Time  Nick              Message
23:59 magnuse           hiya pianohacker
23:56 pianohacker       hey guys
23:56 magnuse           thanks eythian
23:55 druthb            hi, pianohacker!
23:55 eythian           usually, yeah
23:55 magnuse           n00b question: where do the warns show up? in the apache error log?
23:53 rangi             ull track down whats happening pretty fast i bet
23:53 rangi             and themelanguage subs with warns
23:52 rangi             first thing id do is litter the new
23:52 conan             but if it where a cookie issue, then there would not be mixing, all english or all spanish
23:51 rangi             thats from the list of languages
23:51 conan             I'm seeing themelanguage obeys cookies
23:51 magnuse           s/!/"/
23:50 magnuse           not sure i like the ring of "searches through the themes and languages. First template it find it returns!
23:50 rangi             thats the only place that sets the $theme and $lang variables
23:50 conan             but, yes, there must be some path situation going a=round
23:50 rangi             im telling ay, its themelanguage
23:49 rangi             yep, i understand the problem
23:49 rangi             so that it thinks it doesnt exist
23:49 conan             rangi: we notice the thing when we modified the es-ES version and it didn't show up
23:49 rangi             so my guess is the path is set wrong
23:49 conan             rangi: nope, it exists
23:49 rangi             if it doesnt exist, it will fall back to en
23:49 conan             should look before writing
23:49 magnuse           probably not ;-)
23:49 conan             I'm an idiot
23:49 conan             magnuse: oh
23:49 conan             that's the one is not bringing from the es-ES subtree
23:48 conan             magnuse: found it: checkouts-table-footer.inc
23:45 magnuse           koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/checkouts-table-footer.inc ?
23:43 conan             but then we noticed it wasn't the only one, so I'm guessing all
23:43 conan             the footer one
23:43 magnuse           i was poking at themelanguage() the other day, but didn't get far enough to figure out if it was to blame for the things i have been seeing
23:43 conan             magnuse: was in the checkout page
23:42 conan             magnuse: erm... let me look
23:40 rangi             which is a short sub
23:40 rangi             so it will be very easy to track down, if its doing anything wrong it will be in themelanguage
23:40 rangi             the path is set in C4/Templates.pm
23:39 magnuse           do you remember?
23:39 magnuse           which include?
23:39 magnuse           ouch
23:38 conan             and even more wide when we tried the modification on the en include, and it showed up in the translated version
23:38 conan             magnuse: I haven't seen the thing in deep yet. I came out today during a meeeting with my boss, he tried to change some stuff, so I directed him to the templates and our eyes opened wide when we saw the change didn't show up
23:37 eythian           oh, they took it from linkedin, not the one that I sent them
23:36 conan             rangi: thanks. I'll look there. And yes, it's 3.4.x
23:36 eythian           except my blurb changes person half way through.
23:36 conan             sorry, nature call
23:36 eythian           yay famous!
23:32 Space_Librarian   bye Irma
23:31 Irma              Good day/evening all.
23:31 Irma              thanks for the quick hello ... must be on my way :-)
23:31 Irma              and that bringing together of the collection sector's various arms which is one of my interests
23:30 rangi             yep it should be a great conference
23:30 Irma              rangi I looked at Access 2011 and wish I could be there. Many great presentations!
23:29 magnuse           yay
23:29 Irma              There is strong vision and dedication to training and using OS well which is very exciting.
23:28 huginn`           magnuse: MOSC 2011 has neutral karma.
23:28 magnuse           @karma MOSC 2011
23:27 Irma              MOSC 2011 ++
23:26 rangi             malaysia its just starting to make a dent
23:26 Irma              there are big plans on the drawing board in Malaysia
23:26 rangi             are doing all publics
23:26 rangi             philipines
23:26 magnuse           you can do it!
23:25 Irma              thanks magnuse
23:25 Space_Librarian   And Malaysia was looking at implementing Koha in all their public libraries... wasn't it?
23:25 magnuse           Irma: i'm sure you can!
23:25 magnuse           was it malaysia that might get Koha in 10.000 school libraries?
23:25 Irma              It will be interesting. I hope we can make a difference...
23:24 magnuse           yay
23:22 rangi             http://blog.harisfazillah.info/2011/06/koha-oss-integrated-library-system.html <-- irma and eythian  you are famous
23:22 magnuse           kia ora mtj
23:19 mtj               morning all
23:18 * druthb          feels the love.
23:18 druthb            :D
23:18 Space_Librarian   Hi Ruth!
23:18 eythian           \m/
23:18 rangi             oh look its ruth
23:17 druthb            Hi, Magnus and Shelley.  :)
23:16 Space_Librarian   \o/
23:16 magnuse           \o
23:16 druthb            o/
23:13 Irma              :) all
23:13 eythian           hiya Irma
23:12 Space_Librarian   morning Irma
23:12 magnuse           kia ora Irma!
23:12 Irma              Good morning team :-)
23:12 * magnuse         seems to have a situation where the opac is displayed mostly in english if it has been a while since i visited, but in norwegian when i choose english then norwegian again - need more time to investigate...
23:11 rangi             C4/Output maybe
23:11 rangi             for 3.2.x you're on your own ;-)
23:10 rangi             so look at the themelanguage sub in C4/Templates.pm
23:10 rangi             my ( $theme, $lang ) = themelanguage( $htdocs, $tmplbase, $interface );
23:10 rangi             where
23:10 rangi             INCLUDE_PATH => "$htdocs/$theme/$lang/includes",
23:10 magnuse           conan: where are you seeing the problematic includes? does it happen all the time, or just sometimes?
23:10 rangi             look at C4/Templates.pm
23:09 rangi             if its master or 3.4.x
23:09 rangi             what version of koha conan
23:09 * conan           is going to read koha-tmpl/templates.readme
23:08 cait              hehe will do :)
23:08 magnuse           et least you won't have qwerty...
23:08 conan             cait: go to sleep :)
23:08 cait              or I will have qwertz on somewhere on my face tomorrow morning :)
23:08 magnuse           sounds like it shouldn't, but there are some strange things going on with different languages and templates etc
23:08 conan             I was asking now because I don't usually meet rangi in my working hours
23:07 conan             cait: go, there's no hurry
23:07 cait              but really have to sleep
23:07 cait              path not constructed correctly?
23:07 conan             so, why is koha using the includes from the 'en' directory instead?
