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06:39 cait hi #koha
08:44 Brooke_ kia ora!
08:46 cait kia ora Brooke_
08:47 Brooke_ carrot cake has been released!
08:47 cait ?
08:47 Brooke_ http://lesttheybelost.blogspot.com/2011/04/carrot-cake.html
08:47 cait aha
08:47 cait I am baking cherry and blueberry cake right now :)
08:49 * Brooke_ is a sucker for cherries since Italian in HS.
08:49 Brooke_ well, prolly before that
08:49 Brooke_ since me swing set was under a sour cherry
08:49 Brooke_ but hs sealed the deal
08:51 cait hs?
08:51 Brooke_ hrm
08:51 Brooke_ forget the German for it
08:52 Brooke_ the thingamabobber before Uni
08:52 cait high school?
08:53 Brooke_ *nod*
09:03 cait hm, this cake is yummy
09:03 cait :)
09:04 Brooke_ woot, success!
09:11 adnc hello #koha
09:15 Brooke_ 0/
09:18 cait hi adnc :)
09:18 adnc hi
09:22 adnc cait, ich verleihe bücher für 5 euro, dabei will ich gar kein geld und hab das auch koha gesagt
09:22 cait ah
09:22 cait administration > medientyp
09:22 cait da die gebühr rausnehmen
09:24 adnc stimmt, da steht es auch drinnen. was ist dann, wenn im benutzertyp auch was hinterlegt ist? addiert sich das
09:24 cait im benutzertyp ist ein rabatt auf die leihgebühr hinterlegt
09:25 cait 0 = 0% rabatt
09:41 cait hm, that's not good
09:41 cait changing to german kills my cart button in opac
09:43 Brooke_ d'oh
09:43 Brooke_ clearly the cart was manufactured in England and poorly engineered
09:43 Brooke_ *duck*
09:46 cait lol
09:46 cait or perhaps just someone translated something that was not supposed to be..
09:47 adnc when searching in the opac the categories are shown. i saw on other libraries that this is not shown. is there a switch that enables searching in all categories
09:48 cait try a search for advanced in system parameters
09:48 cait oh
09:48 cait auf deutsch
09:49 cait man kann einstellen ob entweder die sammlung oder die medientypen angeboten werden
09:49 cait und man kann einstellen, ob die suchmaske mit mehr oder weniger optionen voreingestellt ist
09:49 cait schau mal unter search
09:49 adnc nach was sollte ich da suchen?
09:53 cait AdvancedSearchTypes ist das eine
09:53 cait expandedSearchOption
09:58 adnc danke
10:23 Brooke_ http://www.lianza.org.nz/vacancies/senior-application-support-specialist-library-systems-national-library-nz
10:23 Brooke_ should be Koha, but hey.
12:13 jcamins Good morning, #koha
13:07 druthb o/
13:16 jcamins Hello.
13:16 cait hi
13:29 cait @wunder Konstanz
13:29 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.6�C (3:30 PM CEST on April 17, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady).
15:59 * jwagner taunts druthb with the aroma of baking cookies :-)
16:02 * jcamins considers baking cookies.
16:03 jwagner I made the dough yesterday as part of my ignore-the-weather-do-other-things activities
17:05 druthb ooo...cookies...
17:06 jwagner mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
17:09 jcamins What's permanent_location for?
17:11 jwagner jcamins, it's part of our In Processing/Shelving Cart feature
17:11 jcamins jwagner: so when's it supposed to be set?
17:12 jwagner When an item is set to either In Processing or Shelving Cart, the "real" shelving location gets copied to that field. Then it's brought back when the item comes out of those statuses
17:12 jcamins I see.
17:12 jwagner See Bugs 3481, 3701, 6034
17:13 jwagner Now that we have our Other Item Status feature, I hope to get this one redone someday to work through that instead of shelving location. But at the time it was the best we could do.
17:47 chris_n2 NC death toll stands at 23 so far
17:47 chris_n2 :(
17:51 chris_n2 lowe's store about 30 mins from here: http://www.reuters.com/article/slideshow/idUSTRE73G1PG20110417#a=1
17:51 jcamins Yikes.
17:53 jwagner chris_n2, everything OK where you live?
17:53 chris_n2 this is the monster that came over our location http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71u-HqJGHgI
17:55 chris_n2 jwagner: pretty much
17:55 chris_n2 we lost a barn on my parent's property
17:55 jwagner Hope no people or animals were in it
17:55 chris_n2 several fatalties on the other side of town, though
20:12 rangi morning
20:12 jwagner morning/afternoon/timezone of your choice :-)
20:14 cait morning rangi
20:14 cait rangi: I ran into some problems with translation
20:15 rangi oh?
20:17 cait I didn't figure out most of it
20:17 cait one thing is, that when you update a translation from pootle a lot of things have to be retranslated
20:17 cait it strips all place holders out and breaks strings into a lot of pieces
20:17 cait that makes translation harder but also creates a lot of new strings
20:18 cait say you have: hold placed for %s %s (%s)
20:18 cait what will get something like hold places for
20:18 cait (
20:18 cait )
20:18 cait 3 strings
20:18 rangi ah, so what i recommend is, use the one from the old templates
20:18 rangi because it seems to apply ok eh?
