is filed letter by letter word by word
11:18 Brooke            there is no bug
11:16 vfernandes        i don't even know where to start debugging the problem
11:15 Brooke            so my verdict is, you'll drive yourself insane if you try and fix summat that isn't actually broken.
11:14 Brooke            though it probably treats : as a full stop
11:13 Brooke            arguably the prejudice titles are improperly sorted.
11:12 Brooke            as with stephen king's "It"
11:12 Brooke            and it oughtn't unless that article is special
11:12 slef              The is a stop word
11:12 Brooke            it isn't sorting on initial articles
11:12 Brooke            that looks to be how it is meant to sort
11:11 vfernandes        how to solve this? any idea slef or Brooke?
11:09 vfernandes        without "The" the result list is well ordered
11:08 vfernandes        http://catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=prejudice&offset=0&sort_by=title_az
11:08 vfernandes        why doesn't count "the"? is a word... lol i'm not a librarian so it's making me confused
11:06 Brooke            because you ought have summat in there that says "Hey! Skip this crap." namely a 4
11:05 Brooke            or at least, shouldn't.
11:05 Brooke            MARC usually doesn't count "The"
11:03 vfernandes        i think that zebra doens't count with word "The"
11:01 vfernandes        maybe but how i can debug the problem?
10:58 slef              sounds like zebra config, perhaps?
10:56 vfernandes        what could be wrong with ordering?
10:55 vfernandes        in the Author it appends the same thing
10:49 vfernandes        *how ordering
10:49 vfernandes        let me start with one question: who ordering by title result search records work? because when ordering from A to Z it appears for example A then T then C... which is a incorrect order
10:47 wahanui           niihau, Brooke
10:47 Brooke            hola
10:47 vfernandes        hi people :)
10:45 slef              Eventually, enough people believe the lies that it harms you.
10:44 slef              Possibly they will repeat them.
10:44 slef              You cannot let lies go unchallenged because some people will believe them.
10:44 slef              I've suffered it many times.
10:44 slef              "don't feed the troll" is an antipattern
10:42 Brooke            night rangi
10:42 * Brooke          gives slef an inoculation against last word syndrome.
10:41 magnuse           sleep tight, rangi
10:39 rangi             and with that, im going to go to sleep
10:36 rangi             so stupid, i wish they would just play in their own sandpit and leave everyone else alone
10:36 rangi             bleagh
10:36 rangi             maybe it will now be the UK koha
10:35 rangi             so im sure some crap will come back
10:34 rangi             if you want to feed the troll, they have a case of last worditis
10:34 slef              I'd like to rebut but minimise the time.
10:34 slef              so I can just reply with "that's been fixed and there are other capacity-improvement patches and branches linked on the wiki"?
10:34 rangi             the detail pages get a bit clunky, but thats nothing a bit of paging couldnt fix
10:33 rangi             but yes, if you rebuild_zebra with -b -x -z and another job running -a -z it copes with 100s of items
10:32 rangi             its not worth the time, its bullshit and the author knows it too
10:32 rangi             slef: dont expect anything but lies, thats all i expect
10:32 slef              hi druthb
10:31 slef              so after detaching items from biblios, koha doesn't handle 100s of items in 3.4? Or have I misunderstood when that happened or its effect?
10:31 * druthb          waves to slef.
10:31 slef              hrm
10:30 druthb            hi, magnus and rangi! :D
10:29 rangi             hi druthb
10:29 druthb            o/
10:28 magnuse           o/
10:25 magnuse           ok, thanks
10:25 rangi             red, orange and green
10:24 magnuse           rangi: what colour names are you using in bug_status.pl? i'm trying to convert it into an image...
10:17 Brooke            0/
10:05 rangi             ill pester wizzyrea about it tomorrow
10:05 magnuse           probably
10:05 rangi             on the main site
10:05 rangi             but it should be easy to add with ajax to th get-involved page
10:05 rangi             sounds likely
10:02 magnuse           i think you need to fiddle with php and extensions on the server to get it into the wiki page, Brooke...
