Time  Nick         Message
21:25 huginn`      bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 22.1�C (2:28 PM PDT on May 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling).  High Wind Warning in effect until 3 am PDT Monday... 
21:25 bg           @wunder 93109
21:20 druthb       hi, rangi!
21:19 rangi        hi druthb
21:08 druthb       o/
21:03 cait         :)
21:01 rangi        hiya cait
21:00 cait         hi rangi
20:59 huginn`      rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 6.0�C (8:00 AM NZST on May 29, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
20:59 rangi        @wunder wellington nz
20:46 magnuse      googled a little and found this: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2010-November/026371.html (re changing the cart)
20:33 cait         you are on fire :)
20:32 cait         jcamins++
20:21 Soup         now to learn to add stuff to it :D
20:21 Soup         :)
20:21 jcamins      You're welcome.
20:20 Soup         thank you jcamins :)
20:18 Soup         will have to find out then
20:18 jcamins      But that's how it's done.
20:18 Soup         ok
20:18 jcamins      I don't know how to do it.
20:18 jcamins      Soup: with a combination of jQuery and CSS.
20:17 Soup         but really how can i change the "cart button" thats just wrong
20:17 Soup         :) the koha interface is pretty neat :D
20:13 Soup         :D this is awesome
20:10 Soup         just having it installed is good enough
20:10 Soup         not a problem for now
20:09 Soup         :)
20:09 jcamins      It's easy to install other languages, I just don't know how to run the installer in a language other than the one you chose at the beginning.
20:08 jcamins      Yes.
20:08 jcamins      I don't know how to do an installation in another language.
20:08 Soup         that is probably because thats the lang i said during the make install process
20:08 Soup         :D ok, now i can only choose english
20:08 jcamins      Yay!
20:07 Soup         :D
20:07 Soup         now i can continue the installation!
20:06 jcamins      You're welcome.
20:06 Soup         thanks jcamins :D
20:06 Soup         :D
20:06 Soup         XD
20:06 Soup         oh boy
20:05 jcamins      Create it now.
20:05 jcamins      It doesn't sound like it.
20:05 Soup         D:
20:05 Soup         but but i created it
20:05 Soup         error 1049: (42000): unknown database kohatest
20:04 jcamins      Did it work?
20:04 Soup         D:
20:03 Soup         trying
20:03 jcamins      (it will ask)
20:03 jcamins      Then you enter your password.
20:03 jcamins      mysql -ukoha -p kohatest
20:03 Soup         log in in from command line, ok how does one does that
20:02 jcamins      If you're not, then you'll need to correct the password. ;)
20:02 jcamins      Or, rather, if you are.
20:02 jcamins      If not, probably you have KOHA_CONF set wrong.
20:02 jcamins      Are you able to log in from the command line?
20:02 jcamins      Hm.
20:01 Soup         i did that
20:01 jcamins      Or you didn't set up the user.
20:01 jcamins      Looks like your password is wrong.
19:59 Soup         :(
19:59 Soup         http://paste.ubuntu.com/613333
19:53 Soup         ok
19:53 jcamins      Soup: don't worry about that.
19:52 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5868 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Subject indexes do not search most 6xx fields
19:52 jcamins      bug 5868
19:52 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6858 was not found.
19:52 jcamins      bug 6858
19:52 Soup         but i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/614291
19:46 Soup         this time i will use a database called kohatest instead of plain koha :D
19:46 Soup         ok, so will try to install koha again
19:04 cait         try tools > notices
19:01 bigbrovar    so am glad email notification now works after I installed and configured exim. only thing left is where to edit the signature of the emails sent. it says Thanyou, Koha Administrator  "kohaadmin"@yoursite.org  where can that be customized?
18:49 Oak          night
18:49 Oak          time to sleep
18:21 jcamins      That's what I thought, too.
18:19 cait         jcamins: sounds cool )
18:18 cait         :)
18:18 Oak          ah then computer science should not be issue for you...
18:18 jcamins      :D
18:18 jcamins      Speaking of courses, I learned that the college right near my house has a course on project management.
18:17 cait         not nothing I want to change :)
18:17 cait         I work full time on koha
18:16 cait         hehe
18:14 Oak          but you know what's best under your circumstances, so, i'll shut up.
