Time Nick Message 00:02 rangi oh crap i forgot my coffee 00:02 * rangi goes back to the kitchen 00:06 hdl so bug 5579 did make it... that's a thing. 00:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 00:06 hdl gmcharlt: about your comment... Yes. I am more in favour of DBIx::Class than SQLHelper. 00:07 hdl But at the moment, there still is the problem of data persistence. which would slow down the things. 00:08 rangi hdl yep a very good thing ;) 00:09 hdl rangi: which success did you have with Plack Implementation for circulation. 00:09 hdl Is it still working ok ? 00:09 rangi hdl: i think the Koha:: namespace gives us the opportunity to introduce DBIx::Class in a more controlled manner, first only on services that are persistent perhaps 00:09 rangi hdl: yes, i plan after the release (when i have time) 00:09 rangi to try it on a bigger client 00:10 hdl the more we introduce Json and ajax, the more we will need DBIx::Class. 00:10 rangi yup 00:11 rangi i think for all those services 00:11 rangi we move them to Koha:: first 00:11 rangi get them going, and then move others over 00:11 rangi if we do it right, we should be able to phase persistance in 00:11 hdl have you played with KiokuDB? 00:11 rangi no, is it good? 00:12 hdl seems really good. 00:12 hdl It would allow us to store some objects directly on disk... Would be a big + for tests 00:16 rangi right, theres another one like that, i forget its name 00:16 rangi starts with r 00:17 rangi that chilts had used 00:17 hdl KiokuDB seems to be concensual in Modern::Perl galaxy 00:18 hdl time to go to bed 00:18 hdl see you 00:18 rangi sleep well 00:19 gmcharlt hdl: good night 00:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #209: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/209/ 00:23 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 6215 : Fixing a bug with virtuallists 00:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6215 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Pagination links missing on lists pages 00:24 jenkins_koha Starting build 210 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:26 druthb rangi++ 00:29 * druthb reads http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/release_notes/release_notes_3_4_0.txt; lines 12-14, and just cries and cries. 00:30 space_librarian I think that was wonderful. 00:30 druthb mhm 00:33 bg druthb++ 00:35 druthb shux, boss, I din't do anything... 00:37 druthb bg++ 00:49 Waylon is hdl or sekjal available? 00:54 druthb As neither is here, I would presume not, Waylon. 01:00 Waylon hmmmmm... lose 1.1gigs hdd to OS, per VM.... and 255 mb. 01:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating upgrade instructions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff2ad23521ea19ef904f3a7615e10e745a28f9dd> 01:01 gmcharlt rangi++ 01:01 Waylon but xenserver hot snapshotting seems better than tar-ing. 01:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #210: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/210/ 01:03 jenkins_koha * Henri-Damien LAURENT: Bug 5579: remove items from MARC bib 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: improvements to remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl 01:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: fix moving items from bib to another 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: correctly signal when to reindex bibs 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: new routine to embed items in bib 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: reduce processing to log item changes 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: remove sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: remove unused routines 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: teach MARC export to embed items when needed 01:03 jenkins_koha * Matthias Meusburger: bug 5579 : Fixes several exports to embed items 01:03 jenkins_koha * Matthias Meusburger: bug 5579 : Fixes ISBD display 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: add line removed during patch review 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: remove a now-unecessary vestigal variable 01:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5579: tweaks to bulkmarcimport.pl 01:03 rangi yay no asplode 01:03 jenkins_koha Starting build 211 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:04 rangi ok 01:05 rangi in the updatedatabase.pl for 3.2.x 01:05 rangi there are some updates that do inserts 01:06 rangi they are repeated in master (cos thats where they come from) 01:06 Waylon could just use straight Xen.... hmm.. 01:06 rangi im tempted to move them up and change them to match the 3.2.x numbers 01:06 rangi which would mean anyone coming from 3.2.x wont get the upgrade spazzing on them 01:07 rangi http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl;h=b51edd694cfb0f261200a6e5d11f917701517bf1;hb=9d5ab23d7c7bbbf2c83f9cddd15d730a62bb651a#l3809 01:07 rangi thats the point where they diverged 01:08 rangi worth doing? 01:08 rangi the danger i can think of, is that someone coming from early 3.3.x that hadnt upgraded in a while will miss some 01:08 gmcharlt rangi: that or have updatedatabase.pl record the original version number 01:09 rangi sorry? 01:09 gmcharlt and adjust the specific 3.3 updates to check to see if the applicable 3.2.x update was already run 01:09 rangi oh yeah thats better 01:10 rangi so set a variable before we do anything recording the number we are coming from 01:10 gmcharlt yep 01:10 rangi yeah ill do that 01:10 rangi thanks 01:15 rangi if (C4::Context->preference("Version") < TransformToNum($DBversion) && $original_version < TransformToNum("3.02.00.005")) { 01:15 rangi my brain is not working good, thats what you meant eh? 01:16 gmcharlt yes, assuming that my $original_version = TransfromToNum(C4::Context->preference('Version')); 01:16 rangi well its just C4::Context->preference 01:16 rangi without the transform 01:16 gmcharlt oh, right 01:17 rangi but yep i have that at top of the script 01:18 rangi cool yeah that seems to work, (monkeying with the version number in the db) 01:20 rangi gmcharlt++ 01:24 rangi distance from earth 01:24 rangi srsly? 01:24 rangi @marc 034 01:24 huginn rangi: The coded form of the mathematical data contained in field 255 (Mathematical Data Area) of the bibliographic record. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,m,n,p,r,s,t,x,y,z,2,6,8] 01:24 rangi mein gott 01:26 rangi now i have to find a record that uses that 01:26 rangi and it will be my new demo record 01:26 gmcharlt gotta make sure Koha is ready to support the Lunar Colony Library 01:26 rangi heh 01:33 Waylon to xen or not to xen.. that is the question.. 01:37 brendan__ not to xen is the answer 01:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating updatedatabase.pl to try to stop duplicate upgrades being run <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=00fe00c729e8fc5e53fa7c9c8073f2d60b41bc4c> 01:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #211: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/211/ 01:42 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Updating upgrade instructions 01:42 jenkins_koha Starting build 212 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:43 Waylon xen gives me online backups via its tools... or via lvm snapshots.. and restoring.. bring down vm, bring up snapshotted vm. 01:44 Waylon tar backups or lvm snapshots on bare bones system... restoration..... how/ 01:44 Waylon ? 01:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 6227: tweak release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b52bd0a88c45e63c8e4644abe6a0b2f0a2475a40> / bug 6227: adjust description of NoZebra syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd2760bd169d8b8d1184a053a9db617975081327> / bug 6227: remove search engine question from installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7382cc31584 02:09 Brooke_ kia ora! 02:09 rangi hey Brooke_ 02:09 wahanui1 Brooke_ is hearing no objections 02:09 Brooke_ :D 02:09 Brooke_ I like that one. 02:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #212: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/212/ 02:22 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Updating updatedatabase.pl to try to stop duplicate upgrades being run 02:22 jenkins_koha Starting build 213 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:35 Brooke_ 0/ 02:36 Brooke_ ye're up late. 02:39 Brooke_ 0/ 02:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6224 : Revert "3.0.x: ce353e7 bug #3674 allow users creation with disabled password" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05eb43f5fc00889420e03845b5059d80bf1663ad> 03:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #213: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/213/ 03:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 6227: remove search engine question from installer 03:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 6227: adjust description of NoZebra syspref 03:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6227 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, deprecate NoZebra for 3.4.0 03:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 6227: tweak release notes 03:01 jenkins_koha Starting build 214 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 03:26 Brooke_ 0/ 03:26 AmitG heya Brooke_ 03:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #214: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/214/ 03:41 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 6224 : Revert "3.0.x: ce353e7 bug #3674 allow users creation with disabled password" 03:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6224 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, New patrons created with an OPAC login but no password are assigned a default password 03:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3674 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, REOPENED, Creating users with empty password 03:57 kmkale Namaskar #koha 03:57 druthb Namaskar, kmkale. 03:57 space_librarian namaste kmkale. How was the trip yesterday? 03:57 kmkale hi druthb 03:58 kmkale hi space_librarian it was too much. Reached home 9pm 4hrs driving total. Outside temp was about 44 03:58 kmkale :( 03:58 space_librarian yikes! 03:58 space_librarian That's horrible. 04:03 kmkale yeh. No AC as the buildings are not completed yet :( 04:04 druthb whew 04:04 druthb that is fierce. 04:08 * space_librarian remembers 44 degrees. It was no fun. 04:13 druthb where I lived in west Texas, it routinely got above 38 in the summer, but rarely more than 41. And it was dry as a mother-in-law's kiss, not that soaking-wet humid kind of hot. 04:22 cait good morning #koha 04:23 bg heya cait 04:23 bg good evening 04:23 cait hi bg :) 04:32 druthb hi, cait. :) 04:32 cait why are you awakeẞ 04:32 cait ? 04:33 * druthb makes whining noises, and points at that ill-begotten Destiny system she's trying to convert. 04:33 cait hmpf. 04:36 kmkale hi cait 04:36 cait h ikmkale 04:47 bg night all 04:47 Oak \o 04:49 cait good night brendan 04:50 Oak good night Gallagher 05:21 cait rangi: around? 05:25 cait hmpf. that is confusing. 06:00 rangi whats confusing? 06:00 rangi on the bus on the way home 06:01 cait the version numbers and comparing 06:01 rangi oh :) 06:01 cait I am working on the itemsstocknumberidx thing 06:01 cait It's correct when you start with a 3.2.2 or 3.2.4 I have confirmed that now 06:01 rangi send the patch ill fix the numbers 06:02 cait but starting from before items.stocknumber was introduced into the db (so that it's created by the updatedatabase) gives me all kinds of database errors 06:02 rangi orly 06:02 rangi hmm 06:02 cait and one of them my stocknumber thing 06:03 cait updating from 3.2.4 also gives one about privacy 06:03 rangi I can look at when the wine wears off 06:03 rangi very good bordeaux from paul 06:03 cait was it good? 06:03 cait ah :) 06:03 rangi all the wine lovers at work thought it was great 06:04 cait I can send you the patch as far as I get with notes, would this be ok? 06:04 rangi thats fine 06:07 cait thx rangi 06:07 cait which mail? 06:07 Waylon okay! debian lenny or debian squeeze? 