Time  Nick                  Message
23:59 ibeardslee            oh yeah
23:59 rangi                 yeah, it is a good day to die is a powerful one
23:59 ibeardslee            lifts the heart
23:59 ibeardslee            it brings shivers down my spine
23:59 rangi                 :)
23:58 rangi                 i have the cd in my desk drawer
23:58 ibeardslee            rangi: I have the album on my PC if you want to listen to the whole thing
23:58 rangi                 http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Words+Of+Fire+Deeds+Of+Blood/1TY8tt?src=5
23:58 rangi                 you win
23:57 rangi                 words of fire, deeds of blood
23:57 ibeardslee            Words of Fire Deeds of BlooD
23:57 druthb                ...but they chain the right to tote a gun to Repblican far-right conservatism, religion, and acute racism, waaaaay too much, when it comes to the local folx.
23:57 rangi                 racing ya
23:56 ibeardslee            firing up Banshee
23:56 druthb                I wouldn't mind the NRA quite so much, truly I wouldn't, if they did what they say on paper that they do.l
23:56 * ibeardslee          tries to remember the song
23:56 rangi                 the entire speech in fact
23:56 rangi                 he did
23:56 ibeardslee            Robbie Robertson put that in one of his songs
23:55 druthb                :)
23:55 rangi                 which is arguably the first american freedom :)
23:55 rangi                 I claim a right to live on my land and accord you the privilege to return to yours.
23:54 rangi                 that brooke would know im sure
23:54 rangi                 theres a great quote from Chief Joseph, of the Nez Perce
23:51 * druthb              is bemused; she got a membership invite from the National Rifle Association--apparently, one of their magazines you can choose from is "America's 1st Freedom."  Funny; I thought the First Amendment came first, not the Second....
23:46 pianohacker           rangi: yes, actually, saw wizzy talk about a while back. Hadn't seen that page, though, thanks
23:45 ibeardslee            mmmm .. is the Mongolian BBQ still going in Wellington?
23:44 druthb                yes.  Her friends and I took her to get Mongolian barbecue after; she loves that.
23:44 Space_Librarian       :) She had a good day? Tearful but good?
23:44 rangi                 cool
23:43 druthb                Thanx for your tweet; Lindsey enjoyed getting messages from all over the world.  :)  you n Space_Librarian on one side, and cait on the other.
23:43 druthb                hi, rangi!
23:43 rangi                 heya druthb
23:42 rangi                 http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
23:42 rangi                 to make doing that easier?
23:42 rangi                 have you seen git-bz ?
23:42 pianohacker           aight
23:42 rangi                 yus please
23:41 pianohacker           rangi: push signed-off patch to bugzilla?
23:36 pianohacker           heh, no kidding. Never understood why it set off fire alarms; tabs/spaces mixing can be problematic, but not trailing spaces
23:33 rangi                 (trailing spaces bother me less than they bother git :))
23:33 pianohacker           okay, cool
23:33 rangi                 but the functionality is the most important thing
23:33 rangi                 you can be picky about the whitespace if you like :) normally i just fix it
23:32 pianohacker           rangi: testing 5918 for signoff, introduces whitespace errors. I'm testing the actual functionality, which looks kosher. Just not sure how picky I'm expected to be
23:32 rangi                 yep
23:32 pianohacker           rangi: around?
22:40 cait                  good night
22:36 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5918] When AddPatronLists is set to "general" and EnhancedMessagingPreferences is set, messaging prefs not copied from defaults <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5918>
22:17 ibeardslee            wizzyrea: last I heard was that the LibreOffice folk were quite happy forked.
22:16 Brooke                You Might Be Lookin' at Redneck Territory when Google doesn't have Street View info, or even Street Info.
22:13 Brooke                hey nate
21:50 Brooke                could be wizzy
21:49 wizzyrea              maybe it'll unfork with LO
21:49 wizzyrea              oracle has abandoned it, libre office is wildly successful, now apache's gonna give it a home?
21:49 wizzyrea              lol wow, wtf is going on with open office? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/what-the-heck-is-happening-with-openoffice-update/9025
21:47 rangi                 id look at xapian
21:45 rangi                 http://mako.cc/writing/hill-when_free_software_isnt_better.html
21:45 rangi                 i can give you a free software answer
21:45 Brooke                for what I'm yappin' about.
21:45 Brooke                http://www.allegrotechindexing.com/indexingtools.pdf
21:44 Brooke                I'd love a nice botbi tool like Cindex but open source.
21:44 Brooke                anyone know if anyone else ever took Fred Brown's proper indexing suggestions to heart?
21:43 Brooke                I've a question for the Library Open Source collective brain
21:42 Brooke                :)
21:42 rangi                 hiya Brooke
21:39 Brooke                kia ora
21:17 rangi                 right
21:14 cait                  but I added my comment on the bug :( probably not much more I can do. Someone else testing would be good
21:13 cait                  probably going to miss him again :)
21:13 cait                  ok
21:12 rangi                 not for another hour or so cait
21:09 cait                  eythian: around?
21:05 pianohacker           Heh, yeah. You can bike 10 miles of flat land as easy as walking 1 mile, but riding up a hill seems the exact opposite
21:02 Space_Librarian       lol. yeah. My parents live on a deceptive steep hill. I find walking it less evil than riding, so more power to you. ;)
21:01 pianohacker           Space_Librarian: Downside of living next to these beautiful foothills :P
21:01 Space_Librarian       z1 = !
