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22:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6131 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , (unimarc only) improper index name for personal-name
22:41 jenkins_koha Alex Arnaud: Bug #6131 - change index "Author-name-personal" for "Personal-name"
22:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #252: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/252/
22:00 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug #6131 - change index "Author-name-personal" for "Personal-name" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7006eebd6eb234901e2397f289444b7024d0e16b>
21:58 jenkins_koha Starting build 252 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
21:47 druthb :D
21:46 * Space_Librarian waves to druthb
21:45 rangi 99, dont let it get over 100 again, low mark is 95 :)
21:44 * druthb waves to Space_Librarian.
21:37 cait bye all
21:35 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6347] Bug in opac-reserve.pl stopping item level holds <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6347>
21:16 Space_Librarian evening cait! :)
21:12 cait good morning Space_Librarian :)
20:28 rhcl In Greek mythology, a harpy ("snatcher", from Latin: harpeia, originating in Greek: á¼…Ïπυια, harpÅ«ia) was one of the winged spirits best known for constantly stealing tree sweets from Phineas.
20:27 ibeardslee or the dodgy curry from last night?
20:27 pianohacker then it'll all go to hell
20:27 pianohacker pretty soon someone will bring up haarp
20:27 pianohacker all these links
20:26 wizzyrea plus conifer... evergreen... syrup
20:26 wizzyrea the google fu is strong with this one
20:26 wizzyrea because he is awesome like that
20:23 pianohacker how on earth did you find that?
20:23 pianohacker wow, gmcharlt++
20:23 gmcharlt have some syrup: http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS-Contrib/browser/servres/trunk/conifer/syrup
20:18 oleonard quit
20:18 * oleonard throws in the towel
20:18 wizzyrea syrup from conifers = sap = amber
20:16 sekjal google indicates you can do something with green juniper twigs...
20:16 oleonard I'll bet syrup from a conifer would be nasty
20:16 oleonard I was wondering that the other day, are there other kinds of syrup from trees?
20:15 sekjal yeah... and can you get good syrup from conifers?
20:14 oleonard But not mentioned on that page
20:14 sekjal http://projectconifer.ca/
20:14 sekjal rangi: it's a subproject of Project Conifer
20:13 rangi bbiab
20:13 rangi anyone wanna google that and see if its free software?
20:12 rangi syrup course reserves
19:58 rangi oleonard++
19:57 rangi it may implement this already, then we have a candidate for another module under Koha::
19:57 Brooke It will allow me to revert to my hermity ways.
19:57 cait what was that about the guilt?
19:57 Brooke I am not pissed that you're abandoning me.
19:57 druthb see?
19:57 cait lol
19:56 wizzyrea ooh, look at that... it's a shopping blue whale!
19:56 rangi u should also check out dbix::class
19:56 druthb she might; she is greatly pissed at me over this whole moving-out-of-DC thing...
19:56 cait make you see weird colorful things... perhaps. but no poison.
19:56 cait I don't think Brooke would poison you
19:56 sekjal rangi: we'd definitely want to make sure the paging subroutine was internal-only, and only used by other subroutines that are well-behaved
19:56 wizzyrea :)
19:55 * druthb watches wizzyrea closely, cell phone ready to call 911.
19:55 * wizzyrea gives it back to druthb
19:55 * Brooke cheers at wizzyrea.
19:55 * wizzyrea snatches the cookie, sniffs it, takes a nibble... deems it ok
19:55 cait sorry Brooke... but youknow
19:55 * Brooke comforts cait.
19:55 cait if you eat THAT cookie, you have a problem
19:55 * cait sighs
19:54 * druthb is careful with this one.
19:54 * Brooke hands druthb a cookie.
19:53 Brooke Western Law got rid of guilt by association YEARS ago :P
19:53 * druthb pouts and cries.
19:53 Brooke hey hey
19:53 cait give themto rangi instead
19:52 cait :P
19:52 cait druthb: ok, I will take you off the cookie list
19:52 druthb I say again: I trust you, cait. But you're associating with a dangerous element there...
19:52 rangi heh course I trust cait
19:51 cait I was testing... wanted to know if rangi is trusting me ... *glares at druthb*
19:51 rangi so will need to check that
19:51 rangi it will kill performance if its the wrong query
19:51 cait ?
19:50 Brooke cait, the users you share your cookies with are bugged.
19:50 rangi yep
19:50 sekjal then sth->execute($query, $offset, $limit)
19:50 sekjal SELECT * FROM ( ? ) LIMIT ?, ?
19:49 rangi dont do it with anything stored or mysql specific is the main thing
19:49 sekjal so, the subroutine I'm envisioning would take a query, use it as the FROM table for another query that adds the limit
19:49 cait rangi: did you eat the cookie?
19:49 sekjal yes
19:49 rangi you can do it with a subselect
19:48 rangi must be group by then
19:48 sekjal there's a bug report for this behavior with patron searching, as I recall
19:48 sekjal rangi: reading the MySQL docs, only the first <LIMIT> records found are sorted
19:47 rangi and im pretty sure limit is applied after order by
19:47 rangi sekjal: if u were to do it server side good time to add ajax
19:47 * cait gives rangi a cookie
19:47 cait hi rangi
19:46 rangi back
19:44 * Brooke shakes a fist at a cloud.