06:12 cait rangi: probably the if clause we constructed does not work correctly 06:13 cait hm. 06:16 alex_a bonjour #koha 06:17 rangi my catalyst one 06:17 rangi squeeze 06:18 cait bonjour alex_a 06:24 alex_a hi cait 06:28 Waylon one vote for squeeze... hmm... only one problem with it... my host doesn't have it as a os reload option... so im going to have to put a iso image in a lockbox then attach it via imdi... ah what fun new things im learning today. 07:19 fredericd rangi: Are you still working on TT parser for translation tools? 07:30 rangi nope i think between cait and I we got it working pretty well 07:30 rangi there is only one more thing I might do, and that is remove trailing whitespace 07:30 rangi but that wont be tonight 07:44 kf good morning #koha 07:55 fredericd rangi: What do you think of this case?... 07:55 fredericd In opac-user.tt, line 397, you have that: 07:55 fredericd <td> 07:55 fredericd [% IF ( RESERVE.wait ) %] 07:55 fredericd [% IF ( RESERVE.atdestination ) %] 07:55 fredericd [% IF ( RESERVE.found ) %] 07:55 fredericd Item waiting at <b> [% RESERVE.wbrname %]</b>[% IF ( RESERVE.formatted waitingdate ) %] until [% RESERVE.formattedwaitingdate %][% END %] 07:55 fredericd In OPAC .po file it becomes: 07:55 fredericd #. %1$s: IF ( RESERVE.wait ) 07:55 fredericd #. %2$s: IF ( RESERVE.atdestination ) 07:55 fredericd #. %3$s: IF ( RESERVE.found ) 07:55 fredericd #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-user.tt:397 07:55 fredericd msgid "%s %s %s Item waiting at " 07:55 fredericd msgstr "Document mis de coté à <b> %s </b>" 07:56 fredericd It's not very clear for translators. The placeholders in the string 07:56 fredericd to translate %s %s %s are not here for containing variables related to 07:56 fredericd the text to translate but to accomodate TT condition tags. There is a 07:56 fredericd risk that translator move placeholders and so break template. 07:56 rangi yep, that has always been the risk tho 07:57 rangi translators have moved, deleted placeholders in the past 07:57 fredericd Yes, but here we have placeholders for TT directives not for variables coming from Perl script 08:00 rangi yes, people will need to be careful and to test 08:00 kf fredericd: I translated an updates opac po file and agree that you have to be careful 08:00 kf but it also gives more flexibility 08:00 kf and you can see more clearly how sentences are constructed 08:00 kf before it would cut such things into pieces 08:01 kf making it hard to find out what belongs together 08:01 fredericd kf: On Pootle, German .po files are those based on HTML::Template 08:01 kf yes 08:01 kf I did it with poedit on my laptop 08:01 fredericd Are you working on them or on TT based .po files? 08:01 rangi but kf updated them all using the tt files 08:01 fredericd ok 08:01 kf I was testing the translation scripts all week 08:02 fredericd If it works I will update Pootle 08:02 fredericd with TT based strings 08:02 kf I have completed opac and foudn no problems there in testing - still can have some hidden probles 08:02 kf but nothing obvious 08:02 kf xslt and javascript translation work now 08:02 kf it's a lot more placeholders - that's right 08:03 kf and there is a minor improvement we could make: 08:03 rangi the trailing whitespace? 08:03 kf there are a lot of cases where a trailing space at the end makes the string fuzzy 08:03 kf yep 08:03 fredericd I have a translator who isn't an IT person, and she complains... 08:03 kf I think a good example are all the pulldowns with formats on the advanced search page 08:04 kf hm, I think the basic thing is: copy it over and change only the english parts 08:04 kf I can understand it - but I am not sure there is a perfect solution for that 08:05 fredericd it can work now with German and even French 08:05 kf rangi told me that with the new syntax it's hard to see if something is a real placeholder or a directive 08:05 fredericd but I don't understand why other languages translators aren't complaining more! 08:05 kf hm sorry fredericd? 08:05 kf don't know 08:05 kf and there was not a lot of testing too 08:06 fredericd I mean that in German or French you can find a sentence which has a similar syntax than the English one 08:06 kf and having no placesholders makes it harder 08:06 kf ah 08:06 fredericd it's not that easy for other languages 08:06 kf you are right probably 08:06 kf I would like to get rid of those sentences int he templates 08:06 fredericd where you need to rearrange words, variables, in the sentence 08:07 kf being constructed like <part sentence> <if else constructs> <part sentence> etc. 08:07 rangi yes, fixing the templates for that 08:07 rangi would be the right thing to do 08:07 kf there is a lot of that in the borrower accoutns page 08:07 kf but I tried it once and gave up 08:07 rangi its better to do 08:07 kf I never got all the ifs and else right again 08:07 fredericd the solution could be to modify ALL templates to explicitelly mark what has to be translated 08:07 kf I hope it will be a little easier with TT now 08:08 fredericd like _( in javascript 08:08 rangi <if> whole sentence <else> whole sentence <end> 08:08 kf rangi: right, that's much easier! 08:08 kf but developers forget about translation very easy 08:08 rangi yes 08:08 kf I can understand that - but it's still annoying :) 08:08 rangi we should pester them more 08:09 rangi if we write some tests 08:09 rangi that complain about untranslatable strings 08:09 rangi then jenkins can yell at them :) 08:09 kf hm but probably hard to write a test for that? 08:09 rangi hard, but possible 08:09 kf normally it's me yelling at them :P 08:09 fredericd a good article on the subject: https://gist.github.com/909197 08:10 rangi it is a lot easier to see with tt 08:10 kf perhaps we need a I18N qa 08:10 rangi i find the tempaltes much much easier to read 08:10 kf checking templates for translation issues 08:10 rangi because comments are comments 08:10 rangi and you can see the tags easily 08:10 kf fredericd: want me to send you my translated german opac file? 08:10 kf for testing? 08:11 fredericd kf: Isn't it on Pootle? 08:12 kf I was not brave enough for uploading it 08:12 kf if you say it's ok I can do that now 08:13 fredericd for OPAC it should work 08:13 kf I was not sure if rangi will make omre changes and didn't want to scare people by making it uncomplete again and again 08:13 fredericd I agree that for Staff it puts Pootle server on its knees 08:14 kf rangi: you think it's save to update from that file later? 08:14 kf or both of you 08:14 rangi i wont be making anymore before the release 08:16 kf oh no 08:16 kf I have deleted the mail with the file it seems :( 08:20 kf and emptied the bin... 08:22 kf ok 08:22 kf will upload it tonight and people can get it from pootle if they want 08:23 kf hmpf. 08:30 kf rangi: the messaging table still seems to be broken 08:32 kf the header is missing from the last column, the layout is a little broken and it looks like it can be edited on the summary page - but it shouldn't have the checkboxes there, only when you open it for editing 08:33 kf and insted of Advance notice it says Unknown?? 08:33 rangi opac or staff? 08:33 kf staff 08:33 * rangi hasnt been working on that, just pushed the patch from owen 08:34 kf in opac the table looks right, but there is still Unknown 08:35 rangi i doubt i am going to have time to do anything about it, but if you update the bug someone else might be able to 08:35 kf I will add screenshots 08:37 rangi hmmm 08:39 rangi in english eh? 08:39 rangi cos it showing ok for me 08:40 kf yes english 08:40 kf mah 08:40 kf you have Advance Notice there? 08:41 rangi yep 08:41 kf it must be english 08:41 rangi and the last colum is DIgest Only 08:41 kf I have deleted all other language folders 08:41 kf hm no 08:41 rangi Digests Only 08:41 kf the last colum should be Don't notify 08:41 rangi what do you see? 08:41 kf with checkboxes 08:42 kf I am in master and git pulled... 08:42 kf hm. 08:42 rangi Do not notify 08:42 rangi Days in advance Email Digests only? Do not notify 08:42 kf yes 08:43 rangi thats cut and paste from my page 08:43 kf looking for owens bug now 08:43 kf I only see that in opac 08:43 rangi i see that in both 08:43 kf in staff it's broken on the summary page 08:43 kf and I never get advance notice 08:44 rangi i bet its a scoping thing again 08:44 kf all I found was bug 5238 08:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5238 minor, P5, ---, cnighswonger, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Fatal error when saving printer profile if paper bin field is blank 08:44 kf ok, not that one 08:45 kf bug 5328 08:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5328 critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron Messaging Preferences Table Is Missing Checkboxes 08:45 rangi there was another one 08:45 rangi a 6 something one 08:45 kf events yes 08:45 kf I wonder if it's my database 08:46 kf it's quite old 08:46 kf and updated various times 08:46 kf hm 08:46 rangi b993d2d2317720370d64f7fcca2230f9164ebeef 08:46 rangi one from colin 08:46 AmitG heya rangi, kf 08:47 kf hm, commit message is about the tabs 08:47 kf I am talking about the preferences table 08:47 kf I notice that the message names in the database have changed 08:47 kf Item Due has changed to Item_due 08:48 kf aha 08:48 kf they all have underscored -but not Advance Notiv 08:48 kf Notice 08:48 kf but why? 08:48 rangi 6222 08:48 kf it's message name in message_attributes 08:48 kf bug 6222 08:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6222 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Patron messaging preferences tables does not appear when modifying patron 08:49 rangi ah yeah you cant have spaces in variable names 08:49 rangi was the one i was thinking of 08:49 rangi right the updatedatabase must be wrong 08:49 kf ok, but why was Advanced Notice not changed 08:49 rangi lemme check 08:49 kf aha 08:50 kf and the table breaks - that makes sense. it also does that when you miss to select the sample notices and transports during install 08:50 rangi yep 08:50 rangi $dbh->do("UPDATE message_attributes SET message_name = 'Advance_Notice' WHERE message_name='Advance Notice'"); 08:50 Waylon hdl, you responsive? 08:50 rangi its fixed now 08:50 hdl ? 08:50 hdl Waylon: ? 08:51 rangi what is in the db kf, Advanced 08:51 Waylon woo. cool. hdl: Koha via nginx .... how do i do it? 08:51 rangi or Advance 08:51 kf Advance 08:51 kf I added the underscore - the name shows correctly now 08:51 rangi right, so it might have been broken then fixed 08:51 rangi ill check the git blame 08:51 kf but I have stil a broken table on the summary screen - on the edit screen it works 08:52 kf yep, all edit screens look nice, but the table on the details tab is broken 08:52 kf and it should look different 08:52 hdl Waylon: rangi might be more active for that... you can create an apache vhost and use nginx as a proxy 08:52 rangi yes 08:52 kf it should be greyed out 08:52 rangi Bug 6163 : Fixing typo in updatedatabase 08:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6163 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, patron messaging form screwy in multiple places 08:53 rangi ill look 08:53 Waylon hdl: yeah.. but rangi refered me on to you, as hes .. amazingly busy getting the 3.4 out. so.. nginx and fastcgi isn't enough? need apache too? 08:53 kf aha 08:53 rangi kf: is it ok in the opac? 08:53 kf yes 08:53 kf opac has onle the edit screen 08:53 kf no preview 08:53 rangi ah right 08:54 kf so, why is my table broken. hm. 08:54 hdl Waylon: if you have fastcgi and plack install 08:54 hdl Waylon: you may use http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=blob;f=prod.psgi;h=bc6507d8c877785f86b6eb2f6ff975b1f8618e9e;hb=a633db1447d8fa4e6569d4359d42f71dc3c6cc6e 08:54 rangi hdl: i referred him to you to reinforce that you cant just switch on fastcgi and have it work, there are persitent variables and circular references in the code that need to be fixed first 08:54 kf rangi: is it greyed out for you on the details tab? 08:54 Waylon hdl: nginx, fastcgi and plack, can replace apache? 