Time Nick Message 23:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5509 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Packaging scripts get upset when there's an LDAP configuration in the koha_conf.xml 23:52 eythian Don't suppose anyone feels like doing a signoff on Bug 5509 for me...:) 23:38 space_librarian cool. I see a tornado just touched down near Quantico... sounds entertaining. :\ 23:15 rangi hehe 23:14 brendan_ bummer the Mets should move their baseball team here - never get any rainouts :) 23:14 brendan_ I guess 240 of them 23:14 rangi i never knew 23:14 huginn brendan_: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 21.2�C (4:16 PM PDT on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). 23:14 brendan_ @wunder 93109 23:14 rangi they get tornadoes in DC? 23:14 brendan_ let's compare that to here -- 23:13 brendan_ bummer 23:13 huginn brendan_: The current temperature in Eckington Pl, NE, Washington, District of Columbia is 24.8�C (7:14 PM EDT on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Rising). Tornado Watch 240 in effect until 2 am EDT Thursday... 23:13 brendan_ @wunder washington, dc 23:11 brendan_ night ian 23:11 sekjal goodnight, #koha! 23:11 sekjal okay, must obtain food 23:00 sekjal agreed. 22:58 rangi just pick the right one :) 22:58 rangi its also been done wrong by plenty of people 22:58 rangi yes 22:57 sekjal surely this is a problem that's already been solved by other perl hackers 22:55 rangi yep, has to be done right(tm) tho, or it opens the door to much hackage 22:54 sekjal_away good point. it's a non-trivial project, but it will open the doors to SOOOOOO many other enhancements. 22:54 rangi with those cavaets, i can see it could be useful for xslt etc/css/images etc 22:54 rangi any script that does uploading, needs to make sure its using taint, and doing lots of other checks 22:53 rangi which would allow for a modicum of security, at least the koha could only trash its own files, not anything owned by www-data 22:52 rangi the packages use an apache2 that can do suexec (mpm-itk) 22:52 rangi you are going to run into permissions problems 22:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6274 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Permanent storage of user-uploaded files 22:51 sekjal_away bug 6274: opinions? 22:43 biorisk ok thank you 22:42 rangi that way we can help you 22:42 rangi ahh the .koha-community.org sites are the official ones, so its best to get things from there 22:41 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 22:41 biorisk thanks 22:41 biorisk i try it 22:41 rangi http://debian.koha-community.org/ 22:41 rangi yes 22:41 biorisk do you know a repository to install koha in debian like? 22:41 rangi biorisk: do you want to run it in spanish? 22:40 rangi ah yeah, someone hasnt updated their webiste in a long long time obviously :) 22:40 biorisk from here http://koha.linti.unlp.edu.ar/descargas 22:40 rangi for a brand new install, i would suggest install koha 3.4.0 22:39 * rangi is curious where you even got a copy of it from 22:39 biorisk woww 22:39 rangi and about 30 versions ago 22:39 rangi its 6 years old 22:39 biorisk ok 22:39 rangi yeah, dont try to install koha 2.2.0 22:38 biorisk when i try to install Net::SMTP::SSL show me an error with IO::Socket::SSL dependance 22:37 rangi yes, where did you even get a copy of it? :) 22:37 eythian biorisk: on a scale of 1 to old, 2.2.0 is prehistoric. 22:35 biorisk koha version is 2.2.0 and ubuntu 10.10 22:33 rangi what version of Koha, and on what version of linux? 22:33 rangi looks like you missed installing some things 22:32 biorisk this is my error log: Can't locate Net/SMTP/SSL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/intranet/modules /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/modules/C4/AR/Mail.pm line 28. 22:32 biorisk i try to install koha and i have a error when i try to run koha 21:58 cait night rangi and thx :) 21:58 rangi night cait 21:58 cait bye all 21:58 cait no cookies - time to go to bed 21:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3543 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Spine labels - NLM call numbers not splitting 21:54 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 3543: split NLM call numbers in label creator 21:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #233: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/233/ 21:53 space_librarian i can believe that... 21:50 rangi its got the power to enslave the whole human race!! 21:50 space_librarian rangi: that is pretty damn cool. 21:50 cait brr 21:49 cait temperature here dropped about 10 degrees from yesterday to today 21:49 rangi http://soundcloud.com/figure/figure-super-mega-death-ray 21:49 rangi also, drumstep keeps me warm, with its super mega death ray goodness 21:48 rangi me too 21:48 cait cookie? 21:48 space_librarian I came prepared today: I brought a hoodie to work! 21:48 rangi man, its still freezing in here 21:47 space_librarian hey druthb! :D Thanks for the cookie. 21:46 space_librarian nom nom nom. :) 21:46 druthb librariansnack cookie :) 21:46 druthb hi, space_librarian! 21:45 space_librarian feeding the bots again? I think I like a bot calculator on hand. :) 21:41 druthb jcamins++ 21:41 wahanui :) 21:41 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie 21:41 wahanui 4 21:41 jcamins_away wahanui: 16**0.5 21:41 druthb I thought not. 21:41 wahanui druthb: what? 21:41 druthb wahanui: sqrt(16) 21:40 * druthb thinks. 21:40 druthb ah-hah. 21:40 wahanui 256 21:40 druthb wahanui: 4**4 21:40 druthb wahanui: 4^4 21:34 wahanui 323.25 21:34 rangi wahanui: 1293/4 21:34 rangi yep, handy 21:33 cait cool trick with wahanui 21:26 wahanui 222 21:26 rangi wahanui: 1 + 3 + 51 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 9 + 72 + 27 + 34 + 8 + 12 21:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 233 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3543: split NLM call numbers in label creator <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=139f7343f42c32e4bc1981bc072cf6ba05b20c0b> 21:08 * jcamins would prefer temperate 21:08 rangi i can always go sit in a pool when its hot 21:08 rangi ill take hot over cold any day 21:07 jcamins Yeah, looks like June is summer. :( 21:05 space_librarian less humid, anyway 21:05 * space_librarian agrees with jcamins 21:04 jcamins He hopes it will be, anyway. 