19:44 Brooke didn't know it was my infernal slowness.
19:44 Brooke always knew that
19:44 * Brooke is damned.
19:43 wizzyrea rather, slowness be damned
19:43 sekjal "see all" would be easy to add
19:43 sekjal (the current problem being that LIMIT clauses terminate the query before the entire result set is sorted)
19:43 wizzyrea (with an option to "see all" damn the slowness?)
19:42 sekjal I think I could do a server-side, MySQL based paging subroutine that preserves sorting...
19:41 wizzyrea + that's very slow to load
19:41 sekjal cait: mmm, good point
19:41 wizzyrea i'm not a fan of paging when it loads everything but only shows you some of it
19:41 Brooke 0/
19:41 cait I find it more onfusing than helful and you can't ctrl+f to find something
19:40 cait sekjal: I am not a big fan of paging
19:40 sekjal it would take in the query and the start/end pages, and return a new query built to do that
19:40 sekjal I think I could write a general-purpose paging subroutine, to use with any query...
19:39 wizzyrea that would be a benefit
19:39 sekjal and we wouldn't have to worry about overloading the system if a patron has too many checkouts at once
19:39 wizzyrea performance?
19:39 sekjal how about paging the checkout list? then the buttons would always be at known distance down the page
19:37 sekjal the browser compatibility issues would be a nightmare, for sure
19:36 * druthb will project sekjal from the pigeons. Shotgun loaded and ready.
19:36 oleonard I've never seen an implementation that worked well
19:35 SteveJ Floating buttons are today's equivalent of the <blink> tag, and anyone suggesting their use should be set upon by a flock of hungry pidgeons.
19:35 oleonard sekjal: Which track the page scroll?
19:34 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`.
19:34 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
19:34 wizzyrea @quote get 123
19:34 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
19:34 wizzyrea @quote get 23
19:34 sekjal what about making buttons like that "float" in a div at the bottom?
19:34 wizzyrea lets just say, it makes my head hurt to think about it.
19:33 wizzyrea so at that point
19:33 wizzyrea and it could vary from computer to computer within a single library
19:33 * wizzyrea is in a public library system, and nothing is certain resolution wise, anywhere.
19:31 SteveJ Ex: I know everyone using our catalog is at 1280x1024 and can set it accordingly. An elementary school library might have all theirs set on 800x600 and want it tweaked slightly different.
19:31 wizzyrea depending on where the table is on the page, the resolution of the viewer
19:31 * cait things Brooke picking on her brain explains the weird concentration problems she had lately
19:31 wizzyrea and depending on the interface, the number of lines could be different
19:31 cait i can see why someone might want that, but I see the bug report coming too ;)
19:30 cait having it everywhere... disputable
19:30 sekjal then surely one library would want X for one instance, and Y for another
19:30 cait that's the problem i see too - if we have that only on one page it seems kind of weird
19:30 cait yes
19:30 sekjal if we made the one syspref apply to all lists with bulk actions on them....
19:30 cait hm
19:29 SteveJ oleonard : I think that depends on how widely it is implemented. There are likely a number of pages where this could be applied *shrug*
19:29 wizzyrea I agree with oleonard
19:29 oleonard Sounds like too minor an item for a preference.
19:29 * sekjal complexity overload
19:29 SteveJ eep
19:29 sekjal egad
19:29 sekjal but what about making it a User Preference?
19:28 sekjal I meant administrator controllable
19:28 sekjal oh, right
19:28 SteveJ user controllable or administrator controllable?
19:28 sekjal yes, it should be user-controllable... but then we get YASP
19:27 SteveJ It needs to be a consistent number such as 20, and have that variable be something set in the preferences globally
19:27 sekjal my guess would be for x to be between 6 and 10
19:27 sekjal SteveJ: I was thinking just that
19:27 Brooke I'm picking Cait's larger brain.
19:27 * wizzyrea thinks to set the resolution to 800x600, see how many lines, then ^
19:26 SteveJ Have the second set display only if items > x?
19:26 * oleonard struggles with that question sekjal
19:26 sekjal It's trivial to add the second set of buttons, but I'm wondering if it's suitably aesthetic for short lists of items...
19:26 wizzyrea so it's framework dependent then
19:26 * wizzyrea facepalms
19:25 * druthb wonders what cait and Brooke are up to.
19:25 wizzyrea oh I see, it's the 952q
19:25 Brooke what if I'm antisocial instead of crabby? or is that still crabby?
19:25 sekjal anyone have an opinion on adding a second set of "Renew Selected" and "Renew All" to the OPAC account summary page? They're currently just at the bottom of the table, which could be quite a long way down if there are many current checkouts
19:25 * oleonard buys 10 shares of catalogers projected to be crabby in mid-2011
19:25 oleonard Cataloging futures eh?
