Time  Nick            Message
23:33 jcamins         Good night, #kona
22:04 rhcl            ah, 740 where the cat should go--mine never listens to me
22:03 gmcharlt        jcamins: true, since you'd just have to edit the record again after nine months
22:03 huginn          rhcl: Contains related or analytical titles that are not controlled through an authority file or list. (If related or analytical titles are controlled by an authority file, use field 730 (Added entry - uniform title)). (Repeatable) [a,h,n,p,5,6,8]
22:03 rhcl            @marc 740
22:02 jcamins         gmcharlt: better that than 740, don't you think?
22:00 * druthb        catalogs her cat, with extent "20 pounds, approx." and 650 $aDestruction of the Universe
21:59 * gmcharlt      wonders what theory of soul is implied by using title changes to represent relationships between parents and children ;)
21:58 druthb          lol
21:58 huginn          druthb: The current stated publication frequency of either an item or an update to an item. Dates are included when the beginning date of the current frequency is not the same as the beginning date of publication. These data are related to coded data in field 008/18 (Frequency) and 008/19 (Regularity). [a,b,6,8]
21:58 druthb          @marc 310
21:58 gmcharlt        what did he put in the 310?
21:55 * druthb        heard of a library school where one of your cataloging exercises was to catalog yourself.  Friend of mine put his parents in 780s, his child in 785, and "God" in 100.
21:52 * jcamins       is biased, being a cataloger.
21:47 jcamins         Sounds like a good idea to me.
21:41 rhcl            I should catalog my collection of wildlife art.
21:26 jcamins         And you can certainly check out realia... that's how they did registration at KohaCon.
21:26 jcamins         rhcl: You can catalog realia with MARC.
21:26 rhcl            In the olden days some libraries had framed art and even, like sculptures for checkout. Does Koha have any functionality for that?
21:24 SharonNEKLS     that's the plan
21:24 rhcl            Well, you need a new setup. :)
21:24 SharonNEKLS     Not in our current set up.
21:23 rhcl            ? not sure I understand. Staff members can change their passwords certainly.
21:22 SharonNEKLS     We will leave those as Staff, but we are taking all 'staff people' and making them regular adult patrons, so they can be guarnators and change their own passwords.
21:21 rhcl            the SIP connections have to have admin accounts
21:17 nengard         :)
21:15 SharonNEKLS     We will email our helpful new support vendor...
21:13 SharonNEKLS     damn
21:12 rangi           pass
21:11 SharonNEKLS     rangi - do System logins for SIP connections have to be Staff accounts or can they be plain-jane adult accounts?
20:58 rangi           http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-earthquake/4715113/Christchurch-earthquake-A-week-on-a-nation-mourns
20:58 rangi           2 hours and 47 mins from now
20:58 rangi           on a more serious note 2 mins silence at 12:51pm today, thats the time the quake hit one week ago
20:57 oleonard        That is an awesome rock.
20:56 SharonNEKLS     lol
20:56 rangi           the kiwi attitude
20:56 rangi           http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Outdoor-garden-conservatory/Landscaping-materials/Stones-rocks/auction-357989041.htm
20:55 SharonNEKLS     np
20:55 jcamins         Thank you!
20:55 jcamins         Ah-ha.
20:54 SharonNEKLS     It's stored under "local use"
20:54 rangi           yay!
20:54 SharonNEKLS     we didn't get the "please return to" prompt to let folks know when to send books back to their homebranch for re-shelving.
20:54 oleonard        Your suggested change was correct rangi
20:53 jcamins         SharonNEKLS: hm. Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who couldn't find that syspref. What happened when it wasn't in your system?
20:53 * oleonard      should have known it was his own error when evidence suggested rangi was wrong :P
20:52 SharonNEKLS     jcamins we couldn't find it searching sysprefs, but it was crucial to getting our test install to behave correctly.
20:52 rangi           id try it with just an & too
20:51 * oleonard      checks again
20:51 oleonard        Actually, did my edit take?
