Time  Nick                  Message
23:45 huginn                chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 5.0�C (6:42 PM EST on February 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
23:45 chris_n               @wunder 28334
23:44 huginn                rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (12:00 PM NZDT on February 04, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
23:44 rangi                 @wunder wellington nz
23:24 huginn                jcamins_away: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is -0.3�C (6:26 PM EST on February 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026.3 hPa (Falling).
23:24 jcamins_away          @wunder 11375
22:58 rangi                 thank you
22:57 * chris_n             has QA fun for a bit
22:49 rangi                 presumably its in there somewhere
22:48 rangi                 yeah i cant find it
22:48 * wizzyrea            gets over it
22:48 * wizzyrea            gets annoyed
22:47 wizzyrea              I see what happened here.
22:47 wizzyrea              hrm
22:47 wizzyrea              oh I see.
22:47 rangi                 in there somewhere
22:47 rangi                 http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-ptfs.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/Bug3496
22:46 rangi                 so probably something that needs to be cherry-picked from the old harley git repo
22:46 rangi                 gotta admire the kids optimism
22:45 rangi                 I wrote a fines limit override, controlled by granular permission, for PTFS; it should be heading to the patches list fairly soon
22:45 rangi                 well he did say for ptfs
22:44 huginn                04Bug 3496: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Override maximum fine at checkout
22:44 wizzyrea              http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3496 but that's a harley thing
22:44 wizzyrea              well
22:43 wizzyrea              this was the conversation
22:42 wizzyrea              http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2009-08-28#i_292455
22:42 wizzyrea              lemme see if I can find a bug for it
22:42 wizzyrea              i'm looking at the IRC logs
22:42 wizzyrea              i'm poking too
22:42 rangi                 did it have a bug number?
22:42 rangi                 gmcharlt is at a conference
22:41 rangi                 ill look
22:41 rangi                 maybe
22:41 rangi                 then /limit override
22:41 wizzyrea              truf
22:41 rangi                 git log
22:41 wahanui1              it has been said that gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology.
22:41 wizzyrea              gmcharlt?
22:41 wizzyrea              hmm
22:41 rangi                 pass
22:41 wizzyrea              something pianohacker did
22:41 wizzyrea              it was wayyyy back in 2009
22:41 wizzyrea              rangi did the "fines limit override" ever get into koha?
22:33 rangi                 local ones dont exist in there
22:33 rangi                 its because the new preferences relies on a .pref file
22:33 chris_n               seems half-baked
22:31 rangi                 nope thats by design
22:31 chris_n               are local sysprefs handled by systempreferences.pl or is that a bug?
22:24 rangi                 it's true :)
22:16 sijobl                and chris couldn't be convinced to recompile it :-)
22:16 sijobl                for some reason they'd compiled the ircd with nick length restrictions
22:16 sijobl                on the old server
22:15 sijobl                ibeardslee: that was a debianism
22:15 * ibeardslee          doesn't complain, he now has all his 'e's
22:09 brendan__             yeah that's it ;)
22:09 rangi                 :)
22:09 brendan__             ____r_a_n_g_i_____
22:09 rangi                 i suspect its cos your nicks are in use
22:09 _____r_a_n_g_i_______ try typing that right :)
22:09 brendan__             heh - I think it's this new channel being a pain ;)
22:08 rangi                 its a bywater thing
22:08 rangi                 heh
22:03 wizzyrea              very fashionable
22:03 wizzyrea              I'm digging the underscore look
21:59 brendan__             hey thanks :)
21:57 wizzyrea              welcome to the new digs ;)
21:56 wizzyrea              ___
21:56 wizzyrea              hey brendan_
21:55 rangi                 hi brendan__
21:52 wizzyrea              on the messaging
21:52 wizzyrea              still*
21:51 wizzyrea              oh we stil have the notices and the messaging tab
21:16 oleonard              That's it for me, see y'all in 16 hours
21:13 rangi                 A comment saying works and set it to signed off again would make me spot it
21:12 oleonard              Another signoff? A comment saying "works?"
21:12 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5277 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, mason, ASSIGNED, cant search by barcode in OPAC search-page
21:12 oleonard              Okay, for a bug like Bug 5277 which has been pushed for QA, what action is being awaited?