19:24 * wizzyrea pouts
19:24 oleonard wizzyrea: You didn't think it was going to be easy did you? ;)
19:24 Brooke http://www.catalogingfutures.com/ btw.
19:23 wizzyrea aha
19:23 cait ;)
19:23 cait bib... marc...framew..
19:23 oleonard wizzyrea: MARC framework I think
19:23 cait bmf
19:23 * cait hides
19:23 cait I know
19:23 cait oh
19:23 cait mm yummy
19:22 wizzyrea all right, I give up. Where are the headers for the items tables pulled from?
19:22 * cait takes the cookie out of your hands and eats it
19:22 Brooke you're more paranoid than me, dear :P
19:22 Brooke It's one of CAIT's Cookies
19:22 druthb no, but she's been at it a while.
19:22 cait so you think I am easy to influence?
19:21 druthb I trust you, cait. But Brooke is possibly a bad influence.
19:21 * cait sniffs
19:21 cait druthb:not trusting me?
19:21 druthb hm.... reminds me of this billboard, which I saw in Baltimore over the weekend: http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/3316/ratherjpegprv.jpg
19:19 SteveJ I think of interns as being more like guinea pigs or crash test dummies rather than lab rats.
19:17 oleonard druthb it's rude to call interns lab rats. They're people too.
19:17 druthb Do I dare eat it, or should I feed it to a lab rat first?
19:16 * druthb takes the cookie.
19:16 * cait gives druthb a cookie
19:16 cait hehe
19:15 * druthb has the eerie feeling she is being conspired against.
19:11 druthb hm?
19:10 Brooke what what what?!
19:10 wahanui cait: i'm not following you...
19:10 cait wahanui - no cookies for you today!
19:10 cait not it works
19:10 cait ah
19:10 wahanui hmmm... Brooke is in biiiiiig trouble.
19:10 cait druthb: Brooke?
19:08 Brooke >:)
19:07 * druthb waves to Brooke.
19:05 cait Ropuch: that's right
19:03 Brooke :)
19:03 hdl hi Brooke
19:01 Ropuch *the one*
19:01 Ropuch So now Frederic is the to bother about pootle permissions?
19:00 * Brooke waves to hdl
19:00 cait rangi: probably the living room is happier now too ;)
18:59 Ropuch Hi Chris [;
18:58 * rangi goes to get the kids breakfast
18:58 rangi yep its much better now pootle doesnt live in my living room anymore
18:56 cait :)
18:55 Ropuch Yup, 4 lines python script ;>
18:55 cait that sounds quite cool!
18:55 Ropuch And after little scripting I can view the .tt file from Lokalize, great help if i can see the wider context of trans;ated string
18:55 cait oh wahanui
18:55 cait Brooke? :P
18:54 cait hi Brooke :)
18:54 Brooke opa!
18:54 cait but it's better since pootle has moved server
18:54 Ropuch :)
18:54 cait I hear you
18:54 cait yep
18:54 Ropuch No need to take hands of the keyborad
18:53 Ropuch And for translation: pootle is nice tool, especialy when working in team, but for one person poedit/gtranslator/lokalize/whatever is muuuuuch faster
18:51 cait :)
18:51 cait you should
18:51 cait hehe
18:51 Ropuch I think i should drop him an email [;
18:51 Ropuch cait: as for second library - i found about it reviewing the translation in pootle, I've spotted new translator email, find some of his post in koha-lists and tracked him and the library
18:49 Ropuch Bring back memories, doesn;t it? ;>
18:49 Ropuch hehehe
18:49 oleonard Ah, the old splash screen.
18:48 Ropuch http://katalog.bg.szczecin.pl/
18:48 cait soo...:)
18:48 Ropuch yea ;>
18:48 oleonard some_2.x_fork--
18:48 cait are you involved with the second?
18:48 cait makes sense to me
18:47 Ropuch ..and yes, there's another Koha library in Poland (I'm not counting big university library as they are using some 2.x fork)
18:47 cait but checking for errors with poedit
18:47 cait I got some help translating, try to do it all using pootle
18:47 cait :)
18:47 Ropuch Back then i was using gtranslator, but tried lokalize and it suits my taste better
18:46 Ropuch Lokalize
18:46 cait so there is a second library now?
18:46 cait you are working with poedit?
18:46 cait :)
18:46 cait ah
18:46 Ropuch I have opac already translated [;
18:45 Ropuch Lost my motivation since i was the only library in Poland using it, but since there is another ona Koha library... ;>
18:45 cait why not opac?
18:45 Ropuch Never managed to translate it all, neither in 3.0 nor in 3.2
18:44 Ropuch And then the longest journey - staff one ;>
18:44 cait cool :)
18:44 Ropuch Yup, I want to finish pref.po by tomorrow
18:43 cait I am down to 6038 words need attention
18:43 cait busy translating?
