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23:56 * jcamins_away mumbles off wandering about dinner...
23:56 jcamins_away Now all we need is dinner and we're good to go. :D
23:56 thd gmcharlt: He said that he would prepare the code for distribution under a suitable free software license next week.
23:56 mtj well done thd :)
23:55 thd gmcharlt: I just finished speaking to the developer on the telephone explaining how to add a license to his work.
23:54 thd gmcharlt: http://amazon.libcat.org/azorder.pl and http://amazon.libcat.org/cgi-bin/imdb2marc.pl .
23:51 * jcamins_away is always interested in cataloging and Koha!
23:45 gmcharlt thd: what is it?
23:18 thd rangi: We are about to have a nice new contribution to Koha cataloguing.
23:15 thd rangi: are you here now/
22:20 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: NormalizeString POD Fixing and variable renaming
22:20 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5769 - notice tab disappearing on edit patron
22:20 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5140 - In Chrome, drop-down menus disappear after using pop-up calendar
22:20 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #372: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/372/
22:13 wizzyrea dupe detection
22:13 wizzyrea oh hey that's sweet
22:11 bg :)
22:11 rangi hi bg
22:11 bg afternoon
22:02 rangi rules!
22:02 rangi you just start typing and it starts suggesting bugs that might be the same
22:02 rangi just saved me making a new bug for this 5436
22:01 rangi the automatic detection of trying to find duplicate bugs is sweet
22:01 rangi wow bugzilla 4 is cool
21:56 hudsonbot Starting build 372 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)
21:56 NateC hi rangi!
21:54 rangi hiya NateC
21:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5769' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c43aac22a2cc7c511820d5d6e791daed6c01ee46> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5682' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=92f52dc8509664dc305e386a198428146566dbb3> / NormalizeString POD Fixing and variable renaming <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm
21:31 * LBA waves to rangi
21:31 LBA heh heh...yea should have gone lower case....
21:30 eythian Logical Block Access
21:30 rangi hi LBA
21:28 magnuse bye!
21:28 eythian bye
21:27 rangi cya magnuse
21:27 * magnuse wishes #koha and all it's inhabitants a good night and a good weekend - see ya on monday!
21:25 eythian http://www.dangerousminds.net/index.php/site/comments/cookie_monster_helps_train_ibm_sales_staff_1967/
21:25 magnuse mine too
21:25 cait this mind is tired
21:24 cait hmpf
21:24 magnuse cait: great minds think alike... ;-)
21:24 cait magnuse: same thought here :)
21:23 eythian yeah, I quite liked it when I saw it in action, but I never actually used it myself.
21:22 rangi altho the statuses in bugzilla seem to be working pretty well too
21:22 rangi something to maybe have a play with
21:22 eythian magnuse: jup
21:22 eythian you have your own branch, and nominate for merging whereupon people review and accept/decline with comments.
21:21 magnuse Hashigo Zake? hey, i've been there!
21:21 rangi *nod*
21:21 eythian the brief sounds similar to how launchpad works
21:21 rangi might be worth having a look at
21:21 rangi http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/
21:21 eythian gerrit?
21:21 eythian the recipient would surely thank you
21:21 rangi the mahara people are talkinga about gerrit
21:20 eythian rangi: oh, I was going to say: stocking up on a beer 30 minutes before giving blood would be an excellent idea :)
21:20 eythian > The Craft Beer TV Roadshow reaches Wellington tomorrow (Friday). We're told that the film crew on wheels will be at Hashigo Zake around lunchtime to capture some footage and, perhaps, the wisdom of some local identities in the craft beer business.
21:20 rangi kahu getting a blood test
21:20 rangi i gotta be at the blood thingy place at 12.30
21:19 rangi oh yeah?
21:18 eythian rangi: if you want to have a TV debut, there's apparently filming at Hashigo at lunch time today...:)
21:14 cait :)
21:14 rangi so far so good
21:14 cait how is friday?
21:13 cait long day
21:12 rangi :)
21:11 * cait is talking to herself
21:11 cait should check that tomorrow
21:11 cait hm I agree about the sip things - I think it even works with hebrew
21:10 cait hi rangi :)
21:09 rangi hi cait
21:09 cait hi eythian :)
21:09 eythian hoi cait
21:08 cait hi #koha
20:56 francharb1 bye all
20:44 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kxhHIOehQw
20:44 rangi here is the song i was looking for when i was talking about forward movement
20:43 rangi ahh found it
19:49 oleonard ...or maybe the other way around...
19:46 oleonard My catalog seems to be displaying "enumchron" but not "serialseq"
19:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5768 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, serial enumeration appearing twice in staff client
19:38 * oleonard wonders what kind of serials data you need to reproduce nengard's results in Bug 5768...
19:31 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
19:30 wizzyrea ohh nabble makes much prettier RSS feeds than gmane
19:28 mtj … theres some other little corrections needed for Koha stuff on nabble
19:28 wizzyrea to do that
19:28 * wizzyrea makes sure you have rights
19:27 mtj updating/correcting the nabble stuff might be my little project
19:24 wizzyrea I suspect it didn't
19:24 wizzyrea of things to check
19:24 * wizzyrea wonders if that broke the RSS feeds on the website, adds it to her list
19:24 rangi :)
19:22 mtj i've wanted that one fixed for a while now… ;)
19:21 mtj http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/
19:21 mtj http://nabble-support.1.n2.nabble.com/Request-to-update-Koha-ILS-mailing-lists-topic-page-with-new-website-address-td6029182.html
19:21 mtj oooh, nabble++
19:14 wizzyrea :)
19:14 rangi :)
19:14 rangi wizzyrea: not in my books it wont
19:14 mtj cheers liz
19:14 oleonard Hooray!
19:14 wizzyrea (the old url will still work, just fyi)
19:14 mtj wizzyrea++
19:13 wizzyrea you'll all be happy to know that the kudos website is now located at kudos.koha-community.org :)
18:58 rangi Ok my stop bbiab
18:57 rangi Sweet
18:57 sekjal or protocols or timeouts
18:57 sekjal if it's at the <service> level, you'd just be on different ports
18:55 rangi I guess u run 2 servers
18:55 rangi One new one old machine
18:55 rangi What if you have a mix?