21:11 rangi                 done
21:11 oleonard              wahanui1 is onboard I think
21:11 rangi                 right will do
21:11 oleonard              Sound good to me
21:10 wahanui1              that is, like, a risk you have to take... ;-)
21:10 rangi                 how about that?
21:10 rangi                 Pushed for QA
21:10 rangi                 right
21:10 oleonard              that's how I interpreted it before
21:09 rangi                 shall we leave patch pushed as meaning pushed to master
21:07 rangi                 no sense being confused if we dont need to be
21:07 rangi                 2 secs
21:07 rangi                 right lemme make a new status then
21:07 oleonard              I have to say I keep getting confused by the "patch pushed" status because sometimes it means pushed to a branch, sometimes pushed to master
21:06 oleonard              Yes
21:06 rangi                 that make sense?
21:06 rangi                 i have to rely on ppl naming their patches right .. and that doesnt always happen
21:05 rangi                 s
21:05 rangi                 if i delete the branche
21:05 rangi                 i can find them easy
21:05 rangi                 for example
21:05 rangi                 because they are discovered to have a bug, and we release next week
21:05 rangi                 so if i ever need to pull commits out
21:05 rangi                 they are all links
21:05 rangi                 in the shortlog
21:04 rangi                 see all the bug names
21:04 rangi                 http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=summary
21:04 rangi                 the reason i dont is so a can do this
21:04 rangi                 when they are qa, and moved into a real branch
21:04 rangi                 the only ones i delete are the needing qa ones
21:04 rangi                 i do locally, not in the main repo
21:02 oleonard              rangi: If you have merged a new/bug_* branch you delete it?
20:56 rangi                 yeah we need to have a good go at those, plus the ones needing signoff
20:55 * sekjal              runs
20:55 oleonard              Wow, 139 "patch pushed" bugs still open
20:24 wizzyrea              !
20:24 wizzyrea              woot
20:24 rangi                 yay!
20:23 hudsonbot             * Christopher Hall: Bug 5462: fixed current preferences tab highlighting bug created by dashfix
20:23 hudsonbot             * Christopher Hall: Bug 5462: more dash fixing for variable names within scripts
20:23 hudsonbot             * Christopher Hall: Bug 5462: modified intranet scripts to match templates
20:23 hudsonbot             * Christopher Hall: Bug 5462: both intranet and opac seem to be 'clean', still need to make relevant changes in scripts
20:23 hudsonbot             * Christopher Hall: Bug 5462: fixed incorrect TMPL_IF
20:23 hudsonbot             * Christopher Hall: Bug 5462: fixed dashes (replaced with _) and fullstops (removed) for variable names
20:23 hudsonbot             Project Koha_Master build #340: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/340/
20:02 ibeardslee            that's a sad state of society
19:59 wizzyrea              they stole 6 computers and all of the networking gear
19:59 wizzyrea              we had a library literally cleaned out a month or so ago
19:58 hudsonbot             Starting build 340 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)
19:58 wizzyrea              such a bummer
19:58 rangi                 http://twitter.com/#!/jransom/status/33252548018176000
19:58 wizzyrea              yea, foxton?
19:57 rangi                 that sux
19:57 rangi                 oh man
19:56 huginn                New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_5462_signoff' of git://github.com/colinsc/koha into new/enh/bug_5462 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b5aa120d71ebc7c3db7fb2177d360df03d5ed35> / Bug 5462: fixed current preferences tab highlighting bug created by dashfix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0088c5da53a56f44ec435f88a56b67ae99616a4d> / Bug 5462: more dash fixing for variable names
19:49 rangi                 ahh right
19:46 wizzyrea              :) I like that one too
19:46 * mtj                 favourite comment…. :)
19:46 rangi                 ?
19:45 mtj                   yes, but is teh free?
19:45 wizzyrea              there we go, comments updated (bad links removed)
19:40 wizzyrea              un moment
19:40 wizzyrea              oh ya I'll delete or mod that comment
19:39 jwagner               Good. Thanks.
19:39 oleonard              The HTML structure shouldn't change at all
19:39 jwagner               So the codes/divs/whatever we look for might change, but the functionality would be there.