08:55 hdl Waylon: yes... But use with caution 08:55 Waylon hmm... 08:55 hdl test before getting in production. 08:55 hdl With Opac, it may work 08:56 hdl it works in fact 08:56 kf rangi: I will make a bug, add my screenshots 08:56 hdl you have to add a use feature 'switch' in opac-detail.pl 08:56 kf and you can mark it works for me ;) 08:57 rangi kf: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/messaging-preference-form.inc 08:57 rangi line 39 08:57 Waylon hdl: yup. we've just got two new servers, unused so far.. because i need to migrate the koha... thinking.. good oppertunity to optimize everything. 08:57 rangi [% IF ( messaging_preference.messaging_form_inactive ) %] 08:58 rangi can you try changing that to [% IF ( messaging_form_inactive ) %] 08:58 hdl you can launch KOHA_CONF=.... PERL5LIB=.... starman --workers 12 --port 5000 /path/to/prod.psgi 08:58 rangi if that works, i think we have fixed it 08:58 Waylon hdl: starman = nginx? 08:58 hdl And use nginx as a proxy to port 5000 + servicing static files directly 08:58 hdl nope starman comes with plack 08:58 Waylon ahh 08:59 kf ok, bug is 6229 08:59 hdl (It is an http lightweight wrapper) 08:59 kf bug 6229 08:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6229 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Patron messaging table preview broken 08:59 Waylon ahh. what needs to be altered in opac-detail? 08:59 rangi kf did you see above? 08:59 kf yep 08:59 hdl add the line "use feature 'switch';" 09:00 kf trying to do that right now :) 09:00 rangi cool thanks 09:00 Waylon hdl: huh.. what does it do? 09:00 hdl If you have given...when in it 09:01 kf hm interesting 09:01 kf the pulldown for the days of the advacne notice got greyed out 09:01 kf but not the whole table 09:01 kf perhaps there is some more 09:01 rangi yeah 09:01 hdl Waylon: it informs the perl interpreter to decode the given when structure 09:02 Waylon given when? 09:02 rangi line 56 09:02 rangi needs the same thing 09:02 rangi 74, 92 etc 09:03 kf on it 09:03 rangi all the ones with messaging_preference.messaging_form_inactive 09:03 rangi cool thanks 09:03 hdl Waylon: forget it... 09:03 wahanui1 hdl: I forgot it 09:03 kf sure 09:03 kf :) 09:03 hdl I have that in my code. 09:03 hdl It is not in the official code 09:03 Waylon ahh 09:04 Waylon just looked it up... given .. when.. is neat! 09:04 kf rangi: all greyed out now 09:04 rangi yay 09:04 kf but still the last column is slightly broken 09:06 kf [% UNLESS ( messaging_form_inactive ) %]<th>Do not notify</th>[% END %] 09:06 kf ? 09:07 rangi so it doesnt show that, except when editing 09:08 rangi line 126 09:08 rangi [% UNLESS ( messaging_preference.messaging_form_inactive ) %] 09:08 rangi needs to be fixed 09:08 rangi then that should fix the last column 09:09 Waylon ahh! nginx + fastcgi.. too much problems.. but nginx + plack, works well? 09:10 hdl Plack is working quite nice. 09:10 hdl http://cat-plack.univ-lyon3.biblibre.com/ 09:11 hdl architecture is quite specific and uses 3 different machines.... 09:11 Waylon plack works for the intranet side too? 09:12 Waylon wow, thats fast 09:14 kf bummer I missed that ne 09:14 kf and now it works! 09:15 kf patch coming up 09:15 kf rangi++ 09:16 Waylon okay.. gotta sleep. 09:16 Waylon Thankyou hdl and rangi! 09:16 Waylon rangi++ 09:16 Waylon hdl++ 09:16 Waylon nginx++ 09:17 Waylon anything else i haven't added to.... 09:17 Waylon anyway.. night all. 09:42 kf rangi: sent 09:49 kf and all becaue I wanted to test a new notcie for one of my libraries 09:53 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6229] Patron messaging table preview broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6229> 10:15 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6230] Search to hold links in result list <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6230> 11:07 kf hmpf 11:11 Brooke_ kia ora! 11:13 kf kia ora Brooke 11:13 kf *sigs* 11:13 Brooke_ :) 11:13 kf bug6212 11:13 kf bug 6212 11:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6212 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Small display problems in OPAC results 11:13 Brooke_ I hope that's missing an n and not an h 11:14 kf lol 11:14 kf no, an h 11:14 Brooke_ aww :( 11:14 Brooke_ vas is loss? 11:14 kf I think xslt doesn't work with system preferences any more 11:14 kf was ist los ;) 11:14 Brooke_ (I can always make a German happy ;) 11:15 Brooke_ (also works on Frenchies) 11:15 kf I am not quite sure yet 11:15 kf I started with: urls don't show up on result list 11:16 Brooke_ harrumph 11:17 kf why do one always discover such things when it's too late?? 11:17 Brooke_ it is never too late with regular releases :D 11:17 kf ok... too late for the big release 11:17 kf the 3.4 one 11:17 * Brooke_ thinks you need some sleep, because you've been at this too long. 11:18 kf ok 11:18 kf ok 11:18 kf definitely the system preferences 11:30 kf hi jwagnre 11:30 jwagner Hi kf 11:33 * Brooke_ turns over boxen in search of the Classification Code for Cutter... 11:34 kf ? 11:38 AmitG heya jwagner 11:43 jwagner Hi AmitG 11:44 Brooke_ hey nengard 11:44 nengard hiya 12:01 kf rangi? 12:01 wahanui1 i think rangi is going to recommend that ppl using other languages wait for 3.4.1 12:01 Brooke_ oh that is so not good enough. 12:02 kf I think chris made him forget 12:03 kf ok, it's probably too late for him 12:03 Brooke_ ^ 12:03 Brooke_ midnight + kids. 12:03 kf aha! today is not the 22nd 12:04 Brooke_ is in eNZed 12:04 kf yes 12:04 kf these holidays are disturbing -t oday feels like friday 12:04 Brooke_ odd, does here, too 12:06 kf I wonder if authorities linking works without systempreferences in xslt 12:07 Brooke_ authorities are magical beasts best looked at but not touched. 12:12 kf can someone test if linking an authority to a record works fort hem? 12:12 jwagner Question on the circ checkout page. I've had people complaining that with a barcode reader programmed to put a return after scanning, checkins accept that as if you'd clicked the submit button, but checkouts don't. Is that deliberate? 12:13 kf it should work the same for both 12:13 kf never got complaints and our scanners are usually programmed like that 12:13 jwagner So when your staff are checking out, and they scan an item, it goes ahead & completes the transaction? 12:13 kf hm, ok, one 2 of our librares use rfid, but 4 don't 12:13 kf all on 3.2.2 12:14 kf yes 12:14 jwagner OK, I'll have to dig some more. Thanks. 12:14 kf and I am digging for the next template bug 12:19 Brooke_ 0/ 12:19 oleonard Hi all 12:29 kf oleonard++ 12:29 oleonard kf++ 12:30 kf oleonard: could you take a look at the xslt system preferences? 12:30 kf I am really stuck on that :( 12:30 oleonard What's up? 12:30 kf was trying to check if it also breaks authorities linking when I raninto the next bug 12:30 oleonard Bug 6231? 12:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6231 critical, P1, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, System preferences in XSLT view broken 12:30 kf ah sorry, system preferences in xslt 12:30 kf yes - that evil bug 12:31 oleonard Sure, I'll take a look 12:31 kf thx a lot 12:31 kf I wonder if the problem is that we got rid of the items? 12:31 kf in xml 12:31 kf I am not sure how the system preferences should be passed to the xslt 12:32 gmcharlt good day 12:32 * Brooke_ smiles at gmcharlt. 12:33 kf hi gmcharlt 12:33 kf or you might know! 12:33 kf bug 6231 12:33 kf I wondered if that could be related to the recent changes for items and xxml 12:34 * gmcharlt looks 12:35 gmcharlt no, I don't think it's related to 5579 12:35 * gmcharlt looks further 12:36 Brooke_ oi! stop using your x ray vision. Bugzilla doesn't like it. 12:37 rangi i dont think its template::toolkit related either, since it doesnt use that 12:37 rangi adn a warn in C4/XSLT.pm 12:37 rangi shows them being set in the xml 12:37 kf rangi: shouldn't you sleep? 12:37 kf while I am runnign from one bug into another today? :) 12:38 kf kinda ruled templates out too - think the variable is not passed, but don't undersatnd how that works 12:38 kf not good enough 12:38 rangi [Fri Apr 22 00:39:43 2011] opac-search.pl: <items xmlns="http://www.koha-community.org/items"></items><sysprefs> 12:38 rangi [Fri Apr 22 00:39:43 2011] opac-search.pl: <syspref name="hidelostitems">0</syspref> 12:38 rangi [Fri Apr 22 00:39:43 2011] opac-search.pl: <syspref name="OPACURLOpenInNewWindow">0</syspref> 12:39 gmcharlt yep 12:39 kf ? 12:39 oleonard ? 12:39 rangi afaict nothing has changed 12:39 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6232] Can't link authorities to bibliographic record <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6232> 12:40 hdl mmmm... strange. 12:43 kf I was tempted to mark that blocker 12:43 kf I am not sure if it will break authorities too (the an number search) 12:44 kf was going to check that when I found my next bug 12:44 rangi its def not a blocker 12:45 rangi there is no data loss 12:45 kf I know... 12:45 rangi but its weird, as nothing has changed that i can tell 12:45 kf can I say for me it feels like one? 12:45 kf but you can reproduce? 12:46 rangi i cant tell, i can see all the sysprefs being set in the xml 12:46 kf I found the problem with online resources on my latpop and on my work computer 12:46 rangi can others reproduce? 12:47 kf noone was around until oleonard showed up and shortly after that it got crowded 12:47 kf rangi: where do you see them? 12:49 kf I can see nothing in my marcxml table 12:49 kf column 12:49 gmcharlt kf: the syspref values are injected into the XML when the page is rendered 12:49 rangi i put a warn in C4/XSLT.pm 12:50 kf gmcharlt: thx 12:50 kf it's easy to check: look at a record with an url and change the urlinnewwindow thing 12:50 kf or check if the link shows up in the result list 12:50 kf to reproduce I mean 12:51 rangi kf do you know when it last worked? 12:52 kf I think jareds options were probably the last to get in 12:52 kf after UseControlNumber 12:52 kf the things abut usetracings 12:52 kf I suppose it worked for the signoffer 12:52 kf but otherwise no clue 12:53 gmcharlt rangi: 5884fb100071e973daf671a4ada6b32724376768 broke it 12:53 rangi ta gmcharlt 12:53 gmcharlt the syspref names as referred to in the XSLT are case-sensitive, that patch, for whatever reason, changed the case in a couple cases 12:54 kf oh no, and I missed it 12:54 * kf grumbles 12:54 rangi ahhh 12:54 rangi phew 12:54 kf phew but still 12:54 kf I was looking at those files like forever and didn#t see it :( 12:54 rangi case ones are hard to spot 12:55 gmcharlt kf: I lend you my eyes, next time you'll lend me yours ;) 12:55 rangi right, back to sleep i go, ill push the fixed xslt patch in the morning :) 12:55 gmcharlt rangi: sleep well 12:56 kf sleep well rangi 12:56 kf and don't coe back again before morning! 12:56 gmcharlt rangi: are you writing a patch? If not, I'll do it 12:56 kf I can do 12:56 gmcharlt ok 12:56 kf let me check if I see it this time 12:57 kf hm 12:57 kf I did a git show with the commit id 12:58 kf is there a better way? lots of css stuff? 12:59 gmcharlt kf: yeah, that looks like a squashed patch, you have to page down til you get to the bit that changes the xslt 12:59 gmcharlt you can also search git.koha-community.org for that commit hash 13:00 kf I treid but got no result 13:00 kf with commit and the full commit hash? 13:02 gmcharlt hmm, looks like not 13:02 gmcharlt try this 13:02 gmcharlt http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=5884fb100071e973daf671a4ada6b32724376768 13:03 kf 4133 files changed! 13:03 * Brooke_ waves to jcamins. 