Time Nick Message 02:53 danmc anyone up on koha_perl_deps.pl debugging? It is claiming 3 of my modules are at a current version of "0" when I don't think they are. Is there perhaps any sort of a debug log created? 02:54 jcamins_away danmc: I don't know much about it, but which modules? 02:56 danmc MARC::Charset, MARC::File::XML, Schedule::At 02:56 jcamins_away Ooh. 02:56 jcamins_away You don't need the latter, but you do need the other two. 02:56 jcamins_away What OS? 02:56 danmc NetBSD 02:57 danmc working on getting koha into pkgsrc (the system NetBSD uses for 3rd party apps) 02:57 * jcamins_away spent a while working on a FreeBSD port. 02:57 jcamins_away Check that you don't have two versions of Perl? 02:57 danmc ok, so you know the drill of trying to compile the big list of perl module dependencies 02:57 jcamins_away Yep. 02:58 danmc perl-5.12.2 is the only one I have installed 02:58 jcamins_away Okay, just checking. 02:58 danmc I should look, is there a working koha port in freebsd ports? 02:58 jcamins_away _That_ particular issue tripped me up... many times. 02:58 jcamins_away Nope. 02:58 jcamins_away Lemme see if I still have my Makefile. 02:59 danmc I had briefly looked at koha ages (8 yrs) ago and then more recently started digging into a PR someone submited with a slightly out of date version. 02:59 jcamins_away No help there. 02:59 jcamins_away (my Makefile... it wasn't written yet. 03:00 danmc ah. 03:00 jcamins_away Let's see... 03:00 jcamins_away You know that MARC::File and MARC::File::XML are completely different, right? 03:00 jcamins_away MARC::Charset should be p5-MARC-Charset. 03:01 jcamins_away Under textproc, maybe? 03:01 danmc yep. I have p5-MARC-Charset and p5-MARC-XML 03:01 danmc the XML one has /usr/pkg/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.0/MARC/File/XML.pm 03:01 jcamins_away Hm. 03:02 jcamins_away vendor_perl? Is that a proper NetBSD thing? 03:02 jcamins_away That doesn't look right to me, from my experience with FreeBSD. 03:02 danmc good question. I generally shy away from working on the perl module pkgs 03:03 danmc seems to be that way on the ones I'm spot checking 03:03 jcamins_away Okay, just checking. 03:05 jcamins_away What version of p5-MARC-XML do you have? 03:05 danmc actually, it claims Schedule::At is required. I may have to suck it up and try to figure out out the koha_perl_deps.pl program actually works. 03:05 danmc I have 0.92 of p5-MARC-XML 03:06 jcamins_away Schedule::At is definitely not required. 03:06 jcamins_away That functionality does not work. 03:07 jcamins_away What version of Koha are you working with? 03:08 jcamins_away Copy the output of koha_perl_deps.pl into paste.koha-community.org? 03:08 danmc 3.04.00 03:09 jcamins_away Okay, that's good. 03:10 pastebot "danmc" at 24.98.165.232 pasted "koha_perl_deps.pl output" (118 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/54 03:12 jcamins_away Hm. 03:13 jcamins_away I have no idea how C4::Installer::PerlModules works. 03:13 danmc yeah, me neither. Seems to be a koha specific module. 03:13 jcamins_away Definitely Koha specific. 03:13 jcamins_away Also completely opaque. 03:19 danmc so it's not just me being dumb 03:19 jcamins_away No. 03:19 jcamins_away Definitely not. 03:20 jcamins_away The person to talk to is chris_n. 03:20 jcamins_away Unfortunately, it's 11:23pm on Friday where he is. 03:20 danmc lol 03:20 danmc Unfortunately is is also 11:23pm on Friday where I am too ;) 03:21 jcamins_away Where I am, too. 03:24 danmc are you a casual user or do you use koha for a job? 03:24 jcamins_away The latter. 03:24 jcamins_away I'm the Lead Support Specialist for ByWater Solutions. 03:25 jcamins_away We use Debian exclusively. 