Time  Nick            Message
00:00 mtj             would help with zebra loop freq. tuning , etc
00:08 chris_n         rangi: is jenkins server down?
00:08 rangi           doenst look like it
00:09 rangi           http://jenkins.koha-community.org/
00:09 chris_n         ahh... he's moved off of bugs:8080
00:09 rangi           yep
00:10 chris_n         that's what I get for not paying attention :P
00:11 chris_n         !jenkins_koha build koha_3.2.x now
00:11 jenkins_koha    chris_n did you mean me? Unknown command '_koha'
00:11 jenkins_koha    Use !jenkinshelp to get help!
00:11 chris_n         !jenkins build koha_3.2.x now
00:11 jenkins_koha    chris_n: job koha_3.2.x build scheduled now
00:11 jenkins_koha    Starting build 7 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: FIXED)
00:11 * chris_n       agrees that he needs help
00:16 chris_n         505 commits since 3.2.0
00:16 rangi           hi wizzyrea
00:16 rangi           yowza
00:16 wizzyrea        hi
00:16 chris_n         what's this Guest663 stuff?
00:17 wizzyrea        jut kick it
00:17 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5693 : Follow up patch, escaping HTML in limit_cgi so "" dont break hrefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0cb0d1deb82a78a8b3db511e6c25785d5244b122>
00:17 wizzyrea        its my computer at work
00:18 chris_n         hi wizzyrea
00:18 wizzyrea        hi
00:18 chris_n         46 commit since 3.2.5
00:18 mtj             heya folks
00:19 chris_n         howdy mtj
00:29 chris_n         798 commits to master since 3.2.0
00:45 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.2.x build #7: SUCCESS in 34 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/7/
00:45 jenkins_koha    Chris Cormack: Bug 5693 : Follow up patch, escaping HTML in limit_cgi so "" dont break hrefs
00:45 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5693 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, reed, REOPENED, if parentheses used in ccode then searches against ccode fail
00:45 rangi           cool thanks chris_n
01:31 rangi           heya ronald
01:32 eythian         ronald: hi there.
02:20 wizzyrea        ooo wiki updates!
02:43 rangi           http://launion.gov.ph/news.php?item.213.2
02:43 rangi           ohh cool stuff in the philipines
02:53 jenkins_koha    Starting build 43 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:57 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_3659' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=76d52d89e4b5a25454a65198e50f2fe0475566bd> / Fix for Bug 3659, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=251e2c4d748db6808a1e47ba986e374b14f29918>
03:08 kmkale          Namaskar #koha
03:08 druthb          hi, kmkale.
03:08 space_librarian Namaste kmkale
03:08 kmkale          hi druthb
03:08 kmkale          hi space_librarian
03:13 kmkale          hi cait
03:14 cait            hi kmkale
03:22 bg              heya
03:23 wizzyrea        heya bg
03:23 bg              hey wizzyrea
03:23 wahanui         i guess wizzyrea is a mom
03:24 wizzyrea        wahanui: forget wizzyrea
03:24 wahanui         wizzyrea: I forgot wizzyrea
03:27 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #43: SUCCESS in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/43/
03:27 jenkins_koha    Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3659, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab
03:27 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3659 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab
04:08 rangi           back from the bus
04:08 * cait          waves to rangi
04:09 rangi           hiya cait
04:26 cait            bus time
05:15 brendan_        @seen amit
05:15 huginn          brendan_: amit was last seen in #koha 6 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 15 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <Amit> heya fredericd
06:00 rangi           hmmm yeah where is amit
07:16 magnuse         hola miguelxercode
08:09 kmkale          we have 16 about registrations
08:19 magnuse         yay!
08:20 magnuse         hope there will be a few more, though... ;-)
08:28 kmkale          its just a few days.
08:28 kmkale          lots more to go
08:29 kmkale          :)
08:29 kmkale          not worried about attendance
08:29 kmkale          its speakers we need
08:44 paul_p          16 registrations ? only 17984 to go to win your challenge :D :D
08:44 magnuse         speakers will come along too, i think
08:44 magnuse         what's the challenge?