20:49 * rangi         doesnt think browswers interpret html in a url (i could be wrong tho)
20:49 rangi           amp; even
20:49 rangi           what about just a & instead of &ampl
20:49 jcamins         Does "HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn" ring any bells with anyone?
20:48 oleonard        I tried search.pl?idx=au&amp;q=<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="author" ESCAPE="URL" --> without success
20:47 * rangi         wonders if he is making any sense at all
20:46 rangi           just a href of the for idx=au&q=authors name
20:46 rangi           sorry no hidden inputs
20:46 rangi           so i reckon the templte should be changed to not do ccl but just have a hidden input idx = au
20:45 rangi           and it actually works
20:45 rangi           click on one there
20:45 rangi           http://librarian.opus.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?idx=au&q=institution
20:45 rangi           doesnt do anything
20:45 rangi           click on a facet there
20:45 rangi           http://librarian.opus.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=ccl=au:institution
20:43 rangi           vs
20:43 rangi           ie clicking on the facets actually works
20:42 rangi           that link is sortable, and facetable
20:42 rangi           not ccl anything
20:42 rangi           http://librarian.opus.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?idx=au&q=test
20:42 rangi           i still think the link should be like this
20:41 oleonard        in the staff client au:Smiley, Jane.
20:41 rangi           right
20:41 oleonard        In the opac, ccl=au:Smiley, Jane
20:41 oleonard        It's the hidden input that's different
20:41 rangi           i bet if you change it to idx=au&q=author
20:39 rangi           the same
20:39 oleonard        search.pl?q=au:<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="author" ESCAPE="URL" -->
20:38 rangi           lemme find out what staff does
20:38 rangi           q=au:author
20:38 rangi           opac does
20:38 oleonard        Yes
20:37 rangi           works in the opac eh?
20:36 rangi           its the link from the author is wrong
20:35 rangi           or it might have just been fixed for subjects
20:35 rangi           i thought that was fixed
20:35 SharonNEKLS     Spits me to the Advanced Search page
20:35 SharonNEKLS     Oops
20:34 oleonard        1. Do a search in the staff client. 2. Click on an author link in your search results. 3. Re-sort the results of that search.
20:34 nengard         you're welcome Mickey and Sharon :)
20:33 * oleonard      discovers a new bug. Yay.
20:28 cait            good night all
20:28 * oleonard_     gets chatzilla working on Debian finally
20:28 SharonNEKLS     From Mickey: nicole's is good thank you. that is what i needed.
20:27 nengard         :)
20:26 SharonNEKLS     Thank you - we'll bookmark...
20:26 nengard         http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql;h=9148970ca8a7a44d2846c4c182d05eb460a3df18;hb=HEAD
20:26 nengard         SharonNEKLS, I have a link in the manual to the db structure of koha
20:25 nengard         hi SharonNEKLS!!!!
20:25 cait            http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_Schema
20:25 cait            http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_E-R_diagrams_and_tables_information_RFC
20:24 cait            database documentation
20:24 cait            it was on the old wiki
20:24 cait            there is something done by cilea i think
20:23 SharonNEKLS     K - we've been using that one for 2 years, suppose we can keep on using it
20:23 SharonNEKLS     That link is to Koha 2.2 documentation
20:23 jcamins         My cat says he likes that appendix. There is not an updated one for Koha 3.2+, I don't think.
20:23 SharonNEKLS     table names and field names to help write reports.
20:22 cait            what are you looking for?
20:22 SharonNEKLS     wizzyrea is out of the office, or I'd just ask her ;-)
20:21 SharonNEKLS     Hi all.  Is there an updated version of these tables somewhere? http://www.kohadocs.org/usersguide/apa.html
20:11 rangi           bbiab
20:11 rangi           hey NateC
20:11 NateC           Hiya #koha!
19:57 cait            hehe
19:56 * druthb        suggests GeoIP location on jcamins address, to find cookies.
19:56 * cait          looks around searching for cookies
19:54 druthb          cookies?
19:54 * druthb        perks.
19:54 cait            cookies?
