Time Nick Message 23:59 cait but the list is still empty 23:59 cait after midnight now:) 23:59 cait s/cen/can 23:59 cait aha, I cen submit late orders with 0 days ago 23:59 rangi yep thats why im checking 23:58 cait hm or a problem with my data? 23:58 rangi right well then its a deeper issue, checking now 23:57 cait ok, both are still empty 23:55 cait ok 23:55 cait ah 23:55 rangi if not, we have to dig deeper 23:55 rangi if so, we know its a TT problem 23:54 rangi and see if they come back 23:54 cait could you check if you see the same? 23:54 rangi can you checkout html_template_pro 23:54 rangi yep 23:54 cait you have to choose a vendor 23:54 rangi right 23:54 cait because you can't do a 'search all' in both reports 23:54 cait which breaks the whole thing 23:54 cait both pull downs are empty 23:54 cait no 23:54 rangi and its not in the list? 23:54 cait it's active and has a name 23:53 cait I only have one vendor 23:53 rangi hmm 23:52 cait late orders and serials claims 23:52 cait there are 2 places where I would expect a vendor's list but get an empty pull down 23:51 cait hm 23:50 rangi the ambulance staff here use that as their haka 23:47 rangi heh 23:46 wizzyrea_away i'm tempted to make them chant it at kudoscon :P 23:45 rangi (at 2 mins too) 23:42 rangi you can hear how you chant it :) 23:42 rangi at the 34 second mark 23:42 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwG7ACsFWtU 23:39 bg ah yeah now I remember 23:39 cait too bad google doesn't translate maori 23:39 rangi this feat is not the feat of one, but the feat of many 23:38 bg I know this one --> Haere. MÅu tai ata; mÅku tai ahiahi 23:38 bg ah I think you told me once - but I'm drawing a blank 23:37 rangi Ehara taku toa i te toa takitahi, engari he toa takitini 23:37 jenkins_koha Starting build 221 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6251 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: Some problems with receiving orders 23:37 jenkins_koha Katrin Fischer: Bug 6251: Acq: receiving orders 23:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing typo in the release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8003a1343d0fa978df6d7f43ef9ede16adee769b> 23:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #220: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/220/ 23:36 rangi speaking of translate, people figure out the proverb at the bottom of the release notes? 23:35 * rangi is playing with google translate 23:35 rangi apparently hmpf in german is hmpf 23:35 cait I think all mean basically the same 23:34 rangi ? 23:34 cait hmpf :) 23:34 rangi Sie sind sehr effizient 23:34 cait hm not sure I am leistungsfähig 23:33 rangi tüchtig 23:33 bg cait - the last thing chris just pushed 23:33 rangi effizient 23:33 cait ? 23:33 bg yeah - that totally worked for me :) 23:33 rangi i like 789 23:33 rangi bg: hehe yeah it was pretty funny :) 23:32 rangi cait: if you tested, im doubt you missed much :) can you say this, you are very leistungsfähig ? 23:32 bg rangi I preferred usecontrolnumber syspref allows you to like the 78X fields to 23:31 cait rangi: I am done with acq - quite sure I missed some things, but can't find them 23:30 bg probably not cait 23:30 cait hm, thinking about it - the only alchol I have is egg liqueur I use for baking - and I don't think that will complement the tea very well 23:30 bg so what's the count down look like now - less than 10 hours to the release? 23:30 wizzyrea_away oo 23:28 bg hot toddy 23:28 bg or rum ;) 23:27 rangi not unless you put whisky in it 23:27 cait hm jasmine tea probably doesn't count? 23:27 rangi i drank some bordeaux last night 23:26 cait I think we had similar temperatures here today :) 23:26 bg we can pop some champagne to honor Elizabeth and 3.4 ;) 23:26 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (10:00 AM NZST on April 22, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 23:26 huginn wizzyrea_away: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 13.6�C (6:28 PM CDT on April 21, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). 23:26 rangi @wunder wellington nz 23:26 wizzyrea_away @wunder 66049 23:26 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.9�C (1:25 AM CEST on April 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady). 23:26 cait @wunder Konstanz 23:26 bg you should all come to sunny Santa Barbara for the release of 3.4 23:26 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.8�C (4:27 PM PDT on April 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect until midnight tonight... 23:26 bg @wunder 93109 23:25 cait hi bg :) 23:25 bg heya cait 23:25 cait that was weird, but it's all working now 23:22 cait weird 23:22 cait now it shows 23:20 cait hm 23:10 cait I can't edit funds - but i was able to earlier today 23:10 cait this is strange 23:08 cait hm 23:04 cait um yes, the whole table is not showing 23:04 cait no 23:03 * rangi needs to get somethign to eat be back in a sec 23:02 rangi the whole table isnt showing? 23:02 cait hm I have budget, I have funds... I want my table! 23:02 cait I am template testing - don't assume the worst :) 23:01 rangi phew 23:01 cait no on acq home 23:00 rangi in the db? 23:00 cait the budget table is missing 22:59 cait oh! 22:58 jenkins_koha Starting build 220 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:58 wizzyrea_away of course, you should take extra time off because this is technically work 22:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6250 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: Link to order in uncertain prices list broken 22:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6249 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: Can't order from suggestions 22:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6250: Link to order in uncertain prices list broken 22:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6249: Can't order accepted suggestions 22:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #219: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/219/ 22:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6251: Acq: receiving orders <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=300a87a94c5177e2c09c2f89383df0faffd508f7> 22:52 rangi today is holiday here 22:51 cait tomorrow is holiday, no problem staying up a bit longer 22:50 wizzyrea_away ooo even better 22:50 cait jasmine tea :) 22:50 wizzyrea_away cait: drink plenty of water :) 22:49 cait I will go when concentration is gone 22:49 rangi seems that is the best way to get it tested 22:49 rangi yeah i should have merged in the TT stuff sooner 22:49 cait should have done that earlier 22:48 cait found the next on histsearch 22:48 rangi i really appreciate your work 22:48 cait it's ok 22:48 rangi you shouldn't stay up too late cait 22:48 rangi cool 22:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6251] Acq: Some problems with receiving orders <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6251> 22:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6251 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: Some problems with receiving orders 22:47 cait bug 6251 sent 22:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6250: Link to order in uncertain prices list broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e7ecd4fd1c8bd2361427d3bcaa8f2247732a666> 22:18 jenkins_koha Starting build 219 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6248 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: order from staged marc file broken 22:18 jenkins_koha Katrin Fischer: Bug 6248: Acq: order from staged marc file broken 22:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #218: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/218/ 22:15 cait bye wizzyrea :) 22:15 rangi im sure there was a bug fixed to do with zebra passwing back xml 22:14 wizzyrea ok peeps, gotta go but will def be back 22:14 cait 1 2 next - next is ok, 2 not 22:14 cait hm the pagination on parcel is broken, - it's missing the supplier id 22:12 rangi jcamins_away: you still away? 22:11 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6250] Acq: Link to order in uncertain prices list broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6250> 22:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6249: Can't order accepted suggestions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4770c531af37bdb2b5e14f492e5b7c0366d09ada> 22:09 wizzyrea *nod* 22:09 rangi ta 22:05 cait sent 6250 for uncertain prices 22:04 wizzyrea there should be a comma after features 22:04 pastebot0 "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "revision :)" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/23 22:01 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6249] Acq: Can't order from suggestions <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6249> 21:57 rangi cait: yeah, acq does seem to be by far the most problematic 21:57 wizzyrea :) 21:57 wizzyrea 1s, I have some wording for you 21:56 cait spotted next on uncertain prices 21:56 cait seems like every template has a problem in acq 21:56 rangi thanks cait 21:56 cait and looks good :) 21:56 cait sent 6249 21:55 druthb that looks good, rangi. 21:54 rangi yay 21:54 pastebot0 "rangi" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "Can I get a proofread/suggestions please" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/22 21:54 wizzyrea phew, patron import = working 21:53 druthb no hiding, cait! 21:53 druthb cait++ 21:53 * druthb turns and points at cait. LOOK, EVERYONE! 21:52 * cait hides behind druthb 21:51 wizzyrea cait++ for the csv 21:51 wizzyrea bless you cait 21:46 * cait hides 21:46 druthb cait++ 21:38 jenkins_koha Starting build 218 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6247 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: oder from existing record broken 21:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Acq: basket table broken 21:38 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6247: Acq: order already existing record broken 21:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6245 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Can't oder from Z39.50 in acquisitions 21:38 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6246: Modify/Delete links were missing from basket lines 21:38 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6245: Can't order from z39.50 search in acq 21:38 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #217: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/217/ 21:32 bencahill lol 21:32 wizzyrea ask amazon :P 21:32 bencahill hmm, will the website be up soon? 21:30 cait owen's blog is http://www.myacpl.org/koha/ 21:30 wizzyrea acpl koha blog usually gets it 21:29 cait I hoped wahanui knows the url 21:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6248: Acq: order from staged marc file broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7ea2ca4a3cf3b6a32b439ce814c126cb07a6bfa> 21:29 wahanui hmmm... owen's blog is a good starting point 21:29 bencahill cait: owen's blog? 21:29 bencahill cait: I suppose just play around? 21:29 cait bencahill: owen's blog is a good starting point 21:28 cait bencahill: you can do a lot with koha + css 21:27 wizzyrea ty ty 21:27 cait sent 21:26 wahanui cait: I forgot email 21:26 cait wahanui forget email 21:26 wizzyrea lrea@nekls.org 21:26 wahanui email is weird 21:26 cait email? 21:26 wizzyrea :) 21:26 wizzyrea that's ok 21:25 cait but you would have to change categorytype, branchcode and perhaps dateformats 21:25 cait wizzyra: I have one with 21 patrons 21:25 bencahill hey guys, can I (semi-)easily make the opac fit into my own website layout? (I can do any css, just don't do perl) 21:24 cait perhaps 21:23 wizzyrea hey, anybody have a patron CSV they can shoot me? 21:21 cait I thin it works in 3.2.2 21:19 rangi ive never used lateorders 21:17 cait and the supplier pull down is empty 21:17 cait but I always get 0 results 21:16 cait I wonder if 0 days ago should bring up my orders 21:16 rangi thanks wizzyrea 21:16 rangi but tools would be good 21:16 rangi i did reports 21:16 wizzyrea tools... I can run through tools 21:16 cait tools and reports someone? 