18:55 rangi Yeah problem is
18:53 sekjal probably in <service>, rather than <accounts>
18:52 rangi Sweet
18:52 sekjal looking at the config file now, trying to think where I could dump the variable that makes sense
18:50 sekjal instead of hard-setting the value, use a config variable
18:50 sekjal the code I copied and modified has a conditional that could be expanded on easily enough
18:50 rangi Its all forward movement :)
18:50 rangi Cool
18:50 rangi Ahhh
18:49 sekjal yes, a config variable would be a good thing, if this isn't a univeral problem for all SIP machines
18:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4828 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Erroneous SIP2 behaviour with non ascii characters
18:49 sekjal bug 4828
18:49 sekjal he implemented it a different way
18:48 rangi Ahh what did he say? Same thing?
18:48 rangi I guess we need to add a config variable?
18:48 sekjal as well as dpavlin's comment on the bug report
18:47 sekjal yes
18:47 rangi sekjal: did you see fredericd email?
18:41 rangi That would be pretty fun
18:41 rangi I should submit it with all the wrong autocorrects
18:41 * rangi is writing his abstract for access
18:39 rangi I used it when I was at katipo at least
18:39 rangi Its been round a while
18:35 rangi Cool :)
18:35 nengard :)
18:35 nengard I've signed up :0
18:35 nengard rangi thanks for that open sauce link!!
18:34 rangi This bus is older than I am
18:32 rangi I may fall asleep but will try :)
18:32 rangi Hdl I will try to be at the persistance meeting
18:32 tcohen hdl: thanks
18:31 hdl have a nice evening
18:31 hdl tcohen: yes
18:29 tcohen i should: generate several xml files, run several zebraidx onthem at the same time?
18:29 tcohen hdl: i'll give it a try
18:28 tcohen for logging authorities add/mod/del actions
18:28 tcohen i'm just reading the Biblio.pm and AuthoritiesMarc.pm code to provide a patch for a bug i plan to open
18:28 hdl launch more than one zebraidx update at once
18:27 hdl tcohen: I guess it would be quite easy to test.
18:26 tcohen it's commented out, just before ModZebra in Biblio.pm
18:25 hdl Where is that function ModZebrafiles ?
18:24 tcohen is still open?
18:24 tcohen by the way, do u know if the bug in indexdata stuff that prevents us from use ModZebrafiles
18:23 tcohen yes
18:23 gmcharlt ReindexBiblio or RequestBiblioReindex or something like that?
18:22 tcohen I think we should call that function other way
18:21 gmcharlt tcohen: and?
18:21 tcohen Biblio::ModZebra -> if (nozebra,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
17:58 Brooke_ gero purpurum
17:57 rhcl I like purple.
17:57 rhcl is/was purple a semi-official Koha color?
17:55 sekjal all this flickr-ry has gotten me looking at my old albums...
17:55 Brooke_ Ms. Blake, QSM is in possession of a hoodie for instance
17:54 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3450085059/ <-- and tshirts with it on
17:54 Brooke_ :)
17:53 rhcl yea, ok. Looks like a gingerbread man, but I suppose he could be fashioned out of sourdough
17:52 gmcharlt rhcl: there once was a mascot - http://www.flickr.com/photos/gmcharlt/3446992795/
17:42 jcamins rangi: nifty.
17:42 Brooke_ probably bears a startling resemblance to the blobbies from the wayback
17:41 rangi http://www.theopensauce.com/
17:41 Brooke_ I think his sourdough starter
17:41 druthb as long as you open-source it. ;-)
17:41 druthb jcamins: I second the nomination of your sourcough starter.
17:38 rhcl A duck would be nice
17:38 rhcl and an official Koha bird
17:38 * jcamins suggests his sourdough starter makes an excellent mascot. :)
17:38 rhcl and a Koha mascot
17:38 rhcl and we need some official Koha colors
17:37 rhcl we need a koha-community one
17:37 wizzyrea liblime owns that
17:37 rangi +136 pushed
17:36 rhcl who gets the profits (if any) from this: http://shop.cafepress.com/koha
17:36 rangi 168!
17:35 rangi and while i mention it
17:35 rangi someone better sign off on it
17:33 wizzyrea woohoowoohoowoohoo
17:33 sekjal going to wrap it up and submit
17:33 * oleonard hands out hot pink calendar widgets for everyone
17:33 sekjal aaaaaaaaaaaand, the patch works at the second library (which also tested for patrons with diacritics in their names)
17:33 oleonard nengard: ...or your color of choice :)
17:32 Brooke_ dunno, got me cataloguing polo from cafespress in the before time
17:32 oleonard nengard: Your interim solution is to add this to IntranetUserCSS: div.calendar thead td.title { background: #DDD none; }
17:32 druthb I have used zazzle with decent results, though neither zazzle or cafepress has much in the way of plus-size women's stuff. Very annoying.
17:32 rangi http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/program/ <-- call for submissions just went out
17:31 rangi whats a good shirt place, that isnt cafepress?
17:31 rangi :)
17:27 liw rangi, I want that t-shirt too!
17:27 rangi liw created a monster :)
17:26 Brooke_ why do these people in my inbox not understand that I'm the c64 of cataloguing?
17:26 wizzyrea oh snap
17:26 rangi :)
17:26 rangi if its not packaged, ill make robin package it
17:26 rangi or
17:26 * Brooke_ cheers rangi
17:25 rangi i might put that on a tshirt
17:25 rangi if its not packaged, i dont want it
17:25 * wizzyrea must be unique: I have had so little issue with chrome
17:25 rangi because it is updated, and is in debian
17:25 rhcl http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-02/tuesdays-solar-flare-set-slam-earth-tonight
17:25 rhcl maybe you got hit early?
17:25 jcamins How does that even make sense?
17:24 jcamins Yup. Chrome crashed my computer by freezing the GPU.
17:24 rangi im all for using default jquery where we can
17:24 Brooke_ the unwashed masses have <3d oleonard's decisions in past.
17:22 nengard you're the expert so i defer to you on all design type decisions
17:22 oleonard The widget we use does have more features
17:22 oleonard nengard: What I'd like to do is ditch that calendar widget and use the default jQueryUI version, but I'm not sure if everyone would go for that
17:22 jcamins oleonard: funny you should mention that. It would seem Chrome on the Mac has lots of problems.
17:21 jcamins wizzyrea: not as difficult as computers make my job.
17:21 oleonard Obviously Chrome on the Mac has a problem with this.
17:21 wizzyrea jcamins: that will make your job difficult, no?
17:20 oleonard When you set the background color to "ActiveCaption" as it does, the browser is supposed to know what your computer's system uses for "Active window caption"
17:20 nengard so that means you can fix it? :)
17:20 * jcamins swears off of computers.