21:00 Space_Librarian       hooray for queenie indeedz1
21:00 ibeardslee            Yay for Queenie
20:59 rangi                 yeah next weekend
20:58 Space_Librarian       cycling up hills? ouch. O.o
20:58 Space_Librarian       hi pianohacker
20:58 pianohacker           hi spacelib
20:57 Space_Librarian       we have one coming up, don't we, rangi?
20:56 pianohacker           lovely long weekend. Did you have any sort of holiday?
20:55 pianohacker           pretty good, actually
20:54 rangi                 not too bad, hows things with you?
20:54 pianohacker           how's it going, rangi?
20:54 rangi                 hi pianohacker
20:54 rangi                 hehe
20:53 pianohacker           also, hi
20:53 pianohacker           The last hill riding home from work is trying to kill me, I tell you
20:29 slef                  hmm
20:28 wizzyrea              it wouldn't work for me without it
20:28 slef                  this is probably a silly question, but why does http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration say to install python-httplib2? git-bz doesn't use it AFAICS
20:22 wizzyrea              wb
20:22 huginn`               bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 20.2�C (1:26 PM PDT on May 31, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady).
20:22 bg                    @wunder 93109
20:22 cait                  hi bg :)
20:22 bg                    hey cait :)
20:22 * cait                waves
20:21 rangi                 back
20:10 rangi                 bbiab
20:10 rangi                 my stop
20:09 tcohen                byeeee
20:00 * liw                 waves
19:57 library_systems_guy   thanks wizzyrea
19:57 wizzyrea              hi liw
19:57 wizzyrea              looks ok to me
19:57 rangi                 heya liw
19:56 library_systems_guy   i added the last bit...
19:55 library_systems_guy   the See changes 'origin' Git repo from your branch section
19:55 library_systems_guy   http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
19:55 library_systems_guy   I made a change to the wiki...can somebody do a sanity check?
19:49 cait                  ata marie rangi
19:48 * library_systems_guy would greatly appreciate that
19:48 library_systems_guy   nice slef
19:47 slef                  so if someone gets your .git/config, you need to change your password but they don't actually know what it was, so they're limited to whatever git-bz can do
19:47 rhcl                  rangi
19:47 rangi                 morning
19:47 slef                  I'm thinking something like git config bz.username whatever ; git config bz.passcode whatever ; and then when you run git bz it replaces passcode with a login cookie
19:45 library_systems_guy   w00t slef
19:45 slef                  bbl dinner
19:44 slef                  and in other news, it's crazy simple to get a bugzilla login cookie in python, so that's coming to git-bz when I get a round tuit
19:39 slef                  tcohen: cool!
19:38 tcohen                already sent an email to koha-devel so others check it
19:37 tcohen                slef: i linked in the blog a modified version that adds $@ to the warn
19:32 cait                  oleonard: correct, you will need -a
19:32 cait                  that one could get difficult to undo
19:31 wizzyrea              buy them a coke I guess
19:31 oleonard              bulkmarcimport.pl does authorities too, correct?
19:31 wizzyrea              well yea, that's partly why I was confusticated ^.^
19:31 cait                  how do you undo the coke thing?
19:31 cait                  so I missed part of it
19:31 cait                  ah
19:31 wizzyrea              whoever gets it out first + the rule, the other person is jinxed and can't talk
19:30 oleonard              Is the procedure for importing authority records in the manual?
19:30 wizzyrea              no you do
19:30 wizzyrea              triple padlock means you have to say their name 3 times
19:30 cait                  so you never say jinx actually?
19:30 cait                  ok
19:30 wizzyrea              so two people saying the same thinga t the same time, and if one person says "triple padlock" or "pinch poke owe me a coke" or summat before the other one does, the other person is jinxed until the conditions of the rule are met
19:29 wizzyrea              right
19:29 cait                  wizzyrea: the jinx game?
19:28 slef                  larryb helipad
19:27 nengard               woo hoo
19:27 nengard               SELECT b.title, i.itemcallnumber, i.barcode FROM items i left join issues using (itemnumber) left join biblio b using (biblionumber) WHERE i.itemnumber NOT IN (SELECT issues.itemnumber FROM issues) AND i.itemnumber NOT IN (SELECT old_issues.itemnumber FROM old_issues)
19:27 nengard               larryb helped
19:27 cait                  ok
19:26 nengard               the one on the wiki does work ... sorry
19:26 nengard               items that have never circulated
19:26 nengard               cait yes,
19:25 nengard               and the one on the wiki doesn't work either ... fyi
19:25 cait                  so we want itemnumbers that are not in issues and oldissues right?
19:25 cait                  hmhmhm
19:24 cait                  let me look
19:24 nengard               trying to simplify it
19:24 wizzyrea              ooo
19:24 nengard               yes, but it's insanely complicated
19:23 wizzyrea              nengard: isn't there one in the library for that?
19:23 nengard               this gets no results ... what am i missing
19:23 nengard               SELECT b.title, i.itemcallnumber, i.barcode FROM issues left join items i using (itemnumber) left join biblio b using (biblionumber) WHERE i.itemnumber NOT IN (SELECT issues.itemnumber FROM issues) AND i.itemnumber NOT IN (SELECT old_issues.itemnumber FROM old_issues)
19:23 nengard               k - i'm missing something tini tiny here - i want a report of items that haven't circulated - i know there is a canned report but it doesn't let you download it - so I need to write on
19:23 wizzyrea              there's a kids game
19:23 wizzyrea              lol
19:23 cait                  ok, and now you have to explain that jinx thing to me again
19:23 wizzyrea              though she didn't say "triple padlock" so...