21:15 cait I did circulation reports and staged marc import 21:15 wizzyrea with all sorts of mistreatment, and they seemed good 21:15 wizzyrea I ran through several reserves earlier 21:15 cait looking at lateorders now 21:15 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6248] Acq: order from staged marc file broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6248> 21:12 * rangi has been circulating and cataloguing items, which seems all good, so thank you for running through acquisitions 21:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6248 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: order from staged marc file broken 21:09 cait bug 6248 done 21:09 cait sometimes they can be really loud! 21:01 rangi heh 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6244 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Javascript error on circulation home page 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6240 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, edit subscription loses bib link 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6168 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Can't delete holds from circulation page 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6236 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, cannot receive serials 20:59 wizzyrea botfight! 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6237 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Recent changes leave compile time warnings in additem.pl 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6232 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Can't link authorities to bibliographic record 20:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 217 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6231 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, System preferences in XSLT view broken 20:59 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6244, Javascript error on circulation home page 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6238 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing 20:59 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6240 : pass a hash to template not a scalar 20:59 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6168, Can't delete holds from circulation page 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6234 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Links on hold ratios report broken 20:59 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6236 : When checking for expiry don't try to process 0 dates 20:59 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6237: remove compile time warning 20:58 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6237: Remove redeclarations of global vars in same scope 20:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6232: Impossible to link authorities to bibliographic records 20:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6231: some system preferences in XSLT broken 20:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6238 - Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing 20:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6239 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Merging records broken 20:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6234: Fixing missing biblionumber for links using biblio-default-view.inc 20:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6239, Merging records broken 20:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #216: SUCCESS in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/216/ 20:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6247: Acq: order already existing record broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e87ba24b632f8532159cae6e2e36edf0e63dca8> 20:52 cait think they might have a local expert :) 20:51 rangi well lots of libraries in kenya run koha 20:50 cait not sure what ils they have 20:48 cait one of my coworkers got to do training in greece and new york for the goethe institutes 20:47 cait hehe 20:47 rangi cait: you should go do some consulting for them :-) 20:47 rangi oh very cool 20:46 cait and yes they are in our union catalog: http://swb.bsz-bw.de/DB=2.308/SET=2/PRS=HOL/SHW?FRST=1&HILN=888 20:46 * cait blushes 20:46 wizzyrea cait is on FIRE 20:46 rangi cait++ # another perfect fix 20:43 cait not sure about this one 20:43 cait the goethe institutes are participating in our union catalog 20:43 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6247] Acq: oder from existing record broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6247> 20:43 cait interesting! 20:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6246: Modify/Delete links were missing from basket lines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=caf4c4b37e9d954d845fd876ac0d4ed0b567a97a> 20:36 rangi pretty cool 20:36 rangi http://kohakenya.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/goethe-institut-workshop-to-feature-koha/ 20:35 rangi http://kohakenya.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/goethe-institut-workshop-to-feature-koha/ 20:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6247 critical, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: oder from existing record broken 20:33 cait next is bug 6247 - patch coming 20:32 cait :) 20:31 rangi cait: works perfectly 20:31 druthb SteveJ: ...k Calling now. 20:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3674 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, REOPENED, Creating users with empty password 20:30 jenkins_koha Chris Nighswonger: Revert "3.0.x: ce353e7 bug #3674 allow users creation with disabled password" 20:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.2.x build #22: SUCCESS in 1 h 16 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/22/ 20:30 SteveJ druthb, I am back. 20:30 druthb wanahnui: Brooke_ is the best dinner companion a girl could want. 20:30 wizzyrea cataloging, for one 20:29 wizzyrea gamambel: certainly there are parts of koha you could use for that project 20:29 wahanui druthb: I forgot brooke_ 20:29 druthb wahanui: forget Brooke_ 20:29 wizzyrea francois++ 20:28 rangi wizzyrea: one of francois' pieces of software 20:28 * druthb thinks. 20:28 wahanui well, Brooke_ is hearing no objections 20:28 druthb wahanui: Brooke_? 20:28 gamambel will add it to the log :) 20:28 rangi like gravatar but distributed and libre 20:27 rangi factor adding support for that in to your opac 20:27 wizzyrea hee 20:27 gamambel like gravatar? 20:27 gamambel rangi: avatar? 20:27 rangi http://www.libravatar.org/ 20:27 gamambel wizzyrea: if you look at the list of my "projects", it won't be anytime soon i guess :) 20:27 rangi gamambel: have you seen libravatar ? 20:27 wizzyrea yw, good luck on the project :) 20:26 druthb Brooke_ has been here, clearly. 20:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6245: Can't order from z39.50 search in acq <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74f6bd4f88d64bacfdf49ffa4a17fef4ecec01e0> 20:26 gamambel if anyone has some input on my distributed opac idea, feel free to contact me :) 20:26 * druthb blushes. 20:26 wahanui you are probably one fine number in a skirt. 20:26 druthb wahanui: druthb? 20:26 gamambel i gotta go now, thanks wizzyrea 20:26 druthb cait++ 20:25 rangi cait++ 20:25 rangi yay 20:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Acq: basket table broken 20:25 cait bug 6246 ready for testing 20:24 gamambel http://www.headstrong.de/projects/opac 20:24 jcamins_away :) 20:23 wahanui logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/ 20:23 jcamins_away logs? 20:23 jcamins_away logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/ 20:23 wahanui jcamins_away: I forgot logs 20:23 jcamins_away wahanui: forget logs 20:23 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-04-21#i_649627 20:23 wahanui jcamins_away: excuse me? 20:23 jcamins_away Well, that wasn't too helpful, wahanui. 20:23 wahanui logs are down 20:23 jcamins_away logs? 20:22 wizzyrea fine by me 20:22 rangi gamambel: yep, this is publicly logged 20:22 gamambel can i put this discussion on my website to explain what i'm looking for? :) 20:21 gamambel yes 20:21 rangi cait: yay! 20:21 wizzyrea something like that? 20:21 gamambel "owner: gamambel, location: wizzrea, available" 20:21 gamambel "owner: gamambel, location: <currently lended>, return to: wizzrea, rangi, cait, gamambel" 20:20 wizzyrea Ah 20:20 gamambel they can keep it, as long as the system knows it is there 20:20 gamambel wizzyrea: they don't have to return it to me 20:20 gamambel i don't care where the item was in between, i want to make sure i can get it back (or tell people where it is to get it) 20:20 cait found the problem :) 20:20 rangi cait: hah? 20:20 wizzyrea well, lending as in "I'm giving you this book (checking it out), and you can return it to matt, dick, harry, or any of my other listed friends. Then they will return it to me" 20:19 gamambel but not necessarily only distributed between my friends 20:19 gamambel it's sort of a library in that my items can be returned to any of my friends 20:19 gamambel something like that, but scalable 20:19 gamambel and if i need it back i call the person 20:19 gamambel i currently write down the name of the friend who i gave items to 20:19 gmcharlt more like book routing 20:18 gmcharlt but if I'm undersating gamambel correctly, it's not necessarily "lending" per se as a library would understand it 20:18 wizzyrea hmm 20:18 gamambel for circulating items, yes 20:18 wizzyrea you're wanting a kind of social network for lending between friends 20:18 gmcharlt right 20:18 wizzyrea if I"m understanding 20:18 gamambel right 20:18 wizzyrea you're not lending, you're giving 20:18 wizzyrea but bookmooch doesn't "Circulate" per se 20:18 cait hah! 20:18 gamambel also it is not quite the thing i am looking for 20:17 gmcharlt gamambel: not open source, purely a service 20:17 gamambel looks ugly 20:17 gamambel is it open source? 20:16 oleonard I tried bookmooch a while ago and got frustrated with the terrible interface 20:16 gamambel any things i should look into other than koha then? 20:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6246 critical, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Acq: basket table broken 20:15 cait working on bug 6246 now 20:15 cait cool :) 20:15 rangi cait: testing 6245 patch now 20:15 gamambel bookmooch? never heard of that 20:15 gamambel i guess none of the existing OPACs is :( 20:15 gmcharlt bookmooch for tightly-knit groups, then? 20:15 wizzyrea that's an interesting idea, but koha isn't really designed for *that* 20:14 gamambel i don't want the book to circulate outside of the circle too much, but as long as it returns to the circle of my friends some time i am fine 20:14 gamambel like bookcrossing in some sort, but more friend-to-friend 20:14 gamambel basically i don't as long as it is in some catalog 20:14 gmcharlt gamambel: in this system, how much do you care if a book doesn't get returned at all? 20:13 gamambel but i think that is too complicated 20:13 gamambel ideally it would be a distributed system like statusNet 20:13 gamambel hehe right that too 20:13 rangi judging by his hostmask, librarythings privacy policy is probably not up to scratch for this sort of thing :) 20:13 gamambel and a searchable OPAC for my friends 20:13 gamambel but it does not have the "i can return the item to any of his friends", does it? 20:13 gamambel i am a member at librarything 20:13 gamambel yeah i know librarything and goodreads 20:12 gmcharlt or goodreads? 20:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6245] Can't oder from Z39.50 in acquisitions <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6245> 20:12 wizzyrea have you looked into librarything at all? 20:12 gamambel ;) 20:12 gamambel in some sense we all have items 20:12 gamambel i mean, everyone is a library, right? 20:12 gmcharlt gamambel: it would be fairly radical, but yes, you could build what you want into Koha 20:12 wizzyrea not individual items 20:11 gamambel yes 20:11 wizzyrea you mean the libraries are "friends" 20:11 wizzyrea yea, I think so, it definitely does your base requirements of letting you circulate items and return them at branches other than their homes 20:11 gamambel like a facebook for books 20:11 gamambel more like "friends" 20:11 gamambel no 20:11 gmcharlt gamambel: would these communities fall into a hierarchy? 20:10 gamambel but koha would be a good base? 20:10 wizzyrea thing we thought we'd get back a few years ago 20:10 rangi yeah, that concept doesnt really exist, you can only belong to one 'branch' currently 20:10 wizzyrea that would be like the sysgroups 20:10 gamambel i'm looking for the best suitable base system to start with 20:10 wizzyrea yea, that would require work 20:10 gamambel yeah i know 20:10 gamambel like, if i am part of 3 communities, my stuff can be returned to any of the three communitiesw 20:09 rangi that would need development work 20:09 gamambel and to have "overlapping" communities 20:09 gamambel i want communities to be able to register and create their own "library-of-trust" 20:09 gamambel anything specific i should look into? 20:09 gamambel wizzyrea: cool that's what i wanted to hear 20:08 rangi s 20:08 rangi thank 20:08 nengard yes 20:08 wizzyrea Koha can do that 20:08 rangi nengard: so i can mark that bug resolved fixed? 20:08 gamambel and i can use the website to locate the object 20:08 gamambel i'm looking for an OPAC i can use for communities, and things can be returned to any of the community members 20:07 gamambel nice team you got here! 20:07 wahanui what's up, gamambel 20:07 gamambel hi 20:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6245 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Can't oder from Z39.50 in acquisitions 20:07 cait bug 6245 20:06 cait sending one for acq now 20:06 jenkins_koha Starting build 216 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6243 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Link to fast cataloging missing from circulation home page 20:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6230 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Search to hold links in result list 20:05 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for bug 6243 - Link to fast cataloging missing from circulation home page 20:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6229 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Patron messaging table preview broken 20:05 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6230: Search to hold links on titles in result list were missing 20:05 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6229: Message preferences on patron details tab broken 20:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #215: SUCCESS in 1 h 6 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/215/ 20:05 cait the include file caused lots of problems 20:05 nengard yeah - just tested and it works in staff and opac 20:05 cait yep 20:04 nengard one of her patches did the trick 20:04 nengard cait fixed it though 20:04 nengard hang on 20:04 nengard i think 20:04 nengard just the staff 20:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6241 critical, P5, ---, chris, NEW, links on lists missing bib number 20:04 rangi nengard: bug 6241, just the staff side or the opac too? 20:01 nengard not attending ... but i can be around specific times 20:01 nengard I'll be presenting 19:59 rangi nengard will be there im sure 19:57 SteveJ Is anyone planning a get together at SLA in June? I searched the official schedule but did not see anything. 19:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6244, Javascript error on circulation home page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=87792339487dfc6464df2ac8dd79b50ebb4281ab> 19:54 rangi yep 19:53 gmcharlt at least, considering the way such policies run 19:53 gmcharlt at least the official desupport of IE6 means that entities that care about such things *have* to do something 19:53 wizzyrea :) well that would be ideal 19:53 rangi SteveJ: there will be issues with 6 and staff 19:53 nengard perfect 19:53 SteveJ I would suggest getting rid of IE altogether, heh 19:53 wizzyrea 7 was a dog :P 19:53 * oleonard agrees as well. And why not get rid of 7 too? 19:53 SteveJ Oh I know it is an issue, but it is not something I have any control over:) 19:53 wizzyrea at the very least :) 19:52 wizzyrea I would probably agree with rangi: you need to work towards eliminating 6 19:52 rangi its pretty much guaranteed to have some javascript issues somewhere on the staff side 19:52 rangi even microsoft tell you not to 19:52 rangi i wouldnt ever run 6 for anything anywhere ever 19:52 rangi im less motivated to care about supporting old ie in the staff side, but i think 7+ for that 19:52 SteveJ I found out that people are running everything from 6-8 at my office, and want to make sure that would not cause problems (both on the staff and opac sides). 19:51 rangi well we strive to make the opac work in everything 19:50 SteveJ Didn't know there was a difference, so lets say both 19:50 rangi for the opac, or the staff side? 19:50 SteveJ What is the IE browser compatability for the latest stable? 7+? 19:48 rangi cool 19:48 cait :) 19:48 cait think I found it - I searched on the neworderempty but i think its the result list 19:48 cait yup 19:47 rangi sounds like a scope thing again 19:45 cait when I oder from z39.50 and try to save i get an error about lost basket number 19:45 cait hm 19:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6240 : pass a hash to template not a scalar <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01ccaf84e5dfc71e13a4a0d12ba422621909b953> / Follow-up fix for Bug 6168, Can't delete holds from circulation page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e33a071f0b72995c59d3f047d7161ce0b501453> 19:42 rangi its something like that 19:42 rangi overdues dont 19:42 rangi i think hold notices, and checkin/checkouts do 19:42 cait not sure which (speaking about email addresses) 19:42 cait some end up there, but only very few 19:41 oleonard Okay, I figured that might be the case 19:41 rangi confused me to 19:41 rangi oleonard: nope, they get pulled out when the mail is sent 19:41 oleonard There are columns in the message_queue table for "to_address" and "from_address," but in my test system they're empty 19:40 nengard um ... isn't that in the borrowers table? 19:40 oleonard Does the message_queue table not actually store email addresses? 19:39 nengard well it is a new computer after all :) hehe 19:36 wizzyrea I think you can never get below 13 19:35 nengard wow, i did good ... I had 13 19:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6236 : When checking for expiry don't try to process 0 dates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a56ada2f144f8212c5212d19ab886b7702d075c> / Bug 6237: remove compile time warning <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d663c7e8aae16a1b12c03af20b152b186829abf> / Bug 6237: Remove redeclarations of global vars in same scope <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha 19:31 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6240] edit subscription loses bib link <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6240> 19:31 * oleonard has Firefox configured to clear most cookies when Firefox closes 19:30 wizzyrea hmm 19:29 * chris_n had >47 :-D 19:25 wizzyrea ashamed. 19:25 wizzyrea i had like 40something 19:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6232: Impossible to link authorities to bibliographic records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ecf4bb9a51d72ce1e871d23432daf1effa5d17f1> / Bug 6231: some system preferences in XSLT broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=224f382c7a1669c4fc8b297abaae5f499f889659> / Fix for Bug 6238 - Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing <http://git.koha-community.org/ 19:24 wizzyrea oy 19:22 chris_n yeah, you just have to keep clicking... its amazing how many tracking cookies one attracts in a very short period 19:21 wizzyrea chris_n: thanks, that's interesting 19:20 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6244] Javascript error on circulation home page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6244> 19:20 chris_n for those who like their privacy: http://selectout.org/ 19:20 wizzyrea ha, no, actually 19:19 wizzyrea working on something else 19:19 oleonard She was probably with her family or some nonsense like that ;) 19:19 * cait sends wizzyrea some cookies 19:17 cait where were you? 19:17 cait oh 19:17 wizzyrea I missed the git class :( 19:17 cait hm? 19:16 wizzyrea i'm still kicking myself for missing that. 19:16 cait ah, no I have a pretty empty one 19:16 cait rangi showed me how to do that at kohacon :) 19:16 wizzyrea I use a pretty big DB for my test server 19:16 wizzyrea hm interesting 19:16 cait and restore after testing 19:16 cait hm for database updates I dump my database before testing 19:15 wizzyrea every update you're testing? 19:15 wizzyrea fresh one for every load? 19:15 wizzyrea how do you guys manage your test DB's? 19:15 wizzyrea practical* 19:15 wizzyrea practicaly question 19:15 wizzyrea so 19:15 wizzyrea ah sok 19:15 cait the database is gone now :( 19:14 cait ind branches off i think 19:14 wizzyrea INDY branches IS ON 19:14 wizzyrea the biggies like 19:14 * wizzyrea really wishes for a quick display of sysprefs 19:14 wizzyrea ihow do you have your system set up? 19:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6234: Fixing missing biblionumber for links using biblio-default-view.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=93a18939e8753b578b97cc122010e57a995ae590> 19:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 22 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Revert "3.0.x: ce353e7 bug #3674 allow users creation with disabled password" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbb2ba492350073869cebaf75e7e972053d50a0c> 19:07 wizzyrea but 19:07 wizzyrea me too 19:07 wizzyrea well... 19:05 cait but happy it's me and not a bug :) 19:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6239, Merging records broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0eaa391aa782ffe1ac469a0f624e62faf64c9919> / Fix for bug 6243 - Link to fast cataloging missing from circulation home page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=514a60270cc27a555f0587ef6211aabdba9a8cad> / Bug 6230: Search to hold links on titles in result list were missing <http://git.koha-comm 19:03 cait no idea what happened 19:02 wizzyrea seems odd that you'd be having trouble 18:59 cait hm 18:59 cait ah ok... 2nd screen 18:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 215 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:59 cait to the items list with no hold placed 18:58 cait I came back to the holds screen 18:58 cait because it didn't do it forme 18:58 cait ad after ok the hold was placed? 18:55 wizzyrea paste happy 18:55 wizzyrea sorry 2nd 18:55 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/BOPhepiNCNZ 18:55 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/0VLmyD72tNh 18:54 wizzyrea but it did let me do it 18:54 wizzyrea seems odd it'd say "undefined" 18:54 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/0VLmyD72tNh 18:54 wizzyrea got it 18:53 wizzyrea k 18:53 cait there is one for holds 18:53 cait search for override 18:53 wizzyrea let me check my settings 18:53 wizzyrea well, it won't even let me pick that 18:53 wizzyrea k 18:53 cait hm yes 18:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6229: Message preferences on patron details tab broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3205d768fe83f09bb4c81c0175557e753bc78b1> 18:53 wizzyrea specific item hold? 18:52 cait and it asks normally not ... you really want to? 18:52 wizzyrea i'll check 18:52 wizzyrea k 18:52 cait where you get the yellow warnings in the holds screen 18:52 wizzyrea hmm ok 18:52 cait something like htat 18:51 cait no place a hold on a item not for loan 18:51 wizzyrea ? 