08:45 paul_p          magnuse, in NZ 4 million ppl, 50attendess, in India 1.2billion => 18k attendees expected :D
08:45 rangi           there were more than 50 in nz
08:45 paul_p          s/50/60/ in NZ
08:45 rangi           or were you just counting the nzers?
08:45 paul_p          rangi, yep, only nzers.
08:45 rangi           there were 87 on the first day
08:46 rangi           personally i think you dont want much more than 200 people, or you have to run tracks
08:46 rangi           parallel tracks, and those suck imho
08:46 rangi           because you always end up with clashes
08:47 magnuse         yeah, and you need lots more speakers...
08:47 paul_p          rangi, we spoke of this last week, and it seems we can do up to 4 tracks of 200ppl. That would be HUGE of course. But India IS huge, so ...
08:48 paul_p          the suggestion being to have repeated tracks, like 10 speakers, 4 rooms, each speaker speaks 3 times.
08:48 rangi           yes, but then every person is going to a different conference
08:48 rangi           and speaking three times ... with the same content ...
08:49 francharb       hello all
08:51 magnuse         i think i would prefer bigger audiences to lots of tracks...
08:54 kmkale          I had made some suggestions about sessions and tracks in reply to jo's email.
08:54 kmkale          was kinda hoping to start some discussion there but :(
08:58 * rangi         still has about 400 emails to read
08:59 magnuse         ouch
09:06 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5750: (MT #4095) add exact matching filter for categorycode and branchcode fields... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b61eadf50633d68d7e18fe44ee3a558d19254dc> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_3495' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e98195b1014f9b0680be9d6ea9e8e8132821158> / Bug 3495: Fast bib record add at circulation <http://git.koha-co
09:08 jenkins_koha    Starting build 44 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:10 rangi           @quote random
09:10 huginn          rangi: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 06:58 PM, September 17, 2009)
09:15 magnuse         hehe
09:38 kmkale          @quote 1
09:38 huginn          kmkale: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
09:38 wahanui         i already had it that way, huginn.
09:39 kmkale          @quote 2
09:39 huginn          kmkale: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
09:39 wahanui         i already had it that way, huginn.
09:39 magnuse         @quote 102
09:39 huginn          magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
09:39 wahanui         i already had it that way, huginn.
09:41 magnuse         @quote get 102
09:41 huginn          magnuse: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
09:42 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #44: SUCCESS in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/44/
09:42 jenkins_koha    * Chris Nighswonger: Bug 5865 - Labels wrap incorrectly when paper width is greater than height
09:42 jenkins_koha    * Katrin Fischer: Bug 3495: Fast bib record add at circulation
09:42 jenkins_koha    * Stéphane Delaune: Bug 5750: (MT #4095) add exact matching filter for categorycode and branchcode fields in search members's result
09:42 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5865 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, Labels wrap incorrectly when paper width is greater than height
09:42 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3495 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, RESOLVED FIXED, Fast bib record add at circulation
09:42 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5750 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Add exact matching filter for categorycode and branchcode fields in search members's result
09:42 magnuse         yay
09:45 rangi           must be time for sleep
09:48 magnuse         sleep tight, rangi!
10:52 kmkale          I have an unusual request for calculating patrons renewal period from date of expiry rather than today
11:35 jcamins         Good morning, #koha
12:10 JesseM          Good morning #Koha
12:10 oleonard        Hi JesseM and everyone else too
12:14 nengard         hi all
12:16 magnuse         hiya folks!
12:33 tcohen          hi oleonard
12:48 fcapo           Anybody knows if the "HOLD" notice can be sent somehow? Can't seem to find a way to have it sent when holds are available for pickup.
12:57 nengard         fcapo the option is on each patron record if you have EnhancedMessaging enabled
12:57 nengard         http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=c18#EnhancedMessagingPreferences
12:58 nengard         http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x6330#existingnotices
12:59 fcapo           I only see the option Hold Filled. There is no option to send messages for available holds.