19:52 rangi           im expecting little things like a variable in the wrong scope
19:52 rangi           a bug found, with a patch to fix it, will get you a cookie
19:51 rangi           ill make you a deal
19:50 * oleonard      wherein Koha QA testing peaks at 11AM each day
19:50 oleonard        I was hoping "the more testing you do" was going to be followed by "the more cookies you'll get"
19:49 rangi           let that be a warning to you all! :-)
19:49 rangi           the less master will be broken when i merge it
19:49 rangi           the more testing you do
19:49 rangi           and i will be asking for serious testing
19:49 rangi           yeah, sometime this week, im moving all the tt work into a branch on git.koha-community.org
19:48 * jcamins       remembers abruptly why he decided to do all his development in Template::Toolkit.
19:45 * gmcharlt      blinks, then bills rhcl for some ocular bleach
19:45 bencahill       lol
19:43 * oleonard      does a spit take
19:43 rangi           heh
19:42 rhcl            Firebird is a really great database because they have the prettiest web site of any db.
19:41 oleonard        The database I would have never heard of if Mozilla hadn't tried to name a browser the same thing.
19:40 rhcl            http://www.firebirdsql.org/
19:40 rhcl            firebird, firebird, firebird
19:33 cait            I hear you
19:32 oleonard        consistency++
19:32 cait            leaving the reserves empty means null, leaving checkouts empty means unlimitied (afaik)
19:30 cait            you can't set maxreserves to unlimited, I was confusing those too for a moment
19:29 cait            sorry, leave it empty
19:29 cait            oh
19:29 cait            no way
19:29 jcamins         How do I set checkouts allowed to "unlimited"?
19:29 jcamins         cait: yeah, eventually I tracked it down. Kind of.
19:29 oleonard        I'm looking at INSTALL.debian step 6.1.1
19:28 cait            the simple search, not the advanced search
19:27 cait            jcamins: should put a library pull down next to the search in opac
19:26 oleonard        Or do I get those because I'm doing a dev install?
19:25 oleonard        Are there circumstances under which the "sudo -u <kohauser> zebraserv..." command is going to work without permissions errors?
19:24 oleonard        Alright, installation question:
19:22 oleonard        It helps put some things in context for me, and understand how "open source" can be a slippery slope
19:20 rangi           it is a good read eh oleonard
19:19 oleonard        This is probably old news to everyone else, but I just read this and found it worthwhile: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
19:19 jcamins         Ah, found it.
19:19 mtj             pushing for a postgres port, means that the mysql-isms get removed from Koha too, which is another win
19:18 jcamins         Does OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown actually do anything?
19:18 rangi           i probably need to learn to spell first
19:18 rangi           to be a good a man as he is
19:17 rangi           i have a long long way to go
19:17 rangi           actually i strive to emulate bradley kuhn
19:17 rangi           hehe
19:17 * gmcharlt      checks to see if rms is wearing a rangi mask
19:17 mtj             *nod*
19:17 mtj             *nod*
19:16 rangi           you may have noticed a trend in my thinking :-)
19:16 rangi           but its not a true free software project, so thats why im keen to move
19:16 rangi           i mean its no less future safe than access, or ms sql
19:15 mtj             ha, thats not saying much, chris :)
19:15 cait            not sure what they are using now
19:15 rangi           moving from it because oracle are mental is the reason
19:15 cait            I was wondering where the question came from
19:14 rangi           which makes it safer than oracle, or sybase
19:14 cait            ok
19:14 rangi           and has many drop in replacements
19:14 rangi           its as safe as any db is
19:14 rangi           future safe is the wrong reason to leave mysql
19:13 rangi           then we are a big step closer, its just fixing all the .sql files (and any mysqlisms in the code)
19:13 rangi           im still hoping to get DBIx::Class::Schema in
19:12 rangi           unless someone does it
19:12 cait            ok
19:12 rangi           that wont happen for 3.4
19:12 cait            only asking because I got a list of questions today - library asking for future safe database
19:12 cait            what about postgres?