19:38 oleonard              jquery is client side, so it doesn't have anything to do with the templating system
19:38 jwagner               Speaking of jquery, will it still work with the new templating system?
19:38 wizzyrea              backscroll
19:38 wizzyrea              oh ya that was before the wiki moved
19:38 jwagner               Ya know, I _tried_ that!
19:37 oleonard-away         jwagner: Tell 'em it's fine the way it is ;)
19:37 * jwagner             is tired of wrestling with jquery :-(
19:29 rangi                 heya cait
19:29 * cait                waves
19:26 rangi                 back
18:07 tcohen                of course. it's liz commenting :-D
18:07 rangi                 ie, dont use it :)
18:07 rangi                 its more the text is right
18:07 tcohen                right, liz's link is broken but I guess harmless
18:06 rangi                 ahh liz's comment is good, theone below it eh?
18:04 tcohen                http://koha-community.org/download-koha/
18:04 rangi                 tcohen: url for the comment?
18:00 rangi                 not sure ill make kohacon this year, so hackfests at ala and access would be good
17:56 druthb                yes!
17:56 rangi                 we should organise evening hackfests for ala too
17:55 druthb                (for here.)
17:55 druthb                conferece center a short walk from my place--and across the street from the Metro--is 109/129/149 for guest rooms.  That's not too shabby.
17:55 rangi                 cya kf
17:53 druthb                see ya, kf.
17:53 kf                    see you all later
17:53 kf                    I am the last person in this office - really time to go home
17:52 kf                    *sighs*
17:52 rangi                 yep
17:51 druthb                :)  I'll find a reasonably inexpensive hotel with a meeting room and wi-fi...really, that's about all the setup we'd need, logistically.    Local guides, I have and am, and an "un" con is free from too much schedule.
17:50 oleonard              atz and I can carpool
17:50 rangi                 and maybe the osslabs
17:50 rangi                 and atz
17:50 rangi                 druthb: be good if could get gmcharlt
17:49 druthb                oleonard: I can probably wheedle sekjal into coming down, too....find two more who'd commit, and I'll do it...someplace *cheap*.
17:48 rangi                 dc has the advantage of everywhere flies there
17:48 oleonard              druthb: I would!
17:48 rangi                 http://www.ted.com/
17:48 rangi                 gah
17:48 rangi                 or ignite evenhttp://www.ted.com/
17:48 druthb                (only the insane.)
17:48 rangi                 oh you havent heard of TED?
17:47 * druthb              wonders if anyone would come to Kohacamp in DC...
17:47 kf                    TED?
17:47 rangi                 or ignite even
17:47 wizzyrea              ok, afk
17:47 rangi                 yep
17:47 wizzyrea              a la TED
17:47 rangi                 then it could be a blueprint for running others
17:46 rangi                 and document the process
17:46 rangi                 what would be good, would be for someone to do a kohacamp
17:46 kf                    yeah, some help with organisational stuff would be good
17:45 kf                    hehe
17:45 rangi                 you need a kristina :)
17:45 rangi                 yeah
17:45 kf                    or until march, it already is
17:45 kf                    but march will be crazy
17:44 kf                    I hoped to organise a workshop this year
17:44 rangi                 are a good idea
17:44 rangi                 but i do think regional camps (unconference style)
17:44 * druthb              would *hitchhike* if necessary, to get to Konstanz.
17:43 kf                    hehe
17:43 rangi                 make everyone in europe come visit you :)
17:43 rangi                 you are kinda in the middle
17:43 kf                    per train not really, poland yes
17:43 rangi                 and poland?
17:43 rangi                 yeah, is a train feasible?
17:42 kf                    rangi: in km?
17:41 rangi                 how far is portugal?
17:41 druthb                I'd suggest one at computers in libraries, if I knew anyone was gonna be here besides me and nengard.  :P
17:40 rangi                 take turns hosting :)
17:40 rangi                 well france isnt that far, nor the uk
17:40 kf                    rangi: I am all for hackfests - but I am a bit lonely here..