10:01 magnuse           cool, i'll send the email in a short while
10:01 Brooke            I added a link, but I should poke at it to embed cooly
10:00 rangi             magnuse: i have nothing to add to the wiki page
09:41 * Brooke          thinks this is prolly an opportune time to complain about the router again...
09:36 magnuse           woohoo ;-)
09:36 rangi             they are ipv6 all the time now ;)
09:35 rangi             scroll down to the bottom
09:35 rangi             http://www.worldipv6day.org/
09:35 Brooke            but not me, cause Comcast sucks again.
09:35 Brooke            and Ore Pee Eye!
09:34 magnuse           huh?
09:34 rangi             and a few norwegian ones
09:33 Brooke            Kansas is on there ;)
09:33 Brooke            dude!
09:31 rangi             google and a few others will be serving over ipv6
09:31 rangi             well probably us time
09:30 Brooke            do they mean New Zealand, or do they mean for the unwashed masses?
09:30 rangi             http://test-ipv6.com/
09:30 magnuse           http://www.worldipv6day.org/
09:30 rangi             8th june
09:29 rangi             or soon will be
09:29 rangi             its ipv6 day
09:27 Oak               :)
09:27 Brooke            see ya!
09:26 * Brooke          thinks huginn ought know which wellies we mean
09:26 Oak               later
09:26 Oak               time to get ready for class
09:24 huginn`           magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on June 07, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
09:24 magnuse           @wunder wellington, new zealand
09:24 huginn`           magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
09:24 magnuse           @wunder wellington
09:24 magnuse           right you are wahanui!
09:24 wahanui           summer is probably here now
09:24 magnuse           summer!
09:23 huginn`           magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0�C (9:50 AM CEST on June 07, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
09:23 magnuse           @wunder boo
09:21 Oak               oh good, it's cooler than yesterday
09:21 huginn`           Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 39.0�C (12:00 PM PKT on June 07, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
09:21 Oak               @wunder islamabad
09:17 Oak               hm
09:15 Brooke            wiki should be relatively the same
09:15 Brooke            I was messin' with the wiki.
09:15 Brooke            now that we need vocabulary for
09:15 Oak               now time for lunch...
09:15 Oak               i made a newsletter, and made updates to one of our websites
09:15 rangi             and you?
09:14 rangi             my day is really good
09:14 rangi             what are you working on today
09:14 Oak               but i would not say that to my mom
09:14 rangi             but doesnt really answer the question
09:14 Oak               quite friendly in fact
09:13 rangi             nope
09:13 Brooke            isn't Hei aha māu? a wee bit combative?
09:12 rangi             brooke asked what you are working on today
09:12 Oak               hmm, yes
09:12 rangi             but not quite right
09:11 Oak               better!
09:11 Oak               Pai mārika taku rā! Hei aha māu?
09:10 Oak               that's wrong
09:10 Oak               no wait
09:10 Oak               Brooke, Piro rawa atu! He aha pea he mahi mā tāua?
09:09 Brooke            prolly :D
09:09 magnuse           hm, i wonder if there is some way to get it into the wiki...
09:09 rangi             feel free to embed it with ajax whereever you like
09:09 magnuse           rangi: very cool!
09:09 rangi             it actually isnt futile ;-)
09:08 rangi             yep :)
09:08 Brooke            it's like homeland security but better!
09:08 rangi             and then green below 30
09:08 rangi             it changes to orange when it gets below 60
09:08 rangi             magnuse: http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_status.pl
09:07 Oak               Tāiho
09:06 Oak               uh oh. i'll get back to you in few minutes with an answer
09:06 Brooke            He aha ō mahi i tēnei rā?
09:05 Oak               :]
09:05 Brooke            heheh
09:05 Oak               Whānau
09:04 Oak               :)
09:04 Brooke            :)
09:04 Oak               Haere Mai Brooke
09:03 Brooke            kia ora
08:53 rangi             the rest are fine tho :)
08:52 rangi             yeah, id just avoid the one thread, its pointless
08:49 magnuse           depends on when you opened it last...
