Time Nick Message 00:00 space_librarian and something to stop the book being issued to anybody other than the hold requester... or does it do that already? 00:00 space_librarian Haven't played with issuing yet. 00:01 sekjal if the item is on hold for somebody, whether or not it's 'waiting', there is a dialog at checkout 00:01 sekjal but, at least for the library I'm working with right now, that's too late 00:01 sekjal the patron is already there trying to checkout... can't say to them "oh, sorry, this is on hold for someone else" 00:04 space_librarian that is a staff problem then, yeah... I never enjoyed saying that to a patron when I was working circ, and it happened surprisingly often. 00:05 sekjal another idea this library had was to highlight checked in items that have holds on them in Red in the list of returned materials 00:05 sekjal that way, they could at least go back and say "Oh, whoops, scanned right past that one" 00:06 eythian that's not a bad idea. Or, ones that go unconfirmed perhaps, they could be batch-confirmed afterwards or something. 00:11 space_librarian that may work. Especially if you're needing to print holding slips too. 00:12 sekjal I think doing right the first sweep is the way to go... somehow changing the focus.... will work on a bug report and patch 00:13 sekjal must depart; it's well past dinner time 00:15 glernil good day! 00:16 space_librarian g'day glernil 00:16 glernil ;) 03:22 space_librarian @wunder wellington, nz 03:22 huginn space_librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (3:00 PM NZST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 03:24 AmitG heya all 03:24 AmitG heya chris 03:38 mtj hi AmitG 03:41 AmitG heya mtj 04:09 gmcharlt @quote random 04:09 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one does not bask in the Potomac River basin...you melt or swelter or something, but you don't bask. :P" (added by jwagner at 01:17 PM, January 24, 2011) 04:09 rangi heya gmcharlt 04:09 wahanui gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. 04:09 rangi heh 04:09 rangi you at the eg conf? 04:10 gmcharlt yep 04:10 rangi sweet 04:13 AmitG heya galen 04:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 231 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 04:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5445: Nicer breadcrumbs when ordering from different sources <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=883bc625b29f8d36064724479fe975e8b6b22f1a> 04:24 cait morning #koha 04:24 space_librarian morning cait 04:24 rangi chris_n: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commits_to_cherry-pick_for_3.4 <-- ive just updated this, please cross any out as you move them 04:24 rangi hiya cait 04:25 Brooke_ kia ora 04:25 space_librarian kia pra! 04:26 space_librarian ora 04:26 space_librarian :p 04:26 Brooke_ :D 04:26 rangi hi Brooke_ 04:26 * Brooke_ salutes Rangi 04:26 space_librarian I really should sit properly when typing... 04:26 * space_librarian wave at Brooke_ 04:26 * Brooke_ feels the <3 04:26 cait :) 04:27 space_librarian :) 04:27 Brooke_ cait's up with the birds. 04:27 space_librarian she is. 04:28 eythian Brooke_: 2.9? 04:29 Brooke_ I could respond, Eythian, but you'd not like the answer I'd supply. 04:29 eythian I'm doomed never to know... 04:30 Brooke_ you're less scarred that way, dear. 04:30 eythian man, I was reading something about scarification earlier today. That's quite mad. 04:31 * Brooke_ nods. 04:31 eythian Although can look good. (or, can look terrible.) 04:31 Brooke_ I'm willing to tattoo until the sun comes up 04:31 Brooke_ scarification... 04:31 Brooke_ though one of the big fights I've had 04:31 Brooke_ was over sun dance. 04:31 space_librarian scarfication never ends well 04:32 eythian http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Fzq94YVbHHM/SBcwcPzm5SI/AAAAAAAAJI4/ZJo_Ac1Z6QM/s1600-h/Scarification_07.jpg <-- space_librarian, beg to differ 04:33 space_librarian you're not seeing that close up though. 04:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6259: AllowHoldPolicyOverride causes every hold to need override <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6059599fac4cfd0b12af48348a6d349974205697> 04:33 Brooke_ that is a nice one 04:33 eythian I can give you an in-progress photo, too. But it might be be a bit much for a family friendly channel. 04:34 * space_librarian has a friend who's scarring really didn't work out. 04:34 eythian erk :/ 04:34 space_librarian yep. 04:35 space_librarian which is why I like my ink... 04:35 Brooke_ that would definitely be summat I checked and double checked... 04:35 * space_librarian agrees. 04:35 eythian Brooke_: you can't really check it 04:35 eythian because it's pretty varable 04:35 Brooke_ aye 04:35 Brooke_ but you can know the history 04:35 space_librarian true dat. 04:35 Brooke_ and you can also "test" a wee patch 04:36 * Brooke_ notes that the koha channel is sweet at night. 04:36 * space_librarian laughs 04:36 eythian It's the afternoon 04:36 Brooke_ pfft 04:36 Brooke_ close enough to quitting time ye could skive off without Mr. Christie noticing ;) 04:36 eythian He's already left :) 04:37 Brooke_ you could be all like "This yank said it was o tay." 04:37 space_librarian Brooke_: I believe the correct term is "timey wimey wibbley wobbley stuff", not pfft. 04:37 eythian also, my brain just isn't switched on today, so there's not much point me having a long day. 04:37 Brooke_ space_librarian: I've got it. 04:37 space_librarian :p Excellent. I knew you had good taste. 04:38 Brooke_ oh gods no 04:38 Brooke_ must have the wrong Brooke 04:38 space_librarian haha 04:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #231: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/231/ 04:54 jenkins_koha Katrin Fischer: Bug 5445: Nicer breadcrumbs when ordering from different sources 04:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5445 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Acq: No way back to order from z39.50 result page 04:54 jenkins_koha Starting build 232 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 05:02 Brooke_ 0/ 05:02 druthb o/ 05:02 Brooke_ hope you've recovered from that horrible bore you were spotted with earlier 05:03 druthb harrrrumph! 