Time Nick Message 23:55 space_librarian rangi ++ 23:53 rangi but after that, instructions, then 6227 23:53 rangi before my arms fuse or something :) 23:52 rangi well first i must get out of this seat and walk to get a coffee 23:52 * rangi edits the upgrade instructions to reflect that 23:49 gmcharlt yay! 23:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/enh/bug_5579' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4d6ad26dc40b2f10c8cdd9d546f60cebfbd4b22> / Bug 6215 : Fixing a bug with virtuallists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c58c6c219c196f1a8b2f5d3bb85db6bd9ccb9500> / bug 5579: tweaks to bulkmarcimport.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce849240ad67131ead 23:44 jenkins_koha Starting build 209 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6212 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Small display problems in OPAC results 23:39 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 6212 : Fix for tags label showing with no tags 23:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #208: SUCCESS in 1 h 12 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/208/ 23:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6211 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, SubscriptionHistory doesn't have default value set 23:29 jenkins_koha Colin Campbell: Bug 6211: Set default correctly for SubscriptionHistory syspref 23:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.2.x build #21: SUCCESS in 1 h 15 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/21/ 23:19 space_librarian via @TheLib http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/04/20/funny-pictures-you-have-some-overdue/ (apologies for the lolcats) 22:51 cait bye all - time to get some sleep here :) 22:51 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6228] Show active currency in system preferences <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6228> 22:42 cait I think not 22:40 eythian not that I'm aware, but I don't know for sure. 22:40 Brooke_ have such fields come into fruition? 22:40 Brooke_ Nicole says that future developments will include additional keyword assigned fields 22:39 Brooke_ and 22:39 Brooke_ okie dokie 22:39 eythian Brooke_: I would expect it has to match the database field name, assuming I'm thinking of the same place you're meaning 22:39 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6227] deprecate NoZebra for 3.4.0 <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6227> 22:38 Brooke_ the field name for MARC mapping -- does it have to be the actual proper field name, or can it be abbreviated at one's own risk? 22:37 Brooke_ dumb question 22:37 tcohen gmcharlt++ (nzebra) 22:36 rangi thank you 22:35 gmcharlt rangi: ok, patch for 6227 submitted 22:31 * space_librarian is honoured and humbled. 22:31 * Brooke_ formally appoints space_librarian wingman. 22:31 Brooke_ space_librarian++ for lovin' the ladies. 22:31 * space_librarian may have already had too much chocolate today. And it's only 10:38am 22:30 space_librarian I love you ladies. You're all awesome. :) 22:29 druthb space_librarian++ 22:29 druthb Is that all? sheesh. 22:29 huginn druthb: Karma for "space_librarian" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. 22:29 druthb @karma space_librarian 22:28 * cait sends more chocolate to space_librarian 22:28 space_librarian cait: yes we do. 22:26 jenkins_koha Starting build 208 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:26 cait I am talking about that for ages - we need a beamer 22:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6213 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Koha News template error 22:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6216 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Search results pagination links broken 22:26 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6213, Koha News template error 22:26 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6216, Search results pagination links broken 22:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #207: SUCCESS in 46 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/207/ 22:26 cait space_librarian++ 22:26 * space_librarian ponders stealing something from the USS Enterprise to make it so. 22:26 cait hehe 22:26 * druthb runs for RM next time. 22:26 cait it's rm magic 22:26 cait not sure that will work 22:25 druthb ooo! send me some chocolate, cait, so space_librarian will appear on my doorstep. 22:24 rangi space_librarian just came and gave me chocolate 22:24 * space_librarian chocolate magically appears on rangi's desk 22:24 rangi you have magic powers 22:23 * cait sends rangi more chocolate 22:22 druthb That's right...annoy gmcharlt, and he will deprecate you. Resistance is futile. 22:22 rangi then ill be looking at 5579 and 6227 22:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6215 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Pagination links missing on lists pages 22:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6214 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Staff client search results template error 22:22 * rangi has to fix bug 6214 and bug 6215 22:22 Brooke_ I knew there was a reason I didn't pick on you too much... 22:21 * Brooke_ gasps at gmcharlts powahs of deprecation. 22:21 rangi cool 22:21 gmcharlt patch incoming in 5 22:21 rangi yeah i can do that 22:21 gmcharlt rangi: willing to take the string change hit for the second part of it? 22:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6227 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, deprecate NoZebra for 3.4.0 22:21 gmcharlt bug 6227 22:20 cait gmcharlt: +1 22:20 huginn bg: Error: No such location could be found. 22:20 bg @wunder puppy-ouside? 22:20 * druthb renamed QueryFuzzy to QueryMurky, since she's editing sysprefs. 22:20 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.1�C (3:21 PM PDT on April 20, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). 22:20 bg @wunder 93109 22:19 * druthb was being kind. 22:18 Brooke_ ^ 22:18 gmcharlt druthb: heh. not sure that language is quite strong enough, though 22:18 space_librarian druthb ++ 22:18 druthb and if you change the syspref to switch to NoZebra, bring a page up that says, "now, why would you want to do that? Don't be silly." 22:18 jransom going dark now - work to do ! see you all 22:17 gmcharlt wouldn't be a completely ripping out of 3.4.0 (yet), just not promoting it as a suported option 22:17 space_librarian +1 22:17 Waylon Hmmm... backing up and restoring a server would be faster using XenServer than tarring a entire hdd? 22:17 druthb +1 22:17 rangi +1 from me 22:17 gmcharlt quick question/poll - what do people think of removing the NoZebra option during installation of 3.4.0 22:17 * space_librarian spies jransom and sends a piece of carrot cake up to Levin 22:16 * druthb waves to space_librarian and jransom. 22:15 Brooke_ Better brought enough for EVERYONE. 22:15 * space_librarian eats ridiculous awesome carrot cake and waves at Brooke_ and druthb 22:15 Brooke_ oi, someone let in this ratbag from Horowhenua in your absence. 22:14 * druthb waves back 22:14 * Brooke_ waves to druthb 22:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 21 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:12 Waylon ill do the setup of nginx and drupal for now. 22:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 6211: Set default correctly for SubscriptionHistory syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3223b18c6ab549dc4031ceed3afe8c4b0579cc7b> 22:10 Waylon Will do. 22:09 * Brooke_ thinks that hdl and sekjal are fine substitutes. 22:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6212 : Fix for tags label showing with no tags <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9554ea145d5b017f4e30382feb29c60e39be146> 22:08 rangi or sekjal 22:08 rangi or ask hdl in the evening 22:08 rangi ask me again after the 3.4.0 release 22:08 rangi i really dont have time at the moment, but i dont want you to race off 22:08 rangi persitent variables are not cleared 22:08 Waylon "not fastcgi safe" means? 22:07 jcamins Good night, #koha 22:07 rangi Waylon: koha isnt fastcgi safe 22:07 jcamins Let me try that again. 22:07 jcamins Good night, #koh1 22:06 Waylon http://library.linode.com/web-servers/nginx/perl-fastcgi/debian-5-lenny 22:06 Waylon ooo! 22:00 Waylon got a drupal under nginx howto... for fastcgi_php... 21:59 rangi ask me next week 21:59 Waylon rangi: nginx <-> fastcgi <-> koha? .... how have you done it? 21:59 rangi ask me again next week 21:59 * rangi doesnt have enough time to talk this through properly at the mo 21:59 rangi koha doesnt work under fastcgi without a chunk of work 21:58 rangi yes 21:58 Waylon rangi: fastcgi does... 21:58 rangi you cant just run koha under nginx 21:58 rangi nginx doesnt do cgi tho 21:58 rangi yes 21:58 Waylon rangi: nginx supports serveraliases? 21:58 rangi and some perl in the config 21:57 Waylon hmm.. 21:57 Waylon rangi: yes. same koha. just using virtualhosts to convey what domain name was used to connect to koha. 21:57 jransom big fella with dark hair and a sword is soooo close - i'm laughing here! 21:57 rangi cos if so, you could do it with one virtualhost and serveraliases 21:57 rangi ? 21:57 rangi t 21:57 rangi Waylon: but they are all the same koha righ 21:57 Brooke_ good discount for a good dwarf. 21:57 Brooke_ that's what the mate that sold me the axe said. 21:56 Waylon rangi: works, with apache. got lots of virtualhosts, using same apache config, same koha xml config... just lots of virtualhost directives. 21:56 conan then you're a dwarf! 21:56 Brooke_ though wider than tall. 21:56 * Brooke_ is big with dark hair and an axe. 21:56 rangi unless they are just different views on the same site 21:56 conan is Brooke_ a big fellow with dark hair, blue eyes and a sword on his back? 21:56 jransom smiles and waves at Caitlin 21:56 rangi Waylon: they cant all use the same zebra db, or mysqldb 21:55 cait hi jransom 21:55 cait rangi: send a patch now and mark it for 3.4.1? it will make those strings untranslated upon po file update 21:55 jransom hey everyone else 21:55 rangi Waylon: you cant do that 21:55 jransom hey Liz 21:55 Brooke_ a justifiable error. 21:55 wizzyrea hey jransom :) 21:55 Waylon rangi: same koha-conf.xml.. but seperate virtualhosts. 21:55 Brooke_ hehehe 21:55 jransom I just mistook conan for you :) 21:55 jransom Brooke baby! 21:54 Brooke_ kia ora 21:54 rangi (youd need sep koha-conf.xml anyway, you can make them all use the same zebra and mysql databases) 21:54 cait rangi: there are template expressions in the pref files to show the active currency, like: Prevent patrons from making holds on the OPAC if they owe more than ____ EUR in fines. 21:53 rangi what config are you talking about 21:53 rangi a koha-conf.xml for each? 21:53 Waylon rangi: so.. the only way to pass on what virtualhost was used, is to have a config for each virtualhost? 21:52 Waylon it was a minor patch.. 21:52 Waylon maybe 33.333333333 21:51 Waylon 33rd coder of koha. 21:51 Waylon yea.. hi. 21:51 wizzyrea hi :) 21:51 * wizzyrea did not realize that Waylon was aka genji 21:50 rangi no 21:50 Waylon is there a way with nginx, to let koha know the domain name it was contacted on, without a whole lot of config files? 21:49 Waylon reason why we create config files, is we need koha to know what virtualhost was used to contact it. 21:49 conan cool, I'll stop fiddling with buttons now then :) 21:48 rangi yup 21:48 conan rangi: and you reopened 6218, right? 21:48 rangi mark it resolved 21:48 jcamins Is there any way to git push all branches that *don't* conflict? 21:48 rangi and if it works 21:48 conan yes 21:48 rangi you can test master 21:48 conan g 21:48 conan rangi: ah... then I don't have to do anythin 21:48 rangi nope i have pushed that into master already 21:47 conan rangi: we're mixing everything :P, ok, do I set to needs sign off 6221? 21:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6218] patron login gets an initial dot added when no first name <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6218> 21:47 rangi conan: i used my dictator powers to skip the signed off step on that patch, cos it was tiny 21:47 cait I wonder if it should look like this: Sperre Vormerkfunktionen im OPAC für Benutzer mit mehr als ____ EUR Gebühren. 21:47 rangi sorry 6221 21:47 Waylon what complicates things, is that our koha creates virtualhost config files for lots of universities .. like imam.opac.mandumah.com .. need those config files... or do i... 21:47 cait hm 21:47 rangi yes 21:46 rangi 6218? 21:46 conan rangi: hum... wait a second, you set it to pushed, which is after needs signoff 21:45 rangi thanks 21:45 rangi exactly :) 21:45 conan rangi: no, I'll do it now, don't have to test it first, no? 21:44 Waylon I have no idea how to configure nginx for koha. 21:44 rangi do you want me to update 6221 for you? 21:44 rangi conan: cool 21:44 conan rangi: and also I was working on 6218, not 6221, haven't seen that they fixed it, will test now 21:43 Waylon intending to work out how to get nginx going. 21:43 conan rangi: ugh! 21:43 rangi then id go bare metal 21:43 rangi if they are fine sharing the same apache/mysql/etc 21:43 rangi how much separation do you want between clients? 21:42 rangi depends 21:42 Waylon greetings all. okay, XenServer... is available for free, my hosting provider can automatically install it for free. Our hardware is a 8gb 3.2 ghz quad core with HT, 2x500gb hdds. We may offer web space/koha SaaS to clients... should i go it bare metal, or use XenServer? 21:41 rangi we are only at step 2 :) resolved is step 6 21:41 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow 21:40 rangi oh dont do that 21:40 conan rangi: uh, I didn't read your previous commnet, I just set it to resolved 21:40 jenkins_koha Starting build 207 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6221 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Modifying patron doesn't show "Patron Account Flags" group 21:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6211 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, SubscriptionHistory doesn't have default value set 21:39 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6221, Modifying patron doesn't show "Patron Account Flags" group 21:39 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 6211: Set default correctly for SubscriptionHistory syspref 21:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #206: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/206/ 21:38 rangi then will do a quick once over myself and merge 21:37 rangi will apply to the branch and push 21:37 rangi thanks 21:37 gmcharlt rangi: sent 21:33 rangi :) 21:33 gmcharlt HEAD^^^, not HEAD^^ 21:32 rangi cool ta 21:32 gmcharlt sec 21:32 gmcharlt not yet 21:32 gmcharlt oops 21:32 rangi did that get submitted? 