Time Nick Message 23:59 Space_Librarian sorry. sorting out my android irc 23:55 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 18.8�C (4:58 PM PDT on May 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect until midnight PDT tonight... 23:55 bg @wunder 93109 22:31 wahanui OK, eythian. 22:31 eythian wahanui: cat is http://www.nyan.cat/ 22:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6284 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Reports Filters Need Prettying 22:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6320 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Generate Next button doesn't generate next issue 22:22 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6284, Reports Filters Need Prettying 22:22 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 6320 Generate Next button doesn't generate next issue 22:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #245: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/245/ 22:16 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6325] Bib detail - z39.50 button functionality should be under "Edit" menu. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6325> 21:55 wizzyrea back later :) 21:55 margo goodnight #koha 21:40 jenkins_koha Starting build 245 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6295 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , misaligned columns in opac suggestions list 21:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6308 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Show number of comments on the "Comments" tab in OPAC 21:40 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6295 - misaligned columns in opac suggestions list 21:40 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 6308 - Show number of comments - new patch 21:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #244: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/244/ 21:37 rhcl Huh, not those. 21:36 joethoks whoops, afk 21:36 joethoks know em? 21:36 joethoks Cloud 21:36 joethoks Tuesday 21:36 joethoks Mercedes 21:35 rhcl Hey, I don't get out much, except to places that apparently other people don't go to, and where the performers have one-name names 21:35 joethoks alas, afk 21:35 joethoks well played 21:35 joethoks ha ha ha 21:34 rhcl who is Elvis? 21:34 joethoks that is like saying Who is ELVIS 21:34 rhcl who is Lucinda Williams? 21:34 joethoks WHAT???? 21:34 rhcl who is Lucinda Williams? 21:34 rhcl hehe 21:34 joethoks Yes, Tulsa, where Lucinda Williams is too. Probably about to do a sound check about now 21:34 bg heh - damn keyword alerts ;) 21:33 rhcl well, at least we see what got bg to speak up :) 21:33 wizzyrea ks. psh. 21:33 joethoks Hold on to your pole 21:33 wizzyrea aren't you in OKLAHOMA now? 21:32 * wizzyrea sighs at joethoks 21:32 wizzyrea i almost fell over. 21:32 joethoks YAWN 21:32 joethoks oh yes, hilarious 21:32 rhcl I did 21:32 joethoks I will be listening to Lucinda Williams 21:32 * wizzyrea is amazed no one caught that rather hilarious typo 21:32 rhcl yep. Our 9:00pm 21:31 bg at the nudie_bar yes 21:31 joethoks so... 4.5 hours from now? 21:31 * bg giggles watching that exchange 21:31 rhcl Well, we can sit in the back and drink coffee and Mibbit IRC. 21:31 bg heh 21:30 wizzyrea (lol) 21:30 wizzyrea jigs 21:30 wizzyrea sorry, refined sports bar place with scantily clad waitresses who happen to dance jugs. 21:29 rhcl NUDIE BAR? Where? 21:29 wizzyrea why exactly would you want wifi at a nudie bar? 21:29 * wizzyrea considers... 21:28 rhcl 9:00pm? 9:00pm? Hey wizzyrea, does All Stars have wireless internet? 21:26 rhcl Oh, maybe one of us was off 12 hours. 21:25 rhcl yea, I was on the link, and I said 9:00 am for the converter. But I got it now. 21:25 wizzyrea too* even 21:25 * wizzyrea to, assuming I can get kiddo in bed :) 21:25 rangi cool 21:25 rhcl OK, so there's an irc meeting in 4.5 hours. I'll be there. 21:24 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_Meeting,_11_May_2011 21:24 skushner yesh 21:24 rhcl I am confusted so. 21:24 rangi so in 4.5 hours 21:24 rangi its at 2utc today 21:24 rhcl Yes, I should be there, but will be in a manager's meeting. I'll monitor with my laptop. 