03:25 jcamins_away Or, at least, as exclusively as we can. 03:27 danmc with the rather long list of dependencies, I can see wanting to stick to one OS distribution. 03:28 jcamins_away Yeah. Especially since Catalyst has super-slick packages. 04:06 danmc ah. C4::Installer aside, it seems those few perl modules are broken. 04:09 pastebot "danmc" at 24.98.165.232 pasted "broken perl modules" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/55 04:09 danmc I suspect if I fix that issue then koha_perl_deps.pl will become happy. 04:31 pianohacker hola 04:32 pianohacker anyone around for a bit of lazyweb? 04:34 pianohacker actually, maybe: rangi? 05:12 kmkale Namaskar #koha 08:08 cait hi #koha 10:10 cait @wunder Konstanz 10:10 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0�C (12:00 PM CEST on May 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 10:52 druthb o/ 10:52 cait morning druthb :) 10:52 druthb hi. :) 10:52 * cait puts a big bowl of strawberries in the middle of #koha 10:53 * druthb takes one and nibbles on it. 10:55 cait are you not scared I am trying to poison you? ;) 10:55 * cait remembers the cookie incident 10:59 druthb nope. 11:00 cait k 11:30 jcamins Good morning, #koha. 11:32 druthb Hi, jcamins! 11:56 cait hi jcamins 11:57 jcamins Hi cait. 12:22 druthb Hi, magnuse! :) 12:23 cait hi magnuse :) 12:23 magnuse kia ora druthb and cait and #koha 12:24 magnuse anyone else tried wizzyreas patch for bug 6258? 12:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6258 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Guided reports wizard 'Build new' brings up empty page 12:24 magnuse i get "fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (reports/guided_reports.pl)." 12:27 jcamins What arguments are you using? 12:27 magnuse git am -i3u 12:28 jcamins Okay, no idea, then. 12:28 magnuse hm, guess i have to mark it does not apply, then 12:35 cait and it does not finish? 12:35 cait hm, fatal 12:35 cait probably not 12:38 magnuse nope, it suggeste git am --resolved/skip/abort 12:38 magnuse the first patch applies nicely though 12:41 cait ah 12:41 cait and solving the conflict? 12:41 cait it's only a one liner 12:44 magnuse it's not really a conflict, it's "sha1 information is lacking or useless" 12:45 magnuse i could do what she did and create a new patch, but wouldn't want to appear to steal her fix or something... 12:46 cait yeah :( 12:46 cait she had some problems with her git branch 12:46 cait probably somethng went wrong 12:46 magnuse yeah, looks like it 13:56 jcamins search faq? 13:56 wahanui search faq is, like, at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 14:40 bg pancakes? 14:40 wahanui pancakes are always good 14:40 bg recipe for pancakes? 14:41 * druthb pokes her BEST BOSS EVAR in the ribs. 14:41 druthb wahanui: recipe for pancakes? 14:41 wahanui i heard recipe for pancakes was at http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/good-old-fashioned-pancakes/Detail.aspx 14:43 bg I'm thinking about this one http://www.sugarlaws.com/cinnamon-pancakes 14:44 druthb oooo. teh yum. 14:44 jcamins Coconut curry chocolate chip cookies are at http://www.cookiemadness.net/2009/05/curry-coconut-oatmeal-chocolate-chip-cookies/ 14:44 druthb wahanui: recipe for pancakes is also at http://www.sugarlaws.com/cinnamon-pancakes 14:44 wahanui okay, druthb. 14:45 druthb wahanui: druthb? 14:45 wahanui druthb: bugger all, i dunno 14:45 druthb wahanui: Brooke? 14:45 wahanui Brooke is deprecated 14:45 druthb lol 14:45 bg heh 14:45 bg druthb? 14:46 druthb wahanui: druthb is blogging irregularly at http://librarygeekgirl.net 14:46 wahanui OK, druthb. 14:46 bg wahanui: jcamins? 14:46 wahanui well, jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. 14:46 bg wahanui: druthb? 14:46 wahanui druthb is blogging irregularly at http://librarygeekgirl.net 14:46 * druthb blinks. 