21:32 gmcharlt without it, stuff breaks 21:32 gmcharlt yes 21:32 rangi gmcharlt: was the data::dumper patch needed too ? 21:32 wizzyrea i've only just started looking into it 21:31 wizzyrea wonder what that's about 21:31 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/skbpuaqFhU 21:31 tcohen :-D 21:31 tcohen i think we'll solve it soon 21:31 tcohen oh, i was worried about that 21:31 rangi for trying to sort out the windows info 21:31 space_librarian summoning spells now, rangi? Nice. 21:30 tcohen ? 21:30 rangi its magic! 21:30 rangi 09:32 -!- tcohen [~tomas@201-212-44-111.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #koha 21:30 wizzyrea yay beer! 21:30 rangi 09:32 < rangi> tcohen++ 21:30 rangi heh 21:30 rangi tcohen++ 21:29 * space_librarian hands out beer to all 21:29 * wizzyrea does a little dance 21:29 space_librarian :) 21:29 rangi wizzyrea++ 21:29 wizzyrea gmcharlt++ 21:29 rangi and 21:29 rangi magnuse++ 21:29 rangi gmcharlt++ 21:29 rangi yay!!! 21:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 21:28 gmcharlt rangi: I've submitted the final two fixes for bug 5579 21:24 rangi and then it will show up in peoples reports of patches to sign off on 21:24 rangi (for 6221) 21:24 rangi conan: remember to set the priority to patch-sent and then the patch status to needs signoff 21:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6213, Koha News template error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd23e819c5de4e63c56a1c3675d2166dceea2efb> / Fix for Bug 6216, Search results pagination links broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c92c0229e409ece0000b290e45b29343e6fb417> 21:09 conan ok, back in track 21:04 conan ok, resetting it again... :( 21:03 conan The username or password you entered is not valid. If you do not enter the correct password after 2 more attempt(s), you will be locked out of this account for 30 minutes. 21:03 conan crap, I'm out of try out 21:02 conan I've tried with conan, conan@lugmen and conan@lugmen.org.ar, password has been just changed 21:01 rangi email usually 21:00 conan what uses bugzilla as login? I've already reset my password but it seems I forgot the login :| 20:59 * conan issues /etc/init.d/conan restart 20:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 206 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6221, Modifying patron doesn't show "Patron Account Flags" group <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2ad157eba6ee106e98ec41e7b6fadc566840c65> 20:54 * wizzyrea wonders idly if we filed a bug for that... goes to look 20:54 wizzyrea (which causes other troubles, we've found) 20:53 wizzyrea instead of having to re-scan an item to check it's status 20:53 wizzyrea I could see that helping if you were going a mile a minute, and you missed something, you could look back and see it right there 20:52 rangi yeah 20:52 wizzyrea on hold for X, send to 1 20:52 rangi ive had librarians forget 20:52 wizzyrea good point 20:52 rangi showing the branch it was to be transfered too 20:51 wizzyrea right, if it slowed it down that's right out 20:51 rangi also 20:51 rangi i think it would be good 20:51 wizzyrea i wonder if others feel the same 20:51 rangi yeah, as long as it didnt slow it down 20:51 wizzyrea I'm just stepping through a series of holds/transits etc, and I find myself wishing that the name hung around after I click confirm. 20:50 rangi they might look up 20:50 rangi i guess as long as it binged 20:50 rangi which is why we needed the audio prompts 20:50 wizzyrea that's true 20:50 rangi they just return things as fast as humanly possible 20:50 rangi is that librarians dont actually look at the screen 20:49 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/VrT7E5NB 20:49 rangi the one thing i have learnt 20:49 wizzyrea yes, one sec 20:49 rangi BUT 20:49 rangi i would think so 20:48 rangi are you asking if that is a good idea? 20:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6211: Set default correctly for SubscriptionHistory syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9be1d6ba9d5dc7cff65e0037ec8ecbe63c2a333> 20:48 rangi again, ... this time in english 20:47 wizzyrea not the alert box, the persistent list of checked in items 20:47 wizzyrea hm, cool or sucky: put the person an item is on hold for in the list of checked in items 20:45 rangi doug_dearden++ 20:42 rangi just watch out for feature 32373 20:42 wizzyrea there are so many delightful things in koha these days. Thanks guys. 20:24 wizzyrea so dupe and prompt 20:24 wizzyrea to duplicate 20:24 wizzyrea i'm imagining a cataloger with a sheet of barcodes picking an item she created yesterday that isn't in series with the sheet she's got in her hand 20:23 wizzyrea dupe and prompt 20:23 wizzyrea ^^ yes, that 20:23 gmcharlt or duplicate-and-prompt-for-just-the-new barcode 20:22 gmcharlt can just autocreate 20:22 gmcharlt well, not necessarily 20:22 wizzyrea but computing barcodes in that situation might be hard-ish 20:22 wizzyrea I was going to say it would be cool if when editing items, you could pick one and duplicate off of it, like when you add new. 20:21 gmcharlt :-P 20:21 gmcharlt I guess I will have to live my live sans coolness, then 20:21 wizzyrea :P 20:21 wizzyrea actually never mind. 20:21 wizzyrea you know what would be cool 20:20 oleonard Bye all 20:19 wizzyrea (that's kind of a given I think :P) 20:18 wizzyrea or reject it and notify 20:18 gmcharlt sign off on it and send a followup 20:17 gmcharlt if the patch you're signing off is almost, but not quite entirely right 20:16 gmcharlt http://git.librarypolice.com/?p=koha-galen.git;a=commit;h=e65814fe2afc96cd863b8a03e8574172b737e3ac 20:16 gmcharlt people who sign off patches should keep the comment in this patch in mind, please: 20:16 gmcharlt since this has pissed me off sufficiently ... 20:10 rhcl http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9215994/Kindle_books_to_be_loaned_from_libraries_later_this_year 20:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Add support of record linking by record control number in $w 20:07 jenkins_koha * Chris Nighswonger: Reverting pieces of enh bug 4506 which crept in 20:07 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating package lists 20:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.2.x build #20: SUCCESS in 38 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/20/ 19:49 cait kein problem :) 19:49 adnc thank you 19:48 adnc cait, das hat geholfen 19:48 * wizzyrea shudders 19:48 cait guesses are between 3 days and a week 19:48 cait we wondered how long it would take to index 12 million 19:48 cait ok 19:47 wizzyrea it's how it is, apparently... when you have 300k-ish items, it takes a while. 19:46 cait wizzyrea: 6 hours good or bad? 19:38 * cait waves francharb anyway 19:37 cait oh 19:37 wahanui1 cross posting is a bad habit 19:37 chris_n cross posting 19:37 wahanui1 OK, chris_n. 19:37 chris_n wahanui1: cross posting is a bad habit 19:35 * chris_n cross posts a post about cross posting with the hope of reducing cross posting... 19:32 rhcl oops 19:32 rhcl ping irc.oftc.net 19:30 rhcl cam mibbit 19:29 jenkins_koha Starting build 20 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:28 cait liegt dein koha im home verzeichnis vom Benutzer oder unter usr/share ? 19:27 cait jetzt sollte im Idealfall die fehlermeldung weg sein 19:27 cait ja 19:27 adnc diese beiden habe ich ausommentiert 19:27 adnc melm 785$w Record-control-number 19:27 adnc melm 780$w Record-control-number 19:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Reverting pieces of enh bug 4506 which crept in <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=56762e966b12f5c676cf6f9ec1b276a9c2784325> / Updating package lists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fa977dec1f321f79269e8a35159cf81bf38a518> 19:26 chris_n fixed in the main repo for all of you hanging on with your fingernails... ;-) 19:25 adnc biblios or authorities? 19:25 cait marc21/biblios 19:25 chris_n hmm... I"m guessing it should be ok 19:25 adnc ./zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/biblios/record.abs 19:25 adnc ./zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/authorities/record.abs 19:25 adnc ./zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs 19:25 adnc ./zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/authorities/record.abs 19:25 adnc which one of these? 19:25 cait chris_n: when using packages? 19:25 wahanui1 packages are so easy to build from any branch that was based on master 19:25 adnc packages 19:25 adnc debian 19:25 cait oder packages? 19:24 cait adnc: welche Art von Installation hast du gemacht? git? 19:24 chris_n otherwise merge conflicts could occur 19:24 cait ah 19:24 adnc wo ist die datei 19:24 chris_n only if you're not running over git 19:24 cait adnc: in der datei record.abs müssen die beiden Zeilen mit Record-control-number gelöscht oder auskommentiert werden 19:24 cait chris_n: should be ok to delete those lines until 3.2.8? 19:23 adnc cait, gibts eine Lösung? 19:23 cait my patch for 3.4 will add them back 19:22 cait only those lines 19:22 chris_n k 19:22 chris_n cait: so does that entire commit need to be reverted? or just those lins 19:22 cait chris_n: I think deleting those 2 lines referencing Record-control-number should fix it 19:20 cait chris_n: git show 6aa5368e 19:18 cait chris_n: check here http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=baf3f605ecca2201527fc985cb9267b9f2809bd2 19:17 chris_n cait: which attr is it? 19:16 cait let me investigate a bit more please 19:16 cait only the lines referring to that index 19:16 adnc ok 19:16 cait no 19:16 cait give me a few more minutes to find out 19:16 adnc that file? 19:16 cait delete it 19:16 adnc kill it? 19:16 cait or you can try to kill it 19:16 cait you can try adding the index (make it work) 19:16 adnc and you would know what to change 19:16 adnc cait, someone sait making changes to bib1.att helps fixing the zebraidx warnings 19:15 cait for my libaries... the 4506 - but that doesn't apply worldwide I think :) 19:15 cait hard one! 19:15 wizzyrea ok vote: in your opinion, what are the 5 best new features in koha 3.4? 19:15 chris_n hmmm 19:15 cait it must have crept in with another patch 19:15 cait I didn#t see you push it 19:15 chris_n cait: I don't see any commits in 3.2.x with that bug number... 19:14 adnc mhh 19:14 cait I have no idea when and why, trying to track that down now 19:14 cait and part of it transferred into 3.2.x 19:14 cait it introduced this new index into koha 19:14 cait no 19:14 adnc cait is it bug 4506 that fixes the zebraidx error? 19:13 cait hm seems it's record.abs 19:13 * oleonard has to google that one 19:13 * wizzyrea mutters about tiny sugar dinosaur eggs. 19:13 wizzyrea dinosau... evil. 19:13 rangi right now im really gone 19:13 rangi with the dinosaur eggs 19:13 wizzyrea hahaha 19:13 rangi the quaker one 19:13 rangi oleonard: tell ya what he loves 19:13 adnc ohh hallo cait 19:12 * oleonard volunteers to send rangi some 'murican porridge if he needs some 19:12 * rangi will bbiab 19:12 cait hehe 19:12 rangi and laurel yells atme 19:12 rangi before he eats all the crackers for breakfast 19:12 rangi i have to go feed kahu 19:12 rangi ok 19:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Add support of record linking by record control number in $w 19:12 cait bug 4506 19:11 chris_n cait: which commit is it? 19:11 cait it shouldn't be there at all - killing it should be easier than to make it work 19:10 * chris_n is disillusioned 19:10 cait chris_n: let me take a look at the repo 19:10 * cait looks up 19:10 cait yes? 19:09 adnc ;) 19:09 * rangi doesnt know everything 19:09 rangi adnc: if i knew i would 19:09 adnc rangi, can't you tell me what to change 19:09 chris_n have git, will revert... just point out which commit and away it goes ;-) 19:08 rangi im hoping she will tell chris_n the file to fix in 3.2.x too, so it will be fixed for 3.2.8 19:08 adnc cait, hallooo 19:08 adnc ;) 19:08 rangi adnc: cait knows, and she can tell you in german :) 19:07 adnc in that file 19:07 adnc what exactly needs to be changed? 19:07 rangi chris_n: so needs to be taken out 19:07 jcamins adnc: ah, it's probably not in 3.2.7. Never mind. 19:07 rangi chris_n: no its more a feature was half cherry-picked to 3.2.x at some point 19:07 chris_n if it was pushed to master during the hack-fest, it probably did not make it in 3.2.7, but should be in 3.2.x branch now 19:06 jcamins etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/bib1.att I think 19:06 wizzyrea i love those moments when someone says something that is so unexpected you can't help but laugh. 19:06 adnc and what do I have to change there 19:06 rangi chris_n: the record-control-number one, cait .. you know more 19:06 jcamins adnc: the file is bib1.att. 19:05 wizzyrea oleonard: that made me lol. 19:05 adnc jcamins, which one? 19:05 wahanui1 oleonard: wish i knew 19:05 oleonard wahanui1: Which witch is which? 19:05 wizzyrea sekjal: you should fill that with ideas for your mega vacation 19:05 wahanui1 chris_n: I forgot which 19:05 chris_n forget which 19:05 wahanui1 which is not which 19:05 chris_n which? 19:05 jcamins adnc: it's one of the configuration files for Zebra. 19:05 sekjal nano vacay gives me a new, empty file.... 19:04 rangi adnc: i dont think that fix made it into 3.2.7 .. chris_n ? 