23:07 conan             there are replicated includes there, translated includes
23:07 magnuse           rhcl : ok, it just struck me when i was reading back
23:06 rhcl              having said that, and looking at it again now, I see that maybe there is some new stuff, so tomorrow we'll take another look
23:06 cait              I think when you use the file paths you have to copy the file to all language folders to make it work correctly
23:06 conan             it creates directory es-ES and populates it
23:06 conan             the thing is, when I issue the translate blabla script
23:06 cait              I always use opacusercss and opacuserjs, never used the includes thing
23:06 conan             ok
23:06 conan             but...
23:06 cait              never used that
23:06 cait              those includes
23:06 cait              ah
23:06 conan             yes, and includes
23:06 conan             but I think that's for local changes
23:06 cait              css files?
23:05 conan             cait: found paths stuff under Staff Client preferences
23:04 cait              s
23:04 rhcl              magnuse: yes, we looked at sugarlabs, it seems to really be more for teaching children, rather than as a stand-alone children's computer
23:04 cait              conan: I think it's somethig from userenv perhaps? it should get the language path of the templates you are looking at, not in the sys pref
23:04 conan             cait: bye
23:04 conan             hum... there're only a couple of things under I18N/L10N preferences
23:04 eythian           byebye!
23:03 cait              good night all
23:03 cait              oh, I am falling asleep
23:03 rhcl_away         oh, I'm still here :(
23:01 huginn`           magnuse: The operation succeeded.
23:01 magnuse           @later tell rhcl do you know http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ? read about it in Linux Journal recently...
23:01 eythian           But it's not something I know a large amount about really.
23:00 eythian           I think it uses the syspref to work it out.
23:00 conan             so I guess that must be saved somewhere
23:00 conan             but there's no path definition in the templates
23:00 conan             today we found that even when es-ES was used, the include pulled was coming from the en directory
22:59 conan             no, as in templates
22:59 eythian           includes, as in Perl libraries?
22:58 conan             hi again all, quick question: how does koha know from where it must pull includes? I think I've found a bug today
22:58 magnuse           well, that's something
22:56 eythian           we do have Monday off for Queen's birthday though, I realised yesterday.
22:56 eythian           nah, we don't really do the ascension day thing here, alas.
22:56 magnuse           no holiday in nz?
22:55 magnuse           kia ora eythian
22:54 eythian           hello
22:54 cait              hi eythian :)
22:53 eythian           http://grooveshark.com/album/The+Indifference+Engine/5225045?src=5 <-- the album for today
22:52 magnuse           we're debriefing with G&T's ;-)
22:51 magnuse           pic from my mobile, not too good, will gete the ones from the real camera tomorrow: http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/5787744779/in/photostream (you had to have spacial glasses to see the actual eclipse))
22:51 cait              yeah, but I am getting tired
22:50 magnuse           at least we don't have to go to bed at a decent time ;-)
22:49 magnuse           might get some work done though
22:49 cait              here too :)
22:49 magnuse           cait: yup!
22:49 cait              magnuse: holiday tomorrow?
22:48 Space_Librarian   rhcl_away: thanks. I'll keep an eye out
22:48 magnuse           cait: hehe
22:47 rangi             nope havent heard back
22:47 cait              not fair!
22:47 cait              trying to get me on facebook?
22:47 cait              rangi: any news from the security thing?
22:47 magnuse           there's one of me on facebook... ;-)
22:47 cait              :)
22:47 magnuse           yup
22:46 cait              took photos?
22:22 rangi             http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3564  <-- thats the rest of my lotr photos
22:21 rangi             and rrd
22:20 rangi             that looks like cricket to me
22:20 rangi             ahh that was just the hostname
22:20 rangi             while sijobl made sure we only saturated most of nz's bandwidth
22:20 rhcl              palantir I see-that's what our ISP has installed for us to use.
22:19 rangi             i did manage to sneak outside for a bit, and take photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/15884341/in/photostream/
22:18 rangi             look at that traffic spike, as ppl started looking at the webcams for the lotr world premiere
22:18 rangi             http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/4274532363/in/photostream
22:18 rangi             2003
22:18 rangi             heh this is an old one
22:16 rangi             but still had the energy to annoy each other :)
22:16 rangi             (hence the drips)
22:16 rangi             got gastro enteritis
22:16 rangi             yeah that was when they were in Pittsburgh childrens hospital
22:15 rhcl              like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/4985102611/in/photostream/
22:15 rangi             http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5090739503/in/photostream/
22:13 rangi             he fit in cos he was wearing blue too ;)
22:12 rangi             thats atarau playing with the amish in PA
22:12 rangi             heh nope
22:12 rhcl              http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5094565476/in/photostream/    surely not NZ?
22:11 rhcl              yea, saw that collection of nettops and surge protectors :)
22:11 rangi             and that was the view from outside the building
22:10 rhcl              ic
22:10 rangi             http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5522964021/in/photostream <-- what i was doing
22:10 rangi             they filmed that in nz, use mt taranaki cos it looks like fuji
22:10 wahanui           I haven't seen 'that', rangi
22:10 rangi             seen that horrible movie the last samurai with tom cruise?
22:09 rangi             taranaki
22:09 rhcl              fuji? everest? mount kilimanjaro?  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5524306171/in/photostream/
22:08 rangi             :)
22:07 rhcl              amplifying graphics I see  :)  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5723296479/in/photostream/
22:06 rhcl              looking...
22:06 rangi             rhcl: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/5787631909/in/photostream
22:05 rhcl              Space_Librarian>: if ITAL makes the article available online it might appear here (in a month?) http://www.lita.org/ala/mgrps/divs/lita/ital/italinformation.cfm   (under #2 June)
21:55 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5918 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , When AddPatronLists is set to "general" and EnhancedMessagingPreferences is set, messaging prefs not copied from defaults
21:55 jenkins_koha      * Chris Cormack: Bug 5918 : Use the default messaging preferences if the user does not select any
21:55 jenkins_koha      * Chris Cormack: Fixing permissions, no need for this file to be executable
21:55 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5683 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, REOPENED , link_bibs_to_authorities.pl can corrupt records
21:55 jenkins_koha      * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5683 follow-up: calls to ModBiblio can still fail
21:55 jenkins_koha      * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add unit tests to ensure bug 5683 doesn't reappear
21:55 jenkins_koha      Project Koha_master build #272: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/272/
21:55 rhcl              I'll pass those on to aogle
21:54 rangi             kahurangi plays childsplay, pingus, gcompris, puzzle bobble, and writes emails
21:53 rangi             yep
21:53 rhcl              The world needs better FOSS children's games, however. A lot of what's available, including, for example, GCompris, are just not very polished and can be flakey.