13:03 kf hi jcamins 13:04 kf gmcharlt: I will write a patch 13:04 oleonard Is there a wizzyrea awake yet? 13:04 gmcharlt kf++ 13:05 gmcharlt kf: MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl was mangeld as well 13:05 gmcharlt as was MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl 13:06 kf yes, I will check all 3 files 13:07 kf UNIMARC too? 13:08 gmcharlt no, doesn't look like it 13:10 kf ok 13:19 * jcamins_away isn't here, but he's curious- what was wrong with the XSLTs? 13:19 jwagner Avaunt, spirit from the vasty deep! 13:22 gmcharlt jcamins_away: overzealous automatic script that did s/URL/url/ in a couple places 13:24 jcamins_away gmcharlt: ah. 13:24 * jcamins_away is glad he didn't do it. 13:27 Brooke_ hmph 13:27 Brooke_ community site has gone all wonky on meh 13:28 Brooke_ thought it was my connection but the other interwebs are otay 13:28 oleonard Ouch. Error establishing a database connection 13:28 Brooke_ the wiki does not seem to be busted 13:29 Brooke_ cause it let me save what I was editing 13:30 Brooke_ 0/ 13:31 kf hi sekjal 13:31 sekjal hi, kf 13:37 jcamins_away sekjal: note that the first time you create a package it takes a really long time because it has to download all the dependencies. 13:38 sekjal jcamins_away: good to know, thank you 13:38 * jcamins_away returns you to your regularly scheduled programming 13:46 wizzyrea_away :/ ec2 having troubles, which is where our website is :( 13:46 sekjal oh noes! 13:46 wizzyrea_away yep 13:47 wizzyrea_away pretty cool 13:49 kf gmcharlt: patch sent 13:53 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6231] System preferences in XSLT view broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6231> 13:53 kf oh, foudn new bug 13:54 oleonard kf, I'm seeing something weird when testing your patch for Bug 6229 13:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6229 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Patron messaging table preview broken 13:55 oleonard Oh wait, maybe not? 13:55 * oleonard checks again 13:55 kf tell me waht you see :) 13:56 kf i am in full bug fixing mode today 13:57 oleonard I guess it was a fluke. I could see the messaging table for every account but my own. 13:57 oleonard But now I see it just fine. 14:00 oleonard wizzyrea_away: I saw your link in the log http://screencast.com/t/skbpuaqFhU 14:00 oleonard I know what's going on there. Thought it was fixed. 14:00 wizzyrea_away it may be, that was the 5579 branch 14:00 wizzyrea_away i realized after I posted it 14:02 oleonard Anyway, it stems from the record being part of a series. Koha thinks (thought?) series == serial, and wants (wanted?) to show serial info under 'publication details' 14:02 wizzyrea_away ah 14:03 kf yes, that was fixed 14:03 kf maybe reappeared? 14:05 kf uhoh 14:05 kf oleonard: do you have a second? 14:05 oleonard Yes 14:05 kf ok, looking at bug 6234 14:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6234 normal, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Links on hold ratios report broken 14:06 kf that reserveratio.tt uses an include 14:06 kf biblio-default-view.inc 14:07 kf I think to fix it I need to add a scope this time - but will break the include 14:07 kf does the include even make sense now with the scoping? 14:07 kf hope my explanation makes any sense... 14:08 oleonard Yes it does 14:10 oleonard kf, I don't know what to say about that one. 14:10 oleonard I'm tempted to wait for chris to wake up and ask him if there is some kind of wizardry he can suggest 14:12 kf hm ok 14:12 kf can I reassign this one to you? 14:12 kf or make it new / add you back 14:12 oleonard I'd say make it new for now 14:13 kf ok 14:13 kf I will leave a comment 14:16 kf I wonder how often this included is used 14:17 kf often 14:17 kf http://spedr.com/2tbB7QrI 14:21 oleonard Here's my guess: 14:21 oleonard [% INCLUDE 'biblio-default-view.inc' biblionumber= reserveloo.biblionumber %] 14:21 oleonard We modify the include in each of those instances to pass the biblionumber variable to the include 14:23 kf hm ok 14:23 kf how must the include look like ? 14:23 kf ah 14:23 kf not change it? 14:23 kf let me test 14:24 oleonard I wonder why catalog/results.tt is working? 14:24 oleonard Oh, because someone already fixed it 14:24 oleonard <p>[% SEARCH_RESULT.result_number %]. 14:24 oleonard [% biblionumber = SEARCH_RESULT.biblionumber %] 14:24 oleonard [% INCLUDE 'biblio-default-view.inc' %] 14:25 oleonard kf: I'd be happy to work on this if you'd like 14:25 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6235] "Saved" message in sysprefs never gets hidden on IE8 <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6235> 14:26 kf oleonard: it's ok 14:26 kf and it works :) 14:26 kf i will do this one and go home after it 14:28 kf I wonder why the ratio is a link on that page 14:29 kf the title yes - and it works now after the change 14:29 kf but why the ratio? 14:30 oleonard Hm, that's new to me 14:31 oleonard Clicking the hold ratio number populates the "refine results" form with that number. 14:31 kf it's a <p class="ratiolimit"> 14:32 kf when I kill that, the link is gone 14:32 kf doesn't seem to break things 14:38 kf oleonard: is patron search broken again? 14:38 jcamins_away So, it looks like the Receive button's broken with T::T. 14:39 kf file a bug 14:39 kf ;) 14:39 jcamins_away I am. 14:39 kf jcamins: can you check patron search? 14:39 kf noramlly you would get all by sending an empty search 14:39 jcamins_away One moment. I don't have a VM running. 14:42 jcamins_away kf: it does seem that an empty search doesn't return any results. 14:44 kf hm that's quite a big change in behaviour 14:44 kf :( 14:45 * oleonard wasn't aware that you used to be able to search all that way 14:45 kf yep you werw 14:45 jcamins_away kf: the patron searching is entirely broken. 14:45 kf I do that all the time 14:45 jcamins_away See... 14:45 kf jcamins: was that supposed to make me feel better? 14:45 gmcharlt koha-community.org and www.koha-community.org now point to the download site until EC2 is fixed 14:45 jcamins_away bug 6127. 14:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6127 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Setting library on patron search brings back all patrons regardless of search 14:45 kf oleonard: can you look at something for me? the dashed border around the due date dates on /circ/overdue.pl 14:45 jcamins_away kf: probably not. 14:46 kf is that by intention? 14:46 kf it looks funny 14:46 oleonard kf: you could always use '%' to search all 14:46 jcamins_away oleonard: cool! I didn't know that. 14:46 kf me neither 14:46 oleonard Bug 1707 14:46 kf I use empty searches a lot 14:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1707 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED, Search for patron '%' returns all results 14:47 kf hm 14:48 kf dashed borders? 14:49 oleonard Added by Bug 6049 14:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6049 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, christophe.croullebois, NEW, Add a filter by date in overdue.pl 14:49 oleonard I agree it looks weird. 14:49 oleonard hdl: Do you know what the intention was? 14:49 kf hm 14:49 kf a guess, to show that both belong to Date due 14:50 hdl oleonard: just to show an inner box and related informations 14:51 oleonard To indicate that the two fields are grouped? 14:51 hdl oleonard: without adding some more descriptions 14:51 hdl oleonard: yes 14:51 jcamins_away @later tell nengard If you could copy the error we saw into bug 6236, I'd appreciate it. I can't duplicate on my VM. 14:51 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. 14:51 hdl oleonard: was in 3.0 as such 14:52 kf searching for tt bugs makes us more critical 14:52 hdl us ? united states ? 14:53 oleonard It makes all of us scrutinize everything for changes 14:54 kf hmpf 14:54 kf oleonard: i will leave the dashed line for now 14:54 kf new queston: I put an item into transfer to check the transferstoreceive for my master bug 14:54 hdl ah... More sensible to user interface. 14:55 kf now it shows up twice 14:55 kf can someone reproduce this? 14:58 oleonard kf: Did you use branchtransfers.pl to set the transfer? 14:59 kf yes 14:59 kf seemed easier than doing it with a hold 14:59 jcamins_away wizzyrea_away: why did you reindex NExpress? 15:00 oleonard kf: It shows up twice on transferstoreceive? 15:00 kf yes 15:00 kf I I think I know the reason perhaps: I accidently picked an item with a hold on it 15:00 oleonard I'm not seeing that 15:01 kf can' reproduce with other items 15:04 kf seems I am going crazy here 15:04 kf I was trying to get a book into my holds shelf 15:04 kf available for pickup 15:04 kf but I can return the book as often as I want, I get no slip 15:04 wizzyrea I didn't reindex nexpress, I reindexed my test server ;) 15:04 wizzyrea which is an old copy of nexpress 15:05 jcamins_away wizzyrea: ah. Yeah, it takes a while. 15:05 wizzyrea jcamins_away: does bywater have any libraries in the millions? 15:06 wizzyrea if you do, how long does an index take? 15:06 jcamins_away wizzyrea: no we do not. 15:06 jcamins_away But I'm guessing a *long* time. 15:06 kf can someone please tell me it works? 15:07 kf place hold on available book - check in book 15:07 gmcharlt wizzyrea: speaking of numbers, how long did remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl itself take? 15:07 jcamins_away wizzyrea: actually wait. We might. 15:07 wizzyrea well, to be honest I fell asleep, but it had been at least 2 hours when I went to sleep 15:07 wizzyrea and it was done when I awoke the next morning 15:08 wizzyrea so somewhere between 2 and 8 hours 15:08 jcamins_away No, no 1m+ systems. 15:08 oleonard wizzyrea's ready to publish a scientific paper with precision like that ;) 15:09 gmcharlt you could win the pole vault record with error bars that high! 15:09 gmcharlt ;) 15:09 wizzyrea I"m just being honest 15:09 wizzyrea >.> 15:09 wizzyrea you know what you should add to the script 15:09 wizzyrea an echo of the datetime when it starts 15:09 wizzyrea and same when it finishes 15:10 wizzyrea then you'd know 15:10 wizzyrea ;) 15:10 jcamins_away Or, even better, a statistical summary at the end. 15:10 gmcharlt touche 15:10 gmcharlt wizzyrea++ 15:10 wizzyrea jcamins_away++ 15:10 wizzyrea none of this piddly manual writing things down nonsense 15:10 wizzyrea only pure digital precision ;) 15:11 wizzyrea such as it is 15:11 wizzyrea though, with this aws thing today, i'm not feeling so kindly towards computers. 15:12 hdl wizzyrea time yourcommand gives you the information 15:12 hdl wizzyrea "time yourcommand" i mean 15:14 jcamins_away hdl: yeah, but do you remember to do that every time you run a script? 15:14 * wizzyrea doesn't 15:14 * jcamins_away doesn't either 15:16 hdl no But I donot want to know how much time a command take every time I launch a command... ;) 15:17 jcamins_away nengard: if you could copy the error message into that bug, it would be helpful, I think. 15:18 nengard done 15:18 kf bug 6238 15:18 jcamins_away Thanks. 15:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6238 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing 15:18 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6237] Recent changes leave compile time warnings in additem.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6237> 15:27 kf oleonard: patch sent 15:27 kf I think there are more bugs hiding, but I am the last person here at work - time to leave 15:27 kf bye all :) 15:28 oleonard Thanks kf I'll test 15:28 kf oleonard+ 15:28 kf oleonard++ even :) 15:28 kf will be back later for more bug hunting 15:28 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6234] Links on hold ratios report broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6234> 15:47 Oak \o 15:47 oleonard Hi Oak 15:48 Oak Hello oleonard :) 16:09 Brooke_ kia ora 16:09 Brooke_ @later tell kf big bang theory is funny as 16:09 huginn Brooke_: The operation succeeded. 