Time  Nick         Message
23:59 SteveJ       *glares at druthb*
23:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 191 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:58 rangi        monday here
23:58 druthb       o/
23:58 SteveJ       I know that feeling. Someone was kind enough to set up my Koha test environment on a Sunday morning, so here I am on Sunday working away.
23:57 rangi        not much, just working away
23:55 SteveJ       Hey. Whats up?
23:53 rangi        hi SteveJ
23:53 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e86e23ea1846bf26f1ebf75fd834faa896eb9e9> / Bug 5917 : Trimming leading spaces - Please test it seems to work ok <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5574c350d4d7c53bc082e3939e1116432dd5f0b6> / Bug 5917 : More tweaks to the translation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k
23:38 jcamins_away Example?
23:38 jcamins_away Waylon: maybe.
23:25 Waylon       jcamins: you able to identify a properly sorted list of author names?
23:08 jcamins_away I've never used Koha with it.
23:08 jcamins_away I'm familiar with Arabic, but I'm inclined to doubt that I'd be able to help you at all.
22:52 Waylon       problem, seems a page is sorted properly by name... until x number of pages, then it gets mixed.
22:42 Waylon       hiya all. Anyone familar with Arabic?
21:45 cait         bye all!
21:45 cait         time to sleep for me
21:45 cait         thx rangi
21:42 cait         ok :)
21:42 cait         not updated
21:42 rangi        yep
21:42 cait         ok, only to make sure we are talking about the same thing: I am using the files from pootle
21:41 rangi        yeah thats the %s stuff
21:40 cait         same on the patron summary page: hello katrin fischer (click here...)
21:40 cait         and it says: welcome katrin fischer on top
21:40 cait         there are some more thing in patron account
21:39 cait         ok
21:39 rangi        l
21:39 rangi        probably to do with this multi line thing, working on that stil
21:38 cait         rangi: remaining: lists on start page does not get translated. but I see the string in the po file, not sure why not
21:38 rangi        cool
21:38 cait         rangi: cart problem solved :)
21:20 cait         pootle--
21:17 jcamins      It uses too much memory.
21:17 cait         why?
21:17 cait         java?
21:16 * cait       sends jcamins cookies
21:15 jcamins      java--
21:14 cait         testing if that fixes my cart problem now
21:13 rangi        thanks
21:13 rangi        right
21:12 cait         double quotes
21:12 cait         var MSG_ADD_TAG_FAILED_NOTE = _("Achtung: Sie können für einen Titel das selbe Tag nur einmal verwenden. Unter "Meine Tags" finden Sie die von Ihnen verwendeten Tags.");
21:12 cait         firebug++
21:12 cait         rangi: found the problem :)
21:10 jcamins      docbook--
21:09 rangi        right
21:09 cait         lists button is one of the things that doesn not seem to get translated correctly
21:05 rangi        right
21:04 cait         rangi: only files from pootle break cart button
20:44 rangi        is run it through a validatpr
20:44 jcamins      But LaTeX + RTL languages = :( Jared
20:43 rangi        what we should do
20:43 rangi        its xml ... theres 8 zillion ways to do it
20:43 rangi        that works too, there are plenty of xslt transforms from docbook to latex
20:42 * jcamins    resists the urge to go the LaTeX route.
20:42 rangi        yeah that would be the way i reckon
20:42 jcamins      http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/1.0/index.html
20:41 cait         FOP?
20:40 jcamins      Yeah, I guess I'll figure out how to use FOP.
20:40 rangi        theres a few ways to do it, you xsltproc etc
20:39 jcamins      It uses docbook2html.
20:39 jcamins      Darn.
20:36 rangi        yup
20:36 jcamins      Completely different set of scripts.
20:35 jcamins      Ah, yes, I found it.
20:34 jcamins      I didn't think she was.
20:33 jcamins      Hm.
20:33 rangi        jcamins: can't even remember, its the same way liz does it for the koha site tho
20:33 cait         I checked the code for differences and couldn't really see a reason, but I know the cart buttion is javascript
20:33 rangi        cait: that should spot it, i bet its a missing '
20:33 cait         I had to run out before I could do more testing
20:33 jcamins      rangi: how did you generate the manual PDF, then?
20:33 cait         sure :)
20:33 rangi        jcamins: i dont anymore
20:33 rangi        cait: do you have firebug?
20:32 cait         but didn't see it in the code
20:32 cait         I think so too
20:32 cait         jcamins: yep
20:32 jcamins      rangi: how do you generate the manual PDF?
20:32 jcamins      cait: the cart but disappearing is probably the result of a javascript error.
20:23 rangi        thanks
20:23 cait         I think not, but I will retest to make sure
20:23 rangi        does it make the cart button come back?
20:23 rangi        if you update, then install
20:23 cait         I will test a bit more with pootles files
20:22 cait         cool
20:21 rangi        ill have a look into why its stripping placeholders and breaking it into many lines
20:21 rangi        yep
20:21 cait         but would be good to get that working with pootle's files too
20:20 rangi        yeah
20:20 rangi        intersting
20:20 cait         I don't see in the code why the button doesn't show up
20:20 cait         I installed french with git's templates - that worked too
20:20 cait         I used the one from pootle
20:20 cait         hm
20:19 rangi        but i was using the .po file out of git
20:19 rangi        hmm cos the opac was showing the cart button for me
20:19 cait         staff is too big and not finished yet
20:19 cait         I finished opac and started testing with that
20:19 rangi        in staff? or opac?