05:03 * space_librarian waves at druthb 05:03 space_librarian cya ya'll later.... 05:03 * druthb waves to space_librarian 05:03 space_librarian :) 05:07 Brooke_ cheers 05:08 cait oh 05:08 cait it rains 05:08 cait @wunder Konstanz 05:08 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0�C (7:00 AM CEST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa (Falling). 05:09 eythian @wunder wellington, nz 05:09 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (5:00 PM NZST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 05:09 eythian it doesn't mention the 50kph wind :( 05:11 Brooke_ pfft 05:11 Brooke_ a fine thing for a sail :P 05:12 druthb @wunder 20852 05:12 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 22.0�C (1:14 AM EDT on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). 05:27 cait eythian: bug! :) 05:27 eythian cait: beetle? 05:28 eythian oh yeah, that. I forgot. Another day, I think I'm getting sick. 05:28 eythian so am not going to hand around tonight 05:29 cait get better :) 05:29 eythian I plan to try 05:29 eythian *hang around tonight 05:29 eythian that makes more sense 05:29 cait it was only a friendly nudge - I am busy with this presentation too 05:29 eythian OK :) 05:33 cait but you know, bug wrangler's job is pestering people ;) 05:34 eythian fair point :) 05:34 Brooke_ I thought pestering was my domain :P 05:35 Brooke_ though I suppose I pester through humour. 05:35 * eythian goes away now, bye all 05:35 Brooke_ Death by bullshite! 05:35 Brooke_ feel better. 05:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #232: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/232/ 05:35 jenkins_koha Ian Walls: Bug 6259: AllowHoldPolicyOverride causes every hold to need override 05:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6259 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW, AllowHoldPolicyOverride ON causes every staff hold to require override 05:40 Brooke_ bid! 05:48 pianohacker Hallo 05:50 cait hallo pianohacker :) 05:51 pianohacker Hello, cait. How's it going? 05:51 Oak \o 05:52 cait I am good, long presentation tomorrow 05:52 Oak long? 05:55 cait 80 minutes 06:06 Oak good luck 06:08 cait thx :) 06:08 cait wanted to show how dev works... will probably scare them 06:25 AmitG heya cait 06:26 cait hi AmitG 06:51 francharb bonjour all 07:02 magnuse kia ora #koha 07:03 alex_a bonjour #koha 07:04 sophie_m hello #koha 07:04 kf hi again #koha 07:04 magnuse guten morgen kf 07:18 kf hi magnuse, hdl and sophie_m 07:18 sophie_m Guten Tag kf 07:20 magnuse bonjour biblibre 07:23 kf hm, question: library wants all information about fines deleted from system. good idea to truncate accountlines and delete fine related entries from statistics and action logs? or bad plan? 07:24 kf my test system looks ok, but I don't want to miss something 07:26 kf hi paul_p 07:26 paul_p hi kf 07:27 kf paul_p: do you see a problem with truncating accontlines and removing fine related entries from statistics and action_logs? 07:28 paul_p kf: you want to do that on one of your database ? 07:28 kf yes 07:29 paul_p I don't see any problem, but it's not the part of Koha I know the best 07:29 kf the library starts collecting fines now and wants the old histories and writeoffs etc deleted 07:33 rangi that should be fine kf 07:35 paul_p I think that should be fine. Checked the DB quickly, and don't see any dependancy missed 07:35 rangi id dump the tables first 07:36 rangi just in case 07:42 paul_p my main fear is that some tables could have been forgotten and the DB being inconsistent :( 07:42 kf rangi, paul_p: thx :) 07:43 kf paul_p: hm thought it should be pretty save - no items or borrowers deleted 07:49 kf hi SpaceLibrarian_home 07:50 SpaceLibrarian_home hey kf 07:51 magnuse hiya SpaceLibrarian_home 07:51 SpaceLibrarian_home hi magnuse :) 08:36 AmitG heya SpaceLirarian 08:46 SpaceLibrarian_home hey AmitG 08:47 rangi @wunder wellington nz 08:47 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). 08:47 rangi 11 my butt 08:50 kf @wunder Konstanz 08:50 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.9�C (10:50 AM CEST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). 08:50 kf hmpf 08:53 magnuse @wunder boo 08:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0�C (10:20 AM CEST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). 08:53 magnuse hm 08:53 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0�C (10:30 AM CEST on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 09:01 magnuse hiya Cybermon 09:02 Cybermon hi all 09:02 kf hi Cybermon 09:03 Cybermon how are you ? 09:10 Cybermon kf: where are you from ? 09:47 kf Cybermon: sorry, busy day - I am from Germany 09:50 Cybermon i see. don't worry. 09:51 Cybermon all: thanks for creative support in Mongolian koha installation. :-) 10:17 * druthb waves 10:28 * kf waves 10:28 gmcharlt @quote random 10:28 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #60: "<owen> My 9-month-old may not be walking yet, but she's got great bib control." (added by gmcharlt at 05:31 PM, February 19, 2010) 10:28 rangi that was a short sleep gmcharlt 10:29 gmcharlt heh, true 10:32 rangi http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/jobs/nokia-to-cut-7000-jobs-outsources-symbian-activities-to-accenture/articleshow/8099244.cms 10:32 rangi going with windows 7 instead of android, really working out for them 10:33 chilts I can't imagine 7000 people getting laid off, that's massive 10:33 rangi yeah its crazy eh 10:36 * magnuse is almost ashamed to own a nokia - but hey, it's got Maemo! 10:36 rangi nokia used to be cool, i think slef has one too 10:37 rangi and liw 10:37 rangi i think he has to, being finnish, i think they give you one at birth :-) 10:37 chilts I have Nokia ... I like their classical interface 'coz it's fast 10:38 chilts but I'm thinking of getting something else anyway 10:38 rangi the trick is finding a handset manufacturer who isnt mental 10:39 * SpaceLibrarian_home used to have a Nokia. Now she has a Samsung running android... 