17:40 druthb                hackfest_at_ALA++; hackfest_at_Access++
17:40 wizzyrea              and have kohacamps
17:40 wizzyrea              agreed, we should do things like wp does with the wordcamp
17:40 rangi                 we should do more regional ones
17:39 rangi                 hackfests dont have to wait for kohacon
17:39 kf                    I flew from zürich to nz
17:39 druthb                I'm with you on that, wizzyrea.
17:39 kf                    wizzyrea: only 1 from zürich :)
17:39 rangi                 kf: i was thinking
17:39 rangi                 hehe
17:39 rangi                 i was very greatful schuster picked me and the biblibrans up at the airport
17:39 kf                    kohacon + 1 month hackfest....
17:39 * wizzyrea            would love to take a train for 2 hours to konstantz
17:39 druthb                see ya, jcamins!
17:39 jcamins_away          Have a good afternoon, #koha
17:39 druthb                ended up sending a university van to DFW to pick up a bunch of folks.
17:39 * jcamins_away        will leave y'all to plot and plan KohaCon 2012.
17:38 indradg               rangi, hey
17:38 kf                    :)
17:38 kf                    although I would love it to have you all here
17:38 * druthb              held a conference in Abilene, TX once; that was *hard*, as air service there is rare and of low quality.
17:38 rangi                 if it wasnt so expensive
17:38 rangi                 id suggest switzerland
17:38 kf                    Stuttgart is about 2,5 hours by train
17:38 kf                    Zürich (Sitzerland) is the next airport
17:37 kf                    not sure Konstanz is good travel wise
17:37 rangi                 hi indradg
17:37 wizzyrea              I know, i mean it's exactly like that :)
17:37 rangi                 ppl not there cant complain :-)
17:36 rangi                 next meeting
17:36 rangi                 its on the agenda
17:36 wizzyrea              like forming the next release team before the current one is through :P
17:36 * druthb              thinks of locations in the US...some really nice--and inexpensive--places can be had.
17:36 rangi                 yup, it takes a while to organise
17:35 wizzyrea              agreed, we should be working 2 years out I think
17:35 * jcamins             recuses himself - no German
17:35 rangi                 i think that once kohacon11 is decided, people should reall y think about 2012
17:35 jcamins               taking_the_afternoon_off_before_I_go_crazier++
17:35 * druthb              points at jcamins.
17:35 kf                    but who is going to organise it?
17:35 kf                    yeah, you would like that
17:35 druthb                see?  Already have two supporters!
17:35 jcamins               kf++
17:35 jcamins               konstanz++
17:35 jcamins               :D
17:35 * druthb              suggests that kf put in a bid for Konstanz next year.
17:35 rangi                 kf: bah, try nz .. everyhing is far away from here :)
17:35 kf                    I still support UK, but don't really see it happening
17:34 rangi                 if there is a real worry taht every year the most populous nations will win
17:34 kf                    there are a lot of countries far away from here :P
17:34 rangi                 or something
17:34 rangi                 its quite easy to make a rule, cant be the same country within 3 years
17:34 kf                    and cheaper
17:34 kf                    I really hope it's getting nearer sometime soon
17:34 * druthb              had some potential concerns about India, but those have been dealt with.  India will be a serious pain to get to for me, but it's do-able, I think.
17:33 rangi                 its not like its gonna be india every year
17:33 rangi                 which is ummm kinda the point
17:33 rangi                 i think its an overreaction to the fact that lots of ppl in india will vote for it in india
17:32 druthb                madness.
17:32 rangi                 kf: he wants it weighted presumably so that people from some countries votes count for more than others
17:31 jcamins               I have put it on my to-do list, for some other time.
17:31 kf                    I didn't understand all of his mail - what was the part about vote by country not institution?
17:31 jcamins               You're right, incidentally. Subquery would be better.
17:30 jcamins               I agree.
17:30 kf                    it has already started and it would be confusing
17:30 kf                    and I don't think we should change it
17:30 kf                    no, it's not you
17:29 rangi                 it might be just me, but i think as mohan didnt show for the meeting, its a bit late to be asking to change the way the voting works
17:28 kf                    I normally do that, I always confuse the joins
17:28 rangi                 it might be even easier to do it as a subquery
17:28 rangi                 thats what a left join does
17:27 kf                    so one side in both tables can be null?