19:12 jwagner         Speaking of searching, where would I look to try to exclude (for example) leading French articles Le, La, Les L' from alphabetical sorts?
19:12 * gmcharlt      still has a month :)
19:11 * rangi         looks at gmcharlt :)
19:11 rangi           i never promised to write it
19:10 oleonard        Promises, promises, rangi ;)
19:10 oleonard        "C4/Search.pm needs a total rewrite and is on the cards for 3.4"
19:09 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1807 blocker, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results
19:09 oleonard        Bug 1807
19:09 nengard         i found it - but what does moved mean? and is it still an issue?
19:09 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2702 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED MOVED, Subjects with Parens Causing Issues
19:09 nengard         bug 2702
19:08 oleonard        but that's very specific
19:08 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5693 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, if parentheses used in ccode then searches against ccode fail
19:08 oleonard        Bug 5693 was a recent one
19:08 nengard         and does anyone know what bug number that was?
19:08 tcohen          i don't see any drawbacks
19:07 nengard         searching for subjects that have parens in them - does that work or doesn't it?
19:07 nengard         i need help tracking down a bug report - one i thought was fixed (but might not be)
19:07 tcohen          thanks
19:07 tcohen          perhaps someone will patch it later if found not appropriate
19:07 tcohen          alright, i'll leave it per-borrower
19:06 oleonard        tcohen: I guess I could go either way.
19:06 wahanui1        i guess oleonard is the master UI designer of koha
19:06 tcohen          oleonard?
19:05 tcohen          but for this submission I can be more conservative and stick with the current approach
19:04 tcohen          perhaps for every setting
19:04 tcohen          I think is better to do it by borrowernumber
19:04 rangi           My stop bbiab
19:03 rangi           Sorry clientside
19:02 tcohen          (in addbiblio.pl)
19:02 rangi           The other cookies like language pref, login etc aren't tied to a borrowernumber serverside
19:02 tcohen          $template->param(borrowernumber => $loggedinuser);
19:01 oleonard        Right, how does the script know the borrowernumber of the logged in user?
19:01 tcohen          checking?
19:00 rangi           It does make the checking more complex
19:00 tcohen          I think is harmless
19:00 tcohen          what do u think of possible security issues?
18:59 rangi           Id have sep users for the machine, but yeah I guess some libraries might let people share logins
18:59 tcohen          if exposing in such a way the borrowernumbers is a problem for security...
18:58 tcohen          ??
18:58 tcohen          perhaps, one in the morning one in the evening
18:58 cait            yeah, but are they all working on the same machine?
18:57 tcohen          each catalogur wants so see/don't see marc doc links
18:57 rangi           I guess if its a machine lots of people use
18:57 rangi           Does it need borrowernumber?
18:57 tcohen          $.cookie("marcdocs_<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="borrowernumber" -->",false, { path: "/", expires: 0 });
18:56 tcohen          on the same browser
18:56 tcohen          so there can be several cookies set for different users
18:55 tcohen          do u think is ok to set a cookie name marcdocs_borrowernumber true or false?
18:55 oleonard        Yes
18:55 tcohen          oleonard, r u ther?
18:54 jwagner         ...says the person who was dressed for the weather....
18:54 rangi           Bah, that was nothing :)
18:52 jwagner         In NZ, yes! not so sure about in Wellington -- those winds were pretty COLD....
18:52 cait            hmpf :)
18:52 nengard         but i'm not a dev
18:51 nengard         i do!
18:50 rangi           Anyone wanna live in wellington? :)
18:50 rangi           Yeah mine is growing pretty fast, time to add another dev to the catalyst koha team I think
18:50 cait            chris_n: I have one of those too :(
18:49 jcamins         (a patron cannot place a hold on a bib which does not have any items that can be checked out to his/her category)
18:49 * chris_n       's todo list looks like a write-only stack :-P
18:49 rangi           Sweet
18:49 jcamins         Well, my testing suggests that this works fine.
18:48 rangi           Its not quite ready for primetime, more a sanity check
18:48 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix
18:48 rangi           I sent sekjal a patch for bug 5786 if you wanted to test that too that would be cool
18:48 jcamins         Will do.