18:13 Oak          at least that's my concept of distance education
18:11 Oak          studying from home can have a disadvantage... that there won't be any interaction with fellow students.
18:10 Oak          just kidding
18:09 Oak          :) and break things like your vacuum cleaner
18:08 cait         but I like to fix things... and build new things
18:08 cait         I hope so :)
18:06 Oak          a computer science degree will help a lot in your career library science
18:03 Oak          oh well, I love to read
18:03 cait         another symptom
18:02 Oak          um, :) the book was under my pillow...
18:02 cait         I feel like oyu are already a librarian
18:02 Oak          true, things like that need research... before committing yourself
18:02 cait         :)
18:00 Oak          "Obey That Impulse" by William Moulton Marston
18:00 Oak          "Thumb back over the pages of your experience and note how many of your happiest moments and greatest successes have followed spur-of-the-moment actions and decisions. They are reminders that only from the depths of your inner self can you hope for an invincible urge towards accomplishment. So, obey your best impulses and watch yourself go!"
17:57 Oak          let me quote something I was reading 2 days ago:
17:57 cait         will write them a mail with some questions
17:57 cait         not wrong, but things like that need some research
17:57 cait         hm
17:56 Oak          but to obey your impulse
17:55 Oak          hm, sometimes it is better to not think too much
17:54 cait         checking if there are some options now
17:54 cait         I am doing a bachelor now, started a longer time ago, but a master woul be better
17:54 cait         have to think more about it
17:54 cait         yeah
17:54 Oak          the one program you found, is it by a University in Germany?
17:53 Oak          oh good
17:53 cait         computer science
17:53 Oak          master program in what discipline?
17:52 cait         not so easy with a librarian degree to find something technical
17:52 cait         one program so far
17:52 Oak          what did you find
17:52 cait         yeah
17:51 Oak          distance education?
17:51 cait         I was researching for a master program yesterday..
17:49 Oak          bless you :)
17:49 cait         sounds like you will
17:47 Oak          cool, i want to be a librarian someday...
17:46 Oak          ah
17:46 cait         I have a bachelor, studied to be a librarian
17:46 cait         I think
17:46 cait         but education here is a little differnt
17:46 cait         Oak: yes I am
17:46 magnuse      jcamins: it is ;-)
17:45 jcamins      magnuse: That sounds really tasty.
17:45 Oak          ah, i want to learn to cook
17:45 * magnuse    has a plan: to make sirloin of reindeer for dinner
17:44 Oak          you are a librarian you said
17:43 Oak          3rd semester
17:43 Oak          well, I am doing MLIS, so
17:43 cait         and koha? :)
17:43 cait         cool
17:43 Oak          Joomla/CSS/HTML
17:43 cait         librarian
17:43 cait         ah
17:43 Oak          web developer
17:42 cait         what's your profession Oak?
17:41 Oak          not much though
17:39 Oak          that feels better
17:39 jcamins      But I can't say I have any particularly clear plans.
17:39 * jcamins    opts not to share his age.
17:39 cait         so if it's a bad thing... you are at least not alone in it
17:38 cait         hm, I am 28
17:37 Oak          i think it's bad if you are 29, no?
17:35 Oak          perhaps
17:35 cait         that's not so bad I think
17:34 Oak          i have no idea
17:33 cait         what about you?
17:33 cait         no :)
17:33 Oak          no 5 year plan then... ok
17:32 Oak          hm
17:32 cait         like house chores, distance study stuff.. such things
17:32 cait         nothing crazy
17:32 cait         more a list of things I should do in the next week, few days, next few waeeks
17:32 Oak          u
17:32 Oak          i hope i'm not bothering yo
17:32 cait         no, I would not go that far
17:31 Oak          like a things-to-do-in-life kind of list?
17:30 Oak          you have a todo list?
17:30 cait         as if my todo list wasn't long enough already
17:30 cait         but I hate having to deal with another thing
17:30 cait         yeah
17:30 Oak          no big deal, things break
17:29 cait         I think it was just bad luck
17:29 Oak          hm
17:29 cait         ah, it's from a discounter, but was tested very good
17:29 Oak          which company make?