18:43 cait hi Ropuch
18:43 wizzyrea hi :)
18:43 Ropuch Hello wizzyrea, cait
18:39 wizzyrea ooo
18:39 cait oh, I don't know that film
18:36 wizzyrea hehe yes
18:35 oleonard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIP6EwqMEoE
18:22 wizzyrea it's from the princess bride... sec
18:22 cait not sure i get it :)
18:19 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/2WrZDeZC
18:19 * wizzyrea is in a mood
18:19 wizzyrea hehe
18:17 cait lol
18:16 wizzyrea ;)
18:16 wizzyrea no i carry the weight of every language's idiosyncrasies on my shoulders <wails> <moans>
18:16 wizzyrea hehe
18:16 cait not your fault that gemran words are too long :)
18:16 wizzyrea k
18:16 cait date due seems perfect :)
18:16 wizzyrea :(
18:15 cait no
18:15 cait that will make another long column
18:15 wizzyrea something better?
18:15 cait Fälligkeitsdatum in german
18:15 cait bah
18:15 cait think so
18:15 wizzyrea Date Due as a header ok?
18:15 wizzyrea that's an easy one, I can fix that.
18:14 cait I would think so - but someone else might know better :)
18:14 wizzyrea oh and maybe the header never got updated
18:14 cait and the column does not match
18:14 cait and now it's the due date - as you said
18:14 cait I was saying that I think the field changed over time (might be wrong there) so it was 1 for yes, it's checked out
18:14 wizzyrea "if there's nothing, it's not out at all"
18:14 wizzyrea the "if there is something here, that's the due date and it's checked out"
18:13 cait sorry
18:13 cait hehe
18:13 wizzyrea so you're probably right, yes, in one way that makes sense
18:13 wizzyrea is that "this is the date the item was checked out"
18:12 wizzyrea totally not following that logic... what that means to me
18:12 cait and not it's date due - if it has one it's checked out
18:12 cait I think it was boolean at some point
18:11 wizzyrea )
18:11 wizzyrea (I think that's supposed to be "date due"
18:11 wizzyrea it was issued in the future!
18:11 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/nBQtJch0MD check out that "Checked Out" column
18:10 wizzyrea ha oy
17:56 * druthb dun know nuffin about those things..
17:56 druthb :P
17:51 wahanui i guess Brooke_ is sweet, even though she tells us she's not.
17:51 cait Brooke_?
17:50 wahanui it has been said that Brooke is in biiiiiig trouble.
17:50 cait Brooke?
17:26 druthb why, yes, she is.
17:26 wahanui talljoy is magnificent!
17:26 druthb talljoy?
17:26 druthb oh-hoh.
17:26 druthb Brooke?
17:26 cait you will never know
17:26 druthb hm.
17:25 * druthb thinks cait has been conspiring with Brooke.
17:25 cait so just leave it ;)
17:25 * druthb would delete that, but can't think of anything better.
17:25 cait druthb: if you make himforget, I will make him remember
17:24 wahanui hmmm... druthb is our resident data mangle^h^h migration specialist, and also a hot lil number in a skirt.
17:24 druthb druthb?
17:20 gmcharlt for those who hack on SIP: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/SIPServer.git;a=shortlog
17:16 * cait can offer chocolate chip cookies tonight
17:15 cait I should have known that would happen
17:15 bg :)
17:15 wahanui cait is, like, kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies
17:15 bg cait?
17:15 bg sweet :)
17:15 wahanui bg is totally, completely, freakin' awesome!
17:15 cait bg?
17:15 cait hi bg :)
17:15 bg heya cait
17:14 cait hi #koha
17:02 rangi ]/ws 41
16:44 rhcl that's it. TNX
16:44 oleonard solr
16:44 rhcl drawing a blank...what's the indexing engine that is sometimes discussed as a replacement for zebra in Koha?
16:29 wizzyrea nm
16:18 kf bye all see you later :)
16:06 wizzyrea i've tested and it looks like you can now get through creating a guided report
16:03 wizzyrea otherwise I wouldn't have found it :P
16:03 wizzyrea well I have a very vague idea
16:03 wizzyrea but it seems to?
16:03 wizzyrea now, I have no idea why doing that fixes it
16:02 wizzyrea that's way at the bottom
16:02 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "what I commented to make build reports work" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/45
16:02 druthb wizzyrea++
16:01 wizzyrea I have no idea why this worked, so if someone can explain it to me that'd be great
16:01 wizzyrea big caveat
16:01 wizzyrea ok well here's what I came up with re; the guided reports being broken.
16:00 kf wizzyrea++
15:52 wizzyrea thing*
15:52 wizzyrea I think I cracked the reports thign
15:52 wizzyrea kf, have a sec?
15:49 wizzyrea oic
15:48 huginn` slef: The operation succeeded.
15:48 slef @later tell rangi why does http://onl.org.nz/open-discussion#comment-1 only appear when I am logged in. Not very open discussion?
15:43 oleonard Summary and Matrix were never implemented because Liblime used up all our money before they got to them. :P
15:42 wizzyrea i could be wrong about that. I will test it!