17:20 oleonard http://www.iangraham.org/books/xhtml1/appd/update-23feb2000.html
17:20 oleonard The calendar widget's CSS uses a now-deprecated CSS property called "system colors"
17:20 wizzyrea does it have to do with gnomes?
17:19 nengard do i want to hear it?
17:19 oleonard nengard: Your Mac/Chrome/Calendar bug has an interesting explanation
17:19 * druthb pounces on the "we love sekjal" bandwagon.
17:19 * druthb checks the log...
17:19 nengard :)
17:18 * wizzyrea loves sekjal in a "he fixes many problems that we care about can we please keep him" kind of way
17:18 Brooke_ >:)
17:18 sekjal Brooke_: don't think that your comment went unnoticed.
17:17 jcamins Things that are probably a bad sign: 1. I cannot restart my computer.
17:16 wizzyrea that bug has been an annoyance to us since we went live on koha
17:16 sekjal I based my work off http://www.mail-archive.com/open-ils-dev@list.georgialibraries.org/msg04127.html
17:15 wizzyrea way to spank the SIP into submission!
17:15 wizzyrea but seriously, good job
17:14 wizzyrea <3
17:14 wizzyrea I LOVE YOU.
17:14 sekjal wizzyrea: yes, that's what this patch does
17:14 wizzyrea through self checks?
17:14 sekjal testing with another client right now
17:14 wizzyrea does that mean we can check out pokémon now?
17:14 * Brooke_ ducks.
17:14 Brooke_ sekjal just does things for the attentions of the ladies.
17:14 * wizzyrea hugs sekjal
17:14 wizzyrea sekjal++
17:13 wizzyrea <3
17:13 Brooke_ :)
17:13 sekjal wehoo! got positive reports on a live SIP machine that my Unicode patch works
17:05 nengard both are west coast so i should be able to make it work
17:04 nengard but i'll see what i can work out
17:04 nengard kinda got to make an appearance
17:04 nengard internet librarian promotes my books - including the one that shold be out that month
17:04 rangi yeah, but access is about a million times cooler
17:03 nengard pretty close to internet librarian which is (October 17 ? 19, 2011)
17:03 nengard yikes
17:02 nengard rangi that's why i asked - cause i might be able to do that instead of kohacon
17:02 rangi that goes for everyone
17:02 rangi im speaking there, you should come
17:01 rangi nengard: http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/
16:59 * Brooke_ is overstimulated.
16:59 nengard i knew she'd be happy :)
16:58 Brooke_ kia ora!!!!
16:58 nengard and both boys used my wheelchair to get them through security faster :)
16:57 nengard yes, bengard kept sekjal company while i slept :)
16:57 nengard rangi what dates are the canada trip?
16:57 sekjal nengard and I were on the same planes, both ways, totally by accident, and it was very nice
16:57 nengard oleonard that's what i'll be doing :) hehe
16:56 druthb sekjal, jcamins: thanx. I'm relatively certain I could do it alone....but let's not tempt fate un-necessarily.
16:56 * oleonard will stay home and sulk
16:56 oleonard No rangi at KohaCon?!
16:56 rangi im going to be just getting back to nz from canada right about then, so might not be making it either
16:56 wizzyrea !!
16:55 jcamins Shari may want to come. Of course, last time Shari went to India she was sick for six months.
16:55 jcamins druthb: yes, that's a good idea.
16:55 * wizzyrea curses oleonard for now getting that stuck in my head
16:55 wizzyrea listen a few times it's not hard to learn >.>
16:54 jcamins Anyway, I've already been to Istanbul.
16:54 jcamins oleonard: I don't know the song very well.
16:54 sekjal druthb: yes, we can definitely arrange same-planes.
16:54 * druthb suspects she knows what oleonard linked, and resists the psuedo-rick-roll.
16:54 oleonard Yeah, but could you bear having the song in your head the whole time jcamins? http://vimeo.com/6746927
16:53 * druthb would prefer to fly *with* someone else, regardless of where. jcamins, sekjal, if you guys are going, let's plan for that, hm?
16:53 rangi 1903 $nzd is the cheapest i can get
16:52 * jcamins would prefer to fly through Istanbul than Abu Dhabi.
16:52 druthb istanbul makes for the cheapest route for me, via Chicago, of all things.
16:51 liw this is why the free software world needs its own Zeppelin
16:51 jcamins Istanbul is the least expensive from NYC.
16:50 druthb 1300-ish for me...DC to NYC then to Mumbai via either Doha or Abu Dhabi or Istanbul.
16:49 oleonard My wife will want to send me just so I won't grump around the house the whole week like I did in 2010.
16:49 nengard not traveling with a crutch again
16:48 oleonard But I hate to miss two in a row.
16:48 nengard me too
16:48 nengard yup
16:48 * oleonard was hoping for something a little closer this year
16:48 jcamins As little as ~$1100 from NYC.
16:48 nengard can't afford that two years in a row
16:48 nengard one of the reasons i won't be going
16:46 oleonard Travelocity says ~ $1200 from where I am.
16:46 liw India, eh
16:45 oleonard_ You just have to scroll down past "About this site"
16:45 liw ah, too obvious
16:45 jcamins liw: it's the front page. :)
16:45 liw and I can't find the blog url on koha-community.org easily
16:44 nengard liw, yes Thane was chosen
16:43 wizzyrea you lush
16:43 liw except for this channel, I'm entirely detached from Koha :(
16:43 rangi hehe, everyone is listening cept some tall koha dude who is too busy drinking
16:42 nengard liw read the blog :)
16:42 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/taniwha/5435806556/in/photostream/
16:42 liw has the location been decided?
16:42 * druthb is hoping the boss will send her to KohaCon 11
16:42 nengard nengard is going to miss kohacon 11
16:41 * sekjal is looking forward to KohaCon '11
16:40 * liw waves and regrets kohacon non-attendance
16:37 nengard wasn't sure what i was looking at in the far out pic
16:37 nengard rangi that is too funny
16:36 rangi gotta love foo camp
16:36 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/taniwha/5435199621/in/photostream/
16:36 rangi and close up
16:36 nengard (catching up on emails)
16:36 nengard oleonard++
16:36 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/taniwha/5435813502/in/photostream/
16:35 rangi heres a fun photo
16:33 nengard got it
16:32 sekjal nengard: I didn't give a talk, but I did stand up with an idea at one point
16:32 sekjal sometimes there is hissing... mostly at my cats, though
16:32 nengard sekjal i think you told me like 3 times that you gave a talk at kohacon09 ... such a crap memory
16:30 wizzyrea no he doesn't
16:30 wizzyrea wait
16:30 wizzyrea true story
16:30 wizzyrea he also hisses and has fangs
16:30 druthb gmcharlt: blame the camera.
