Time Nick Message 00:21 pauln outta here 01:09 * chris_n sits down to relax 525 bales of straw later 01:46 chris_n g'night #koha 01:47 rangi cya chris_n 02:43 rangi hi jransom 02:44 Space_Librarian hey jransom 02:45 jransom heya 02:46 eythian hello 03:26 Amit_Gupta heya chris 03:26 rangi hiya Amit_Gupta 03:31 glernil previous notices are always being sent with the new notice.. which lead to multiple notices being sent in the email address of a patron.. any idea? 03:44 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6433] rebuild_zebra.pl does not handle MARC::Record exceptions gracefully <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6433> 04:03 rangi @later tell gmcharlt any word on when mail on the wiki will be going again (or some other way for new people to be able to edit it) 04:03 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded. 04:29 druthb @seen Brooke 04:29 huginn` druthb: Brooke was last seen in #koha 1 day, 0 hours, 12 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Brooke> rangi++ 04:32 rangi heya druthb 04:33 rangi http://twitpic.com/54wlci 04:34 * druthb chuckles. 04:35 druthb Hi, rangi! :) 04:35 rangi its new business card day at catalyst 04:36 druthb awesome. :) I'm gonna suggest to NateC that we add our IRC handles to ours; I can't count how many times I've *told* folks, or scribbled it on the back. 04:36 druthb (and mine's easy.) 04:37 rangi we have our gpg keys on ours, and a qr code on the back 04:38 druthb I fear for us to do that, would require that someone besides NateC do it. ;-) He's relatively low-tech 04:43 rangi reminds me 04:43 rangi i must organise a gpg key signing party one night of ALA 04:52 * druthb can't find anything further to fix tonight on this little test data load, so the work is done. :) 04:52 druthb I get to go watch my firstborn graduate from high school tomorrow. #littlehappylittlesad 04:53 Space_Librarian be proud, not sad. :) 04:54 druthb I'm very proud of her, yes. :) but my lil girl all grown up.... 04:54 druthb Off to bed. Be well. :) 05:02 Oak \o 05:09 Amit_Gupta heya Oak ;) 05:23 Oak hello Amit_Gupta :) 05:27 Oak Amit_Gupta, any idea what would be the cost to travel from Pakistan to Thane, India? 05:42 cait morning #koha 05:42 Amit_Gupta heya cait 05:42 cait hi Amit_Gupta :) 05:42 Amit_Gupta Oak no idea 05:43 Oak ok 05:43 Oak hiya cait :) 05:43 cait hi Oak :) 05:45 cait eythian: around? 05:45 Oak no idea 05:46 Amit_Gupta cait: are you coming for attending kohaconf 05:47 cait not sure yet 05:48 Ropuch Morning #koha 05:50 cait hi Ropuch 05:50 Amit_Gupta heya Ropuch ;) 06:14 cait morning magnuse 06:23 reiveune hello 06:34 cait hi reiveune and clrh :) 06:35 alex_a hi #koha 06:35 alex_a bonjour cait :) 06:36 clrh hi cai :) 06:36 clrh raté 06:36 magnuse bonjour #koha 06:47 alex_a hallo magnuse 06:47 magnuse bonjour alex_a 06:52 reiveune cait , magnuse : hi 06:54 magnuse hi reiveune 06:59 francharb morning #koha 07:02 magnuse hi francharb 07:07 kf hi #koha 07:14 bigbrovar Timezone Appropriate greetings everyone 07:24 magnuse kia ora bigbrovar 07:36 kf mornign magnuse 07:38 magnuse guten morgen kf 07:49 clrh https://docs2.google.com/a/biblibre.com/drawings/d/1okKt_BdA1q8Y-CRw42rWy1hNyEVSkCBDyNKiFL7gWso/edit 07:49 clrh oups 07:58 magnuse ? ;-) 08:32 julian hello #koha 08:34 kf hi julian 08:52 Amit_Gupta heya kf ;) 08:54 kf hi Amit_Gupta 10:10 vfernandes hi :) 10:10 magnuse hiya vfernandes 10:12 druthb o/ 10:14 magnuse \o 10:18 vfernandes people it's possible to include the date due in the check out letter/email? 10:30 magnuse vfernandes: doesn't look like items.datedue is available to the notices - i have no idea why... 10:32 vfernandes :/ 10:34 magnuse sorry vfernandes, forget what i just said, i was getting my db tables mixed up! 10:36 vfernandes issues.date_due can't be included in the notices? 10:38 magnuse doesn't look like it 10:38 magnuse but it sure looks like something that would be nice to have 10:40 rangi you can do it from items 10:40 rangi 0 1 * * * $KOHA_CRON_PATH/overdue_notices.pl -t -itemscontent "date_due,title,barcode,author" 10:41 rangi etc 10:41 vfernandes but isn't for overdue notices, it's for check out notices 10:47 rangi yep, just need to add a couple of lines so that you can use itemscontent in it too 10:50 rangi see line 2628 of C4/Circulation.pm 10:50 rangi if you add 10:51 rangi C4::Letters::parseletter($letter, 'items', $item->{itemnumber}); 10:52 rangi then you can use <<items.date_due>> (or something similair) 10:52 rangi or you could add 10:53 vfernandes items.on_loan 10:54 rangi yep 10:54 vfernandes i'm seeing in the database and item.on_loan is the column responsible to save the item date_due 10:55 rangi so add that line to C4/Circulation.pm then <<items.on_loan>> to the notice and you should be good to go 10:55 rangi if it works, you can send a patch :) 10:56 vfernandes C4::Letters::parseletter($letter, 'items', $item->{itemnumber}); in the sendCirculationAlerts method 10:57 vfernandes and added <<items.on_loan>> in the check out notice 10:57 vfernandes testing now... 10:59 magnuse rangi++ 11:11 rangi i guess we'll never know if it works :) 11:22 kf rangi: sleep? 