21:51 rangi             cool
21:51 rhcl              looks like it might work.
21:51 rhcl              He's using a web server to serve the pages to clients and have all the local executables fire off from there....even wrote a py script to enable ssl...
21:51 * Space_Librarian shakes fist at kohacon's reviewer window's constant fatal error. Slef is going to get spammed at this rate.
21:50 rhcl              So now we're rolling our own. I have a very bright CS college student working for me that can do anything when his alarm clock works
21:49 rangi             I'm more worried about sw freedom than "how far a project can go". Free Software is a multi-generational marathon, not a sprint
21:49 rhcl              getting back to our children's computer project, we want a free, OS solution. We've looked at Kiddex (Linux but licensed) and Qimo, and been neutral on those, although we currently have several of both in the library
21:48 rangi             ohhh good quote from bradley kuhn
21:47 rhcl              yep
21:47 rangi             yup, the best that can happen is people use your data
21:47 rhcl              and for everything we want to do we want to encourage full, complete access to our holdings
21:47 rangi             *nod*
21:47 rhcl              but it've seen demo's of it, it looks pretty and has good features. But some of those features also make it hard for others (the public) to download the content outside Contentdm,
21:46 rangi             when you look at TCO, you should always count how much it costs to leave too
21:45 rangi             exactly
21:45 rhcl              thing about contentdm that would concern me is getting your content buried/locked in their proprietary database. I'm sure there must be system level ways of getting to it, but it's never been clear that you can or what they are.
21:43 rangi             yup, but in general too
21:43 rhcl              rangi: referring to contentdm?
21:42 rangi             for a cooperative oclc sure screw the hell out of their members
21:42 rhcl              danmc: were you asking about the article or about the children's computers?
21:41 rhcl              eventually outsourced that part, and they are doing well now.
21:41 rhcl              quick synopsis: they looked at several systems, couldn't afford ContentDM, settled on DSpace, had trouble installing it due to lack of IT expertise (Vendors Listening?),
21:39 rhcl              designed to "collect, preserve, share and promote the law school's digital materials"
21:38 Space_Librarian   great, thanks. Just wondering if it's embargoed on this side of the world for another month. I'll check ALIA's listings...
21:38 rhcl              The use was for digital items at a small Texas law school, "Texas Tech University School of Law"
21:37 rhcl              Well, it's in the June issue of  Information Technology and Libraries, a publication of ALA/LITA. Let me check and see if it's online @ lita.org
21:32 Space_Librarian   rhcl: where can I find a copy of this article?
21:27 * danmc           has kids and is also a computer geek
21:26 danmc             rhcl:  what is the target use and age range for that?
21:24 rhcl              My very talented except for base 60 assistant is creating they Best Children's Computing System Ever based on Ubuntu and Mint.
21:19 Space_Librarian   morning #koha
21:16 rhcl              short blurb on indexing and retrieval
21:16 huginn`           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5918 : Use the default messaging preferences if the user does not select any <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8ccb80bb11651d40fa07ed3fb084c112b55a6eb> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_5683' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbe37ed54f0129eeb8d72eee1328ab24797894ed> / Fixing permissions, no need for this file to be executable <http://git.koha
21:16 rhcl              very interesting article on "Institutional Repository" for law libraries in Information Technology and Libraries (current version). Discusses ContentDM, DSpace, Greenstone, et al
21:13 jenkins_koha      Starting build 272 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:09 NCARMichael       ciao
21:09 NCARMichael       it works! gracias.
21:09 sekjal            alright, time to get some rest.  until later, #koha!
21:05 NCARMichael       (testing...)
21:05 cait              :)
21:05 NCARMichael       ooh yeah!  "MARCorgCode"
21:05 cait              yay :)
21:05 sekjal            storm seems to have passed.
21:04 cait              search for marcorgcode
21:04 NCARMichael       Oh
21:04 cait              NCARMichael: you should check the system preferences, I think there is one adding a default value to all your 003 fields
21:03 NCARMichael       I see.  I had to click on Advanced Constraints.
21:03 cait              yeah
21:03 huginn`           cait: The MARC code for the organization whose control number is contained in field 001 (Control Number). []
21:03 cait              @marc 003
21:03 cait              marcorgcode or something?
21:03 cait              isn't there a syspref for that?
21:03 NCARMichael       oh wait
21:03 cait              hm wait
21:02 NCARMichael       So, I'm adding a new subfield for 003?
21:01 cait              wizzyrea++
20:59 cait              nengard++
20:59 rangi             manual++
20:56 bg                found here - http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/?ch=x4912#marcbibframeworks
20:56 bg                defines what you want to appear in the field by default, this will be editable, but it saves time if you use the same note over and over or the same value in a field often.
20:56 bg                Default value
20:54 NCARMichael       (investigating...)
20:54 bg                NCARMichael: there should be a field for entering in default info when you are editing the subfield in the marc-frameworks
20:51 NCARMichael       How do I set a default value in a particular MARC field? (I'd like the 003 field to always have CoBA in it)
20:51 NCARMichael       hi peeps. today's question is...
20:50 rhcl              OK, now it looks fine!
20:50 wizzyrea          (I just deleted the cache)
20:50 wizzyrea          you see the cached version :P
20:50 cait              you are cheating :)
20:50 cait              now it's ok
20:49 rhcl              hehe
20:49 cait              sorry liz
20:49 wizzyrea          no you don't
20:49 cait              me too
20:49 rhcl              yes, well, I still see "<p class="p1">T"
20:49 wizzyrea          ;)
20:48 wizzyrea          that stuff was fixed like ages ago
20:48 * cait            offers liz a cookie
20:48 * wizzyrea        yawns
20:48 rhcl              so I thought...maybe correct that too wizzyrea?
20:48 cait              I hate it
20:48 cait              no, that was probably auto correct in outlook
20:47 rhcl              cait, do you normally capitalize Katrin as part of your email address?
20:46 rhcl              oh, yea, you're right, I see the html too
20:46 cait              p.p1 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 10.0px Helvetica} <p class="p1">
20:46 cait              like visible html :)
20:45 cait              there is html in it
20:45 rhcl              yep, is good
20:44 wizzyrea          there it shouuld be there now
20:43 wizzyrea          stupid connections starts them as unlisted
20:43 wizzyrea          der, lol, sec
20:43 rhcl              strange I don't see cait listed anywhere, dumped the browser cache even....