10:40 chilts I'll get Android when I stop being a luddite :) 10:40 chilts maybe later in the year 10:40 * chilts has it planned 10:40 rangi 2043 10:40 chilts heh 10:40 SpaceLibrarian_home It's the prime reason I got a smart phone. 10:41 * druthb figured out the second-best way to stay out of the whole iphone-vs-droid melee. 10:41 rangi well theres not even a melee there 10:41 * SpaceLibrarian_home wasn't going to sell anymore of her soul to apple. 10:41 rangi theres supporting child labour and selling your soul to the devil 10:41 rangi or theres android 10:41 rangi :) 10:41 * magnuse can't really imagine a better phone then nokia n900 with maemo (hey, it's based on debian!) 10:42 rangi yeah n900 are really cool 10:42 * druthb uses WebOS (Palm Pre Plus) 10:42 rangi im 99% sure thats what liw has 10:42 magnuse tangi: yeah i like to think so 10:42 rangi and maybe slef too? 10:42 magnuse or rangi, perhaps 10:42 rangi heh 10:42 magnuse rangi: i think slef has something with symbian on it 10:43 rangi ahh right 10:43 magnuse had in nz, at least 10:48 rangi right i should go to sleep 10:48 chilts ditto 10:49 SpaceLibrarian_home yup 10:49 * rangi wanders off 10:49 magnuse good night, new zealand! 10:49 SpaceLibrarian_home in the words of my horribly mangled and long disused second language.... goeie nag... 10:50 * SpaceLibrarian_home turns off the lights. :) 11:00 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4959] Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4959> 11:50 nengard does anyone know if biblioitems.publicationyear is actually populated? 11:53 jcamins_away nengard: pretty sure it isn't. 11:53 nengard that's my guess too 11:54 kf nengard: check unimarc 11:55 kf nengard: I remember there was a difference between marc21 and unimarc mappings - I believe for marc21 it's probably copyrightyear 11:55 nengard yes the copyrightyear is populated 11:55 hdl nengard: in marc21, you have copyrightdate and publicationyear 11:56 jcamins What a great thing to discover... Myshkin broke a glass and the living room is covered in shards of glass. 11:57 nengard :( 11:58 kf hope myshkin is ok? 11:59 jcamins Yeah, he seems fine, though angry that I won't let him play with the glass. 12:02 kf didn't we have a cloud with things we love about koha (from kohacon, made by brooke) somewhere? 12:04 nengard yes, brooke did have something like that 12:05 nengard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/File:Zecloud2.png 12:06 kf cool, thx nengard! 12:06 nengard np 12:06 kf another question: I am searching for a school or special library with a nice catalog 12:07 druthb University medical school library good? 12:08 * jcamins is very glad that all his wine glasses are plastic. 12:09 kf jcamins: plastic wine glasses? 12:09 kf druthb: link? 12:09 druthb http://beckercat.wustl.edu/ 12:09 jcamins kf: yes, so that they won't break. 12:09 druthb Nothing fancy, but I like it. 12:10 conan hi everyone 12:10 kf druthb: I would say it's fancy - looks great 12:11 JesseM druthb every time I see that OPAC i'm amazed 12:12 druthb Yah. That's all done with sysprefs, of course--no custom templates or anything. 12:13 * kf has to go css hunting when that presentation is over 12:14 jwagner Not a school or special library, but http://scls.kohalibrary.com and one of its many member branches http://acl.scls.kohalibrary.com are quite nice. 12:19 kf nengard: another question about the tag cloud - do you rmember the question? name 3 things you love about koha? 12:20 nengard kf i'm sending you the email i found 12:21 kf great 12:21 kf thank you all! 12:28 ether hey guys 12:37 jcamins loopback_filesystems++ 12:42 tcohen tmpfs++ 13:12 mib_h2wz2x hi there Koha friends:) 13:17 * kf waves 13:18 mib_h2wz2x guys it is possible in Koha to loan itens that are not for loan for some patron categorie? 13:19 mib_h2wz2x (without activate AllowNotForLoanOverride) 13:19 kf no, without the override afaik not 13:20 kf what you can do is don't mark the itemtype not for loan but use only circ rules. Some categories can check out 0 of the item type, others more 1+ 13:21 mib_h2wz2x that solution doesn't work for me because of the library policy... 13:22 kf ? 13:23 mib_h2wz2x the solution of mark the itemtype not for loan 13:23 mib_h2wz2x i'll have to activate the override policy 13:23 jcamins mib_h2wz2x: saying that certain patron categories can't check out any books of a certain itemtype is the same as saying those itemtypes are not for loan to those patron categories. 13:24 mib_h2wz2x yes i know that but i need to have one type of category that can checkout everything even item marked as not for loan 13:25 jcamins mib_h2wz2x: then the only way you can do that is with circ rules. 13:26 mib_h2wz2x I have a rule for that but the items marked as not for loan can't be checkout... 13:26 jcamins mib_h2wz2x: you shouldn't have any items marked not for loan. That's why you use circ rules. 13:28 mib_h2wz2x But I have too... because some books can't get out of the library... they are used for statistical but the statistical user in Koha is very limited (doesn't saves the history) 13:28 jcamins mib_h2wz2x: I don't think you can have it both ways, sorry. 13:29 mib_h2wz2x the only option is to activate the not for loan override policy... 13:29 jcamins mib_h2wz2x: well, that's what you'll have to do, then. 13:30 mib_h2wz2x thanks for the help anyway :) 13:47 tcohen hi #koha 13:47 tcohen is items.dateaccessioned the right place to search for 952$d? 13:49 tcohen nengard? do u know? 13:51 nengard um 13:51 nengard that would be my assumption .. but no i don't know for sure 13:52 tcohen i tracked through C4/Items.pm and Biblio.pm and just when I arrived the default .sql files for frameworks found that 13:53 jcamins tcohen: check your frameworks. 13:55 tcohen jcamins: thanks, i found it already 13:55 tcohen I have to say that I got a bit worried about how it is handled 13:56 tcohen if i manage to elaborate on this i'll post a comment on the list 14:07 ether i've being searching for hours to find a relevant comparison for ils but no luck 14:14 rhcl Is anything informal planned for the Sunday before Monday (yea, that Sunday) before Kudos? 