19:04 adnc jcamins, can you please tell me more 19:04 adnc bib1.att.? 19:04 jcamins adnc: you need to update your bib1.att. 19:04 rangi chris_n: one we should kill 19:04 nengard can't do any vaca my baby girl needs me 19:04 * chris_n notices cross-posting is becoming a fad 19:03 adnc I've updted to 3.2.7 but still I get these errors per mail when adding books: 21:05:01-20/04 zebraidx(10527) [warn] Index 'Record-control-number' not found in attset(s) 19:03 wizzyrea how about a nano-vacay, just a few hours :) 19:03 wizzyrea yepper 19:03 nengard wizzyrea it's time for a vacation ... but I can't take one of those yet 19:03 rangi would be great 19:03 rangi if you can verify it works for you too wizzyrea then mrking it resolved worksforme with a note this is fixed in master 19:03 wizzyrea it works for me too 19:03 rangi good so its not just me 19:02 oleonard Works for me 19:02 wizzyrea i can check that sec 19:02 rangi oleonard: can you reproduce it? 19:01 wizzyrea :) 19:01 wizzyrea perhaps it's time for a rest 19:00 nengard if you can't tell i'm a bit scattered today - screwing a lot up :( 19:00 nengard um ... that comment was supposed to go on another bug ... the one about the patron flags 19:00 rangi oleonard: im 99% sure i fixed that a week or 2 ago 18:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6222 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron messaging preferences tables does not appear when modifying patron 18:59 oleonard nengard: You could reproduce Bug 6222? 18:56 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6221] Modifying patron doesn't show "Patron Account Flags" group <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6221> 18:54 rangi oleonard++ 18:50 jcamins Okay, that makes sense too. 18:50 rangi that doesnt require any package name changes, and keeps the stable repo tracking the latest stable 18:49 rangi (squeeze-old, squeeze and squeeze-dev) 18:49 rangi but i think squeeze should track latest stable 18:49 rangi then if you want to, you can change to that repo 18:49 rangi and put the 3.2 packages in there 18:48 rangi squeeze-old 18:48 rangi make another repo 18:48 rangi what we might do is 18:48 jcamins And certainly makes our job upgrading from 3.2 to 3.4 a lot easier. 18:48 rangi thats on you 18:48 jcamins That makes sense. 18:48 rangi so im thinkiing packages track latest stable, if you want to run old release 18:48 wizzyrea (why in gods name you would ever want to run an old version of wordpress is totally beyond me though, so that makes complete sense) 18:47 rangi you end up needing a crap load of debian maintainers 18:47 rangi hehe 18:47 wizzyrea too* 18:47 wizzyrea always 2sec to slow 18:47 jcamins Ah. 18:47 wizzyrea grr lol 18:47 wizzyrea wp makes packages of only the latest version, requires manual install for older versions. 18:47 rangi wordpress just tracks the latest stable 18:47 rangi firefox does the 3.6 4.0 different packages 18:46 * jcamins doesn't know what either project does. 18:46 rangi it makes about a zillion times harder to get into debian 18:46 adnc if the name of the package is going to change than we would need to install a separate package 18:46 rangi instead of what firefox does 18:45 rangi id rather do what wordpress etc do 18:45 rangi im fairly loathe to go that route 18:45 rangi havent decided 18:45 jcamins But there will be a Koha 3.2 package and a Koha 3.4 package, won't there? 18:44 rangi nope 18:44 jcamins rangi: I guess the package names are going to have to change? 18:43 adnc if you think 3.4 will be the next days release I would wait 18:43 rangi the squeeze-dev repo has packages built from master 18:43 rangi if you want to get that now, and arent scared of running prerelease code 18:42 wizzyrea the 3.2 releases are all bugfix only, no new features 18:42 wizzyrea it missed the 3.2 feature freeze, so 3.4 would be the first release to include it 18:42 rangi 3.4.0 will 18:41 adnc rangi, do you know which version did start including non public opac? 18:41 rangi but shortly thereafter 18:41 rangi no not on the 22nd 18:40 adnc when 3.4 is released will it be available on the 22. also packaged? 18:40 cait ah 18:40 rangi cait: there are files under there that list the packages 18:40 nengard what was it? 18:40 nengard awesome library_systems_guy 18:39 rangi adnc: for 3.2.7 yes 18:39 cait install misc? 18:39 library_systems_guy nengard, I got the test server up and running from an update. Figured out what we were missing 18:37 adnc rangi, is there an update for debian packaged koha 3.2? 18:32 rangi that would great 18:32 rangi if someone has time, to check the install_misc files and make sure i didnt miss it anywhere 18:31 jcamins Template toolkit package is libtemplate-perl on Debian, or perl-Template-Toolkit on RedHat. But use Debian for Koha. 18:31 wahanui1 jcamins: I forgot template toolkit package 18:31 jcamins wahanui1: forget template toolkit package 18:30 wizzyrea we should use yours jcamins 18:30 wahanui1 Template toolkit package is libtemplate-perl 18:30 wizzyrea Template toolkit package? 18:30 wahanui1 jcamins? 18:30 jcamins wahanui1? 18:30 wahanui1 somebody said wahanui was a bot 18:30 jcamins wahanui? 18:29 wahanui1 template toolkit package is libtemplate-perl 18:29 jcamins template toolkit package? 18:28 * wizzyrea gives up 18:28 wizzyrea ? 18:28 wizzyrea template toolkit package/ 18:28 wizzyrea lol 18:28 jcamins Template toolkit package is libtemplate-perl on Debian, or perl-Template-Toolkit on RedHat. 18:28 wizzyrea template toolkit package is libtemplate-perl 18:27 wahanui1 wizzyrea: I forgot templat toolkit package 18:27 wizzyrea wahanui: forget templat toolkit package 18:27 wizzyrea gr 18:27 rangi and wizzy you typoed 18:27 rangi i have updated all the docs about that 18:27 wizzyrea come on wahanui! 18:27 wizzyrea template toolkit package? 18:27 library_systems_guy yeah that one :) 18:27 wizzyrea templat toolkit package is libtemplate-perl 18:27 wizzyrea template toolkit package? 18:25 library_systems_guy thanks jcamins 18:25 library_systems_guy *gets out pen and paper 18:25 jcamins libtemplate-perl 18:24 library_systems_guy speaking of templating, what was that debian package again? 18:23 cait oh 18:23 cait it's in the pref files 18:23 cait I don't know :) but will test it 18:23 jcamins [% local_currency %] right? 18:22 cait <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME=\"local_currency\" --> 18:22 cait can someone help me translate that into tt? 18:22 wizzyrea i forget what the pref is called 18:22 wizzyrea holds queue also assigns based on the weights in the sysprefs 18:21 wizzyrea here's a hold, and these people can fill it 18:21 jcamins I see. 18:21 wizzyrea holds to pull is just a scatter shot 18:21 jcamins Ah. 18:21 wizzyrea the hold queue report will prefer to put the item from library A on the hold queue for library A 18:20 jcamins I got that there was a use for Holds to Pull, just not what it was. ;) 18:20 wizzyrea say you have 5 items, and a hold for a patron at library A 18:20 jcamins Right, but what I didn't understand was "prefers to put items with patrons at their branch." 18:20 wizzyrea for everyday usage, yes, I think libraries should use the Hold Queue 18:19 wizzyrea I think they're both useful 18:19 jcamins What do you mean? 18:19 wizzyrea it's useful data 18:19 wizzyrea holds to pull shows every hold that is #1, and who has items to fill it 18:18 wizzyrea holds queue prefers to put items with patrons at their branch 18:18 wizzyrea here's the rub on that 18:18 wahanui1 cait: I forgot holds queue 18:18 cait forget holds queue 18:18 jcamins So instead of Holds to Pull, libraries should use the Holds Queue? 18:17 jcamins Ah. 18:17 sekjal holds to pull is mostly deprecated 18:17 wahanui1 holds queue is probably (typically) 18:17 jcamins Oh, holds queue. 18:17 sekjal Holds Queue is (typically) 18:16 jcamins Holds to pull is the report that is regenerated every hour, right? 18:10 * Brooke_ runs off to halfheartedly forage. 18:09 cait because of the fines 18:09 cait I use <item> most of the time 18:09 cait hm 18:08 jcamins items.content. 18:08 cait what did you use? <item> </item> or items.content? 18:08 cait hm, no, I didn't have the problem 18:04 jcamins Initially I thought it was a client issue, so I was going to provide a PDF, but it's the same problem in the PDF. 18:04 jcamins Yeah. 18:04 cait so the lines are cutoff? 18:03 jcamins The lines. 18:03 cait not wrapping? 17:59 jcamins Has anyone encountered problems with overdue notices not wrapping? 17:55 collum hi cait :-) 17:54 cait hi collum 17:52 collum hi Brooke_ 17:52 * Brooke_ waves to collum 17:26 * conan will be back 17:25 * Brooke_ smiles. 17:25 * Oak thinks Brooke_ is funny 17:24 * Brooke_ is a tosser. 17:24 Oak we don't see you much here. Why? 17:23 Oak \0 Brooke_ 17:23 Brooke_ 0/ 17:20 conan no, it doesn't work... yet 17:19 conan instead of lc("$firstname.$surname"); 17:19 conan lc(($first)? $first.'.' : '' . $last); 17:18 conan oleonard: ah, cool, I got the fix already 17:16 oleonard conan: I was just pointing out where the operation happens for whoever sets out to fix it 17:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6218 minor, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, patron login gets an initial dot added when no first name 17:15 conan oleonard: I don't understand your reply to bug 6218, are you telling me where it is, or are you telling me that it's fixed? (I don't see it fixed, but then again, I have no perl vudu) 17:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6224 blocker, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, New patrons created with an OPAC login but no password are assigned a default password 17:15 oleonard Bug 6224 17:12 cait that really is a while 17:12 sekjal well there we go 17:08 oleonard git show 87b792b2 17:08 Brooke_ /roll 17:08 sekjal git blame? 17:06 * cait shudders 17:06 cait and it's been there like forever probably 17:06 nengard glad you checked 17:06 nengard i forget who told me there was no default password 17:06 * Brooke_ would call that a blockah 17:05 nengard oleonard that is so so so bad 17:00 * oleonard goes to file a bug report 17:00 cait oleonard: it makes me want to hide under my desk 16:59 cait wizzyrea: about your answer to the mailing list: I wonder if their templates are not up to date 16:59 oleonard That sounds like a huge security hole to me. 16:59 oleonard If I create a new patron, enter an opac login but not a password, I can log in as that patron by entering ! as the password. 16:53 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 16:53 gmcharlt @later tell hdl I think it would be a better idea to support DBIx::Class rather than SQLHelper, FWIW 16:53 cait !? 16:52 oleonard Looks like a default password to me 16:52 oleonard sub AddMember: $data{'password'} = '!' if (not $data{'password'} and $data{'userid'}); 16:51 Brooke_ sekjal++ 16:40 conan cait: tx 16:34 hdl Have to go now. 16:34 hdl sekjal: you proposed to send some documentation of your methodology to test the code cycles... if you have time, i am interested in that. 16:32 sekjal hdl: none in mind right now, but I'll keep that in mind for the 3.6 release cycle 16:31 hdl Do you have unit tests of you would like to see implemented ? Maybe That could be implemented in SQLHelper. 16:28 sekjal it would need to be tested and profiled thoroughly 16:27 hdl would be far less efficient than mysql imho 16:27 sekjal perhaps doing a more liberal search, then culling the results with perl... 16:26 sekjal hdl: I really want to pull the REGEX part out of SearchMember, if at all possible 16:25 Brooke_ chris_n++ 16:24 sekjal hdl: the problem I ran into was the implicit OR when using SQLHelper a data_array_ref 16:23 Oak Statistically speaking, you will die having missed almost everything. http://tinyurl.com/5t72ttd 16:23 nengard has anyone gotten results from the new holds statistics report? 16:23 chris_n but it is a step 16:22 chris_n well... its still a ways from full implementation 16:22 gmcharlt chris_n++ 16:22 wizzyrea i'm not sure how best to celebrate that, you worked so long and hard on it, it deserves fanfare! 16:21 cait chris_n++ 16:21 cait yay :) 16:21 wizzyrea chris_n++ YAY!! 16:21 chris_n http://imagebin.org/149292 <-- chinese char in a koha pdf label batch 16:19 * Brooke_ is an olde timey X & O chick. 16:18 Brooke_ didn't realise. 16:18 Brooke_ oleonard: off got that before but uhhh 16:18 hdl SearchMember() is fast. which is required for circulation. But if you want to search the whole table, or some fields, having a way to rewrite the SQL quite generically (with SQL::Abstract or even DBIx::Class would be much more handy). SQLHelper was meant to help transition.... But I think that it would have required much more feedback. Doing the work for every single table.... will soon be boring... (think of aqorders, budgets, ...) 16:18 wizzyrea [off] consider yourself educated :P 16:17 oleonard [off] I don't chat enough with people who want to smooch me I guess. I didn't know that one 16:16 wizzyrea [off] just started :) I think he reads emoticon. ;) 16:16 cait conan: go to patrons, click on the plus + 16:16 jcamins [off] wizzyrea: your son IMs? 16:16 druthb [off] lol! 16:15 wizzyrea [off] wow it's embarrassing when you type in your IRC window rather than your IM window. That smooch was for my son :P 16:14 wizzyrea errrr ! 16:14 wizzyrea :* 16:13 sekjal I'm also looking at making the borrower table fields that are searchable into a syspref 16:13 sekjal basic plan is to unify patron search to always using SearchMember(), and teching that up so it can handle Extended Attributes and branchcode/categorycode limiters 16:12 sekjal hdl: haven't written up my full bug report yet, no. was gathering all the existing bugs that it will solve, and getting ready to link them 16:11 conan how can I do that? 16:11 conan say that I want to find all patrons which are 'staff' for example 16:11 conan is there a way to search patrons by category? 16:10 hdl sekjal: is there some RFCs for your member search ? will you dump the information in a single table ? 16:08 nengard k ignore me ... the darn thing works 16:07 nengard it's showing now that the ists are showing ... off to check a title that doesn't have a list 16:07 nengard oleonard - you're going to think i'm a pain .... 16:06 nengard and now that the list is public it shows 16:06 nengard lists wouldnt' show if it wasn't set 16:06 nengard oleonard - yes, and i reset it too 16:06 oleonard nengard: Did you double check that OpacBaseURL is set? 16:04 sekjal have the smart-rules enhancements on a branch for testing 16:04 sekjal hdl: working on members search, yes 16:03 hdl sekjal: have you done something on members search ? have you seen the smart-rules enhancements ? 16:03 druthb hi, Brooke_! 