19:23 * library_systems_guy will accept any rules that allow me to talk again :D
19:22 * wizzyrea            didn't know which rules we were playing under :P
19:22 library_systems_guy   im saved
19:22 library_systems_guy   YAYY
19:22 wizzyrea              maybe?
19:22 wizzyrea              library_systems_guy library_systems_guy library_systems_guy
19:22 wizzyrea              uh...
19:22 cait                  wizzyrea: help!
19:22 cait                  how do you unjinx?
19:21 cait                  didn't know that
19:21 cait                  I am sorry
19:21 cait                  oh
19:21 * library_systems_guy can't talk unless somebody unjinxes me
19:21 library_systems_guy   dang it...
19:21 cait                  jinx?
19:21 cait                  is there a message in the error log?
19:21 library_systems_guy   what does the log say?
19:21 cait                  no idea
19:21 library_systems_guy   database insert error?
19:20 rhcl                  what might cause an error 500 - internal server error, when saving a new patron record?
19:07 slef                  damn it, 140 lines of git-bz getting login cookies from browsers... it must be simpler to get it from python unless httplib2 is really awful
19:04 tcohen                alright
19:00 cait                  slef++ :)
19:00 slef                  tcohen: looks fine to me. Only thing I might change is to include $@ in the Error creating MARCXML... warn.
18:56 slef                  oleonard: git-buzzed, being attacked by low-flying version control
18:56 cait                  hehe
18:55 * oleonard            wonders, git-bz = get busy?
18:55 slef                  but first, I read tcohen's pastebin
18:55 wahanui               git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
18:55 slef                  git-bz?
18:55 slef                  the git-bz wiki page?
18:49 library_systems_guy   if it wasn't  for that id have it working
18:49 library_systems_guy   lol that stupid cookie thing
18:49 cait                  it's what we did before git-bz came along :)
18:48 library_systems_guy   i gave up on submitting with BZ and just added the formatted patch as an attachment...hope that works
18:28 tcohen                in the spanish version y posted a link to the .pl file
18:27 tcohen                http://blogs.unc.edu.ar/koha/lang/es/2011/05/31/migracion-a-3-4-surgen-problemas-con-registrosmigration-to-3-4-record-problems-arise/
18:26 wizzyrea              bbiab
18:26 slef                  should be easy enough to log into BZ and save the cookie from curl or wget
18:26 slef                  odd
18:23 library_systems_guy   right right
18:22 wizzyrea              you only have to do it once, just enough to get you logged into bz
18:22 tcohen                otherwise it will reuse the gecko engine running in your local desktop
18:22 wizzyrea              yes, thanks, I forgot that bit
18:22 wizzyrea              oh right!
18:22 tcohen                if you want to actually run in the remote machine you should add the -no-remote parameter to firefox command
18:20 library_systems_guy   so i think i can make it happen
18:20 wizzyrea              windows... I have no clue
18:20 library_systems_guy   well i have an ubuntu box
18:20 wizzyrea              probably if you are working from linux too
18:20 wizzyrea              then ran firefox from the command line. That of course requires you to an x server on your local machine. easy if you have a mac with the dev tools :P
18:19 wizzyrea              then ssh -x user@host
18:19 wizzyrea              what I did, was install firefox from packages
18:19 library_systems_guy   :'(
18:19 library_systems_guy   i only have shell access
18:19 library_systems_guy   ahh ok...i wonder if i can just copy the cookie from my machine to the dev box...i seriously doubt it
18:18 wizzyrea              work again.
18:18 wizzyrea              the git-bz wiki page says: Optionally, if you plan on sending bugs to bugzilla from git, you'll need to have Chrome or Firefox installed on your dev machine, and have logged into bugzilla at least once from that machine. Git-bz uses Firefox's cookie to authenticate you to bugzilla, so remember to save at least that one cookie. Should you clear out your cookies on that machine, you will need to log into bugzilla again from that machine to ge
18:18 tcohen                but at least it will tell which records would fail for koha
18:17 tcohen                it could be improved of course to tell MARC is valid or not
18:17 tcohen                http://paste.koha-community.org/70
18:17 library_systems_guy   it lets me commit now but something about cookies and a browser
18:16 slef                  tcohen: sounds reasonable
18:16 tcohen                and print the biblionumbers that fail
18:16 library_systems_guy   but i was trying to do it with bz
18:16 tcohen                basically I put as_usmarc and as_xml_record in a try-catch block
18:16 library_systems_guy   oleonard, no no, i was just trying to add a commit message
18:16 slef                  tcohen: I'm busy for an hour at least but PM me a link and I'll look?
18:16 cait                  tcohen: I agree with slef :) tcohen++
18:16 wizzyrea              aha
18:16 tcohen                encoding problems
18:16 wizzyrea              (curious)
18:16 tcohen                (don't want to be embarrased)
18:16 wizzyrea              what would cause them to fail?
18:15 tcohen                before posting in public
18:15 slef                  tcohen: hero!