18:46 rangi           Link it off the holds rewrite bug if you file one
18:45 cait            jcamins: I think if you can it's  a bug
18:44 jcamins         rangi: good plan. :)
18:44 rangi           jcamins: try it and see
18:43 rangi           That was the longest I've waited for a bus in ages
18:43 rangi           Back
18:42 jcamins         If a particular bib has no items that could ever be checked out by a given patron category, can a patron in that category still place a hold on the item?
18:28 * rangi         goes to catch his bus
18:27 rangi           ill keep that in mind mtj hopefully we get some other offers
18:27 rangi           jenkins is far easier to move
18:26 mtj             its a little 512meg one, so it may choke too
18:26 mtj             i have a linode, that could host either/or
18:24 rangi           nope, there simply isnt enough space for jenkins and bugzilla on the same small linode instance (at least now that we have more tests to run anyway)
18:05 tcohen          if you put more than one apache will complain of namevirtualhosts definition collision
18:05 tcohen          so it is more clear to put it in ports.conf
18:04 tcohen          you need one NameVirtualHost declaration for all your vhosts
18:04 tcohen          in your virtualhost definition, it will try to match the virtualhost name
18:04 tcohen          oleonard: NameVirtualHost *:80 in ports.conf means you're going to use name-based virtual hosts in your apache's configs
18:03 rangi           i think its by design :)
18:03 rangi           eat all your ram
18:03 rangi           its a java thing, its what java does
18:02 mtj             ah, old thing :)
18:02 * jcamins       distributes pieces of virtual sourdough bread to everyone in #koha
18:02 rangi           it has been doing it a while
18:02 rangi           nope
18:01 mtj             running out of ram is a new thing, since the hudson->jenkins upgrade?
18:01 rangi           hi mtj
18:00 mtj             morning chris
18:00 rangi           i wonder if jenkins will complete or run out of ram again
18:00 rangi           morning
17:56 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.3�C (7:00 PM CET on February 28, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022.2 hPa (Rising).
17:56 cait            @wunder konstanz
17:55 jenkins_koha    Starting build 109 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #102 6 days 14 hr ago)
17:50 oleonard        Working, thanks!
17:50 oleonard        druthb++
17:50 oleonard        wizzyrea++
17:50 oleonard        jcamins++
17:49 druthb          * by itself means "all ports we're listening to."  I usually use *:80, just to be specific.
17:47 jcamins         (or drop it if you want to leave it at 80, I think)
17:47 jcamins         (or change the :80 to whatever port you want)
17:47 jcamins         <VirtualHost *:80>
17:46 jcamins         NameVirtualHosts *:80
17:46 jcamins         Listen *:80
17:46 jcamins         oleonard: yes, I think it should look like this:
17:46 jcamins         Would anyone else find it useful to be able to doubleclick on a specific patron when the search for checking out to a patron returns more than one result?
17:46 oleonard        Do I need a "Listen" somewhere?
17:45 jcamins         You should only need one, I think.
17:45 oleonard        Do I need "NameVirtualHost *" just in ports.conf, or in my other .conf files as well?
17:44 jcamins         cait: http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/189497_649953326409_24800824_36653786_6632498_a.jpg
17:39 jcamins         I think it is, anyway.
17:38 jcamins         Yes.
17:38 oleonard        Oh, is that from the 000-default site?
17:37 oleonard        But when I restart apache I get "VirtualHost *:80 -- mixing *ports and no-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported"
17:36 oleonard        I have specified ServerName
17:36 oleonard        Okay, so now I have in ports.conf, "NameVirtualHost *" and in koha-httpd.conf, "<VirtualHost *>
17:33 jcamins         <VirtualHost *> ServerName ${YOUR_URL}
17:33 wizzyrea        ServerName Your Name
17:33 jcamins         *
17:31 oleonard        Then what do I specify in the <VirtualHost> sections of koha-httpd.conf?
17:30 jcamins         That's what I did.