12:59 nengard         that is the same thing
12:59 nengard         when a hold is filled it's available for pickup
13:00 fcapo           ok... got confused there. I'll try activating emails for "Hold filled". Thank you.
13:08 jcamins         Does anyone know what the story is with bug 5595? A fix was pushed, right?
13:08 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5595 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, can't search 'searchable' patron attributes
13:22 jcamins         oleonard: around?
13:22 oleonard        Yes
13:22 jcamins         What's the status of bug 3659?
13:22 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3659 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab
13:23 nengard         jcamins it was pushed last night
13:23 nengard         just wrote it up in the manual
13:23 oleonard        was it pushed to master?
13:23 nengard         yes
13:23 nengard         i'm headed to teach a webinar - be back later
13:23 jcamins         Oh. Heh.
13:23 jcamins         Cool.
13:24 * oleonard      is still mostly in Drupalworld
13:29 oleonard        Note that the feature lacks control over the time til expiration for the cookie
13:29 oleonard        It had been suggested that this be a system preference, but I never got to that part
13:48 tcohen          oleonard: i've sent patches for bug 5791 following your suggestions
13:48 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5791 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Robust handling of deleted biblios/authorities
13:49 tcohen          if you have other suggestions, they are welcome
13:49 oleonard        Thanks tcohen
13:52 tcohen          oleonard: on bug 3274
13:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3274 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Holiday exceptions radio button in 'Edit Holiday' not working
13:52 tcohen          i've used onsubmit inline
13:53 tcohen          do you prefer I use a listener function as in the prev bug i commented?
13:53 tcohen          onsubmit="if ($('#barcode').val() == '') {return printx_window('qslip')}"
13:53 oleonard        tcohen: I don't think it's necessary to go back and correct it
13:54 tcohen          ok
13:54 oleonard        I prefer the listener option if it's practical, but I'm not fanatical about it
13:54 tcohen          thanks oleonard
14:01 fredericd       In Serials, does anybody have ever seen this message displayed inappropriately: Subscription is near its end.
15:22 Brooke_         kia ora
15:27 oleonard        Hi Brooke_
15:28 Brooke_         :)
15:31 Guest663        Brooke_: hi thar
15:31 Guest663        oops
15:31 Brooke_         ah ha the jig is up
15:32 Brooke_         where is 24601?!
15:32 oleonard        wizzyrea regularly trolls #koha by logging in as Guest663 and asking I'VE INSTALLED KOHA NOW WHERE DO i SEND THE CHECK?
15:32 Brooke_         hehehe
15:32 wizzyrea        lies
15:33 wizzyrea        more like : I'VE INSTALLED KOHA AND I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING IN MY CATALOG
15:35 * Brooke_       waves to nengard
15:38 * oleonard      would like a MARC editor plugin for 040c please
15:43 jcamins         oleonard: I set all my frameworks to default 040c to my MARC Organizational Code.
15:43 oleonard        Hey, that works too!
15:43 jcamins         hdl1: around?
15:43 jcamins         Probably not. Now is a good time to be eating dinner in France.
15:44 hdl1            jcamins: not eating
15:44 hdl1            jcamins: 17PM here
15:44 wizzyrea        oleonard: can you duplicate this, the default settings for messaging on new patrons are not being autopopped when the patron category is selected (even if you have the rules set up)
15:44 oleonard        Uh wha?
15:45 jcamins         hdl1: oh, apparently I got my time zones mixed up again.
15:45 wizzyrea        1s, video
15:45 jcamins         Anyway, it looks like bug 1179 is still a problem. Do you know of any way to tell Zebra "these parentheses are part of the data"?
15:45 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1179 major, P2, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Parentheses in subject headings break subject search from opac-detail
15:48 wizzyrea        oleonard: http://screencast.com/t/tjmt1m4W
15:51 oleonard        Jebus hamburgers you have a lot of categories.