18:15 slef                  there's probably a way to manage more files but I don't do much editing in emacs
18:15 tcohen                i'd like someone to take a look at it
18:15 tcohen                remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl
18:15 tcohen                i've pasted a script that helps in the task of upgrading to 3.4, by telling which biblionumbers would fail
18:15 oleonard              library_systems_guy: Is the problem that git is invoking the wrong editor?
18:15 slef                  library_systems_guy: if you're only changing one file, C-x v v will commit it
18:14 * wizzyrea            falls down dizzily
18:14 slef                  library_systems_guy: emacs invoking the shell invoking emacs...
18:14 * slef                goes to bludgeon the bank website into submission to pay some bills
18:14 cait                  I also do git add and git commit without file path - if someone is still interested :)
18:14 library_systems_guy   lol
18:14 library_systems_guy   so you are running emacs inside of emacs
18:14 cait                  lol
18:14 slef                  library_systems_guy: oh and C-x # to finish with an emacsclient buffer I think
18:13 wizzyrea              lol
18:13 library_systems_guy   umm i see what you did there slef
18:13 wahanui               slef: sorry...
18:13 slef                  wahanui: botsex!
18:13 wizzyrea              slef++ for the funny of the day
18:13 wizzyrea              ROFL
18:13 slef                  I so nearly typed botsex
18:13 wahanui               :)
18:13 slef                  wahanui: botsnack!
18:13 wahanui               rumour has it tmtowtdi is there's more than one way to do it
18:13 slef                  tmtowtdi?
18:12 slef                  yeah tmtowtdi and the wiki often doesn't mention that because only one person wrote it ;)
18:12 wizzyrea              tmtowtdi is there's more than one way to do it
18:12 library_systems_guy   o_0
18:12 wizzyrea              there we go
18:12 wizzyrea              tmtowtdi
18:12 wizzyrea              tmtwwtdi
18:12 slef                  anyway library_systems_guy you OK for a mo now?
18:12 library_systems_guy   cursed wiki documentation leading me astray
18:12 wizzyrea              I do it the way it says to on the wiki
18:12 library_systems_guy   oh
18:11 slef                  I use git add and git rm, so don't need to mention files on the commit
18:11 wizzyrea              it's not mandatory, you can do -a and get all files you've changed
18:11 wizzyrea              is what I was talking about
18:11 wizzyrea              ^^
18:11 library_systems_guy   i think the path to file is for the file you want to commit
18:11 wizzyrea              ok
18:10 slef                  no it isn't wizzyrea I just read the man page
18:10 library_systems_guy   oh?
18:10 wizzyrea              wait what?
18:10 wizzyrea              yea
18:10 slef                  is that the commit message?
18:10 slef                  I never put a file on the commit command line :-S
18:10 wizzyrea              *shrug*
18:10 wizzyrea              right, I leave off the -m
18:09 library_systems_guy   wizzyrea, that is what i was doing...so mine looks like git commit /path/to/file -m "some info about the bug"
18:09 slef                  library_systems_guy: M-x start-server, then export EDITOR=emacsclient in your emacs shell window
18:08 nengard               i do the same as cait
18:08 slef                  reading scrollback
18:08 wizzyrea              AHA, this is against the editor bias :)
18:08 slef                  it's not required but avoids the editor being fired up
18:08 library_systems_guy   slef halp
18:08 wizzyrea              git commit /path/to/the/file
18:08 wizzyrea              right
18:08 * library_systems_guy is so confused
18:08 slef                  I use -m
18:08 library_systems_guy   so i don't need the -m but i can just type a message after the commit?
18:07 * wizzyrea            too
18:07 wizzyrea              i'm sure there are people who do, but not me >.>
18:07 * oleonard            likes having more than one line
18:07 library_systems_guy   my SVN background has failed me
18:06 library_systems_guy   oh so nobody uses -m?
18:06 wizzyrea              ^^ is the way I do it
18:06 cait                  not sure about -m :)
18:06 cait                  the first line will be the mail subject and you can write a commit message below that
18:06 cait                  I normally do it when I commit it, or you can do git commit --amend
18:05 library_systems_guy   sorry cait
18:05 library_systems_guy   message**
18:05 cait                  ah
18:05 library_systems_guy   the -m bit
18:05 cait                  commit string?
18:05 library_systems_guy   im using the emacs shell buffer...if that helps lol
18:05 library_systems_guy   so its not just one giant line when i throw in my testing message
18:04 library_systems_guy   how do i insert returns into the commit string
18:04 * library_systems_guy throws random commit question
18:04 * nengard             ducks
18:04 nengard               huh what??
18:04 library_systems_guy   i just saw nengard get on and she is the patch queen lol
18:03 wizzyrea              I'm sorry I don't have an answer for that particular question, maybe someone else can hop in
18:03 library_systems_guy   lol umm well i use emacs...guess im stuck lol
18:03 wizzyrea              [off] I use nano as my editor >.> they tease me, hence the off.
18:02 library_systems_guy   wizzyrea, for returns in the commit string is it just \n
18:01 pastebot              "tcohen" at 200.16.16.13 pasted "script for checking records" (86 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/70
18:01 library_systems_guy   i can do that i think :-/
18:00 wizzyrea              you'll still have to poke bugzilla and change it to 'patch sent' and 'awaiting signoff'
18:00 library_systems_guy   cool...i think i like that better
17:59 wizzyrea              right
17:59 library_systems_guy   but with bz i shouldn't have to do a format correct?