20:43 cait              hm, germany shows up empty for me
20:41 wizzyrea          *wink* you got it. :)
20:41 cait              yay :) thx liz!
20:38 rangi             yay!
20:38 wizzyrea          cait: http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/country/#ger
20:37 huginn`           sekjal: The current temperature in Montague Center Weatherbot, Montague, Massachusetts is 22.3�C (4:34 PM EDT on June 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.45 in 997.2 hPa (Rising).  Tornado Watch 411 in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... 
20:37 sekjal            @wunder 01373
20:37 sekjal            for me, yes.  for Springfield, not so much
20:37 wizzyrea          not for the people to the south :P
20:36 rangi             is that good?
20:36 sekjal            storm seems to be moving south
20:35 cait              :)
20:34 wizzyrea          :) yep
20:34 cait              :)
20:34 cait              Germany?
20:34 wizzyrea          I don't mind though
20:33 wizzyrea          bother I ahve to add a new category for cait's listing ^.^
20:28 Brooke            0/
20:28 cait              have fun :)
20:28 rangi             no worries, but yeah if you get results with the and, then the query is on the right track ;)
20:28 magnuse           cait++
20:28 magnuse           sorry guys
20:28 magnuse           but next time is in 87 years or something... ;-)
20:28 magnuse           yeah, too bad
20:28 magnuse           yeah, i get results without the AND
20:28 cait              :)
20:28 cait              oh, now that it gets exciting
20:27 magnuse           oh well, i'll have to look more at that tomorrow, i'm gonna have to go outside and look for the midnight sun eclipse now!
20:27 rangi             and see if you get any results that way (maybe limit 10 just in case)
20:27 rangi             try it without AND borrower_message_preferences.borrowernumber = 51;
20:26 rangi             magnuse
20:26 cait              ah
20:26 magnuse           not related to any concrete "action"
20:26 magnuse           it's just asking for what types of messages to send
20:25 rangi             yeah
20:25 magnuse           hm, running the query should not rely on anything else, i think
20:25 rangi             it should show in that query pretty much instantenous
20:25 cait              and have you waited a little bit?
20:25 magnuse           no, empty set when i run it in mysql
20:24 magnuse           well, it's certainly an angle worth pursuing!
20:24 cait              does it work in mysql?
20:24 cait              hm
20:24 magnuse           but when i put WHERE  message_attributes.message_name = 'Item_Check_in' in the query i still get 0 results
20:24 cait              hm
20:24 rangi             nope
20:24 wahanui           rumour has it today is Black Friday
20:24 rangi             today?
20:23 cait              habe you talked to druthb?
20:23 rangi             so others dont reply and give wild goose chase answers ;-)
20:23 rangi             now you just have to reply to the email
20:23 cait              :)
20:23 rangi             ohh good spotting
20:22 magnuse           yes, in message_attributes it says Item_Check_in - obiously not a match!
20:21 cait              WHERE  message_attributes.message_name = 'Item Check-in' this here has changed
20:20 cait              supposed to have an underscore now I think
20:20 cait              the message_name thing was changed for 3.4 because of template toolkit
20:19 magnuse           which variables?
20:19 cait              magnuse: could the mail problem you see be related to us renaming the variables?
20:17 Brooke            I surely would agree with Cait's sound logic.
20:17 Brooke            druthb++
20:16 * oleonard        is off
20:15 wizzyrea          she has, I know it to be true
20:15 rhcl              rhcl wonders if druthb has ever installed Koha in a VBox VM on a netbook?
20:13 cait              she knows why
20:13 cait              druthb++
20:13 cait              hm thx
20:13 rangi             coffee time brb
20:13 rangi             yep
20:13 magnuse           nah, more like sin-sight
20:13 cait              the mail?
20:12 ibeardslee        sinsight? is that like a curved vision?
20:12 rangi             kf++
20:11 magnuse           some real sinsight from wahanui there...
20:11 * oleonard        wonders who told wahanui that
20:11 rangi             thanks wahanui
20:11 rangi             heh
20:10 rangi             situations escalate less
20:10 wahanui           i think wot is d diff btw Staff client interface and OPAC
20:10 ibeardslee        wot?!?
20:10 rangi             and talking to ppl like they are humans
20:10 sekjal            thunder's getting intense
20:09 rangi             they have reinstated foot patrols
20:09 rangi             san fran seem to be doing some stuff right too
20:09 Brooke            kia ora
20:09 ibeardslee        hmmmmm
20:09 rangi             :)
20:09 magnuse           you probably have police on snowscooters in some places...
20:08 magnuse           surprise!
20:08 rangi             lots more snow also hehe
20:08 magnuse           yeah, i think they do get some things right
20:07 rangi             for better results
20:07 * wizzyrea        is not at all surprised by that
20:07 rangi             less yelling and macho bullcrap than perth too
20:07 rangi             yeah same as here
20:06 magnuse           no guns?
20:06 magnuse           heh
20:05 rangi             I like norwegian policing
20:05 rangi             (well it was 12, the next 12 is next week)
20:05 rangi             auckland, perth, oslo, and san francisco
20:05 rangi             in 4 cities
20:05 rangi             they followed police for 24hr on the same day
20:05 rangi             magnuse: there was a tv show last night
20:04 wizzyrea          wow that storm is just not going away
20:01 rangi             hehe
20:01 liw               rangi's my best marketer :)
20:00 rangi             check it out sometime :)
20:00 rangi             obnam skushner
20:00 sekjal            wow, my cats are pissed! (put them in their carriers)
20:00 skushner          data not backed up to the cloud yet...
19:59 skushner          Man..just got our VM and San, but not installed yet...hope nothing happens here, or anywhere! Jersey Shore = New Yorkers..
19:59 wizzyrea          dirty, but better than dying :P
19:59 wizzyrea          is what I usually hear
19:58 wizzyrea          get in the ditch face down with your head covered
19:58 rangi             just drive faster looks like the real advice
19:58 wizzyrea          oh sheesh, no kidding.