15:51 wizzyrea        yes, yes we do
15:52 * Brooke_       doesn't even believe in Jebus
15:52 wizzyrea        it's "for statistical purposes"
15:52 jcamins         And a massive screen!
15:52 wizzyrea        >.<
15:52 wizzyrea        and lots of tabs
15:52 wizzyrea        though fewer today :P
15:52 jcamins         Actually, that's not so many, for you.
15:53 wizzyrea        :)
15:54 oleonard        wizzyrea: We don't use messaging in production. In my test installation I can't even get it to save my messaging preferences for the category :|
15:55 wizzyrea        ew
15:56 wizzyrea        hmm it saves them in mine
15:57 oleonard        Does it depend on another setting I'm missing? Besides having it enabled?
15:58 Brooke_         do we have a map of dependencies someplace?
15:59 * oleonard      should have looked... there is an 040c plugin
16:01 Brooke_         hey owen...
16:02 Brooke_         is it possible to have a skin change related to IP? so that a user in Albany would have a different experience from one in DC?
16:03 oleonard        Anything is possible with enough development work :)
16:03 jcamins         Brooke_: it would be possible with some Apache sleight of hand.
16:06 * Brooke_       waves to cait
16:08 wizzyrea        Brooke_: I think schuster is doing something like that
16:08 wizzyrea        for his schools
16:08 Brooke_         orlly?
16:08 wizzyrea        ayup
16:08 wizzyrea        involving apache sleight of hand, i believe
16:08 Brooke_         joo have a url?
16:09 wizzyrea        un mo
16:09 wizzyrea        http://k-12.pisd.edu/library.html
16:09 wizzyrea        hmm
16:09 wizzyrea        dunno, you'd have to ask him
16:09 wizzyrea        about that
16:10 cait            hi all
16:10 cait            on a train, so may be kicked out of internet soon
16:10 wizzyrea        it was my understanding that he had different themes for several of his libraries
16:10 wizzyrea        hey cait
16:10 oleonard        Libraries in different categories get served a different custom CSS file
16:11 wizzyrea        oh the tabs are different
16:12 wizzyrea        http://009.catalog.pisd.edu/ has different tabs from
16:12 wizzyrea        http://197.catalog.pisd.edu/
16:12 Brooke_         yeah.
16:12 oleonard        The content for ALL the tabs is stored in the opacheader preference, the custom stylesheet shows/hides the relevant content for each category
16:13 wizzyrea        aha
16:13 oleonard        There used to be a page for it on the wiki but I think it may have gone away because it was a Liblime thing
16:13 wizzyrea        oo
16:14 wizzyrea        [off] http://librarypolice.com/wiki.koha.org/
16:14 wizzyrea        maybe there
18:09 JesseM          During inter library loans. Where does the marc record go or stay ? Does it stay at the library where it was originally or to the library where it's returned
18:12 jcamins         JesseM: the library receiving the ILL has to create a new record in their catalog.
18:12 jcamins         Often the only thing in the bib record will be the title.
18:12 jcamins         (the one created by the borrowing library)
18:13 JesseM          does the record stay in the first library
18:13 jcamins         The lending library just has a regular MARC record, and they (usually) check the item out to a special "ILL" user.
18:13 jcamins         Yup.
18:13 JesseM          thanks
18:15 jcamins         You're welcome.
18:34 rangi           bus time, bbiab
18:37 * jcamins       hates it when broken things don't say broken.
18:41 jcamins         Okay, anyone have any idea why the word "Textbooks" would break a search?
18:41 Guest768        bad record in the result
18:41 Guest768        ?
18:42 jcamins         It doesn't return any results.
18:42 wizzyrea        stupid laptop. Gonna get that fixed, I swear.
18:42 wizzyrea        stemming?
18:42 jcamins         Ooh, good thought.
18:42 jcamins         No.
18:43 jcamins         I bet it's subfield v, not the word Textbooks.
18:45 jcamins         I don't understand how subject searching works.
18:46 rangi           I understand the zebra part
18:46 jcamins         Really?