16:10 oleonard funny as? 16:10 Brooke_ you heard me :P 16:11 wizzyrea I think that's a british/kiwi-ism 16:11 Brooke_ it ain't a britism 16:11 wizzyrea kiwi-ism then :) 16:13 * oleonard tried Big Bang Theory and didn't care for it 16:16 Brooke_ did you catch more than one episode? Cause it's kind of like dexter so far 16:16 Brooke_ the first one was not terribly bril 16:16 Brooke_ but a few in I was dyin' 16:17 oleonard I dunno, half a dozen or so 16:17 Brooke_ then you have done your duty, young man :P 16:29 * Brooke_ waves to cait 16:29 cait hi Brooke_ 16:30 * druthb waves to cait, and grins like a fool. 16:30 cait hi druthb 16:35 nengard I'm getting a 404 on the doc page; http://koha-community.org/documentation 16:35 nengard anyone else? 16:35 wizzyrea nengard 16:35 wizzyrea ec2 is down 16:35 wizzyrea which is where the website is 16:35 nengard i just read about that being down 16:35 wizzyrea so just wait 16:35 nengard didn't know we were there 16:36 nengard thanks for letting meknow 16:36 nengard me know 16:36 wizzyrea sure. It's why k-c.org redirects to download.k-c.org atm 16:36 wizzyrea if you had tried the home page you'd have seen ;) 16:38 nengard yes i did 16:38 nengard was very confused 16:38 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6168] Can't delete holds from circulation page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6168> 16:38 nengard its been down a while ... can't amazon get their act together? 16:38 wizzyrea it's a big deal, apparently 16:38 wizzyrea one of those cascading failure deals 16:39 wizzyrea you should see the AWS forums 16:39 gmcharlt the hashtag #ec2 is all a-twitter 16:39 * gmcharlt apologize profusely for that pun 16:39 wizzyrea there are techs all over totally FREAKING OUT 16:39 wizzyrea < included 16:39 wizzyrea hehe 16:39 wizzyrea puns are simultaneously the best and worst form of humor. 16:41 * oleonard suspects it happened when the millionth lolcat was posted to Reddit 16:41 nengard hehe 16:42 Brooke_ oh no you di'int blame lolcats for an outage :P 16:43 Brooke_ and the site is up, so it can't be their fault :P 16:43 wizzyrea heh, but it was down earlier 16:43 wizzyrea they probably got their EBS stuff out before it was impossible to do it 16:44 Brooke_ dez catz were sleepin 16:44 wizzyrea and brought it back up in another zone 16:44 oleonard The 500th business cat maybe? 16:45 * oleonard wanders off on a business cat tangent 16:46 Brooke_ I edited the wiki more than mah blog last release cycle. 16:46 Brooke_ Truf. 16:48 nengard hmmm hootsuite down too ... seriously do all these social sites use the same service? monopoly is bad 16:49 Brooke_ the cloud, it's not what's for dinner. 16:49 * oleonard wonders if Liblime still hosts there 16:50 wizzyrea oleonard: they do 16:51 oleonard Offline circ for them I guess. 16:51 wizzyrea their bit of aws was down earlier, but seems to be back now 16:54 Brooke_ chow 17:00 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6238] Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6238> 17:11 nengard_lunch did anyone report the bug with lists in the staff client where if you click the titles they don't go anywhere? 17:13 sekjal nengard: not sure... I didn't 17:13 nengard i'll do it - sorry if it's a dup 17:16 cait nengard: is fixed by a patch I will resubmit 17:16 cait oleonard made some comments I have to build in 17:16 nengard awesome!! 17:16 nengard and I'll sign off on it :) hehe 17:17 nengard i feel like maybe we needed to test all this TT stuff sooner .. I know it was in it's own branch, but I never did anything with it :( 17:18 library_systems_guy speaking of TT stuff, how is everybody liking using it? 17:19 cait at the moment i think we are only fixing it, not using 17:19 cait or it feels like that 17:20 cait I think the nice things will come later 17:20 library_systems_guy I know when i used it with catalyst I really liked it 17:20 cait nengard: yes, more testing before a big release like this is needed :( 17:21 library_systems_guy nengard: are you thinking of pushing back the release? 17:21 cait I think that will not happen 17:21 cait but rangi decides 17:22 oleonard The trouble with testing the TT branch was so much was broken, it was hard to get down to the small details 17:22 oleonard I think we're still a ways from finding all the problems. 17:22 cait chris hall fixed a lot of things I reported 17:23 cait we all have a lot to do - but I think we need to find a way to do more systematic testing 17:23 oleonard Oh yeah I'm not saying things weren't getting fixed 17:23 cait oleonard: going to refactor the patch - thx for the comments 17:23 oleonard Thanks for your work on it 17:23 cait yep 17:23 cait np 17:23 library_systems_guy right now is testing just somebody seeing if it works? 17:24 library_systems_guy or are there unit test available? 17:24 cait no, we have unit tests too 17:24 cait but they don't catch template problems 17:25 library_systems_guy can you do a link based parser and check the page header or are you looking for more than just if the page is there 17:25 nengard library_systems_guy, I know you think I'm awesome ... but I'm not where near as awesome as rangi and he will get the releae out on time!! :) 17:26 nengard we're looking for more than the page being there 17:26 nengard we're looking to make sure the page looks right and does what it's supposed to do 17:26 library_systems_guy heh 17:26 library_systems_guy guess that does make it challenging to test 17:26 cait library_systems_guy the little details 17:27 nengard checkboxes and mis aligned columns 17:27 cait slightly broken tables 17:27 library_systems_guy I think i've learned a lot about how much librarians pay attention to the little details since ive started working in a library 17:27 library_systems_guy can you even develop testing modules for things like that 17:28 library_systems_guy the reason I'm curious is I'm taking Software Development and this is stuff we talk about in class all the time 17:28 cait perhaps selenium 17:28 cait but I think it's quite hard to do automatic testing on this things 17:32 jcamins_away person_who_did_the_fixed_fields_editor++ 17:38 wizzyrea [off]farkle. hee. 17:40 rhcl Does ISO 2011 apply to Koha (or support companies) at all? "Conformity assessment -- Requirements for bodies providing audit and certification of management systems " 17:41 jcamins_away [off] I guess that was so that people would be laughing when they sent in complaints? 17:42 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6242] Javscript errors in label-item-search.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6242> / [Bug 6234] Links on hold ratios report broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6234> 17:48 moodaepo This needs to be updated to point to the koha-community blog > http://owu.towers.org.uk/ 17:48 cait is there something that needs work right now? 17:48 cait or just search for new bugs? 17:48 * moodaepo should probably just email 17:48 gmcharlt rhcl: do you mean ISO 17021:2011 ? 17:49 jcamins_away cait: you could sign off on the two follow-up patches to bug 5683. 17:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5683 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, REOPENED, link_bibs_to_authorities.pl can corrupt records 17:50 nengard library_systems_guy, my hubby does web qa and he has tests he runs, but he has to then visit all the pages and click all the links and try all the forms ... so there is no way (except a human) to test things thoroughly 17:50 gmcharlt rhcl: if so, doesn't seem relevant except to bodies that are themselves certification agencies 17:50 cait jcamins: really never touched that script 17:52 jcamins_away Wise. 17:53 jcamins_away It caused data corruption. 17:53 rhcl gmcharlt: yes, ack response 17:54 jcamins_away That's why we now have a test to check the behavior. 17:55 jcamins_away Follow-up patch 2. 18:16 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6235] "Saved" message in sysprefs never gets hidden on IE8 <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6235> 18:28 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6239] Merging records broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6239> 18:36 rangi morning 18:36 cait hi rangi 18:36 rangi cait: just more testing 18:36 cait hm? 18:36 oleonard Hi rangi, you can't have gotten enough sleep 18:36 rangi i can sleep tomorrow 18:37 * cait is confused 18:37 rangi 05:50 < cait> is there something that needs work right now? 18:37 rangi 05:50 < cait> or just search for new bugs? 18:37 cait oh 18:37 cait ok 18:38 library_systems_guy exit 18:38 rangi theres prolly a lot of these little issues, the more we can get found and fixed the better 18:38 library_systems_guy oops wrong window :-/ 18:38 rangi im aiming to build the tarball at 8pm, which is in 14 hours 18:38 rangi and release it at 10pm 18:39 rangi any of these little patches, im not waiting on signoff for either, will just test them here and push 18:39 rangi and I will note in the release announcement that due to the template::toolkit change we expect there will be a few more unfound gotchas 18:39 cait ok 18:40 cait 14 hours - wow 18:40 cait could be a long night :P 18:40 rangi 13.20 again :) 18:40 cait 13:20? 18:40 rangi how many hours actually 18:41 wizzyrea anybody got a bot for the countdown :P 18:42 cait I had problems with holds -wizzyrea have you worked on those perhaps? 18:42 cait or tested 18:42 wizzyrea what specifically? 18:42 wizzyrea i certainly *can* go over them again 18:43 cait on my work computer I put a hold on a on shelf item at the same branch and check-in didn't bring up anything 18:43 oleonard Wow, export/import frameworks? I didn't see that before 18:43 cait it's probably my setup - but would be happy to hear it works for you 18:43 rangi yeah its very cool 18:43 cait and I had problems ovrriding a hold 18:43 cait you know, with the override syspref activated, I got the confirmation window but couldn't place it 18:45 wizzyrea k ii'll check that 18:45 cait thx a lot 18:47 wizzyrea rangi, master has 5579 in it now, correct? 18:47 cait oleonard: good catch! 18:47 cait the fast add thing :) 18:48 oleonard I was looking for more instances of the same bug that cased the problem with the merge records page 18:48 * chris_n cheers rangi on 18:48 oleonard I wouldn't have noticed that the link was missing just by looking at it 18:49 rangi man im glad git.k-c isnt in amazon 18:49 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6243] Link to fast cataloging missing from circulation home page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6243> 18:49 rangi wizzyrea: yes it is 18:49 wizzyrea ty 18:49 wizzyrea wanted to make sure I didn't have to switch DB"s and reindex 18:49 wizzyrea not time for that, really 18:49 * oleonard has been learning from rangi's patches 18:50 wizzyrea cait, I got a box 18:50 wizzyrea for holds 18:50 cait yay 18:50 wizzyrea on an on-shelf item 18:50 cait wonder what's wrong with my settings 18:50 cait but feeling better about that now! 18:50 wizzyrea AllowOnShelfHolds on? 18:50 cait yep 18:50 wizzyrea or off? 18:50 cait on 18:50 wizzyrea hm 18:51 cait it's my computer at work - so I think we can't really track it down 18:51 cait the other thing was on this computer - the override holds 18:51 cait the button wouldn't work 18:51 cait I am resetting my database here to get back to a clean state right now 18:51 wizzyrea what are you trying to override? 18:51 cait hm, I think it was a ref item 18:51 wizzyrea check out a book over a hold 18:51 wizzyrea ? 