21:03 * jcamins thinks the weather will be nicer in Budapest than Baton Rouge and New Orleans. 21:00 * jcamins too... Budapest, Baton Rouge, and New Orleans. 20:59 * space_librarian is envious 20:59 rangi man, im looking forward to june 20:58 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.9�C (2:00 PM PDT on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). 20:58 bg @wunder 93109 20:58 space_librarian hey cait, magnuse 20:58 cait hi space_librarian 20:56 magnuse gday space_librarian 20:55 space_librarian morning #koha :) 20:23 rangi upgrading perl, might put it out of support 20:23 rangi the contract is pretty specific about what packages they support 20:22 rangi yeah 20:22 sekjal I'll talk to their local IT guys 20:22 sekjal so I assume so 20:22 sekjal it's their campus-wide solution 20:22 rangi you need to be careful what you ugprade on redhat if they do 20:22 rangi ? 20:22 rangi sekjal: do they have a support agreement 20:22 sekjal but I'll work up a patch for perl 5.8.8 compatability 20:21 rangi redhat 20:21 rangi the old we only do security on this tiny subset of of packages 20:21 sekjal for the install, we're going to try upgrading perl to 5.10 first 20:21 sekjal sounds good 20:21 rangi oh god poor you 20:21 sekjal we're doing an installation on Red Hat 5.6 20:21 rangi sound like a plan? 20:21 rangi so we can just patch the 3.4.x branch 20:20 rangi at the next meeting ill propose we go for 5.10 in 3.6.x 20:20 rangi and not just for one operator :) 20:19 rangi its pretty hard to find a new machine with 5.8.8 on it these days, but we shouldnt break things without warning 20:19 rangi i should have caught that 20:18 rangi yeah, send a patch for that 20:18 sekjal rangi: yes, the ~~ 20:18 sekjal I was reading the discussion, and we agreed to keep it at 5.8.8 for 3.0 and 3.2 20:18 rangi the ~~ ? 20:18 rangi we talked about it, but i dont think it was ever formally decided 20:17 sekjal introduced with commit 265ed53f 20:17 sekjal okay, there is a dependency on a perl 5.10 operator in C4::Search that breaks make test on perl 5.8.8 20:15 rangi no 20:15 sekjal rangi: did we recently bump minimum perl version for Koha to 5.10 for Koha 3.4? 20:09 rangi chris_n: you about? 20:02 rangi back 19:57 rangi bbiab 19:57 rangi ok my stop 19:56 jcamins Yeah, that does make sense. 19:55 rangi specially with big koha, or lots of them 19:55 jcamins Hm. 19:55 jcamins Ah. 19:55 rangi cos it takes ages 19:55 jcamins Why can't you just do a koha-for-all remove_items_from_biblioitems? 19:54 rangi which we might end up asking liw questions about :) 19:54 rangi the other thing for 3.4.0 is the remove items from biblio script, and using something like debconf note to tell ppl to run it if they are upgrading 19:53 rangi its not required, but running it with memcached is a ton faster than storing sessions in mysql 19:52 rangi yes 19:52 rangi once its done for 3.4.0 3.4.1 becomes a bunch easier 19:52 jcamins Is that a new dependency? 19:51 magnuse yay! 19:50 rangi nonfunded work .. means it has to be done round the edges of what we are paid to do, but we'll get there 19:49 rangi once that is done, eythian will work on the main package 19:49 jcamins rangi: ah. 19:49 rangi cgi::session::memcached 19:49 rangi which eythian is working on, have to do it right, for it to be accepted into debian 19:48 jcamins rangi: what Perl module is missing? 19:48 rangi there is a perl module that needs packaging first 19:48 rangi no 19:47 adnc ;) 19:47 adnc rangi, packaged koha 3.4? 19:44 magnuse hang in there rangi! 19:43 rangi if I go quiet its cos I bounced out the roof 19:43 magnuse ouch! 19:42 rangi man the suspension on this bus is whacked out 19:42 NCARMichael well, at least in THIS respect 19:42 NCARMichael at least i know i'm not crazy 19:41 NCARMichael thx 4 your moral support ;) 19:41 NCARMichael anyway 19:41 NCARMichael what you said 19:41 NCARMichael yeah 19:41 NCARMichael Koha says it's for sound recordings 19:41 jcamins Huh. 19:41 jcamins For sound recordings? 19:40 jcamins NCARMichael: I'm not even sure what ANSCR is. 19:40 NCARMichael i'll have Galen take a look. 19:39 NCARMichael hm, it's still whacked. 19:39 rangi so a fresh install is fine, new records fine, but if you come from an older db check the UPGRADE section of the INSTALL file 19:38 rangi or you will just get messy results 19:38 NCARMichael whoa, default class source was set to ANSCR(!) 19:38 rangi in master, you need to have a db that has the item info out of the biblio 19:37 tcohen thanks rangi 19:37 tcohen i'll use the previous rebuild_zebra as a basis... 19:37 rangi tcohen: ah yep that happens 19:37 nengard wizzyrea around? 19:37 tcohen the problem i faced was that THE script failed because of bad records... 19:37 rangi liw: hehe 19:36 liw rangi, I no longer have the n900, Soile has it now; I have a nexus one, and I'm not sure which one is worse 19:36 NCARMichael i'll take a look 19:36 tcohen i'm sorry for that.... 19:36 jcamins NCARMichael: Check DefaultClassificationSource. 19:36 tcohen ohhhhhhhhh 19:36 rangi and not run the script to remove items from biblio? 19:35 jcamins NCARMichael: it should automatically use lcc if that's what you've selected as your call number system. 19:35 tcohen (in master) 19:35 tcohen rangi: i'm just working on a tools for checking records for troubles 19:35 NCARMichael well, i guess i'll send Galen an email and have him take a look. Do you know if there's a way to have my Koha instance use LOC instead of Dewey for the Inv Tool? 19:35 jcamins NCARMichael: hm. That looks like the same problem that the Dewey sort had. 19:34 rangi tcohen: have u recently upgraded? 19:33 rangi paste.koha-community.org 19:33 NCARMichael and QC145.45 .H4 D65 1998 is before QC145 .A57 V.12 1980 19:33 tcohen how do i use pastebot? 19:32 jcamins NCARMichael: No, I think that's just weird. ;) 19:32 rangi tcohen: nope at least it wasn't when I went to sleep 19:32 NCARMichael is that Dewey? 