14:14 rhcl I coffee need. 14:14 wizzyrea i'm getting in pretty late. 14:15 rhcl I still don't know my itinerary for sure, but I think I leave MCI @ around 6 am 'ish. 14:17 jwagner rhcl, I'm on a tight schedule -- coming in early Monday morning & leaving Tuesday afternoon. But I'd be interested in hearing who all is coming. 14:17 sekjal rhcl: druthb, bg and I will be arriving later that Sunday afternoon/evening. nothing planned for that night as far as I know 14:20 druthb I have a "drinks" plan for later Sunday evening, but my sked is clear for dinner. 14:20 wizzyrea where late = 10pm to the airport 14:21 rhcl Where (what building) is the meeting? I'm looking through my notes and printouts and don't see that specific info. 14:22 rhcl Ha, maybe the Pyle Center is a specific building? 14:22 wizzyrea that's my understanding 14:23 wizzyrea http://conferencing.uwex.edu/location.cfm 14:25 rhcl http://tinyurl.com/pylecenter 14:43 kf @quote 123 14:43 huginn kf: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 14:43 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 14:44 jcamins I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA? 14:44 jcamins kf: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA? 14:44 jcamins Hm. 14:46 wizzyrea @quote get 123 14:46 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 14:46 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 14:53 druthb @quote random 14:53 huginn druthb: Quote #61: "*wizzyrea doesn't like hoity toity technical talk...<wizzyrea> wait, that's a lie" (added by jdavidb at 05:19 PM, February 24, 2010) 14:53 druthb lol 14:53 jcamins #thingsihavelearnt if there? 14:54 wizzyrea if there? 14:54 * jcamins wants to know what it is that wahanui is saving, that it keeps on protesting to huggin. 14:54 wizzyrea if there? 14:55 jcamins Quote 123. I was wondering if wahanui had memorized that the answer to that was "is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" 14:55 wizzyrea right 15:04 rhcl isn't there a list somewhere of Koha development work that's waiting for funding 15:05 nengard there is a status in bugzilla for that 15:05 nengard but i'm not sure how often it's used 15:05 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/about/enhancing-koha/ 15:05 nengard there are also the RFCs on the wiki 15:20 rhcl huginn needs an apropos argument, something like: >hugging apropos bug about customizable receipts 15:20 huginn rhcl: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 15:20 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 15:42 mib_oannkf hi guys :) 15:43 mib_oannkf tell me one thing... it is possible to block holds/reserves on biblio that have items available? 15:44 jcamins Yes, use an item type that doesn't permit holds. 15:47 mib_oannkf on the biblioitem? 15:47 jcamins On the items. 15:48 mib_oannkf but I want the items to be reserved... 15:48 jcamins mib_oannkf: you're going to have to explain what you want. 15:49 mib_oannkf the problem is if a biblio has 4 items and 1 is checked out it's possible to reserve that item... but there is 3 items available, to there is no need to allow reservation... 15:50 kf allowonshelfholds 15:50 kf off 15:50 kf like me now :) see you all later 15:51 mib_oannkf allowonshelfholds is off 15:52 jcamins mib_oannkf: I don't think it's possible to do what you want. 15:52 mib_oannkf :/ 16:25 wizzyrea i'm pretty excited about intranetuserCSS 16:25 wizzyrea :P 16:28 nengard wizzyrea are you doing something pretty? 16:28 wizzyrea not yet ^.^ 16:29 wizzyrea nengard, question for you 16:29 nengard k 16:29 wizzyrea do you know where the "add address /phone to slips" is done? 16:30 nengard i think it's command line ... cause i've never seen it in the gui 16:30 wizzyrea oooo 16:30 nengard but i think gmcharlt wrote that or signed off on that 16:30 nengard so he might know better 16:30 nengard and once he tells us i can put it in the manual :) 16:31 wizzyrea kk ty 16:36 rhcl administration - libraries,branches,groups - edit branch 16:36 rhcl ? 16:37 wizzyrea there's nothing obvious in there to me that says "put this on the slip" 16:37 rhcl maybe that's why it's apparently improved for 3.4? 16:38 wizzyrea i'm looking at 3.4 16:38 rhcl that's how we're doing it currently in 3.2 16:39 wizzyrea mmm I have addresses in there 16:39 wizzyrea and they're not on the slip 16:40 cait hi again #koha 16:41 wizzyrea I just double checked that, and in fact the branch addresses are not on the slip 16:42 rhcl Well, i donno 16:44 wizzyrea i'm trying it another way... sec 16:45 wizzyrea also interesting is the fact that in multi-branch systems the receipts print the home library of the patron, not the set library 16:49 hdl i think it is displaying the CircControlBranch library 16:50 hdl (the branch where the issue belongs.) 16:50 wizzyrea hmm 16:50 wizzyrea that's what I would have expected too 16:51 wizzyrea but this circ belonged to library A, for patron 1, and patron 1 had a home library of library b. Library b was printed on the receipt 16:51 wizzyrea circcontrol is set to... 16:52 wizzyrea use the checkout rules of the library you are logged in at 16:52 wizzyrea so, that slip should have printed library A, not library B 16:52 cait hm 16:52 wizzyrea (imo) 16:52 cait I woul dexpect it to be the library where the item is checked out and returned 16:54 cait perhaps naive :) 16:54 wizzyrea I think that's what I would expect too 16:56 sekjal was discussing this with some folks last night, but wanted to bring it up with the day crowd: checking in multiple items and not confirming holds. problem? 16:57 cait our libraries are too small and use self checks 16:57 cait s/and/or 16:57 sekjal I mean, if you're just scanning in book after book, it's very easy to scan past the holds notification confirmation box, which means the hold is never marked as 'waiting' for the next person 16:59 cait hm 16:59 sekjal is it a problem with Koha that you can just keep scanning in these materials without dealing with the confirmation box? or is it a problem with the practices of the library staff? 17:02 jcamins wizzyrea: does that page actually print, though? 