17:27 rangi                 or a straight join
17:27 kf                    probably need a union?
17:27 rangi                 cool, so ill say no more :)
17:27 druthb                rangi++
17:27 jcamins               Yes.
17:27 kf                    ah
17:27 rangi                 you understand the difference with joins?
17:26 jcamins               Ohhh.
17:26 rangi                 you dont want that
17:26 rangi                 left join
17:26 jcamins               My VM made a lovely keening noise when I tried, though. ;)
17:26 jcamins               rangi: I noticed. :(
17:26 rangi                 oh yeah, that query wont work jcamins
17:26 jcamins               (from a particular time period)
17:25 jcamins               kf: I'm able to get the sum of fines outstanding, the difficulty is going to be getting the sum of payments PLUS the sum of additional fines.
17:23 kf                    I have a report fines per borrower somewhere.... would that help something?
17:22 jcamins               *accountlines
17:21 jcamins               When I take out accoutlines it works.
17:21 jcamins               Huh.
17:20 pastebot0             "jcamins" at 208.120.0.116 pasted "Troublesome query" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/137
17:19 rangi                 you just did a select sum() eh?
17:18 rangi                 heh
17:18 druthb                for a suitably-large value of fifteen, yes.
17:18 wizzyrea              !
17:18 jcamins               Apparently 10+10+10+10+10+15 == 1430.
17:16 druthb                Working for an ILS vendor would be a lot more fun, except for these darn squirrely customers.  ;-)
17:16 druthb                he's having a rough day.
17:15 wizzyrea              O.O
17:15 jcamins               This was only my third today. :)
17:15 jcamins               wizzyrea: yeah, but don't worry.
17:14 wizzyrea              uhoh did we just witness jcamins having a meltdown?
17:14 jcamins               AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why won't it work?
17:14 jcamins               statistics.value is a double.
17:14 jcamins               Wait.
17:13 jcamins               rangi: any idea how to get a sum of payments from the statistics table?
16:55 huginn                druthb: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 45 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 44.
16:55 druthb                @karma jcamins
16:49 druthb                jcamins++
16:29 rangi                 :)
16:29 rangi                 yup, thats what i mean, we should at least attempt to catch that
16:28 fcapo                 Just hoping none of my users will set an incorrect leader manually when creating new records :P
16:28 rangi                 might be worth looking at what that contains
16:28 rangi                 my @warnings = $record->warnings();
16:27 fcapo                 anyways, thanks for the feedbacks, as a temporary fix, I'll modify my importation scripts so 45 gets forced in leader positions 20 and 21 :P
16:26 rangi                 so i think we have to fix koha, to not save an invalid leader (for this case at least)
16:26 fcapo                 true
16:25 rangi                 converting from one to the other, should not change the values
16:25 rangi                 it should be roundtrippable and remain the same
16:24 rangi                 marcxml is a representation of the usmarc in xml
16:24 fcapo                 Well, marcxml doesn't really need these leader informations anyways. The problem just happens when we return those records as usmarc without changing the leader.
16:18 rangi                 *nod*
16:18 jcamins               rangi: I know. I was using that to point out that Koha will happily save invalid MARCXML.
16:18 rangi                 most likely letting people save invalid leaders :)
16:18 rangi                 but it will be somethign we (koha) are doing
16:18 rangi                 jcamins: naw, its the leader in the marcxml is wrong
16:17 jcamins               (and still don't... just as soon as I figure out how to write tests for that sort of thing I will)
16:17 jcamins               We haven't had the most strenuous of checks in the past.
16:17 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5683 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, NEW, link_bibs_to_authorities.pl can corrupt records
16:17 jcamins               fcapo: this isn't the problem you were running into, but see bug 5683
16:16 rangi                 fcapo: the system that should be generating them is koha, zebra is an indexing engine, it shouldnt change values, just index them and return them
16:10 rangi                 we should fix our marcxml
16:10 rangi                 thats the problem
16:10 rangi                 if you send it an invalid record to index
16:10 rangi                 zebra should not change what you tell it to index
16:10 rangi                 i dont think its a bug in those
16:03 fcapo                 I still don't know if it was the ZOOM library or Zebra itself that made the conversion to usmarc. It might be a bug in one of those.