11:23 rangi soon 11:29 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6434] Many changes for Ukrainian and Russian sql-tables <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6434> 11:37 magnuse hm i wonder if the work on bug 5166 crashes with the patch for bug 6433? 11:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Refactor rebuild_zebra.pl into a library 11:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6433 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , rebuild_zebra.pl does not handle MARC::Record exceptions gracefully 11:45 magnuse hiya nengard 11:45 nengard monring 11:45 nengard morning 11:56 magnuse nengard: i need to edit my entry on the paid support page - how do i find it? is it a post? 12:15 conan hello everyone 12:15 oleonard Hi #koha 12:15 magnuse hola conan and oleonard 12:20 nengard magnuse sorry, missed your question, it's not a post, it's in a directory and i think wizzyrea knows the specifics 12:21 magnuse thanks nengard, i'll bug wizzy when i see her 13:23 conan I get tired of going over the questions everytime I need to test a new install (for a branch, a bug, etc) 13:23 conan I was wondering if is there a way to tell the installer about some defaults and it doesn't ask anything 13:24 conan I was about to modify 'sub get_configuration' to read from environment if appropriate values set 13:24 conan but I decided to ask first, how do you do? 13:24 magnuse conan: i think you could use a fake koha-install-log, same as when you upgrade 13:24 conan you go over every configuration question every time, pressing enter? 13:25 conan magnuse: I saw that, but I don't understood it 13:25 conan it just have lines like: 13:25 conan SOMEVAR=__SOMEVAR__ 13:25 conan I don't know what's taht 13:26 conan I was thinking about modifing Makefile.PL like this for every variable: 13:26 magnuse the file is created when you have run through perl Makefile.PL 13:26 conan if(defined($ENV{'SOMEVAR'})) { # use that value if allowed } 13:27 conan magnuse: yes, I'm looking at it right now, it says for every var: 13:27 conan LOG_DIR=__LOG_DIR__ 13:27 magnuse not loking at the right file, then 13:28 magnuse what you see is a kind of template 13:28 conan ah... 13:29 magnuse if you have dev install it's in koha-dev/misc/koha-install-log 13:29 conan magnuse: found it, thank, you saved me a lot of typing (I was about to reinvent the wheel) 13:29 magnuse cool! 13:33 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6436] Don't allow deletion of an itemtype used in items.itype <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6436> 13:40 oleonard The dreaded "Can't call method "field" on an undefined value." Seems like we're getting this a lot lately. 13:40 oleonard I got it today when trying to populate 100a with an authority record 13:41 oleonard Can anyone reproduce this error? Or is it a problem with my records? 13:56 oleonard That Koha can't gracefully handle errors like that frustrates me. 13:58 conan oleonard: tell me how to reproduce and I'll try 13:59 conan magnuse: it seems I'll have to reinvent the wheel anyway :( 13:59 oleonard conan: I opened a blank MARC entry form with a framework which links 100a to an authority record 14:00 oleonard conan: I clicked the link to open the authority search form; Searched for an author; Clicked 'choose' for the author I wanted 14:00 conan magnus_away: that file is useful only if you already made an installation, what I want is to define defaults for test installations and don't be bother with questions 14:02 conan oleonard: let me try it 14:03 conan oleonard: wait, do I have to have an authority record defined? or not to fire the bug? 14:03 oleonard You have to have an authority record in order to test 14:09 library_systems_guy hey is hdl around? 14:09 hdl library_systems_guy: yep 14:10 library_systems_guy hey hdl, what was that command for updating with changes? I am going to try and add that to the git section of the wiki 14:10 hdl git commit --amend ? 14:10 library_systems_guy no it was like git stash maybe? 14:11 hdl oleonard: which is the MARCflavour you have and what is the bug ? 14:11 hdl git stash save 14:11 hdl git stash apply 14:11 library_systems_guy then git fetch 14:11 hdl git stash list 14:11 library_systems_guy ah cool 14:11 hdl git fetch 14:11 wahanui git fetch is, like, timing out 14:11 hdl git rebase origin/branch 14:12 hdl git stash pop 14:12 library_systems_guy ok awesome, thanks hdl 14:12 hdl wahanui: forget git fetch 14:12 wahanui hdl: I forgot git fetch 14:12 hdl library_systems_guy: np 14:12 wizzyrea git fetch is <reply> 14:12 oleonard hdl: MARC21. When I try to choose an personal name authority record to populate 100a I get an error 14:12 library_systems_guy hdl++ 14:13 hdl which is it ? 