14:46 bg :D 14:46 druthb wahanui: bg? 14:46 wahanui [1]+ infobot & 14:46 druthb wahanui brendan? 14:46 wahanui somebody said brendan was with his family 14:48 druthb wahanui: bg? 14:48 wahanui hmmm... bg is the awesomest boss....no, really, I mean it. 15:24 Oak \o 15:24 cait hi Oak 15:25 Oak hello Ms. cait :) 15:25 cait :) 15:25 Oak see, i remembered 15:26 druthb Hi, Oak! :) 15:26 Oak hiya druthb, how are you today? :) 15:26 druthb Doing well! :) 15:26 Oak good 15:27 * Oak is reading Stranger in a Strange Land 15:28 druthb I haven't read any Heinlein in years and years. 15:29 Oak what was your last book druthb ? 15:30 druthb Hm... I enjoyed Heinlein's YA stories a *lot*...they stayed clear of his somewhat strange politics, and his...erm...strange views on sex and sexuality. I think the last one I read, about two or three years ago, was "Orphans of the Sky." 15:32 druthb Being a transgendered person, I somewhat get the themes of "I Will Fear No Evil," though Heinlein's oddities are clear there...he *didn't* get it, but he was willing to talk about it, at a time when a lot of authors were not. 15:33 Oak err, i don't know much about his views. this is his first book i'm reading... normally I prefer reading books by Hardy, Austen, Tolstoy, Charlotte Bront�, Hemingway again and again 15:34 Oak i mean i've read Far From the Madding Crowd many times but if I pick it up again i won't be bored one bit 15:35 druthb :) Heinlein had some interesting views on political structure; he favored democracy, but with a somewhat socialist bent. His notions on human sexuality were ...somewhat freewheeling. In this country, the term for such as he is "dirty old man". 15:37 druthb That said (and it sounds negative, but isn't, really...or not too much), he did spin some good stories. "Stranger" is good, but my favorites are "Friday" and "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress." 15:37 Oak hmm 15:40 druthb He had a lot of interesting ideas, given the context he was writing in...and history has shown him to be at-best partly correct about some of his assumptions of where things were headed. Good stories, but don't get to thinkin' he was right about things, too much. 15:40 * Oak hides Heinlein's book under the mattress 15:41 * druthb raises an eyebrow 15:41 Oak :) 15:42 * druthb used to read a lot more sci-fi than she does, these days. 15:42 druthb Lately, my science reading is non-fiction ("Perl Best Practices"...) and my fiction reading is non-science (cheap romance novels. :P ) 15:43 Oak hehe 15:46 * jcamins just read half of The Mysterious Flame of Queen Loana. 15:46 * jcamins feels rather betrayed. It started out so well, then suddenly, he's in a coma and his memory is restored. 15:47 * cait hides 15:49 * Oak goes to find something to eat 15:52 * jcamins stirs his garlic flatbread dough. 15:59 cait hmm 15:59 cait sounds yummy 16:00 jcamins It's not going to be as good as the lavash we're going to eat in Budapest, but it should be pretty tasty. 16:03 cait hehe 16:32 druthb goof_resistant_cookery++ 17:54 jcamins food++ 18:00 cait jcamins++ for incredible delicious sounding descriptions of food :) 20:17 cait hi magnuse :) 20:18 magnuse hiya cait and #koha 21:47 library_systems_guy I have a design question if anybody is working this weekend 21:47 library_systems_guy Why do all of the body of the koha pages span the entire page instead of allowing dynamic sizing easily 21:51 library_systems_guy also would anybody be interested in me adding a navigation bar under the header? 