20:19 cait         and some strings don't get translated
20:18 cait         like the cart button is missing once I install german
20:18 rangi        while we work on why it breaks that up
20:18 cait         yes... but I have some problems
20:18 rangi        because it seems to apply ok eh?
20:18 rangi        ah, so what i recommend is, use the one from the old templates
20:18 cait         3 strings
20:18 cait         )
20:18 cait         (
20:18 cait         what will get something like hold places for
20:18 cait         say you have: hold placed for %s %s (%s)
20:17 cait         that makes translation harder but also creates a lot of new strings
20:17 cait         it strips all place holders out and breaks strings into a lot of pieces
20:17 cait         one thing is, that when you update a translation from pootle a lot of things have to be retranslated
20:17 cait         I didn't figure out most of it
20:15 rangi        oh?
20:14 cait         rangi: I ran into some problems with translation
20:14 cait         morning rangi
20:12 jwagner      morning/afternoon/timezone of your choice :-)
20:12 rangi        morning
17:55 chris_n2     several fatalties on the other side of town, though
17:55 jwagner      Hope no people or animals were in it
17:55 chris_n2     we lost a barn on my parent's property
17:55 chris_n2     jwagner: pretty much
17:53 chris_n2     this is the monster that came over our location http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71u-HqJGHgI
17:53 jwagner      chris_n2, everything OK where you live?
17:51 jcamins      Yikes.
17:51 chris_n2     lowe's store about 30 mins from here: http://www.reuters.com/article/slideshow/idUSTRE73G1PG20110417#a=1
17:47 chris_n2     :(
17:47 chris_n2     NC death toll stands at 23 so far
17:13 jwagner      Now that we have our Other Item Status feature, I hope to get this one redone someday to work through that instead of shelving location. But at the time it was the best we could do.
17:12 jwagner      See Bugs 3481, 3701, 6034
17:12 jcamins      I see.
17:12 jwagner      When an item is set to either In Processing or Shelving Cart, the "real" shelving location gets copied to that field.  Then it's brought back when the item comes out of those statuses
17:11 jcamins      jwagner: so when's it supposed to be set?
17:11 jwagner      jcamins, it's part of our In Processing/Shelving Cart feature
17:09 jcamins      What's permanent_location for?
17:06 jwagner      mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
17:05 druthb       ooo...cookies...
16:03 jwagner      I made the dough yesterday as part of my ignore-the-weather-do-other-things activities
16:02 * jcamins    considers baking cookies.
15:59 * jwagner    taunts druthb with the aroma of baking cookies :-)
13:29 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.6�C (3:30 PM CEST on April 17, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady).
13:29 cait         @wunder Konstanz
13:16 cait         hi
13:16 jcamins      Hello.
13:07 druthb       o/
12:13 jcamins      Good morning, #koha
10:23 Brooke_      should be Koha, but hey.
10:23 Brooke_      http://www.lianza.org.nz/vacancies/senior-application-support-specialist-library-systems-national-library-nz
09:58 adnc         danke
09:53 cait         expandedSearchOption
09:53 cait         AdvancedSearchTypes ist das eine
09:49 adnc         nach was sollte ich da suchen?
09:49 cait         schau mal unter search
09:49 cait         und man kann einstellen, ob die suchmaske mit mehr oder weniger optionen voreingestellt ist
09:49 cait         man kann einstellen ob entweder die sammlung oder die medientypen angeboten werden
09:48 cait         auf deutsch
09:48 cait         oh
09:48 cait         try a search for advanced in system parameters
09:47 adnc         when searching in the opac the categories are shown. i saw on other libraries that this is not shown. is there a switch that enables searching in all categories
09:46 cait         or perhaps just someone translated something that was not supposed to be..
09:46 cait         lol
09:43 Brooke_      *duck*
09:43 Brooke_      clearly the cart was manufactured in England and poorly engineered
09:43 Brooke_      d'oh
09:41 cait         changing to german kills my cart button in opac
09:41 cait         hm, that's not good
09:25 cait         0 = 0% rabatt
09:24 cait         im benutzertyp ist ein rabatt auf die leihgebühr hinterlegt
09:24 adnc         stimmt, da steht es auch drinnen. was ist dann, wenn im benutzertyp auch was hinterlegt ist? addiert sich das
09:22 cait         da die gebühr rausnehmen
09:22 cait         administration > medientyp
09:22 cait         ah
09:22 adnc         cait, ich verleihe bücher für 5 euro, dabei will ich gar kein geld und hab das auch koha gesagt
09:18 adnc         hi
09:18 cait         hi adnc :)
09:15 Brooke_      0/
09:11 adnc         hello #koha
09:04 Brooke_      woot, success!
09:03 cait         :)
09:03 cait         hm, this cake is yummy
08:53 Brooke_      *nod*
08:52 cait         high school?
08:52 Brooke_      the thingamabobber before Uni
08:51 Brooke_      forget the German for it
08:51 Brooke_      hrm
08:51 cait         hs?
08:49 Brooke_      but hs sealed the deal
08:49 Brooke_      since me swing set was under a sour cherry
08:49 Brooke_      well, prolly before that
08:49 * Brooke_    is a sucker for cherries since Italian in HS.
08:47 cait         I am baking cherry and blueberry cake right now :)
08:47 cait         aha
08:47 Brooke_      http://lesttheybelost.blogspot.com/2011/04/carrot-cake.html
08:47 cait         ?
08:47 Brooke_      carrot cake has been released!
08:46 cait         kia ora Brooke_
08:44 Brooke_      kia ora!
06:39 cait         hi #koha