19:58 rangi             oh I was reading about the underpass thing and tornadoes
19:57 wizzyrea          I'm not *really* trying to argue with you ^.^
19:57 wizzyrea          hehe danmc
19:56 rangi             but it only does it once
19:56 danmc             and the whole "take refuge in a hot air balloon" approach works better with earthquakes ;)
19:56 wizzyrea          that
19:56 wizzyrea          ^^
19:56 oleonard          http://i.imgur.com/smF2z.jpg
19:56 wizzyrea          yea that's bad
19:56 rangi             when the whole wall flexes and snaps back it essentially fires glass at you
19:55 wizzyrea          right, but it's not necessarily whirling in the air at 200mph
19:55 rangi             shit flies
19:55 oleonard          http://i.imgur.com/HTHoC.jpg
19:55 rangi             when windows shatter
19:55 sekjal            going to log off briefly, pack up the cats, move to the center of the house, and then log back in
19:55 rangi             nope
19:54 wizzyrea          only falling stuff like that in earthquakes :)
19:54 wizzyrea          except for the part where there is whirling splinters and glass
19:53 sekjal            danmc: amherst
19:53 danmc             for that matter when I lived in the city, we rarely had thunderstorms
19:53 sekjal            wizzyrea:  01373
19:53 danmc             tornados in boston are indeed unusual.
19:53 danmc             sekjal:  umass boston?  or amherst?
19:53 rangi             ie get away from outside walls/windows
19:52 rangi             I figure tornado drill is much the same as earthquake
19:52 wizzyrea          http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=enx&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=no
19:52 wizzyrea          argle bargle!
19:51 magnuse           01373 maybe?
19:51 wizzyrea          (for the wx site)
19:51 wizzyrea          what's your zip, sekjal?
19:49 wizzyrea          !!
19:49 sekjal            though my wife is reporting alarms on UMass campus
19:49 sekjal            pretty sure no sirens
19:49 sekjal            ... I really don't know.  Just moved up here
19:49 wizzyrea          tv/radio
19:49 wizzyrea          or do they depend on the TV EAS activation?
19:48 wizzyrea          do you have sirens?
19:48 sekjal            I'm thinking perhaps I should switch to the laptop, in case I lose power
19:48 wizzyrea          i will get quite worried if sekjal goes offline all of a sudden O.O
19:47 wizzyrea          (because we have spotters)
19:47 nengard           I'm inside with the air on and a fan blowing on me
19:47 nengard           yuh huh
19:47 magnuse           wow, that's hot!
19:47 wizzyrea          I like that -- our weather reports never ask for people to report tornadoes
19:47 nengard           bleh
19:47 sekjal            it did get awfully dark and rainy all of a sudden
19:47 huginn`           nengard: The current temperature in Maple Point, Langhorne, Pennsylvania is 33.6�C (3:50 PM EDT on June 01, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Steady).  Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... 
19:47 nengard           @wunder 19030
19:46 huginn`           rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 27.4�C (2:50 PM CDT on June 01, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1023.9 hPa (Falling).
19:46 rhcl              @wunder 64505
19:46 wizzyrea          do not like!
19:46 huginn`           sekjal: The current temperature in Plain Road East, South Deerfield, Massachusetts is 30.2�C (3:05 PM EDT on June 01, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Falling).  Tornado Watch 411 in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... 
19:46 rhcl              Tetanus
19:46 sekjal            @wunder 01373
19:46 wizzyrea          !!!!
19:46 sekjal            http://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=usa&wwa=Tornado%20Warning
19:46 wizzyrea          hrmph
19:45 rhcl              :)
19:45 rhcl              gee, give him a break...gonna quiz him about food and water and his tetnas shot?
19:45 wizzyrea          !!!
19:45 sekjal            no, facing a couple windows at the moment
19:45 wizzyrea          good. Middle of the house?
19:45 sekjal            well, lower floor
19:45 sekjal            wizzyrea:  I am (that's where my office is)
19:45 * wizzyrea        gives sekjal the stern, kansan, eye
19:44 wizzyrea          if it's a warning why aren't you in the basement?
19:44 wizzyrea          warning or watch!
19:44 sekjal            skushner:  tornado warning here in MA, too
19:43 nengard           got away as soon as I could
19:43 nengard           sorry - lived there way way too long
19:43 nengard           while that's all wrong ... it's not that much better :)
19:41 rangi             skushner: you know whats sad, the only thing young people here know about nj is jersey shore
19:30 skushner          Yes, it is
19:29 rhcl              Oh, that's north of Florida
19:29 skushner          New Jersey
19:29 rhcl              Where approximately are you on the east coast? Tornados aren't that unusual for Florida.
19:27 skushner          Don't know...weird.
19:26 wizzyrea          I just saw that! wtf!
19:26 skushner          Geez, Tornado watch in this area...and we're on the east coast!
19:20 magnuse           yup
19:20 wizzyrea          !!! awesome
19:18 * magnuse         will see an eclipse of the midnight sun in a couple hours, if the clouds collaborate http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/31may_midnightsun/
19:17 magnuse           g'evening #koha
19:11 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0�C (9:00 PM CEST on June 01, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
19:11 cait              @wunder Konstanz
19:05 huginn`           bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 20.1�C (12:09 PM PDT on June 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady).
19:05 bg                @wunder 93109
18:51 huginn`           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6444] Encoding problems with vendor names in subscription-add.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6444>
18:42 wizzyrea          nom!
18:41 tcohen            you r all invited, asado at home
18:41 jwagner           Let's all go to Argentina....
18:40 huginn`           tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 16.0�C (3:00 PM ART on June 01, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
18:40 tcohen            @wunder cordoba, argentina
18:37 jwagner           That's not much comfort.  I have trouble breathing when the air quality is this bad -- working from home & not going out....
18:37 huginn`           wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 27.8�C (1:41 PM CDT on June 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Falling).
18:37 wizzyrea          @wunder lawrence ks
18:36 oleonard          At least your weather makes mine look good
18:36 huginn`           oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 30.0�C (2:35 PM EDT on June 01, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
18:36 oleonard          @wunder 45701
18:36 huginn`           jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 35.4�C (2:39 PM EDT on June 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Falling).  Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... 
18:36 jwagner           @wunder 20740
18:35 jwagner           oleonard, I _wish_ it was Friday!
18:35 oleonard          Is it Friday and no one told me? This place feels like a Friday today...
18:02 hdl               bye there
16:59 clrh              bybye koha
16:12 wizzyrea          (either way)
16:09 wizzyrea          patch doesn't apply for me either
16:06 * wizzyrea        will try it out
16:02 hdl               Nope. I had something quite similar for one of our libraries... Would be glad it finally comes in for 3.6. But have little time to test that.
16:01 oleonard          Did you test that one hdl?