21:23 rangi whats the time there now? 21:23 rhcl rangi: meeting today? The one tomorrow (for us) I presume you mean? 21:19 * Space_Librarian waves 21:12 wizzyrea mornin Space_Librarian 21:12 Space_Librarian morning #koha 21:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6284, Reports Filters Need Prettying <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=300dbe5d72fbf57d6dc376e30d79acb52b92a8f4> / Bug 6320 Generate Next button doesn't generate next issue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c92f9dee40c0945575b25e811adb3e08d4747923> 21:12 skushner don't think so, sry 21:03 rangi has a link to a time converter there 21:03 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_Meeting,_11_May_2011 21:02 skushner when is the meeting? 21:02 jcamins Good night, #koha. 20:58 jenkins_koha Starting build 244 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6295 - misaligned columns in opac suggestions list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9773c746a9402e3d6ea91e918e5a1fa530140851> / Bug 6308 - Show number of comments - new patch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88b7cc2552cfc26868648d29247023bd818b17b9> 20:51 rangi skushner and rhcl, you guys hanging round for the meeting today? 20:51 rangi heh 20:50 skushner evenin' 20:40 rhcl afternoon 20:37 wizzyrea mornin 20:37 rangi morning 20:32 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6323] Attach/move items -- error handling cleanup <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6323> 20:01 huginn rhcl: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 1 day, 5 hours, 10 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> :) 20:01 rhcl @seen gmcharlt 19:48 aogle eh, nvm :-| 19:48 aogle mib_aufos3, either open up your firewall, let the world in. Or get some hosting somewhere. 19:23 skushner hi ruth 19:08 mib_aufos3 Hi, I will to transport my library from localhost to web space. What can I do? 19:08 wizzyrea this attach items thing I'm working on. It's done, but I'm not sure the best way to go about submitting it? I know that sounds a little crazy. 19:08 wizzyrea well for example 19:07 wizzyrea well, when you're doing an improvement, lets just say 19:07 oleonard What do you think is lacking? 19:07 wizzyrea I think it's 2 that I'm working out ;) 19:06 * druthb waves to skushner. 19:05 oleonard 1. Dev. 2. ??? 3. Profit. 19:05 wizzyrea anyone care to share with me their dev workflow? I'm still working mine out and my mental map needs filling in 18:45 oleonard [off] Better invisible ink 18:45 oleonard http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-05-10 18:44 skushner invisible ink 18:44 oleonard Okay... 18:44 skushner set color to white 18:43 oleonard ? 18:43 skushner 0kk 17:54 nengard hehe 17:47 druthb brendan++ #whether he wants it or not! 17:45 huginn bg: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 26 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 26. 17:45 bg @karma brendan 17:39 huginn nengard: Karma for "nengard" has been increased 165 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 165. 17:39 nengard @karma nengard 17:37 * druthb waves to mari_marvel 17:31 sekjal brb, all 17:31 * sekjal is confused, but reckons that may from lack of lunch 17:30 druthb be switched; I'm still ahead of him. Just. 17:30 huginn druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 94 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 94. 17:30 druthb @karma druthb 17:30 huginn sekjal: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 94 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 93. 17:30 sekjal @karma sekjal 17:30 druthb sekjal++ 17:30 cait sekjal++ 17:24 cait hiho 17:10 schuster heyo! 17:09 * druthb waves to schuster 17:00 indradg hi #koha 16:41 druthb REST makes a lot of sense, and is lightweight and (relatively) easy to program. I'd love to see more Koha things accessible via REST structures. 16:40 cait lots of code 16:40 cait wow 16:40 * jcamins is *very* proud of that one. 16:40 jcamins http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Add_direct_export_to_RefWorks_link_to_OPAC 16:39 cait ah 16:39 jcamins cait: see my RefWorks export example. 16:39 rhcl Kyle Hall indicates that he will be using ReST for the new Libki client/server to communicate with the Koha db. 16:38 cait I thought there was a rest api for biblios - not sure it's still there 16:38 cait ah 16:38 jcamins cait: we're all tired. ;) 16:38 * druthb points at rhcl. "Greg asked." 16:38 cait ;) 16:38 druthb Thanx. 16:38 cait to lazy to read back - why are you talking about rest? 16:38 * druthb blushes. 16:38 rhcl hey, that looks like a good link! druthb++ 16:37 druthb Here's a basic reader that might help: http://rest.elkstein.org/ 16:37 jcamins rhcl: druthb has described the complete definition of REST, I think. 