18:46 rangi           not c4::search
18:46 jcamins         Okay, why is it that it works without the relevant subfields being indexed?
18:47 rangi           yeah I understand what zebra is doing
18:47 rangi           exactly what we told it to
18:47 rangi           why we told it to do that
18:47 rangi           I don't know
18:47 jcamins         Oh. Drat.
18:49 jcamins         So what's another genre term?
18:49 jcamins         Handbooks!
18:51 jcamins         New theory... Zebra can't handle four subfields?
18:52 jcamins         No.
18:53 jcamins         Anyone have any idea why this doesn't work: http://koha.lru.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=%28su%2Ccomplete-subfield%3A%22Bible.%22%29+and+%28su%2Ccomplete-subfield%3A%22N.T.%22%29+and+%28su%2Ccomplete-subfield%3A%22Matthew%22%29+and+%28su%2Ccomplete-subfield%3A%22Textbooks.%22%29
18:53 jcamins         Take out /and (su,complete-subfield:"Textbooks.")/ and it does.
18:54 cait            hi #koha
18:55 jcamins         It also works if you take out Matthew.
18:55 rangi           stop zebra
18:55 rangi           start if on the commandline
18:55 rangi           run the search
18:56 rangi           and u can exactly what is being passed to zebra
18:56 rangi           ^see
18:56 rangi           which should provide some insight
18:58 jcamins         Bloody RPN.
19:00 rhcl            RPN is worse than RPG
19:00 jcamins         I think there must be something wrong with that record.
19:01 jcamins         The queries that don't work look identical to the ones that do.
19:01 jcamins         (except one says "Textbooks." and one says "Commentaries.")
19:03 jcamins         Okay, new theory.
19:04 jcamins         No, never mind, no theory from me.
19:05 jcamins         Yes, theory.
19:05 jcamins         Ah-ha!
19:05 jcamins         I've found it!
19:05 jcamins         We're missing ":p"!
19:06 rangi           that would do it
19:06 rangi           see it does what we tell it
19:06 rangi           we just tell it to act dumb
19:09 cait            we are missing a smiley?
19:09 cait            what have I missed? ;)
19:09 jcamins         cait: I've been troubleshooting search peculiarities.
19:10 jcamins         rangi: do I need to split this up into multiple patches?
19:10 oleonard        Interesting... Chatzilla didn't make it a smiley when it was in quotes ":)"
19:10 cait            jcamins++
19:11 cait            for me it's still a smiley :)
19:11 jcamins         One for searching, one for Zebra indexes?
19:11 mtj             ':)'
19:11 * jcamins       uses irssi.
19:11 mtj             meh , that didnt work for adium
19:12 cait            \:)
19:12 rangi           is it testable as parts?
19:13 rangi           if so, make a bug for each part and make them block/depend on each other appropriately
19:13 jcamins         Okay.
19:13 rangi           if not then one patch is fine
19:13 jcamins         It's definitely testable in parts.
19:14 rangi           sweet id appreciate it broken into parts then please
19:14 jcamins         Okay.
19:14 cait            julian++
19:15 mtj             and a good morning #koha
19:16 cait            hi mtj :)
19:17 mtj             heya, did u sort out your 'holds' mystery, cait?
19:17 cait            hm no
19:17 jcamins         rangi: how does one patch record.abs? Just patch the one in kohaclone, and include a note on the patch saying that the indexes are updated, please update your configuration?
19:17 cait            it seemed ok int he production system
19:18 cait            I figured I had missed a setting somewhere in the test system, but not sure what the problem was
19:18 cait            jcamins: copy the file over I think
19:18 cait            and make a note int he patch
19:18 rangi           yeah
19:18 rangi           a big note
19:19 cait            hm. I added the rcn index... no note :(
19:19 rangi           make sure you remind me for the 3.4 release notes cait
19:20 cait            ok, will make a big note for myself right now
19:20 rangi           ok my stop bbiab
19:27 schuster        question about dependancies - this one is saying it can't find for me so I suspect I'm typing it wrong - liblocale-po-perl
19:28 schuster        well guess not it worked this time of course!