18:51 wizzyrea check out a book over a hold 18:51 cait hm, I think it was a ref item 18:51 wizzyrea what are you trying to override? 18:51 cait I am resetting my database here to get back to a clean state right now 18:51 cait the button wouldn't work 18:51 cait the other thing was on this computer - the override holds 18:51 cait it's my computer at work - so I think we can't really track it down 18:50 wizzyrea hm 18:50 cait on 18:50 wizzyrea or off? 18:50 cait yep 18:50 wizzyrea AllowOnShelfHolds on? 18:50 cait but feeling better about that now! 18:50 cait wonder what's wrong with my settings 18:50 wizzyrea on an on-shelf item 18:50 cait yay 18:50 wizzyrea for holds 18:50 wizzyrea cait, I got a box 18:49 * oleonard has been learning from rangi's patches 18:49 wizzyrea not time for that, really 18:49 wizzyrea wanted to make sure I didn't have to switch DB"s and reindex 18:49 wizzyrea ty 18:49 rangi wizzyrea: yes it is 18:49 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6243] Link to fast cataloging missing from circulation home page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6243> 18:49 rangi man im glad git.k-c isnt in amazon 18:48 oleonard I wouldn't have noticed that the link was missing just by looking at it 18:48 * chris_n cheers rangi on 18:48 oleonard I was looking for more instances of the same bug that cased the problem with the merge records page 18:47 cait the fast add thing :) 18:47 cait oleonard: good catch! 18:47 wizzyrea rangi, master has 5579 in it now, correct? 18:45 cait thx a lot 18:45 wizzyrea k ii'll check that 18:43 cait you know, with the override syspref activated, I got the confirmation window but couldn't place it 18:43 cait and I had problems ovrriding a hold 18:43 rangi yeah its very cool 18:43 cait it's probably my setup - but would be happy to hear it works for you 18:43 oleonard Wow, export/import frameworks? I didn't see that before 18:43 cait on my work computer I put a hold on a on shelf item at the same branch and check-in didn't bring up anything 18:42 wizzyrea i certainly *can* go over them again 18:42 wizzyrea what specifically? 18:42 cait or tested 18:42 cait I had problems with holds -wizzyrea have you worked on those perhaps? 18:41 wizzyrea anybody got a bot for the countdown :P 18:40 rangi how many hours actually 18:40 cait 13:20? 18:40 rangi 13.20 again :) 18:40 cait could be a long night :P 18:40 cait 14 hours - wow 18:39 cait ok 18:39 rangi and I will note in the release announcement that due to the template::toolkit change we expect there will be a few more unfound gotchas 18:39 rangi any of these little patches, im not waiting on signoff for either, will just test them here and push 18:38 rangi and release it at 10pm 18:38 rangi im aiming to build the tarball at 8pm, which is in 14 hours 18:38 library_systems_guy oops wrong window :-/ 18:38 rangi theres prolly a lot of these little issues, the more we can get found and fixed the better 18:38 library_systems_guy exit 18:37 cait ok 18:37 cait oh 18:37 rangi 05:50 < cait> or just search for new bugs? 18:37 rangi 05:50 < cait> is there something that needs work right now? 18:37 * cait is confused 18:36 rangi i can sleep tomorrow 18:36 oleonard Hi rangi, you can't have gotten enough sleep 18:36 cait hm? 18:36 rangi cait: just more testing 18:36 cait hi rangi 18:36 rangi morning 18:28 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6239] Merging records broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6239> 18:16 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6235] "Saved" message in sysprefs never gets hidden on IE8 <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6235> 17:55 jcamins_away Follow-up patch 2. 17:54 jcamins_away That's why we now have a test to check the behavior. 17:53 rhcl gmcharlt: yes, ack response 17:53 jcamins_away It caused data corruption. 17:52 jcamins_away Wise. 17:50 cait jcamins: really never touched that script 17:50 gmcharlt rhcl: if so, doesn't seem relevant except to bodies that are themselves certification agencies 17:50 nengard library_systems_guy, my hubby does web qa and he has tests he runs, but he has to then visit all the pages and click all the links and try all the forms ... so there is no way (except a human) to test things thoroughly 17:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5683 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, REOPENED, link_bibs_to_authorities.pl can corrupt records 17:49 jcamins_away cait: you could sign off on the two follow-up patches to bug 5683. 17:48 gmcharlt rhcl: do you mean ISO 17021:2011 ? 17:48 * moodaepo should probably just email 17:48 cait or just search for new bugs? 17:48 cait is there something that needs work right now? 17:48 moodaepo This needs to be updated to point to the koha-community blog > http://owu.towers.org.uk/ 17:42 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6242] Javscript errors in label-item-search.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6242> / [Bug 6234] Links on hold ratios report broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6234> 17:41 jcamins_away [off] I guess that was so that people would be laughing when they sent in complaints? 17:40 rhcl Does ISO 2011 apply to Koha (or support companies) at all? "Conformity assessment -- Requirements for bodies providing audit and certification of management systems " 17:38 wizzyrea [off]farkle. hee. 17:32 jcamins_away person_who_did_the_fixed_fields_editor++ 17:28 cait but I think it's quite hard to do automatic testing on this things 17:28 cait perhaps selenium 17:28 library_systems_guy the reason I'm curious is I'm taking Software Development and this is stuff we talk about in class all the time 17:27 library_systems_guy can you even develop testing modules for things like that 17:27 library_systems_guy I think i've learned a lot about how much librarians pay attention to the little details since ive started working in a library 17:27 cait slightly broken tables 17:27 nengard checkboxes and mis aligned columns 17:26 cait library_systems_guy the little details 17:26 library_systems_guy guess that does make it challenging to test 17:26 library_systems_guy heh 17:26 nengard we're looking to make sure the page looks right and does what it's supposed to do 17:26 nengard we're looking for more than the page being there 17:25 nengard library_systems_guy, I know you think I'm awesome ... but I'm not where near as awesome as rangi and he will get the releae out on time!! :) 17:25 library_systems_guy can you do a link based parser and check the page header or are you looking for more than just if the page is there 17:24 cait but they don't catch template problems 17:24 cait no, we have unit tests too 17:24 library_systems_guy or are there unit test available? 17:23 library_systems_guy right now is testing just somebody seeing if it works? 17:23 cait np 17:23 cait yep 17:23 oleonard Thanks for your work on it 17:23 cait oleonard: going to refactor the patch - thx for the comments 17:23 oleonard Oh yeah I'm not saying things weren't getting fixed 17:23 cait we all have a lot to do - but I think we need to find a way to do more systematic testing 17:22 cait chris hall fixed a lot of things I reported 17:22 oleonard I think we're still a ways from finding all the problems. 17:22 oleonard The trouble with testing the TT branch was so much was broken, it was hard to get down to the small details 17:21 cait but rangi decides 17:21 cait I think that will not happen 17:21 library_systems_guy nengard: are you thinking of pushing back the release? 17:20 cait nengard: yes, more testing before a big release like this is needed :( 17:20 library_systems_guy I know when i used it with catalyst I really liked it 17:20 cait I think the nice things will come later 17:19 cait or it feels like that 17:19 cait at the moment i think we are only fixing it, not using 17:18 library_systems_guy speaking of TT stuff, how is everybody liking using it? 17:17 nengard i feel like maybe we needed to test all this TT stuff sooner .. I know it was in it's own branch, but I never did anything with it :( 17:16 nengard and I'll sign off on it :) hehe 17:16 nengard awesome!! 17:16 cait oleonard made some comments I have to build in 17:16 cait nengard: is fixed by a patch I will resubmit 17:13 nengard i'll do it - sorry if it's a dup 17:13 sekjal nengard: not sure... I didn't 17:11 nengard_lunch did anyone report the bug with lists in the staff client where if you click the titles they don't go anywhere? 17:00 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6238] Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6238> 16:54 Brooke_ chow 16:51 wizzyrea their bit of aws was down earlier, but seems to be back now 16:51 oleonard Offline circ for them I guess. 16:50 wizzyrea oleonard: they do 16:49 * oleonard wonders if Liblime still hosts there 16:49 Brooke_ the cloud, it's not what's for dinner. 16:48 nengard hmmm hootsuite down too ... seriously do all these social sites use the same service? monopoly is bad 16:46 Brooke_ Truf. 16:46 Brooke_ I edited the wiki more than mah blog last release cycle. 16:45 * oleonard wanders off on a business cat tangent 16:44 oleonard The 500th business cat maybe? 16:44 wizzyrea and brought it back up in another zone 16:44 Brooke_ dez catz were sleepin 16:43 wizzyrea they probably got their EBS stuff out before it was impossible to do it 16:43 wizzyrea heh, but it was down earlier 16:43 Brooke_ and the site is up, so it can't be their fault :P 16:42 Brooke_ oh no you di'int blame lolcats for an outage :P 16:41 nengard hehe 16:41 * oleonard suspects it happened when the millionth lolcat was posted to Reddit 16:39 wizzyrea puns are simultaneously the best and worst form of humor. 16:39 wizzyrea hehe 16:39 wizzyrea < included 16:39 wizzyrea there are techs all over totally FREAKING OUT 16:39 * gmcharlt apologize profusely for that pun 16:39 gmcharlt the hashtag #ec2 is all a-twitter 16:39 wizzyrea you should see the AWS forums 16:38 wizzyrea one of those cascading failure deals 16:38 wizzyrea it's a big deal, apparently 16:38 nengard its been down a while ... can't amazon get their act together? 16:38 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6168] Can't delete holds from circulation page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6168> 16:38 nengard was very confused 16:38 nengard yes i did 16:36 wizzyrea if you had tried the home page you'd have seen ;) 16:36 wizzyrea sure. It's why k-c.org redirects to download.k-c.org atm 16:36 nengard me know 16:36 nengard thanks for letting meknow 16:35 nengard didn't know we were there 16:35 wizzyrea so just wait 16:35 nengard i just read about that being down 16:35 wizzyrea which is where the website is 16:35 wizzyrea ec2 is down 16:35 wizzyrea nengard 16:35 nengard anyone else? 16:35 nengard I'm getting a 404 on the doc page; http://koha-community.org/documentation 16:30 cait hi druthb 16:30 * druthb waves to cait, and grins like a fool. 16:29 cait hi Brooke_ 16:29 * Brooke_ waves to cait 16:17 Brooke_ then you have done your duty, young man :P 16:17 oleonard I dunno, half a dozen or so 16:16 Brooke_ but a few in I was dyin' 16:16 Brooke_ the first one was not terribly bril 16:16 Brooke_ did you catch more than one episode? Cause it's kind of like dexter so far 16:13 * oleonard tried Big Bang Theory and didn't care for it 16:11 wizzyrea kiwi-ism then :) 16:11 Brooke_ it ain't a britism 16:11 wizzyrea I think that's a british/kiwi-ism 16:10 Brooke_ you heard me :P 16:10 oleonard funny as? 16:09 huginn Brooke_: The operation succeeded. 