16:36 rhcl I can't find any documentation--it's probably all buried in search results like "database connection for the rest of us". 16:35 druthb The programmer sets things up so the program answers to URLS like http://site.org/search/<searchstring>...not *that* dissimilar from what Koha does now, really. 16:34 druthb nothing much magic about REST, rhcl. It's just a fancy sort of URL, and not *very* fancy, at that. 16:32 rhcl My googler is broke. Can anyone give me a frame of reference for using "REST" for a database connection? 16:12 nengard they weren't my records so i don't know for sure what was in there 16:11 conan but you have accents in your records? 16:10 nengard cant remember 16:10 nengard i'm not sure that i had that issue ... 16:09 conan can bits get exhausted? :P 16:09 conan we tried all DB which is >14000 and suddenly all accents dissapeared 16:09 conan we tried 1000 records, also fine 16:09 conan we tried 1 record and went fine 16:08 conan well, we found problems when importing from isismarc into koha because the accents were not importing ok, so now we're trying a workaround by doing a print to a file in isismarc and then loading that printout into MarcEdit to compile a proper .mrc 16:07 margo ok 16:07 nengard conan - what problem? 16:07 nengard working on it .... 16:07 conan nengard: you got accents problems? 16:07 margo is the 3.4 manual searchable yet? 16:06 margo hey nengard 16:05 nengard hiya margo 16:05 margo lol 16:05 wizzyrea it's 'time-of-the-day' in #koha :) 16:04 margo good morning-ish 16:04 wizzyrea hi margo 16:04 wizzyrea fixing the lowercase tobranches ;) 16:03 sekjal wizzyrea: waz tha for? 16:03 nengard conan, i've done well over 50000 before with no prob 16:03 wizzyrea sekjal++ 15:59 conan somehow MarcEdit works well for 1000 records and below, but it cracks when you feed it with more records 15:57 conan is there an open source marc generator that takes input from a printed marc file? 15:52 wizzyrea there you have it 15:52 nengard like jcamins said 15:52 wizzyrea AHA 15:52 nengard or some such thing 15:52 nengard maybe - the push did say moved HOHR to .pref file 15:52 wizzyrea gotcha 15:52 jcamins wizzyrea: it was missing from the .pref file, so it was in local use. 15:52 wizzyrea maybe it was moved from localuse to it's proper place? 15:51 wizzyrea (affecting stuff, no less) 15:51 wizzyrea since I've had it for a copule months at least 15:51 * wizzyrea finds that odd 15:51 wizzyrea :) I gathered 15:51 nengard where R=Return 15:51 nengard wizzyrea HOHR was pushed to 3.4 last week i think by chris_n 15:45 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded. 15:45 hdl @later tell kf it worked for me you can test on koha.master.testing.biblibre.com 15:44 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded. 15:44 hdl @later tell kf INSERT INTO `subscription` VALUES (3,4,'demo','2011-02-10',1,NULL,NULL,0,24,0,6,NULL,'{X} - {Y}','','1',1,6,9999999,0,2012,1,1,9999,1,219,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,'2011-05-31',0,'','',7,NULL,'','','GEN','IPT',1,NULL,0,'','',0,'2013-02-10'); here is what you asked for. 15:43 sekjal I've got a fix for it that I need to wrap up and push 15:42 sekjal HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn is currently incompatible with IndependantBranches 15:38 wizzyrea funny, because I didn't know about HomeOrHoldingBranchReserves 15:38 wizzyrea it's new-ish 15:38 wizzyrea HOHR is under local use atm 15:37 hdl wizzyrea : quite close... But I know Of HomeOrHoldingBranch and HomeOrHoldingBranchReserves but not of HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn. 15:33 kf oleonard++ late thx for the jquery/css hint :) 15:32 wizzyrea anywhere close to reality? 15:32 wizzyrea HomeOrHoldingReturn = defines what happens to an item returned at a branch other than it's home 15:31 wizzyrea HomeOrHolding = rules based only on items (possibly to be deprecated) 15:31 wizzyrea CircControl = rules based on one of item homebranch, patron homebranch, or logged in user branch 15:30 wizzyrea the basic idea I got 15:30 wizzyrea I think so? 15:30 hdl wizzyrea nengard does that make more sense now ? 