19:29 jcamins         cait: I'm getting this error: 15:35:30-15/03 zebraidx(10267) [warn] Index 'Record-control-number' not found in attset(s)
19:29 cait            have you copied all 3 relevant files?
19:29 jcamins         Hm.
19:29 jcamins         Probably not.
19:30 jcamins         Which three?
19:30 jcamins         record.abs, ccl.properties, and...
19:30 cait            hm, searching for my patch, give me a sec
19:31 cait            bib1.att?
19:31 cait            http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=baf3f605ecca2201527fc985cb9267b9f2809bd2
19:31 jcamins         Thanks.
19:32 mtj             cait++
19:32 jcamins         Okay, so I have two distinct patches in my working files.
19:32 cait            hope it helps
19:33 jcamins         I mean, I have edited the files for both.
19:33 jcamins         Unfortunately, the one I finished is dependent on the one I haven't.
19:33 schuster        ok I have another dependancy question and this one is valid!  bmarc-record-perl?  any suggestions?
19:34 jcamins         Never mind, I just figured out the answer to my question.
19:34 mtj             http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libmarc-record-perl
19:34 jcamins         schuster: should be libmarc-record-perl
19:34 schuster        yep thanks!!
19:35 mtj             schuster:  typo tuesday? ;)
19:35 * jcamins       doesn't believe in typo Tuesday.
19:35 jcamins         Every day is a day for typos.
19:35 schuster        might be I need to go back and check the source I copied and pasted from!
19:36 mtj             yr just missing the 'li' bit
19:39 rangi           back
19:39 schuster        I copied this string of dependancies from the wiki and there are about 4 spots that have typos.
19:40 rangi           if you install koha-common package
19:40 rangi           it will pull in all the dependencies automagically for you
19:40 rangi           you then dont need to use if you are mental
19:40 rangi           or running a development server
19:40 jcamins         Don't use the 'koha' package.
19:40 rangi           you can just run perl Makefile.PL
19:40 schuster        but I was having trouble setting that up as a development instance so was doing it the hard way... :)
19:40 jcamins         'koha-common' works much better.
19:41 rangi           yeah but theres no need to do it the hard way install koha-common, gets you all the dependencies, git clone and run the installer in there
19:41 mtj             i often use...
19:41 schuster        Yes Koha-common does work great, but then I couldn't figure out how to setup the git correctly.
19:41 mtj             $ sudo install_misc/apt-get-debian-lenny.sh
19:42 rangi           schuster: same way you always do
19:42 schuster        hmmm yes that would work, but I am a numbscull ya know and only slightly techie.
19:42 mtj             schuster: ok, but you've still got all your deb/perl packages sorted, at that stage
19:42 rangi           and mtj thats for lenny, its missing packages that are in squeeze
19:43 rangi           (theres nothing in 3.2.x that isnt packaged for squeeze)
19:43 rangi           making a debian-squeeze.sh might be useful
19:44 mtj             yep, im still running lenny, (not upgraded yet :/ )
19:44 schuster        I've got squeeze as that was what I could easily find to download.
19:45 rangi           yeah you should run squeeze schuster, you are doing it right :)
19:45 mtj             … just giving another method of automating the package hassle
19:46 mtj             and.. i havent started using the koha* packages yet either, so i have a little catching up to do
19:47 rangi           koha-common is the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance)
19:47 jcamins         And if you want to set up a single Koha instance, use koha-common anyway.
19:47 rangi           but debian/build-git-snapshot
19:47 rangi           jcamins: at the moment
19:48 jcamins         rangi: yeah, I know that'll be fixed once the problem is identified, but I was clarifying that shuster should probably not try installing the 'koha' package today. ;)
19:48 rangi           yep, just koha-common
19:49 rangi           and you can build it yourself
19:49 rangi           if you want :)
19:49 rangi           with debian/build-git-snapshot
19:49 nengard         very glad for that email to koha list about serial claims - reminded me of a section i needed to add to the manual :)
19:49 rangi           catalyst doesnt deploy any other way :)
19:50 rangi           im gonna make jenkins build packages
19:50 rangi           one of these days
19:50 wizzyrea        jenkins is a good butler.