15:42 wizzyrea afaik
15:42 wizzyrea but these weren't reports that were created that way
15:42 oleonard I wonder if the "no type" ones are created from SQL?
15:42 oleonard Probably related to that step where you have to choose report type "Tabular"
15:41 kf no idea :)
15:41 wizzyrea it's probably irrelevant, I was just curious :P
15:40 wizzyrea but some have type "1" and some have no type
15:40 wizzyrea i'm asking because almost all of our reports that are saved are made from sql
15:40 kf only guessing
15:39 wizzyrea hmm
15:39 kf the pull down where you only have one option?
15:39 kf I think tabular
15:38 wizzyrea on the saved reports, what is the "type"
15:15 wizzyrea it looks like there's some loop that's preventing the display of it
15:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6258 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Guided reports wizard 'Build new' brings up empty page
15:15 kf bug 6258
15:14 library_systems_guy that is what i was thinking
15:14 kf and I am annoyed because I couldn't find the problem :P
15:14 wizzyrea something to do with TT maybe?
15:14 wizzyrea oh wow yea that's odd
15:14 kf only saying you don't have to file it
15:14 kf it's ok :)
15:14 kf no
15:12 library_systems_guy sorry kf
15:12 library_systems_guy oh man i should have checked there first
15:12 kf it's in bugzilla
15:12 kf I tried to solve it but have no idea what's going wrong there
15:12 library_systems_guy oh yay i found a bug :)
15:12 kf it's a bug
15:12 kf no
15:09 library_systems_guy and i was wondering if it was just me
15:09 library_systems_guy i am missing the build new reports section
15:09 library_systems_guy does anybody have their dev install pulled up?
15:09 sekjal hi, library_systems_guy
15:09 kf hi library_systems_guy
15:08 library_systems_guy hey everybody :)
15:04 kf sekjal++ :)
14:38 sekjal morning, oleonard!
14:38 oleonard Hi sekjal
14:16 druthb kf++
14:16 NurAhammad I am updating my system.
14:15 NurAhammad for your answer.
14:15 NurAhammad thanks a lot
14:14 kf there was a security bug that was fixed, so we strongly recommend updating. If it's only a test system you can ignore the Record-control-number error. It's harmless but also fixed in later releases.
14:12 NurAhammad is this a problem?
14:12 kf NurAhammad: after updating to the latest stable release (3.2.9) it should be gone. you should do that anyway, because it's a security release.
14:11 kf NurAhammad: you can ignore it
14:11 kf Ropuch: drop a mail on the koha-translate list for frederic
14:06 NurAhammad my searching is working.
14:06 NurAhammad I am uploading migrated data from CDS/ISIS
14:04 Ropuch Who is allowed to upload .po to pootle? I've translated polish opac for 3.4 and tried to upload it with "merge the file with currrent.." bu with no success
14:04 NurAhammad what is the wrong in my system
14:04 NurAhammad zebraidx(4374) [warn] Index 'Record-control-number' not found in attset(s)
14:04 NurAhammad when i run ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w
14:03 NurAhammad I found the following warning
14:02 NurAhammad how are you?
14:02 wahanui everybody is, like, so enthusiastic today :)
14:02 NurAhammad everybody
14:02 NurAhammad hi
13:30 oleonard Speaking of which, http://www.worldtimebuddy.com
12:59 kf oleonard++
12:49 magnuse oleonard++ # for being polite ;-)
12:46 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4513] Resetting framework to Default seems impossible <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4513>
12:44 oleonard Heh, they're even hotlinking the koha logo directly from koha.org
12:23 * kf hides behind her todo list
12:18 kf someone shoudl tell them nicely
12:18 kf it's in the opac too :(
12:16 oleonard Yay, Koha in Guyana! Boo, mention of koha.org.
12:09 kf ok, it's colder where you are but we had muchwarmer temperatures the last few weeks
12:07 magnuse kf: heh ;-)
12:07 magnuse hi druthb
12:07 kf magnus: here it got much colder
12:07 huginn` collum: The current temperature in Erlanger, Kentucky is 7.6�C (8:10 AM EDT on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady).
12:07 collum @wunder 41017
12:07 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 14.0�C (2:00 PM CEST on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1027 hPa (Falling).
12:07 kf @wunder Konstanz
12:07 collum 94% humidity. It looks like you can cut the air with a knife.
12:07 druthb hi, magnus. :)
12:06 magnus_lunch o/
12:05 druthb dang. Warmer here, than in southern California.
12:04 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Imperial, California is 13.0�C (4:53 AM PDT on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
12:04 druthb @wunder niland, CA
12:04 druthb hm
12:04 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 15.8�C (8:07 AM EDT on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady).
12:04 druthb @wunder 20852
11:58 magnus_lunch kf: it's... warm... almost hot...
11:57 magnus_lunch hola conan
11:57 kf hi conan
11:57 kf puh?
11:54 conan good morning all
11:51 magnus_lunch puh
11:50 huginn` magnus_lunch: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0�C (1:20 PM CEST on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
11:50 magnus_lunch @wunder boo
11:47 kf I thought it would just avoid them
11:47 kf vfernandes: sorry, I don't know
11:24 vfernandes kf there is a quick way to escape ( and ) from OPAC and Staff Client searches?