17:03 wizzyrea yes 17:03 wizzyrea i just tried it 17:03 wizzyrea does it not work? 17:04 jcamins Apparently it does. 17:04 jcamins Never mind. 17:05 wizzyrea oh you know what though 17:05 wizzyrea there's some duplicate stuff in there that shouldn't be 17:07 wizzyrea urg. 17:10 wizzyrea meh. forget I sent that 17:10 wizzyrea i'm going to have to do it over 17:16 adnc hello koha 17:22 ether i enabled ldap auth an when i try to login as a ldap user i get this. Software error: 17:22 ether AddMember failed at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm line 152. 17:22 ether help!!! 17:24 sekjal ether: so it looks like you're getting as far as the bind, which is good 17:25 sekjal probably trouble with your <mapping> 17:25 sekjal do you have patron category and branchcode mapped? 17:25 ether yes i think i do 17:26 ether <mapping> <!-- match koha SQL field names to your LDAP record field names --> 17:26 ether <firstname is="givenname" ></firstname> 17:26 ether <surname is="sn" ></surname> 17:26 ether <address is="postaladdress" ></address> 17:26 ether <city is="l" >Kingston, JM</city> 17:26 ether <zipcode is="postalcode" ></zipcode> 17:26 ether <branchcode is="branch" >MAIN</branchcode> 17:26 ether <userid is="uid" ></userid> 17:26 ether <password is="userpassword" ></password> 17:26 ether <email is="mail" ></email> 17:26 ether <cardnumber is="userpassword" ></cardnumber> 17:26 ether <categorycode is="employeetype" >PT</categorycode> 17:26 ether <phone is="telephonenumber"></phone> 17:26 ether </mapping> 17:27 ether i have cardnumber as password becuz all users have thier id as password for now ;) 17:28 sekjal do you have a MAIN branchcode and PT categorycode configured? 17:28 ether let me double check 17:31 ether hmm branchcode needs change hmm ;) copy paste 17:32 ether YUP that was it how i didnt see that 17:32 ether lol 17:32 ether thx sekjal 17:32 sekjal gladly, ether! 17:35 tcohen do some1 know what qslip and slip differ on? 17:35 sekjal quickslip is just today's checkouts; slip has all the currently checked out items 17:39 tcohen thanks sekjañl 17:39 tcohen sekjal 17:44 cait sekjal++ 17:52 adnc rangi, ping! 17:54 rangi who is pinging me at 6am? 17:54 rangi :) 17:54 cait go back to bed! :) 17:55 adnc ohh 17:56 adnc sorry, didn't know you are on a different time zone. go to bed again, ;) 17:58 adnc cait, nich gut ne ;) 18:03 hdl sekjal: if you can checkout circulation branches or see the commits we did, there is something done about checking in multiple items and holds management. 18:05 cait adnc: Ich glaube, er war schon wach ;) 18:05 adnc ;) 18:06 hdl you can see http://borrowers34.git.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl test test 18:07 hdl you can do whatever you want import some records... and you can test 18:07 sekjal hdl: thanks! 18:07 sekjal the problem with the blind checking in of items comes down to the same problem as the bulk return from the patron detail page... 18:12 bg @wunder 93109 18:13 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.0�C (11:15 AM PDT on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising). 18:20 ether sekjal, my ldap has a attribute thats multivalued, is there a way to have koha only retrieve only one of its values? 18:21 sekjal ether: there isn't any code to specify which attribute to use, so it would default to whatever Net::LDAP returned. 18:24 ether ok so i would have to edit the code in authldap.pm, and check the key after it retrieved that particular mapping in order to have the split, hmm too static, too much hassle for just one value 18:27 adnc which table is the barcode stored? 18:27 sekjal adnc: item barcode or patron barcode? 18:28 adnc sekjal, item barcode 18:28 sekjal items table 18:28 sekjal items.barcode 18:28 adnc thanks 18:28 sekjal gladly 18:31 ether sekjal, can koha update userpass in the ldap? 18:32 sekjal ether: I don't believe that Koha can update any information in the LDAP... the data flow is only from LDAP to Koha 18:32 ether ok thx 18:34 ether i'll have to ensure the users know that pw changes in koha wont stick then..will try find a way to redirect pw changes to ldap 18:34 library_systems_guy sekjal, you're right if you are just talking about default functionality (IE without code mods) 18:34 sekjal ether: the LDAP password will overwrite whatever local password is in Koha 18:34 ether would love if it was done from koha though 18:35 ether i realize it will 18:35 library_systems_guy sekjal, what if update is turned off 18:35 library_systems_guy and just replicate is on 18:35 cait ether: I think there is an option to hide the password change 18:35 cait in koha 18:35 library_systems_guy *thinks cait has the best idea 18:35 cait I am on the wrong computer - can't check hot it's called 18:35 ether given update is set at 1 and chain of checkk is ldap-->local..etc 18:35 sekjal library_systems_guy: I believe even then it will update the password 18:36 library_systems_guy hmm, I thought if update was off it would only poll ldap if the user didn't exist in the koha db 18:36 sekjal LDAP is checked first, then it falls back to local Koha authentication 18:36 ether i think so too 18:36 library_systems_guy oh boo 18:37 library_systems_guy i promise thats the last time ill be wrong today :-/ 18:37 jcamins sekjal: wait, it already falls back to local Koha authentication? 18:37 ether but i have other system integrated with this ldap that'll make changes from time to time some i want update/replicate 18:37 jcamins Cool! 18:38 library_systems_guy jcamins, yeah otherwise people that didn't exists in ldap koha wouldn't care about 18:39 ether i suspect the call to update ldap password shouldnt be difficult though 18:39 jcamins library_systems_guy: yeah, I know. I was just talking yesterday with someone about how much sense it would make if Koha automatically fell back to the Koha db if LDAP failed. 