19:51 cait            !jenkins botsnack cookie
19:51 cait            hm.
19:51 cait            jenkins botsnack cookie
19:51 cait            wizzyrea: yes, but he refuses my cookies :(
19:51 mtj             !jenkins
19:51 wizzyrea        botsnack cookie
19:51 mtj             !jenkins help
19:52 wizzyrea        well he's not here, for one >.>
19:52 cait            hehe
19:52 cait            ok, good reason
19:52 mtj             ah, click..
19:52 * cait          is tired
19:52 wizzyrea        !wahanui botsnack cookie
19:52 wizzyrea        wahanui botsnack cookie
19:52 wahanui         :)
19:52 wizzyrea        there we go
19:52 wizzyrea        wahanui botsnack life cereal
19:52 wahanui         :)
19:53 wizzyrea        oh
19:53 wizzyrea        this is cute
19:53 wizzyrea        hello
19:53 wizzyrea        oh where did the autogreeter go!
19:53 rangi           someone is playing with selenium
19:53 rangi           on the jenkins server
19:53 rangi           java doesnt like other java
19:53 wizzyrea        I swear huginn was doing that
19:53 wizzyrea        oh, he's not here either
19:53 wizzyrea        bug 1
19:53 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1 major, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, Missing uploadedmarc table definition
19:54 rangi           no wahanui does the greeets
19:54 wizzyrea        der he's an op
19:54 rangi           heya
19:54 rangi           but only when he feels like it
19:54 * wizzyrea      pokes wahanui
19:54 wizzyrea        greeeeeets
19:54 rangi           wahanui: hello
19:54 wahanui         hey, rangi
19:54 * rangi         takes this opportunity to upgrade jenkins
19:55 jcamins         hi
19:55 wahanui         what's up, jcamins
19:55 jcamins         wahanui: Just checking you were awake.
19:55 wahanui         jcamins: huh?
19:56 rangi           excuse
19:56 wahanui         rangi: Support staff hung over, send aspirin and come back LATER.
19:56 rangi           its true
19:56 schuster        If I get this to work may have to write an install for librarian wanabe developers...  Dummy guide
19:57 wizzyrea        that would be helpful for lots of folks I imagine
19:57 wizzyrea        put it on the wiki so we can help ^.^
19:58 rangi           reed did one
19:58 rangi           lemme find it
19:58 schuster        but it doesn't put you in a git mode that I could figure.
19:58 wizzyrea        excuse
19:58 wahanui         wizzyrea: nesting roaches shorted out the ether cable
19:58 wizzyrea        i buy it
19:59 schuster        so what is the Storable dependancy name?  when I ran makefile it says it needs Storable 2.21 and I have 2.20?
19:59 rangi           that'll be fine
19:59 jcamins         schuster: ignore that.
19:59 jcamins         2.20 works fine.
19:59 schuster        ok whew
20:00 schuster        you smart people understand the techie documentation but I don't talk debian/cpan well.
20:00 schuster        or for that matter english.
20:01 mtj             its just practice… thats all
20:02 * jcamins       is a cataloger, so he doesn't speak any of those things. :P
20:02 schuster        Which I have to do from home as our work firewall etc... doesn't let me play..
20:02 jcamins         Woohoo!
20:02 schuster        schuster is/was as well... along with automation guy.
20:02 jcamins         It *was* the indexes!
20:03 * wizzyrea      does a dance with jcamins
20:06 schuster        Hopefully can get this bugger running tonight so I can start helping with Pauls list of to do's!
20:06 rangi           yay!
20:08 cait            :)
20:22 rhcl            @seen sekjal
20:22 huginn          rhcl: sekjal was last seen in #koha 6 days, 1 hour, 31 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <sekjal> a simple conditional to check to see if AuthorisedValueImages is even turned on first would save a lot
20:22 rhcl            6 days?