19:31 NCARMichael okay, so it puts QC995 .E29 1997 before QC100 .U57 NO. 555 1986 19:31 tcohen <record 19:31 tcohen sion="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> 19:31 tcohen </datafield> 19:31 jcamins lcc sorting should work fine, though. 19:31 jcamins NCARMichael: there was a very recent fix of Dewey sorting. 19:30 tcohen rangi: is rebuild_zebra.pl broken in master? 19:28 NCARMichael I suppose it could be standard Dewey and I'm just so LOC-oriented that I look at a Dewey sort and call it wrong. 19:27 NCARMichael k. standby. 19:26 jcamins Please. 19:26 NCARMichael maybe. i should go grab some examples. 19:26 NCARMichael Yeah. It's closest to a Dewey sort (and actually, I'd love to able to change it to LOC instead), but sometimes it does weird things. 19:26 jcamins 245.01 before 245? 19:25 jcamins Dewey sorting funny? 19:25 NCARMichael but not really 19:25 NCARMichael and they're KIND of in order 19:25 NCARMichael I plug in a call no range and it gives me a nice list of items 19:25 NCARMichael yeah, so Inventory ordering... 19:24 NCARMichael anyhoo 19:24 NCARMichael (waiting for someone to say yello + blue = green there) 19:24 NCARMichael i observed sthg this morning whilst using the Inventory Tool...thought perhaps I'd see what others thought. 19:24 rangi blue there :) 19:23 magnuse yello to you too NCARMichael ;-) 19:22 NCARMichael yello there 19:17 magnuse ether: http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ 19:17 library_systems_guy i suppose other than that the codedoc is just in the code 19:17 library_systems_guy ether, http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Documentation 19:12 ether is there any code documentation? 19:10 cait hi nengard 19:10 nengard :) 19:10 magnuse kia ora nengard 19:07 sekjal back in a little bit, #koha 19:05 magnuse o/ 19:05 * cait waves 19:03 rangi bbiab 19:02 rangi good timing 19:02 rangi ohh lindas question on the mailing list 19:02 * magnuse just installed ubuntu on his mac mini - and must get a real keyboard tomorrow... 19:01 wizzyrea u got it ;) 19:00 magnuse thanks wizzyrea (not sure i am registered with huginn...) 19:00 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #130 added. 19:00 wizzyrea @quote add rangi: or you could save time and just slam your head on the desk multiple times now, cos without tracking ur changes, ull be doing that after trying to upgrade 18:59 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #129 added. 18:59 wizzyrea @quote add jcamins: take to heart the old saying- 'don't be a git, use git. 18:58 ether i know , wasnt refering to git but to actual changing of the codes 18:57 library_systems_guy nor is any knowledge of svn useful lol 18:57 magnuse someone add that bit about slamming ones head to the quotes, please? ;-) 18:57 cait you don't need perl knowledge for using git :) 18:57 * jcamins likes his slogan. Maybe that should be one of the Koha mantras. 18:56 cait lol 18:55 rangi :) 18:55 ether i will do like you say...just that it will take time to get familiar with whats being done in those perl codes, i know howto using the ldaputils but to transition it to perl is where i'll have a challenge 18:55 rangi or you could save time and just slam your head on the desk multiple times now, cos without tracking ur changes, ull be doing that after trying to upgrade 18:53 jcamins ether: what everyone is trying to say is, "take to heart the old saying- 'don't be a git, use git.'" :D 18:52 sekjal ether: I HIGHLY recommend you use Git for any local changes you make. This'll make it easier to test things out without risk of breakage, and any solution you come up with can be propogated into future releases (or better yet, contributed back to Koha!) 18:51 cait and you will make other libraries happy too :) 18:51 cait general_solutions++ 18:51 ether i did a quick 3hr crash on perl but i already forgotten what i learnt 18:50 rangi then u dont have local changes 18:50 rangi the real win, is general solutions that you send upstream 18:49 ether yes i did a git change on the ubuntu docs before, my difficulty is understanding those perl codes ..in dont know perl well and i notice alot of mnemonic of perl that i need to go figure 18:49 * jcamins is crazy, but he uses version control. 18:49 wizzyrea (and have the horror stories to prove it ;)) 18:49 rangi and only the crazy ones dont use version control 18:48 wizzyrea and if you don't do that, for god's sake use git 18:48 rangi its only a few who modify locally 18:48 library_systems_guy oh... 18:48 rangi 99.9% of koha users run from a release unchanged 18:47 rangi library_systems_guy: you are joking right? 18:47 sekjal hi, rangi! 18:47 library_systems_guy why do we even offer the tarbell 18:47 rangi is the answer 18:47 rangi for god sakes use git 18:47 sekjal ether: are you familiar with git? 18:46 sekjal library_systems_guy: hasn't come up yet 18:46 library_systems_guy sekjal, have you told ether the problems you may face with updating after code changes locally? 18:44 ether maybe koha could either store the current user bind and used it to bind and change the password with ldap if necessary 18:43 ether this as my ldap allows each user access to change their password 18:42 ether the user i used for the bind i had hoped would be used just for locating the bind of the user to be logged in, after locating that bind i had expected a rebind using the current user bind and supplied password 18:42 sekjal so if LDAP auth fails, you can't get into that account at all 18:42 sekjal the solution is probably to enable a way to tell Koha not to store that local password value 18:41 sekjal since the LDAP auth fails, it falls back to authenticating against Koha, and since Koha keeps a hashed copy of the LDAP password the last successfully authenticated 18:40 adnc sorry 18:40 adnc UPDATE items SET barcode = ( SELECT @c := @c + 1) ORDER BY itemnumber ASC; 18:40 library_systems_guy sekjal, really? Well i suppose that makes sense 18:40 ether currently thats where i have an issue 18:39 library_systems_guy ether, should be provided that the user you're using for the bind has the correct permissions in ldap 18:39 sekjal interesting issue with LDAP and passwords: If you update your password in LDAP, you'll still be able to log into Koha with the old password until you log in with the new one 18:39 ether should be in net:ldap 18:39 library_systems_guy heh 18:39 jcamins library_systems_guy: yeah, I know. I was just talking yesterday with someone about how much sense it would make if Koha automatically fell back to the Koha db if LDAP failed. 