16:29 * sekjal has a goth moment
16:29 gmcharlt (well, that's my story and I'm sticking by it ;) )
16:29 sekjal you can see that I'm naturally drawn to the shadows...
16:29 gmcharlt he moves so quickly that I couldn't get a clear picture
16:29 wizzyrea it is a rare sighting of sekjal in the wild
16:28 wizzyrea AHA
16:28 druthb My life, has been truly blessed by y'all.
16:28 * jcamins too
16:28 gmcharlt http://www.flickr.com/photos/gmcharlt/4379557354/
16:28 * druthb agrees with wizzyrea.
16:28 sekjal awww!
16:27 wizzyrea can I just say, I'm so grateful to have you all as friends.
16:27 rangi might be in galens or lees
16:27 rangi there is one
16:26 nengard okay i went through them all - no ian anywhere!
16:26 nengard :)
16:26 wizzyrea I remember this tho: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3446692207/in/set-72157616772558301/
16:26 nengard then again i was not happy at that time so i blocked a lot out
16:25 wizzyrea haha!
16:25 nengard i remember so little
16:25 nengard glad i'm not alone in this
16:25 nengard hehe
16:25 wizzyrea you know I did not remember that I had dinner with daniel grobani
16:24 wizzyrea that is a good one nengard
16:24 wizzyrea haha
16:24 wizzyrea http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3448509965/in/set-72157616772558301/
16:24 wizzyrea this is the cheesecake that joetho threw at pianohacker
16:23 nengard i like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3450102567/in/set-72157616772558301/
16:23 nengard wizzyrea that was fun :) hehe
16:23 druthb nengard has this talent for grabbing me in less-than-flattering photos. (It's not hard; she's not the only one with that particular talent)
16:23 wizzyrea i think the wal mart trip ones are my favorite lol
16:22 nengard wow i took some blurry pics
16:21 huginn druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
16:21 druthb @quote get 102
16:20 * jwagner chortles
16:20 jwagner druthb, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3450087337/in/set-72157616772558301/
16:20 druthb I don't think you would do that.
16:19 nengard I could leave you at that train station you know
16:19 nengard http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/sets/72157616772558301/
16:19 * druthb mutters something you cannot quite hear.
16:19 druthb hehehe...
16:19 nengard no comment from druthb needed
16:18 nengard i was running around like a maniac there
16:18 nengard I'll have to see if you're in any of them :)
16:18 nengard I didn't remember nate being there either until i went through my pics :)
16:18 sekjal yup
16:18 nengard ian you were there?
16:18 druthb KohaCon 09
16:18 nengard which conference?
16:18 druthb s/where/were/
16:17 druthb sekjal, if nengard didn't get any pix of you, then none where taken, I think. She was pretty camera-happy there.
16:17 sekjal yup, I think I managed to stay completely invisible for that conference.
16:16 * druthb waves to nengard from somewhere north of Baltimore.
16:14 * druthb was there, but is only in a few very-regrettable pictures, like that one.
16:13 * sekjal was there, but probably isn't in any of the pics
16:12 * oleonard gets sucked into looking at KohaCon photos...
16:10 * jcamins is ~1m76 tall. Quite a lot shorter.
16:10 druthb well, yes, I would. Now, who is *this* hairy beast? http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3453204741
16:09 paul_p for everyone information: i'm 1m94 So tall, but not NBA-size tall ;-)
16:09 jcamins druthb: you'd be kind of intimidatingly tall as a hobo, too.
16:08 druthb that's schuster with him in the flickr pic, jcamins, and schuster is kinda shortish; I'm nearly a full head taller than schuster, so paul_p is about eyebrows-up taller than me.
16:07 jcamins :)
16:07 jcamins And, indeed, very classy.
16:07 jcamins Wow. Yes, intimidatingly tall.
16:06 oleonard http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3450102567/
16:06 paul_p jcamins, choose the one you want : http://www.google.com/images?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=paul+poulain&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=fr&tab=wi&biw=1676&bih=907 :D
16:05 oleonard paul_p would also make for an intimidatingly tall homeless man
16:05 * jcamins tries to picture paul_p as a homeless hobo and fails. He doesn't know what paul_p looks like.
16:05 * oleonard was thinking the same thing
16:05 * druthb tries to picture paul_p as a homeless hobo, and fails. He'd look classy even doing that...
16:04 druthb paul_p++
16:01 gmcharlt paul_p++
16:01 paul_p oleonard, lol. How life would be easier without librarians... hey... but ... without librarians no libraries, no Koha, no BibLibre, no money for my family, homeless man. Well, all counted, good customers :D
16:01 jcamins Yes, what's baffling to me is all the finding! They're finding edge cases for me that I would _never_ find on my own.
16:00 oleonard Ah, then the customers are doing valuable bug-hunting!
16:00 jcamins oleonard: no, pesky bugs!
16:00 oleonard Pesky customers ;)
15:59 jcamins Wrong window.
15:59 jcamins Whoops, sorry about that last.
15:59 * paul_p sing a french song to help kahu falling asleep again...
15:58 jcamins I don't understand how Farmington comes up with so many problems.
15:54 * druthb would use tranquilizer darts, but they might not work on kiwis, because of the mis-spelling.
15:53 rangi heh
15:50 * druthb seeks out the tranquiliser darts.
15:49 gmcharlt rangi: just don't confuse the two ;)
15:49 * jwagner sends rangi a stiff drink :-)
15:49 * jwagner sends Kahu sympathy and Pepto-Bismol
15:47 rangi and yes, i shouldnt be awake, kahu has a stomach bug :(
15:46 rangi druthb: there's an easy fix for that, run a ssh server on port 80, thats what i do
15:41 * druthb spends too much of her time crawling around in the low-level protocols of the Internets, possibly.
15:40 druthb oleonard: That is, in fact, the case here--I'm having to use Mibbit, and SSH is no-go. whole big chunks of the Internet landscape are blacked out... :P
15:39 oleonard "Oh man the internet here in western Kansas is awful! All I can get is farming web sites!"
15:39 jwagner oleonard, Google Maps takes over the Internet?
15:39 oleonard Imagine if you could only receive certain parts of the internet depending on where you were on the road.