16:02 Brooke_ kia ora 16:02 oleonard Now that I have it set I see the link 16:02 oleonard Strange, I have to take it back. I thought I had OpacBaseURL set and I didn't 16:01 nengard checked that with the lists 16:01 nengard yes 16:01 jcamins nengard: did you set opacBaseURL? 16:01 oleonard Looks like a bug to me 16:01 nengard okay it's back!! :) thanks oleonard ... now the 'open in new window' link ... is that a bug or my fried brain? 15:59 nengard why isn't it public??? ... off to make it public 15:59 nengard oh wait!!! 15:59 nengard next .... ? 15:59 nengard web development is a public list 15:58 oleonard It only shows the "lists this title..." link if the list is public 15:58 oleonard nengard: Aha 15:57 oleonard Yeah that's missing for me too 15:54 nengard but my link to 'open in the opac' is also missing 15:53 nengard nope .. the sys prefs for the urls are set 15:52 nengard wait .... system preferences ... off to check 15:51 nengard what am i missing 15:51 nengard oleonard - watch here: http://www.screencast.com/users/NicoleEngard/folders/Jing/media/7a6b56e4-6b6e-473b-bfa2-79e48765d91f 15:46 nengard let me open jing 15:46 nengard this book i'm looking out is in the list ... but i don't see the 'lists this title...' 15:46 nengard okay i'm confused 15:45 oleonard FF3 and FF4 15:45 nengard chrome 15:45 nengard off ot check chome 15:45 oleonard Both. OPAC and staff client 15:45 oleonard :( 15:45 nengard with XSLT on? 15:45 nengard of course it does 15:45 nengard oh boy! 15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6219 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Lists this title is in not appearing 15:44 oleonard nengard: Bug 6219 works for me 15:41 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5166] Refactor rebuild_zebra.pl into a library <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5166> 15:38 chris_n see the section on upgrade installs 15:38 chris_n library_systems_guy: 'perldoc Makefile.PL' is your friend 15:32 library_systems_guy it would erase my changes right? 15:32 library_systems_guy but if i re-run make 15:32 jcamins library_systems_guy: so why change it? 15:32 library_systems_guy well not update, but i have configs in there for ldap 15:31 druthb Me either. 15:30 jcamins library_systems_guy: I have never needed to update that file. 15:30 library_systems_guy err...koha.conf? 15:30 jcamins library_systems_guy: I generally copy the files I'm interested in over manually, but that's because I do strange things with my Zebra configs. 15:30 library_systems_guy right but remaking would wipe your configuration files right? 15:29 Oak \o 15:29 druthb a make install, I should think, though I don't deal with standard installs much. 15:28 library_systems_guy how do the new files get over to /root/koha-dev/? 15:28 library_systems_guy and then do a rebase 15:28 library_systems_guy when you do an update from git 15:28 library_systems_guy I'm going to try it again with dev, but I have a random question that you may be able to answer 15:26 library_systems_guy err...master 15:26 library_systems_guy maybe i just came in at a bad time in for head 15:26 druthb I've not bumped into large problems with the web installer, either, when I have used it, other than occasional typos in the default .sql files. 15:26 library_systems_guy well my issue has been updating 15:26 oleonard But I don't do installs very often because I only do it with test instances 15:25 * druthb nods. 15:25 oleonard library_systems_guy: I'm surprised you're having problems. Usually the only problems I run into are 1) dependencies 2) apache config or 3) zebra setup 15:25 druthb but an updatedatabase.pl run will bring it up to whatever-your-code is. 15:25 druthb yeah, that's why I update it periodically, to HEAD--or whatever I'm installing on at the moment, which might lag a bit behind, when HEAD is acting strange. 15:24 druthb It's a little bit of a wild-and-wooly way to install things, but it does save me a bit of time each time. 15:23 library_systems_guy man 2 or 3 months in koha time is ages ago 15:23 library_systems_guy ahh 15:22 druthb yah...it is a mysqldump of a koha install from--oh, two or three months ago; I update it periodically--that has no branches, no bibs/items/borrowers, no item types or patron categories. but the table structures are all there, and sysprefs and default stuff that I *do* want. 15:21 library_systems_guy empty_koha file? 15:21 druthb I have a gzipped empty_koha file...it's a couple of versions back, but you restore it, then run updatedatabase.pl, and start stuffing data into it. 15:20 oleonard druthb: never run the web installer? 15:20 library_systems_guy * library_systems_guy is a n00b :( 15:20 library_systems_guy hmm 15:20 * druthb almost-never does that, and hasn't lately. 15:20 druthb oh, running the web installer. hm. 15:20 library_systems_guy through the web interface 15:20 library_systems_guy when im trying to bring it to life 15:19 druthb when do you get that? During make-test, or once it's breathing? 15:18 library_systems_guy in (of course) context.pm 15:18 library_systems_guy i was getting an unblessed reference 15:18 library_systems_guy well i had a specific error that rangi and I played around with for awhile 15:17 druthb what sorts of mischief are you running into? 15:17 library_systems_guy hmm 15:17 druthb I've done it so much, that's like asking "how do you make your heart beat." It Just Works... uhm. 15:17 library_systems_guy sorry for the long explanation 15:17 druthb goodness. 15:16 library_systems_guy so I was wondering if you had any tips 15:16 library_systems_guy so nengard was raving about how you set up her laptop to run koha. I notieced when i was poking around that it was the dev install. So far I haven't been able to get koha running on dev just on standard 15:15 druthb ask. 15:15 library_systems_guy its ok if you can't i have a question for you anyway 15:15 * druthb tries to remember... 15:15 library_systems_guy what was up? 15:15 druthb yep! 15:14 library_systems_guy i saw where i missed something from you yesterday 15:14 druthb for some loosely-interpreted value of "here", yes. 15:14 library_systems_guy druthb, you're here :) 15:14 druthb don' cry! :D 15:13 * druthb is. 15:11 library_systems_guy :'( 15:11 library_systems_guy druthb you here? 15:11 library_systems_guy ok ill see if i can catch her 15:10 nengard if she's not answering right now it's cause she's on a call or in a meeting 15:10 nengard all the time 15:10 library_systems_guy does she get on a lot? 15:10 nengard np 15:10 library_systems_guy thanks nengard 15:10 library_systems_guy (sp) 15:10 nengard druthb 15:10 library_systems_guy does anyone know what ruth's name is on here? 15:09 jcamins It took me a while to figure out why I was getting anomalous behavior with that client's database. 15:09 kf time to leave - bbl :) 15:09 jcamins gmcharlt: true. 15:08 glernil :) 15:08 gmcharlt just inviting trouble 15:07 gmcharlt jcamins: though important trivia - actually, it'd probably be best if we stopped letting the mysql credentials be a valid staff login 15:06 jcamins That's okay. It was just trivia anyway. 15:05 gmcharlt jcamins: ah, sorry - reading comprehension FAIL 15:05 conan and we solved it by only talking :P 15:05 conan yay! 1 bug less :P 15:05 jcamins gmcharlt: I was sharing a discovery that rather surprised me. ;) 15:04 jcamins conan: right, that doesn't help. 15:04 conan jcamins: there is a staff member named 'Admin, Koha' but with no OPAC login set 15:04 gmcharlt (b) upgrades 15:04 gmcharlt (a) initial setup 15:04 gmcharlt jcamins: dunno; my recommendation is to never actually use it except for the two cases when it's required 15:04 jcamins conan: that's correct. There's no way for Koha to know what to set the library to. 15:03 conan jcamins: that's what I'm telling, I noticed when I checked again, it's working for other patrons, so it's ok then, no bug, right? 15:03 jcamins gmcharlt: did you know that you can actually assign that login to a staff member with superlibrarian privileges, and it will work? 15:02 gmcharlt but one that does not correspond to a Koha patron record 15:02 tcohen conan: kohaadmin is the db user 15:02 gmcharlt logging in with the mysql database username and password is an automatic superlibrarian 15:02 wizzyrea now, you guys can go ahead and make that better ;) 15:02 jcamins conan: how would Koha know what library to associate that account with? 15:02 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Testing_Plan 15:02 gmcharlt conan: there's also a special account involved 15:02 kf conan: superlibrarian is one of the permissions 15:01 library_systems_guy thanks jcamins 15:01 wizzyrea the simple answer is "GO FASTER!" 15:01 kf a lit of the command line options 15:01 library_systems_guy doh 15:01 conan gmcharlt: I've checked again #1, library doesn't get set if you login as 'kohaadmin', which I assumed is a superlibrarian, however searching for 'kohaadmin' in patrons doesn't show it, so maybe this is a feature? 15:01 jcamins library_systems_guy: no, that's the help. 15:01 kf library_systems_guy: the command will bring up the manual written in the perl file 15:00 nengard thanks jcamins 15:00 library_systems_guy jcamins, with just the file name afterwards? 15:00 wizzyrea yes please 15:00 gmcharlt wizzyrea: page edit timeout? 15:00 wizzyrea i am always getting kicked out before I'm done >.< 15:00 jcamins I think. 15:00 jcamins library_systems_guy: bulkmarcimport.pl -h 15:00 * kf sends wizzyrea cookies 15:00 nengard hang on 14:59 * wizzyrea begs 14:59 nengard i'm thinking it's in the perl docs 14:59 wizzyrea pleasssse 14:59 wizzyrea gmcharlt: can you up the timeout on the wiki session? 14:59 nengard i'm thinking not 14:59 library_systems_guy i can't seem to find it 14:59 nengard um 14:59 library_systems_guy is there a wiki over using the bulk import script? 14:59 library_systems_guy documentation*** 14:59 library_systems_guy oh nengard you are the documnetation lady lol, I have a question 14:58 nengard hehe 14:58 gmcharlt nengard: my dear sir? 14:58 library_systems_guy happy to be back away from librarians nengard 14:57 nengard hiya library_systems_guy 14:56 library_systems_guy hey guys :) 14:52 nengard I don't know if that's better or worse than the spam I get addresses to 'dear sir' or 'my dear' 14:52 nengard maybe .... but that's coming from my email addres and has your name on it ... not the other way around 14:50 slef me either. It's "Dear Nicole C. Engard". hrm, wonder if it's off a Koha newsletter 14:49 nengard no clue 14:49 nengard um 14:48 slef hi all, hi nengard. nengard: I keep getting spam addressed to you in the salutation. Any idea why? 14:48 nengard (spell?) 14:48 nengard hiya - back from the vet - my girl has pancreatitis 14:48 kf hi nengard 14:48 kf conan: only confirming that there is no bug ;) 14:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6217 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Searching for 3 part patron names brings no results 14:48 wizzyrea sekjal bug 6217 14:47 * conan filling bugs... 14:47 conan just wanted to check before 14:47 conan kf: no, I'm gonna fill them now 14:46 kf conan: I put 4 on the template toolkit wiki page - but no bug was filed 14:46 oleonard conan: Not that I know of 14:46 conan oleonard: about the ENH I mean 14:45 conan oleonard: is there a bug filled you remember? (don't search if you don't recall, I'll do it) 14:45 gmcharlt #5 - yep, definitely a bug (assuming that the enhancedmessagingprefs syspref is turned on in your DB, of course) 14:44 sekjal for things like CanPlaceOnShelfHolds, or CanOPACRenew (or any other action we'd like to control on a more user-centric basis) 14:44 sekjal ones that can be assigned to patrons as well as staff 14:44 gmcharlt conan: #2 - reasonable, but would be a minor ENH then 14:43 sekjal wizzyrea: yes, permissions_templates of some kind 14:43 conan gmcharlt: thanks 14:43 conan gmcharlt: but I disagree on #2, if first name is empty, then no dot should be added 14:43 wizzyrea oh yea, role based permissions are a very needed thing 14:43 gmcharlt #5 - bug, I think - I don't see that the message prefs table was explicitly moved 14:43 kf sekjal: sorry, I was agreeing with owen about having an active developer for them - didn't want to put them all on your shoulders :) 14:41 gmcharlt #4 - bug 14:40 gmcharlt though #3 may be veering into an ENH 14:40 gmcharlt #1, #3 are bugs 14:40 oleonard conan, that last ENH is an oft-requested feature 14:40 gmcharlt conan: the second is part of expected behavior - if you fill in both first name and surname, the default opaclogin it creates should be first.last 14:39 conan just skim it 14:39 conan or if something is already reported 14:39 conan before filling a bug report, can someone take a look to see if something is not a bug 14:39 conan those are the ones I've found so far 14:38 pastebot0 "conan" at 190.220.130.20 pasted "RFC: possible bugs to be filled on bugzilla" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/21 14:37 wizzyrea you wouldn't have known that if you hadn't looked 14:37 wizzyrea suddenly, you don't have renewals 14:37 wizzyrea as an example, let's say you're updating a few DB revisions, and you don't know it but those revisions changed the circ rules 14:36 wizzyrea it's still good to at least have a look 14:36 wizzyrea but I think, for the most part 14:36 wizzyrea depending on the situation, some of those things get glossed over or cursory checks 14:36 wizzyrea right, and when we are going over that list in our testing 14:35 wizzyrea mostly because people were getting sidetracked by the new shinies, and things like "I can't place a hold" were getting missed 14:35 conan well, it's an idea 14:35 conan but there are also things you don't need to check when you are just checking the software still works 14:35 wizzyrea well new features get crammed down to the bottom of the list 14:34 conan there are similarities 14:34 conan and one for testing a release 14:34 wizzyrea ah yea 14:34 conan wizzyrea: one for testing a working library, an in production one 14:34 wizzyrea conan: I'm listening :) 14:33 sekjal sure, I'd be willing to do that, so long as everyone's okay with me reassigning when I can't tackle something on my own 14:33 conan wizzyrea: if you plan to port the checlist to the wiki, have in mind that maybe we should start with two lists: 14:33 kf those are major modules and I think owen is right 14:32 kf not saying you should take them all - but perhaps reassign? 