18:39 ether i suspect the call to update ldap password shouldnt be difficult though 18:38 library_systems_guy jcamins, yeah otherwise people that didn't exists in ldap koha wouldn't care about 18:37 jcamins Cool! 18:37 ether but i have other system integrated with this ldap that'll make changes from time to time some i want update/replicate 18:37 jcamins sekjal: wait, it already falls back to local Koha authentication? 18:37 library_systems_guy i promise thats the last time ill be wrong today :-/ 18:36 library_systems_guy oh boo 18:36 ether i think so too 18:36 sekjal LDAP is checked first, then it falls back to local Koha authentication 18:36 library_systems_guy hmm, I thought if update was off it would only poll ldap if the user didn't exist in the koha db 18:35 sekjal library_systems_guy: I believe even then it will update the password 18:35 ether given update is set at 1 and chain of checkk is ldap-->local..etc 18:35 cait I am on the wrong computer - can't check hot it's called 18:35 library_systems_guy *thinks cait has the best idea 18:35 cait in koha 18:35 cait ether: I think there is an option to hide the password change 18:35 library_systems_guy and just replicate is on 18:35 library_systems_guy sekjal, what if update is turned off 18:35 ether i realize it will 18:34 ether would love if it was done from koha though 18:34 sekjal ether: the LDAP password will overwrite whatever local password is in Koha 18:34 library_systems_guy sekjal, you're right if you are just talking about default functionality (IE without code mods) 18:34 ether i'll have to ensure the users know that pw changes in koha wont stick then..will try find a way to redirect pw changes to ldap 18:32 ether ok thx 18:32 sekjal ether: I don't believe that Koha can update any information in the LDAP... the data flow is only from LDAP to Koha 18:31 ether sekjal, can koha update userpass in the ldap? 18:28 sekjal gladly 18:28 adnc thanks 18:28 sekjal items.barcode 18:28 sekjal items table 18:28 adnc sekjal, item barcode 18:27 sekjal adnc: item barcode or patron barcode? 18:27 adnc which table is the barcode stored? 18:24 ether ok so i would have to edit the code in authldap.pm, and check the key after it retrieved that particular mapping in order to have the split, hmm too static, too much hassle for just one value 18:21 sekjal ether: there isn't any code to specify which attribute to use, so it would default to whatever Net::LDAP returned. 18:20 ether sekjal, my ldap has a attribute thats multivalued, is there a way to have koha only retrieve only one of its values? 18:13 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.0�C (11:15 AM PDT on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising). 18:12 bg @wunder 93109 18:07 sekjal the problem with the blind checking in of items comes down to the same problem as the bulk return from the patron detail page... 18:07 sekjal hdl: thanks! 18:07 hdl you can do whatever you want import some records... and you can test 18:06 hdl you can see http://borrowers34.git.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl test test 18:05 adnc ;) 18:05 cait adnc: Ich glaube, er war schon wach ;) 18:03 hdl sekjal: if you can checkout circulation branches or see the commits we did, there is something done about checking in multiple items and holds management. 17:58 adnc cait, nich gut ne ;) 17:56 adnc sorry, didn't know you are on a different time zone. go to bed again, ;) 17:55 adnc ohh 17:54 cait go back to bed! :) 17:54 rangi :) 17:54 rangi who is pinging me at 6am? 17:52 adnc rangi, ping! 17:44 cait sekjal++ 17:39 tcohen sekjal 17:39 tcohen thanks sekjañl 17:35 sekjal quickslip is just today's checkouts; slip has all the currently checked out items 17:35 tcohen do some1 know what qslip and slip differ on? 17:32 sekjal gladly, ether! 17:32 ether thx sekjal 17:32 ether lol 17:32 ether YUP that was it how i didnt see that 17:31 ether hmm branchcode needs change hmm ;) copy paste 17:28 ether let me double check 17:28 sekjal do you have a MAIN branchcode and PT categorycode configured? 17:27 ether i have cardnumber as password becuz all users have thier id as password for now ;) 17:26 ether </mapping> 17:26 ether <phone is="telephonenumber"></phone> 17:26 ether <categorycode is="employeetype" >PT</categorycode> 17:26 ether <cardnumber is="userpassword" ></cardnumber> 17:26 ether <email is="mail" ></email> 17:26 ether <password is="userpassword" ></password> 17:26 ether <userid is="uid" ></userid> 17:26 ether <branchcode is="branch" >MAIN</branchcode> 17:26 ether <zipcode is="postalcode" ></zipcode> 17:26 ether <city is="l" >Kingston, JM</city> 17:26 ether <address is="postaladdress" ></address> 17:26 ether <surname is="sn" ></surname> 17:26 ether <firstname is="givenname" ></firstname> 17:26 ether <mapping> <!-- match koha SQL field names to your LDAP record field names --> 17:25 ether yes i think i do 17:25 sekjal do you have patron category and branchcode mapped? 17:25 sekjal probably trouble with your <mapping> 17:24 sekjal ether: so it looks like you're getting as far as the bind, which is good 17:22 ether help!!! 17:22 ether AddMember failed at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm line 152. 17:22 ether i enabled ldap auth an when i try to login as a ldap user i get this. Software error: 17:16 adnc hello koha 17:10 wizzyrea i'm going to have to do it over 17:10 wizzyrea meh. forget I sent that 17:07 wizzyrea urg. 17:05 wizzyrea there's some duplicate stuff in there that shouldn't be 17:05 wizzyrea oh you know what though 17:04 jcamins Never mind. 17:04 jcamins Apparently it does. 17:03 wizzyrea does it not work? 17:03 wizzyrea i just tried it 17:03 wizzyrea yes 17:02 jcamins wizzyrea: does that page actually print, though? 