16:09 Brooke_ @later tell kf big bang theory is funny as 16:09 Brooke_ kia ora 15:48 Oak Hello oleonard :) 15:47 oleonard Hi Oak 15:47 Oak \o 15:28 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6234] Links on hold ratios report broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6234> 15:28 kf will be back later for more bug hunting 15:28 kf oleonard++ even :) 15:28 kf oleonard+ 15:28 oleonard Thanks kf I'll test 15:27 kf bye all :) 15:27 kf I think there are more bugs hiding, but I am the last person here at work - time to leave 15:27 kf oleonard: patch sent 15:18 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6237] Recent changes leave compile time warnings in additem.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6237> 15:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6238 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing 15:18 jcamins_away Thanks. 15:18 kf bug 6238 15:18 nengard done 15:17 jcamins_away nengard: if you could copy the error message into that bug, it would be helpful, I think. 15:16 hdl no But I donot want to know how much time a command take every time I launch a command... ;) 15:14 * jcamins_away doesn't either 15:14 * wizzyrea doesn't 15:14 jcamins_away hdl: yeah, but do you remember to do that every time you run a script? 15:12 hdl wizzyrea "time yourcommand" i mean 15:12 hdl wizzyrea time yourcommand gives you the information 15:11 wizzyrea though, with this aws thing today, i'm not feeling so kindly towards computers. 15:11 wizzyrea such as it is 15:10 wizzyrea only pure digital precision ;) 15:10 wizzyrea none of this piddly manual writing things down nonsense 15:10 wizzyrea jcamins_away++ 15:10 gmcharlt wizzyrea++ 15:10 gmcharlt touche 15:10 jcamins_away Or, even better, a statistical summary at the end. 15:10 wizzyrea ;) 15:10 wizzyrea then you'd know 15:09 wizzyrea and same when it finishes 15:09 wizzyrea an echo of the datetime when it starts 15:09 wizzyrea you know what you should add to the script 15:09 wizzyrea >.> 15:09 wizzyrea I"m just being honest 15:09 gmcharlt ;) 15:09 gmcharlt you could win the pole vault record with error bars that high! 15:08 oleonard wizzyrea's ready to publish a scientific paper with precision like that ;) 15:08 jcamins_away No, no 1m+ systems. 15:08 wizzyrea so somewhere between 2 and 8 hours 15:07 wizzyrea and it was done when I awoke the next morning 15:07 wizzyrea well, to be honest I fell asleep, but it had been at least 2 hours when I went to sleep 15:07 jcamins_away wizzyrea: actually wait. We might. 15:07 gmcharlt wizzyrea: speaking of numbers, how long did remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl itself take? 15:07 kf place hold on available book - check in book 15:06 kf can someone please tell me it works? 15:06 jcamins_away But I'm guessing a *long* time. 15:06 jcamins_away wizzyrea: no we do not. 15:06 wizzyrea if you do, how long does an index take? 15:05 wizzyrea jcamins_away: does bywater have any libraries in the millions? 15:05 jcamins_away wizzyrea: ah. Yeah, it takes a while. 15:04 wizzyrea which is an old copy of nexpress 15:04 wizzyrea I didn't reindex nexpress, I reindexed my test server ;) 15:04 kf but I can return the book as often as I want, I get no slip 15:04 kf available for pickup 15:04 kf I was trying to get a book into my holds shelf 15:04 kf seems I am going crazy here 15:01 kf can' reproduce with other items 15:00 oleonard I'm not seeing that 15:00 kf I I think I know the reason perhaps: I accidently picked an item with a hold on it 15:00 kf yes 15:00 oleonard kf: It shows up twice on transferstoreceive? 14:59 jcamins_away wizzyrea_away: why did you reindex NExpress? 14:59 kf seemed easier than doing it with a hold 14:59 kf yes 14:58 oleonard kf: Did you use branchtransfers.pl to set the transfer? 14:55 kf can someone reproduce this? 14:55 kf now it shows up twice 14:54 hdl ah... More sensible to user interface. 14:54 kf new queston: I put an item into transfer to check the transferstoreceive for my master bug 14:54 kf oleonard: i will leave the dashed line for now 14:54 kf hmpf 14:53 oleonard It makes all of us scrutinize everything for changes 14:52 hdl us ? united states ? 14:52 kf searching for tt bugs makes us more critical 14:51 hdl oleonard: was in 3.0 as such 14:51 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. 14:51 jcamins_away @later tell nengard If you could copy the error we saw into bug 6236, I'd appreciate it. I can't duplicate on my VM. 14:51 hdl oleonard: yes 14:51 hdl oleonard: without adding some more descriptions 14:51 oleonard To indicate that the two fields are grouped? 14:50 hdl oleonard: just to show an inner box and related informations 14:49 kf a guess, to show that both belong to Date due 14:49 kf hm 14:49 oleonard hdl: Do you know what the intention was? 14:49 oleonard I agree it looks weird. 14:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6049 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, christophe.croullebois, NEW, Add a filter by date in overdue.pl 14:49 oleonard Added by Bug 6049 14:48 kf dashed borders? 14:47 kf hm 14:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1707 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED, Search for patron '%' returns all results 14:46 kf I use empty searches a lot 14:46 oleonard Bug 1707 14:46 kf me neither 14:46 jcamins_away oleonard: cool! I didn't know that. 14:46 oleonard kf: you could always use '%' to search all 14:46 kf it looks funny 14:46 kf is that by intention? 14:45 jcamins_away kf: probably not. 14:45 kf oleonard: can you look at something for me? the dashed border around the due date dates on /circ/overdue.pl 14:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6127 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Setting library on patron search brings back all patrons regardless of search 14:45 jcamins_away bug 6127. 14:45 gmcharlt koha-community.org and www.koha-community.org now point to the download site until EC2 is fixed 14:45 kf jcamins: was that supposed to make me feel better? 14:45 jcamins_away See... 14:45 kf I do that all the time 14:45 jcamins_away kf: the patron searching is entirely broken. 14:45 kf yep you werw 14:45 * oleonard wasn't aware that you used to be able to search all that way 14:44 kf :( 14:44 kf hm that's quite a big change in behaviour 14:42 jcamins_away kf: it does seem that an empty search doesn't return any results. 14:39 jcamins_away One moment. I don't have a VM running. 14:39 kf noramlly you would get all by sending an empty search 14:39 kf jcamins: can you check patron search? 14:39 jcamins_away I am. 14:39 kf ;) 14:39 kf file a bug 14:38 jcamins_away So, it looks like the Receive button's broken with T::T. 14:38 kf oleonard: is patron search broken again? 14:32 kf doesn't seem to break things 14:32 kf when I kill that, the link is gone 14:31 kf it's a <p class="ratiolimit"> 14:31 oleonard Clicking the hold ratio number populates the "refine results" form with that number. 14:30 oleonard Hm, that's new to me 14:29 kf but why the ratio? 14:29 kf the title yes - and it works now after the change 14:28 kf I wonder why the ratio is a link on that page 14:26 kf i will do this one and go home after it 14:26 kf and it works :) 14:26 kf oleonard: it's ok 14:25 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6235] "Saved" message in sysprefs never gets hidden on IE8 <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6235> 14:25 oleonard kf: I'd be happy to work on this if you'd like 14:24 oleonard [% INCLUDE 'biblio-default-view.inc' %] 14:24 oleonard [% biblionumber = SEARCH_RESULT.biblionumber %] 14:24 oleonard <p>[% SEARCH_RESULT.result_number %]. 14:24 oleonard Oh, because someone already fixed it 14:24 oleonard I wonder why catalog/results.tt is working? 14:23 kf let me test 14:23 kf not change it? 14:23 kf ah 14:23 kf how must the include look like ? 14:23 kf hm ok 14:21 oleonard We modify the include in each of those instances to pass the biblionumber variable to the include 14:21 oleonard [% INCLUDE 'biblio-default-view.inc' biblionumber= reserveloo.biblionumber %] 14:21 oleonard Here's my guess: 14:17 kf http://spedr.com/2tbB7QrI 14:17 kf often 14:16 kf I wonder how often this included is used 14:13 kf I will leave a comment 14:13 kf ok 14:12 oleonard I'd say make it new for now 14:12 kf or make it new / add you back 14:12 kf can I reassign this one to you? 14:12 kf hm ok 14:10 oleonard I'm tempted to wait for chris to wake up and ask him if there is some kind of wizardry he can suggest 14:10 oleonard kf, I don't know what to say about that one. 14:08 oleonard Yes it does 14:07 kf hope my explanation makes any sense... 14:07 kf does the include even make sense now with the scoping? 14:07 kf I think to fix it I need to add a scope this time - but will break the include 14:06 kf biblio-default-view.inc 14:06 kf that reserveratio.tt uses an include 14:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6234 normal, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Links on hold ratios report broken 14:05 kf ok, looking at bug 6234 14:05 oleonard Yes 14:05 kf oleonard: do you have a second? 14:05 kf uhoh 14:03 kf maybe reappeared? 14:03 kf yes, that was fixed 14:02 wizzyrea_away ah 14:02 oleonard Anyway, it stems from the record being part of a series. Koha thinks (thought?) series == serial, and wants (wanted?) to show serial info under 'publication details' 14:00 wizzyrea_away i realized after I posted it 14:00 wizzyrea_away it may be, that was the 5579 branch 14:00 oleonard I know what's going on there. Thought it was fixed. 14:00 oleonard wizzyrea_away: I saw your link in the log http://screencast.com/t/skbpuaqFhU 13:57 oleonard But now I see it just fine. 13:57 oleonard I guess it was a fluke. I could see the messaging table for every account but my own. 13:56 kf i am in full bug fixing mode today 13:55 kf tell me waht you see :) 13:55 * oleonard checks again 13:55 oleonard Oh wait, maybe not? 13:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6229 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Patron messaging table preview broken 13:54 oleonard kf, I'm seeing something weird when testing your patch for Bug 6229 13:53 kf oh, foudn new bug 13:53 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6231] System preferences in XSLT view broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6231> 13:49 kf gmcharlt: patch sent 13:47 wizzyrea_away pretty cool 13:46 wizzyrea_away yep 13:46 sekjal oh noes! 13:46 wizzyrea_away :/ ec2 having troubles, which is where our website is :( 13:38 * jcamins_away returns you to your regularly scheduled programming 13:38 sekjal jcamins_away: good to know, thank you 13:37 jcamins_away sekjal: note that the first time you create a package it takes a really long time because it has to download all the dependencies. 13:31 sekjal hi, kf 13:31 kf hi sekjal 13:30 Brooke_ 0/ 13:29 Brooke_ cause it let me save what I was editing 13:28 Brooke_ the wiki does not seem to be busted 13:28 oleonard Ouch. Error establishing a database connection 13:28 Brooke_ thought it was my connection but the other interwebs are otay 13:27 Brooke_ community site has gone all wonky on meh 13:27 Brooke_ hmph 13:24 * jcamins_away is glad he didn't do it. 13:24 jcamins_away gmcharlt: ah. 13:22 gmcharlt jcamins_away: overzealous automatic script that did s/URL/url/ in a couple places 13:19 jwagner Avaunt, spirit from the vasty deep! 13:19 * jcamins_away isn't here, but he's curious- what was wrong with the XSLTs? 13:10 kf ok 13:08 gmcharlt no, doesn't look like it 13:07 kf UNIMARC too? 13:06 kf yes, I will check all 3 files 13:05 gmcharlt as was MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl 13:05 gmcharlt kf: MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl was mangeld as well 13:04 gmcharlt kf++ 13:04 oleonard Is there a wizzyrea awake yet? 13:04 kf gmcharlt: I will write a patch 13:03 kf hi jcamins 13:03 * Brooke_ waves to jcamins. 