15:55 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6190 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Custom field removal from patron entry screens
15:55 hdl               bug 6190
15:55 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=619 normal, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, Visiting selectbranchprinter.pl automatically resets branch
15:55 hdl               bug 619
15:34 wizzyrea          oleonard: lol
15:14 reiveune          bye
14:13 wizzyrea          the tables haven't changed afaik
14:12 bigbrovar         wizzyrea: in koha 3.2 to delete all records I deleted entries in the following tables  delete from biblioitems, items and biblio. those this still apply in koha 3.4?
14:02 bigbrovar         conan: yeah its one of those moment u go back and hit urself in the head "damn I should have setup the matching rules "
14:02 bigbrovar         wizzyrea:  nope not really, just need to know if emptying the biblio db is same process as it was in 3.2 in which case I usually just delete biblio  from mysql
14:02 kf                :)
14:02 conan             bigbrovar: good luck, be sure to set up right your matching rules before, so you don't get into the same situation
14:02 oleonard          kf: No luck applying the patch directly. But I'm glad to know I should try.
14:02 wizzyrea          bigbrovar: are you losing a lot of work if you start over?
14:02 bigbrovar         wizzyrea: the more reason why I should just start from scratch, I still have the .mrc files of all the enteries with me, so hopefully all should be fine :)
13:56 wizzyrea          so it's not easy for anybody.
13:56 wizzyrea          :P
13:56 wizzyrea          it's all they do, and they are highly paid for it
13:56 wizzyrea          there are entire companies devoted to deduping bibliographic databases
13:54 bigbrovar         It would have been more ideal if there was a tool which can check records and bring up dups without having to mess with db. am not a db guy u see :/ just the very basic to get by
13:54 oleonard          Thanks kf I'll try again.
13:53 bigbrovar         conan: u are very right, just that am still new to koha have learnt quite a lot but this is not a full time job  just something I do in my free time. still alot to learn. starting over would be easier for me. though I wish there was a way to do this cleaning
13:53 kf                oleonard: sometimes git bz apply didn't work forme but git am -is3 worked perfectly fine - I see your comment on 6190
13:52 conan             look for the dups and look into the data to find something that lead you to differentiate them
13:52 conan             start working with biblioitems
13:51 conan             there's no assurance that you wont get dups again
13:51 conan             bigbrovar: try to massage your data a little bit, give yourself an hour to look into the problem
13:51 conan             bigbrovar: but I guess starting over should not be a good decision, at least not right now
13:50 conan             bigbrovar: I can't give you a made up SQL sentence since I haven't been in this situation before, I'm pretty new here
13:47 bigbrovar         guess its just easier to delete everything and start all over. delete all records and start from scratch
13:46 wizzyrea          library_systems_guy++ oleonard++
13:46 conan             I guess you'll have to check a couple of dups to know at which level you have dups
13:46 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6437 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Div tag needed in advsearch
13:46 oleonard          library_systems_guy: I signed off on your patch for Bug 6437.
13:46 conan             bigbrovar: well you have items information saved in items table, then you have biblio and biblioitems which also record bibliographic information
13:43 bigbrovar         yeah I do via phpmyadmin
13:43 conan             I'd do it at DB level
13:42 conan             bigbrovar: about finding dups, have you access to DB?
13:42 conan             bigbrovar: you can put different weight to your rules
13:41 conan             hilongo: hello karma claimer :P
13:41 hilongo           Hello #koha  :)
13:40 bigbrovar         conan: the matching rule by default uses isbn and issn which is fine, I might have to add more though. mainwhile whats the best way to find dublicates. without having to empty the biblo records and starting from scratch
13:37 bigbrovar         conan: nno let me check that out. (still getting a grip of koha :) )
13:36 conan             bigbrovar: did you set up matching rules in  Home › Administration › Record Matching Rules  ??
13:36 bigbrovar         am on 3.4 btw
13:36 bigbrovar         basically 50% of the items I imported were already in records :/
13:36 magnuse           does anyone have check in/check out emails working in 3.4? i don't, and i can't for the life of me see what's wrong...
13:35 nengard           if it's duplicate bibs i think i have a report for that on the wiki
13:35 bigbrovar         conan: when I search opac I see dulicate entries show up even though
13:34 conan             bigbrovar: I believe koha finds those duplicates and don't insert them... but I'm not sure, are you getting duplicated biblio data in DB?
13:34 bigbrovar         now I to figure a way to hunt down this duplicated enteries and delete them or even if I have to delete all items and start from sratch
13:33 bigbrovar         Hi guys, is there a way to search for and delete duplicate entries in koha?  I got a spreadsheet from our librarian which I converted to marc file and imported to koha. however (despite my warning) some of the files in the spreadsheet she gave me were duplicates of entries already in koha.
13:32 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6442 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , opacnav pref explained wrong
13:32 nengard           the patch for bug 6442 is a tini tiny one if anyone wants to get sign off credit :)
13:17 huginn`           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6442] opacnav pref explained wrong <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6442>
13:17 vfernandes        jwagner thanks
12:25 conan             you know... I probably set that a couple of days ago... I guess it takes time to get to know by heart all the stuff
12:24 conan             thanks
12:24 conan             oleonard++
12:22 oleonard          "Enrollment period" is the label in English
12:21 oleonard          conan: It is under Administration -> Patron types and categories
12:19 conan             I don't see it on Administration>Patrons, nor looking for 'renewal'
12:18 conan             where does koha store the patron renewal  period?
12:18 conan             I'll start the morning firing up a question
12:18 conan             hello everyone
12:00 jwagner           vfernandes, see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hard_Coded_Values
11:55 vfernandes        F => Fine?
11:53 vfernandes        guys what means 'L', 'F' and 'FU' in the accountline table?
11:53 alex_a            kf_mtg: no pbm
11:52 kf_mtg            have a meeting now, thx for the help, will be back later :)
11:52 vfernandes        hi ppl :)
11:51 kf                so perhaps say it can be done
11:51 kf                ah ok
11:51 alex_a            it needs a lot of bugfix
11:51 alex_a            kf: sopac is not out of the box
11:49 kf                I know there is BRAC using vufind and was looking for a sopac example
11:49 kf                so I was looking for koha and alternative discovery interfaces
11:48 kf                I am giving a presentation about koha in a session where vufind will be a big topic
11:48 kf                thx again :)
11:47 alex_a            but theming is not finished
11:47 alex_a            kf: yes, a french library: http://drupal.romorantin.fr/
11:46 kf                I hoped perhaps a library would be using it
11:46 kf                alex_a, clrh: thx
11:45 alex_a            kf: sopac.biblibre.com is a demo of sopac using ilsdi connector for koha
11:44 kf                koha + sopac
11:43 hdl               kf: look at darienlibrary. It uses sopac
11:43 alex_a            kf: http://sopac.biblibre.com/
11:43 kf                alex_a: I was searching for a sopac example
11:43 hdl               kf : yes it is used in production
11:41 alex_a            kf: yes ?