14:13 hdl oleonard: ? 14:13 oleonard "Can't call method "field" on an undefined value." 14:13 hdl One of our devs developped C4::Logguer in order to have a really unified Logguing system 14:13 hdl (work in progress...) 14:14 hdl The MARC::Record seems not created or it has an empty field. 14:14 hdl Can you give me the line # referred to in your apache logs ? 14:16 oleonard blinddetail-biblio-search.pl: Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80. 14:18 conan oleonard: can't reproduce, my zebra isn't working 14:21 hdl oleonard: do you have an authid ? and an authority already created in your catalogue for that ? 14:22 hdl seems $record should be tested. 14:23 oleonard hdl: That must be it. The authority is showing up in searches but seems to no longer exist. 14:24 hdl *nod... 14:24 hdl should I say it ? 14:25 oleonard Are you going to say, "Koha really should be able to display a human-friendly error in situations like this!" ? 14:25 hdl oleonard: this is a work in progress... 14:26 oleonard rebuild_zebra.pl with "-a" to clean up my authorities index? 14:26 hdl -r to clean it up 14:26 hdl -a yes 14:26 hdl -a only won't reset the idex database. 14:27 hdl -a only won't reset the index database. 14:28 oleonard It doesn't seem to have had any effect. The same results are appearing. 14:35 conan oleonard: is this your error? 14:35 conan Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/C4/Context.pm line 680 14:35 oleonard No, that's a new one to me 14:35 hdl oleonard: zebraidx -c path/to/zebra-authorities.cfg -d authorities init 14:35 hdl oleonard: zebraidx -c path/to/zebra-authorities.cfg -d authorities commit 14:35 hdl tehn reindex 14:35 conan got my zebra working and got that 14:36 conan hdl: do we have to reindex? isn't rebuild_zebra enough? 14:36 conan or that's for oleonard case? 14:37 hdl conan: it appears that rebuild_zebra sometimes is not enough. 14:38 hdl conan: for instance, if you donot have any authorities in your database. 14:38 hdl conan: doing a rebuild_zebra -r won't reset the index... Because when it exports nothing, it doesnot perform the init on the database. 14:39 conan hdl: not my case, I had 2 authorities 14:39 hdl and sometimes, when one record breaks the indexation, zebraidx is not raising any error... and Koha would not manage that. 14:39 conan anyway, my test install seems to have died 14:39 conan now I can't go anywhere 14:40 hdl conan: this was in oleonard's case 14:41 oleonard Thanks hdl, that seems to have worked. 14:41 oleonard Can you explain what those commands did? 14:58 reiveune bye 14:59 hdl oleonard: sure. 14:59 hdl zebraidx init ... reinit the zebra database for authorities. 15:00 wizzyrea is that akin to deleting existing db and making a completely fresh db? 15:00 hdl zebraidx commit ... commits the modification (in case you use a shadow cache in database. 15:00 hdl wizzyrea: aye... you should use zebraidx init in that case. 15:00 wizzyrea gotcha, thx 15:01 * oleonard suspects this copy of "ASDJKGFAKSEHFK" in our catalog may not be legit 15:07 kf rain! 15:11 oleonard Thanks hdl 15:11 oleonard hdl++ 15:22 rhcl ping? 16:06 slef naught rhcl, pinging hdl off 16:06 slef naughty even 16:35 slef evening cait1 16:35 slef scary salads in Germany 16:35 cait1 hi slef :) 16:35 cait1 yeah, we got vegetable salad in the cafeteria today 16:35 cait1 not so tasty 16:36 slef heh, your cafeteria doesn't follow the government advice then? 16:36 cait1 no salad 16:36 cait1 but cooked vegetables as salad replacement 16:43 * slef goes for a coffee break :) 16:52 rhcl naught's had, all's spent, where our desire is got, without content 16:53 cait1 ? 16:53 cait1 ie-- 16:58 oleonard rhcl: If your wife is encouraging you to murder your superior, just say no. 16:59 rhcl [off] in the past it would be the other way around 17:02 rhcl but that was Shakespeare, Lady MacBeth, in response to Slef's comment above 17:02 rhcl one of those things from my distant past that never made it to the status of a post-nominal 17:12 * oleonard is sorry he stepped outside 17:12 oleonard @wunder 45701 17:12 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 32.0�C (12:55 PM EDT on May 31, 2011). 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Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa (Steady). 17:15 wizzyrea oof 17:17 library_systems_guy is it possible for me to attach a patch as an attachment in the bug report...im not sure if email is working on my dev server... 17:20 wizzyrea git bz? 17:20 wizzyrea git-bz? 17:20 wahanui git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 17:20 library_systems_guy doh...thanks wizzyrea 17:21 wizzyrea :) it's new 17:21 library_systems_guy ohh...well that makes sense then...complicated? 