18:39 library_systems_guy heh 18:39 ether should be in net:ldap 18:39 sekjal interesting issue with LDAP and passwords: If you update your password in LDAP, you'll still be able to log into Koha with the old password until you log in with the new one 18:39 library_systems_guy ether, should be provided that the user you're using for the bind has the correct permissions in ldap 18:40 ether currently thats where i have an issue 18:40 library_systems_guy sekjal, really? Well i suppose that makes sense 18:40 adnc UPDATE items SET barcode = ( SELECT @c := @c + 1) ORDER BY itemnumber ASC; 18:40 adnc sorry 18:41 sekjal since the LDAP auth fails, it falls back to authenticating against Koha, and since Koha keeps a hashed copy of the LDAP password the last successfully authenticated 18:42 sekjal the solution is probably to enable a way to tell Koha not to store that local password value 18:42 sekjal so if LDAP auth fails, you can't get into that account at all 18:42 ether the user i used for the bind i had hoped would be used just for locating the bind of the user to be logged in, after locating that bind i had expected a rebind using the current user bind and supplied password 18:43 ether this as my ldap allows each user access to change their password 18:44 ether maybe koha could either store the current user bind and used it to bind and change the password with ldap if necessary 18:46 library_systems_guy sekjal, have you told ether the problems you may face with updating after code changes locally? 18:46 sekjal library_systems_guy: hasn't come up yet 18:47 sekjal ether: are you familiar with git? 18:47 rangi for god sakes use git 18:47 rangi is the answer 18:47 library_systems_guy why do we even offer the tarbell 18:47 sekjal hi, rangi! 18:47 rangi library_systems_guy: you are joking right? 18:48 rangi 99.9% of koha users run from a release unchanged 18:48 library_systems_guy oh... 18:48 rangi its only a few who modify locally 18:48 wizzyrea and if you don't do that, for god's sake use git 18:49 rangi and only the crazy ones dont use version control 18:49 wizzyrea (and have the horror stories to prove it ;)) 18:49 * jcamins is crazy, but he uses version control. 18:49 ether yes i did a git change on the ubuntu docs before, my difficulty is understanding those perl codes ..in dont know perl well and i notice alot of mnemonic of perl that i need to go figure 18:50 rangi the real win, is general solutions that you send upstream 18:50 rangi then u dont have local changes 18:51 ether i did a quick 3hr crash on perl but i already forgotten what i learnt 18:51 cait general_solutions++ 18:51 cait and you will make other libraries happy too :) 18:52 sekjal ether: I HIGHLY recommend you use Git for any local changes you make. This'll make it easier to test things out without risk of breakage, and any solution you come up with can be propogated into future releases (or better yet, contributed back to Koha!) 18:53 jcamins ether: what everyone is trying to say is, "take to heart the old saying- 'don't be a git, use git.'" :D 18:55 rangi or you could save time and just slam your head on the desk multiple times now, cos without tracking ur changes, ull be doing that after trying to upgrade 18:55 ether i will do like you say...just that it will take time to get familiar with whats being done in those perl codes, i know howto using the ldaputils but to transition it to perl is where i'll have a challenge 18:55 rangi :) 18:56 cait lol 18:57 * jcamins likes his slogan. Maybe that should be one of the Koha mantras. 18:57 cait you don't need perl knowledge for using git :) 18:57 magnuse someone add that bit about slamming ones head to the quotes, please? ;-) 18:57 library_systems_guy nor is any knowledge of svn useful lol 18:58 ether i know , wasnt refering to git but to actual changing of the codes 18:59 wizzyrea @quote add jcamins: take to heart the old saying- 'don't be a git, use git. 18:59 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #129 added. 19:00 wizzyrea @quote add rangi: or you could save time and just slam your head on the desk multiple times now, cos without tracking ur changes, ull be doing that after trying to upgrade 19:00 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #130 added. 19:00 magnuse thanks wizzyrea (not sure i am registered with huginn...) 19:01 wizzyrea u got it ;) 19:02 * magnuse just installed ubuntu on his mac mini - and must get a real keyboard tomorrow... 19:02 rangi ohh lindas question on the mailing list 19:02 rangi good timing 19:03 rangi bbiab 19:05 * cait waves 19:05 magnuse o/ 19:07 sekjal back in a little bit, #koha 19:10 magnuse kia ora nengard 19:10 nengard :) 19:10 cait hi nengard 19:12 ether is there any code documentation? 19:17 library_systems_guy ether, http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Documentation 19:17 library_systems_guy i suppose other than that the codedoc is just in the code 19:17 magnuse ether: http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ 19:22 NCARMichael yello there 19:23 magnuse yello to you too NCARMichael ;-) 19:24 rangi blue there :) 19:24 NCARMichael i observed sthg this morning whilst using the Inventory Tool...thought perhaps I'd see what others thought. 19:24 NCARMichael (waiting for someone to say yello + blue = green there) 19:24 NCARMichael anyhoo 19:25 NCARMichael yeah, so Inventory ordering... 19:25 NCARMichael I plug in a call no range and it gives me a nice list of items 19:25 NCARMichael and they're KIND of in order 19:25 NCARMichael but not really 19:25 jcamins Dewey sorting funny? 19:26 jcamins 245.01 before 245? 19:26 NCARMichael Yeah. It's closest to a Dewey sort (and actually, I'd love to able to change it to LOC instead), but sometimes it does weird things. 19:26 NCARMichael maybe. i should go grab some examples. 19:26 jcamins Please. 19:27 NCARMichael k. standby. 19:28 NCARMichael I suppose it could be standard Dewey and I'm just so LOC-oriented that I look at a Dewey sort and call it wrong. 19:30 tcohen rangi: is rebuild_zebra.pl broken in master? 19:31 jcamins NCARMichael: there was a very recent fix of Dewey sorting. 19:31 jcamins lcc sorting should work fine, though. 19:31 tcohen </datafield> 19:31 tcohen sion="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> 19:31 tcohen <record 19:31 NCARMichael okay, so it puts QC995 .E29 1997 before QC100 .U57 NO. 555 1986 19:32 NCARMichael is that Dewey? 