17:59 library_systems_guy   yeah im feeling the same way lol
17:59 wizzyrea              AGES.
17:59 wizzyrea              library_systems_guy: it took me ages to learn this stuff.
17:59 wizzyrea              amend with one m even.
17:58 wizzyrea              should let you ammend the last commit. you'll also need to re-do your format-patch origin stuffs
17:58 library_systems_guy   wizzyrea++
17:58 library_systems_guy   aww thanks wizzyrea you are the best
17:58 wizzyrea              ;)
17:58 wizzyrea              git commit --amend
17:58 library_systems_guy   lol...iv'e just got to figure out how to edit my commit to have the bug number in it
17:57 wizzyrea              it'll be fabulous, I'm sure :)
17:57 library_systems_guy   ok ill see what i can whip up :)
17:57 wizzyrea              well and even pretty trivial stuff
17:57 library_systems_guy   but yeah i can definitely understand having some good testing procedures around non-trivial stuff :)
17:56 wizzyrea              thing*
17:56 wizzyrea              you don't have to say much about that sort of thign
17:56 wizzyrea              but you're right
17:56 wizzyrea              right, to test that you pretty much say "with this patch applied a new div id will be around X element" or somesuch
17:55 library_systems_guy   ok cool...maybe not so much on the testing end if i am just added a div id?
17:55 wizzyrea              and a quick idea of how someone who has never looked at it before could test it
17:55 wizzyrea              so a quick summary of what it's supposed to do
17:54 wizzyrea              a test plan is nice
17:54 wizzyrea              then on the next few lines
17:54 library_systems_guy   ahh ok i can do that...seems logical
17:54 wizzyrea              on the first line
17:54 wizzyrea              Bug xxxx - what this bug is about
17:54 wizzyrea              is
17:54 wizzyrea              and this is just me
17:54 wizzyrea              usually what I do
17:54 library_systems_guy   so do i just reference the bug number in the comments when i do a commit?
17:50 huginn`               wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #139 added.
17:50 wizzyrea              @quote add library_systems_guy: I guess I could put (git-bz) in /usr/games because Koha + git = fun times
17:50 Soupermanito          XD
17:50 library_systems_guy   xchat hates /me
17:50 wizzyrea              lol
17:50 library_systems_guy   wizzyrea i guess i could put it in /usr/games because Koha + git = fun times
17:50 Soupermanito          not really, its just your name
17:49 library_systems_guy   and that is broken?
17:49 Soupermanito          library_systems_guy, i use xchat whit auto indent nicks
17:49 wizzyrea              would get it for this session
17:49 wizzyrea              something like export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin
17:48 library_systems_guy   boo lol
17:48 wizzyrea              yep
17:48 library_systems_guy   so i need to export it
17:47 library_systems_guy   ohhh
17:47 Soupermanito          :D
17:47 wizzyrea              :D
17:47 wizzyrea              Soupermanito: Yay!!
17:47 wizzyrea              you need to make sure your symlink to git-bz is in your path
17:47 Soupermanito          heya wizzyrea :D i figured uot what was the problem the other day, it turns out i hadn't created the MySQL database, thats why the password was wrong for it
17:47 library_systems_guy   o_0
17:47 wizzyrea              yes
17:47 wizzyrea              AH
17:47 library_systems_guy   hmm...i get an error that says bz is not a git command
17:46 wizzyrea              no, that ought to do it
17:46 library_systems_guy   what client are you using
17:46 Soupermanito          :P but it messes up whit my irc client XD
17:46 library_systems_guy   wizzyrea, was there something else i was supposed to do for git-bz other than whats on the wiki?
17:46 library_systems_guy   indeed it is Soupermanito...but that is what autocomplete is for lol
17:45 Soupermanito          library_systems_guy, your nick is really long
17:37 library_systems_guy   exactly
17:37 wizzyrea              don't, git is wonderful and evil, all at once.
17:37 * library_systems_guy feels silly
17:37 library_systems_guy   yeah thats what i was reading lol
17:37 wizzyrea              :)
17:37 wizzyrea              aha
17:37 library_systems_guy   boo
17:37 wizzyrea              have you seen that?
17:37 library_systems_guy   i didn't scroll far enough on the wiki
17:37 wahanui               i guess version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
17:37 wizzyrea              version control using git?
17:37 library_systems_guy   ohhh
17:37 wizzyrea              aha
17:37 library_systems_guy   oh no i just ran a git commit file
17:36 wizzyrea              and you don't see the file?
17:36 wizzyrea              or you did that
17:36 wizzyrea              and issue a git format-patch origin
17:36 wizzyrea              get in a safe directory, i use ~/kohaclone/patches
17:35 * library_systems_guy just wants to add a div id
17:35 library_systems_guy   and now i don't see the file in that directory :'(
17:35 library_systems_guy   so i did a git commit file
17:35 library_systems_guy   hmm ok
17:33 cait1                 :)
17:33 adnc                  cait1, huhu
17:33 cait1                 hi adnc
17:32 library_systems_guy   lol thanks conan
17:32 library_systems_guy   oh yeah just sending it to koha-patches
17:32 conan                 later
17:32 conan                 and after saying that, I have to run :P
17:31 conan                 library_systems_guy: but you could do it manually too
17:27 adnc                  hello koha
17:22 wizzyrea              nah not really
17:21 library_systems_guy   ohh...well that makes sense then...complicated?