15:20 wizzyrea one is one that I've had to futz with lately 15:19 wizzyrea that 15:19 wizzyrea I think 15:19 wizzyrea home or holding return decides whether, when an item is returned, it is held at the holding branch or force returned to the home branch 15:19 * conan notices meeting will be at 23 hs today for him 15:18 wizzyrea the application of this is that you can have floating items, items that were checked out from their home branch, but returned at another branch 15:16 hdl Because in a network, it is important to keep track of the library who OWNS the item, and the library who HOLDS the item. 15:15 hdl when HomeOrHoldingBranch set to HoldingBranch, it changes the holdingbranch when a borrower returns a book to another library, not the homebranch. 15:14 hdl PickupLibrary only impacts issuingrule. 15:14 hdl The inner behaviour for an item is different depending on the HomeOrHoldingBranch or PickupLibrary 15:13 hdl well... where it is supposed to be now... The library which has it. 15:12 wizzyrea (where it is now) 15:12 wizzyrea right 15:12 hdl holding branch is the library which latest had the book. 15:11 wizzyrea (holding branch) 15:10 wizzyrea oh, only the current location 15:10 hdl only items... 15:10 hdl No. 15:10 wizzyrea and nothing to do with borrowers or logged in branch 15:10 hdl i.e. the library rule where the item last was. 15:10 wizzyrea so only items 15:09 hdl HomeOrHoldingBranch is to decide whether it is items' homebranch or items' holding branch 15:09 wizzyrea with CircControl 15:09 wizzyrea so you can circ with rules based on issuing library, borrower's homebranch, or the item's home branch 15:09 hdl for CircControl 15:08 hdl It is that level of choice. 15:08 hdl nengard: in the case of Circcontrol, you have the choice between "3 tables" : issues (or C4::Context-userenv) borrowers, items. 15:07 nengard hdl, i'm sorry i'm still very confused 15:06 hdl In your case the real rule followed is : the library the item was checked out from 15:05 hdl circontrol set to the items branch. And then you would choose homebranch or holdingbranch 15:04 hdl It is the system preference description which is not really good. 15:04 * conan finally discovered how to import from isismarc into koha 15:03 hdl But French are not. 15:03 nengard what rules are followed 15:03 nengard so if i have circontrol set to 'the library the item is from' and homeorholdingbranch set to 'the library the item was checked out from' what happens 15:03 wizzyrea (teasing) 15:03 hdl Most of american libraries consider homebranch as the item related information. 15:02 * wizzyrea proposes that all syspref descriptions should be done in verse 15:02 hdl It was not designed that way. 15:02 hdl nengard: maybe circcontrol should also get into details : saying items.holdingbranch Or items.homebranch 15:01 Oak that rhymes 15:01 hdl Circcontrol is here to say which branch from user, library or item to consider. 15:01 Oak hiya wizzyrea :) 15:01 wizzyrea hi Oak :) 15:01 * Oak waves 15:01 wizzyrea yep 14:59 conan the irc meeting... is tomorrow? 14:57 nengard ? 14:52 nengard like i said they have the same description 14:50 nengard then what is circcontrol? 14:50 hdl nengard: HomeOrHoldingBranch is there to tell which of the two fields of items homebranch or holdingbranch is to be considered in circulation. 14:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5333 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Undefined value stops import from z39.50 14:41 slef bug 5333 14:36 paul_p same description too, it doesn't help... 14:35 * paul_p looking to french descriptions of those sysprefs to see if it helps... 14:34 wizzyrea I didn't say you'd like the answer ;) 14:34 nengard gonna put this to the dev list I guess 14:34 nengard wizzyrea, okay, that's confusing 14:33 paul_p mmm... sorry, I won't be able to help you, it's not clear for me too 14:31 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=homeorholding&list_id=5333 14:31 paul_p (hello USA !) 14:31 * paul_p reading 14:31 wizzyrea and I believe there was objection 14:30 wizzyrea but there's a bug on deprecating it 14:30 wizzyrea HomeOrHolding was going away in favor of CircControl 14:30 jcamins I think that one of them is supposed to be eliminated, but wasn't yet. 14:30 nengard :) 14:30 nengard they can't both do the same thing ... or if they do then we don't need two prefs : 14:29 nengard there is at least one bug to report here though ... CircControl and HomeOrHoldingBranch have the same descriptions 14:28 nengard all three have to do with circ rules and checking in and out ... just not sure which does what 14:28 nengard that much is clear, paul_p was this a Biblibre addition? 