16:59 sekjal is it a problem with Koha that you can just keep scanning in these materials without dealing with the confirmation box? or is it a problem with the practices of the library staff? 16:59 cait hm 16:57 sekjal I mean, if you're just scanning in book after book, it's very easy to scan past the holds notification confirmation box, which means the hold is never marked as 'waiting' for the next person 16:57 cait s/and/or 16:57 cait our libraries are too small and use self checks 16:56 sekjal was discussing this with some folks last night, but wanted to bring it up with the day crowd: checking in multiple items and not confirming holds. problem? 16:54 wizzyrea I think that's what I would expect too 16:54 cait perhaps naive :) 16:52 cait I woul dexpect it to be the library where the item is checked out and returned 16:52 wizzyrea (imo) 16:52 cait hm 16:52 wizzyrea so, that slip should have printed library A, not library B 16:52 wizzyrea use the checkout rules of the library you are logged in at 16:51 wizzyrea circcontrol is set to... 16:51 wizzyrea but this circ belonged to library A, for patron 1, and patron 1 had a home library of library b. Library b was printed on the receipt 16:50 wizzyrea that's what I would have expected too 16:50 wizzyrea hmm 16:50 hdl (the branch where the issue belongs.) 16:49 hdl i think it is displaying the CircControlBranch library 16:45 wizzyrea also interesting is the fact that in multi-branch systems the receipts print the home library of the patron, not the set library 16:44 wizzyrea i'm trying it another way... sec 16:42 rhcl Well, i donno 16:41 wizzyrea I just double checked that, and in fact the branch addresses are not on the slip 16:40 cait hi again #koha 16:39 wizzyrea and they're not on the slip 16:39 wizzyrea mmm I have addresses in there 16:38 rhcl that's how we're doing it currently in 3.2 16:38 wizzyrea i'm looking at 3.4 16:37 rhcl maybe that's why it's apparently improved for 3.4? 16:37 wizzyrea there's nothing obvious in there to me that says "put this on the slip" 16:36 rhcl ? 16:36 rhcl administration - libraries,branches,groups - edit branch 16:31 wizzyrea kk ty 16:30 nengard and once he tells us i can put it in the manual :) 16:30 nengard so he might know better 16:30 nengard but i think gmcharlt wrote that or signed off on that 16:30 wizzyrea oooo 16:30 nengard i think it's command line ... cause i've never seen it in the gui 16:29 wizzyrea do you know where the "add address /phone to slips" is done? 16:29 nengard k 16:29 wizzyrea nengard, question for you 16:28 wizzyrea not yet ^.^ 16:28 nengard wizzyrea are you doing something pretty? 16:25 wizzyrea :P 16:25 wizzyrea i'm pretty excited about intranetuserCSS 15:52 mib_oannkf :/ 15:52 jcamins mib_oannkf: I don't think it's possible to do what you want. 15:51 mib_oannkf allowonshelfholds is off 15:50 kf like me now :) see you all later 15:50 kf off 15:50 kf allowonshelfholds 15:49 mib_oannkf the problem is if a biblio has 4 items and 1 is checked out it's possible to reserve that item... but there is 3 items available, to there is no need to allow reservation... 15:48 jcamins mib_oannkf: you're going to have to explain what you want. 15:48 mib_oannkf but I want the items to be reserved... 15:47 jcamins On the items. 15:47 mib_oannkf on the biblioitem? 15:44 jcamins Yes, use an item type that doesn't permit holds. 15:43 mib_oannkf tell me one thing... it is possible to block holds/reserves on biblio that have items available? 15:42 mib_oannkf hi guys :) 15:20 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 15:20 huginn rhcl: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 15:20 rhcl huginn needs an apropos argument, something like: >hugging apropos bug about customizable receipts 15:05 nengard there are also the RFCs on the wiki 15:05 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/about/enhancing-koha/ 15:05 nengard but i'm not sure how often it's used 15:05 nengard there is a status in bugzilla for that 15:04 rhcl isn't there a list somewhere of Koha development work that's waiting for funding 14:55 wizzyrea right 14:55 jcamins Quote 123. I was wondering if wahanui had memorized that the answer to that was "is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" 14:54 wizzyrea if there? 14:54 * jcamins wants to know what it is that wahanui is saving, that it keeps on protesting to huggin. 14:54 wizzyrea if there? 14:53 jcamins #thingsihavelearnt if there? 14:53 druthb lol 14:53 huginn druthb: Quote #61: "*wizzyrea doesn't like hoity toity technical talk...<wizzyrea> wait, that's a lie" (added by jdavidb at 05:19 PM, February 24, 2010) 14:53 druthb @quote random 14:46 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 14:46 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 14:46 wizzyrea @quote get 123 14:44 jcamins Hm. 14:44 jcamins kf: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA? 14:44 jcamins I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA? 14:43 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 14:43 huginn kf: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 14:43 kf @quote 123 14:25 rhcl http://tinyurl.com/pylecenter 14:23 wizzyrea http://conferencing.uwex.edu/location.cfm 14:22 wizzyrea that's my understanding 14:22 rhcl Ha, maybe the Pyle Center is a specific building? 14:21 rhcl Where (what building) is the meeting? I'm looking through my notes and printouts and don't see that specific info. 14:20 wizzyrea where late = 10pm to the airport 14:20 druthb I have a "drinks" plan for later Sunday evening, but my sked is clear for dinner. 14:17 sekjal rhcl: druthb, bg and I will be arriving later that Sunday afternoon/evening. nothing planned for that night as far as I know 14:17 jwagner rhcl, I'm on a tight schedule -- coming in early Monday morning & leaving Tuesday afternoon. But I'd be interested in hearing who all is coming. 14:15 rhcl I still don't know my itinerary for sure, but I think I leave MCI @ around 6 am 'ish. 14:14 wizzyrea i'm getting in pretty late. 14:14 rhcl I coffee need. 14:14 rhcl Is anything informal planned for the Sunday before Monday (yea, that Sunday) before Kudos? 