20:23 jcamins         sekjal's on vacation this week.
20:23 cait            vacation... like the thing you do when you finally have time to work on some personal koha projects?
20:23 cait            ;)
20:24 cait            speaking about me, sekjal has probably does real vacations :)
20:25 cait            ok... too tired to make sense
20:25 cait            or be funny. time to sleep.
20:26 cait            bye all
20:31 rhcl            @seen rangi
20:31 huginn          rhcl: rangi was last seen in #koha 25 minutes and 2 seconds ago: <rangi> yay!
20:33 rangi           sup rhcl ?
20:36 * druthb        be-bops in
20:37 * jcamins       has had to look up the name of the syspref he is adding about five times today.
20:37 jcamins         It's weird, because every time I see the name I think "oh, that's the most logical name ever."
20:45 rangi           anyone remember what the bug was to limit the number of items showing on the checkout page?
20:46 mtj             pass, off my head
20:49 rangi           dang
20:49 rangi           am i dreaming it, im sure we had a bug for that?
20:49 jcamins         Does anyone think oleonard would be offended if I assigned bug 4276 to myself?
20:49 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, REOPENED, "Related subjects" search doesn't work with XSLT on and chained subject terms
20:50 rangi           no
20:50 rangi           no one minds when ppl take bugs off them
20:50 druthb          I think that might have been raised when we were working on East Brunswick or Middletown at PTFS, rangi.
20:50 rangi           restricting it to the last 20 or something
20:50 rangi           im sure ive seen it recently
20:50 rangi           maybe a biblibre one
20:52 rangi           i must be dreaming, cant find it
20:54 rangi           hmm meeting i think
20:54 rangi           bbiab
21:19 mtj             it was discussed on the lists, and a circ speed-up hack
21:25 jcamins         The jQuery I wrote works in Chrome but not in Firefox.
21:25 jcamins         Isn't jQuery supposed to be portable?
21:25 rangi           back
21:27 jcamins         Never mind, I just don't know how to use Firebug.
21:49 * chris_n       finds it funny that the mysql site (oracle owned) is throwing a java (oracle owned) exception on a search
21:49 chris_n         quote "Powered by Oracle Secure Enterprise Search."
21:49 chris_n         lol
21:50 chris_n         someone tell me again why closed source is better....
21:55 druthb          "More stable."  (at least, so I was told....)
22:26 jcamins         Good night, #koha
23:02 mtj             anyone interested in a stupid mysqldump /restore Q ?
23:03 mtj             if i have a 10 gig 'all-dbs.sql' dump file, and i wanna restore just a tiny 10 meg db from it… ?
23:03 mtj             how do i do that?!?
23:04 mtj             other than wait 3 days to load all dbs..., of course ;)
23:04 rangi           edit the file
23:05 rangi           using probably head and tail
23:05 mtj             hmm, yeah i guess
23:05 jenkins_koha    Starting build 45 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:05 mtj             i really didnt wanna edit that file either
23:06 mtj             vim gets a bit wiggy :/
23:06 rangi           thats why you use head or tail
23:06 rangi           to shrink it
23:06 mtj             i could prolly turn off the auto-indent option, in vim
23:07 mtj             ahh, thats gansta
23:07 rangi           a bunch of heads > file or tail > file tail -100000 > newfile
23:07 rangi           etc
23:07 rangi           just to get something a bit less huge
23:08 mtj             curious, you grep a string 1st, for line number?
23:08 rangi           yeah the db name usually
23:09 mtj             ok, goz my pretty , tweaked vim, seems to thrash, on  >1-gig files
23:10 mtj             ok, i learn something… just edit the file, with the right tool
23:31 rangi           heya druthb
23:32 mtj             oh, and thanks for the clue too, chris
23:32 druthb          hi, rangi. :)
23:40 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #45: SUCCESS in 34 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/45/
23:48 * rangi         starts filling up the needs signoff queue again