17:21 wizzyrea              :) it's new
17:20 library_systems_guy   doh...thanks wizzyrea
17:20 wahanui               git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
17:20 wizzyrea              git-bz?
17:20 wizzyrea              git bz?
17:17 library_systems_guy   is it possible for me to attach a patch as an attachment in the bug report...im not sure if email is working on my dev server...
17:15 wizzyrea              oof
17:12 huginn`               oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 32.0�C (12:55 PM EDT on May 31, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
17:12 oleonard              @wunder 45701
17:12 * oleonard            is sorry he stepped outside
17:02 rhcl                  one of those things from my distant past that never made it to the status of a post-nominal
17:02 rhcl                  but that was Shakespeare, Lady MacBeth, in response to Slef's comment above
16:59 rhcl                  [off] in the past it would be the other way around
16:58 oleonard              rhcl: If your wife is encouraging you to murder your superior, just say no.
16:53 cait1                 ie--
16:53 cait1                 ?
16:52 rhcl                  naught's had, all's spent, where our desire is got, without content
16:43 * slef                goes for a coffee break :)
16:36 cait1                 but cooked vegetables as salad replacement
16:36 cait1                 no salad
16:36 slef                  heh, your cafeteria doesn't follow the government advice then?
16:35 cait1                 not so tasty
16:35 cait1                 yeah, we got vegetable salad in the cafeteria today
16:35 cait1                 hi slef :)
16:35 slef                  scary salads in Germany
16:35 slef                  evening cait1
16:06 slef                  naughty even
16:06 slef                  naught rhcl, pinging hdl off
15:22 rhcl                  ping?
15:11 oleonard              hdl++
15:11 oleonard              Thanks hdl
15:07 kf                    rain!
15:01 * oleonard            suspects this copy of "ASDJKGFAKSEHFK" in our catalog may not be legit
15:00 wizzyrea              gotcha, thx
15:00 hdl                   wizzyrea: aye... you should use zebraidx init in that case.
15:00 hdl                   zebraidx commit ... commits the modification (in case you use a shadow cache in database.
15:00 wizzyrea              is that akin to deleting existing db and making a completely fresh db?
14:59 hdl                   zebraidx init ... reinit the zebra  database for authorities.
14:59 hdl                   oleonard: sure.
14:58 reiveune              bye
14:41 oleonard              Can you explain what those commands did?
14:41 oleonard              Thanks hdl, that seems to have worked.
14:40 hdl                   conan: this was in oleonard's case
14:39 conan                 now I can't go anywhere
14:39 conan                 anyway, my test install seems to have died
14:39 hdl                   and sometimes, when one record breaks the indexation, zebraidx is not raising any error... and Koha would not manage that.
14:39 conan                 hdl: not my case, I had 2 authorities
14:38 hdl                   conan: doing a rebuild_zebra -r won't reset the index... Because when it exports nothing, it doesnot perform the init on the database.
14:38 hdl                   conan: for instance, if you donot have any authorities in your database.
14:37 hdl                   conan: it appears that rebuild_zebra sometimes is not enough.
14:36 conan                 or that's for oleonard case?
14:36 conan                 hdl: do we have to reindex? isn't rebuild_zebra enough?
14:35 conan                 got my zebra working and got that
14:35 hdl                   tehn reindex
14:35 hdl                   oleonard: zebraidx -c path/to/zebra-authorities.cfg -d authorities commit
14:35 hdl                   oleonard: zebraidx -c path/to/zebra-authorities.cfg -d authorities init
14:35 oleonard              No, that's a new one to me
14:35 conan                 Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/C4/Context.pm line 680
14:35 conan                 oleonard: is this your error?
14:28 oleonard              It doesn't seem to have had any effect. The same results are appearing.
14:27 hdl                   -a only won't reset the index database.
14:26 hdl                   -a only won't reset the idex database.
14:26 hdl                   -a yes
14:26 hdl                   -r to clean it up
14:26 oleonard              rebuild_zebra.pl with "-a" to clean up my authorities index?
14:25 hdl                   oleonard: this is a work in progress...
14:25 oleonard              Are you going to say, "Koha really should be able to display a human-friendly error in situations like this!" ?
14:24 hdl                   should I say it ?
14:24 hdl                   *nod...
14:23 oleonard              hdl: That must be it. The authority is showing up in searches but seems to no longer exist.
14:22 hdl                   seems $record should be tested.
14:21 hdl                   oleonard: do you have an authid ? and an authority already created in your catalogue for that ?
14:18 conan                 oleonard: can't reproduce, my zebra isn't working
14:16 oleonard              blinddetail-biblio-search.pl: Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80.
14:14 hdl                   Can you give me the line # referred to in your apache logs ?
14:14 hdl                   The MARC::Record seems not created or it has an empty field.
14:13 hdl                   (work in progress...)
14:13 hdl                   One of our devs developped C4::Logguer in order to have a really unified Logguing system
14:13 oleonard              "Can't call method "field" on an undefined value."
14:13 hdl                   oleonard: ?
14:13 hdl                   which is it ?