15:38 jwagner But not as useful in pacifying the "are we there yet" backseat crowd, unless all of them have laptops/wifi devices :-)
15:37 jcamins jwagner: it's much the same thing... wifi is part of the electromagnetic spectrum, too.
15:37 * druthb giggles.
15:37 jwagner Ya know, I remember complaints from various road trips in the dim and distant pass, where the silver lining was "at least the radio works" -- my how times change....
15:35 * druthb is stuck on I-95 somewhere between DC and Bawlmer...but at least the wi-fi sorta works.
15:34 * druthb puts on her seatbelt, just for good measure.
15:34 druthb thanx, jwagner. :)
15:34 * jwagner hands druthb the Velcro
15:23 rhcl you have to use an onion router then
15:22 druthb lol
15:22 wahanui ...but rda is a room in a twisty maze of standards...
15:22 druthb wahanui: RDA is ready
15:21 jcamins I wonder what Wahanui was responding to.
15:21 jcamins the answer as soon as rda?
15:21 rhcl beats me. Not my day to watch hudson
15:20 jcamins i'll give you the answer as soon as rda?
15:20 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
15:20 huginn rhcl_away: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:20 rhcl_away @hudson translate "Lorsque j'affecte un ticket à un "Groupe demandeur" les membres de ce groupe ne visualisent pas le ticket en question (à l'exception évidemment du demandeur originel)."
15:20 rhcl_away wouldn't it be cool if hudson could translate? something like:
15:19 magnuse druthb: the airport shuttle in wellington has that, apparently ;-)
15:18 druthb Wi-fi on a *bus*. who knew?
15:16 nengard webinar time - ttyl
15:16 jcamins thd: if they have that many people attending, I'd say so!
15:15 thd I expect that VPM will need some large hall for KohaCon.
15:13 hdl btw paul_p would you also announce the Kohala meeting soon in France on koha lists ?
15:00 * thd level of French still seems less than a one year old. Such a difficult language.
14:59 thd s/sounds/words/
14:58 thd paul_p: French seems half English if written out. The bigger problem is that the French speak to quickly and I cannot separate the sounds well enough.
14:57 nengard thd looks like a setting is off on limesurvey or on my server
14:56 * magnuse ducks
14:56 kf no, the real pain is that _I_ don't speak french
14:56 magnuse ok, we could give them/you some years to learn english first... ;-)
14:56 * kf ducks
14:56 kf yep, that's really a pain
14:55 kf paup_p: same thought here
14:55 paul_p magnuse, you know what's the pain with frenchies ? they speak french :D
14:55 jcamins magnuse: if they did that they'd only get one Koha conference. I can see the logic.
14:55 magnuse paul_p: no interest in expanding the french conf to a global conf for one year?
14:55 thd nengard: Do you know why the timestamps are all the same?
14:54 magnuse i would suggest having two or even three kohacons before it can return to the same country/continent, or we might end up alternating between the us and india (which are both fine countries, but giving europe, africa, oceania... a chance now and then would be nice too ;-)
14:54 kf hmpf :)
14:53 paul_p Note that France already had the 1st KohaCon (in 2006), and there is a yearly french conference organized by Kohala. So i don't think anyone will candidate for a long time
14:52 paul_p lol
14:51 kf hehe
14:51 nengard hehe
14:51 jcamins kf: that would make sense, though paul_p would probably suggest that France and England are continents apart. ;)
14:51 nengard makes sense
14:51 nengard that's fine with me too
14:50 kf not the same continent twice
14:50 kf perhaps continent would be better
14:50 nengard I'll set it up whenever you all ask me to do so
14:50 nengard agreed
14:50 nengard yes
14:50 magnuse yeah, and lets get that ball rolling the sooner the better ;-)
14:50 nengard so India can't win again next year
14:50 nengard and we already said it won't be in the same country two times in a row
14:49 jcamins :)
14:49 jcamins Fortunately there will be another KohaCon next year, so anyone who feels aggrieved can submit another proposal.
14:49 nengard k
14:49 thd As long as it is seen to be fair and sufficiently transparent that is fine.
14:48 nengard yup
14:47 thd I found the number of votes a little surprising but South Asia is very densely populated.
14:47 nengard there were a couple names that weren't real but not enough to skew the results
14:47 nengard no names or emails were repeated
14:47 nengard there is an excessive duplication of info - but that's on the institution level and you can see that on the wiki
14:46 thd nengard: I assumed that you checked for excessive duplications of info :)
14:46 wizzyrea ^^ clear enough for me
14:46 nengard I did say I'd share with anyone if you asked for it
14:46 wizzyrea it's clear to me anyway
14:45 nengard thd do you want me to send it to you?
14:45 wizzyrea I think that's clear
14:45 thd wizzyrea: As long as it is clear that it is available for inspection then we have a sufficiently transparent process.
14:45 nengard thd we can send you the raw results - but we don't want that posted on the wiki where others can grab our info
14:45 kf but I remember the word anonymous
14:45 kf not sure what the statement on the front page exactly said
14:45 kf wizzyrea: I don't think it would be right to do it
14:44 wizzyrea but could likely be provided on request, correct?
14:44 wizzyrea we *have* the info, it's just not *public*
14:43 thd gmcharlt: If we have no identifying info then we have an easy case for voter fraud with an open electorate.
14:43 nengard emails and names
14:43 thd nengard: All identifying info?
14:42 gmcharlt http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/images/Kohacon2011-site-survey-results-anonymized.csv
14:41 nengard i sent it to galen - but he's removing all identifying info before he uploads it
14:41 thd nengard: Are you able to upload a CSV file now?
14:41 jcamins In no time at all my youngest brother is going to be driving.
14:40 jcamins 8 years.
14:40 wizzyrea how much younger is he?
14:40 * jcamins is too busy being horrified by the fact that his second-to-youngest brother can *drive* to focus on the question at hand, sorry.
14:40 wizzyrea maybe owen did something...
14:39 wizzyrea we really ought to have a stock answer for that
14:39 kf hm, there is the first post on the website - but it's perhaps not specific enough
14:39 wizzyrea or a mailing list post
14:39 wizzyrea something already done
14:39 wizzyrea does anyone remember a definitive blog post that we could point him to
14:38 wizzyrea where to even start there.
14:37 wizzyrea oh my
14:35 kf hm who is going to answer that mail on [koha]?
14:34 jcamins My second-to-youngest brother passed his driving test.