14:27 wizzyrea but I know that it has something to do with the way the rules are applied for circulation, and what happens when books are returned 14:27 * wizzyrea has always been confused by that 14:26 nengard and i the manual correct when I say it's linked to IndependantBranches 14:26 nengard what does HomeOrHoldingBranch do? 14:26 nengard and then there is HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn 14:26 nengard CircControl and HomeOrHoldingBranch have the same descriptions ... 14:26 nengard need me some sys pref help 14:25 wizzyrea looks like not 14:24 * wizzyrea idly wonders if they have an api 14:23 rhcl Hey, we just got a bookcrossing book back from 2002. Might be amusing to have a Koha function to track these books. 14:05 huginn rhcl: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 15 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> :) 14:05 rhcl @seen gmcharlt 14:01 * wizzyrea finds this trend of Koha in government interesting 14:00 wizzyrea yea, grats to colin and pals 13:45 druthb That's very cool news, oleonard. 13:43 oleonard http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=15689 13:12 Oak \o 12:59 kf hmpf 12:58 kf $("input[name='exemptfine']").parent().remove(); 12:58 kf thx :) 12:56 oleonard Tricky 12:56 kf I see the buttons in the source code of the page 12:56 kf owen: you might be right 12:48 kf but it says: Hold at Seminar Stuttgart 12:47 kf I have only one brnach 12:47 kf hm 12:40 kf it says the item is reserved on check-in but no buttons for printing the slip and confirming the hold 12:40 kf oleonard: it's weird 12:40 kf no 12:39 jcamins Good morning, #koha. 12:36 oleonard Do you have any custom CSS hiding things? 12:36 oleonard kf, I don't see any switch in the template that would turn off the print slip button 12:29 kf anyone an idea which switch that could be? 12:29 kf when a reserved book is returned, I get a message but no option to print the slip 12:29 kf ok, I have 2 installations, in one it's workingi n the other not - so I suspect configuration 12:16 paul_p hi oleonard 12:16 oleonard Hi #koha 11:26 conan good morning 10:32 druthb hi, kf. :) 10:32 kf hi druthb :) 10:31 rangi yup 10:31 druthb It is very awesome. 10:31 druthb oh! musta mis-read (too darn early in the AM...) 10:30 rangi which is even cooler imho 10:30 rangi UK 10:29 druthb saw your tweet about the NZ National Archives, rangi. That's very cool! 10:27 rangi hey druthb 10:24 druthb o/ 09:54 mihafan Does anyone know what is causing this error "Bad arg length for Socket::pack_sockaddr_in, length is 0, should be 4 at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/Socket.pm line 214." 08:51 kf thx 08:51 hdl (which is tomorrow) 08:50 hdl I had some work at home yesterday night... But could not work on that. Will test and send you before the regular meeting 08:49 hdl kf: no problem. 08:49 kf chance sorry 08:49 hdl indeed. 08:49 hdl kf: that would change.... 08:47 kf did you have a change to look at the subscription pattern? 08:32 hdl yes. 08:32 kf hdl: around? 08:26 wahanui i guess rangi is a proud MÄori whose sense of humour matches his prowess in coding. 08:26 mihafan rangi? 08:14 mihafan "invalid username or password" 08:14 mihafan when I create another user in active directory and fill in Koha-conf, this error still occurs 08:11 kf hi #koha 08:10 mihafan problem is not file Auth_with_ldap?? 08:09 mihafan yes I use the base 08:09 rangi you'll have to experiment with it yourself, im out of advice 08:08 rangi to construct that 08:08 rangi it uses the base 08:08 rangi yes, but tahts not how you specify it in the config file 08:08 mihafan I long ago set up so only the administrator login but other users are not logged in, appear the error "Unatorized user" 08:05 mihafan cn=Administrator,cn=Users,dc=koha,dc=local password: Q1W2e3r4 08:05 mihafan I test a ldap server with same credentials and it works 08:04 mihafan Yes 08:04 rangi ie, the user you have in <user></user> 08:03 rangi in that case, it wont be the comparison, its more likely the user you are trying to connect with is invalid 08:03 mihafan yes 08:03 rangi stored in plain text in active directory? 08:03 mihafan is plain 08:03 mihafan not 08:02 rangi could be, are your passwords encrypted? 08:02 mihafan I think the problem is the file to be made ​​when comparing passwords Auth_with_ldap 08:01 rangi not really a koha problem, as Koha just uses Net::LDAP so maybe read the man pages for that 08:01 rangi you dont have to have one, but its easier to test with one, but i think the main problem is your user is invalid 08:00 rangi sudo apt-get install ldap-utils 07:59 mihafan must be install a ldap client on debian? 