Time Nick Message 21:42 * Brooke_ removes a few bricks while slef isn't looking. 21:41 * slef continues battering the brick wall with his head 21:06 * Brooke_ waves to ronald 20:46 rangi heya Brooke_ 20:46 Brooke_ kia ora 20:46 druthb hi, Brooke! :) 19:44 magnuse gotta go - see y'all tomorrow! 19:35 darling yup -- my mom would have been a great software geek 19:32 liw that's a bit like programming, especially with TDD 19:25 darling I asked her much later why she liked that sort of work - she said is was really satisfying when the numbers finally work out 19:24 magnuse cool! 19:23 darling lots of buttons and clacky bits 19:23 darling when I was little my mom made accounting look fun to me -- had one of those gigantic mechanical adding machines 19:22 magnuse might not be the best word - incentive, maybe... :) 19:22 ibeardslee inspiration accounting .. is that different to the creative sort? 19:22 ibeardslee 'inspiration' and accounting eh? 19:21 cait hope I will be able to finish my course without it 19:20 magnuse cait: that is an all important source of inspiration when it comes to accounting... 19:17 cait magnuse: probably I am missing the practical need :) 19:16 rangi back 19:15 darling hi 19:15 darling liw! 19:14 liw darling, hi there! 19:09 magnuse otherwise i will hide in here... :) 19:07 magnuse the course i am going to will be very practical, mostly how to use the acc system i use, an i feel a real need for it, so it will be good i hope... 18:59 cait hard to make progress there 18:58 cait my current distance study course is accounting 18:58 cait uh accounting 18:57 magnuse hehe 18:57 magnuse then a one day course on accounting on the friday in the week after next 18:57 * cait will try not to distract you too much :) 18:56 magnuse will be good to get some actual work done :) 18:56 magnuse woohoo 18:55 cait yay :) 18:55 magnuse cait: i will show up every day as far as thursday next week 18:54 cait will you show up next week? or leave me alone again? ;) 18:53 magnuse guten abend cait 18:52 cait hi magnus :) 18:50 magnuse hiya druthb 18:50 magnuse kia ora #koha - checking in from OSL 18:50 druthb hi, magnuse! :D 18:48 darling good morning, koha 18:07 slef I guess why I get a bit frustrated when finding things like hardcoded zebra parameters ignoring the config file is that it means that someone has got poor code into our beloved koha again. 18:03 wahanui1 slef: Please state the nature of the technical emergency 18:03 slef wow, excuse the obnoxious JS overlay, that appeared after I pasted 18:02 slef http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110206/NEWS04/102060307/-1/NEWSMAP 17:57 * druthb had never heard of a pierogi before moving to DC; now she's a big fan of them. 17:57 rangi bbl 17:57 rangi and now i really should get them ready 17:57 rangi liw: i told her to call it hand egg 17:56 rangi and she is taking them in for all the kids at kindergarten 17:56 rangi :) 17:56 slef Too slow to make from scratch ;-) I buy packets. 17:55 slef I know them. 17:55 rangi laurel spent the weekend making http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierogi 17:55 rangi heh 17:55 slef ;-) 17:55 slef oh yeah, US teen sex trade peak day 17:55 rangi superbowl, pittsburgh vs green bay 17:54 slef ? 17:52 rangi because their mum is a pittsburgher, today is a big day for them 17:51 rangi ok, time to go start getting the kids ready for kindegarten 17:51 rangi but then i had a hmm, shouldnt this be escaped moment too 17:50 rangi actually my main worry is its talking to the db at all, ignoring things like sysprefs and circrules 17:49 slef irony has died through overwork 17:49 slef heh, linking to opensource.org for the gpl? really? 17:49 rangi right, i suspect (not sure) that you can manipulate it with a url 17:48 slef so I think whether that code is safe depends on whether vufind's $id is trustworthy 17:48 rangi hokay, i might put write a patch, on my ever growing list 17:48 rangi ahhh 17:47 slef That's why so much PHP is an injection haven. 17:47 rangi i think the real win for taht driver is to rewrite it to use the ilsdi api 17:47 slef rangi: basic PHP doesn't do placeholders. You have to http://php.net/mysql_real_escape_string or cast (like "foo = ".((int)$foo) ) everything you can't trust. 17:45 slef back for a mo 17:42 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 17:42 rangi @later tell slef specifically how do you do sql placeholders in php, cos that looks sql injectiony to my untrained eye 17:42 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 17:42 rangi @later tell slef it was this https://vufind.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vufind/trunk/web/Drivers/Koha.php i was asking about php for 17:41 rangi heh 17:41 liw *some* days people 86401 seconds! 17:40 rangi and the separation actually works pretty well, until we understand zebra more, i quite like that one site cant take out the indexes for all the others 17:39 cait not if you want to get some sleep 17:39 rangi well, people care, but people have 24 hours in a day too 17:38 slef bbl 17:38 slef I think it's 24Mb empty. No-one cares about wasting memory and unnecessary hardcoding any more? 17:38 cait hi rangi 17:38 druthb :D 17:38 rangi hiya druthb 17:35 rangi memory footprint is small enough, and reduces the risk of one site messing up the others 17:33 slef rangi: :-( 17:33 rangi slef: yes they do 17:31 * slef looks at the packages 17:30 slef heh "FIXME: this should be handled using Context.pm" :-/ 17:30 * slef still hasn't got to checking them out 17:29 slef rangi: do the packages run multiple zebras? 