15:54 fcapo                 Still, I find it strange that when the search results are converted from marcxml to usmarc, these leader values weren't automatically set to 45 since they are supposed to be system-generated...
15:54 fcapo                 So when I index using rebuild_zebra.pl -x, the marcxml column with the incorrect leader values is sent to zebra, but when the search results are send back to koha, they are converted to usmarc. With the leader now incorrect, invalid marc records are returned.
15:53 fcapo                 I'll just copy what I tried to say on the old IRC, it will be easier :
15:53 jcamins               Interesting.
15:53 jcamins               Oh, I see.
15:52 fcapo                 but the marcxml columns is kept as is
15:51 fcapo                 because the usmarc record in the marc column of biblioitems seems to always have these leader values set to 45
15:50 fcapo                 yes
15:50 jcamins               fcapo: but the records showed up correctly when you indexed without -x?
15:49 fcapo                 It should always be 45. any other value seems to make the item not appear correctly in search results when zebra is indexed using marcxml or when using zebraqueue
15:48 fcapo                 See http://www.itsmarc.com/crs/Bib1486.htm
15:48 fcapo                 Some of my biblios had 00 at position 20 and 21 of their leader, which made zebra return invalid usmarc records
15:47 fcapo                 Anyways, to repeat what I trid to say on the old IRC: I think I found what caused my "Some search results appear as 'No title' when Zebra is rebuilt with marcxml" problem I had.
15:45 * oleonard            didn't even know it was back up
15:44 wizzyrea              :) yep
15:44 fcapo                 So that's why nobody was responding when I was talking on that other IRC :P
15:44 briceSanc             ok, i understand
15:44 wizzyrea              so we had no "hands on the ground" when it went down
15:43 wizzyrea              the contact we had at the company that was hosting the IRC doesn't work there anymore
15:43 briceSanc             what's wrong with the old irc ?
15:43 briceSanc             cool, so : hello all !
15:43 wizzyrea              yep :)
15:42 briceSanc             is it the new irc ?
15:27 jwagner               kf, if you have a patron record with overdue fines, I'd like it if you could doublecheck the problem.  The code doesn't look to have changed, but my test server setup isn't always reliable on the patron data.
15:20 kf                    didn't see the discussion aroudn that before
15:20 kf                    ah ok, reading back now
15:19 jwagner               kf, sorry, didn't clean up that bit.  I was looking at fines.pl on current head this morning.
15:18 oleonard              It must have come to me first
15:18 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5688 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, OPAC My Summary tab fines column doesn't display accruing fines
15:18 kf                    jwagner: fines2.pl does not exist in current Koha - sould be fines.pl (reading your bug 5688)
15:14 jcamins               I don't see anything.
15:14 jcamins               I remember your message, but was there a further response?
15:14 oleonard              On the Koha list
15:14 jcamins               oleonard: ?
15:13 oleonard              So much for my advice not to install Koha 2.2.9 on Windows...
15:03 * wizzyrea            had a kudos question for him
15:03 wizzyrea              well I can let him do that I guess :)
15:03 wizzyrea              oooh cool
15:02 * jcamins             comforts wizzyrea... I think sekjal is out demoing Koha today.
14:59 * wizzyrea            cries a little
14:59 wizzyrea              !! no sekjal!
14:57 jcamins               I never thought I'd say this, but... maybe SOLR is a good idea.
14:56 wizzyrea              hm no brooke.
14:52 tcohen                ahh, zebraqueue stuff
14:51 jcamins               But rebuild_zebra only reports indexing 1000 records from the zebraqueue.
14:51 jcamins               I'm working with a catalog of 160k.
14:51 jcamins               tcohen: I know.
14:48 tcohen                jcamins: we have more than 60K in one library here
14:42 jcamins               That doesn't seem quite right, somewhow.
14:41 jcamins               Does rebuild_zebra not work if you have more than 1000 records to index?
14:38 jcamins               1301Undefined subroutine &MARC::Record::carp called at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/Record.pm line 565.