17:22 wizzyrea nah not really 17:27 adnc hello koha 17:31 conan library_systems_guy: but you could do it manually too 17:32 conan and after saying that, I have to run :P 17:32 conan later 17:32 library_systems_guy oh yeah just sending it to koha-patches 17:32 library_systems_guy lol thanks conan 17:33 cait1 hi adnc 17:33 adnc cait1, huhu 17:33 cait1 :) 17:35 library_systems_guy hmm ok 17:35 library_systems_guy so i did a git commit file 17:35 library_systems_guy and now i don't see the file in that directory :'( 17:35 * library_systems_guy just wants to add a div id 17:36 wizzyrea get in a safe directory, i use ~/kohaclone/patches 17:36 wizzyrea and issue a git format-patch origin 17:36 wizzyrea or you did that 17:36 wizzyrea and you don't see the file? 17:37 library_systems_guy oh no i just ran a git commit file 17:37 wizzyrea aha 17:37 library_systems_guy ohhh 17:37 wizzyrea version control using git? 17:37 wahanui i guess version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 17:37 library_systems_guy i didn't scroll far enough on the wiki 17:37 wizzyrea have you seen that? 17:37 library_systems_guy boo 17:37 wizzyrea aha 17:37 wizzyrea :) 17:37 library_systems_guy yeah thats what i was reading lol 17:37 * library_systems_guy feels silly 17:37 wizzyrea don't, git is wonderful and evil, all at once. 17:37 library_systems_guy exactly 17:45 Soupermanito library_systems_guy, your nick is really long 17:46 library_systems_guy indeed it is Soupermanito...but that is what autocomplete is for lol 17:46 library_systems_guy wizzyrea, was there something else i was supposed to do for git-bz other than whats on the wiki? 17:46 Soupermanito :P but it messes up whit my irc client XD 17:46 library_systems_guy what client are you using 17:46 wizzyrea no, that ought to do it 17:47 library_systems_guy hmm...i get an error that says bz is not a git command 17:47 wizzyrea AH 17:47 wizzyrea yes 17:47 library_systems_guy o_0 17:47 Soupermanito heya wizzyrea :D i figured uot what was the problem the other day, it turns out i hadn't created the MySQL database, thats why the password was wrong for it 17:47 wizzyrea you need to make sure your symlink to git-bz is in your path 17:47 wizzyrea Soupermanito: Yay!! 17:47 wizzyrea :D 17:47 Soupermanito :D 17:47 library_systems_guy ohhh 17:48 library_systems_guy so i need to export it 17:48 wizzyrea yep 17:48 library_systems_guy boo lol 17:49 wizzyrea something like export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin 17:49 wizzyrea would get it for this session 17:49 Soupermanito library_systems_guy, i use xchat whit auto indent nicks 17:49 library_systems_guy and that is broken? 17:50 Soupermanito not really, its just your name 17:50 library_systems_guy wizzyrea i guess i could put it in /usr/games because Koha + git = fun times 17:50 wizzyrea lol 17:50 library_systems_guy xchat hates /me 17:50 Soupermanito XD 17:50 wizzyrea @quote add library_systems_guy: I guess I could put (git-bz) in /usr/games because Koha + git = fun times 17:50 huginn` wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #139 added. 17:54 library_systems_guy so do i just reference the bug number in the comments when i do a commit? 17:54 wizzyrea usually what I do 17:54 wizzyrea and this is just me 17:54 wizzyrea is 17:54 wizzyrea Bug xxxx - what this bug is about 17:54 wizzyrea on the first line 17:54 library_systems_guy ahh ok i can do that...seems logical 17:54 wizzyrea then on the next few lines 17:54 wizzyrea a test plan is nice 17:55 wizzyrea so a quick summary of what it's supposed to do 17:55 wizzyrea and a quick idea of how someone who has never looked at it before could test it 17:55 library_systems_guy ok cool...maybe not so much on the testing end if i am just added a div id? 17:56 wizzyrea right, to test that you pretty much say "with this patch applied a new div id will be around X element" or somesuch 17:56 wizzyrea but you're right 17:56 wizzyrea you don't have to say much about that sort of thign 17:56 wizzyrea thing* 17:57 library_systems_guy but yeah i can definitely understand having some good testing procedures around non-trivial stuff :) 17:57 wizzyrea well and even pretty trivial stuff 17:57 library_systems_guy ok ill see what i can whip up :) 17:57 wizzyrea it'll be fabulous, I'm sure :) 17:58 library_systems_guy lol...iv'e just got to figure out how to edit my commit to have the bug number in it 17:58 wizzyrea git commit --amend 17:58 wizzyrea ;) 17:58 library_systems_guy aww thanks wizzyrea you are the best 17:58 library_systems_guy wizzyrea++ 17:58 wizzyrea should let you ammend the last commit. you'll also need to re-do your format-patch origin stuffs 17:59 wizzyrea amend with one m even. 17:59 wizzyrea library_systems_guy: it took me ages to learn this stuff. 17:59 wizzyrea AGES. 17:59 library_systems_guy yeah im feeling the same way lol 17:59 library_systems_guy but with bz i shouldn't have to do a format correct? 