08:48 slef              hrm, so I'm not going to enjoy opening my koha list mailbox today, am I?
08:40 magnuse           one more sign off now and we reach an all time low (?) of 65!
08:40 cait              :)
08:39 Oak               take care
08:39 magnuse           have fun cait!
08:39 cait              ok, have to go to find our booth
08:39 cait              magnuse: wiki page looks great
08:39 christophe_c      hi cait
08:38 cait              magnuse++
08:38 cait              hi christophe_c :)
08:36 christophe_c      hello all
08:35 christophe_c      sophie_m++
08:35 christophe_c      ;-)
08:35 christophe_c      magnuse++
08:35 christophe_c      oups sry :-[
08:35 magnuse           bonjour christophe_c
08:35 rangi             hi christophe_c :)
08:34 magnuse           christophe_c: skip the @ ;-)
08:34 christophe_c      hello
08:34 rangi             heh
08:34 huginn`           christophe_c: downloading the Perl source
08:34 christophe_c      @sophie_m++
08:34 magnuse           hm, this might be a better name for it: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Global_sign_off_day,_2011-06-15 (or is glogal a word?)
08:31 magnuse           first attempt at a wiki page: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Glogal_sign_off_day,_2011-06-15 i'll give y'all a little time to improve it before i send an email to the lists ;-)
08:29 Oak               I should try to replicate this look http://alshafallah.maktabat-online.net/ on local install ... just for fun :)
08:27 cait              oh :(
08:27 Oak               ... electricity was out
08:13 rangi             cool
08:12 magnuse           yay
08:12 Oak               nice
08:11 cait              ...and found the link: http://alshafallah.maktabat-online.net/
08:08 * cait            sends lots of cookies and chocolate
08:07 magnuse           rangi: consider it done ;-)
08:07 rangi             ok, i reckon 15 it is magnuse
08:05 rangi             in nz, we have cherries for christmas
08:05 paul_p            a "clafouti aux cerises" last week too
08:05 rangi             ohh cherries
08:05 paul_p            some cherries from the garden last week
08:04 paul_p            what is very nice with being 15 at BibLibre, is that we really often have someone coming with some good things
08:04 magnuse           kim++
08:04 cait              kim++
08:04 magnuse           tiramisu++
08:04 paul_p            (kim = our sales assistant)
08:04 rangi             :)
08:04 paul_p            (not really french, but really good though :D )
08:04 magnuse           ooh
08:03 paul_p            but it seems kim made some tiramisu
08:03 paul_p            well, today, no creme brulee or pain au chocolat
08:02 Oak               and Italy
08:02 cait              or yummy pizza
08:01 Oak               ok, me too then
08:01 * cait            too
08:01 * magnuse         too
08:00 * rangi           wants to visit france again
08:00 rangi             or creme brulee
08:00 Oak               :D
08:00 Oak               that can't be possible
08:00 magnuse           hehe
08:00 rangi             :-)
08:00 rangi             i suspect they are all busy eating pain au chocolat
08:00 Oak               ah, cool
08:00 Oak               yes!
08:00 rangi             about 10 people here :)
07:59 cait              Oak: 15th ok for you?
07:59 Oak               who is from france?
07:59 cait              silence
07:58 rangi             any opinions from france? :)
07:58 magnuse           ok, that's settled then?
07:57 rangi             15 is fine by me
07:57 cait              ok, now I feel like pushing you around. Set a date and I will try to find that link I was looking for
07:56 rangi             but it would be ok by me
07:55 magnuse           hehe
07:55 rangi             the only thing is that is pretty close, might be hard for people to organise
07:55 cait              15... nice.. middle of month...
07:55 magnuse           fine with me
07:55 cait              last try, what about wednesday?
07:54 magnuse           sure
07:54 rangi             we might get some new volunteers ;)
07:54 rangi             why not to the main one too
07:53 magnuse           just to the devel-list, right?