19:32 rangi tcohen: nope at least it wasn't when I went to sleep 19:32 jcamins NCARMichael: No, I think that's just weird. ;) 19:33 tcohen how do i use pastebot? 19:33 NCARMichael and QC145.45 .H4 D65 1998 is before QC145 .A57 V.12 1980 19:33 rangi paste.koha-community.org 19:34 rangi tcohen: have u recently upgraded? 19:35 jcamins NCARMichael: hm. That looks like the same problem that the Dewey sort had. 19:35 NCARMichael well, i guess i'll send Galen an email and have him take a look. Do you know if there's a way to have my Koha instance use LOC instead of Dewey for the Inv Tool? 19:35 tcohen rangi: i'm just working on a tools for checking records for troubles 19:35 tcohen (in master) 19:35 jcamins NCARMichael: it should automatically use lcc if that's what you've selected as your call number system. 19:36 rangi and not run the script to remove items from biblio? 19:36 tcohen ohhhhhhhhh 19:36 jcamins NCARMichael: Check DefaultClassificationSource. 19:36 tcohen i'm sorry for that.... 19:36 NCARMichael i'll take a look 19:36 liw rangi, I no longer have the n900, Soile has it now; I have a nexus one, and I'm not sure which one is worse 19:37 rangi liw: hehe 19:37 tcohen the problem i faced was that THE script failed because of bad records... 19:37 nengard wizzyrea around? 19:37 rangi tcohen: ah yep that happens 19:37 tcohen i'll use the previous rebuild_zebra as a basis... 19:37 tcohen thanks rangi 19:38 rangi in master, you need to have a db that has the item info out of the biblio 19:38 NCARMichael whoa, default class source was set to ANSCR(!) 19:38 rangi or you will just get messy results 19:39 rangi so a fresh install is fine, new records fine, but if you come from an older db check the UPGRADE section of the INSTALL file 19:39 NCARMichael hm, it's still whacked. 19:40 NCARMichael i'll have Galen take a look. 19:40 jcamins NCARMichael: I'm not even sure what ANSCR is. 19:41 jcamins For sound recordings? 19:41 jcamins Huh. 19:41 NCARMichael Koha says it's for sound recordings 19:41 NCARMichael yeah 19:41 NCARMichael what you said 19:41 NCARMichael anyway 19:41 NCARMichael thx 4 your moral support ;) 19:42 NCARMichael at least i know i'm not crazy 19:42 NCARMichael well, at least in THIS respect 19:42 rangi man the suspension on this bus is whacked out 19:43 magnuse ouch! 19:43 rangi if I go quiet its cos I bounced out the roof 19:44 magnuse hang in there rangi! 19:47 adnc rangi, packaged koha 3.4? 19:47 adnc ;) 19:48 rangi no 19:48 rangi there is a perl module that needs packaging first 19:48 jcamins rangi: what Perl module is missing? 19:49 rangi which eythian is working on, have to do it right, for it to be accepted into debian 19:49 rangi cgi::session::memcached 19:49 jcamins rangi: ah. 19:49 rangi once that is done, eythian will work on the main package 19:50 rangi nonfunded work .. means it has to be done round the edges of what we are paid to do, but we'll get there 19:51 magnuse yay! 19:52 jcamins Is that a new dependency? 19:52 rangi once its done for 3.4.0 3.4.1 becomes a bunch easier 19:52 rangi yes 19:53 rangi its not required, but running it with memcached is a ton faster than storing sessions in mysql 19:54 rangi the other thing for 3.4.0 is the remove items from biblio script, and using something like debconf note to tell ppl to run it if they are upgrading 19:54 rangi which we might end up asking liw questions about :) 19:55 jcamins Why can't you just do a koha-for-all remove_items_from_biblioitems? 19:55 rangi cos it takes ages 19:55 jcamins Ah. 19:55 jcamins Hm. 19:55 rangi specially with big koha, or lots of them 19:56 jcamins Yeah, that does make sense. 19:57 rangi ok my stop 19:57 rangi bbiab 20:02 rangi back 20:09 rangi chris_n: you about? 20:15 sekjal rangi: did we recently bump minimum perl version for Koha to 5.10 for Koha 3.4? 20:15 rangi no 20:17 sekjal okay, there is a dependency on a perl 5.10 operator in C4::Search that breaks make test on perl 5.8.8 20:17 sekjal introduced with commit 265ed53f 20:18 rangi we talked about it, but i dont think it was ever formally decided 20:18 rangi the ~~ ? 20:18 sekjal I was reading the discussion, and we agreed to keep it at 5.8.8 for 3.0 and 3.2 20:18 sekjal rangi: yes, the ~~ 20:18 rangi yeah, send a patch for that 20:19 rangi i should have caught that 20:19 rangi its pretty hard to find a new machine with 5.8.8 on it these days, but we shouldnt break things without warning 20:20 rangi and not just for one operator :) 20:20 rangi at the next meeting ill propose we go for 5.10 in 3.6.x 20:21 rangi so we can just patch the 3.4.x branch 20:21 rangi sound like a plan? 20:21 sekjal we're doing an installation on Red Hat 5.6 20:21 rangi oh god poor you 20:21 sekjal sounds good 20:21 sekjal for the install, we're going to try upgrading perl to 5.10 first 20:21 rangi the old we only do security on this tiny subset of of packages 20:21 rangi redhat 20:22 sekjal but I'll work up a patch for perl 5.8.8 compatability 20:22 rangi sekjal: do they have a support agreement 20:22 rangi ? 20:22 rangi you need to be careful what you ugprade on redhat if they do 20:22 sekjal it's their campus-wide solution 20:22 sekjal so I assume so 20:22 sekjal I'll talk to their local IT guys 20:22 rangi yeah 20:23 rangi the contract is pretty specific about what packages they support 20:23 rangi upgrading perl, might put it out of support 20:55 space_librarian morning #koha :) 20:56 magnuse gday space_librarian 20:58 cait hi space_librarian 20:58 space_librarian hey cait, magnuse 20:58 bg @wunder 93109 20:58 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.9�C (2:00 PM PDT on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). 20:59 rangi man, im looking forward to june 20:59 * space_librarian is envious 21:00 * jcamins too... Budapest, Baton Rouge, and New Orleans. 21:03 * jcamins thinks the weather will be nicer in Budapest than Baton Rouge and New Orleans. 21:04 jcamins He hopes it will be, anyway. 