17:59 wizzyrea right 18:00 library_systems_guy cool...i think i like that better 18:00 wizzyrea you'll still have to poke bugzilla and change it to 'patch sent' and 'awaiting signoff' 18:01 library_systems_guy i can do that i think :-/ 18:01 pastebot "tcohen" at 200.16.16.13 pasted "script for checking records" (86 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/70 18:02 library_systems_guy wizzyrea, for returns in the commit string is it just \n 18:03 wizzyrea [off] I use nano as my editor >.> they tease me, hence the off. 18:03 library_systems_guy lol umm well i use emacs...guess im stuck lol 18:03 wizzyrea I'm sorry I don't have an answer for that particular question, maybe someone else can hop in 18:04 library_systems_guy i just saw nengard get on and she is the patch queen lol 18:04 nengard huh what?? 18:04 * nengard ducks 18:04 * library_systems_guy throws random commit question 18:04 library_systems_guy how do i insert returns into the commit string 18:05 library_systems_guy so its not just one giant line when i throw in my testing message 18:05 library_systems_guy im using the emacs shell buffer...if that helps lol 18:05 cait commit string? 18:05 library_systems_guy the -m bit 18:05 cait ah 18:05 library_systems_guy message** 18:05 library_systems_guy sorry cait 18:06 cait I normally do it when I commit it, or you can do git commit --amend 18:06 cait the first line will be the mail subject and you can write a commit message below that 18:06 cait not sure about -m :) 18:06 wizzyrea ^^ is the way I do it 18:06 library_systems_guy oh so nobody uses -m? 18:07 library_systems_guy my SVN background has failed me 18:07 * oleonard likes having more than one line 18:07 wizzyrea i'm sure there are people who do, but not me >.> 18:07 * wizzyrea too 18:08 library_systems_guy so i don't need the -m but i can just type a message after the commit? 18:08 slef I use -m 18:08 * library_systems_guy is so confused 18:08 wizzyrea right 18:08 wizzyrea git commit /path/to/the/file 18:08 library_systems_guy slef halp 18:08 slef it's not required but avoids the editor being fired up 18:08 wizzyrea AHA, this is against the editor bias :) 18:08 slef reading scrollback 18:08 nengard i do the same as cait 18:09 slef library_systems_guy: M-x start-server, then export EDITOR=emacsclient in your emacs shell window 18:09 library_systems_guy wizzyrea, that is what i was doing...so mine looks like git commit /path/to/file -m "some info about the bug" 18:10 wizzyrea right, I leave off the -m 18:10 wizzyrea *shrug* 18:10 slef I never put a file on the commit command line :-S 18:10 slef is that the commit message? 18:10 wizzyrea yea 18:10 wizzyrea wait what? 18:10 library_systems_guy oh? 18:10 slef no it isn't wizzyrea I just read the man page 18:11 wizzyrea ok 18:11 library_systems_guy i think the path to file is for the file you want to commit 18:11 wizzyrea ^^ 18:11 wizzyrea is what I was talking about 18:11 wizzyrea it's not mandatory, you can do -a and get all files you've changed 18:11 slef I use git add and git rm, so don't need to mention files on the commit 18:12 library_systems_guy oh 18:12 wizzyrea I do it the way it says to on the wiki 18:12 library_systems_guy cursed wiki documentation leading me astray 18:12 slef anyway library_systems_guy you OK for a mo now? 18:12 wizzyrea tmtwwtdi 18:12 wizzyrea tmtowtdi 18:12 wizzyrea there we go 18:12 library_systems_guy o_0 18:12 wizzyrea tmtowtdi is there's more than one way to do it 18:12 slef yeah tmtowtdi and the wiki often doesn't mention that because only one person wrote it ;) 18:13 slef tmtowtdi? 18:13 wahanui rumour has it tmtowtdi is there's more than one way to do it 18:13 slef wahanui: botsnack! 18:13 wahanui :) 18:13 slef I so nearly typed botsex 18:13 wizzyrea ROFL 18:13 wizzyrea slef++ for the funny of the day 18:13 slef wahanui: botsex! 18:13 wahanui slef: sorry... 18:13 library_systems_guy umm i see what you did there slef 18:13 wizzyrea lol 18:14 slef library_systems_guy: oh and C-x # to finish with an emacsclient buffer I think 18:14 cait lol 18:14 library_systems_guy so you are running emacs inside of emacs 18:14 library_systems_guy lol 18:14 cait I also do git add and git commit without file path - if someone is still interested :) 18:14 * slef goes to bludgeon the bank website into submission to pay some bills 18:14 slef library_systems_guy: emacs invoking the shell invoking emacs... 18:14 * wizzyrea falls down dizzily 18:15 slef library_systems_guy: if you're only changing one file, C-x v v will commit it 18:15 oleonard library_systems_guy: Is the problem that git is invoking the wrong editor? 