07:53 magnuse           i can do a wiki page and send an email
07:53 magnuse           so we have landed on the 17th?
07:52 magnuse           yeah, that would be cool
07:51 rangi             we could do one every month
07:51 rangi             if it works
07:51 cait              it's ok
07:50 magnuse           cancel the zoo and teach her to help you sign off patches ;-)
07:50 rangi             you have already done lots anyway
07:50 cait              it's not about me
07:50 cait              we will be at the zoo on friday
07:50 cait              and arrives on thursday
07:50 Oak               :)
07:50 cait              she will keep me up
07:50 rangi             which is the 16th
07:50 rangi             hehe, you can do it nz time cait
07:49 cait              hmpf
07:49 cait              so even worse
07:49 cait              t
07:49 cait              and you were talking about next friday 17th - not travelling then, but have a gues
07:49 rangi             yeah, mondays are always busy too
07:49 cait              bad suggestion
07:49 cait              right, here too
07:48 magnuse           13th? that's a holiday here...
07:48 cait              ... but I see that friday makes sense probably
07:48 cait              what about monday next week?
07:47 magnuse           showing who has signed off the most?
07:47 rangi             and do a leaderboard :)
07:46 rangi             but i can do lots of reports as the day goes on
07:46 magnuse           ohh, cool!
07:46 rangi             that changes colour ;)
07:46 rangi             on the get-involved page
07:46 rangi             what id like is a little status button
07:46 magnuse           a little bit, yes ;-)
07:45 rangi             but the url is horrid :)
07:45 rangi             yes
07:45 magnuse           oops
07:45 magnuse           pe2=substring&emailtype3=substring&field0-0-0=cf_patch_status&keywords=&keywords_type=allwords&longdesc=&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&query_format=report-graph&resolution=---&short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&type0-0-0=notequals&value0-0-0=---&x_axis_field=&y_axis_field=cf_patch_status&z_axis_field=&format=bar&ctype=png&action=plot&width=600&height=350
07:45 magnuse           it's possible to get graphs from bugzilla too: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/report.cgi?bug_file_loc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_id=&bug_id_type=anyexact&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cumulate=0&deadlinefrom=&deadlineto=&email1=&email2=&email3=&emailassigned_to1=1&emailassigned_to2=1&emailcc2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailtype1=substring&emailty
07:45 miguel            hello all
07:45 cait              could try that
07:44 magnuse           cait: claim a couple of bugs before you set off, download the patches and test offline
07:44 cait              downloading files and looking at twitter was too much
07:43 cait              I had a hard time to stay on irc
07:43 cait              with that wobbly internet connection? :(
07:43 cait              yep
07:43 magnuse           cait: you can test patches on the train!
07:43 Oak               like... 'that's my bug, go find your own bug'
07:43 magnuse           yup
07:42 rangi             claim a bug
07:42 rangi             that sounds like a good idea too
07:42 magnuse           sounds cool!
07:42 rangi             and green if under 20
07:42 magnuse           yeah, we might have a page on the wiki where people can say what they are testing, so we are not all testing the same thing?
07:42 rangi             orange if under 50 over 20
07:42 rangi             that moves from red if over 50
07:42 rangi             how about a realtime count
07:41 cait              perhaps a page on the wiki
07:41 cait              real time would be good
07:41 rangi             and make funky graphs
07:40 cait              travelling all day on friday
07:40 rangi             because i can query the db
07:40 cait              oh :(
07:40 rangi             i can do something
07:40 magnuse           are there any cool ways we could visualize the work done? to make it more inspiring?
07:40 rangi             there are quite a few patches i reformatted, so cant sign off on
07:40 magnuse           ;-)
07:40 magnuse           hehe, thought so!
07:40 rangi             ill leave it for you to propose it on the lists then ;)
07:39 magnuse           that would be perfect for me!