14:07 ether i've being searching for hours to find a relevant comparison for ils but no luck 13:56 tcohen if i manage to elaborate on this i'll post a comment on the list 13:55 tcohen I have to say that I got a bit worried about how it is handled 13:55 tcohen jcamins: thanks, i found it already 13:53 jcamins tcohen: check your frameworks. 13:52 tcohen i tracked through C4/Items.pm and Biblio.pm and just when I arrived the default .sql files for frameworks found that 13:51 nengard that would be my assumption .. but no i don't know for sure 13:51 nengard um 13:49 tcohen nengard? do u know? 13:47 tcohen is items.dateaccessioned the right place to search for 952$d? 13:47 tcohen hi #koha 13:30 mib_h2wz2x thanks for the help anyway :) 13:29 jcamins mib_h2wz2x: well, that's what you'll have to do, then. 13:29 mib_h2wz2x the only option is to activate the not for loan override policy... 13:28 jcamins mib_h2wz2x: I don't think you can have it both ways, sorry. 13:28 mib_h2wz2x But I have too... because some books can't get out of the library... they are used for statistical but the statistical user in Koha is very limited (doesn't saves the history) 13:26 jcamins mib_h2wz2x: you shouldn't have any items marked not for loan. That's why you use circ rules. 13:26 mib_h2wz2x I have a rule for that but the items marked as not for loan can't be checkout... 13:25 jcamins mib_h2wz2x: then the only way you can do that is with circ rules. 13:24 mib_h2wz2x yes i know that but i need to have one type of category that can checkout everything even item marked as not for loan 13:23 jcamins mib_h2wz2x: saying that certain patron categories can't check out any books of a certain itemtype is the same as saying those itemtypes are not for loan to those patron categories. 13:23 mib_h2wz2x i'll have to activate the override policy 13:23 mib_h2wz2x the solution of mark the itemtype not for loan 13:22 kf ? 13:21 mib_h2wz2x that solution doesn't work for me because of the library policy... 13:20 kf what you can do is don't mark the itemtype not for loan but use only circ rules. Some categories can check out 0 of the item type, others more 1+ 13:19 kf no, without the override afaik not 13:19 mib_h2wz2x (without activate AllowNotForLoanOverride) 13:18 mib_h2wz2x guys it is possible in Koha to loan itens that are not for loan for some patron categorie? 13:17 * kf waves 13:12 mib_h2wz2x hi there Koha friends:) 12:42 tcohen tmpfs++ 12:37 jcamins loopback_filesystems++ 12:28 ether hey guys 12:21 kf thank you all! 12:21 kf great 12:20 nengard kf i'm sending you the email i found 12:19 kf nengard: another question about the tag cloud - do you rmember the question? name 3 things you love about koha? 12:14 jwagner Not a school or special library, but http://scls.kohalibrary.com and one of its many member branches http://acl.scls.kohalibrary.com are quite nice. 12:13 * kf has to go css hunting when that presentation is over 12:12 druthb Yah. That's all done with sysprefs, of course--no custom templates or anything. 12:11 JesseM druthb every time I see that OPAC i'm amazed 12:10 kf druthb: I would say it's fancy - looks great 12:10 conan hi everyone 12:09 druthb Nothing fancy, but I like it. 12:09 jcamins kf: yes, so that they won't break. 12:09 druthb http://beckercat.wustl.edu/ 12:09 kf druthb: link? 12:09 kf jcamins: plastic wine glasses? 12:08 * jcamins is very glad that all his wine glasses are plastic. 12:07 druthb University medical school library good? 12:06 kf another question: I am searching for a school or special library with a nice catalog 12:06 nengard np 12:06 kf cool, thx nengard! 12:05 nengard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/File:Zecloud2.png 12:04 nengard yes, brooke did have something like that 12:02 kf didn't we have a cloud with things we love about koha (from kohacon, made by brooke) somewhere? 11:59 jcamins Yeah, he seems fine, though angry that I won't let him play with the glass. 11:58 kf hope myshkin is ok? 11:57 nengard :( 11:56 jcamins What a great thing to discover... Myshkin broke a glass and the living room is covered in shards of glass. 11:55 hdl nengard: in marc21, you have copyrightdate and publicationyear 11:55 nengard yes the copyrightyear is populated 11:55 kf nengard: I remember there was a difference between marc21 and unimarc mappings - I believe for marc21 it's probably copyrightyear 11:54 kf nengard: check unimarc 11:53 nengard that's my guess too 11:53 jcamins_away nengard: pretty sure it isn't. 11:50 nengard does anyone know if biblioitems.publicationyear is actually populated? 11:00 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4959] Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4959> 10:50 * SpaceLibrarian_home turns off the lights. :) 10:49 SpaceLibrarian_home in the words of my horribly mangled and long disused second language.... goeie nag... 10:49 magnuse good night, new zealand! 10:49 * rangi wanders off 10:49 SpaceLibrarian_home yup 10:48 chilts ditto 10:48 rangi right i should go to sleep 10:43 magnuse had in nz, at least 10:43 rangi ahh right 10:42 magnuse rangi: i think slef has something with symbian on it 10:42 rangi heh 10:42 magnuse or rangi, perhaps 10:42 rangi and maybe slef too? 10:42 magnuse tangi: yeah i like to think so 10:42 rangi im 99% sure thats what liw has 10:42 * druthb uses WebOS (Palm Pre Plus) 10:42 rangi yeah n900 are really cool 10:41 * magnuse can't really imagine a better phone then nokia n900 with maemo (hey, it's based on debian!) 10:41 rangi :) 10:41 rangi or theres android 10:41 rangi theres supporting child labour and selling your soul to the devil 10:41 * SpaceLibrarian_home wasn't going to sell anymore of her soul to apple. 10:41 rangi well theres not even a melee there 10:41 * druthb figured out the second-best way to stay out of the whole iphone-vs-droid melee. 10:40 SpaceLibrarian_home It's the prime reason I got a smart phone. 10:40 chilts heh 10:40 rangi 2043 10:40 * chilts has it planned 10:40 chilts maybe later in the year 10:40 chilts I'll get Android when I stop being a luddite :) 10:39 * SpaceLibrarian_home used to have a Nokia. Now she has a Samsung running android... 