18:15 tcohen i've pasted a script that helps in the task of upgrading to 3.4, by telling which biblionumbers would fail 18:15 tcohen remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl 18:15 tcohen i'd like someone to take a look at it 18:15 slef there's probably a way to manage more files but I don't do much editing in emacs 18:15 slef tcohen: hero! 18:15 tcohen before posting in public 18:16 wizzyrea what would cause them to fail? 18:16 tcohen (don't want to be embarrased) 18:16 wizzyrea (curious) 18:16 tcohen encoding problems 18:16 wizzyrea aha 18:16 cait tcohen: I agree with slef :) tcohen++ 18:16 slef tcohen: I'm busy for an hour at least but PM me a link and I'll look? 18:16 library_systems_guy oleonard, no no, i was just trying to add a commit message 18:16 tcohen basically I put as_usmarc and as_xml_record in a try-catch block 18:16 library_systems_guy but i was trying to do it with bz 18:16 tcohen and print the biblionumbers that fail 18:16 slef tcohen: sounds reasonable 18:17 library_systems_guy it lets me commit now but something about cookies and a browser 18:17 tcohen http://paste.koha-community.org/70 18:17 tcohen it could be improved of course to tell MARC is valid or not 18:18 tcohen but at least it will tell which records would fail for koha 18:18 wizzyrea the git-bz wiki page says: Optionally, if you plan on sending bugs to bugzilla from git, you'll need to have Chrome or Firefox installed on your dev machine, and have logged into bugzilla at least once from that machine. Git-bz uses Firefox's cookie to authenticate you to bugzilla, so remember to save at least that one cookie. Should you clear out your cookies on that machine, you will need to log into bugzilla again from that machine to ge 18:18 wizzyrea work again. 18:19 library_systems_guy ahh ok...i wonder if i can just copy the cookie from my machine to the dev box...i seriously doubt it 18:19 library_systems_guy i only have shell access 18:19 library_systems_guy :'( 18:19 wizzyrea what I did, was install firefox from packages 18:19 wizzyrea then ssh -x user@host 18:20 wizzyrea then ran firefox from the command line. That of course requires you to an x server on your local machine. easy if you have a mac with the dev tools :P 18:20 wizzyrea probably if you are working from linux too 18:20 library_systems_guy well i have an ubuntu box 18:20 wizzyrea windows... I have no clue 18:20 library_systems_guy so i think i can make it happen 18:22 tcohen if you want to actually run in the remote machine you should add the -no-remote parameter to firefox command 18:22 wizzyrea oh right! 18:22 wizzyrea yes, thanks, I forgot that bit 18:22 tcohen otherwise it will reuse the gecko engine running in your local desktop 18:22 wizzyrea you only have to do it once, just enough to get you logged into bz 18:23 library_systems_guy right right 18:26 slef odd 18:26 slef should be easy enough to log into BZ and save the cookie from curl or wget 18:26 wizzyrea bbiab 18:27 tcohen http://blogs.unc.edu.ar/koha/lang/es/2011/05/31/migracion-a-3-4-surgen-problemas-con-registrosmigration-to-3-4-record-problems-arise/ 18:28 tcohen in the spanish version y posted a link to the .pl file 18:48 library_systems_guy i gave up on submitting with BZ and just added the formatted patch as an attachment...hope that works 18:49 cait it's what we did before git-bz came along :) 18:49 library_systems_guy lol that stupid cookie thing 18:49 library_systems_guy if it wasn't for that id have it working 18:55 slef the git-bz wiki page? 18:55 slef git-bz? 18:55 wahanui git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 18:55 slef but first, I read tcohen's pastebin 18:55 * oleonard wonders, git-bz = get busy? 18:56 cait hehe 18:56 slef oleonard: git-buzzed, being attacked by low-flying version control 19:00 slef tcohen: looks fine to me. Only thing I might change is to include $@ in the Error creating MARCXML... warn. 19:00 cait slef++ :) 19:04 tcohen alright 19:07 slef damn it, 140 lines of git-bz getting login cookies from browsers... it must be simpler to get it from python unless httplib2 is really awful 19:20 rhcl what might cause an error 500 - internal server error, when saving a new patron record? 19:21 library_systems_guy database insert error? 19:21 cait no idea 19:21 library_systems_guy what does the log say? 19:21 cait is there a message in the error log? 19:21 cait jinx? 19:21 library_systems_guy dang it... 19:21 * library_systems_guy can't talk unless somebody unjinxes me 19:21 cait oh 19:21 cait I am sorry 19:21 cait didn't know that 19:22 cait how do you unjinx? 19:22 cait wizzyrea: help! 19:22 wizzyrea uh... 19:22 wizzyrea library_systems_guy library_systems_guy library_systems_guy 19:22 wizzyrea maybe? 