17:30 jcamins         I think you can do that.
17:30 oleonard        NameVirtualHost * in ports.conf?
17:29 jcamins         You can also use * instead of an IP.
17:29 jcamins         Yes.
17:29 oleonard        Is that right?
17:29 oleonard        The NameVirtualHost line in /etc/apache2/ports.conf should specify the IP:port I specify in koha-httpd.conf's <virtualHost> ?
17:28 oleonard        I need some help setting up named virtual hosts in a new system I'm setting up
17:25 tcohen          Cake::CaptureSmell
17:23 cait            :)
17:23 jcamins         Unfortunately the photograph will not capture how amazing it smells.
17:22 jcamins         Once it comes out I can photograph it. ;)
17:22 jcamins         It's still in the oven.
17:21 cait            photos? ;)
17:21 jcamins         The bread looks beautiful. And full of character.
17:10 jenkins_koha    Starting build 108 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #102 6 days 13 hr ago)
17:07 wizzyrea        they do
17:07 wizzyrea        oh these did have sugar
17:07 jcamins         wizzyrea: I did that once. They were *very* popular.
17:06 tcohen          cookies need to have SUGAR
17:05 wizzyrea        lots of fiber >.>
17:05 wizzyrea        we put nuts and dried fruit in those, and they were divine breakfast cookies
17:04 wizzyrea        garlic in cookies was just not his speed
17:04 druthb          my daughter would consider that the rankest heresy.  She *love* garlic.
17:04 wizzyrea        but the hubs wouldn't touch em
17:04 wizzyrea        and the kiddo didn't mind them
17:04 wizzyrea        I kind of liked it with the garlic
17:04 wizzyrea        well, honestly
17:03 jcamins         wizzyrea: sounds like you learned that from painful experience?
17:03 druthb          hehehe
17:03 wizzyrea        just don't (really, don't) use curry powder with garlic in it
17:03 wizzyrea        NOM
17:03 wizzyrea        they are oatmeal, coconut, and curry
17:03 wizzyrea        those are the best cookies ever
17:02 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3659 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab
17:02 oleonard        tcohen: Bug 3659
17:01 druthb          doesn't sound much like a cookie....some kinda funky macaroon..
17:01 tcohen          oleonard: which bug is it?
17:01 druthb          :D
17:01 tcohen          of course
17:01 jcamins         druthb: maybe with coconut and curry, for wizzyrea? :)
17:00 oleonard        tcohen: I have another patch pending which adds the jQuery cookie plugin, so I would recommend using that as well if it suits your needs
17:00 druthb          sourdough...cookies?
17:00 druthb          o.O
17:00 tcohen          butter cookies
17:00 jcamins         I should make sourdough cookies.
17:00 druthb          Mmm.
17:00 jcamins         Mmm. Cookies.
17:00 tcohen          any thoughts about it?
17:00 tcohen          oleonard: that's right, i'll work on cookies
16:56 cait            hi all
16:55 * jcamins       is very impatient for his sourdough bread to cook.
15:51 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5546 enhancement, P5, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Ability to hide MARC documentation links
15:51 oleonard        tcohen: Will you be trying to add cookie handling to the feature in Bug 5546?
15:40 jcamins         ... and global variables do not work.
15:34 jcamins         I just learned that variables in XSLT *are not* scoped to templates called after their declaration.
15:33 jcamins         tcohen: sorry, just talking to myself.
15:33 tcohen          jcamins: ?
15:32 jcamins         Oh, now I see what's wrong.
15:30 * jcamins       hates illogical bugs.
15:14 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5546 enhancement, P5, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Ability to hide MARC documentation links
15:14 tcohen          i'll put my hands on bug 5546 today
15:13 jcamins         Put the patch in your kohaclone directory, then run git am ${PATCH_FILE}
15:13 tcohen          jcamins: ok
15:13 jcamins         tcohen: you can download however you prefer. I generally use wget.
15:10 tcohen          how do I properly download a patch from bugs.koha-community?