14:31 wizzyrea lovely breeze from the south
14:30 wizzyrea awesome, but weird.
14:30 wizzyrea ^^ it's feb. In kansas. That is not right.
14:30 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 15.3�C (8:32 AM CST on February 17, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000.2 hPa (Falling).
14:30 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
14:29 nengard hehe
14:29 wizzyrea so it counts :)
14:29 wizzyrea but he *asks* to play in the tub with toys... with water and soap
14:29 jcamins wizzyrea: well, of course. A bath is probably cruel and unusual too.
14:28 wizzyrea do note the word "bath" is nowhere in that phrase
14:28 wizzyrea he'd much rather "play in the tub with toys"
14:28 nengard ha!
14:28 wizzyrea so does my 3 year old
14:28 jcamins My cat says taking a shower constitutes cruel and unusual punishment.
14:27 wizzyrea I consider taking showers important, yes :)
14:27 jwagner But at least his sourdough is joining the conversation now
14:27 kf because you are busy with the important things? :)
14:27 jcamins I, too, missed the discussion of chorizo.
14:27 wizzyrea :)
14:27 jcamins Ah.
14:26 kf lol
14:26 wizzyrea I missed the discussion of chorizo, world travel, and your cat
14:26 jcamins wizzyrea: why's that?
14:26 wizzyrea I always miss the fun conversation
14:24 jcamins I decided to just disable the network card so that no e-mail would go out.
14:24 jcamins Ah.
14:24 kf the longoverdoes thing
14:24 kf jcamins: we never tried to use it - but perhaps you should ask her about it
14:24 jcamins kf: which script?
14:24 kf jcamins: I think druthb said this script needs to be rewritetn
14:21 tcohen jcamins :D
14:20 jcamins My cat is also interested to hear more. ;)
14:20 jcamins tcohen: that sounds like a good idea to me.
14:17 tcohen (about such a feature)
14:17 tcohen has anyone thoght about it before and has some concerns?
14:16 tcohen i'm just about to fill a bug asking for authorities add/change/remove logging
14:00 jcamins Does the long overdue task send e-mails?
13:46 nengard the survey app generated an ugly pdf :)
13:46 jcamins paul_p: I think that's the way it is, because I noticed lots of blank pages too.
13:46 nengard paul_p most pages are blank
13:46 jcamins I think paul_p's first guess was right.
13:45 paul_p nengard, is it my pdf reader or most pages are almost blank with a small "HT" in a square and a few grey lines ?
13:45 jcamins Huh.
13:43 jcamins paul_p: also, my time on the continent of Asia was limited to Afghanistan, so I hardly count that as representative either.
13:43 nengard PDF of results linked here: http://koha-community.org/kohacon-2011-votes/
13:43 magnuse yeah, congrats to thane!
13:41 hdl Congrats Thane
13:41 paul_p nope. Because France is so beautifull & special & wonderfull & great & cute & ... that you can't compare it to any other country in the world ! (ps : kidding ;-) )
13:40 jcamins paul_p: I thought France was implied.
13:40 paul_p (carefull readers noticing that Spain/switzerland & norway are just 3, not 4 :D)
13:40 jcamins I've also only been to Morocco in Africa, so that hardly counts at all.
13:40 kf paul_p++
13:39 jcamins paul_p: eventually I'll visit every single country, but right now visiting every continent is a challenge. ;)
13:39 paul_p jcamins, well, in Europe, it's so different between Spain, Switzerland, norway (just to name 4), that you can't just say "i've been to Europe". Well... it's the same for most continents, I agree ;-)
13:38 magnuse hehe
13:38 * jcamins thinks this settles it- clearly KohaCon 2012 needs to be in Antarctica. ;)
13:38 jcamins I've been to North America, Europe, Asia, and Africa, though. :)
13:36 jcamins Nor Australia/Oceania, for that matter.
13:36 * jcamins has never been to South America or Antarctica.
13:36 kf hehe
13:35 magnuse antarctica!
13:35 jcamins South America!
13:35 kf europe!
13:34 magnuse hm, if the us and india are the biggies of the koha world we could end up with kohacon there alternate years, there should be some guarantee that other continents get a chance too, i think
13:33 paul_p (in Africa, i've a doubt anyone could volunteer to organize, but a reliable project would have my vote, no doudts !)
13:33 paul_p ++ with the idea of rotating : next year in Europe or Africa !
13:32 paul_p kf++ (for anonymous results)
13:26 nengard okey dokey kf
13:26 nengard I can send the raw results to anyone who wants to see
13:25 kf nengard: the survey said it's anonymous on the front page - so I think we should not post the data on the wiki or elsewhere
13:25 magnuse nengard: ah, ok good
13:25 nengard but maybe we need more rules so it rotates around the world better
13:25 nengard magnuse I think we already agreed it won't be in the same country two years in a row
13:24 nengard It looks like it was mostly people in India
13:24 magnuse i agree with nengard, we might want to settle some rules to make sure kohacon will alternate between continents/countries and then vote on 2012
13:24 paul_p my bet= it's option 1 that is the occuring one. nengard if you want/can confirm?
13:23 paul_p 877: 2 options = either there are 700 from India, and it clearly show a BIG interest for Koha in India, so it's good to have the KohaCon in India, or the votes are equally splitted around the world, and it's good to see 877 ppl are interested by the KohaCon11 !
13:22 magnuse yeah, that was quite a clear victory! ;-) and 877 votes is amazing
13:20 magnuse ah
13:19 nengard email
13:19 magnuse huh?
13:17 nengard by a landside
13:17 nengard heh
13:17 jcamins India. :)
13:16 jcamins Woohoo!
13:15 paul_p hi jcamins & sourdough
13:13 * magnuse greets the sourdough
13:07 * kf waves to the sourdough
13:06 jwagner Hi to the sourdough!
13:02 jcamins My sourdough starter says "hi" too.
12:57 magnuse day!
12:57 NateC morning!
12:57 magnuse hiya NateC
12:52 jwagner Hi magnuse
12:52 magnuse hiya jwagner
12:29 magnuse good morning jcamins and nengard
12:29 nengard morning jcamins and #koha
12:27 jcamins Good morning, #koha
12:20 magnuse oh no! ;-)
12:15 druthb kf would have seen *us* all drop off abruptly, just as we saw her and the rest drop. so maybe it was us on the dark side... :P
12:11 magnuse the dark side? *shivers*
12:10 druthb magnuse: that happens when multiple IRC servers serve the same IP, in a load-balancer scheme. Those folks were all on the *other* side.