14:12 library_systems_guy   hdl++
14:12 oleonard              hdl: MARC21. When I try to choose an personal name authority record to populate 100a I get an error
14:12 wizzyrea              git fetch is <reply>
14:12 hdl                   library_systems_guy: np
14:12 wahanui               hdl: I forgot git fetch
14:12 hdl                   wahanui: forget git fetch
14:12 library_systems_guy   ok awesome, thanks hdl
14:12 hdl                   git stash pop
14:11 hdl                   git rebase origin/branch
14:11 wahanui               git fetch is, like, timing out
14:11 hdl                   git fetch
14:11 library_systems_guy   ah cool
14:11 hdl                   git stash list
14:11 library_systems_guy   then git fetch
14:11 hdl                   git stash apply
14:11 hdl                   git stash save
14:11 hdl                   oleonard: which is the MARCflavour you have and what is the bug ?
14:10 library_systems_guy   no it was like git stash maybe?
14:10 hdl                   git commit --amend ?
14:10 library_systems_guy   hey hdl, what was that command for updating with changes?  I am going to try and add that to the git section of the wiki
14:09 hdl                   library_systems_guy: yep
14:09 library_systems_guy   hey is hdl around?
14:03 oleonard              You have to have an authority record in order to test
14:03 conan                 oleonard: wait, do I have to have an authority record defined? or not to fire the bug?
14:02 conan                 oleonard: let me try it
14:00 conan                 magnus_away: that file is useful only if you already made an installation, what I want is to define defaults for test installations and don't be bother with questions
14:00 oleonard              conan: I clicked the link to open the authority search form; Searched for an author; Clicked 'choose' for the author I wanted
13:59 oleonard              conan: I opened a blank MARC entry form with a framework which links 100a to an authority record
13:59 conan                 magnuse: it seems I'll have to reinvent the wheel anyway :(
13:58 conan                 oleonard: tell me how to reproduce and I'll try
13:56 oleonard              That Koha can't gracefully handle errors like that frustrates me.
13:41 oleonard              Can anyone reproduce this error? Or is it a problem with my records?
13:40 oleonard              I got it today when trying to populate 100a with an authority record
13:40 oleonard              The dreaded "Can't call method "field" on an undefined value." Seems like we're getting this a lot lately.
13:33 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6436] Don't allow deletion of an itemtype used in items.itype <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6436>
13:29 magnuse               cool!
13:29 conan                 magnuse: found it, thank, you saved me a lot of typing (I was about to reinvent the wheel)
13:29 magnuse               if you have dev install it's in koha-dev/misc/koha-install-log
13:28 conan                 ah...
13:28 magnuse               what you see is a kind of template
13:27 magnuse               not loking at the right file, then
13:27 conan                 LOG_DIR=__LOG_DIR__
13:27 conan                 magnuse: yes, I'm looking at it right now, it says for every var:
13:26 conan                 if(defined($ENV{'SOMEVAR'})) { # use that value if allowed }
13:26 magnuse               the file is created when you have run through perl Makefile.PL
13:26 conan                 I was thinking about modifing Makefile.PL like this for every variable:
13:25 conan                 I don't know what's taht
13:25 conan                 SOMEVAR=__SOMEVAR__
13:25 conan                 it just have lines like:
13:25 conan                 magnuse: I saw that, but I don't understood it
13:24 conan                 you go over every configuration question every time, pressing enter?
13:24 magnuse               conan: i think you could use a fake koha-install-log, same as when you upgrade
13:24 conan                 but I decided to ask first, how do you do?
13:24 conan                 I was about to modify 'sub get_configuration' to read from environment if appropriate values set
13:23 conan                 I was wondering if is there a way to tell the installer about some defaults and it doesn't ask anything
13:23 conan                 I get tired of going over the questions everytime I need to test a new install (for a branch, a bug, etc)
12:21 magnuse               thanks nengard, i'll bug wizzy when i see her
12:20 nengard               magnuse sorry, missed your question, it's not a post, it's in a directory and i think wizzyrea knows the specifics
12:15 magnuse               hola conan and oleonard
12:15 oleonard              Hi #koha
12:15 conan                 hello everyone
11:56 magnuse               nengard: i need to edit my entry on the paid support page - how do i find it? is it a post?
11:45 nengard               morning
11:45 nengard               monring
11:45 magnuse               hiya nengard
11:37 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6433 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , rebuild_zebra.pl does not handle MARC::Record exceptions gracefully
11:37 huginn`               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Refactor rebuild_zebra.pl into a library
11:37 magnuse               hm i wonder if the work on bug 5166 crashes with the patch for bug 6433?
11:29 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6434] Many changes for Ukrainian and Russian sql-tables <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6434>
11:23 rangi                 soon
11:22 kf                    rangi: sleep?
11:11 rangi                 i guess we'll never know if it works :)
10:59 magnuse               rangi++
10:57 vfernandes            testing now...
10:57 vfernandes            and added <<items.on_loan>> in the check out notice
10:56 vfernandes            C4::Letters::parseletter($letter, 'items', $item->{itemnumber}); in the sendCirculationAlerts method
10:55 rangi                 if it works, you can send a patch :)
10:55 rangi                 so add that line to C4/Circulation.pm then <<items.on_loan>> to the notice and you should be good to go
10:54 vfernandes            i'm seeing in the database and item.on_loan is the column responsible to save the item date_due
10:54 rangi                 yep
10:53 vfernandes            items.on_loan
10:52 rangi                 or you could add
10:52 rangi                 then you can use <<items.date_due>> (or something similair)
10:51 rangi                 C4::Letters::parseletter($letter, 'items',    $item->{itemnumber});
10:50 rangi                 if you add
10:50 rangi                 see line 2628 of C4/Circulation.pm
10:47 rangi                 yep, just need to add a couple of lines so that you can use itemscontent in it too
10:41 vfernandes            but isn't for overdue notices, it's for check out notices
10:41 rangi                 etc
10:40 rangi                 0    1 * * *  $KOHA_CRON_PATH/overdue_notices.pl -t -itemscontent "date_due,title,barcode,author"
10:40 rangi                 you can do it from items
10:38 magnuse               but it sure looks like something that would be nice to have
10:38 magnuse               doesn't look like it
10:36 vfernandes            issues.date_due can't be included in the notices?