17:29 * druthb waves to rangi 17:29 rangi you might want to check out how liw and robin set that up, it works well 17:28 rangi slef: for the packages and running multiple kohas, we ended up copying most 17:27 slef oh crikey, it's even worse :-( 17:13 cait thx slef :) 17:13 cait ah 17:10 slef cait: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Re-Vote-for-Koha-Con-2011-tp3369597p3372058.html 17:02 cait hijack post? 17:01 druthb :) Opinions vary, and we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one....I'm happier than I've been in a 20 year career in the library biz, so it's not all bad. 17:01 slef erm, need the blowback 17:01 slef BTW, reed++ for the "hijack" post. I wouldn't write that just now because I don't need to blowback. 17:00 slef druthb: you're still not working for the best, but you're not on the dark side any more. 16:54 cait flash-- 16:54 cait it keeps dying on me every few minutes 16:54 cait zdf_mediathek-- 16:53 slef hrm, it seems lots of zebra files have to be copies to run two in one 16:53 * druthb is glad she's not working for PTFS/LL any more, so that self will share these useful bits of knowledge with her. 16:53 cait I never met steve tonneson 16:53 slef IIRC, but check history for who did what when 16:53 slef Steve Tonneson did it before me, hdl, chris_n and others since me 16:51 cait I am a big fan of the installer too 16:49 druthb slef++ , retroactively, for that, since it has made her life pretty dang wonderful. 16:49 slef particularly getting the installer to play nice 16:49 druthb :) 16:49 slef I did some work on getting koha to run on VirtualHosts 16:48 slef heh 16:47 druthb I was not. 16:46 cait I think we were not here back then slef ;) 16:46 * slef reminds druthb who he works for and what his first contributions to Koha were 16:44 druthb Fixing this bug would allow one Zebra server to operate for many small databases, rather than each instance of Koha having to run its' own instance of Zebra. That has some mighty implications for large-clustering. 16:43 * druthb thinks... 16:43 * druthb doesn't like scripts with Holy Magic in them; some clever person is *bound* to trip over the holiness eventually. 16:43 cait I am not sure I understand what you are talkig about - but I am all for solving bugs ;) 16:41 druthb oh. yeah, that name would be "holy" then, in the config, and it probably should not be, if possible. 16:41 slef I'm pretty sure rebuild_zebra.pl is ignoring that and just using biblioserver as the name. 16:41 druthb yeah.... 16:41 slef but you know you name the biblioserver at /yazgfs/config/biblioserver in koha-conf.xml? 16:40 druthb Other than using ICU chains, we don't do anything too bizarre. Pretty conventional folks. 16:40 slef it'll only matter if you're bending the zebra config into strange shapes 16:40 * druthb perks up, since she is running rebuild_zebra *right now*. 16:39 slef I think I've just found a fairly obscure bug in rebuild_zebra.pl :) 16:13 cait he is up early 16:00 slef Chris seems up and banning already this morning 16:00 slef zapped 15:59 druthb harrumph! 15:59 slef and another spam page is created on the wiki... 15:58 slef sadly, it seems that whoever installed mediawiki hasn't time either :-/ 15:58 slef but I haven't time to care for the wiki software just now, so I stood aside 15:57 slef dokuwiki, tracwiki, abusemod, ... 15:49 cait dokuwiki++ 15:48 druthb Being kind of a low-level nuts-and-bolts girl, I prefer the brainless simplicity of dokuwiki, but that's just my opinion--I'm sure other folks have their own, and they may be more valid than mine. 15:46 druthb I'm not terribly fond of mediawiki, myself; It's got a *lot* of moving parts that may or may not actually be useful ones. 15:45 slef druthb: I'd really like someone to install a useful non-barrier-to-entry anti-spam tool on the wiki, but I don't like mediawiki and don't really want to get involved. 15:41 druthb slef++ 15:13 * slef blanks a bit more spam from the wiki :-/ 12:14 cait will try later on the other laptop 12:13 slef huh? ow! an xml error in an easter egg 12:12 cait hm, xml error 12:12 slef cait: put about:mozilla into your browser 12:01 cait the book of mozilla? 12:01 cait ? 11:53 slef (from The Book of Mozilla, 11:9 (10th Edition)) 11:53 slef Mammon slept. And the beast reborn spread over the earth and its numbers grew legion. And they proclaimed the times and sacrificed crops unto the fire, with the cunning of foxes. And they built a new world in their own image as promised by the sacred words, and spoke of the beast with their children. Mammon awoke, and lo! it was naught but a follower. 11:53 cait right :) 11:52 slef cait: nothing is surprising any more 11:52 slef around? 11:52 slef rangi> 05:33:23> hmm I don't know enough php, anyone who knows php 11:47 cait doesn't sound like rangi :) 11:46 cait php? 11:46 slef cait: yeah, I guessed not, but he was asking about php. 11:45 cait almost 1am in nz - hope he is not here 11:45 cait hi slef 11:40 slef rangi: you still there? :-/ 05:29 rangi hmm I don't know enough php, anyone who knows php around? 03:40 mtj http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110204154544820 03:39 mtj $tinfold_hat = 'ON'... 02:12 mtj … or is my babelfish just playing up 02:12 mtj penis fencing is similar to cock fighting? 00:26 snail scones in the oven for lunch...