14:32 kf hm patrons and circulation perhaps 14:31 sekjal I'm open to signing up for others, as well, if there are any that could use reassigning 14:29 gmcharlt also done 14:29 sekjal I'd do 'Self checkout' as well... I was in there pretty recently 14:29 druthb sekjal++ 14:29 kf sekjal++ :) 14:29 gmcharlt done 14:28 sekjal ian.walls@bywatersolutions.com 14:28 gmcharlt sekjal: k - what email address do you use for BZ? 14:28 wizzyrea I haven't filed a holds bug in a while (and I'm SOFLIPPINHAPPYABOUTIT) 14:27 sekjal gmcharlt: it's probably suicide, but I could take 'Hold requests' 14:26 kf never mind... I will look it up 14:26 kf who is listed? 14:26 oleonard I'd love to see an active developer listed as default for circulation 14:25 sekjal gmcharlt: sure... but I couldn't list them off top of my head. will check 14:24 gmcharlt sekjal: hey, are there any bz components that you're willing to be default assignee for? 14:24 sekjal I'll link up the other bug reports that should be solved by it 14:24 sekjal okay 14:24 sekjal hehe 14:24 wizzyrea imma assign it to YOU ;) 14:24 sekjal thanks! 14:24 wizzyrea I'll add one 14:23 wizzyrea kk 14:23 sekjal but I don't think there is a central report yet, no 14:23 sekjal there are several that will be solved once my work is done 14:23 wizzyrea (I admit I haven't looked yet) 14:23 wizzyrea but there isn't a bug for that particular thing, right? 14:23 wizzyrea sekjal++ 14:23 sekjal SearchMember() is the standard everywhere else 14:22 sekjal Search() is only used that one place, and it seems pretty much broken 14:22 sekjal one of my recent projects is to unify the search logic between everywhere else in Koha, and the Patron search box in the members area 14:21 conan wait, I've still haven't checked submitted them 14:21 sekjal but I've got it working from searching with the checkout box 14:20 wizzyrea conan++ 14:20 jcamins conan++ 14:20 wizzyrea testing_plan++ 14:20 conan I've found 5 bugs and 1 possible enhancement already, and I'm still in the patrons page (!) 14:20 wizzyrea ty sekjal 14:20 wizzyrea kk I'll file a bug 14:20 sekjal wizzyrea: confirmed on current HEAD 14:20 wizzyrea yw :) 14:20 conan wizzyrea: thanks 14:20 * jcamins believes you that it's two words... he just never thought about it 14:20 conan wizzyrea++ 14:20 oleonard wizzyrea: I used to have a patron named Van Dyke that I could never look up 14:19 * wizzyrea doesn't question it anymore 14:19 oleonard wizzyrea, that's an issue we've had in the past but I thought it was fixed (over a year ago at least) 14:19 * jcamins never realized that name was two words. 14:18 wizzyrea but leigh ann hanson does not 14:18 wizzyrea searching for leigh hanson brings results 14:18 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6216] Search results pagination links broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6216> 14:18 wizzyrea as an example, a patron with a first name of "leigh ann" and a surname of "hanson" 14:18 wizzyrea has anyone complained about 3 part patron name searching? 14:09 wizzyrea yes I think I can manage it >.> 14:09 wizzyrea hehe 14:09 oleonard You can make the arrangements? I hear it's tricky. 14:08 wizzyrea i will post it 14:05 wizzyrea yea, it probably is 14:04 oleonard Useful for the wiki? 14:03 gmcharlt NEKLS++ 14:02 wizzyrea https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V0lhUp1c68FUYQ1pz2eJaaEZQ_byt2S9BpcKqbH8bkg/edit?hl=en&authkey=CLmb_lA 14:01 wizzyrea 1s 14:01 wizzyrea conan: I do, or I have what we use anyway 13:58 conan that's not a checklist :P 13:52 oleonard Everything :) 13:51 conan does anyone have a checklist of stuff to test on a new version? 13:49 * conan testing 3.04.00.000 13:15 kf hi conan 13:14 conan hi all 13:01 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6213] Koha News template error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6213> 12:33 chris_n oleonard: it was specifically marc_subfields_structure.tmpl that borked 12:26 kf hi gmcharlt and oleonard :) 12:26 kf hi NateC :) 12:25 oleonard chris_n: I'll take another look at that patch 12:24 NateC Hiya oleonard 12:23 oleonard Hi NateC, #koha 12:18 NateC morning #koha! 12:15 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6211] SubscriptionHistory doesn't have default value set <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6211> 12:13 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded. 12:13 chris_n @later tell oleonard I cannot seem to get the patch for 6114 to apply 12:08 gmcharlt good day 12:05 * chris_n puts on fresh coffee 12:04 chris_n oleonard about? 11:52 nengard Brooke_ I'd be useless on a boat ... head over the side kind of useless :) 11:22 * Brooke_ suspects that Koha could make a decent Boat team if given time... 11:20 nengard hello team 11:20 kf hi nengard :) 11:20 * Brooke_ waves to nengard 11:20 kf and good documentation of course 11:19 kf I say have a good default value but switches 11:19 Brooke_ and I'm not saying make them go away forever, I'm saying optimise. 11:19 kf undefined options? 11:19 Brooke_ I'd wager way less than the current lots and lots of undefined options. 11:19 JesseM Morning #Koha 11:19 kf if I understand your question 11:19 kf a lot 11:18 Brooke_ but how many articulations really are not that widely agreed upon across a Library class? 11:18 kf Brooke_: I am a bit fan of free decisions and not systems making assumptions about what I want :) 11:18 Brooke_ I realise this 11:17 kf Brooke_: some things you have to decide - there are often different ways to do things 11:17 Brooke_ this needs fixing 11:17 Brooke_ don't be sorry 11:16 * Brooke_ is trying to save out of box work for Librarians since there are already way too many damn toggles. 11:16 kf Cybermon: no :) it's ok - perhaps you should ask hdl 11:16 Cybermon okay. i will come back after 1 hour. sorry about it. 11:16 Brooke_ mebbe prompting instead of a long freggin drop down 11:16 kf it's your data 11:16 kf IP is not relevant 11:16 Brooke_ if it autodraws on IP it would be nicer. 11:16 kf hm 11:15 kf a configuration option for icu during install would be nice 11:15 Cybermon actually biblios records of MARC have two kind type. English and Mongolian Unicode. 11:15 kf I am not totally sure about this 11:14 kf and it's not about encoding, but about how many different unicode characters you want to use I think 11:13 Cybermon actually, we dont have lang field for MARC records. 11:13 Brooke_ one selects UNIMARC 11:13 kf and there are different advantages and disadvantages to both solutions 11:13 Brooke_ but presumably on install 11:13 kf and you have to change files for icu to make it work 11:13 kf because you will load data after you installed it 11:12 Brooke_ you have a MARC lang field. 11:12 Brooke_ why not 11:12 kf it' can't detect that 11:12 kf independent waht you searched for 11:12 Brooke_ I just wish it would work out of the box if it detected a different encoding 11:12 kf our experience was the result list contained everything with hebrew characters 11:12 Brooke_ cause I've noticed the behaviour you talk about 11:12 Brooke_ result 3 on that author really does, but I think it's gluing characters it oughtn't, and I think the shtuff you linked will help 11:11 kf Brooke_: do all your search results really match what you searched for? 11:11 * Brooke_ points out that her smart sister ought be doing this search, not her. 11:11 kf udn there is that: http://markmail.org/search/?q=icu+marc#query:icu%20marc+page:1+mid:piwqvrolx4p5hq4z+state:results 11:11 Brooke_ and I'm also not familiar with your catalogue, plus it is an ungodly hour, and I'm knackered. 11:10 Brooke_ I do get better ranking on БүндÑн 11:10 kf I have never configured it myself, but my coworker has for hebrew and that works fine 11:10 kf perhaps this can help you: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-display-search-result-problem-p28106148.html 11:10 Cybermon i see. 11:09 kf the normal way is limited when it comes to non-english characters 11:09 kf Cybermon: it's a different way to index data with zebra 11:07 Cybermon you mean search relevancy ? 11:06 Brooke_ which I think might be off. 11:06 Brooke_ to make sure the relevancy is ranked well 11:06 Brooke_ rangi knows the jiggerywhatser to flip 11:06 Brooke_ now I have to say I'd rather see it sort better 11:05 Brooke_ it retrieves for ПуÌшкин 11:03 Cybermon what can i do with ICU ? 11:02 Cybermon hm...anyone can be try: http://koha.pl.ub.gov.mn 11:01 kf s/thing/think 11:01 kf Cybermon: I really thing you need ICU to make that work 11:01 kf hm? 11:00 Cybermon Hi AmitG 10:59 * Brooke_ suspects that T:T thang Cait is wrasslin' with. 10:59 Cybermon OPAC search is good working for english biblios. i think only problem for mongolian. when i search mongolian than wrong results. 10:59 druthb hi, Amit. :) 10:58 Cybermon what should i do? 10:57 AmitG heya druthb, Cybermon 10:55 Cybermon my reindex looks good. but still not correct searching for mongolian. 10:52 * Brooke_ was wondering if Rangi or Wizzy had taught them Spudspeak... 10:52 druthb lol 10:52 Brooke_ don't tell the bots. 10:51 Brooke_ shhhh 10:51 druthb that's the way little kids often say "Exactly!" 10:51 Brooke_ wahanui: b'zacly? 10:51 huginn Brooke_: I suck 10:51 Brooke_ huginn: b'zacly? 10:50 Brooke_ b'zacly? 10:46 druthb b'zacly! 10:46 * Brooke_ ducks. 10:46 Brooke_ only cause ye say nice things about the Corps :P 10:46 druthb I considered it, back-when, but they wouldn't have me now, I don't imagine. :) 10:45 Brooke_ there is no such thing as too chirpy or too early there. 10:45 Brooke_ Have you considered a career in the Army? 10:45 Brooke_ 0/ 10:45 * druthb is *way* too chirpy for this hour of the day. 10:44 druthb kia ora, Brooke! :D 10:43 kf kia ora Brooke :) 10:43 Brooke_ kia ora! 10:35 kf but you shoudl always test once you have edit changes a template and added new fields 10:35 kf you can define the text under tools > notices 10:33 cirbic but here only is possible to write the email address 10:32 cirbic hdl: in administration there is a field "KohaAdminEmailAddress" 10:32 cirbic hdl: where is that option? 10:31 kf oh 10:31 magnuse thanks kf! time for a bit of holiday now. will be dropping by occasionally ;-) 10:30 kf ah, ignore me 10:30 kf uhoh 10:30 hdl cirbic: kohaAdminEmailAdress system preference 10:30 hdl kohaAdminEmailAdress system preference 10:29 kf magnuse++ for good testing! 10:28 kf hi druthb :) 10:27 druthb o/ 10:27 cirbic It´s possible to change that? 10:27 cirbic kohaadmin@yoursite.org 10:27 cirbic Koha Administrator 10:27 cirbic another question, when the patrons receive mail with patrons account details, there is a predefinied text: "Thank you, 10:26 hdl check the messagequeue table to 10:24 cirbic There must be an error somewhere because I still dont receive mail 10:18 hdl Should be queued now 10:18 hdl process_messagequeue.pl service will send the email 10:16 cirbic receive mail 10:16 cirbic and I dont recevie mail 10:16 cirbic but it´s enabled 10:16 cirbic I found it on Circulation Preferences 10:14 cirbic I´m trying to find it 10:14 cirbic hdl: where is that option? 10:13 hdl cirbic: there has been a syspref on that EmailLibrarianWhenHoldPlaced iirc 10:12 ibeardslee ... on my test/prod server to ... 10:11 cirbic should I receive an email advising me that patron want to make a hold? 10:11 ibeardslee rangi: ta, might just try the git install on my to start with 10:11 cirbic should be sent an email to the Koha admin? 10:11 cirbic but if a patron make a hold 10:11 cirbic all is ok 10:11 cirbic and He received the mail 10:11 cirbic I create a new patron 10:11 cirbic and I activated the option: "send email to new patrons to their email address" 10:10 cirbic I´ve added my email address 10:10 cirbic one question about admin email address 10:10 rangi but if you want to submit some patches, a git install is probably easiest :) 10:10 Cybermon i think that i needed clarify that how many biblios indexed via zebra. because, some mongolian biblio records well working via search OPAC 10:09 rangi ibeardslee: i had it running on my workstation under lucid, seemed pretty solid 10:08 Cybermon i see 10:08 hdl Cybermon: feel free to reopen a zebraHowto page on the wiki. 10:06 Cybermon i see 10:06 hdl Cybermon: do this in a yaz-client console 10:06 Cybermon hdl: what does mean Z> ? 10:05 magnuse hi cirbic 10:05 ibeardslee rangi: you'd accept that those ubuntu lucid repo are sane? 10:05 hdl hi cirbic 10:05 cirbic greetings from spain 10:05 cirbic hello everybody 10:05 magnuse well, i actually did try to add via the catalogue yesterday, without trouble 10:04 hdl http://librarypolice.com/wiki.koha.org/zebraprogrammerguide.html 10:04 magnuse rangi: didn't get that far, i'll try 10:04 hdl i bet it was there on the old wiki 10:04 Cybermon hdl: no result 10:04 hdl Cybermon: http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/querymodel-rpn.html 10:03 rangi magnuse: just trying to narrow it down to if its just bulkmarcimport that has teh issue 10:03 rangi magnuse: and if you try via the stage marc records? 10:02 rangi it works ok eh? 10:02 hdl Cybermon: search for IR-Explain-1 on wiki.koha-community.org 10:02 rangi if you add one via the catalogue 10:02 rangi i dont, but ill ask gmcharlt to look too 10:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 10:01 magnuse rangi, hdl: any thoughts on bug 5579? i might be logging off for the looong norwegian holiday soon... 10:01 rangi ibeardslee: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages#Dependencies 10:01 * ibeardslee was looking at the INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid 10:01 Cybermon how can i see that how many biblios indexed via zebra ? 10:01 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_Up_Koha_in_Virtual_Environment_%2B_Using_That_as_a_Development_Environment#Step:_Install_Koha 10:00 rangi yep 10:00 Cybermon hi all. 10:00 ibeardslee rangi: using lucid 10:00 ibeardslee .. materal family motto is "I forget not" 10:00 rangi ibeardslee: option c is use the packages 09:59 magnuse nice try 09:59 wahanui magnuse: sorry... 09:59 magnuse wahanui: forgive everything 09:59 hdl ah... wahanui forgets nothing... Does he forgive anything ? 