07:59 mihafan how to search in ldap server from debian? 07:55 rangi try with ldapsearch on the debian machine 07:55 rangi (at a guess) 07:55 rangi <user>Administrator@koha.local</user> 07:54 rangi it should be something like 07:54 rangi yeah like i said, the user looks wrong to me 07:54 pastebot "mihafan" at 93.116.255.218 pasted "Description of problem: On loc" (47 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/42 07:53 rangi also when you want to paste, use paste.koha-community.org 07:52 rangi it needs to be a valid user 07:52 rangi you have the base info in the user bit 07:51 rangi that user doesn't look right to me 07:50 mihafan When I try to log in OPAC module, I give a error "Invalid username or password"!!! 07:49 mihafan <firstname is="givenName" ></firstname> <surname is="sn" ></surname> <address is="postalAddress" ></address> <city is="l" ></city> <branchcode is="" >MAIN</branchcode> <userid is="sAMAccountName" >Administrator</userid> <password is="userPassword" ></passwor 07:49 mihafan koha-conf.xml contents: <yazgfs> .............. <config> .......................... <memcached_servers></ memcached_servers> <memcached_namespace></memcached_namespace> <useldapserver>1</useldapserver> <ldapserver id="ldapserver"> <hostname>192.168.11.90:389</hostname> <base>dc=koha,dc=local</base> <user>cn=Administrator,cn=Users,dc=koha,dc=md 07:49 mihafan Description of problem: On local machine is installed windows server 2003 with configured active director. I installed Debian on another machine, here I installed Koha 3.2 which still works well. Koha have configured to use a active directory ldap server. I test this ldap server with Softerra LDAP Browser and it works 07:47 mihafan hello 07:41 rangi hi europe 07:40 julian hi #koha! 06:38 paul_p hello world 06:33 alex_a hi #koha 06:03 cait have a nice evening :) 06:03 eythian bye all 06:02 eythian I think I'm going to go home and finish this tomorrow. 06:01 cait hi ronald 06:01 eythian hi ronald 06:00 eythian oh, and the 'active' field is set twice, fortunately from the same source. 05:58 cait I tried to clean that up but got stuck and went on to other projects... 05:58 eythian yeah 05:58 cait borrowers is the same 05:58 cait yes... 05:58 eythian heh, and every one of them is a different data type 05:58 cait lol 05:58 cait if I am reading that correctly... 05:58 eythian hmm, there's not two fax numbers here, there's three. That's just ridiculous. 05:57 eythian ah, that's good 05:57 cait looks like it only uses the borrowernumber if you don't have a to adress in the table :) 05:57 cait hm 05:50 eythian yeah, I don't think the 10-15 minute thing is going to be a problem for that 05:48 cait there might be a reason why you want to make acq mails go out fast, but I think you could just make the cronjob run more often 05:48 cait hm ok 05:47 eythian yes, because it also allows you to log and control email centrally, which is quite handy 05:46 cait but still not sure :) 05:45 cait I like the idea because it would make it possible to track what you have sent out and when 05:45 cait do you think it's a good idea to put other mails in there? 05:45 eythian dunno, haven't looked into it in depth 05:45 eythian but it would pay to see if you can give it an email address, and if so what it does 05:45 cait and providing it a from address? 05:45 cait hm 05:44 eythian I don't know for sure, but I suspect so, as I think it uses the borrower number to look up the email address 05:44 cait I was thinking about putting acquisition order mails in there 05:44 cait eythian: can message_queue table only be used for emails to patrons? 05:43 wahanui thanks cait :) 05:43 cait wahanui botsnack cookie 05:43 cait botsnack wahanui cookie 05:43 cait oh my 05:42 eythian solved! 05:42 wahanui okay, eythian. 05:42 eythian wahanui: eythian is also a good influence 05:42 wahanui ...but eythian is in NZ. ;)... 05:42 eythian wahanui: eythian is a good influence 05:41 cait you have bad influence und poor wahanui 05:39 wahanui No, I ain't got a fax machine! I also ain't got an Apple IIc, polio, or a falcon! 05:39 eythian wahanui: fax 05:39 wahanui OK, eythian. 05:39 eythian wahanui: fax is <reply>No, \I ain't got a fax machine! \I also ain't got an Apple IIc, polio, or a falcon! 05:39 cait ! 