11:04 vfernandes thank you for the help
11:04 vfernandes yes it works :)
10:41 kf vfernandes: does it no work if you just search without them?
10:41 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6268] Bad Total in basket.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6268>
10:41 kf rangi: escaping?
10:40 rangi \
10:39 vfernandes so if i need to parser 225$a to not present ( and ) in order to be searchable
10:37 kf () can not be used for search I think
10:37 kf ah yes
10:37 vfernandes it almost works correctly... doesn't accept the character )
10:35 kf you could try Title-series:<searchterms> in simple search too
10:35 kf I have no unimarc installation to look at
10:35 kf and probably series
10:34 kf in keyword index
10:34 kf you can search for it
10:34 vfernandes how i search it?
10:34 kf that's good
10:34 kf it's indexed
10:34 vfernandes what means?
10:34 vfernandes kf record.abs: meln 225$a Title-series,Title-series:p
10:32 druthb :) hi.
10:32 kf hi druthb
10:31 druthb hi, rangi! :)
10:31 rangi hi druthb
10:27 druthb o/
10:26 huginn` 04Bug 5651: major, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, can't use ? character in searches
10:26 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5651
10:26 rangi it might have just been fixed for ccode
10:25 huginn` 04Bug 5693: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, reed, RESOLVED FIXED, if parentheses used in ccode then searches against ccode fail
10:25 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5693
10:23 magnuse i need some lunch
10:23 magnuse ouch
10:22 rangi and update those too
10:22 rangi now we have to find the bugs for searching
10:16 magnuse sorry rangi: looks like () do not work properly...
09:57 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5860] Adding duplicate stocknumber will fail silently <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5860>
09:57 vfernandes it means that are indexed?
09:56 vfernandes record.abs: meln 225$a Title-series,Title-series:p
09:56 * kf kf_lunch
09:55 kf vfernandes: you need a zebra index on that field to search for it, not all fields are indexed and most indexes contain more fields and subfields.
09:52 kf marcelr++
09:52 marcelr kf: rangi: i finished 5860; please take a look; thanks
09:52 kf you coudl check the record.abs file - see if the field is already indexed and how the index is named
09:51 vfernandes kf it's possible to search in OPAC for one subfield? 225$a in UNIMARC for example
09:47 kf closing_old_bugs++
09:34 rangi and never closed
09:34 rangi yeah, i think it was fixed in other bugs
09:33 magnuse wow, it's only from january 2008...
09:33 rangi -e
09:33 rangi if you had time to test that that would be greate
09:32 rangi by jcamins
09:32 rangi this is the only open blocker, but i think its actually been fixed
09:32 huginn` 04Bug 1807: blocker, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results
09:32 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1807
09:31 magnuse yeah, so do i - closing bugs just seemed like the easiest thing to do at the moment...
09:30 kf but I have some other things to deal with first
09:29 kf would love to work on that in fact
09:29 kf hehe
09:29 magnuse i dare you to prove it, then! ;-)
09:28 kf I sounds like TT - not proven yet
09:28 magnuse thanks
09:28 magnuse kf: link that to 5917?
09:27 kf magnuse++ for bug wrangling
09:27 kf vfernandes: you are welcome. happy it worked
09:27 kf magnuse: probably one more - the problem in label creator
09:26 vfernandes tanks kf for the help
09:26 magnuse having those solved would be cool!
09:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6306 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , It is not possible edit news
09:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6258 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Guided reports wizard 'Build new' brings up empty page
09:25 magnuse its bug 6258 and bug 6306
09:25 rangi oh cool, ill look into the 2 sometime this week
09:24 magnuse it depends on two bugs that do not have a patch, and one that is signed off. all the others are pushed
09:24 vfernandes :)
09:24 vfernandes kf i've tried the script and it worked
09:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit
09:24 magnuse awh shucks - i was just hoping to see bug 5917 resolved for 3.4.1
09:23 rangi magnuse++ #resolving bugs
09:21 vfernandes for example 225$a
09:19 vfernandes another questions... it's possible to search by one MARC field on the OPAC?
09:18 vfernandes i'll try on a test database
09:18 vfernandes me neither
09:18 kf you should test it on a test database first
09:17 kf I have never used it
09:17 kf yes, I was searching for it
09:17 kf ah
09:17 vfernandes correct?
09:17 vfernandes i think that is batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl
09:17 vfernandes but now i need to run the script
09:17 vfernandes ok... i've already changed it to 200$f in the mapping from MARC to Koha
09:16 kf yes, if you try to map a second it will delete the first mapping
09:15 vfernandes only one field is mapped but an incorrect one
09:15 vfernandes the librarian changed that
09:15 kf using koha-to-marc-mapping
09:14 kf the problem is you can only have one field mapped to the table, not 2. the librarian probably tried to map another field.
09:14 vfernandes which is the script?