17:28 cait         used it 4 times before it gave up on me :(
17:28 cait         yeah
17:27 Oak          oh fun
17:27 cait         if I am good I start on this accounting book and find out where to send my broken vaccuum cleaner
17:27 Oak          uh oh
17:27 cait         sunday... perhaps working on some personal projects
17:27 cait         um
17:26 Oak          any plan for tomorrow? it's Sunday!
17:26 * Oak        thinks that sounds funny
17:25 Oak          thinking I should get me a wife
17:25 Oak          listening to slow songs
17:25 Oak          same
17:25 cait         how is yours?
17:25 cait         having a lazy weekend
17:24 cait         not a lot
17:24 Oak          cait, what's new?
17:18 cait         hm
17:18 user22       well, I'm off to see my friend Wal Mart.
17:16 cait         but weekends are supposed to be spent with friends :)
17:15 cait         true :)
17:15 user22       but the weekend still. :)
17:09 cait         and it's not memorial day weekend in Germany
17:09 cait         :P
17:09 cait         or you could simply say we are addicted
17:08 cait         yeah
17:08 jcamins      Also, #koha is a favorite hangout even when we're not working.
17:07 user22       ah ic
17:05 jcamins      This week, Saturday-Monday.
17:05 * jcamins    works Saturday-Wednesday.
17:04 user22       what are all you people doing on chat on a memorial day weekend?
16:56 * jcamins    likes that. It's funny. :)
16:53 wahanui      okay, cait.
16:53 cait         jcamins is also awesome fixing broken email notifications
16:53 cait         hm, we need to make him forget about the sysprefs some time
16:53 wahanui      somebody said jcamins was supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas.
16:53 cait         jcamins?
16:48 jcamins      Yay!
16:47 cait         jcamins++
16:31 bigbrovar    jcamins_away: thanks I installed and configured exim and email notification now works :)
15:06 Oak          \o
13:49 bigbrovar    lol
13:48 jcamins      Or something that isn't carefully designed to make grown people weep.
13:48 bigbrovar    ok I will try Exim or postfix thanks
13:48 jcamins      Or Exim.
13:48 jcamins      I recommend using Postfix.
13:48 jcamins      Okay, that's the problem.
13:48 bigbrovar    http://paste.kde.org/75817
13:47 bigbrovar    got this ? 451 4.3.0 Temporary system failure. Please try again later
13:47 jcamins      If it doesn't, you're on your own, but at least you know the problem is that the mail server is misconfigured.
13:47 jcamins      If it does, I'm out of ideas.
13:47 jcamins      Does that work?
13:46 jcamins      .
13:46 jcamins      This is a test message
13:46 jcamins      Subject: Test
13:46 jcamins      To: <me@emailserver.com>
13:46 jcamins      From: <me@emailserver.com>
13:46 jcamins      DATA
13:46 jcamins      RCPT TO:<me@emailserver.com>
13:45 jcamins      MAIL FROM:<me@emailserver.com>
13:45 jcamins      EHLO bigbrovar
13:45 jcamins      telnet localhost 25
13:45 jcamins      Run the following command:
13:45 jcamins      I know what the problem is.
13:45 jcamins      Wait.
13:45 jcamins      With Postfix it just works.
13:45 bigbrovar    I wish there was a doc to check on how to configure email notification on koha, cus as I said sending them manually works on the koha server using  echo "test" | sendmail me@emailserver.com
13:43 jcamins      Okay, I'm going to go with "never worked," then.
13:43 bigbrovar    jcamins: well our koha instance is has not been deployed so I never really tested it in 3.2 tbh.
13:42 jcamins      None.
13:42 bigbrovar    any ideas which error log to check? or could this be a bug?
13:42 jcamins      bigbrovar: did it work with 3.2?
13:42 bigbrovar    jcamins: I upgraded from koha 3.2 to 3.4.1 and so far so good the upgrade has been smooth as butter. I decided to test things out to see if anyhing is broken. which was why I checked the mail.
13:41 jcamins      I don't have anything to do with administering e-mail on our servers.
13:40 jcamins      bigbrovar: I'm out of ideas.
13:40 bigbrovar    jcamins: I ran this "/usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl" manually and still when I checked the status it said pending.