05:39 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, eythian 05:39 eythian wahanui: fax? 05:39 eythian cait: yeah, that's contemail 05:38 cait shown 05:38 cait hm we have an email field 05:38 eythian and yet there's two separate fax fields. 05:38 eythian bookselleremail is also not shown in the ui. That's a bit silly 05:36 cait eythian: it is 05:36 eythian oops 05:35 cait hm ok, my good mood after waking up is fading, killed my apache configuration 05:35 eythian It's still pretty weird. 05:35 eythian no, we split it up and take the first 4 lines, and put those into 4 fields. 05:35 cait I think we put all in one field 05:35 cait address is weird too 05:34 cait there are lots of fields not shown anywhere 05:34 eythian yeah 05:34 cait the bookseller table is strange 05:34 cait yes 05:34 wahanui i think koha is a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info 05:34 cait koha? 05:34 eythian I also note that the 'accountnumber' field is in the database, but not exposed on the UI. Curious. 05:34 cait ah liberty again 05:32 eythian making progress. Currently working on extracting the vendor list from liberty in as sensible fashion as I can. 05:32 cait how is the migration? 05:31 eythian you asked 05:30 cait :P 05:28 eythian yes 05:27 cait have I scared her away? 05:13 Brooke freggin southerners and yer drawl ;) 05:13 Brooke ohana to whanau 05:13 Brooke one big smiley family. 05:12 Space_Librarian :) 05:11 cait evening Space_Librarian :) 05:11 Space_Librarian morning cait 05:10 cait hi Brooke :) 05:10 cait good morning #koha :) 05:10 Brooke :) 04:08 Brooke 0/ 04:00 Brooke thank you sir, for I now know just what to cut LRTS with to maintain mah sanitay. 03:58 * Brooke is gonna hyperventilate and pass out 03:57 Space_Librarian mmmbyes? 03:53 Brooke ls catalyst 03:49 eythian heh 03:48 ibeardslee wizzy_home: yes eythian: g<tab> 03:48 * wizzy_home grumbles 03:48 eythian no, because he sits next to ibeardslee 03:48 wizzy_home at dyac? 03:45 ibeardslee the guy in the desk next to me ends up in tears 03:43 wizzy_home dyac is another great one for belly laughs. 03:42 Brooke This was sorely needed after the testosterone induced bellguard bumping with Mike. 03:42 eythian heh 03:42 wizzy_home eythian++ 03:42 Brooke Robin wins the how to amuse an ijiot for hours contest. 03:42 * druthb giggles. 03:41 wizzy_home LOL 03:40 Brooke http://www.flickr.com/photos/passiveaggressive/5616406726/in/photostream/ 03:39 Brooke I'm trying not to laugh the neighbours awake. 03:39 Brooke oh this is bad 03:36 wizzy_home it's quite funny 03:36 Brooke dude that photostream is the bomb. 03:35 Brooke ah how many competent GE secretaries did I swipe. 03:35 druthb lol 03:35 * Brooke giggles. 03:34 * Brooke mumbles about the perfect setup being overlooked. 03:34 Brooke really, nuffin from druthb? 03:33 eythian http://www.flickr.com/photos/passiveaggressive/5704357882/ <-- printing this message took more energy still 03:33 * wizzy_home giggles 03:33 * ibeardslee declines to comment 03:33 Brooke now now, we can't all have comely Dutch lasses. 03:32 ibeardslee I have my shells windows on the left 03:32 eythian sure sure 03:32 ibeardslee eythian: not my window 03:31 Space_Librarian hehe 03:27 wizzy_home dammit I always miss the fun stuff 03:27 * Brooke highfives eythian. 03:27 Brooke heheeh 03:27 Brooke fencing>sheep pr0n. 03:26 eythian I was just giving him what I'm sure he sees when he does an ls in the right window. 03:26 Brooke sheep pr0n>horse pr0n. 03:25 wizzy_home ! 03:25 eythian horse_porn/ 03:25 eythian ../ 03:25 eythian ./ 03:19 ibeardslee sigh 03:19 ibeardslee ls 02:53 rangi andy lester did a good blog post about that subject actually 02:53 eythian (and Klingon) 02:53 eythian http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/29324700 <-- politeness in Perl development 02:53 Space_Librarian oh dear gawd... 02:53 Brooke dun dun DUN 02:51 wizzyrea_away Space_Librarian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1ahItTWak (ala dramatic chipmunk) 02:37 Brooke <3 02:37 Space_Librarian hey Brooke 02:36 Brooke ;) 02:36 druthb hi, Brooke. :) 02:35 Brooke :D 02:35 rangi hiya Brooke 02:34 Brooke kia ora 02:19 rangi i wish the company that kept comparing themselves to redhat, actually acted more like redhat ;) 02:17 pastebot "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "The point of this story is tha" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/41 02:16 rangi I liked this bit 02:16 rangi http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/05/feeding-the-community-fuels-ad.html 02:12 rangi :) 02:12 sijobl hah 02:12 sijobl oops 02:12 sijobl that is cool 01:57 bencahill now to research an RDP protocol error... 