21:52 magnuse library_systems_guy: sounds like you should have a chat with oleonard when he is around ;-) 21:53 library_systems_guy haha ill have to catch him on monday. I added navigation for our page but i am afraid to commit it since im the new guy. 21:54 magnuse well there's no harming in sending a patch 21:54 magnuse it's a good starting point for a discussion 21:54 library_systems_guy thats true, and I seem to start quite a few of those :p 21:56 magnuse good! ;-) 21:57 library_systems_guy so is oleonard the guy that does a lot of the display stuff? 22:00 magnuse library_systems_guy, yep, he's the web ui guru :-) 22:04 library_systems_guy ok I'll attack him when he gets back on 22:05 magnuse hehe 22:09 magnuse library_systems_guy, are you adding navigation bar to the opac? 22:09 library_systems_guy yes 22:09 library_systems_guy i was just going to use the breadcrumb but i noticed that it was in use in several places 22:10 magnuse hm 22:11 library_systems_guy i've actually done quite a bit of re-arranging of elements in the opac header to maybe make it easier to edit 22:13 magnuse souonds interesting 22:13 library_systems_guy yeah I guess we'll see what oleonard thinks 22:13 magnuse i think having a layout that can easily be altered with css is A Good Thing :-) 22:13 magnuse have you got a public opac that has your changes? 22:14 library_systems_guy umm this one isn't public but i can send you a screenshot if you'd like 22:14 magnuse cait++ 22:14 magnuse for signing off on lots of patches 22:14 library_systems_guy w00t cait 22:15 magnuse library_systems_guy, that would be cool 22:18 library_systems_guy give me one sec to upload it to m site and ill get you a link 22:19 library_systems_guy http://library.uttyler.edu/Koha.png 22:19 magnuse cool 22:19 library_systems_guy keep in mind i just started this yesterday 22:19 library_systems_guy so it still needs a lot of work 22:19 library_systems_guy lol 22:21 library_guy closed the wrong window oops 22:22 magnuse hehe 22:22 magnuse that looks cool 22:22 library_guy thanks 22:22 library_guy ill see if i can have a public link available before i talk to oleonard 22:22 magnuse always interesting to see how folks are changing the look of the opac 22:23 magnuse i'm sure he'll be intersted to have a look 22:25 library_guy indeed...I keep trying to see who else has the koha opac pretty customized 22:27 magnuse i was thinking we could have a page on the wiki that listed customized opacs, but havn't gotten around to starting one yet 22:27 library_guy well yesterday we were talking about easier ways to theme the opac 22:27 library_guy using SOPAC is rather complicated 22:28 magnuse ooh, goody 22:28 magnuse yeah, any "alternative interface" will probably be some work 22:30 library_guy yeah exactly, have you ever used drupal or wordpress? 22:32 magnuse yup 22:33 library_guy i was hoping for some theming like those systems implement 22:34 magnuse having themes like them would be cool, but i cant really see enough people having enough time to implement it 22:34 magnuse it might require some work on abstraction first, so underlying things could change without every theme needing an update 22:35 library_guy yeah abstraction would be key 22:35 library_guy so I don't really see it happening anytime soon 22:35 magnuse and there is quite a lot that can be done with css and jquery 22:36 magnuse but hey, it's good to have some lofty goals too :-) 22:36 library_guy yes, that is how i started doing stuff 22:37 library_guy well i guess technically you could change everything from jquery if it has an id or some way to traverse to it 22:38 magnuse yeah, pretty much 22:38 magnuse but that's more for quick hacks than for doing major mods, i think... 22:39 library_guy yes exactly...oh the hax 22:44 library_guy good talking to you magnuse, im taking my girlfriend out to dinner so ill ttyl 22:45 magnuse good plan! 22:45 magnuse see ya! 22:58 magnuse o/ 22:59 druthb Hi, magnus! 22:59 magnuse hiya druthb 23:11 magnuse g'night #koha