12:09 druthb and we're all back! :D
12:07 magnuse has the internet split? doesn't sound good!
12:06 magnuse que?
12:06 druthb oooh.... a netsplit!
11:54 magnuse this one was from when my wife went to the canary islands earlier this winter :-)
11:51 * druthb is a big fan of chorizo. *good* chorizo is kind of hard to get here in DC.
11:50 magnuse in norwegian "artig" means funny... ;-)
11:49 * kf is not the best translator
11:48 kf 2 scheiben brot, eine mit Chorizo aus Spanien und eine mit lokal hergestelltem camenbertartigem käse
11:47 kf hm
11:42 magnuse kf: two slices of bread, one with chorizo from spain and one with locally made camambert-style cheese
11:41 kf magnuse: what is for lunch?
11:39 * kf wonders what magnus has
11:38 druthb ooo...granola with pecans! yum.
11:37 kf I had müsli mit pekannuss
11:37 kf :)
11:36 druthb Probably. This was some deli-sliced turkey, put it in as an experiment. Came out good!
11:36 kf because I seldom eat truthahn probably :)
11:35 druthb damn automated translation. I don't think we've bumped into that word before!
11:35 * druthb giggles insanely.
11:33 kf türkei is the country :)
11:33 kf druthb: it's truthahn
11:33 kf türkei?
11:31 * druthb just cooked up an omelett med kalkun og ost...or an omelett mit käse und türkei, if you prefer...
11:28 druthb hee hee...
11:28 magnuse that reminds me: lunchtime!
11:28 magnuse ooh, good one
11:27 druthb Käsefondue. mmmmmm
11:26 magnuse good to know. sauerkraut!
11:26 * druthb has learned some interesting German words from kf. Mostly foods--when KohaCon gets held in Germany, I won't starve.
11:25 magnuse hehe
11:25 druthb I'm trying to greet more of my friends in their own language, even if I can't get any more than that. :) For jwagner, I think the appropriate term is "Play Ball!" shouted enthusiastically. She speaks Baseball.
11:24 magnuse and: god morgen|kveld = good morning|evening
11:23 magnuse :-)
11:23 magnuse druthb: yep
11:22 druthb magnus: would "god dag" be saying it correctly?
11:21 druthb :) guten tag, kf.
11:21 kf hi druthb :)
11:19 druthb hi, magnus! :)
11:18 magnuse hiya druthb
11:05 magnuse have you got any participants outside biblibre yet?
11:05 magnuse paul_p: i think i probably will
10:59 paul_p magnuse, come to Marseille, the weather is better ;-) (in April, don't forget your swimming suit, the sea is usually OK)
10:58 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0�C (11:30 AM CET on February 17, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady).
10:58 paul_p @wunder marseille, france
10:20 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0�C (10:50 AM CET on February 17, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
10:20 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway
10:18 magnuse oops, cloned myself by accident
09:19 huginn rangi: Quote #29: "< CGI634> kill self now avoid slow cataloging death" (added by chris at 09:32 PM, September 02, 2009)
09:19 rangi @quote random
09:19 huginn rangi: Quote #106: "<jwagner> Bah, humbug" (added by druthb at 01:31 PM, November 29, 2010)
09:19 rangi @quote random
08:48 rangi thanks
08:47 paul_p rangi, thx for this discussion, sweet dreams !
08:44 * magnuse is going to read this, about bibsys and oclc: http://www.researchinformation.info/features/feature.php?feature_id=308
08:41 kf hehe
08:40 magnuse (and took it with her to work, of course...)
08:39 rangi :)
08:39 magnuse rangi: Kiritaki Koha looks interesting, too bad my wife has the only android in the house... :-)
08:39 kf bugzilla++ :)
08:38 magnuse paul_p: good plan
08:36 rangi lots of nicer webservices
08:36 rangi http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.0/release-notes.html#v40_feat_ws_changes
08:36 rangi nicer advanced search too
08:36 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/query.cgi
08:35 paul_p Autocomplete for Users and Keywords => this one too !
08:34 rangi this will be helpful
08:34 rangi http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.0/release-notes.html#v40_feat_dup
08:34 paul_p (hopefully, after the 6months, we will hire him :D )
08:34 rangi http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.0/release-notes.html
08:33 rangi cool paul_p
08:33 rangi ok, running version 4 now
08:33 magnuse paul_p: cool!
08:25 paul_p all: it's confirmed we have a student, starting on march 1st, for 6 months, that will be at least half-time dedicated to working on Koha patches integration & sign-off &...
08:24 rangi cool thanks
08:23 paul_p rangi, ok, will try to do that. Probably not today, but will do !
08:22 rangi yes, it would be
08:21 paul_p ('morning kf)
08:21 paul_p so it could be usefull if I attach to 5575 some follow-ups on git.biblibre.com, with patch id and/or branch ?
08:20 rangi then we can check for follow ups
08:20 rangi when i have made bugs for all the parts of 5575
08:19 rangi for those ones, ill need you to update the bug with where to get it from
08:19 paul_p (not yesterday, feb 14th
08:19 paul_p rangi, for example the patch 195ec93559277 I pushed yesterday (branch MT5441)
08:19 kf hi paul_p
08:18 kf good morning #koha
08:18 paul_p rangi, that's a good idea. But the problem is that new fixes are related to new MT from libraries. So a patch may be related to something in members, but don't contains any visible link to 5575
08:16 rangi usually by searching the log for the MT
08:16 rangi yeah thats why its taking me a while because i am looking for the fixes on your other repo
08:13 paul_p (related to the branches you're merging or not)
08:13 paul_p I would say that's something like 60 patches
08:12 paul_p rangi, another question : there are already some bugfixes on some of those branches. how do you think we should deal with them ? 40% are patches not in a topic branch on git.biblibre.com and 60% of them are in a topic branch (and now, it should be 100% or 95%) ?
08:11 rangi so i might try upgrading
08:11 rangi bugzilla 4 is out
08:09 rangi yes that would be perfect
08:06 paul_p ok, so what I could do usefull would be to check all the bugs related to 5574/5575, and, for those who are "pushed, pls test", test & close !
08:05 paul_p too bad the dependancy graph don't display the status of the bug. That would really be handy !
08:04 rangi like 5760
08:04 rangi then when its signed off it gets made into a branch and merged
08:02 rangi and sent to the koha-patches list
08:02 rangi its attached to the bug
08:00 paul_p the 5432 is "patch sent / needs signoff", so I should have it on kc isn't it ?