11:41 kf                alex_a: around?
11:40 kf                ah, so it's not used in production?
11:40 clrh              maybe a demo site somewhere ;)
11:40 clrh              ask alex_a
11:40 clrh              kf  yes
11:35 kf                slef :)
11:35 kf                not much success so far
11:35 kf                searched the web
11:29 slef              kf: searched biblibre?
11:08 kf                judging from the sopac website and forums the project seems not very active
11:02 kf                does someone have a link to a koha+sopac opac?
11:02 kf                hm, picking the collective #koha brain
10:34 kf                I have a request
10:33 wahanui           que tal, clrh
10:33 clrh              Bonjour
10:30 NurAhammad        how are you?
10:30 NurAhammad        hi everyone
10:26 druthb            :)
10:25 kf                :)
10:25 kf                hi druthb
10:21 * druthb          waves to kmkale.
10:18 kmkale            hi druthb :)
10:13 druthb            hi, rangi.  :)
10:11 rangi             hi druthb
10:09 druthb            \o
10:02 magnuse           to be continued - after lunch...
09:54 magnuse           all boxes are green under Item Circulation Alerts
09:53 magnuse           EnhancedMessagingPreferences = Allow
09:52 magnuse           nothing is selected for the patron category, but it is selected for the specific user
09:51 magnuse           it's been et least 10 minutes now, and still nothing in message_queue
09:50 magnuse           before putting it in message_queue?
09:50 kf                it waits a little while until it generates the message
09:49 kf                how long have you waited?
09:49 kf                enhmessaging preference, patron record and or patron category
09:49 magnuse           it worked in 3.2.6...
09:49 kf                and have you notices defined for it?
09:49 kf                ?
09:49 kf                magnuse: where did you enable it
09:19 magnuse           s/3.4.2/3.4.1/
09:19 magnuse           hm, in 3.4.2 i have email enabled for item checkout, but no message is put in the message_queue table when i do a checkout?
08:59 slef              ok, I'm running patches2bugs again
08:59 mib_3pfr02        ok thanks alot <slef>
08:56 slef              but I'm no cataloguer
08:56 slef              http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/relacode.html
08:56 slef              with code in $4
08:55 slef              yeah pretty sure you want name in 700$a and the relationship in 700$e
08:51 wahanui           i already had it that way, huginn`.
08:51 huginn`           kf: An added entry in which the entry element is a personal name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8]
08:51 kf                @marc 700
08:51 huginn`           kf: A personal name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,j,k,l,n,p,q,t,u,4,6,8]
08:51 kf                @marc 100
08:51 magnuse           http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd700.html
08:51 magnuse           http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd100.html
08:51 kf                yeah
08:51 kf                marc21 / cataloging is a bit complicated
08:51 magnuse           but field 100 and 700 are probably the ones to look at?
08:51 kf                the fields can be different for every book or media you want to catalog
08:50 kf                ther eis no easy answer
08:50 mib_3pfr02        can anyone help me to find  the answer?
08:46 mib_3pfr02        hi #koha
08:43 magnuse           <mib_3pfr02> in koha marc record entry form which field is using to enter the editors,compilers and translators ?
08:41 slef              my scrollback didn't go far enough to see the questions
08:34 kf                ah, now he is gone
08:26 mib_3pfr02        for entering author name I used tag100 (Main entry  Personal Name)
08:25 rangi             what he said :)
08:25 magnuse           i guess the short answer is, it's not done differently in koha than in marc21... ;-)
08:25 rangi             otherwise http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/
08:25 rangi             unless someone knows the answer off the top of their head
08:24 rangi             you probably need to find a cataloguer to ask
08:24 mib_3pfr02        marc21
08:24 rangi             (not really a koha question, more a MARC/Cataloguing question)
08:23 rangi             marc21, unimarc or normarc mib_3pfr02 ?
08:21 mib_3pfr02        in koha marc record entry form which field is using to enter the editors,compilers and translators ?
08:17 mib_3pfr02        hi #koha
08:05 kf                magnuse: hmpf!
08:00 magnuse           ooh, now we're talking ;-)
08:00 liw               definitely
08:00 rangi             keysigning lunches are more fun :)
07:59 liw               yay for gpg and keysigning (not a big fan of keysigning parties, but they're bad or anything)
07:59 rangi             you can encrypt a mail to me, that only I can decrypt
07:59 rangi             which=with
07:59 rangi             which my public key (available all over the place)
07:59 rangi             but equally as useful
07:58 magnuse           cool
07:57 rangi             which means thats you can verify it came from me
07:57 rangi             i sign my mails
07:57 rangi             you'll notice that when i send things as the rm
07:57 rangi             when liw was in nz, he signed my (and others keys)
07:57 magnuse           don't say that, you'll tempt kf even more ;-)
07:56 rangi             im going to try to do one at ALA
07:56 rangi             magnuse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_signing_party
07:54 rangi             im guessing xss
07:54 rangi             medium
07:54 magnuse           too bad we forgot about the key signing thingy durig kohacon10... (not that i know what that really means or anything... ;-)
07:53 rangi             http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Gpg_keys
07:50 paul_p            rangi, nope. I was investigating recently, but could not finish ...
07:49 kf                http://en.securitylab.ru/lab/ there is a koha entry
07:48 rangi             paul_p: do you have a gpg key?
07:48 rangi             thanks paul_p
07:47 kf                I wonder why they were looking?
07:46 paul_p            rangi, I wrote a mail to say you're the man to contact too ;-)
07:46 rangi             its most likely something like that
07:46 magnuse           we do have a couple of open xss bugs...
07:45 rangi             and i quite like the fact security firms are looking
07:45 magnuse           true dat
07:45 rangi             the only bad bugs are the ones not known about :)
07:45 rangi             well nothing is bad once its found
07:44 kf                hope it's nothing really bad
07:44 kf                ok
07:43 rangi             ive asked them to send me encrypted mail
07:43 wahanui           interesting is good
07:43 kf                interesting
07:43 kf                security lab
07:43 magnuse           s/amil/a mail/
07:42 magnuse           kf: there's amil on the list
07:42 rangi             yep
07:42 kf                new sec bug?