09:14 vfernandes now i need to change the biblio.author to 200$f and update the records
09:14 kf i think there is a script to fix that
09:14 vfernandes and when I've done the import of the records the authors the biblio.author was equal to 700$a
09:13 vfernandes i have a question... by some reason one librarian changed the author field to 700$a instead of 200$f (in koha => marc connection)
09:11 kf hi vfernandes
09:10 vfernandes hi there
08:38 glernil yup.. its the same bug
08:38 kf ah, blamed the wrong bot
08:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6343 critical, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Label Creator not working , Current Branch: NULL
08:38 kf bug 6343
08:38 wahanui kf?
08:38 kf wahanui?
08:37 glernil Bug 6343
08:37 glernil oops... sorry it has been filed already
08:36 kf it could be a template toolkit problem which should not be too hard to fix then
08:35 kf glernil: file a bug for it and describe the steps :)
08:35 glernil when i tried to create a new batch the selected library is gone
08:34 glernil i found a bug in the label creator module under tools
08:22 rangi yup :)
08:21 marcelr some work for our qa!
08:21 rangi down to 95!
08:20 rangi and just do one patch, that does it all
08:20 marcelr right
08:20 rangi and your follow up
08:20 rangi it might be worth obsoleting my patch
08:19 marcelr :-)
08:19 kf marcelr++
08:19 marcelr ok, we skip the followup fixes etc etc for three new follow follow followup fixes...
08:18 kf because I missed the different index names :(
08:18 kf bah, that got really messy :(
08:18 marcelr it would be three patches for master, 32x and 34x combining changes
08:18 kf and if we are going to do the check a new patch for master will also be needed
08:18 kf I think combine the 3.2 and 3.4 into one patch each would be good
08:17 marcelr shall i send just a new patch for both changes now?
08:16 rangi that'd work
08:16 marcelr yeah
08:16 kf somethin like SHOW INDEXES FROM items WHERE key_name='itemsstocknumberidx' and non_unique = 0 perhaps?
08:15 marcelr we could add a test instead of just recreating it (at end of update)
08:15 rangi their upgrade will take a while anyway ;)
08:15 rangi but i could live with it
08:15 rangi best
08:15 rangi and some koha do, so doing it twice if we dont need to, isnt probably the bet
08:15 rangi yep, any index will stay take a little while when you have millions of items
08:14 marcelr but is not unique
08:14 rangi any index for that matter
08:13 rangi if you have a lot of items it may take quite a while to make the unique index
08:12 kf I think rangi had told me that it can take a long time to create the index so it should be avoided to do it more than once - so perhaps we should make sure he is ok with doing it like that?
08:11 kf rangi: around?
08:11 kf hope that too
08:09 marcelr hope that both chris's will still understand what we are doing...
08:08 marcelr ok, will take second look at 32/34
08:08 kf and it will probably be not apparent that we are fixing it later in the script
08:08 kf because people with the 'wrong index name' will get a red error message in web installer (as it happens now)
08:08 kf I wondered if we should alter the old for the other versions too
08:07 marcelr yes..
08:07 kf that should work hopefully catching them all
08:07 kf yes, I think rangi altered the old entry and you added one at the end
08:07 kf I would love to see the red error message from the web installer gone - irritating for people
08:07 marcelr for master 2 fixes complement each other
08:06 kf did you alter the old entries too?
08:06 kf I hope :)
08:06 marcelr complete now?
08:06 kf I see your patch on the list
08:05 kf ah
08:04 marcelr yes
08:00 kf marcelr: still around?
07:50 magnuse thanks :-)
07:50 eythian we got it turned down a bit for when you were here.
07:49 magnuse yeah, i don't think of wellington as a windy place now...
07:48 rangi i was very happy that during kohacon we escaped with no real wind
07:48 rangi hehe
07:48 magnuse hehe
07:48 magnuse good for you
07:48 eythian except the 15 minutes I'm biking home, then it's always southerly
07:47 rangi so we usually escape the worst, its when its a southerly we get hammered
07:47 rangi luckily northerlies are the prevailing wind
07:47 rangi the shape of the valley makes it a wind tunnel
07:46 rangi it will probably go over
07:46 rangi but if we get another 140kmph wind
07:46 magnuse see?
07:46 eythian magnuse: yep
07:45 rangi well it didnt blow down last year when i add 4 more posts to it
07:45 magnuse the wind would make an extra effort to knock it down?
07:45 rangi heh
07:45 eythian because that just makes it windier
07:44 magnuse hm, how about making it just a little stronger? ;-)
07:44 rangi my fence usually blows down once a year :)
07:43 magnuse cool
07:43 rangi video is probably from my hill
07:42 rangi thats the bay i live above
07:42 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc5hr8NzGXs
07:41 magnuse "Wellingtonians learn to live with the wind, some claiming they like it. One positive effect is that air pollution is rarely a problem." Hehe
07:39 rangi :)
07:39 magnuse bod� is quite famous for it's wind, but it looks like wellington is worse... ;-)
07:38 magnuse http://www.windfinder.com/windstats/windstatistic_bodo_lufthavn.htm
07:38 magnuse http://www.windfinder.com/windstats/windstatistic_wellington.htm
07:36 rangi http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/wellington-region/3/1
07:35 eythian heh
07:35 eythian nobody talks about wind here :)
07:35 rangi if someone talks about wind here, its just a normal day
07:34 kf if someone talks about wind here it means headache most of the time
07:34 paul_p it's a cold wind. Very strong and very famous in France
07:34 magnuse paul_p: what's that like? hot?cold? people going crazy?