13:03 kf 4133 files changed! 13:02 gmcharlt http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=5884fb100071e973daf671a4ada6b32724376768 13:02 gmcharlt try this 13:02 gmcharlt hmm, looks like not 13:00 kf with commit and the full commit hash? 13:00 kf I treid but got no result 12:59 gmcharlt you can also search git.koha-community.org for that commit hash 12:59 gmcharlt kf: yeah, that looks like a squashed patch, you have to page down til you get to the bit that changes the xslt 12:58 kf is there a better way? lots of css stuff? 12:57 kf I did a git show with the commit id 12:57 kf hm 12:56 kf let me check if I see it this time 12:56 gmcharlt ok 12:56 kf I can do 12:56 gmcharlt rangi: are you writing a patch? If not, I'll do it 12:56 kf and don't coe back again before morning! 12:56 kf sleep well rangi 12:55 gmcharlt rangi: sleep well 12:55 rangi right, back to sleep i go, ill push the fixed xslt patch in the morning :) 12:55 gmcharlt kf: I lend you my eyes, next time you'll lend me yours ;) 12:54 rangi case ones are hard to spot 12:54 kf I was looking at those files like forever and didn#t see it :( 12:54 kf phew but still 12:54 rangi phew 12:54 rangi ahhh 12:54 * kf grumbles 12:54 kf oh no, and I missed it 12:53 gmcharlt the syspref names as referred to in the XSLT are case-sensitive, that patch, for whatever reason, changed the case in a couple cases 12:53 rangi ta gmcharlt 12:53 gmcharlt rangi: 5884fb100071e973daf671a4ada6b32724376768 broke it 12:52 kf but otherwise no clue 12:52 kf I suppose it worked for the signoffer 12:52 kf the things abut usetracings 12:52 kf after UseControlNumber 12:52 kf I think jareds options were probably the last to get in 12:51 rangi kf do you know when it last worked? 12:50 kf to reproduce I mean 12:50 kf or check if the link shows up in the result list 12:50 kf it's easy to check: look at a record with an url and change the urlinnewwindow thing 12:50 kf gmcharlt: thx 12:49 rangi i put a warn in C4/XSLT.pm 12:49 gmcharlt kf: the syspref values are injected into the XML when the page is rendered 12:49 kf column 12:49 kf I can see nothing in my marcxml table 12:47 kf rangi: where do you see them? 12:47 kf noone was around until oleonard showed up and shortly after that it got crowded 12:46 rangi can others reproduce? 12:46 kf I found the problem with online resources on my latpop and on my work computer 12:46 rangi i cant tell, i can see all the sysprefs being set in the xml 12:45 kf but you can reproduce? 12:45 kf can I say for me it feels like one? 12:45 rangi but its weird, as nothing has changed that i can tell 12:45 kf I know... 12:45 rangi there is no data loss 12:44 rangi its def not a blocker 12:44 kf was going to check that when I found my next bug 12:43 kf I am not sure if it will break authorities too (the an number search) 12:43 kf I was tempted to mark that blocker 12:40 hdl mmmm... strange. 12:39 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6232] Can't link authorities to bibliographic record <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6232> 12:39 rangi afaict nothing has changed 12:39 oleonard ? 12:39 kf ? 12:39 gmcharlt yep 12:38 rangi [Fri Apr 22 00:39:43 2011] opac-search.pl: <syspref name="OPACURLOpenInNewWindow">0</syspref> 12:38 rangi [Fri Apr 22 00:39:43 2011] opac-search.pl: <syspref name="hidelostitems">0</syspref> 12:38 rangi [Fri Apr 22 00:39:43 2011] opac-search.pl: <items xmlns="http://www.koha-community.org/items"></items><sysprefs> 12:38 kf not good enough 12:38 kf kinda ruled templates out too - think the variable is not passed, but don't undersatnd how that works 12:37 kf while I am runnign from one bug into another today? :) 12:37 kf rangi: shouldn't you sleep? 12:37 rangi shows them being set in the xml 12:37 rangi adn a warn in C4/XSLT.pm 12:37 rangi i dont think its template::toolkit related either, since it doesnt use that 12:36 Brooke_ oi! stop using your x ray vision. Bugzilla doesn't like it. 12:35 * gmcharlt looks further 12:35 gmcharlt no, I don't think it's related to 5579 12:34 * gmcharlt looks 12:33 kf I wondered if that could be related to the recent changes for items and xxml 12:33 kf bug 6231 12:33 kf or you might know! 12:33 kf hi gmcharlt 12:32 * Brooke_ smiles at gmcharlt. 12:32 gmcharlt good day 12:31 kf I am not sure how the system preferences should be passed to the xslt 12:31 kf in xml 12:31 kf I wonder if the problem is that we got rid of the items? 12:31 kf thx a lot 12:31 oleonard Sure, I'll take a look 12:30 kf yes - that evil bug 12:30 kf ah sorry, system preferences in xslt 12:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6231 critical, P1, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, System preferences in XSLT view broken 12:30 oleonard Bug 6231? 12:30 kf was trying to check if it also breaks authorities linking when I raninto the next bug 12:30 oleonard What's up? 12:30 kf I am really stuck on that :( 12:30 kf oleonard: could you take a look at the xslt system preferences? 12:29 oleonard kf++ 12:29 kf oleonard++ 12:19 oleonard Hi all 12:19 Brooke_ 0/ 12:14 kf and I am digging for the next template bug 12:14 jwagner OK, I'll have to dig some more. Thanks. 12:14 kf yes 12:13 kf all on 3.2.2 12:13 kf hm, ok, one 2 of our librares use rfid, but 4 don't 12:13 jwagner So when your staff are checking out, and they scan an item, it goes ahead & completes the transaction? 12:13 kf never got complaints and our scanners are usually programmed like that 12:13 kf it should work the same for both 12:12 jwagner Question on the circ checkout page. I've had people complaining that with a barcode reader programmed to put a return after scanning, checkins accept that as if you'd clicked the submit button, but checkouts don't. Is that deliberate? 12:12 kf can someone test if linking an authority to a record works fort hem? 12:07 Brooke_ authorities are magical beasts best looked at but not touched. 12:06 kf I wonder if authorities linking works without systempreferences in xslt 12:04 Brooke_ odd, does here, too 12:04 kf these holidays are disturbing -t oday feels like friday 12:04 kf yes 12:04 Brooke_ is in eNZed 12:03 kf aha! today is not the 22nd 12:03 Brooke_ midnight + kids. 12:03 Brooke_ ^ 12:03 kf ok, it's probably too late for him 12:02 kf I think chris made him forget 12:01 Brooke_ oh that is so not good enough. 12:01 wahanui1 i think rangi is going to recommend that ppl using other languages wait for 3.4.1 12:01 kf rangi? 11:44 nengard hiya 11:44 Brooke_ hey nengard 11:43 jwagner Hi AmitG 11:38 AmitG heya jwagner 11:34 kf ? 11:33 * Brooke_ turns over boxen in search of the Classification Code for Cutter... 11:30 jwagner Hi kf 11:30 kf hi jwagnre 11:18 kf definitely the system preferences 11:18 kf ok 11:18 kf ok 11:17 * Brooke_ thinks you need some sleep, because you've been at this too long. 11:17 kf the 3.4 one 11:17 kf ok... too late for the big release 11:17 Brooke_ it is never too late with regular releases :D 11:17 kf why do one always discover such things when it's too late?? 11:16 Brooke_ harrumph 11:15 kf I started with: urls don't show up on result list 11:15 kf I am not quite sure yet 11:15 Brooke_ (also works on Frenchies) 11:14 Brooke_ (I can always make a German happy ;) 11:14 kf was ist los ;) 11:14 kf I think xslt doesn't work with system preferences any more 11:14 Brooke_ vas is loss? 11:14 Brooke_ aww :( 11:14 kf no, an h 11:14 kf lol 11:13 Brooke_ I hope that's missing an n and not an h 11:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6212 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Small display problems in OPAC results 11:13 kf bug 6212 11:13 kf bug6212 11:13 Brooke_ :) 11:13 kf *sigs* 11:13 kf kia ora Brooke 11:11 Brooke_ kia ora! 11:07 kf hmpf 10:15 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6230] Search to hold links in result list <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6230> 09:53 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6229] Patron messaging table preview broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6229> 09:49 kf and all becaue I wanted to test a new notcie for one of my libraries 09:42 kf rangi: sent 09:17 Waylon anyway.. night all. 09:17 Waylon anything else i haven't added to.... 09:16 Waylon nginx++ 09:16 Waylon hdl++ 09:16 Waylon rangi++ 09:16 Waylon Thankyou hdl and rangi! 09:16 Waylon okay.. gotta sleep. 09:15 kf rangi++ 09:15 kf patch coming up 09:14 kf and now it works! 09:14 kf bummer I missed that ne 09:12 Waylon wow, thats fast 09:11 Waylon plack works for the intranet side too? 09:11 hdl architecture is quite specific and uses 3 different machines.... 09:10 hdl http://cat-plack.univ-lyon3.biblibre.com/ 09:10 hdl Plack is working quite nice. 09:09 Waylon ahh! nginx + fastcgi.. too much problems.. but nginx + plack, works well? 09:08 rangi then that should fix the last column 09:08 rangi needs to be fixed 09:08 rangi [% UNLESS ( messaging_preference.messaging_form_inactive ) %] 09:08 rangi line 126 09:07 rangi so it doesnt show that, except when editing 09:06 kf ? 09:06 kf [% UNLESS ( messaging_form_inactive ) %]<th>Do not notify</th>[% END %] 09:04 kf but still the last column is slightly broken 09:04 rangi yay 09:04 kf rangi: all greyed out now 09:04 Waylon just looked it up... given .. when.. is neat! 09:03 Waylon ahh 09:03 hdl It is not in the official code 09:03 hdl I have that in my code. 09:03 kf :) 09:03 kf sure 09:03 wahanui1 hdl: I forgot it 09:03 hdl Waylon: forget it... 09:03 rangi cool thanks 09:03 rangi all the ones with messaging_preference.messaging_form_inactive 09:03 kf on it 09:02 rangi 74, 92 etc 09:02 rangi needs the same thing 09:02 rangi line 56 09:02 Waylon given when? 09:01 hdl Waylon: it informs the perl interpreter to decode the given when structure 09:01 rangi yeah 09:01 kf perhaps there is some more 09:01 kf but not the whole table 09:01 kf the pulldown for the days of the advacne notice got greyed out 09:01 kf hm interesting 09:00 hdl If you have given...when in it 09:00 Waylon hdl: huh.. what does it do? 09:00 rangi cool thanks 09:00 kf trying to do that right now :) 08:59 hdl add the line "use feature 'switch';" 08:59 kf yep 08:59 rangi kf did you see above? 08:59 Waylon ahh. what needs to be altered in opac-detail? 08:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6229 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Patron messaging table preview broken 08:59 kf bug 6229 08:59 hdl (It is an http lightweight wrapper) 08:59 kf ok, bug is 6229 08:58 Waylon ahh 08:58 hdl nope starman comes with plack 08:58 hdl And use nginx as a proxy to port 5000 + servicing static files directly 08:58 Waylon hdl: starman = nginx? 08:58 rangi if that works, i think we have fixed it 08:58 hdl you can launch KOHA_CONF=.... PERL5LIB=.... starman --workers 12 --port 5000 /path/to/prod.psgi 08:58 rangi can you try changing that to [% IF ( messaging_form_inactive ) %] 08:57 rangi [% IF ( messaging_preference.messaging_form_inactive ) %] 08:57 Waylon hdl: yup. we've just got two new servers, unused so far.. because i need to migrate the koha... thinking.. good oppertunity to optimize everything. 08:57 rangi line 39 08:57 rangi kf: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/messaging-preference-form.inc 08:56 kf and you can mark it works for me ;) 08:56 hdl you have to add a use feature 'switch' in opac-detail.pl 08:56 kf rangi: I will make a bug, add my screenshots 08:56 hdl it works in fact 08:55 hdl With Opac, it may work 08:55 hdl test before getting in production. 08:55 Waylon hmm... 08:55 hdl Waylon: yes... But use with caution 08:54 Waylon hdl: nginx, fastcgi and plack, can replace apache? 