07:41 kf                oh
07:40 magnuse           rangi++
07:40 rangi             i have emailed Yury and asked him to send me a gpg encrypted email outlining the vulnerability they have discovered
07:40 kf                hi magnuse
07:39 magnuse           hi kf
07:38 kf                hi #koha
06:49 julian            hello #koha
06:34 kmkale            hey in case anyone of you needs invitation letters to attend Kohacon for Visa etc please let me know.
06:31 wahanui           hey, reiveune
06:31 reiveune          hello
06:30 magnuse           o/
06:30 Oak               \o
06:29 kmkale            Namaste magnuse :)
06:29 cait              magnuse even
06:29 cait              hi magnue
06:28 magnuse           bonjour Ropuch, cait, alex_a, Amit_Gupta, kmkale & #koha
06:19 alex_a            hi Amit_Gupta, cait
06:17 * cait            waves
06:17 kmkale            hi cait
06:17 kmkale            Hi Amit_Gupta
06:17 Amit_Gupta        heya alex_a, cait
06:16 alex_a            bonjour #koha
06:09 cait              hi Ropuch
06:08 Ropuch            Morning #koha!
06:03 huginn`           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6437] Div tag needed in advsearch <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6437>
05:57 wahanui           hmmm... git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
05:57 magnuse           git-bz?
05:57 magnuse           git bz?
05:57 magnuse           git bz
05:52 kmkale            bbl
05:35 huginn`           cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.7�C (7:35 AM CEST on June 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady).
05:35 cait              @wunder Konstanz
05:22 cait              67 :)
05:09 huginn`           New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6190] Custom field removal from patron entry screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6190>
05:03 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6090 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , empty mails in message_queue are sent
05:03 cait              I wonder abut bug 6090
05:02 cait              that one was easy
05:01 rangi             yay!
05:00 cait              :)
05:00 rangi             nope everything it depends on is resolved
04:59 cait              any reason to not close that one?
04:59 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5580 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , BibLibre acq improvements for 3.4
04:59 cait              hm bug 5580
04:59 cait              hm back to 69
04:57 cait              Space_Librarian: :)
04:57 Brooke            no more than 3 turns!
04:56 Space_Librarian   I will let you in on the secret, yes. If I figure it out in time.
04:54 kmkale_           :)
04:54 cait              if you do, can you share?
04:53 * Space_Librarian needs to figure out how to be in 2 places at once tomorrow...
04:43 kmkale_           Also we need a heds up about whos staying behind for the Hackfest after the con
04:42 kmkale_           Nothing much Abstracts need to be reviewed and we need sponsors still only the one sponsor :(
04:41 Brooke            send me the minutes of the stuff you want to say
04:41 kmkale_           I will try but may not make it
04:41 kmkale_           I may not be able to attend tomorrows Volunteers meeting. May be at the doctors at that time. Can someone hold forte?
04:40 * Brooke          would be non neutrally all for that.
04:40 Brooke            :D
04:40 kmkale_           Also Jo has submitted one. So if she is attending may be we can ask her for the keynote?
04:40 kmkale_           Hi Shelly saw your paper abstract :)
04:38 Space_Librarian   namaste kmkale. Oh no! :(
04:36 rangi             stink one
04:35 cait              :(
04:35 bg                :(
04:35 kmkale            back from a holiday but brought viral fever with me :(
04:34 cait              yay !
04:34 kmkale            Namaste Brooke
04:33 kmkale            Namaskar #koha
04:33 Brooke            namaste
04:33 rangi             http://www.3news.co.nz/Airport-caves-in-to-anti-Wellywood-pressure/tabid/423/articleID/213505/Default.aspx
04:33 rangi             yay!!!!
04:30 cait              yeah
04:29 eythian           that's pretty strange really
04:28 cait              I just can't make it work the way it work for you :(
04:27 cait              eythian: i have no more ideas about that bug - asked magnuse to test it, not sure when he will find time
04:27 cait              yeah, it is.
04:26 eythian           (6:30 I mean)
04:26 eythian           yes, the middle of the night.
04:26 Space_Librarian   yes it was
04:26 cait              last time we had this conversation it was before 5 I think
04:25 cait              it's 6:30
04:25 wahanui           work is progressing nicely
04:25 cait              um work?
04:25 * Space_Librarian is trying to remember the last time we had this conversation....
04:25 Space_Librarian   to catch a train?
04:24 eythian           why do you get up in the middle of the night?
04:24 cait              would love to do that, but it's my normal wake up time
04:23 cait              heeh
04:23 rangi             go back to sleep
04:23 rangi             hi cait
04:22 cait              :)
04:22 cait              hi Brooke and Space_Librarian
04:22 Space_Librarian   morning cait
04:22 Brooke            tag
04:20 Space_Librarian   \0
04:19 Brooke            0/
04:07 * Brooke          hands rangi a flat white.
04:07 rangi             ahua pai, engari kei te ngenge au
04:05 Brooke            I pēhea tō rā?
04:03 Brooke            0/
04:03 rangi             hi Brooke
04:02 Brooke            kia ora
03:30 Amit_Gupta        Good morning koha ;)
03:30 rangi             hi Amit_Gupta
03:30 Amit_Gupta        heya all
03:30 Amit_Gupta        heya chris
03:29 rangi             hi hdl
03:28 hdl               hi
02:07 bg                heh desperation
02:07 bg                hi
02:02 sekjal            when you have to fall back on title/callnumber as a unique identifier for a biblio, you know you're desperate
01:07 eythian           hmm. You'll have to find someone who knows more about notices than I do I'm afraid.
01:04 glernil           i think so.. it can send notice with complete info when a patron only checked-out 1 item.. if more than one the notice being sent is blank.. no list of checked out item
01:01 eythian           do you have the notice set up?
00:59 glernil           i'm using the debian "koha-common" package
00:58 glernil           blank notices are being sent to the patron who checked-out more than one item.. any work around?
00:09 rangi             thanks, looks good to me
00:09 pianohacker       and that's enough for the day, bye all
00:08 pianohacker       rangi: signed off, attached, emailed, let me know if everything's kosher
00:01 ibeardslee        :(
00:01 rangi             yeah
00:01 ibeardslee        so much lost, so much gone
00:01 ibeardslee        part Blackfoot
00:00 ibeardslee        I often wonder about my background from my Dad's Mother's side
00:00 ibeardslee        whenever I have to push myself hard I have that at the top of my list