18:51 cait no place a hold on a item not for loan 18:52 cait something like htat 18:52 wizzyrea hmm ok 18:52 cait where you get the yellow warnings in the holds screen 18:52 wizzyrea k 18:52 wizzyrea i'll check 18:52 cait and it asks normally not ... you really want to? 18:53 wizzyrea specific item hold? 18:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6229: Message preferences on patron details tab broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3205d768fe83f09bb4c81c0175557e753bc78b1> 18:53 cait hm yes 18:53 wizzyrea k 18:53 wizzyrea well, it won't even let me pick that 18:53 wizzyrea let me check my settings 18:53 cait search for override 18:53 cait there is one for holds 18:53 wizzyrea k 18:54 wizzyrea got it 18:54 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/0VLmyD72tNh 18:54 wizzyrea seems odd it'd say "undefined" 18:54 wizzyrea but it did let me do it 18:55 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/0VLmyD72tNh 18:55 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/BOPhepiNCNZ 18:55 wizzyrea sorry 2nd 18:55 wizzyrea paste happy 18:58 cait ad after ok the hold was placed? 18:58 cait because it didn't do it forme 18:58 cait I came back to the holds screen 18:59 cait to the items list with no hold placed 18:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 215 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:59 cait ah ok... 2nd screen 18:59 cait hm 19:02 wizzyrea seems odd that you'd be having trouble 19:03 cait no idea what happened 19:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6239, Merging records broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0eaa391aa782ffe1ac469a0f624e62faf64c9919> / Fix for bug 6243 - Link to fast cataloging missing from circulation home page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=514a60270cc27a555f0587ef6211aabdba9a8cad> / Bug 6230: Search to hold links on titles in result list were missing <http://git.koha-comm 19:05 cait but happy it's me and not a bug :) 19:07 wizzyrea well... 19:07 wizzyrea me too 19:07 wizzyrea but 19:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Revert "3.0.x: ce353e7 bug #3674 allow users creation with disabled password" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbb2ba492350073869cebaf75e7e972053d50a0c> 19:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 22 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6234: Fixing missing biblionumber for links using biblio-default-view.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=93a18939e8753b578b97cc122010e57a995ae590> 19:14 wizzyrea ihow do you have your system set up? 19:14 * wizzyrea really wishes for a quick display of sysprefs 19:14 wizzyrea the biggies like 19:14 wizzyrea INDY branches IS ON 19:14 cait ind branches off i think 19:15 cait the database is gone now :( 19:15 wizzyrea ah sok 19:15 wizzyrea so 19:15 wizzyrea practicaly question 19:15 wizzyrea practical* 19:15 wizzyrea how do you guys manage your test DB's? 19:15 wizzyrea fresh one for every load? 19:15 wizzyrea every update you're testing? 19:16 cait hm for database updates I dump my database before testing 19:16 cait and restore after testing 19:16 wizzyrea hm interesting 19:16 wizzyrea I use a pretty big DB for my test server 19:16 cait rangi showed me how to do that at kohacon :) 19:16 cait ah, no I have a pretty empty one 19:16 wizzyrea i'm still kicking myself for missing that. 19:17 cait hm? 19:17 wizzyrea I missed the git class :( 19:17 cait oh 19:17 cait where were you? 19:19 * cait sends wizzyrea some cookies 19:19 oleonard She was probably with her family or some nonsense like that ;) 19:19 wizzyrea working on something else 19:20 wizzyrea ha, no, actually 19:20 chris_n for those who like their privacy: http://selectout.org/ 19:20 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6244] Javascript error on circulation home page <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6244> 19:21 wizzyrea chris_n: thanks, that's interesting 19:22 chris_n yeah, you just have to keep clicking... its amazing how many tracking cookies one attracts in a very short period 19:24 wizzyrea oy 19:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6232: Impossible to link authorities to bibliographic records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ecf4bb9a51d72ce1e871d23432daf1effa5d17f1> / Bug 6231: some system preferences in XSLT broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=224f382c7a1669c4fc8b297abaae5f499f889659> / Fix for Bug 6238 - Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing <http://git.koha-community.org/ 19:25 wizzyrea i had like 40something 19:25 wizzyrea ashamed. 19:29 * chris_n had >47 :-D 19:30 wizzyrea hmm 19:31 * oleonard has Firefox configured to clear most cookies when Firefox closes 19:31 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6240] edit subscription loses bib link <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6240> 19:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6236 : When checking for expiry don't try to process 0 dates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a56ada2f144f8212c5212d19ab886b7702d075c> / Bug 6237: remove compile time warning <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d663c7e8aae16a1b12c03af20b152b186829abf> / Bug 6237: Remove redeclarations of global vars in same scope <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha 19:35 nengard wow, i did good ... I had 13 19:36 wizzyrea I think you can never get below 13 19:39 nengard well it is a new computer after all :) hehe 19:40 oleonard Does the message_queue table not actually store email addresses? 19:40 nengard um ... isn't that in the borrowers table? 19:41 oleonard There are columns in the message_queue table for "to_address" and "from_address," but in my test system they're empty 19:41 rangi oleonard: nope, they get pulled out when the mail is sent 19:41 rangi confused me to 19:41 oleonard Okay, I figured that might be the case 19:42 cait some end up there, but only very few 19:42 cait not sure which (speaking about email addresses) 19:42 rangi i think hold notices, and checkin/checkouts do 19:42 rangi overdues dont 19:42 rangi its something like that 19:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6240 : pass a hash to template not a scalar <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01ccaf84e5dfc71e13a4a0d12ba422621909b953> / Follow-up fix for Bug 6168, Can't delete holds from circulation page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e33a071f0b72995c59d3f047d7161ce0b501453> 19:45 cait hm 19:45 cait when I oder from z39.50 and try to save i get an error about lost basket number 19:47 rangi sounds like a scope thing again 19:48 cait yup 19:48 cait think I found it - I searched on the neworderempty but i think its the result list 19:48 cait :) 19:48 rangi cool 19:50 SteveJ What is the IE browser compatability for the latest stable? 7+? 19:50 rangi for the opac, or the staff side? 19:50 SteveJ Didn't know there was a difference, so lets say both 19:51 rangi well we strive to make the opac work in everything 19:52 SteveJ I found out that people are running everything from 6-8 at my office, and want to make sure that would not cause problems (both on the staff and opac sides). 19:52 rangi im less motivated to care about supporting old ie in the staff side, but i think 7+ for that 19:52 rangi i wouldnt ever run 6 for anything anywhere ever 19:52 rangi even microsoft tell you not to 19:52 rangi its pretty much guaranteed to have some javascript issues somewhere on the staff side 19:52 wizzyrea I would probably agree with rangi: you need to work towards eliminating 6 19:53 wizzyrea at the very least :) 19:53 SteveJ Oh I know it is an issue, but it is not something I have any control over:) 19:53 * oleonard agrees as well. And why not get rid of 7 too? 19:53 wizzyrea 7 was a dog :P 19:53 SteveJ I would suggest getting rid of IE altogether, heh 19:53 nengard perfect 19:53 rangi SteveJ: there will be issues with 6 and staff 19:53 wizzyrea :) well that would be ideal 19:53 gmcharlt at least the official desupport of IE6 means that entities that care about such things *have* to do something 19:53 gmcharlt at least, considering the way such policies run 19:54 rangi yep 19:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6244, Javascript error on circulation home page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=87792339487dfc6464df2ac8dd79b50ebb4281ab> 19:57 SteveJ Is anyone planning a get together at SLA in June? I searched the official schedule but did not see anything. 19:59 rangi nengard will be there im sure 20:01 nengard I'll be presenting 20:01 nengard not attending ... but i can be around specific times 20:04 rangi nengard: bug 6241, just the staff side or the opac too? 20:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6241 critical, P5, ---, chris, NEW, links on lists missing bib number 20:04 nengard just the staff 20:04 nengard i think 20:04 nengard hang on 20:04 nengard cait fixed it though 20:04 nengard one of her patches did the trick 20:05 cait yep 20:05 nengard yeah - just tested and it works in staff and opac 20:05 cait the include file caused lots of problems 20:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #215: SUCCESS in 1 h 6 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/215/ 20:05 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6229: Message preferences on patron details tab broken 20:05 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6230: Search to hold links on titles in result list were missing 20:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6229 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Patron messaging table preview broken 20:05 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for bug 6243 - Link to fast cataloging missing from circulation home page 20:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6230 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Search to hold links in result list 20:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6243 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Link to fast cataloging missing from circulation home page 20:06 jenkins_koha Starting build 216 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:06 cait sending one for acq now 20:07 cait bug 6245 20:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6245 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Can't oder from Z39.50 in acquisitions 20:07 gamambel hi 20:07 wahanui what's up, gamambel 20:07 gamambel nice team you got here! 20:08 gamambel i'm looking for an OPAC i can use for communities, and things can be returned to any of the community members 20:08 gamambel and i can use the website to locate the object 20:08 rangi nengard: so i can mark that bug resolved fixed? 20:08 wizzyrea Koha can do that 20:08 nengard yes 20:08 rangi thank 20:08 rangi s 20:09 gamambel wizzyrea: cool that's what i wanted to hear 20:09 gamambel anything specific i should look into? 20:09 gamambel i want communities to be able to register and create their own "library-of-trust" 20:09 gamambel and to have "overlapping" communities 20:09 rangi that would need development work 20:10 gamambel like, if i am part of 3 communities, my stuff can be returned to any of the three communitiesw 20:10 gamambel yeah i know 20:10 wizzyrea yea, that would require work 20:10 gamambel i'm looking for the best suitable base system to start with 20:10 wizzyrea that would be like the sysgroups 20:10 rangi yeah, that concept doesnt really exist, you can only belong to one 'branch' currently 20:10 wizzyrea thing we thought we'd get back a few years ago 20:10 gamambel but koha would be a good base? 20:11 gmcharlt gamambel: would these communities fall into a hierarchy? 20:11 gamambel no 20:11 gamambel more like "friends" 20:11 gamambel like a facebook for books 20:11 wizzyrea yea, I think so, it definitely does your base requirements of letting you circulate items and return them at branches other than their homes 20:11 wizzyrea you mean the libraries are "friends" 20:11 gamambel yes 20:12 wizzyrea not individual items 20:12 gmcharlt gamambel: it would be fairly radical, but yes, you could build what you want into Koha 20:12 gamambel i mean, everyone is a library, right? 20:12 gamambel in some sense we all have items 20:12 gamambel ;) 20:12 wizzyrea have you looked into librarything at all? 20:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6245] Can't oder from Z39.50 in acquisitions <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6245> 20:12 gmcharlt or goodreads? 