10:38 rangi the trick is finding a handset manufacturer who isnt mental 10:38 chilts but I'm thinking of getting something else anyway 10:37 chilts I have Nokia ... I like their classical interface 'coz it's fast 10:37 rangi i think he has to, being finnish, i think they give you one at birth :-) 10:37 rangi and liw 10:36 rangi nokia used to be cool, i think slef has one too 10:36 * magnuse is almost ashamed to own a nokia - but hey, it's got Maemo! 10:33 rangi yeah its crazy eh 10:33 chilts I can't imagine 7000 people getting laid off, that's massive 10:32 rangi going with windows 7 instead of android, really working out for them 10:32 rangi http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/jobs/nokia-to-cut-7000-jobs-outsources-symbian-activities-to-accenture/articleshow/8099244.cms 10:29 gmcharlt heh, true 10:28 rangi that was a short sleep gmcharlt 10:28 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #60: "<owen> My 9-month-old may not be walking yet, but she's got great bib control." (added by gmcharlt at 05:31 PM, February 19, 2010) 10:28 gmcharlt @quote random 10:28 * kf waves 10:17 * druthb waves 09:51 Cybermon all: thanks for creative support in Mongolian koha installation. :-) 09:50 Cybermon i see. don't worry. 09:47 kf Cybermon: sorry, busy day - I am from Germany 09:10 Cybermon kf: where are you from ? 09:03 Cybermon how are you ? 09:02 kf hi Cybermon 09:02 Cybermon hi all 09:01 magnuse hiya Cybermon 08:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0�C (10:30 AM CEST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 08:53 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:53 magnuse hm 08:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0�C (10:20 AM CEST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). 08:53 magnuse @wunder boo 08:50 kf hmpf 08:50 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.9�C (10:50 AM CEST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). 08:50 kf @wunder Konstanz 08:47 rangi 11 my butt 08:47 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). 08:47 rangi @wunder wellington nz 08:46 SpaceLibrarian_home hey AmitG 08:36 AmitG heya SpaceLirarian 07:51 SpaceLibrarian_home hi magnuse :) 07:51 magnuse hiya SpaceLibrarian_home 07:50 SpaceLibrarian_home hey kf 07:49 kf hi SpaceLibrarian_home 07:43 kf paul_p: hm thought it should be pretty save - no items or borrowers deleted 07:42 kf rangi, paul_p: thx :) 07:42 paul_p my main fear is that some tables could have been forgotten and the DB being inconsistent :( 07:36 rangi just in case 07:35 rangi id dump the tables first 07:35 paul_p I think that should be fine. Checked the DB quickly, and don't see any dependancy missed 07:33 rangi that should be fine kf 07:29 kf the library starts collecting fines now and wants the old histories and writeoffs etc deleted 07:29 paul_p I don't see any problem, but it's not the part of Koha I know the best 07:28 kf yes 07:28 paul_p kf: you want to do that on one of your database ? 07:27 kf paul_p: do you see a problem with truncating accontlines and removing fine related entries from statistics and action_logs? 07:26 paul_p hi kf 07:26 kf hi paul_p 07:24 kf my test system looks ok, but I don't want to miss something 07:23 kf hm, question: library wants all information about fines deleted from system. good idea to truncate accountlines and delete fine related entries from statistics and action logs? or bad plan? 07:20 magnuse bonjour biblibre 07:18 sophie_m Guten Tag kf 07:18 kf hi magnuse, hdl and sophie_m 07:04 magnuse guten morgen kf 07:04 kf hi again #koha 07:04 sophie_m hello #koha 07:03 alex_a bonjour #koha 07:02 magnuse kia ora #koha 06:51 francharb bonjour all 06:26 cait hi AmitG 06:25 AmitG heya cait 06:08 cait wanted to show how dev works... will probably scare them 06:08 cait thx :) 06:06 Oak good luck 05:55 cait 80 minutes 05:52 Oak long? 05:52 cait I am good, long presentation tomorrow 05:51 Oak \o 05:51 pianohacker Hello, cait. How's it going? 05:50 cait hallo pianohacker :) 05:48 pianohacker Hallo 05:40 Brooke_ bid! 05:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6259 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW, AllowHoldPolicyOverride ON causes every staff hold to require override 05:35 jenkins_koha Ian Walls: Bug 6259: AllowHoldPolicyOverride causes every hold to need override 05:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #232: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/232/ 05:35 Brooke_ feel better. 05:35 Brooke_ Death by bullshite! 05:35 * eythian goes away now, bye all 05:35 Brooke_ though I suppose I pester through humour. 05:34 Brooke_ I thought pestering was my domain :P 05:34 eythian fair point :) 05:33 cait but you know, bug wrangler's job is pestering people ;) 05:29 eythian OK :) 05:29 cait it was only a friendly nudge - I am busy with this presentation too 05:29 eythian that makes more sense 05:29 eythian *hang around tonight 05:29 eythian I plan to try 05:29 cait get better :) 05:28 eythian so am not going to hand around tonight 05:28 eythian oh yeah, that. I forgot. Another day, I think I'm getting sick. 05:27 eythian cait: beetle? 05:27 cait eythian: bug! :) 05:12 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 22.0�C (1:14 AM EDT on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). 05:12 druthb @wunder 20852 05:11 Brooke_ a fine thing for a sail :P 05:11 Brooke_ pfft 05:09 eythian it doesn't mention the 50kph wind :( 05:09 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (5:00 PM NZST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 05:09 eythian @wunder wellington, nz 05:08 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0�C (7:00 AM CEST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa (Falling). 05:08 cait @wunder Konstanz 05:08 cait it rains 05:08 cait oh 05:07 Brooke_ cheers 05:03 space_librarian :) 05:03 * druthb waves to space_librarian 05:03 space_librarian cya ya'll later.... 05:03 * space_librarian waves at druthb 05:03 druthb harrrrumph! 