08:54 kf rangi: is it greyed out for you on the details tab? 08:54 rangi hdl: i referred him to you to reinforce that you cant just switch on fastcgi and have it work, there are persitent variables and circular references in the code that need to be fixed first 08:54 hdl Waylon: you may use http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=blob;f=prod.psgi;h=bc6507d8c877785f86b6eb2f6ff975b1f8618e9e;hb=a633db1447d8fa4e6569d4359d42f71dc3c6cc6e 08:54 hdl Waylon: if you have fastcgi and plack install 08:54 kf so, why is my table broken. hm. 08:53 rangi ah right 08:53 kf no preview 08:53 kf opac has onle the edit screen 08:53 kf yes 08:53 rangi kf: is it ok in the opac? 08:53 kf aha 08:53 Waylon hdl: yeah.. but rangi refered me on to you, as hes .. amazingly busy getting the 3.4 out. so.. nginx and fastcgi isn't enough? need apache too? 08:53 rangi ill look 08:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6163 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, patron messaging form screwy in multiple places 08:52 rangi Bug 6163 : Fixing typo in updatedatabase 08:52 kf it should be greyed out 08:52 rangi yes 08:52 hdl Waylon: rangi might be more active for that... you can create an apache vhost and use nginx as a proxy 08:52 kf and it should look different 08:52 kf yep, all edit screens look nice, but the table on the details tab is broken 08:51 kf but I have stil a broken table on the summary screen - on the edit screen it works 08:51 rangi ill check the git blame 08:51 rangi right, so it might have been broken then fixed 08:51 kf I added the underscore - the name shows correctly now 08:51 kf Advance 08:51 rangi or Advance 08:51 Waylon woo. cool. hdl: Koha via nginx .... how do i do it? 08:51 rangi what is in the db kf, Advanced 08:50 hdl Waylon: ? 08:50 hdl ? 08:50 rangi its fixed now 08:50 Waylon hdl, you responsive? 08:50 rangi $dbh->do("UPDATE message_attributes SET message_name = 'Advance_Notice' WHERE message_name='Advance Notice'"); 08:50 rangi yep 08:50 kf and the table breaks - that makes sense. it also does that when you miss to select the sample notices and transports during install 08:49 kf aha 08:49 rangi lemme check 08:49 kf ok, but why was Advanced Notice not changed 08:49 rangi right the updatedatabase must be wrong 08:49 rangi was the one i was thinking of 08:49 rangi ah yeah you cant have spaces in variable names 08:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6222 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Patron messaging preferences tables does not appear when modifying patron 08:48 kf bug 6222 08:48 kf it's message name in message_attributes 08:48 rangi 6222 08:48 kf but why? 08:48 kf Notice 08:48 kf they all have underscored -but not Advance Notiv 08:48 kf aha 08:47 kf Item Due has changed to Item_due 08:47 kf I notice that the message names in the database have changed 08:47 kf I am talking about the preferences table 08:47 kf hm, commit message is about the tabs 08:46 AmitG heya rangi, kf 08:46 rangi one from colin 08:46 rangi b993d2d2317720370d64f7fcca2230f9164ebeef 08:46 kf hm 08:46 kf and updated various times 08:46 kf it's quite old 08:45 kf I wonder if it's my database 08:45 kf events yes 08:45 rangi a 6 something one 08:45 rangi there was another one 08:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5328 critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron Messaging Preferences Table Is Missing Checkboxes 08:45 kf bug 5328 08:44 kf ok, not that one 08:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5238 minor, P5, ---, cnighswonger, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Fatal error when saving printer profile if paper bin field is blank 08:44 kf all I found was bug 5238 08:44 rangi i bet its a scoping thing again 08:43 kf and I never get advance notice 08:43 kf in staff it's broken on the summary page 08:43 rangi i see that in both 08:43 kf I only see that in opac 08:43 kf looking for owens bug now 08:43 rangi thats cut and paste from my page 08:42 kf yes 08:42 rangi Days in advance Email Digests only? Do not notify 08:42 rangi Do not notify 08:42 kf hm. 08:42 kf I am in master and git pulled... 08:41 kf with checkboxes 08:41 rangi what do you see? 08:41 kf the last colum should be Don't notify 08:41 rangi Digests Only 08:41 kf hm no 08:41 kf I have deleted all other language folders 08:41 rangi and the last colum is DIgest Only 08:41 kf it must be english 08:41 rangi yep 08:40 kf you have Advance Notice there? 08:40 kf mah 08:40 kf yes english 08:39 rangi cos it showing ok for me 08:39 rangi in english eh? 08:37 rangi hmmm 08:35 kf I will add screenshots 08:35 rangi i doubt i am going to have time to do anything about it, but if you update the bug someone else might be able to 08:34 kf in opac the table looks right, but there is still Unknown 08:33 * rangi hasnt been working on that, just pushed the patch from owen 08:33 kf staff 08:33 rangi opac or staff? 08:33 kf and insted of Advance notice it says Unknown?? 08:32 kf the header is missing from the last column, the layout is a little broken and it looks like it can be edited on the summary page - but it shouldn't have the checkboxes there, only when you open it for editing 08:30 kf rangi: the messaging table still seems to be broken 08:23 kf hmpf. 08:22 kf will upload it tonight and people can get it from pootle if they want 08:22 kf ok 08:20 kf and emptied the bin... 08:16 kf I have deleted the mail with the file it seems :( 08:16 kf oh no 08:14 rangi i wont be making anymore before the release 08:14 kf or both of you 08:14 kf rangi: you think it's save to update from that file later? 08:13 fredericd I agree that for Staff it puts Pootle server on its knees 08:13 kf I was not sure if rangi will make omre changes and didn't want to scare people by making it uncomplete again and again 08:13 fredericd for OPAC it should work 08:12 kf if you say it's ok I can do that now 08:12 kf I was not brave enough for uploading it 08:11 fredericd kf: Isn't it on Pootle? 08:10 kf for testing? 08:10 kf fredericd: want me to send you my translated german opac file? 08:10 rangi and you can see the tags easily 08:10 rangi because comments are comments 08:10 kf checking templates for translation issues 08:10 rangi i find the tempaltes much much easier to read 08:10 kf perhaps we need a I18N qa 08:10 rangi it is a lot easier to see with tt 08:09 fredericd a good article on the subject: https://gist.github.com/909197 08:09 kf normally it's me yelling at them :P 08:09 rangi hard, but possible 08:09 kf hm but probably hard to write a test for that? 08:09 rangi then jenkins can yell at them :) 08:09 rangi that complain about untranslatable strings 08:09 rangi if we write some tests 08:08 rangi we should pester them more 08:08 kf I can understand that - but it's still annoying :) 08:08 rangi yes 08:08 kf but developers forget about translation very easy 08:08 kf rangi: right, that's much easier! 08:08 rangi <if> whole sentence <else> whole sentence <end> 08:08 fredericd like _( in javascript 08:07 kf I hope it will be a little easier with TT now 08:07 fredericd the solution could be to modify ALL templates to explicitelly mark what has to be translated 08:07 kf I never got all the ifs and else right again 08:07 rangi its better to do 08:07 kf but I tried it once and gave up 08:07 kf there is a lot of that in the borrower accoutns page 08:07 rangi would be the right thing to do 08:07 rangi yes, fixing the templates for that 08:07 kf being constructed like <part sentence> <if else constructs> <part sentence> etc. 08:06 fredericd where you need to rearrange words, variables, in the sentence 08:06 kf I would like to get rid of those sentences int he templates 08:06 kf you are right probably 08:06 fredericd it's not that easy for other languages 08:06 kf ah 08:06 kf and having no placesholders makes it harder 08:06 fredericd I mean that in German or French you can find a sentence which has a similar syntax than the English one 08:05 kf and there was not a lot of testing too 08:05 kf don't know 08:05 kf hm sorry fredericd? 08:05 fredericd but I don't understand why other languages translators aren't complaining more! 08:05 kf rangi told me that with the new syntax it's hard to see if something is a real placeholder or a directive 08:05 fredericd it can work now with German and even French 08:04 kf I can understand it - but I am not sure there is a perfect solution for that 08:04 kf hm, I think the basic thing is: copy it over and change only the english parts 08:03 kf I think a good example are all the pulldowns with formats on the advanced search page 08:03 fredericd I have a translator who isn't an IT person, and she complains... 08:03 kf yep 08:03 kf there are a lot of cases where a trailing space at the end makes the string fuzzy 08:03 rangi the trailing whitespace? 08:03 kf and there is a minor improvement we could make: 08:02 kf it's a lot more placeholders - that's right 08:02 kf xslt and javascript translation work now 08:02 kf but nothing obvious 08:02 kf I have completed opac and foudn no problems there in testing - still can have some hidden probles 08:02 fredericd with TT based strings 08:02 fredericd If it works I will update Pootle 08:01 kf I was testing the translation scripts all week 08:01 fredericd ok 08:01 rangi but kf updated them all using the tt files 08:01 fredericd Are you working on them or on TT based .po files? 08:01 kf I did it with poedit on my laptop 08:01 kf yes 08:01 fredericd kf: On Pootle, German .po files are those based on HTML::Template 08:01 kf making it hard to find out what belongs together 08:00 kf before it would cut such things into pieces 08:00 kf and you can see more clearly how sentences are constructed 08:00 kf but it also gives more flexibility 08:00 kf fredericd: I translated an updates opac po file and agree that you have to be careful 08:00 rangi yes, people will need to be careful and to test 07:57 fredericd Yes, but here we have placeholders for TT directives not for variables coming from Perl script 07:57 rangi translators have moved, deleted placeholders in the past 07:56 rangi yep, that has always been the risk tho 07:56 fredericd risk that translator move placeholders and so break template. 07:56 fredericd the text to translate but to accomodate TT condition tags. There is a 07:56 fredericd to translate %s %s %s are not here for containing variables related to 07:56 fredericd It's not very clear for translators. The placeholders in the string 07:55 fredericd msgstr "Document mis de coté à <b> %s </b>" 07:55 fredericd msgid "%s %s %s Item waiting at " 07:55 fredericd #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-user.tt:397 07:55 fredericd #. %3$s: IF ( RESERVE.found ) 07:55 fredericd #. %2$s: IF ( RESERVE.atdestination ) 07:55 fredericd #. %1$s: IF ( RESERVE.wait ) 07:55 fredericd In OPAC .po file it becomes: 07:55 fredericd Item waiting at <b> [% RESERVE.wbrname %]</b>[% IF ( RESERVE.formatted waitingdate ) %] until [% RESERVE.formattedwaitingdate %][% END %] 07:55 fredericd [% IF ( RESERVE.found ) %] 07:55 fredericd [% IF ( RESERVE.atdestination ) %] 07:55 fredericd [% IF ( RESERVE.wait ) %] 07:55 fredericd <td> 07:55 fredericd In opac-user.tt, line 397, you have that: 07:55 fredericd rangi: What do you think of this case?... 07:44 kf good morning #koha 07:30 rangi but that wont be tonight 07:30 rangi there is only one more thing I might do, and that is remove trailing whitespace 07:30 rangi nope i think between cait and I we got it working pretty well 07:19 fredericd rangi: Are you still working on TT parser for translation tools? 06:28 Waylon one vote for squeeze... hmm... only one problem with it... my host doesn't have it as a os reload option... so im going to have to put a iso image in a lockbox then attach it via imdi... ah what fun new things im learning today. 06:24 alex_a hi cait 06:18 cait bonjour alex_a 06:17 rangi squeeze 06:17 rangi my catalyst one 06:16 alex_a bonjour #koha 06:13 cait hm. 06:12 cait rangi: probably the if clause we constructed does not work correctly 06:07 Waylon okay! debian lenny or debian squeeze? 