19:22 library_systems_guy YAYY 19:22 library_systems_guy im saved 19:22 * wizzyrea didn't know which rules we were playing under :P 19:23 * library_systems_guy will accept any rules that allow me to talk again :D 19:23 wizzyrea though she didn't say "triple padlock" so... 19:23 cait ok, and now you have to explain that jinx thing to me again 19:23 wizzyrea lol 19:23 wizzyrea there's a kids game 19:23 nengard k - i'm missing something tini tiny here - i want a report of items that haven't circulated - i know there is a canned report but it doesn't let you download it - so I need to write on 19:23 nengard SELECT b.title, i.itemcallnumber, i.barcode FROM issues left join items i using (itemnumber) left join biblio b using (biblionumber) WHERE i.itemnumber NOT IN (SELECT issues.itemnumber FROM issues) AND i.itemnumber NOT IN (SELECT old_issues.itemnumber FROM old_issues) 19:23 nengard this gets no results ... what am i missing 19:23 wizzyrea nengard: isn't there one in the library for that? 19:24 nengard yes, but it's insanely complicated 19:24 wizzyrea ooo 19:24 nengard trying to simplify it 19:24 cait let me look 19:25 cait hmhmhm 19:25 cait so we want itemnumbers that are not in issues and oldissues right? 19:25 nengard and the one on the wiki doesn't work either ... fyi 19:26 nengard cait yes, 19:26 nengard items that have never circulated 19:26 nengard the one on the wiki does work ... sorry 19:27 cait ok 19:27 nengard larryb helped 19:27 nengard SELECT b.title, i.itemcallnumber, i.barcode FROM items i left join issues using (itemnumber) left join biblio b using (biblionumber) WHERE i.itemnumber NOT IN (SELECT issues.itemnumber FROM issues) AND i.itemnumber NOT IN (SELECT old_issues.itemnumber FROM old_issues) 19:27 nengard woo hoo 19:28 slef larryb helipad 19:29 cait wizzyrea: the jinx game? 19:29 wizzyrea right 19:30 wizzyrea so two people saying the same thinga t the same time, and if one person says "triple padlock" or "pinch poke owe me a coke" or summat before the other one does, the other person is jinxed until the conditions of the rule are met 19:30 cait ok 19:30 cait so you never say jinx actually? 19:30 wizzyrea triple padlock means you have to say their name 3 times 19:30 wizzyrea no you do 19:30 oleonard Is the procedure for importing authority records in the manual? 19:31 wizzyrea whoever gets it out first + the rule, the other person is jinxed and can't talk 19:31 cait ah 19:31 cait so I missed part of it 19:31 cait how do you undo the coke thing? 19:31 wizzyrea well yea, that's partly why I was confusticated ^.^ 19:31 oleonard bulkmarcimport.pl does authorities too, correct? 19:31 wizzyrea buy them a coke I guess 19:32 cait that one could get difficult to undo 19:32 cait oleonard: correct, you will need -a 19:37 tcohen slef: i linked in the blog a modified version that adds $@ to the warn 19:38 tcohen already sent an email to koha-devel so others check it 19:39 slef tcohen: cool! 19:44 slef and in other news, it's crazy simple to get a bugzilla login cookie in python, so that's coming to git-bz when I get a round tuit 19:45 slef bbl dinner 19:45 library_systems_guy w00t slef 19:47 slef I'm thinking something like git config bz.username whatever ; git config bz.passcode whatever ; and then when you run git bz it replaces passcode with a login cookie 19:47 rangi morning 19:47 rhcl rangi 19:47 slef so if someone gets your .git/config, you need to change your password but they don't actually know what it was, so they're limited to whatever git-bz can do 19:48 library_systems_guy nice slef 19:48 * library_systems_guy would greatly appreciate that 19:49 cait ata marie rangi 19:55 library_systems_guy I made a change to the wiki...can somebody do a sanity check? 19:55 library_systems_guy http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 19:55 library_systems_guy the See changes 'origin' Git repo from your branch section 19:56 library_systems_guy i added the last bit... 19:57 rangi heya liw 19:57 wizzyrea looks ok to me 19:57 wizzyrea hi liw 19:57 library_systems_guy thanks wizzyrea 20:00 * liw waves 20:09 tcohen byeeee 20:10 rangi my stop 20:10 rangi bbiab 20:21 rangi back 20:22 * cait waves 20:22 bg hey cait :) 20:22 cait hi bg :) 20:22 bg @wunder 93109 20:22 huginn` bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 20.2�C (1:26 PM PDT on May 31, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady). 20:22 wizzyrea wb 20:28 slef this is probably a silly question, but why does http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration say to install python-httplib2? git-bz doesn't use it AFAICS 20:28 wizzyrea it wouldn't work for me without it 20:29 slef hmm 20:53 pianohacker The last hill riding home from work is trying to kill me, I tell you 20:53 pianohacker also, hi 20:54 rangi hehe 20:54 rangi hi pianohacker 20:54 pianohacker how's it going, rangi? 20:54 rangi not too bad, hows things with you? 20:55 pianohacker pretty good, actually 20:56 pianohacker lovely long weekend. Did you have any sort of holiday? 20:57 Space_Librarian we have one coming up, don't we, rangi? 20:58 pianohacker hi spacelib 20:58 Space_Librarian hi pianohacker 20:58 Space_Librarian cycling up hills? ouch. O.o 20:59 rangi yeah next weekend 21:00 ibeardslee Yay for Queenie 21:00 Space_Librarian hooray for queenie indeedz1 21:01 Space_Librarian z1 = ! 