21:05 * space_librarian agrees with jcamins 21:05 space_librarian less humid, anyway 21:07 jcamins Yeah, looks like June is summer. :( 21:08 rangi ill take hot over cold any day 21:08 rangi i can always go sit in a pool when its hot 21:08 * jcamins would prefer temperate 21:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3543: split NLM call numbers in label creator <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=139f7343f42c32e4bc1981bc072cf6ba05b20c0b> 21:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 233 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:26 rangi wahanui: 1 + 3 + 51 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 9 + 72 + 27 + 34 + 8 + 12 21:26 wahanui 222 21:33 cait cool trick with wahanui 21:34 rangi yep, handy 21:34 rangi wahanui: 1293/4 21:34 wahanui 323.25 21:40 druthb wahanui: 4^4 21:40 druthb wahanui: 4**4 21:40 wahanui 256 21:40 druthb ah-hah. 21:40 * druthb thinks. 21:41 druthb wahanui: sqrt(16) 21:41 wahanui druthb: what? 21:41 druthb I thought not. 21:41 jcamins_away wahanui: 16**0.5 21:41 wahanui 4 21:41 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie 21:41 wahanui :) 21:41 druthb jcamins++ 21:45 space_librarian feeding the bots again? I think I like a bot calculator on hand. :) 21:46 druthb hi, space_librarian! 21:46 druthb librariansnack cookie :) 21:46 space_librarian nom nom nom. :) 21:47 space_librarian hey druthb! :D Thanks for the cookie. 21:48 rangi man, its still freezing in here 21:48 space_librarian I came prepared today: I brought a hoodie to work! 21:48 cait cookie? 21:48 rangi me too 21:49 rangi also, drumstep keeps me warm, with its super mega death ray goodness 21:49 rangi http://soundcloud.com/figure/figure-super-mega-death-ray 21:49 cait temperature here dropped about 10 degrees from yesterday to today 21:50 cait brr 21:50 space_librarian rangi: that is pretty damn cool. 21:50 rangi its got the power to enslave the whole human race!! 21:53 space_librarian i can believe that... 21:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #233: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/233/ 21:54 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 3543: split NLM call numbers in label creator 21:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3543 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Spine labels - NLM call numbers not splitting 21:58 cait no cookies - time to go to bed 21:58 cait bye all 21:58 rangi night cait 21:58 cait night rangi and thx :) 22:32 biorisk i try to install koha and i have a error when i try to run koha 22:32 biorisk this is my error log: Can't locate Net/SMTP/SSL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/intranet/modules /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/modules/C4/AR/Mail.pm line 28. 22:33 rangi looks like you missed installing some things 22:33 rangi what version of Koha, and on what version of linux? 22:35 biorisk koha version is 2.2.0 and ubuntu 10.10 22:37 eythian biorisk: on a scale of 1 to old, 2.2.0 is prehistoric. 22:37 rangi yes, where did you even get a copy of it? :) 22:38 biorisk when i try to install Net::SMTP::SSL show me an error with IO::Socket::SSL dependance 22:39 rangi yeah, dont try to install koha 2.2.0 22:39 biorisk ok 22:39 rangi its 6 years old 22:39 rangi and about 30 versions ago 22:39 biorisk woww 22:39 * rangi is curious where you even got a copy of it from 22:40 rangi for a brand new install, i would suggest install koha 3.4.0 22:40 biorisk from here http://koha.linti.unlp.edu.ar/descargas 22:40 rangi ah yeah, someone hasnt updated their webiste in a long long time obviously :) 22:41 rangi biorisk: do you want to run it in spanish? 22:41 biorisk do you know a repository to install koha in debian like? 22:41 rangi yes 22:41 rangi http://debian.koha-community.org/ 22:41 biorisk i try it 22:41 biorisk thanks 22:41 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 22:42 rangi ahh the .koha-community.org sites are the official ones, so its best to get things from there 22:42 rangi that way we can help you 22:43 biorisk ok thank you 22:51 sekjal_away bug 6274: opinions? 22:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6274 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Permanent storage of user-uploaded files 22:52 rangi you are going to run into permissions problems 22:52 rangi the packages use an apache2 that can do suexec (mpm-itk) 22:53 rangi which would allow for a modicum of security, at least the koha could only trash its own files, not anything owned by www-data 22:54 rangi any script that does uploading, needs to make sure its using taint, and doing lots of other checks 22:54 rangi with those cavaets, i can see it could be useful for xslt etc/css/images etc 22:54 sekjal_away good point. it's a non-trivial project, but it will open the doors to SOOOOOO many other enhancements. 22:55 rangi yep, has to be done right(tm) tho, or it opens the door to much hackage 22:57 sekjal surely this is a problem that's already been solved by other perl hackers 22:58 rangi yes 22:58 rangi its also been done wrong by plenty of people 22:58 rangi just pick the right one :) 23:00 sekjal agreed. 23:11 sekjal okay, must obtain food 23:11 sekjal goodnight, #koha! 23:11 brendan_ night ian 23:13 brendan_ @wunder washington, dc 23:13 huginn brendan_: The current temperature in Eckington Pl, NE, Washington, District of Columbia is 24.8�C (7:14 PM EDT on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Rising). Tornado Watch 240 in effect until 2 am EDT Thursday... 23:13 brendan_ bummer 23:14 brendan_ let's compare that to here -- 23:14 rangi they get tornadoes in DC? 23:14 brendan_ @wunder 93109 23:14 huginn brendan_: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 21.2�C (4:16 PM PDT on April 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). 23:14 rangi i never knew 23:14 brendan_ I guess 240 of them 23:14 brendan_ bummer the Mets should move their baseball team here - never get any rainouts :) 23:15 rangi hehe 23:38 space_librarian cool. I see a tornado just touched down near Quantico... sounds entertaining. :\ 23:52 eythian Don't suppose anyone feels like doing a signoff on Bug 5509 for me...:) 23:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5509 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Packaging scripts get upset when there's an LDAP configuration in the koha_conf.xml