06:07 cait which mail? 06:07 cait thx rangi 06:04 rangi thats fine 06:04 cait I can send you the patch as far as I get with notes, would this be ok? 06:03 rangi all the wine lovers at work thought it was great 06:03 cait ah :) 06:03 cait was it good? 06:03 rangi very good bordeaux from paul 06:03 rangi I can look at when the wine wears off 06:03 cait updating from 3.2.4 also gives one about privacy 06:02 cait and one of them my stocknumber thing 06:02 rangi hmm 06:02 rangi orly 06:02 cait but starting from before items.stocknumber was introduced into the db (so that it's created by the updatedatabase) gives me all kinds of database errors 06:01 rangi send the patch ill fix the numbers 06:01 cait It's correct when you start with a 3.2.2 or 3.2.4 I have confirmed that now 06:01 cait I am working on the itemsstocknumberidx thing 06:01 rangi oh :) 06:01 cait the version numbers and comparing 06:00 rangi on the bus on the way home 06:00 rangi whats confusing? 05:25 cait hmpf. that is confusing. 05:21 cait rangi: around? 04:50 Oak good night Gallagher 04:49 cait good night brendan 04:47 Oak \o 04:47 bg night all 04:36 cait h ikmkale 04:36 kmkale hi cait 04:33 cait hmpf. 04:33 * druthb makes whining noises, and points at that ill-begotten Destiny system she's trying to convert. 04:32 cait ? 04:32 cait why are you awakeẞ 04:32 druthb hi, cait. :) 04:23 cait hi bg :) 04:23 bg good evening 04:23 bg heya cait 04:22 cait good morning #koha 04:13 druthb where I lived in west Texas, it routinely got above 38 in the summer, but rarely more than 41. And it was dry as a mother-in-law's kiss, not that soaking-wet humid kind of hot. 04:08 * space_librarian remembers 44 degrees. It was no fun. 04:04 druthb that is fierce. 04:04 druthb whew 04:03 kmkale yeh. No AC as the buildings are not completed yet :( 03:58 space_librarian That's horrible. 03:58 space_librarian yikes! 03:58 kmkale :( 03:58 kmkale hi space_librarian it was too much. Reached home 9pm 4hrs driving total. Outside temp was about 44 03:57 kmkale hi druthb 03:57 space_librarian namaste kmkale. How was the trip yesterday? 03:57 druthb Namaskar, kmkale. 03:57 kmkale Namaskar #koha 03:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3674 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, REOPENED, Creating users with empty password 03:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6224 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, New patrons created with an OPAC login but no password are assigned a default password 03:41 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 6224 : Revert "3.0.x: ce353e7 bug #3674 allow users creation with disabled password" 03:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #214: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/214/ 03:26 AmitG heya Brooke_ 03:26 Brooke_ 0/ 03:01 jenkins_koha Starting build 214 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 03:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 6227: tweak release notes 03:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6227 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, deprecate NoZebra for 3.4.0 03:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 6227: adjust description of NoZebra syspref 03:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 6227: remove search engine question from installer 03:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #213: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/213/ 02:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6224 : Revert "3.0.x: ce353e7 bug #3674 allow users creation with disabled password" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05eb43f5fc00889420e03845b5059d80bf1663ad> 02:39 Brooke_ 0/ 02:36 Brooke_ ye're up late. 02:35 Brooke_ 0/ 02:22 jenkins_koha Starting build 213 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:22 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Updating updatedatabase.pl to try to stop duplicate upgrades being run 02:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #212: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/212/ 02:09 Brooke_ I like that one. 02:09 Brooke_ :D 02:09 wahanui1 Brooke_ is hearing no objections 02:09 rangi hey Brooke_ 02:09 Brooke_ kia ora! 01:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 6227: tweak release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b52bd0a88c45e63c8e4644abe6a0b2f0a2475a40> / bug 6227: adjust description of NoZebra syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd2760bd169d8b8d1184a053a9db617975081327> / bug 6227: remove search engine question from installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7382cc31584 01:44 Waylon ? 01:44 Waylon tar backups or lvm snapshots on bare bones system... restoration..... how/ 01:43 Waylon xen gives me online backups via its tools... or via lvm snapshots.. and restoring.. bring down vm, bring up snapshotted vm. 01:42 jenkins_koha Starting build 212 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:42 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Updating upgrade instructions 01:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #211: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/211/ 01:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating updatedatabase.pl to try to stop duplicate upgrades being run <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=00fe00c729e8fc5e53fa7c9c8073f2d60b41bc4c> 01:37 brendan__ not to xen is the answer 01:33 Waylon to xen or not to xen.. that is the question.. 01:26 rangi heh 01:26 gmcharlt gotta make sure Koha is ready to support the Lunar Colony Library 01:26 rangi and it will be my new demo record 01:26 rangi now i have to find a record that uses that 01:24 rangi mein gott 01:24 huginn rangi: The coded form of the mathematical data contained in field 255 (Mathematical Data Area) of the bibliographic record. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,m,n,p,r,s,t,x,y,z,2,6,8] 01:24 rangi @marc 034 01:24 rangi srsly? 01:24 rangi distance from earth 01:20 rangi gmcharlt++ 01:18 rangi cool yeah that seems to work, (monkeying with the version number in the db) 01:17 rangi but yep i have that at top of the script 01:16 gmcharlt oh, right 01:16 rangi without the transform 01:16 rangi well its just C4::Context->preference 01:16 gmcharlt yes, assuming that my $original_version = TransfromToNum(C4::Context->preference('Version')); 01:15 rangi my brain is not working good, thats what you meant eh? 01:15 rangi if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion) && $original_version < TransformToNum("3.02.00.005")) { 01:10 rangi thanks 01:10 rangi yeah ill do that 01:10 gmcharlt yep 01:10 rangi so set a variable before we do anything recording the number we are coming from 01:09 rangi oh yeah thats better 01:09 gmcharlt and adjust the specific 3.3 updates to check to see if the applicable 3.2.x update was already run 01:09 rangi sorry? 01:08 gmcharlt rangi: that or have updatedatabase.pl record the original version number 01:08 rangi the danger i can think of, is that someone coming from early 3.3.x that hadnt upgraded in a while will miss some 01:08 rangi worth doing? 01:07 rangi thats the point where they diverged 01:07 rangi http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl;h=b51edd694cfb0f261200a6e5d11f917701517bf1;hb=9d5ab23d7c7bbbf2c83f9cddd15d730a62bb651a#l3809 01:06 rangi which would mean anyone coming from 3.2.x wont get the upgrade spazzing on them 01:06 rangi im tempted to move them up and change them to match the 3.2.x numbers 01:06 Waylon could just use straight Xen.... hmm.. 01:06 rangi they are repeated in master (cos thats where they come from) 01:05 rangi there are some updates that do inserts 01:05 rangi in the updatedatabase.pl for 3.2.x 01:04 rangi ok 01:03 jenkins_koha Starting build 211 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:03 rangi yay no asplode 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: tweaks to bulkmarcimport.pl 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: remove a now-unecessary vestigal variable 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: add line removed during patch review 01:03 jenkins_koha * Matthias Meusburger: bug 5579 : Fixes ISBD display 01:03 jenkins_koha * Matthias Meusburger: bug 5579 : Fixes several exports to embed items 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: teach MARC export to embed items when needed 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: remove unused routines 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: remove sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: reduce processing to log item changes 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: new routine to embed items in bib 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: correctly signal when to reindex bibs 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: fix moving items from bib to another 01:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: improvements to remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl 01:03 jenkins_koha * Henri-Damien LAURENT: Bug 5579: remove items from MARC bib 01:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #210: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/210/ 01:01 Waylon but xenserver hot snapshotting seems better than tar-ing. 01:01 gmcharlt rangi++ 01:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating upgrade instructions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff2ad23521ea19ef904f3a7615e10e745a28f9dd> 01:00 Waylon hmmmmm... lose 1.1gigs hdd to OS, per VM.... and 255 mb. 00:54 druthb As neither is here, I would presume not, Waylon. 00:49 Waylon is hdl or sekjal available? 00:37 druthb bg++ 00:35 druthb shux, boss, I din't do anything... 00:33 bg druthb++ 00:30 druthb mhm 00:30 space_librarian I think that was wonderful. 00:29 * druthb reads http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/release_notes/release_notes_3_4_0.txt; lines 12-14, and just cries and cries. 00:26 druthb rangi++ 00:24 jenkins_koha Starting build 210 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6215 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Pagination links missing on lists pages 00:23 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 6215 : Fixing a bug with virtuallists 00:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #209: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/209/ 00:19 gmcharlt hdl: good night 00:18 rangi sleep well 00:18 hdl see you 00:18 hdl time to go to bed 00:17 hdl KiokuDB seems to be concensual in Modern::Perl galaxy 00:17 rangi that chilts had used 00:16 rangi starts with r 00:16 rangi right, theres another one like that, i forget its name 00:12 hdl It would allow us to store some objects directly on disk... Would be a big + for tests 00:12 hdl seems really good. 00:11 rangi no, is it good? 00:11 hdl have you played with KiokuDB? 00:11 rangi if we do it right, we should be able to phase persistance in 00:11 rangi get them going, and then move others over 00:11 rangi we move them to Koha:: first 00:11 rangi i think for all those services 00:10 rangi yup 00:10 hdl the more we introduce Json and ajax, the more we will need DBIx::Class. 00:09 rangi to try it on a bigger client 00:09 rangi hdl: yes, i plan after the release (when i have time) 00:09 rangi hdl: i think the Koha:: namespace gives us the opportunity to introduce DBIx::Class in a more controlled manner, first only on services that are persistent perhaps 00:09 hdl Is it still working ok ? 00:09 hdl rangi: which success did you have with Plack Implementation for circulation. 00:08 rangi hdl yep a very good thing ;) 00:07 hdl But at the moment, there still is the problem of data persistence. which would slow down the things. 00:06 hdl gmcharlt: about your comment... Yes. I am more in favour of DBIx::Class than SQLHelper. 00:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 00:06 hdl so bug 5579 did make it... that's a thing. 00:02 * rangi goes back to the kitchen 00:02 rangi oh crap i forgot my coffee