20:13 gamambel yeah i know librarything and goodreads 20:13 gamambel i am a member at librarything 20:13 gamambel but it does not have the "i can return the item to any of his friends", does it? 20:13 gamambel and a searchable OPAC for my friends 20:13 rangi judging by his hostmask, librarythings privacy policy is probably not up to scratch for this sort of thing :) 20:13 gamambel hehe right that too 20:13 gamambel ideally it would be a distributed system like statusNet 20:13 gamambel but i think that is too complicated 20:14 gmcharlt gamambel: in this system, how much do you care if a book doesn't get returned at all? 20:14 gamambel basically i don't as long as it is in some catalog 20:14 gamambel like bookcrossing in some sort, but more friend-to-friend 20:14 gamambel i don't want the book to circulate outside of the circle too much, but as long as it returns to the circle of my friends some time i am fine 20:15 wizzyrea that's an interesting idea, but koha isn't really designed for *that* 20:15 gmcharlt bookmooch for tightly-knit groups, then? 20:15 gamambel i guess none of the existing OPACs is :( 20:15 gamambel bookmooch? never heard of that 20:15 rangi cait: testing 6245 patch now 20:15 cait cool :) 20:15 cait working on bug 6246 now 20:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6246 critical, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Acq: basket table broken 20:16 gamambel any things i should look into other than koha then? 20:16 oleonard I tried bookmooch a while ago and got frustrated with the terrible interface 20:17 gamambel is it open source? 20:17 gamambel looks ugly 20:17 gmcharlt gamambel: not open source, purely a service 20:18 gamambel also it is not quite the thing i am looking for 20:18 cait hah! 20:18 wizzyrea but bookmooch doesn't "Circulate" per se 20:18 wizzyrea you're not lending, you're giving 20:18 gamambel right 20:18 wizzyrea if I"m understanding 20:18 gmcharlt right 20:18 wizzyrea you're wanting a kind of social network for lending between friends 20:18 gamambel for circulating items, yes 20:18 wizzyrea hmm 20:18 gmcharlt but if I'm undersating gamambel correctly, it's not necessarily "lending" per se as a library would understand it 20:19 gmcharlt more like book routing 20:19 gamambel i currently write down the name of the friend who i gave items to 20:19 gamambel and if i need it back i call the person 20:19 gamambel something like that, but scalable 20:19 gamambel it's sort of a library in that my items can be returned to any of my friends 20:19 gamambel but not necessarily only distributed between my friends 20:20 wizzyrea well, lending as in "I'm giving you this book (checking it out), and you can return it to matt, dick, harry, or any of my other listed friends. Then they will return it to me" 20:20 rangi cait: hah? 20:20 cait found the problem :) 20:20 gamambel i don't care where the item was in between, i want to make sure i can get it back (or tell people where it is to get it) 20:20 gamambel wizzyrea: they don't have to return it to me 20:20 gamambel they can keep it, as long as the system knows it is there 20:20 wizzyrea Ah 20:21 gamambel "owner: gamambel, location: <currently lended>, return to: wizzrea, rangi, cait, gamambel" 20:21 gamambel "owner: gamambel, location: wizzrea, available" 20:21 wizzyrea something like that? 20:21 rangi cait: yay! 20:21 gamambel yes 20:22 gamambel can i put this discussion on my website to explain what i'm looking for? :) 20:22 rangi gamambel: yep, this is publicly logged 20:22 wizzyrea fine by me 20:23 jcamins_away logs? 20:23 wahanui logs are down 20:23 jcamins_away Well, that wasn't too helpful, wahanui. 20:23 wahanui jcamins_away: excuse me? 20:23 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-04-21#i_649627 20:23 jcamins_away wahanui: forget logs 20:23 wahanui jcamins_away: I forgot logs 20:23 jcamins_away logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/ 20:23 jcamins_away logs? 20:23 wahanui logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/ 20:24 jcamins_away :) 20:24 gamambel http://www.headstrong.de/projects/opac 20:25 cait bug 6246 ready for testing 20:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Acq: basket table broken 20:25 rangi yay 20:25 rangi cait++ 20:26 druthb cait++ 20:26 gamambel i gotta go now, thanks wizzyrea 20:26 druthb wahanui: druthb? 20:26 wahanui you are probably one fine number in a skirt. 20:26 * druthb blushes. 20:26 gamambel if anyone has some input on my distributed opac idea, feel free to contact me :) 20:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6245: Can't order from z39.50 search in acq <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74f6bd4f88d64bacfdf49ffa4a17fef4ecec01e0> 20:26 druthb Brooke_ has been here, clearly. 20:27 wizzyrea yw, good luck on the project :) 20:27 rangi gamambel: have you seen libravatar ? 20:27 gamambel wizzyrea: if you look at the list of my "projects", it won't be anytime soon i guess :) 20:27 rangi http://www.libravatar.org/ 20:27 gamambel rangi: avatar? 20:27 gamambel like gravatar? 20:27 wizzyrea hee 20:27 rangi factor adding support for that in to your opac 20:28 rangi like gravatar but distributed and libre 20:28 gamambel will add it to the log :) 20:28 druthb wahanui: Brooke_? 20:28 wahanui well, Brooke_ is hearing no objections 20:28 * druthb thinks. 20:28 rangi wizzyrea: one of francois' pieces of software 20:29 wizzyrea francois++ 20:29 druthb wahanui: forget Brooke_ 20:29 wahanui druthb: I forgot brooke_ 20:29 wizzyrea gamambel: certainly there are parts of koha you could use for that project 20:30 wizzyrea cataloging, for one 20:30 druthb wanahnui: Brooke_ is the best dinner companion a girl could want. 20:30 SteveJ druthb, I am back. 20:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.2.x build #22: SUCCESS in 1 h 16 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/22/ 20:30 jenkins_koha Chris Nighswonger: Revert "3.0.x: ce353e7 bug #3674 allow users creation with disabled password" 20:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3674 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, REOPENED, Creating users with empty password 20:31 druthb SteveJ: ...k Calling now. 20:31 rangi cait: works perfectly 20:32 cait :) 20:33 cait next is bug 6247 - patch coming 20:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6247 critical, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: oder from existing record broken 20:35 rangi http://kohakenya.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/goethe-institut-workshop-to-feature-koha/ 20:36 rangi http://kohakenya.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/goethe-institut-workshop-to-feature-koha/ 20:36 rangi pretty cool 20:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6246: Modify/Delete links were missing from basket lines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=caf4c4b37e9d954d845fd876ac0d4ed0b567a97a> 20:43 cait interesting! 20:43 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6247] Acq: oder from existing record broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6247> 20:43 cait the goethe institutes are participating in our union catalog 20:43 cait not sure about this one 20:46 rangi cait++ # another perfect fix 20:46 wizzyrea cait is on FIRE 20:46 * cait blushes 20:46 cait and yes they are in our union catalog: http://swb.bsz-bw.de/DB=2.308/SET=2/PRS=HOL/SHW?FRST=1&HILN=888 20:47 rangi oh very cool 20:47 rangi cait: you should go do some consulting for them :-) 20:47 cait hehe 20:48 cait one of my coworkers got to do training in greece and new york for the goethe institutes 20:50 cait not sure what ils they have 20:51 rangi well lots of libraries in kenya run koha 20:52 cait think they might have a local expert :) 20:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6247: Acq: order already existing record broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e87ba24b632f8532159cae6e2e36edf0e63dca8> 20:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #216: SUCCESS in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/216/ 20:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6239, Merging records broken 20:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6234: Fixing missing biblionumber for links using biblio-default-view.inc 20:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6239 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Merging records broken 20:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6238 - Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing 20:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6231: some system preferences in XSLT broken 20:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6232: Impossible to link authorities to bibliographic records 20:58 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6237: Remove redeclarations of global vars in same scope 20:59 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6237: remove compile time warning 20:59 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6236 : When checking for expiry don't try to process 0 dates 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6234 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Links on hold ratios report broken 20:59 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6168, Can't delete holds from circulation page 20:59 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6240 : pass a hash to template not a scalar 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6238 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Checkboxes in staff's list view are missing 20:59 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6244, Javascript error on circulation home page 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6231 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, System preferences in XSLT view broken 20:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 217 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6232 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Can't link authorities to bibliographic record 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6237 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Recent changes leave compile time warnings in additem.pl 20:59 wizzyrea botfight! 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6236 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, cannot receive serials 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6168 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Can't delete holds from circulation page 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6240 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, edit subscription loses bib link 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6244 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Javascript error on circulation home page 21:01 rangi heh 21:09 cait sometimes they can be really loud! 21:09 cait bug 6248 done 21:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6248 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: order from staged marc file broken 21:12 * rangi has been circulating and cataloguing items, which seems all good, so thank you for running through acquisitions 21:15 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6248] Acq: order from staged marc file broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6248> 21:15 cait looking at lateorders now 21:15 wizzyrea I ran through several reserves earlier 21:15 wizzyrea with all sorts of mistreatment, and they seemed good 21:15 cait I did circulation reports and staged marc import 21:16 cait tools and reports someone? 