09:59 magnuse ibeardslee: depends on how you want to use your installation 09:58 hdl !a 09:58 ibeardslee ahh 09:58 hdl because i am a developper 09:58 wahanui magnuse: I forgot nothing 09:58 magnuse wahanui: forget nothing 09:58 ibeardslee why? 09:58 hdl ibeardslee: I would go with git though... But I am biased 09:57 wahanui it has been said that nothing is as stressful as school 09:57 hdl nothing. 09:57 ibeardslee what can go wrong either way? 09:57 ibeardslee so .. should getting koha? option A via git or option B via download 09:44 kf ok, next ticket... 09:43 magnuse yay 09:43 kf or I hope so 09:43 kf hah, solved it! 09:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 09:42 magnuse bug 5579 updated 09:35 magnuse hdl: i'll put it in bugzilla 09:35 rangi but update the bug so she can make sure to test it 09:35 rangi wizzyrea was doing some testing too 09:35 hdl magnuse: can you detail ? 09:34 magnuse yup, still a problem 09:32 kf rangi: I will not say no 09:32 rangi ahh yeah thats more like it :) 09:32 magnuse lemme double check 09:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml 09:31 magnuse i was think of bug 5579 09:31 rangi cos that looks like a tiny one 09:30 rangi you mean 5799 ? 09:30 rangi k 09:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5799 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, language inconsistency 09:29 magnuse hm, i'm afraid i found a problem with bug 5799 - i'll write it up in bugzilla 09:25 rangi horizon? 09:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit 09:24 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 5917 : Testing fixing utf8 for preferences po file 09:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #205: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/205/ 09:22 kf :P 09:16 * magnuse fears the roar of kf even if he is not to blame 09:15 kf h...-- 09:15 kf not you 09:15 kf no 09:15 * magnuse hides 09:15 kf grrr 09:10 rangi i think amzari might have some linux ones already 09:10 * magnuse is terrible with names 09:10 magnuse oh sorry, mixing them up 09:10 rangi im sure we can :) 09:10 rangi i cant remember if we had convinced amzari 09:09 rangi farasat was 09:09 magnuse he was going home to convince people to use linux and 3.x, wasn't he? 09:09 rangi cos they will get further and further behind otherwsie 09:09 rangi we'll have to fix that for him someday 09:08 magnuse a ha 09:08 magnuse i was justin thinking about him when 2.2.9 was mentioned... 09:08 rangi mykoha.org is his 09:08 magnuse yup 09:08 rangi remember amzari from kohacon? 09:08 magnuse hehe 09:08 kf oh 09:08 rangi so mykoha.org is quite cool 09:07 kf or co.nz 09:07 kf mykoha.com 09:07 rangi .my is malaysia 09:07 rangi its quite smart 09:06 magnuse mykoha.org? 09:03 rangi im afraid there is no help for that 09:03 rangi 2.2.9 on windows 09:03 rangi hehe 08:58 kf ok 08:57 rangi it seems to work ok here 08:57 rangi wait til you test it first 08:57 kf rangi: you are awesome! :) 08:57 kf rangi++ 08:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab44e3009ae0ea6f44169755a05c5dc6aded61ac> / Bug 5917 : Testing fixing utf8 for preferences po file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e6ee930c8896a32ff3d51e73e6d63aad1671a30> 08:44 jenkins_koha Starting build 205 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:31 magnuse paul_p: this table shows average number of sun hours in bod� over several decades: http://metlex.met.no/wiki/Soltid - 8.1 hours in january and 0.4 in december - but i live on the north side of a mountain which blocks the sun for 3 or 4 months of the year... 08:30 rangi right ill check the preferences 08:30 kf not sure about staff and don't have the file here :( 08:30 kf my opac file was ok 08:27 rangi the opac and intranet ones are ok? 08:27 rangi sorry preferences 08:27 rangi and its just the .pref eh? 08:26 rangi ill go check what is happening with the update 08:26 rangi thanks 08:26 kf rangi: in pootle's pref file umlauts show ok 08:21 magnuse paul_p: yes that will be fine, everyone is off on holiday from right about now anyway! ;-) and best wishes for a speedy recovery to clrh 08:17 paul_p magnuse, clrh is ill, and not working this week. So the evaluation for ILL-no project will wait for next week. Is it OK for you ? 07:58 magnuse paul_p: that just might make sense... ;-) 07:57 paul_p magnuse, you have so many holidays because of your weather: it's so depressing to have no sun for 5 months :D :D 07:56 magnuse bad timing! 07:55 rangi and ANZAC day 07:55 rangi its easter monday 07:55 rangi so we lose 07:55 rangi monday is 2 holidays in one for us this year 07:55 magnuse yeah! 07:55 rangi magnuse wins 07:55 magnuse half of today and all of thursday, friday and monday are holidays here ;-) 07:52 kf here too 07:49 rangi ahh friday and monday are holiday here 07:45 * magnuse has gremlins in his test installations... 07:44 magnuse wow, that's quite a combo! ;-) 07:43 paul_p magnuse, yep ;-) (beef meat) 07:43 paul_p in France it's holy friday, but it's not holiday (monday is holiday. Probably to retrieve from sunday excessive drinking ;-) ) 07:43 magnuse paul_p: orange, sugar, honey - and meat? 07:43 rangi i will have to visit again, for frog legs! 07:43 paul_p rangi, right. 07:43 magnuse in norway it's "long friday" ;-) 07:43 rangi that was my opinion 07:42 rangi they taste like chewy garlic :) 07:42 paul_p I like a lot frog legs, I don't like escargots (I eat them when my mother in law does, but just to be polite ;-) ) 07:42 magnuse and they were edible! 07:42 rangi a piece of trivia, in NZ we call it Good Friday 07:41 rangi had escargot tho :) 07:41 rangi ahh i didnt have those 07:41 paul_p rangi, just FYI, magnuse & kf, during the hackfest have tested ... frog legs ... 07:41 paul_p (not that good for the taste though. Not that bad too) 07:40 paul_p rangi, definetly yes I think 07:40 rangi good for rugby eh? 07:40 paul_p magnuse, look http://www.musculine.fr/Naturel-ccbaaaaaa.asp & ggl translate 07:40 magnuse paul_p: that certainly looked energetic in the picture! ;-) 07:40 rangi *nod* 07:39 fredericd I'm just asking 07:39 paul_p fredericd, I don't see why it wouldn't be (and I speak as a member of the catholic church here) 07:39 rangi :) 07:39 rangi fredericd: if i release nz time, it will still be thursday for you 07:39 paul_p rangi & magnuse : i'm a member of the community producing this : http://www.musculine.fr/ Frankly, i'm not sure it's a gift I would give to one of you (and i'm not sure it would pass the NZ barrier :D :D) 07:38 rangi I think so, we have a multi national, multi religion community 07:38 fredericd holy 07:38 fredericd Is it appropriate to release 3.4 Holly Friday? 07:38 rangi and bread too 07:38 * magnuse didn't either 07:37 kf rangi: no I didn't! 07:36 rangi its very good too 07:36 rangi kf: did you know kristina makes chocolate 07:36 magnuse http://www.holyspiritmonasterygifts.com/Fudge/departments/5/ ;-) 07:36 * kf must sadly confess that she doesn't know beer or chocolate making monks 07:34 rangi ahh was continuing with my beer making thought :) 07:33 paul_p or chocolate making monks => I missed something probably 07:33 magnuse let's hope so! 07:33 rangi (do they exist?) 07:33 magnuse ooh even better (for me) 07:33 rangi those would be good too :) 07:33 rangi or chocolate making monks 07:33 magnuse yay! 07:32 rangi paul_p: ive been saving the wines you gave me, will open then tomorrow (as friday is a holiday) to celebrate 3.4.0 07:32 magnuse rangi: perhaps there are some close to kf? 07:32 * magnuse would like to have one of those shirts! 07:32 paul_p lol :D 07:32 rangi we need some of the ones who brew beer :) 07:30 kf seems a lot to me 07:30 kf me knows about 3 monks that have worked on koha so far 07:30 AmitG heya kf 07:30 kf hehe 07:30 AmitG heya paul_p 07:30 paul_p ;-) 07:30 rangi ;-) 07:30 rangi Koha: We have monks doing our security 07:29 rangi paul_p: we should ask Frere Sebastian if we can make tshirts 07:26 rangi yep 07:26 paul_p deeply hidden bug, I agree... 07:26 rangi etc 07:26 rangi so it was a lot of them, suddenly the opac was no longer public 07:26 rangi exactly 07:26 paul_p got it 07:26 rangi the syspref didnt exist 07:26 paul_p ah, OK! and with the 3.2 syspref system, you don't notice it ! 07:26 rangi no it didnt even get that far 07:25 rangi it wasnt set 07:25 paul_p ? 07:25 paul_p 135 INSERT INTO `systempreferences` (variable,value,explanation,options,type) VALUES('yuipath','local','Insérer le chemin pour les outils yahoo. Mettez local si vous n''êtes pas connecté en permanence à l''internet',"local|http://yui.yahooapis.com/2.5.1/build",'Choice'); 07:25 paul_p is there something wrong here: 07:25 paul_p strange, because by default, it seems to be "local", and I switched to local again to speed up a lot.. 07:24 paul_p rangi, does it mean the yuipath was wrong because of this problem too ? 07:24 rangi yep 07:24 paul_p rangi, webinstaller you mean ? 07:24 rangi but it was quite hidden 07:24 rangi ahh there was when i ran it 07:23 paul_p wow ! There are no warnings during setup... (like a mySQL insert failed) 07:23 rangi l'OPAC not l\'OPAC 07:23 rangi unescaped ' 07:22 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=79c23e224ffe2da49b03a47d32e32d4a3330c898 07:22 paul_p rangi, some details ? 07:22 rangi i found the problem with the french install .. it had been there for a while! 07:22 rangi hi paul_p 07:21 kf bonjour paul_p 07:20 magnuse bonjour paul_p 07:19 * paul_p repaired his bike this morning... hard job... 07:19 paul_p hello world 07:18 rangi cool let me know 07:18 kf have to deal with some horizon issues first today, but will do this next 07:17 rangi cos once they are broken you can't unbreak them 07:17 kf yes 07:17 rangi but need to know if they were ok first 07:17 rangi right ill look into it 07:15 magnuse hola miguelxercode 07:10 kf rangi: can try to do that a little later. but the updated files were wrong. 07:09 kf rangi: no, poedit shows them wrong - I haven't checked the files from pootle before updating them 07:09 kf hi hdl 07:09 kf back :) 07:09 hdl hi all 07:08 julian hello magnuse & #koha 07:08 magnuse bonjour hdl 07:08 sophie_m hello #koha 07:08 francharb hello all 07:08 francharb hi magnuse 07:07 sophie_m hello magnuse 07:07 magnuse bonjour sophie_m julian & francharb 07:06 Brooke_ I yield. Knackered. 06:59 magnuse hm, i still have the same problem with deleting items, even after "git checkout origin/new/bug_6207" 06:50 eythian hmm, so hitting logout on the staff client first asks if I want to empty my cart. That's wierd. Probably need to upgrade this koha. 06:46 magnuse burning the midnight oil? 06:45 Brooke_ :) 06:45 magnuse kia ora Brooke_ 06:44 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 06:44 rangi @later tell kf are they ok in poedit? 06:44 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 06:44 rangi @later tell kf, are they ok in poedit? 06:44 Brooke_ kia ora 06:44 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 06:44 rangi @later tell kf those were generated from the old system, I haven't uploaded anything to pootle 06:43 magnuse nengard++ # for the awesome screencasts 06:41 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 06:41 rangi @later tell cait umm those were generated with the old system 06:41 cait bye all 06:40 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 06:40 cait @later tell rangi: umlauts in updated pref file are broken in pootle 06:37 Nouman any one help me 06:37 Nouman I am installing koha via packages 06:37 Nouman hi all 06:36 * cait still has about 13000 words in staff :( 06:35 cait rangi fixed a lot the last few days 06:35 cait there are worse things 06:34 fredericd yes, and this is the most crowded syspref tab 06:34 cait I wondered why I had to redo those 06:33 cait fredericd: hm, that explains it 06:32 magnuse cait: sorry, i drifted off... 06:29 fredericd as a consequence, all translation of those syspref are lost! 06:28 fredericd .pref file for Enhanced Content has been renamed from enhanced-content.pref to enhanced_content.pref in 3.4 06:23 cait hi alex_a :) 06:18 alex_a hi cait 06:18 alex_a hello #koha 06:16 cait I have the sys pref activated but my buttons stays disabled even after confirmed the alert 06:15 cait and does overriding a hold work for you? 06:13 cait magnuse: does search to hold work for you on master? 06:13 cait m 06:13 cait h 06:09 cait god morgen magnus 06:09 magnuse kia ora #koha 05:51 eythian quite 05:51 cait busy :) 05:50 eythian naw, want to finish something here, then go home to meet a possible flatmate, and then go back into town to catch a movie. 05:49 cait and you? no dinner? 05:49 eythian hi :) 05:49 cait and hi eythian 05:49 cait ok :) 05:48 eythian he's probably having dinner or something 05:48 cait hm. 05:48 cait or better not upload it? 05:44 cait no pressure, only asking :) 05:42 cait rangi: do you plan to look at the trailing spaces? because if you do I will wait before uploading the new file to pootle? 05:39 cait today = yesterday 05:39 rangi heh 05:39 cait started to test acq today - but when you can't spend money it's a bit hard :) 05:39 rangi np 05:39 cait thx for 6208 rangi :) 05:38 cait looking through the mail now 05:37 cait hehe 05:35 rangi even if it did start with a meeting 05:35 rangi was a good day 05:35 cait and uber efficient people probably get more sleep! 05:35 cait you did a lot of things while I was sleeping 05:34 cait :) 05:34 rangi that one 05:34 rangi heh thanks jenkins 05:34 rangi that was my big find 05:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5897 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Hide name of reviewer / comment writer in OPAC 05:34 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Fixing bug in the french sys pref file, duplicate sys prefs plus l'OPAC not l\'OPAC 05:34 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 5897 - Hide name of comment writer in OPAC 05:34 cait do you see a problem uploading that to pootle? 05:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #204: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/204/ 05:34 rangi I found a bug that was breaking installing in french 05:34 cait fredericd: I updated my file with the translation scripts 05:33 cait but it always does 05:33 rangi even more yay 05:33 cait will need some more tinkering while testing things 05:33 cait and my tests yesterday with the updated file looked good 05:33 rangi yay! 05:33 cait yes, it IS done 05:33 cait ah 05:32 rangi just saying only german opac is close to done 05:32 * cait is confused 05:32 cait huh? 05:32 rangi umlaut on the u cait? 05:31 rangi yeah except our uber effecient cait :) 05:31 fredericd yes, that make sense. Not that much work have been done on translation till now 05:30 rangi to give the translators more time 05:30 rangi but I am going to recommend that ppl using other languages wait for 3.4.1 05:29 rangi if possible 05:29 fredericd so with translations inclusion? 05:29 rangi april 22 05:29 rangi friday 05:28 fredericd When exactly 3.4 release is due? 05:28 fredericd It's a nice functionnality. Pootle is a good tool but somewhat bugy 05:28 rangi heya from the bus 05:26 cait I told people if they feel not sure about something they can add a suggestion... so they did 05:26 cait thx fredericd 05:24 fredericd yes, I have to take another look 05:23 fredericd This is a Pootle bug... 05:22 cait fredericd: could you perhaps take another look on pootle's permissions? some people have added suggestions but I can't do anything about them :( 05:22 cait hi fredericd 05:21 Brooke_ bonjour 05:21 wahanui hello, fredericd 05:21 fredericd hi 05:18 hdl salvete Brooke_ hope you get better. 05:16 cait hm? 05:16 Brooke_ odd might pan out to good later, though. 05:16 Brooke_ odd. 05:15 cait Brooke_: gut, und dir? 05:08 Brooke_ wie geht's? 05:06 cait hi Brooke_ :) 05:06 Brooke_ guten tag 05:06 cait good morning #koha 05:06 Brooke_ :) 05:00 rangi ok time for a bus ride home 04:54 jenkins_koha Starting build 204 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 04:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit 04:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6184 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, MARC21 Plugin for 007 broken 04:54 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5917 : Fixes for innerhtml -> innerHTML 04:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6202 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, no serials info showing 04:54 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6184 : Plugin for 007 broken 04:54 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6202 : Fix for showing subscription details 04:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #203: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/203/ 04:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing bug in the french sys pref file, duplicate sys prefs plus l'OPAC not l\'OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=79c23e224ffe2da49b03a47d32e32d4a3330c898> 04:52 huginn space_librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (4:00 PM NZST on April 20, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 04:52 space_librarian @wunder Wellington, NZ 04:51 kmkale rangi++ 04:49 rangi [off] new test tarball for download at http://stats.workbuffer.org/koha-3.04.00.000.tar.gz 04:49 space_librarian It is, isn't it? 04:49 Brooke_ ooooh that's a good one :D 04:48 space_librarian hey 04:48 kmkale :) 04:48 wahanui hmmm... space_librarian is a Koha poet 04:48 AmitG heya space_librarian 04:48 space_librarian gah 04:48 huginn space_librarian: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error 04:48 space_librarian @weather Wellington 04:48 AmitG heya rangi 04:48 kmkale next 4 months are the worst for Mumbai. Summer then Monsoon :( 04:48 huginn AmitG: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 28.0�C (10:00 AM IST on April 20, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 04:47 AmitG @weather New Delhi 04:47 Brooke_ 0/ 04:47 AmitG heya Brooke_ 04:47 huginn AmitG: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 21.0�C (8:30 AM IST on April 20, 2011). Conditions: . Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa. 04:47 AmitG @weather Dehradun 04:47 Brooke_ need heat to make the elephants grow :) 04:47 huginn AmitG: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 23.0�C (8:30 AM IST on April 20, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. 04:47 kmkale hi AmitG 04:47 AmitG @weather Bangalore 04:47 AmitG heya kmkale 04:47 huginn kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0�C (9:40 AM IST on April 20, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 04:47 kmkale @weather Mumbai 04:45 space_librarian That's no fun 04:45 kmkale I know it won't. Have to travel about 120km to a upcoming engineering college site. And its burning hot out there :( 04:44 space_librarian Here's hoping it stays that way 04:43 kmkale space_librarian: yes so far.. 04:43 rangi hi kmkale 04:43 kmkale hi rangi 04:43 space_librarian hey kmkale, good morning so far? 04:43 rangi i think its been broken for a long time 04:43 rangi hdl: l'OPAC instead of l\'OPAC ... thats what broke it :) 04:43 kmkale hi space_librarian :) 04:43 space_librarian namaste kmkale 04:41 kmkale Namaskar #koha 04:25 rangi thats why paul was getting the wrong setting for yuipath 04:25 rangi it only loaded 75 sysprefs then bailed out 04:25 rangi finally figured out what the error is when installing koha in french 04:25 rangi ERROR 2005 (HY000) at line 89: Unknown MySQL server host 'HTML' (1) 04:25 rangi unimarc_standard_systemprefs.sql 04:24 rangi ah ha!! 04:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5897' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=925f7c7da975d4777b3dd5d2892305bf857dac74> / Follow-up fix for Bug 5897 - Hide name of comment writer in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc9daa0a5e40067aa41989b7ecc70d35ca00326c> 04:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 203 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 04:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce739ac6eaca2c22b099f2a2e75043279dbe4bd6> / Bug 5917 : Fixes for innerhtml -> innerHTML <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=24f830d6c1b30882d6a2fd623cfdf53fee01931a> / Bug 6184 : Plugin for 007 broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bc0db4e7c8 04:10 Oak \o 03:59 Brooke_ cheers 03:59 mib-renae bye 03:59 mib-renae im starting to see it everywhere 03:58 Brooke_ many a spurious / or ; was put to the firing squad after a rested eye :) 03:58 mib-renae been doing this all day and im stuffed 03:58 Brooke_ coffee breaks are the lightbulb to roachy bugs 03:58 wizzy_home food and coffee will help 03:57 mib-renae i will try again and then i think i need a break for a while i can't cope with much more at the moment need coffee and food so i will try again latter if i can 03:56 Brooke_ shouldn't, but do. 03:56 Brooke_ strange things can happen with packet gnomes 03:56 Brooke_ every now and then it doesn't mate to the domain properly 03:56 Brooke_ from time to time, I had to type a numeric in the address 03:54 Brooke_ http://koha-community.org/ 03:54 mib-renae tried it both ways 03:54 wizzy_home are you typing in the http:// in front of it? 03:54 mib-renae its doing the same server not found the koha one just keeps taking me to the koha hockey site 03:46 mib-renae ok 03:46 eythian it doesn't matter 03:45 mib-renae well i didn't get it where is it 03:45 mib-renae ok 03:45 eythian the log for this channel 03:45 mib-renae before i do that what log did u send me 03:44 mib-renae ok 03:44 eythian right, and try http://koha and http://kohaadmin 03:43 mib-renae ok goes to cgi-bin/koha main says sys maiten 03:43 * eythian tags in Brooke_ 03:43 Brooke_ :) 03:43 space_librarian kia ora! 03:42 Brooke_ kia ora 03:41 mib-renae ok 03:41 eythian or at least, results that will tell us something 03:40 eythian I'm expecting different results 03:40 mib-renae i tried it before but i will try it again 03:40 eythian What happens when you browse to http://127.0.0.1 on your koha machine 03:39 wizzy_home i'm kind of out of ideas :/ 03:39 mib-renae what exactly do u want to know 03:39 eythian yes. 03:38 mib-renae ok im comfused 03:38 eythian wahanui: tell mib-renae about yourself 03:37 wahanui version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 03:37 wizzy_home version control using git? 03:37 eythian wahanui: tell us about yourself 03:37 wizzy_home he does fun things like 03:37 wahanui yes, wizzy_home? 03:37 wizzy_home wahanui? 03:37 wizzy_home wahanui is a learning bot 03:37 mib-renae r u talking to me 03:36 mib-renae 19 03:35 wahanui the paste is, like, found at http://paste.koha-community.org 03:35 mib-renae the paste 03:35 eythian you could check the log that I sent you a half hour ago to see what you've missed. 03:35 mib-renae anyone there 03:34 mib-renae have they gone 03:34 mib-renae what have i missed 03:33 mib-renae sorry mib just went off 03:33 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6202] no serials info showing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6202> 03:29 eythian try browsing to http://127.0.0.1 again 03:29 AmitG heya chris 03:29 renae i haven't changed anything accept what u all told me to do 03:28 eythian then that doesn't make sense. Unless you went and changed your hosts file, it should not be saying 'server not found' 03:27 renae yes 03:27 wizzy_home when you tried it were you? 03:27 eythian did you do this on the koha computer? 03:27 renae not right now no 03:27 eythian are you on the Koha computer? 03:26 renae yes it says server not found at kohaadmin 03:25 renae hangon let me check that again 03:25 eythian previously it was going into maintenance mode 03:24 eythian you've changed something you're doing 03:24 eythian server not found is a different error to what you described before 03:24 eythian wait 03:24 renae both 03:24 renae yes 03:24 wizzy_home for http://kohaadmin? 03:24 renae done, it still says server not found 03:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6208 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, Not possible to add funds to budgets 03:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6203 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, can't plan for serials 03:23 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6208 : Cant add funds to a budget 03:23 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6203 : Fix for numbering pattern not showing 03:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #202: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/202/ 03:20 renae ok 03:19 eythian sudo apache2ctl restart 03:19 wizzy_home renae: restart your apache now please 03:19 space_librarian wizzy_home: I know. I love it. 03:19 eythian wizzy_home: the hunting of the snerk? 03:18 wizzy_home renae: looks good 03:18 eythian renae: that is correct 03:18 wizzy_home snerk = best laugh word ever 03:18 eythian Sorry. Just the way it is. 03:18 pastebot0 "renae" at 218.215.30.198 pasted "this is my file" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/20 03:17 wizzy_home hrmph. 03:17 eythian ICP doesn't count. 03:17 eythian I have Tristania playing now. That's good for today. 03:17 * space_librarian snerks 03:17 wizzy_home that may not qualify. 03:17 wizzy_home wait 03:17 * wizzy_home goes straight for ICP 03:17 wizzy_home *nod* 03:16 space_librarian wizzy_home: forewarned is forearmed... 03:16 space_librarian I know. Any suggestions? 03:16 wizzy_home it's not wednesday yet here. >.> 03:16 eythian that's what the LAN is for. 03:15 space_librarian Right. Time to find some death metal. 03:15 eythian Just so everyone knows, it's Death Metal Wednesday today. Make sure you're participating! 03:06 eythian one is correct, one is not 03:06 eythian there's a servername line, and an assign user id line, but they're two different lines. 03:06 eythian actually, what you wrote doesn't make sense. There is no servername assign user id line 03:05 renae ok 03:05 wizzy_home look at the paste 03:05 renae shit 03:05 wizzy_home no 03:05 renae did i get the right line 03:04 renae i changed the 8080 on the intranet line to *80 and the servername assign user id line to kohaadmin is that correct 03:04 renae ok thanks 03:03 eythian at the bottom of that 03:03 eythian http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-04-20 03:03 wizzy_home http://paste.koha-community.org/19 03:02 renae can i get the paste address again 03:02 renae im sorry my pc dropped out and i lost what u said 02:50 wizzy_home renae: basically, if it doesn't look like that paste that I just sent, it's wrong. That is the exact contents that should be in your koha file. 02:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6208 : Cant add funds to a budget <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=26e7237046b89dd433ffe68b8a2ffe7acfbb4f1e> / Bug 6203 : Fix for numbering pattern not showing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1779c0616481b18c46c4a2f0f03e8d83c5a54c99> 02:47 wizzy_home that's how it should look 02:47 eythian renae: your file should end up looking like the one that wizzy_home just pasted 02:46 pastebot0 "wizzyrea" at 76.250.251.171 pasted "correct looking koha file" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/19 02:45 renae ok im going to print this bit so i get it right 02:45 eythian that's right 02:45 renae just the words not the apostraphe 02:44 eythian these must be exact 02:44 eythian where it says 'koha:8080' a few lines below that, change it to 'kohaadmin' 02:44 jenkins_koha Starting build 202 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:44 eythian Where it says '*:8080' about half way down, change that to be '*:80' 02:44 renae thats all 02:43 renae ok 02:43 eythian sudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha 02:43 renae ok 02:43 eythian to set it up the way it should have been done. 02:43 renae unable to load pages check comp network conn 02:42 eythian OK. You need to edit the apache config file. 02:42 renae temp unavailable 02:42 renae ok it says unable to connect firefox cant estab con to server 8080 02:38 renae ok 02:38 wizzy_home everything in the quotes, (but not the quotes!) "http://koha:8080" 02:38 renae ok try again 02:37 eythian then you're not typing it right 02:37 renae is that right 02:37 renae well it just keeps going into google and searching 02:35 renae ok 02:35 wizzy_home yep 02:35 renae u mean me 02:34 wizzy_home please 02:34 wizzy_home http://koha:8080/ in your address bar 02:34 eythian we saw 02:34 eythian I assume that some of the other steps weren't followed correctly, and so it ended up configured differently to normal 02:34 renae ok i have pasted 02:33 eythian yes, that 02:33 wizzy_home http://koha:8080 in your address bar 02:33 wizzy_home try 02:33 wizzy_home oh oh 02:33 wizzy_home OH 02:33 pastebot0 "renae" at 218.215.26.136 pasted "kohaadmin access" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18 02:27 renae ok will do that now 02:27 eythian and select all, copy, and paste it in to that site. 02:27 eythian that one 02:27 eythian sudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha 02:27 eythian err not that 02:27 eythian sudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha 02:26 eythian the contents of the koha file. 02:26 renae what contents would u like 02:26 eythian yes 02:26 renae just the koha 02:25 eythian paste the contents of it into here: http://paste.koha-community.org/ 02:25 eythian I don't know what's broken 02:25 renae and can it be fixed 02:25 renae well what should it be 02:25 wizzy_home :) 02:25 wizzy_home what he said. 02:25 wizzy_home that file is the file that defines the apache configuration for your site 02:24 eythian because that's the configuration for your koha site. 02:24 renae well why does it say koha 02:24 eythian I was hoping there'd be something else in there that was causing it. 02:24 eythian I don't know because I don't know what the problem is now. 02:23 renae is it fixable 02:23 eythian well, it means my theory is wrong 02:23 renae no just koha 02:23 eythian are you sure? It didn't say '000-default' or anything else? 02:23 renae oh no is that bad 02:22 eythian oh? that's dissapointing. 