07:57 rangi but already some signed off and merged so getting there :)
07:57 rangi 5575 is about halfway
07:57 rangi 5574 has all its patches attached
07:57 rangi etc
07:57 rangi http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/biblibre/bug_5575/bug_5728
07:56 paul_p ok, got it!
07:56 rangi yep thats right
07:56 paul_p ah, OK. So catalyst repo is for wip, while kc is for "sign-off/test"
07:56 rangi the important thing to check is the patch status
07:56 rangi no im sending patches when i have check the patch applies and i have grouped all the common changes together
07:55 paul_p I think i'm still missing something with your workflow. I thought you putted topic branches on kc once you've checked the patch applied. Am I missing something?
07:55 rangi if they dont have a patch attached, its because i think there are more patches later to be added
07:55 rangi if they have a patch attached i have finished merging them and testing them
07:54 rangi if patch pushed, they are in master
07:54 paul_p why are they on catalyst repo & not on koha-community ?
07:53 paul_p they are pushed in master or in topic branches ?
07:53 rangi need testing, so they can be marked resolved
07:53 rangi the ones with patch pushed
07:53 rangi yep, i havent pushed that yet but yu can see it in the catalyst repo
07:53 hdl hi
07:53 paul_p 5730 = nothing to say/add
07:52 rangi i think just carrying the surname is probably the best, but the main change needed there is to update both inc
07:52 paul_p 5728= nothing to say/add
07:52 paul_p i'm afraid othernames & initials are used for different things depending on countries...
07:51 paul_p 5432 = hdl answered. Do you think we should fix something ?
07:49 paul_p (yes, really, he said humanist...)
07:49 rangi humanist? crazy
07:49 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencytree.cgi?id=5575&hide_resolved=1
07:48 paul_p (back to 5575 ;-) )
07:48 paul_p french govt gave the "legion d'honneur" yesterday to Steve Ballmer :( President Sarkozy said "we are happy to have Microsoft investing in France, and are grateful for this humanist company" (i'm not kidding, hélas...)
07:48 rangi this week i have been working on 5575
07:48 rangi yep
07:45 paul_p (debriefing = frenchism suspected...)
07:45 paul_p hi rangi. do you have a few mn now for a weekly debriefing ?
07:44 rangi hi paul_p
07:43 paul_p hello world
07:37 rangi evening
06:58 francharb hello #koha
06:35 snail evening all
06:10 SandeepBhavsar hi all
06:07 * Brooke_ grunts.
06:07 wahanui Brooke_: excuse me?
06:07 Brooke_ wahanui: Te RÅpÅ« Whakahau
06:06 Brooke_ whanui: Te RÅpÅ« Whakahau?
06:01 Brooke_ tsc.
06:01 wahanui i haven't a clue, brooke_
06:01 Brooke_ wahanui: MÄori?
06:01 * Brooke_ gasps.
06:01 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, brooke_
06:01 Brooke_ wahanui: Maori?
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01:59 ibeardslee hmmm that also pretty much answers another thing that had been running through my mind
01:45 thd eythian++
01:35 rangi yeah
01:35 eythian so reviews and ratings and so forth get shared between libraries.
01:34 rangi the related subjects thing is about 80% done
01:34 eythian I like the idea of having a Koha-data server thing that allows library/borrower submitted data that ends up being shared amongst Koha isntances that enable it.
01:34 rangi because they have good api, and do good things
01:33 rangi we should make more use of open library
01:33 thd Open Library will not use Amazon APIs because they want unencumbered metadata.
01:32 rangi makes it harder to sell your soul
01:32 rangi thats why you want proper licenses
01:32 thd ethian: IMDB was communal until they sold out to Amazon. CDDB was communal until they sold out to Gracenote.
01:31 rangi dicks
01:31 eythian yeah
01:31 rangi yeah, unusable by a library
01:30 eythian http://www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf?usedatasoftware
01:30 rangi paying money and still not being able to actually use it, that worries me
01:30 eythian That sucks, the whole point of IMDB originally was that it was a communal database.
01:30 rangi money doesnt worry me either
01:30 rangi whats the license on it?
01:30 eythian yeah, just poking through the site.
01:29 thd eythian: They charge real money now, https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1101&L=NGC4LIB&T=0&F=&S=&P=23504 .
01:28 eythian nope
01:27 thd eythian: Do you still have the data?
01:27 eythian Probably. I used the data for a database class in ... 2001 or '02, so a bit more than several years.
01:26 thd eythian: Was that before Amazon bought them?
01:26 eythian you can also download all of IMDB in SQL (at least, last I looked several years ago)
01:25 rangi see broken reviews
01:25 eythian well, by scraping, I mean some way of fetching it all. But yeah.
01:25 rangi they do of course keep changing them
01:25 thd However, Amazon does not favour truly open data.
01:25 thd eythian: There is are APIs from Amazon which avoids the need for scraping.
01:24 rangi *nod*
01:24 thd rangi: Galen is pursuing the GPLS dependency issue but he has been busy with forming the legal organisation for Evergreen.
01:23 rangi either works ;)
01:23 thd rangi: or AGPL 3 :)
01:22 rangi thd: you might like to email, ask if he wants to release it under gpl3
01:22 thd rangi: Exactly.
01:22 rangi freeware interests me not at all
01:22 rangi which is why i dont get excited by either
01:21 rangi same with marcedit
01:21 eythian writing a * to marc converter would be easy provided you had a way of scraping all the required information
01:21 thd rangi: We could fix the bugs and make many enhancements.
01:21 thd rangi: Exactly.
01:20 rangi without that, everything else is pointless
01:20 rangi yes, but not to my what license is it under
01:20 thd s/responed/responded/
01:20 eythian That's pretty odd
01:20 thd rangi: Has he responed?
01:20 eythian the marc in the item marc view isn't complete, it has no subfield indicators.
01:19 rangi i emailed charles about them
01:19 thd rangi: It is only the conversion tools which interest me.
01:19 rangi yeah
01:19 thd rangi: The Amazon to MARC 21 conversions are interesting despite some problems.
01:19 rangi yeah thats a particularly crap site
01:18 thd rangi: Unfortunately the download seems to be missing http://chopac.org/down.html .
01:18 rangi what am i looking for?
01:18 rangi k
01:18 thd rangi: see http://chopac.org
01:17 rangi nothing
01:16 thd rangi: What do you know about the Chopac ILS?
01:16 rangi yes
01:16 thd rangi: are you present?