10:34 magnuse               sorry vfernandes, forget what i just said, i was getting my db tables mixed up!
10:32 vfernandes            :/
10:30 magnuse               vfernandes: doesn't look like items.datedue is available to the notices - i have no idea why...
10:18 vfernandes            people it's possible to include the date due in the check out letter/email?
10:14 magnuse               \o
10:12 druthb                o/
10:10 magnuse               hiya vfernandes
10:10 vfernandes            hi :)
08:54 kf                    hi Amit_Gupta
08:52 Amit_Gupta            heya kf ;)
08:34 kf                    hi julian
08:32 julian                hello #koha
07:58 magnuse               ? ;-)
07:49 clrh                  oups
07:49 clrh                  https://docs2.google.com/a/biblibre.com/drawings/d/1okKt_BdA1q8Y-CRw42rWy1hNyEVSkCBDyNKiFL7gWso/edit
07:38 magnuse               guten morgen kf
07:36 kf                    mornign magnuse
07:24 magnuse               kia ora bigbrovar
07:14 bigbrovar             Timezone Appropriate greetings everyone
07:07 kf                    hi #koha
07:02 magnuse               hi francharb
06:59 francharb             morning #koha
06:54 magnuse               hi reiveune
06:52 reiveune              cait , magnuse : hi
06:47 magnuse               bonjour alex_a
06:47 alex_a                hallo magnuse
06:36 magnuse               bonjour #koha
06:36 clrh                  raté
06:36 clrh                  hi cai :)
06:35 alex_a                bonjour cait :)
06:35 alex_a                hi #koha
06:34 cait                  hi reiveune and clrh :)
06:23 reiveune              hello
06:14 cait                  morning magnuse
05:50 Amit_Gupta            heya Ropuch ;)
05:50 cait                  hi Ropuch
05:48 Ropuch                Morning #koha
05:47 cait                  not sure yet
05:46 Amit_Gupta            cait: are you coming for attending kohaconf
05:45 Oak                   no idea
05:45 cait                  eythian: around?
05:43 cait                  hi Oak :)
05:43 Oak                   hiya cait :)
05:43 Oak                   ok
05:42 Amit_Gupta            Oak no idea
05:42 cait                  hi Amit_Gupta :)
05:42 Amit_Gupta            heya cait
05:42 cait                  morning #koha
05:27 Oak                   Amit_Gupta, any idea what would be the cost to travel from Pakistan to Thane, India?
05:23 Oak                   hello Amit_Gupta :)
05:09 Amit_Gupta            heya Oak ;)
05:02 Oak                   \o
04:54 druthb                Off to bed.  Be well.  :)
04:54 druthb                I'm very proud of her, yes.  :)  but my lil girl all grown up....
04:53 Space_Librarian       be proud, not sad. :)
04:52 druthb                I get to go watch my firstborn graduate from high school tomorrow.    #littlehappylittlesad
04:52 * druthb              can't find anything further to fix tonight on this little test data load, so the work is done.  :)
04:43 rangi                 i must organise a gpg key signing party one night of ALA
04:43 rangi                 reminds me
04:38 druthb                I fear for us to do that, would require that someone besides NateC do it.  ;-)  He's relatively low-tech
04:37 rangi                 we have our gpg keys on ours, and a qr code on the back
04:36 druthb                (and mine's easy.)
04:36 druthb                awesome.  :)  I'm gonna suggest to NateC that we add our IRC handles to ours; I can't count how many times I've *told* folks, or scribbled it on the back.
04:35 rangi                 its new business card day at catalyst
04:35 druthb                Hi, rangi! :)
04:34 * druthb              chuckles.
04:33 rangi                 http://twitpic.com/54wlci
04:32 rangi                 heya druthb
04:29 huginn`               druthb: Brooke was last seen in #koha 1 day, 0 hours, 12 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Brooke> rangi++
04:29 druthb                @seen Brooke
04:03 huginn`               rangi: The operation succeeded.
04:03 rangi                 @later tell gmcharlt any word on when mail on the wiki will be going again (or some other way for new people to be able to edit it)
03:44 huginn`               New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6433] rebuild_zebra.pl does not handle MARC::Record exceptions gracefully <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6433>
03:31 glernil               previous notices are always being sent with the new notice.. which lead to multiple notices being sent in the email address of a patron.. any idea?
03:26 rangi                 hiya Amit_Gupta
03:26 Amit_Gupta            heya chris
02:46 eythian               hello
02:45 jransom               heya
02:44 Space_Librarian       hey jransom
02:43 rangi                 hi jransom
01:47 rangi                 cya chris_n
01:46 chris_n               g'night #koha
01:09 * chris_n             sits down to relax 525 bales of straw later
00:21 pauln                 outta here