02:22 renae ok it just come up with koha 02:20 eythian (in case anyone else is interested, I think the problem is that there's an apache config file from the earlier attempt to make it work that's overriding the virtualhosted one.) 02:19 eythian what is the output? 02:18 renae ok 02:17 eythian yes 02:17 renae so u want me to type in that comand and give u the output 02:16 eythian into a terminal 02:16 eythian or, use IRC from your koha pc so that you can 02:16 wahanui wizzy_home: I forgot this 02:16 wizzy_home wahanui: forget this 02:16 wahanui this is old 02:16 renae where is this 02:16 eythian well then type it in here exactly right 02:16 renae i cant im on a diff pc 02:15 eythian paste the output of 'ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled' in here 02:15 renae it is the same message as before 02:13 eythian it'll give an message, what that message is is the important bit. 02:13 eythian No. I want to see what your webserver does when asked to go somewhere that shouldn't be set up 02:13 renae ok will try that now 02:13 wizzy_home no, type in the address bar of your browser http://127.0.0.1 02:13 renae i did change the 127.0.0.1 line to include the koha and kohaadmin is that what u r looking for 02:12 eythian you should use IRC from that, it makes more sense 02:12 renae ok i need to go to the pc with koha 02:12 eythian yes, it will be 02:11 renae i put in sudo apache2 ctl restart but it was stillthe same 02:11 eythian try going to http://127.0.0.1 and tell me what happens 02:10 renae yes 02:10 eythian You are trying this on the computer that has koha on it? 02:10 eythian why that isn't working for you I don't know. 02:10 eythian yes. It's actually offline because you need to run the installer, which should be done by going to http://kohaadmin 02:10 mtj yep, that is expected, for the OPAC side 02:10 renae to do with apache it think 02:09 renae for sys maintenance 02:09 renae it is saying the cat is offline 02:09 eythian That maintmode thing is exactly what I'd expect to see if you were accessing the opac side, and not the admin side. 02:09 renae tried both 02:09 mtj http://kohaadmin ? 02:09 mtj using what url? 02:08 renae well at the moment im just trying to get onto kohaadmin to get it up and running 02:08 mtj i havent used the Koha packages yet, so i wont be much help at this stage 02:07 renae oh will they be back later 02:06 mtj renae: the catalyst people may be in a meeting now 02:05 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6203] can't plan for serials <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6203> 02:05 renae hello anyone 02:03 renae u there 02:01 renae i tried both 02:00 renae ok that it is still not working it goes into cgi-bin/koha/maintenance.pl and the message is 'the koha online cat is offline for sys main well be back soon!' 01:50 eythian and tell us exactly what the maintenance message says. 01:50 renae ok 01:50 eythian yes 01:49 renae u want me to put in the sudo apache command 01:47 renae yes restarting webserver apache 2 waiting 01:46 rangi sudo apache2ctl restart 01:46 renae hang i need to check 01:46 rangi maybe restart apache2 01:46 eythian and what, exactly, does the message say? 01:45 renae yes 01:45 eythian especially, did you try the kohaadmin one 01:45 renae yes 01:45 eythian did you try both URLs? 01:45 renae ok did that and it is still the same 01:41 eythian yes 01:41 renae ok so i put that command in then try again 01:41 wizzy_home < didn't know that, cool. 01:40 eythian it starts up in maint mode by default 01:40 renae ok 01:40 eythian in the terminal on the koha machine 01:40 eythian renae: sudo koha-enable koha 01:40 renae is it a problem with my pc or do i just hve to wait till it is online again 01:39 renae the same thing as the other one 01:38 wizzy_home you'll need to run through the web installer. 01:38 renae ok 01:38 wizzy_home try the other URL 01:37 wizzy_home renae: that's probably the opac 01:36 renae says it is down for sys main 01:36 conan byw all 01:36 conan tar.gz dl finished, I'm going to bed too 01:36 conan bye 01:36 tcohen byeeeee 01:36 tcohen will chat tomorrow on that stuff 01:36 tcohen oops, i hope you leave that soon :-D 01:35 conan I don't know yet all the stuff they use here, they use plenty of stuff, today I met isismarc 01:35 tcohen good night for those in my tz, see you later to the rest 01:35 conan nice 01:34 tcohen at least that ica stuff will take me to europe soon, hopefully to roland garros too :-D 01:34 wizzy_home woohoo 01:34 renae see sys admin 01:34 renae ok i got into koha catalog but it says it if offline 01:34 tcohen I think UNCuyo uses it 01:33 tcohen its an archival software 01:33 conan what's ica-atom? 01:33 eythian that's a good sounding reason to drink alright 01:33 tcohen i wanted to free that memory buffer from my brain 01:32 tcohen i was pissed today as i have to work on ica-atom for several days from now on 01:32 tcohen i'll send the patch tomorrow at work 01:32 tcohen several lines, i'll rephrase some explaining lines too 01:31 rangi (and its signed off again ;)) 01:31 rangi it'll go into master, once 3.4 is branched 01:30 conan which line? 01:30 tcohen its ok, we can still use it in production here :-D 01:30 tcohen it was the syntax of search.pref 01:30 conan too late I guess 01:29 tcohen yeap, but it is scheduled for 3.6 01:29 conan jeje 01:29 tcohen just downloaded the latest Fringe chapter 01:29 conan did you fixed it? 01:29 conan tcohen: you should be sleeping! 01:26 wizzyrea_away that would also tell us for sure that networking is working on the server ;) 01:25 eythian You should use the same compouter for setting it up as for talking on, that way you can copy and paste. 01:24 renae im going to run over and do that and come back 01:24 renae ok 01:24 eythian the same as for editing the files that you did yesterday 01:23 eythian sudo gedit /etc/hosts 01:23 renae so i go to terminal and what do i type to get to the file 01:23 eythian and then save the file, close the editor 01:23 eythian and put at the end of that line " koha kohaadmin" 01:22 eythian in the file, look for the line that starts with 127.0.0.1 01:22 eythian yes 01:22 renae in gedit 01:21 eythian OK. On the one with Koha on it, you need to edit the file called '/etc/hosts' 01:21 renae i clicked on the link in the wiki file 01:21 renae ok it says server not found 01:17 renae ok well i will go and try again i am on my faster pc at the moment then i can get the exact problem 01:16 conan renae: let's try that one for now, to not complicate things 01:16 eythian we need to know that in order to see why it's not working 01:16 eythian renae: what happens when you try? 01:16 conan copy& paste the url you're trying to access here 01:16 renae can i do it on another pc or does it have to be the one with koha on it 01:15 conan renae: what address are you trying? 01:15 wahanui wizzyrea_away: I forgot other one 01:15 wizzyrea_away wahanui: forget the other one 01:14 eythian you need to tell us what happens 01:14 wahanui somebody said the other one was old and wrong tho, so not having it, isnt a bad thing 01:14 renae and the other one 01:14 renae kohaadmin 01:14 renae where do i go to in the web browser as i tried the address given and it wont come up 01:13 renae i did try to do it the long way and it was mind boggling 01:13 wizzyrea_away mm yea not helping 01:13 rangi yeah not helping 01:13 mtj ie: not use the Koha packages 01:12 eythian mtj: shh 01:12 mtj i reckon renae should learn to install Koha the long way, as a learning exercise... 01:12 eythian firefox 01:12 renae what web browser 01:11 renae what do i do next 01:10 wahanui wizzyrea_away: I forgot the 01:10 wizzyrea_away wahanui: forget the 01:10 eythian google is not a web browser, it's a search engine company. 01:10 wahanui somebody said the was a branch I pushed on Wednesday lemme find it 01:10 renae the what 01:10 renae ok 01:10 renae like google 01:10 eythian You log in to your computer using a normal user account 01:09 eythian you need to log in to your computer and use a web browser 01:09 eythian No 01:08 renae under my ubuntu loggin 01:08 renae where there is a pic of a little person and then it says koha instance koha-koha 01:08 renae i have been loggin on at the very first loggin when u first turn on the computer the ubuntu loggin is that correct 01:08 renae im not sure if it is there 01:08 renae i think i might be logging in the wrong place on the wiki install it the last line says i should be able to see something at http://kohadmin/ and http://koha/ from my desktop what would that be 01:03 renae hi back again 01:01 rangi ah yeah, the old stop typing things and cut and paste 01:01 eythian rangi: a bit late now, but it would actually be koha_koha 00:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5791 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Robust handling of deleted biblios/authorities 00:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5671 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED, Add a column of custom HTML to "my summary" 00:54 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 5791 - Robust handling of deleted/non-existent biblios and authority records 00:54 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 5671 Links on My Summary - followup patch 00:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #201: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/201/ 00:45 rangi doesnt need to be -devel too 00:45 rangi that release one should be just on koha 00:45 conan you're the boss :P 00:44 rangi yep 00:44 conan yeah, but worst is our developers are encouraging it by answering to both lists 00:44 rangi i think thats ok 00:44 rangi i cross post things like release announcements 00:44 rangi if you know its wrong... dont do it!! 00:44 rangi it especially annoys me when someone cross posts and apologises 00:43 rangi yeah i tried to discourage it 00:43 conan and with cross posted answers! 00:42 conan shouldn't we discourage cross posting on list? I've seen too many cross posts lately 00:41 rangi web based irc clients, bad wrong and evil 00:41 rangi yup 00:40 conan he's gone 00:40 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_Up_Koha_in_Virtual_Environment_%2B_Using_That_as_a_Development_Environment#Step:_Install_Koha 00:40 conan ah 00:40 rangi it will be whatever name he used when creating the instance 00:40 rangi conan: he is using the packages 00:40 conan rangi: isn't default user 'kohaadmin' ? not koha-koha 00:39 rangi you must have typed instance at some point, the browser remembers what people typed last time 00:38 rangi yes 00:38 rangi if you cant type in the username box, your web browser is broken, which isnt a koha problem 00:38 mib_renae ok i will try that then put the password in 00:37 rangi its just a webbrowser 00:37 rangi delete it 00:37 mib_renae it comes up automatically in the loggin 00:36 rangi just dont type it when you are logging in 00:36 mib_renae i cant remove it 00:36 mib_renae no it is in the actual user name 00:35 eythian just don't type it when you're trying to log in. 00:35 rangi hmmm 00:35 mib_renae or do i need to fix it 00:35 mib_renae can i fix it 00:35 mib_renae i thought it was odd 00:35 mib_renae well it is there 00:34 eythian it shouldn't be 00:34 mib_renae but the word instance is in the login 00:34 mib_renae just says koha-koha the word instance is not thee 00:32 rangi no the username you are logging in with, is that the one in the file too 00:32 mib_renae no 00:32 mib_renae instance koha-koha 00:31 wahanui user is logged in already eh? 00:31 rangi what user? 00:31 mib_renae didn't like either of them 00:31 mib_renae there was only 2 passwords and i tried both 00:31 rangi the one at the bottom of the file? 00:30 mib_renae i got the password from the list u told me to do 00:30 rangi well then you are using the wrong password 00:30 mib_renae it wont let me in at all to do anything it say authentication failed 00:29 rangi you should only ever log in with that password during install/upgrades as soon as it is installed you should make a staff user and login with that 00:28 mib_renae how do i change the password 00:26 mib_renae hello need some help with password on koha 00:14 jenkins_koha Starting build 201 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:12 Waylon whereas it should of been third to last? 00:12 Waylon does seem strange... in a search resulting in 8 records... a-z, slot 3 record, becomes the last record in z-a 00:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5791 - Robust handling of deleted/non-existent biblios and authority records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36e3bed7b1a58eff6b07b5ed882bd4c2bd179a66> / Bug 5671 Links on My Summary - followup patch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e970b513c2a0e49ef0a7c1ccd092f9e9c5b6e04d>