15:04 * jcamins       is a grad student in Slavic Studies, so he finds that very amusing.
15:04 gmcharlt        down with othering!
15:04 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit32: Follow-up fix for Bug 5733 - Empty cart in intranet when session is closed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b66662413b9ebf897fd8427947dab0462dd56859> / Fix for Bug 5812 - Tag Cloud - capitalized words come before lower-case words <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da9e26d020aac79a3a65d34a89d94e12fa65b640> / Follow-up fix for Bug 4885 - Only 1 ISBN shows in non-
15:03 jcamins         Other's Others?
15:02 druthb          others' others?
15:02 gmcharlt        other's others?
15:02 chris_n         others even
15:01 chris_n         please let me know if you find other's I've missed
15:01 gmcharlt        chris_n++
15:01 chris_n         gmcharlt: done
15:00 jcamins         I seem to have reversed my syspref.
15:00 jcamins         Hm.
14:54 jcamins         wizzyrea: and, good morning. :)
14:54 jcamins         oleonard: just in the last few minutes, apparently.
14:54 oleonard        Looks like Bugzilla is down?
14:54 * jcamins       gave away the bread from yesterday already.
14:54 wizzyrea        and good morning
14:53 wizzyrea        my goodness I hope you have a big freezer
14:53 * druthb        hunts for the $1 ticket deal on BoltBus.
14:52 jcamins         Ten loaves of bread between yesterday and today... not bad.
14:51 * jcamins       returns, having shaped the sourdough.
14:51 oleonard        I have my eyeballs configured to alert me when someone uses my old nick.
14:50 * chris_n       must remember your nick change :P
14:50 chris_n         tnx
14:50 oleonard        chris_n: No, the file in question doesn't exist in 3.2.x
14:50 huginn          chris_n: The operation succeeded.
14:50 chris_n         @later tell sekjal should your patch for bug 3319 apply to 3.2.x?
14:49 chris_n         sekjal: should your patch for bug 3319 apply to 3.2.x?
14:47 chris_n         owen: should your patches for bug 5804 apply to 3.2.x?
14:36 huginn          gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
14:36 gmcharlt        @later tell chris_n would you mind cherry-picking 61f6828d1230 for 3.2.x?
14:36 jcamins         Clearly you know how tasty it is. :)
14:35 rhcl            But then, what do I know about sourdough?
14:34 rhcl            Now see...
14:34 rhcl            No see, I wouldn't be able to resist trying to mix it up a bit--I'd throw in some potato scrapings or something
14:34 jcamins         But one day soon, the local yeasts will take over, and it'll be less pitiful.
14:33 rhcl            I mean, for chili you go to Texas. And sourdough should be CA or maybe south/midwest
14:33 jcamins         rhcl: yeah.
14:33 rhcl            I see King Arthur Flour is located in Vermont. Vermont has maple syrup. But isn't Vermont sourdough kinda like New York chili?
14:25 kf              :)
14:25 jcamins         And the payoff (glorious sourdough bread) is totally worth it. ;)
14:25 jcamins         But it's only kind of cheating.
14:25 jcamins         kf: 'cause I didn't grow it from scratch.
14:24 kf              jcamins: why is this cheating?
14:16 jcamins         I ordered a starter from King Arthur Flour.
14:15 jcamins         I cheated a bit.
14:15 jcamins         Yes.
14:14 kf              so this one is alive and well?
14:09 jcamins         Fortunately Costco is nearby, and they sell 50# bags of bread flour.
14:08 druthb          :-O
14:08 jcamins         I figured out why I go through flour so quickly. I used 6 pounds of it yesterday.
14:08 jcamins         Lots of sourdough.
14:07 * druthb        is wishing she was closer to jcamins, since there is sourdough coming up soon
14:01 * jcamins       is wishing his sourdough would come up to room temperature so that he could shape it and get it started on its second rise.
13:54 * jwagner       is wishing i were back in Florida -- 83 degrees, sunny, and a rocket launch :-)
13:53 * oleonard      started the day under a tornado warning, so things have already improved.