13:32 magnuse      bbl
13:13 jcamins      bigbrovar: if the status is listed as pending, that means Koha hasn't even tried to send the messages, so probably your cronjobs aren't running.
13:10 cait         have you edited the file?
13:08 cait         no, it doesn't
13:03 jcamins      Manually update a pm? That doesn't sound right at all.
13:03 jcamins      bigbrovar: try manually running process_message_queue.
13:03 bigbrovar    for what its worth*
13:03 bigbrovar    for what its work under message status in phpmyadmin it reads as pending (under the default )
13:01 bigbrovar    read somewhere I have to also edit /usr/share/perl5/Mail/Sendmail.pm with my smtp parameters, is this true?
13:00 jcamins      bigbrovar: hm.
13:00 bigbrovar    set it to send email to the home email
13:00 bigbrovar    jcamins: I have it enabled under systempreference/patron
12:56 cait         and add a password
12:56 cait         yep
12:56 jcamins      bigbrovar: you have to enable that.
12:56 cait         the status column
12:55 bigbrovar    a new koha account user should receive email notification right? I just created a test account and still haven't gotten any email regarding that
12:53 bigbrovar    cait: am sorry please how do check the status in message_queue table? am on phpmyadmin page now and checking the message_queue but don't know what to lookout for
12:50 bigbrovar    cait: let me check
12:46 bigbrovar    echo "test" | sendmail me@example.com works though on the koha server
12:46 cait         what's the status of the messages in cour message_queue table?
12:46 bigbrovar    jcamins: well notification is not working. cait: yes I have the cronjobs schuduled
12:45 cait         bigbrovar: have you scheduled the cronjobs?
12:44 jcamins      bigbrovar: that should be it.
12:44 bigbrovar    magnuse: jcamins: Hi guys :)
12:43 jcamins      Hi, magnuse and bigbrovar!
12:43 magnuse      hiya jcamins and bigbrovar
12:43 magnuse      cait: sorry, running to and from. bod� isn't too shabby today - the sun is almost shining and the temperature is very pleasant. been out shopping, should start working...
12:42 bigbrovar    Hi guys, I am trying to get email notification to koha to work. I have a working MTA on the koha server working using esmtp . I am able to send mails to myself from the server. anything else I should do?
12:35 jcamins      Good morning.
12:29 cait         hi jcamins :)
12:27 jcamins      Still better than here.
12:27 huginn`      jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 21.8�C (8:30 AM EDT on May 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady).
12:27 jcamins      @wunder 11375
12:27 jcamins      Aww.
12:27 huginn`      jcamins: The current temperature in Budapest / Lorinc, Hungary is 18.0�C (2:00 PM CEST on May 28, 2011). Conditions: Light Thunderstorm. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
12:27 jcamins      @wunder Budapest
12:26 huginn`      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.0�C (2:30 PM CEST on May 28, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
12:26 cait         @wunder Konstanz
12:26 cait         I was looking for your subjective view :)
12:26 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0�C (2:20 PM CEST on May 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Rising).
12:26 magnuse      @wunder boo
12:04 cait         how is bode today?
12:03 magnuse      guten tag cait
12:03 cait         hi magnuse :)
12:00 magnuse      kia ora #koha
09:28 NurAhammad   hi everybody.
08:38 cait         rangi++
08:38 cait         busy rangi
08:23 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: BUG6091 Remove undeclared syspref OPACAdvSearchInputCount
08:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #265: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/265/
08:17 cait         morning #koha
07:41 jenkins_koha Starting build 265 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:41 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6342 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Help link doesn't popup anymore contextual help page
07:41 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Add entries so Z39.50 public server works
07:41 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 6342 Help link doesn't popup anymore contextual help page
07:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #264: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/264/
07:34 bigbrovar    bg: I have configured esmtp and was able to send mail to myself. u said I dont need to change any thing in " /usr/share/perl5/Mail/Sendmail.pm" ?