05:02 Brooke_ hope you've recovered from that horrible bore you were spotted with earlier 05:02 druthb o/ 05:02 Brooke_ 0/ 04:54 jenkins_koha Starting build 232 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 04:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5445 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Acq: No way back to order from z39.50 result page 04:54 jenkins_koha Katrin Fischer: Bug 5445: Nicer breadcrumbs when ordering from different sources 04:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #231: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/231/ 04:38 space_librarian haha 04:38 Brooke_ must have the wrong Brooke 04:38 Brooke_ oh gods no 04:37 space_librarian :p Excellent. I knew you had good taste. 04:37 Brooke_ space_librarian: I've got it. 04:37 eythian also, my brain just isn't switched on today, so there's not much point me having a long day. 04:37 space_librarian Brooke_: I believe the correct term is "timey wimey wibbley wobbley stuff", not pfft. 04:37 Brooke_ you could be all like "This yank said it was o tay." 04:36 eythian He's already left :) 04:36 Brooke_ close enough to quitting time ye could skive off without Mr. Christie noticing ;) 04:36 Brooke_ pfft 04:36 eythian It's the afternoon 04:36 * space_librarian laughs 04:36 * Brooke_ notes that the koha channel is sweet at night. 04:35 Brooke_ and you can also "test" a wee patch 04:35 space_librarian true dat. 04:35 Brooke_ but you can know the history 04:35 Brooke_ aye 04:35 eythian because it's pretty varable 04:35 eythian Brooke_: you can't really check it 04:35 * space_librarian agrees. 04:35 Brooke_ that would definitely be summat I checked and double checked... 04:35 space_librarian which is why I like my ink... 04:34 space_librarian yep. 04:34 eythian erk :/ 04:34 * space_librarian has a friend who's scarring really didn't work out. 04:33 eythian I can give you an in-progress photo, too. But it might be be a bit much for a family friendly channel. 04:33 Brooke_ that is a nice one 04:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6259: AllowHoldPolicyOverride causes every hold to need override <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6059599fac4cfd0b12af48348a6d349974205697> 04:33 space_librarian you're not seeing that close up though. 04:32 eythian http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Fzq94YVbHHM/SBcwcPzm5SI/AAAAAAAAJI4/ZJo_Ac1Z6QM/s1600-h/Scarification_07.jpg <-- space_librarian, beg to differ 04:31 space_librarian scarfication never ends well 04:31 Brooke_ was over sun dance. 04:31 Brooke_ though one of the big fights I've had 04:31 Brooke_ scarification... 04:31 Brooke_ I'm willing to tattoo until the sun comes up 04:31 eythian Although can look good. (or, can look terrible.) 04:31 * Brooke_ nods. 04:30 eythian man, I was reading something about scarification earlier today. That's quite mad. 04:30 Brooke_ you're less scarred that way, dear. 04:29 eythian I'm doomed never to know... 04:29 Brooke_ I could respond, Eythian, but you'd not like the answer I'd supply. 04:28 eythian Brooke_: 2.9? 04:27 space_librarian she is. 04:27 Brooke_ cait's up with the birds. 04:27 space_librarian :) 04:26 cait :) 04:26 * Brooke_ feels the <3 04:26 * space_librarian wave at Brooke_ 04:26 space_librarian I really should sit properly when typing... 04:26 * Brooke_ salutes Rangi 04:26 rangi hi Brooke_ 04:26 Brooke_ :D 04:26 space_librarian :p 04:26 space_librarian ora 04:25 space_librarian kia pra! 04:25 Brooke_ kia ora 04:24 rangi hiya cait 04:24 rangi chris_n: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commits_to_cherry-pick_for_3.4 <-- ive just updated this, please cross any out as you move them 04:24 space_librarian morning cait 04:24 cait morning #koha 04:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5445: Nicer breadcrumbs when ordering from different sources <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=883bc625b29f8d36064724479fe975e8b6b22f1a> 04:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 231 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 04:13 AmitG heya galen 04:10 rangi sweet 04:10 gmcharlt yep 04:09 rangi you at the eg conf? 04:09 rangi heh 04:09 wahanui gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. 04:09 rangi heya gmcharlt 04:09 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one does not bask in the Potomac River basin...you melt or swelter or something, but you don't bask. :P" (added by jwagner at 01:17 PM, January 24, 2011) 04:09 gmcharlt @quote random 03:41 AmitG heya mtj 03:38 mtj hi AmitG 03:24 AmitG heya chris 03:24 AmitG heya all 03:22 huginn space_librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (3:00 PM NZST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 03:22 space_librarian @wunder wellington, nz 00:16 glernil ;) 00:16 space_librarian g'day glernil 00:15 glernil good day! 00:13 sekjal must depart; it's well past dinner time 00:12 sekjal I think doing right the first sweep is the way to go... somehow changing the focus.... will work on a bug report and patch 00:11 space_librarian that may work. Especially if you're needing to print holding slips too. 00:06 eythian that's not a bad idea. Or, ones that go unconfirmed perhaps, they could be batch-confirmed afterwards or something. 00:05 sekjal that way, they could at least go back and say "Oh, whoops, scanned right past that one" 00:05 sekjal another idea this library had was to highlight checked in items that have holds on them in Red in the list of returned materials 00:04 space_librarian that is a staff problem then, yeah... I never enjoyed saying that to a patron when I was working circ, and it happened surprisingly often. 00:01 sekjal the patron is already there trying to checkout... can't say to them "oh, sorry, this is on hold for someone else" 00:01 sekjal but, at least for the library I'm working with right now, that's too late 00:01 sekjal if the item is on hold for somebody, whether or not it's 'waiting', there is a dialog at checkout 00:00 space_librarian Haven't played with issuing yet. 00:00 space_librarian and something to stop the book being issued to anybody other than the hold requester... or does it do that already?