07:39 rangi             how about next friday, 17th
07:39 magnuse           "in june" might have been better
07:39 rangi             hehe im used to it :)
07:38 magnuse           ah, sorry for northern-hemispere-centricity rangi ;-)
07:38 * cait            is still a bit sleepy
07:38 cait              :)
07:38 cait              hmpf
07:38 rangi             winter cait :)
07:38 cait              what is before october?
07:38 rangi             a global sign off days, 24 hours in whatever timezone you are in, to try and get as many signed off as possible
07:37 magnuse           would be good if the number was a bit lower...
07:37 Oak               rangi++
07:37 rangi             but yes
07:37 rangi             so lots of time ;)
07:37 rangi             well thats not until october
07:36 magnuse           maybe we should declare a global signing off day before summer?
07:36 cait              rangi++
07:36 magnuse           rangi++ # for signing off patches
07:36 rangi             heya cait
07:34 cait              hi rangi
07:32 rangi             yep
07:31 Oak               :)
07:30 Oak               peace now?
07:30 rangi             back, kids asleep
07:23 Amit_Gupta        heya collum
07:23 Amit_Gupta        heya chris ;)
07:16 cait              hi magnuse :)
07:16 magnuse           guten morgen cait
07:13 cait              but depends on what you want to do
07:13 cait              intranetuserjs and intranetusercss in the sysprfs
07:13 cait              aaaa: you can use css and jquery I think
07:13 aaaa              the GUI part
07:13 aaaa              ?
07:13 aaaa              How to modify the login screen of koha
07:10 Oak               that's good.
07:10 Oak               enough
07:10 cait              yeah, had a good breakfast and have some time
07:09 Oak               just enought
07:09 Oak               nah :)
07:09 cait              too many smileys?
07:08 Oak               good mood huh?
07:08 cait              hi Oak :)
07:08 cait              it's too early
07:08 cait              ah, wrong window :)
07:08 Oak               good morning to you too cait :)
07:08 Oak               thank you thank you
07:07 cait              konferenzwlan leider furchtbar langsam
07:07 cait              good morning from berlin! :)
07:00 magnuse           bonjour julian
07:00 julian            hello #koha
06:58 magnuse           bonjour hdl
06:56 hdl               hi all
06:52 magnuse           bonjour alex_a
06:52 alex_a            hello magnuse rangi and all
06:40 magnuse           bonjour clrh
06:40 clrh              hi
06:38 reiveune          hi rangi
06:38 magnuse           ata marie rangi
06:38 rangi             hi magnuse and reiveune
06:34 reiveune          hi magnuse
06:34 magnuse           bonjour reiveune
06:33 wahanui           what's up, reiveune
06:33 reiveune          hello
06:27 magnuse           kia ora #koha
06:10 rangi             hi Ropuch
06:04 Ropuch            Morning #koha
05:24 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5868 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Subject indexes do not search most 6xx fields
05:24 jenkins_koha      * fridolyn.somers: BUG6067 When Add Duplicate changing framework would loose data
05:24 jenkins_koha      * jcamins: Bug 5868 follow-up: missing subfields in subject index
05:24 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #283: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/283/
04:55 rangi             hi francharb
04:55 francharb         hi everyone
04:42 jenkins_koha      Starting build 283 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
04:40 huginn`           New commit(s) kohagit: BUG6067 When Add Duplicate changing framework would loose data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c78a926046f93606681e64c332f374aa2bba603e> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_5868' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=700249eb3cbf765a5a731effd21ba543b74eb334> / Bug 5868 follow-up: missing subfields in subject index <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
04:00 rangi             guillaime said something about it renewing a patron? but im not sure how
04:00 rangi             cool thank you
04:00 hdl               ok thanks will test that soon
03:59 rangi             hdl: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new/awaiting_qa/bug_5436
03:42 rangi             you should only login as kohaadmin long enough to set up a real user
03:42 rangi             have you tried logging in as a real user
03:40 Irma              no sys preference for No_Library_Set
03:39 rangi             im not saying it doesnt happen, just its not known to happen ;)
03:38 Irma              ah ... checking this out ... 2 seconds pls
03:38 wahanui           a system preference is ReservesMaxPickUpDelay
03:38 Irma              a system preference?