07:21 glernil      hi #koha
07:17 huginn`      New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6411] add robots.txt file to allow good indexing, yet prevent searchbot thrashing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6411>
07:11 bigbrovar    oh ok.. yeah I saw somewhere http://ur1.ca/4am14 that I need to add my smpt parameters to " /usr/share/perl5/Mail/Sendmail.pm"
07:10 bg           basically you want to set your config files only
07:10 bg           you shouldn't need to edit that
07:10 bigbrovar    ok so once that is set up I would also edit " /usr/share/perl5/Mail/Sendmail.pm" ?
07:09 bg           ummm..  I think you need to search on how to set up an email server for your linux box
07:09 bigbrovar    from what I read I could use any mta from postfix to sendmail or nullmail
07:08 bigbrovar    I need to configure an MTA for the koha server and also edit " /usr/share/perl5/Mail/Sendmail.pm" ?
07:08 bigbrovar    ok how does the whole email notification thing work with koha?
07:08 bigbrovar    are there in other
07:07 bg           sorry I don't know nullmailer
07:07 bigbrovar    bg: btw did u see the config I pastebin?
07:07 bigbrovar    hmm how do I do that with nullmailer?
07:06 bigbrovar    thing is our koha is not yet in use so I am just testing to be sure evrything works before launch
07:06 bg           have you tried emailing yourself from the command line?
07:06 bg           yeah like sending carts and stuff
07:06 bigbrovar    hmm nope, but I read while googling that email notification should work even when a crob is not set
07:05 bg           bigbrovar: do you have a cronjob set for it?
07:04 bigbrovar    is there a good doc that covers configuration of email notification for koha?
07:03 bigbrovar    I observed that in " /usr/share/perl5/Mail/Sendmail.pm" under the mail config there is no way to add authentication details for smtp.
07:03 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: BUG6091 Remove undeclared syspref OPACAdvSearchInputCount <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8f5bf93f962ae21c2bddf32832a511d9e778e12> / Add entries so Z39.50 public server works <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4b445818f46e59cf62f968f219963c132832c2b> / Bug 6342 Help link doesn't popup anymore contextual help page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=com
07:02 bigbrovar    but still cant get mail notification to work
07:02 bg           you'll get to see the best dog beach ever though rangi
07:02 wahanui      Hmm.  No matches for that, bigbrovar.
07:02 bigbrovar    Hi guys, I am trying to get email notification to work with koha3.4.1 nullmail is configured as thus http://paste.kde.org/75655 and /usr/share/perl5/Mail/Sendmail.pm is configured thus  http://paste.kde.org/75661/
07:02 bg           yeah looks pretty cool - on a beach :)
07:00 rangi        eythian is off there the day i get back from ALA
06:59 rangi        ?
06:59 rangi        did you see the malaysian open source conference
06:59 rangi        :)
06:58 jenkins_koha Starting build 264 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:58 * bg         saw somethings being pushed so I figured you'd be up :)
06:55 rangi        heya bg
06:53 bg           heya rangi
06:47 rangi        make sure you get some digs in about the cloud and MS seeings they are on the bill also :)
06:45 wahanui      I haven't seen 'this', rangi
06:45 rangi        eythian: seen this? http://www.mosc.my/
03:36 sekjal       night, all
03:36 sekjal       time for bed
03:36 * sekjal     faceplants onto the desk.
03:18 Brooke       raiding on and off, and there are the doublemint twins of suck pally fame.
03:18 wahanui      que tal, Brooke
03:18 Brooke       hey hey
03:17 sekjal       what's up?
03:17 sekjal       pianohacker: not for much longer... nearly dead for the night
03:16 pianohacker  hi Brooke
03:16 pianohacker  sekjal: around?
03:00 Brooke       kia ora
02:35 sekjal       gladly
02:34 glernil      sekjal: tnx!
02:34 sekjal       glernil:  yes, on the command line before executing the script
02:30 glernil      sekjal: how should i do that? in the terminal?
02:30 wizzyrea     hiya
02:30 druthb       o/
02:12 sekjal       which for your install type should be:  export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib
02:11 sekjal       glernil:  you need to export your PERL5LIB
02:00 glernil      BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6.
02:00 glernil      Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6.
02:00 glernil      anyone knows what this error means?
00:10 huginn`      yhager: The current temperature in Castlegar, British Columbia is 12.0�C (5:00 PM PDT on May 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
00:10 yhager       @wunder ycg
00:02 pianohacker  see you later