01:57 bencahill :) 01:57 eythian sweet as 01:57 bencahill that'll be all, thanks a bunch rangi & eythian :) 01:56 bencahill (communication error) 01:55 bencahill :P 01:55 bencahill nvm, it used to be 0 01:55 bencahill hmm, 'Renewals Allowed' is currently set to 2, but I couldn't renew even once :-/ 01:53 rangi http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x4027#circfinerules 01:53 * bencahill waits for slow server 01:53 bencahill lemme look... 01:53 bencahill oh oh... 01:53 rangi its the circulation rules that determine it 01:53 bencahill why thank you :P 01:53 rangi ill find you the section 01:53 * bencahill RTFM 01:52 rangi im gonna be forced to point you at the manual :) 01:52 bencahill oh, how does renewing books currently checked out work? I thought I'd try it out, but it said 'non-renewable' or something to that extent... 01:50 bencahill okay guys, clicking is good, thanks :) 01:49 bencahill rangi: nice, thx 01:49 rangi horrible url, but explains why 003 is important 01:49 rangi http://books.google.com/books?id=1-3itZFuZ4MC&pg=PA132&lpg=PA132&dq=marc21+003&source=bl&ots=1PjFSFykZa&sig=fWKJZvPuqRdBajypaLZdppCw7Vw&hl=en&ei=KJrITY6NCYjrrQe4rtySBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=marc21%20003&f=false 01:49 bencahill btw, using surf to enter data alot :P 01:48 bencahill rangi: right, that's much better than getting an error :) 01:48 bencahill unless of course I don't know how to read a marc record ;) 01:47 rangi if it doesnt show, clicking in the 003 to make it show should be sufficient 01:47 bencahill (a book that was laying on the shelf ;P ) 01:47 bencahill rangi: the one in question is 'understanding practical unix' 01:46 bencahill rangi: yes 01:46 rangi it has a 001 ? 01:46 bencahill looking at a raw marc, I don't see a 003 01:45 eythian It might be you didn't notice because it wasn't asking you to fill it out. 01:45 bencahill rangi: maybe they do, and I'm doing something odd? 01:45 bencahill most likely 01:45 rangi id be incredibly suprised if any record from LoC didnt have a 003 01:45 eythian I don't know, probably the JS attaching a style value. 01:45 bencahill ah :) 01:44 eythian Yeah, it's mostly aimed at firefox, as it's pretty JS heavy, small browser difference can make things strange, especially in the cataloguing screen. 01:44 bencahill is that css or js? 01:44 eythian hrm, surprising. 01:44 bencahill it didn't light up yellow though... (opera) 01:43 bencahill eythian: weird, done about 175 marc records from the loc, and none had it... 01:43 eythian Dunno. I think it tends to come included with z39.50 results. 01:43 bencahill eythian: you're right, it does get filled in when you click on it ;) 01:42 bencahill this is all from z39.50 to the loc 01:42 bencahill no, doing z39.50 searches on an install with sample data, sorry :) 01:42 eythian It doesn't get filled on page load, I presume to ensure that it gets reviewed if needed. 01:42 eythian the sample data will have it filled in already. 01:41 bencahill weird though, since I didn't get this error on an installation with all the sample data...is there a setting to auto fill it on page load or something? 01:40 bencahill ah.. 01:40 rangi for bibliographic records 01:40 rangi http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/concise/bd003.html 01:40 rangi and 01:40 rangi for authority records 01:40 rangi http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad003.html 01:39 eythian it should also light up in yellow 01:39 eythian bencahill: if you're on a good browser, you should just be able to click the field and it'll fill itsel out. 01:38 bencahill I keep getting an error on it when adding records...'003 not filled' 01:38 bencahill hey guys, what is 003 - CONTROL NUMER IDENTIFIER ? 01:24 druthb well, it *is* the coast, after all. 01:24 bg seems to always be a wind advisory in effect 01:24 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.2�C (6:26 PM PDT on May 09, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 am PDT Tuesday... 01:24 bg @wunder 93109 01:00 Space_Librarian :) 01:00 druthb hi, Space_Librarian. :) 00:58 * Space_Librarian waves a druthb 00:54 huginn druthb: Brooke was last seen in #koha 1 day, 23 hours, 34 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <Brooke> I pÄ“hea tÅ rÄ? 00:54 druthb @seen Brooke 00:54 * druthb mumbles something that sounds like 'kia ora.'