03:37 Irma              ah ... thanks rangi
03:37 rangi             not that im aware of
03:36 Irma              what I pasted at 13:39:59 comes from a Koha 3.2. installation
03:35 Irma              Is that a known bug?
03:35 Irma              I don't see the (Set) in Kopha 3.4.
03:35 Irma              NO_LIBRARY_SET                              (Set)                      |                                                kohaadmin                          (Log Out) |                  [ ? ]
03:34 Irma              I have a quick question re Koha 3.4.
03:34 Irma              ;-)
03:34 Space_Librarian   Mind you, I'm used to Canberra's dry cold.
03:34 Space_Librarian   O.o Heavens, that *is* chilly for Sydney.
03:34 Irma              bring your wool jumpers
03:33 Irma              10 degrees in Sydney right now ... a bit chilly for us ...
03:33 rangi             ill reformat it for template toolkit and push it up for you, will take me about 20 mins, ill let you know when its ready
03:33 Space_Librarian   Indeed I am. :)
03:33 Irma              Looking forward to knitting a wrap for the world soon?
03:32 Space_Librarian   bonjour :)
03:32 Irma              bonjour space_librarian :-)
03:32 Space_Librarian   Hey Irma
03:31 rangi             2 secs
03:31 rangi             i can push it up on a branch if you like
03:31 Irma              Hi all
03:31 hdl               Is there a branch I could jump to ?
03:30 rangi             once its sorted i think we can sign off 5872 which would be great ;)
03:30 rangi             yep, guillaume seemed to find a problem with it
03:28 hdl               since we sent that.
03:28 hdl               Well I think I know yes...
03:26 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
03:26 rangi             hdl: if you are awake enough :) do you know much about bug 5436?
03:12 rangi             ahh we are only 10 hours in front at the moment
03:10 hdl               now it is 5
03:02 rangi             very early, its 4am?
03:02 rangi             ahhh
03:00 hdl               waking up early.
02:34 rangi             wow, working late hdl
02:33 wahanui           what's up, hdl
02:33 hdl               hi there
02:15 mtj               roger, will do
01:34 rangi             so we can get numbers for food
01:34 rangi             sweet, you should fill in the registration form
01:33 * mtj             looks at calendar
01:33 mtj               ah, yes - i planned too
01:26 rangi             speaking of which, you are coming right mtj? :)
01:26 rangi             shes coming to the koha users group meeting
01:25 rangi             ah yeah, i told them to give you a call
01:25 Space_Librarian   hey mtj
01:25 mtj               heya, spoke to theo-soc last nite...
01:25 druthb            hi, mtj!  :)
01:24 rangi             heya mtj
01:24 * mtj             waves
01:23 Space_Librarian   humility is a good thing. ;)
01:23 druthb            he is, Shelley.  He insists otherwise, of course.
01:22 Space_Librarian   hey Brendan
01:22 bg                heh heya Space_Librarian
01:21 Space_Librarian   druthb: sounds like an awesome boss.
01:21 rangi             wb druthb
01:21 druthb            Six months now; I can speak with Authority.
01:21 druthb            bg++ #BEST BOSS EVAR
01:20 druthb            hi, brendan.  :)
01:20 bg                hi ruth
01:20 druthb            o/
00:48 pianohacker1      wireless crapping out, logging out so as not spam the channel
00:46 rangi             *nod*
00:44 pianohacker       Piece by piece. I am getting paid for it, which makes wading through other people's code a bit more pleasant :)
00:43 rangi             pianohacker++ #another sign off
00:09 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5268 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Language Issue: Debarred
00:09 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6467 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Add shelving location to checkin results screen
00:09 jenkins_koha      * nengard: Bug 5268: Change all occurances of 'debar' to 'restrict'
00:09 jenkins_koha      * ruth: Bug 6467: Add shelving location to checkin screen
00:09 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #282: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/282/