20:18 cait yes... but I have some problems
20:18 rangi while we work on why it breaks that up
20:18 cait like the cart button is missing once I install german
20:19 cait and some strings don't get translated
20:19 rangi in staff? or opac?
20:19 cait I finished opac and started testing with that
20:19 cait staff is too big and not finished yet
20:19 rangi hmm cos the opac was showing the cart button for me
20:19 rangi but i was using the .po file out of git
20:20 cait hm
20:20 cait I used the one from pootle
20:20 cait I installed french with git's templates - that worked too
20:20 cait I don't see in the code why the button doesn't show up
20:20 rangi intersting
20:20 rangi yeah
20:21 cait but would be good to get that working with pootle's files too
20:21 rangi yep
20:21 rangi ill have a look into why its stripping placeholders and breaking it into many lines
20:22 cait cool
20:23 cait I will test a bit more with pootles files
20:23 rangi if you update, then install
20:23 rangi does it make the cart button come back?
20:23 cait I think not, but I will retest to make sure
20:23 rangi thanks
20:32 jcamins cait: the cart but disappearing is probably the result of a javascript error.
20:32 jcamins rangi: how do you generate the manual PDF?
20:32 cait jcamins: yep
20:32 cait I think so too
20:32 cait but didn't see it in the code
20:33 rangi cait: do you have firebug?
20:33 rangi jcamins: i dont anymore
20:33 cait sure :)
20:33 jcamins rangi: how did you generate the manual PDF, then?
20:33 cait I had to run out before I could do more testing
20:33 rangi cait: that should spot it, i bet its a missing '
20:33 cait I checked the code for differences and couldn't really see a reason, but I know the cart buttion is javascript
20:33 rangi jcamins: can't even remember, its the same way liz does it for the koha site tho
20:33 jcamins Hm.
20:34 jcamins I didn't think she was.
20:35 jcamins Ah, yes, I found it.
20:36 jcamins Completely different set of scripts.
20:36 rangi yup
20:39 jcamins Darn.
20:39 jcamins It uses docbook2html.
20:40 rangi theres a few ways to do it, you xsltproc etc
20:40 jcamins Yeah, I guess I'll figure out how to use FOP.
20:41 cait FOP?
20:42 jcamins http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/1.0/index.html
20:42 rangi yeah that would be the way i reckon
20:42 * jcamins resists the urge to go the LaTeX route.
20:43 rangi that works too, there are plenty of xslt transforms from docbook to latex
20:43 rangi its xml ... theres 8 zillion ways to do it
20:43 rangi what we should do
20:44 jcamins But LaTeX + RTL languages = :( Jared
20:44 rangi is run it through a validatpr
21:04 cait rangi: only files from pootle break cart button
21:05 rangi right
21:09 cait lists button is one of the things that doesn not seem to get translated correctly
21:09 rangi right
21:10 jcamins docbook--
21:12 cait rangi: found the problem :)
21:12 cait firebug++
21:12 cait var MSG_ADD_TAG_FAILED_NOTE = _("Achtung: Sie können für einen Titel das selbe Tag nur einmal verwenden. Unter "Meine Tags" finden Sie die von Ihnen verwendeten Tags.");
21:12 cait double quotes
21:13 rangi right
21:13 rangi thanks
21:14 cait testing if that fixes my cart problem now
21:15 jcamins java--
21:16 * cait sends jcamins cookies
21:17 cait java?
21:17 cait why?
21:17 jcamins It uses too much memory.
21:20 cait pootle--
21:38 cait rangi: cart problem solved :)
21:38 rangi cool
21:38 cait rangi: remaining: lists on start page does not get translated. but I see the string in the po file, not sure why not
21:39 rangi probably to do with this multi line thing, working on that stil
21:39 rangi l
21:39 cait ok
21:40 cait there are some more thing in patron account
21:40 cait and it says: welcome katrin fischer on top
21:40 cait same on the patron summary page: hello katrin fischer (click here...)
21:41 rangi yeah thats the %s stuff
21:42 cait ok, only to make sure we are talking about the same thing: I am using the files from pootle
21:42 rangi yep
21:42 cait not updated
21:42 cait ok :)
21:45 cait thx rangi
21:45 cait time to sleep for me
21:45 cait bye all!
22:42 Waylon hiya all. Anyone familar with Arabic?
22:52 Waylon problem, seems a page is sorted properly by name... until x number of pages, then it gets mixed.
23:08 jcamins_away I'm familiar with Arabic, but I'm inclined to doubt that I'd be able to help you at all.
23:08 jcamins_away I've never used Koha with it.
23:25 Waylon jcamins: you able to identify a properly sorted list of author names?
23:38 jcamins_away Waylon: maybe.
23:38 jcamins_away Example?
23:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e86e23ea1846bf26f1ebf75fd834faa896eb9e9> / Bug 5917 : Trimming leading spaces - Please test it seems to work ok <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5574c350d4d7c53bc082e3939e1116432dd5f0b6> / Bug 5917 : More tweaks to the translation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k
23:53 rangi hi SteveJ
23:55 SteveJ Hey. Whats up?
23:57 rangi not much, just working away
23:58 SteveJ I know that feeling. Someone was kind enough to set up my Koha test environment on a Sunday morning, so here I am on Sunday working away.
23:58 druthb o/
23:58 rangi monday here
23:59 jenkins_koha Starting build 191 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:59 SteveJ *glares at druthb*