21:16 wizzyrea tools... I can run through tools 21:16 rangi i did reports 21:16 rangi but tools would be good 21:16 rangi thanks wizzyrea 21:16 cait I wonder if 0 days ago should bring up my orders 21:17 cait but I always get 0 results 21:17 cait and the supplier pull down is empty 21:19 rangi ive never used lateorders 21:21 cait I thin it works in 3.2.2 21:23 wizzyrea hey, anybody have a patron CSV they can shoot me? 21:24 cait perhaps 21:25 bencahill hey guys, can I (semi-)easily make the opac fit into my own website layout? (I can do any css, just don't do perl) 21:25 cait wizzyra: I have one with 21 patrons 21:25 cait but you would have to change categorytype, branchcode and perhaps dateformats 21:26 wizzyrea that's ok 21:26 wizzyrea :) 21:26 cait email? 21:26 wahanui email is weird 21:26 wizzyrea lrea@nekls.org 21:26 cait wahanui forget email 21:26 wahanui cait: I forgot email 21:27 cait sent 21:27 wizzyrea ty ty 21:28 cait bencahill: you can do a lot with koha + css 21:29 cait bencahill: owen's blog is a good starting point 21:29 bencahill cait: I suppose just play around? 21:29 bencahill cait: owen's blog? 21:29 wahanui hmmm... owen's blog is a good starting point 21:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6248: Acq: order from staged marc file broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7ea2ca4a3cf3b6a32b439ce814c126cb07a6bfa> 21:29 cait I hoped wahanui knows the url 21:30 wizzyrea acpl koha blog usually gets it 21:30 cait owen's blog is http://www.myacpl.org/koha/ 21:32 bencahill hmm, will the website be up soon? 21:32 wizzyrea ask amazon :P 21:32 bencahill lol 21:38 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #217: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/217/ 21:38 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6245: Can't order from z39.50 search in acq 21:38 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6246: Modify/Delete links were missing from basket lines 21:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6245 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Can't oder from Z39.50 in acquisitions 21:38 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6247: Acq: order already existing record broken 21:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Acq: basket table broken 21:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6247 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: oder from existing record broken 21:38 jenkins_koha Starting build 218 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:46 druthb cait++ 21:46 * cait hides 21:51 wizzyrea bless you cait 21:51 wizzyrea cait++ for the csv 21:52 * cait hides behind druthb 21:53 * druthb turns and points at cait. LOOK, EVERYONE! 21:53 druthb cait++ 21:53 druthb no hiding, cait! 21:54 wizzyrea phew, patron import = working 21:54 pastebot0 "rangi" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "Can I get a proofread/suggestions please" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/22 21:54 rangi yay 21:55 druthb that looks good, rangi. 21:56 cait sent 6249 21:56 cait and looks good :) 21:56 rangi thanks cait 21:56 cait seems like every template has a problem in acq 21:56 cait spotted next on uncertain prices 21:57 wizzyrea 1s, I have some wording for you 21:57 wizzyrea :) 21:57 rangi cait: yeah, acq does seem to be by far the most problematic 22:01 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6249] Acq: Can't order from suggestions <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6249> 22:04 pastebot0 "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "revision :)" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/23 22:04 wizzyrea there should be a comma after features 22:05 cait sent 6250 for uncertain prices 22:09 rangi ta 22:09 wizzyrea *nod* 22:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6249: Can't order accepted suggestions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4770c531af37bdb2b5e14f492e5b7c0366d09ada> 22:11 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6250] Acq: Link to order in uncertain prices list broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6250> 22:12 rangi jcamins_away: you still away? 22:14 cait hm the pagination on parcel is broken, - it's missing the supplier id 22:14 cait 1 2 next - next is ok, 2 not 22:14 wizzyrea ok peeps, gotta go but will def be back 22:15 rangi im sure there was a bug fixed to do with zebra passwing back xml 22:15 cait bye wizzyrea :) 22:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #218: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/218/ 22:18 jenkins_koha Katrin Fischer: Bug 6248: Acq: order from staged marc file broken 22:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6248 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: order from staged marc file broken 22:18 jenkins_koha Starting build 219 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6250: Link to order in uncertain prices list broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e7ecd4fd1c8bd2361427d3bcaa8f2247732a666> 22:47 cait bug 6251 sent 22:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6251 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: Some problems with receiving orders 22:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6251] Acq: Some problems with receiving orders <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6251> 22:48 rangi cool 22:48 rangi you shouldn't stay up too late cait 22:48 cait it's ok 22:48 rangi i really appreciate your work 22:48 cait found the next on histsearch 22:49 cait should have done that earlier 22:49 rangi yeah i should have merged in the TT stuff sooner 22:49 rangi seems that is the best way to get it tested 22:49 cait I will go when concentration is gone 22:50 wizzyrea_away cait: drink plenty of water :) 22:50 cait jasmine tea :) 22:50 wizzyrea_away ooo even better 22:51 cait tomorrow is holiday, no problem staying up a bit longer 22:52 rangi today is holiday here 22:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6251: Acq: receiving orders <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=300a87a94c5177e2c09c2f89383df0faffd508f7> 22:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #219: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/219/ 22:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6249: Can't order accepted suggestions 22:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6250: Link to order in uncertain prices list broken 22:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6249 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: Can't order from suggestions 22:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6250 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: Link to order in uncertain prices list broken 22:58 wizzyrea_away of course, you should take extra time off because this is technically work 22:58 jenkins_koha Starting build 220 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:59 cait oh! 23:00 cait the budget table is missing 23:00 rangi in the db? 23:01 cait no on acq home 23:01 rangi phew 23:02 cait I am template testing - don't assume the worst :) 23:02 cait hm I have budget, I have funds... I want my table! 23:02 rangi the whole table isnt showing? 23:03 * rangi needs to get somethign to eat be back in a sec 23:04 cait no 23:04 cait um yes, the whole table is not showing 23:08 cait hm 23:10 cait this is strange 23:10 cait I can't edit funds - but i was able to earlier today 23:20 cait hm 23:22 cait now it shows 23:22 cait weird 23:25 cait that was weird, but it's all working now 23:25 bg heya cait 23:25 cait hi bg :) 23:26 bg @wunder 93109 23:26 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.8�C (4:27 PM PDT on April 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect until midnight tonight... 23:26 bg you should all come to sunny Santa Barbara for the release of 3.4 23:26 cait @wunder Konstanz 23:26 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.9�C (1:25 AM CEST on April 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady). 23:26 wizzyrea_away @wunder 66049 23:26 rangi @wunder wellington nz 23:26 huginn wizzyrea_away: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 13.6�C (6:28 PM CDT on April 21, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). 23:26 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (10:00 AM NZST on April 22, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 23:26 bg we can pop some champagne to honor Elizabeth and 3.4 ;) 23:26 cait I think we had similar temperatures here today :) 23:27 rangi i drank some bordeaux last night 23:27 cait hm jasmine tea probably doesn't count? 23:27 rangi not unless you put whisky in it 23:28 bg or rum ;) 23:28 bg hot toddy 23:30 wizzyrea_away oo 23:30 bg so what's the count down look like now - less than 10 hours to the release? 23:30 cait hm, thinking about it - the only alchol I have is egg liqueur I use for baking - and I don't think that will complement the tea very well 23:30 bg probably not cait 23:31 cait rangi: I am done with acq - quite sure I missed some things, but can't find them 23:32 bg rangi I preferred usecontrolnumber syspref allows you to like the 78X fields to 23:32 rangi cait: if you tested, im doubt you missed much :) can you say this, you are very leistungsfähig ? 23:33 rangi bg: hehe yeah it was pretty funny :) 23:33 rangi i like 789 23:33 bg yeah - that totally worked for me :) 23:33 cait ? 23:33 rangi effizient 23:33 bg cait - the last thing chris just pushed 23:33 rangi tüchtig 23:34 cait hm not sure I am leistungsfähig 23:34 rangi Sie sind sehr effizient 23:34 cait hmpf :) 23:34 rangi ? 23:35 cait I think all mean basically the same 23:35 rangi apparently hmpf in german is hmpf 23:35 * rangi is playing with google translate 23:36 rangi speaking of translate, people figure out the proverb at the bottom of the release notes? 23:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #220: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/220/ 23:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing typo in the release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8003a1343d0fa978df6d7f43ef9ede16adee769b> 23:37 jenkins_koha Katrin Fischer: Bug 6251: Acq: receiving orders 23:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6251 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Acq: Some problems with receiving orders 23:37 jenkins_koha Starting build 221 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:37 rangi Ehara taku toa i te toa takitahi, engari he toa takitini 23:38 bg ah I think you told me once - but I'm drawing a blank 23:38 bg I know this one --> Haere. MÅu tai ata; mÅku tai ahiahi 23:39 rangi this feat is not the feat of one, but the feat of many 23:39 cait too bad google doesn't translate maori 23:39 bg ah yeah now I remember 23:42 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwG7ACsFWtU 23:42 rangi at the 34 second mark 23:42 rangi you can hear how you chant it :) 23:45 rangi (at 2 mins too) 23:46 wizzyrea_away i'm tempted to make them chant it at kudoscon :P 23:47 rangi heh 23:50 rangi the ambulance staff here use that as their haka 23:51 cait hm 23:52 cait there are 2 places where I would expect a vendor's list but get an empty pull down 23:52 cait late orders and serials claims 23:53 rangi hmm 23:53 cait I only have one vendor 23:54 cait it's active and has a name 23:54 rangi and its not in the list? 23:54 cait no 23:54 cait both pull downs are empty 23:54 cait which breaks the whole thing 23:54 cait because you can't do a 'search all' in both reports 23:54 rangi right 23:54 cait you have to choose a vendor 23:54 rangi yep 23:54 rangi can you checkout html_template_pro 23:54 cait could you check if you see the same? 23:54 rangi and see if they come back 23:55 rangi if so, we know its a TT problem 23:55 rangi if not, we have to dig deeper 23:55 cait ah 23:55 cait ok 23:57 cait ok, both are still empty 23:58 rangi right well then its a deeper issue, checking now 23:58 cait hm or a problem with my data? 23:59 rangi yep thats why im checking 23:59 cait aha, I cen submit late orders with 0 days ago 23:59 cait s/cen/can 23:59 cait after midnight now:) 23:59 cait but the list is still empty