07:34 paul_p no more wind today
07:33 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 16.0�C (9:00 AM CEST on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
07:33 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:33 paul_p yesterday in marseille, a *lot* of mistral (the wind)
07:30 marcelr that happens :-)
07:30 kf marcelr: my weekend didn't go as expected
07:30 kf t
07:30 kf marcelr: thx a lo
07:29 marcelr kf: i will send patch for 5860 32x and 34x in short time
07:29 kf and hi to all :)
07:29 paul_p hi kf & Ropuch & rangi & marcelr & all
07:29 marcelr kf: hi
07:28 Ropuch Hello kf :)
07:28 kf paul_p: thx for the mail
07:13 rangi hi AmitG
07:13 AmitG heya chris
07:12 rangi think we can combine both ideas to improve this.
07:12 rangi steps in. I tried "show indexes from items" and see the field non_unique - so I
07:12 rangi I will try to work on it at the weekend, but will be happy if someone else
07:12 rangi last message is her
07:11 marcelr i will send it then
07:11 marcelr katrin did not send it?
07:11 rangi its just an updatedatbase
07:11 rangi the patch for 3.2.x and 3.4.x should be essentially the same
07:11 marcelr yes for master, i did
07:11 rangi i think you had some suggestions to improve it?
07:10 rangi ill go look
07:08 marcelr rangi: hi! what should still be done for 5860? 32x or 34x patch?
07:07 rangi evening
07:03 paul_p hi magnuse
07:02 magnuse kia ora paul_p
07:00 magnuse bonjour
06:59 francharb hello
06:46 Ropuch Morning #koha
06:44 magnuse bonjour
06:43 clrh hi
05:56 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.7�C (7:55 AM CEST on May 16, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady).
05:56 cait @wunder Konstanz
05:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist
05:11 wahanui I haven't seen 'the', cait
05:11 cait rangi: seen the comment on bug 6292? does it make sense?
04:57 rangi heh yes
04:56 cait seems I am your night shift rangi
04:55 Space_Librarian do we want to? :)
04:54 rangi ull never catch me!!
04:54 * cait talks too much
04:54 rangi During this 2059-day reporting period, a total of 2101 different nicks were represented on #koha.
04:54 cait ouch
04:53 cait number 3?
04:53 cait hi Space_Librarian
04:53 Space_Librarian morning cait
04:53 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/
04:53 rangi morning number 3
04:53 cait morning #koha
03:17 druthb zomg. I get to go to bed before midnight. It's a *miracle!* Good night, #koha.
03:05 jenkins_koha * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.09.000
03:05 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth
03:05 jenkins_koha * Chris Nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.02.09.000
03:05 jenkins_koha * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 5995 : MT2892: Fix security issue in CAS intranet login
03:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.2.x build #26: SUCCESS in 37 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/26/
03:02 rangi barring some kinda emergency
03:01 rangi pretty much full time on koha now
03:01 pianohacker rangi: What are you up to at catalyst these days, anyway?
03:01 pianohacker if for no other reason than that they're confusing
03:01 pianohacker dammit, time_zones--
03:00 pianohacker hola druthb
03:00 * druthb waves to pianohacker.
02:57 rangi pretty good for a monday :)
02:57 chris_n g'night #koha
02:57 pianohacker how's it going?
02:57 pianohacker hi chris
02:57 rangi hi ronald and pianohacker
02:52 druthb chris_n++
02:43 rangi well the LTS person will be happy at least
02:43 rangi yup
02:42 chris_n that pretty much guarantees a 3.2.10
02:41 rangi heh
02:41 chris_n so much for the fastest release cycle in the history of Koha
02:40 chris_n :)
02:39 rangi chris_n++
02:35 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to 3.02.09.000 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e011a9fb0a0740d4732518cb1ab5b7a2d979e28> / Release Notes for 3.02.09.000 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=78d6256d150ff711f9e97affb429433f41771dd7> / Bug 5995 : MT2892: Fix security issue in CAS intranet login <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1f3b156ba2a0aa36b0e1
02:28 jenkins_koha Starting build 26 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:24 eythian Waylon: we're here to help you discover things like that ;)
01:18 Waylon aah.. looks like my fault.
01:12 Waylon get_template_and_user is getting called twice...
00:40 Waylon can't seem to set param's until after the second login runthrough.
00:03 Waylon hiya all. okay, modded my system to track login numbers per account. Seems the login routine is being run twice per single login. rel_3_0 .... anyone got a old bug report for this bug?