13:52 * druthb        is dissolving Prozac into her tea, just in case.
13:52 oleonard        So how's Monday, #koha?
13:22 Ropuch          Hello [;
13:12 kf              hi jcamins and hi Ropuch :)
13:06 jcamins         Good morning, #koha
12:59 kf              good morning :)
12:58 jwagner         Good afternoon, Europe
12:58 magnuse         good morning, americas!
12:10 ebegin          I'm trying to configure koha in order to search ranges of acquisition date. Anybody already acheived this ?  So far, I can search for an exact date, but not a range nor > or <
12:08 magnuse         hi ebegin
12:06 eric_b          hi all
12:04 magnuse         hi druthb
12:03 druthb          hi, magnuse!
12:03 magnuse         o/
10:21 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4945 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in library
10:21 jenkins_koha    Ian Walls: Bug 3319 Followup: Fix compatibility with fix for bug 4945
10:21 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Master build #386: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/386/
09:54 jenkins_koha    Starting build 386 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:53 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3319' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9f35b69849dca8705df98ff0a21d2b2b1171cc8> / Bug 3319 Followup: Fix compatibility with fix for bug 4945 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac9fd0cff94f1df9c2bd2d2160bd85e8e532238a>
09:07 jenkins_koha    Marcel de Rooy: Bug 1953 - Follow up fix on security patch
09:07 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Master build #385: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/385/
08:46 jenkins_koha    kf: great! yum yum. how did you know that cookie is my favorite food?
08:46 kf              !jenkins botsnack cookie
08:40 jenkins_koha    Starting build 385 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:39 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_1953' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e3fdc6d6b46bb368167b6ae2cb0ebbe590f5e00> / Bug 1953 - Follow up fix on security patch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=439d2224e1215fa876ff7c5a06f773003555a035>
08:35 kf              hi hdl and paul_p
08:28 hdl             hi magnuse
08:28 magnuse         sounds like some nice weather in wellington!
08:28 paul_p          hello magnuse (& thx to spot the shadow ;-) )
08:28 magnuse         and bonjour hdl
08:27 magnuse         hi paul_p and paul_p's shadow
08:17 francharb       liliput period : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQOGy3_6k1g
08:17 francharb       kleenex period : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQZY0B8eaPU
08:16 kf              hm
08:16 francharb       at the beginning they were called kleenex, then liliput
08:15 kf              kleenex?
08:15 rangi           hehe cool
08:14 francharb       i did some basic week end stuff : grocery, cleaning... and i got for 4lp boxset from this old swiss band 'kleenex'! :) so i listened 83 swiss punk music! ;)
08:13 huginn          rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on February 28, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
08:13 rangi           @wunder wellington nz
08:12 kf              don't worry, I don't think it's a secret
08:12 kf              hehe
08:11 magnuse         oops, kf
08:11 magnuse         cait beats us both!
08:11 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0�C (9:00 AM CET on February 28, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
08:11 magnuse         @wunder konstanz, germany
08:11 magnuse         heh, almost the same!
08:10 magnuse         how about you francharb?
08:10 huginn          francharb: The current temperature in Lyon, France is 3.0�C (9:00 AM CET on February 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
08:10 francharb       @wunder lyon, france
08:10 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0�C (8:50 AM CET on February 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
08:10 magnuse         @wunder bodo, norway
08:10 magnuse         yep, thanks - worked a little, went for nice walks in non-freezing temperatures, ate good food...
08:09 francharb       ;)
08:09 francharb       as usual
08:09 kf              yep, only too short :)
08:09 francharb       hi kf, magnuse! good week end?
08:08 magnuse         hi francharb
08:08 kf              hi francharb
08:04 francharb       hello #koha
07:09 magnuse         :-)
07:01 kf              kia ora :)
06:58 magnuse         kia ora #koha
06:22 kf              good morning #koha
05:14 cait            hi #koha
03:22 kmkale          hi space_librarian
03:19 space_librarian namaste, kmkale
03:17 kmkale          Namaskar #koha
00:13 rangi           heya NateC