21:01 pianohacker Space_Librarian: Downside of living next to these beautiful foothills :P 21:02 Space_Librarian lol. yeah. My parents live on a deceptive steep hill. I find walking it less evil than riding, so more power to you. ;) 21:05 pianohacker Heh, yeah. You can bike 10 miles of flat land as easy as walking 1 mile, but riding up a hill seems the exact opposite 21:09 cait eythian: around? 21:12 rangi not for another hour or so cait 21:13 cait ok 21:13 cait probably going to miss him again :) 21:14 cait but I added my comment on the bug :( probably not much more I can do. Someone else testing would be good 21:17 rangi right 21:39 Brooke kia ora 21:42 rangi hiya Brooke 21:42 Brooke :) 21:43 Brooke I've a question for the Library Open Source collective brain 21:44 Brooke anyone know if anyone else ever took Fred Brown's proper indexing suggestions to heart? 21:44 Brooke I'd love a nice botbi tool like Cindex but open source. 21:45 Brooke http://www.allegrotechindexing.com/indexingtools.pdf 21:45 Brooke for what I'm yappin' about. 21:45 rangi i can give you a free software answer 21:45 rangi http://mako.cc/writing/hill-when_free_software_isnt_better.html 21:47 rangi id look at xapian 21:49 wizzyrea lol wow, wtf is going on with open office? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/what-the-heck-is-happening-with-openoffice-update/9025 21:49 wizzyrea oracle has abandoned it, libre office is wildly successful, now apache's gonna give it a home? 21:49 wizzyrea maybe it'll unfork with LO 21:50 Brooke could be wizzy 22:13 Brooke hey nate 22:16 Brooke You Might Be Lookin' at Redneck Territory when Google doesn't have Street View info, or even Street Info. 22:17 ibeardslee wizzyrea: last I heard was that the LibreOffice folk were quite happy forked. 22:36 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5918] When AddPatronLists is set to "general" and EnhancedMessagingPreferences is set, messaging prefs not copied from defaults <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5918> 22:40 cait good night 23:32 pianohacker rangi: around? 23:32 rangi yep 23:32 pianohacker rangi: testing 5918 for signoff, introduces whitespace errors. I'm testing the actual functionality, which looks kosher. Just not sure how picky I'm expected to be 23:33 rangi you can be picky about the whitespace if you like :) normally i just fix it 23:33 rangi but the functionality is the most important thing 23:33 pianohacker okay, cool 23:33 rangi (trailing spaces bother me less than they bother git :)) 23:36 pianohacker heh, no kidding. Never understood why it set off fire alarms; tabs/spaces mixing can be problematic, but not trailing spaces 23:41 pianohacker rangi: push signed-off patch to bugzilla? 23:42 rangi yus please 23:42 pianohacker aight 23:42 rangi have you seen git-bz ? 23:42 rangi to make doing that easier? 23:42 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 23:43 rangi heya druthb 23:43 druthb hi, rangi! 23:43 druthb Thanx for your tweet; Lindsey enjoyed getting messages from all over the world. :) you n Space_Librarian on one side, and cait on the other. 23:44 rangi cool 23:44 Space_Librarian :) She had a good day? Tearful but good? 23:44 druthb yes. Her friends and I took her to get Mongolian barbecue after; she loves that. 23:45 ibeardslee mmmm .. is the Mongolian BBQ still going in Wellington? 23:46 pianohacker rangi: yes, actually, saw wizzy talk about a while back. Hadn't seen that page, though, thanks 23:51 * druthb is bemused; she got a membership invite from the National Rifle Association--apparently, one of their magazines you can choose from is "America's 1st Freedom." Funny; I thought the First Amendment came first, not the Second.... 23:54 rangi theres a great quote from Chief Joseph, of the Nez Perce 23:54 rangi that brooke would know im sure 23:55 rangi I claim a right to live on my land and accord you the privilege to return to yours. 23:55 rangi which is arguably the first american freedom :) 23:55 druthb :) 23:56 ibeardslee Robbie Robertson put that in one of his songs 23:56 rangi he did 23:56 rangi the entire speech in fact 23:56 * ibeardslee tries to remember the song 23:56 druthb I wouldn't mind the NRA quite so much, truly I wouldn't, if they did what they say on paper that they do.l 23:56 ibeardslee firing up Banshee 23:57 rangi racing ya 23:57 druthb ...but they chain the right to tote a gun to Repblican far-right conservatism, religion, and acute racism, waaaaay too much, when it comes to the local folx. 23:57 ibeardslee Words of Fire Deeds of BlooD 23:57 rangi words of fire, deeds of blood 23:58 rangi you win 23:58 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Words+Of+Fire+Deeds+Of+Blood/1TY8tt?src=5 23:58 ibeardslee rangi: I have the album on my PC if you want to listen to the whole thing 23:58 rangi i have the cd in my desk drawer 23:59 rangi :) 23:59 ibeardslee it brings shivers down my spine 23:59 ibeardslee lifts the heart 23:59 rangi yeah, it is a good day to die is a powerful one 23:59 ibeardslee oh yeah