14:32 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3319 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Need a nicer error message when attempting to add a patron with no libraries defined
14:32 oleonard              Yay, one of my oldest outstanding patches was pushed. Bug 3319
14:31 jcamins               Never mind. I got it.
14:26 jcamins               Anyone know how to use IN to get all the numbers in a certain range in MySQL?
14:19 jcamins               Well, I'll wait and see what happens.
14:19 tcohen                (if you're using file per table on mysql, of course)
14:18 tcohen                perhaps you can copy the valid registers to a new table, truncate and copy back
14:18 tcohen                mm
14:18 jcamins               tcohen: my goal is to do exactly that, but I think that particular command is very slow.
14:16 tcohen                jcamins: it depends :-D
14:16 jcamins               Yes, it is.
14:13 jcamins               DELETE FROM biblio WHERE biblionumber<118000 is a bad idea, isn't it?
13:59 tcohen                liblime fue comprada por una empresa que se llama PTFS
13:59 tcohen                si
13:59 cirbic                tcohen: español?
13:59 jcamins               No.
13:59 cirbic                is that right?
13:59 cirbic                that literally says: "Liblime leads the Koha community"
13:58 tcohen                cirbic: hola
13:58 cirbic                and there´s an official document
13:57 cirbic                I live in spain
13:56 jcamins               koha.org is not.
13:56 jcamins               koha-community.org is the website for the Koha that we all know and love.
13:56 cirbic                which is the difference between www.koha-community.org and koha.org?
13:55 cirbic                one question
13:55 cirbic                hello everyone
13:52 tcohen                pfff, wide character... error....
13:43 chris_n               bbl
13:42 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5688 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, OPAC My Summary tab fines column doesn't display accruing fines
13:42 jwagner               This is a slightly different problem, though.  I know (now) what the different accounttypes are, just not why the OPAC won't display them.  See new Bug 5688
13:41 jwagner               That jwagner is an inquisitive type...
13:41 chris_n               brain's not awake yet
13:41 chris_n               opp
13:41 chris_n               last year
13:41 chris_n               here's jwagner at a similar point with accouttypes: http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2009-10-08#i_317863
13:40 chris_n               heh...
13:39 jwagner               They're definitely hardcoded in the current scripts.  I'm not sure of the implications of changing the scripts, though.
13:38 hudsonbot             * Chris Cormack: Fixing a syntax error, that snuck in with a merge
13:38 hudsonbot             * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3319 - Need error message when adding patron and libraries are defined
13:38 hudsonbot             * Fr?d?ric Demians: Bug 3212 Force leader 9 position to 'a' for new biblios
13:38 hudsonbot             * Colin Campbell: Bug 5673: test guarantorid consistently
13:38 hudsonbot             * Ian Walls: Bug 2341: items marked 'on order' not reserveable from search results
13:38 hudsonbot             * Chris Cormack: Bug: 4263 - Repeatable subfields in items
13:38 hudsonbot             * Chris Cormack: Bug 4931: Stocking can be by homebranch or holding branch
13:38 hudsonbot             Project Koha_3.2.x build #96: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/96/
13:37 chris_n               here's a bit of conversation which suggests they are hardcoded: http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2009-07-10#i_272959
13:36 chris_n               seems it is a bit of lore as to what they all mean
13:36 chris_n               here's a bit of discussion about what they account types mean: http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2006-12-03#i_141743
13:34 jwagner               I'll go ahead & create a bugzilla entry.
13:34 jwagner               not having much luck there, either....  Not my day for good search results.
13:31 chris_n               you might search the irc log for discussion on it
13:31 jwagner               I couldn't find a bugzilla entry, but bugzilla and I don't seem to get along -- my searching skills don't match its entries :-(
13:30 chris_n               it definitely needs a bug if it does not have one
13:30 jwagner               I just looked at the code on current head, and it's reading the same way the 2008 message says.  A test record with overdues accrued in fines.pl doesn't show that amount on the OPAC screen.
13:29 chris_n               a rather complicated mess to sort out iirc
13:29 chris_n               I very vaguely remember some discussion about account types and hardcoding a very long time ago
13:26 jwagner               Fines aren't displaying in the fines column of the OPAC My Summary page -- they do show on the My Fines tab
13:25 jwagner               The problem reported there still seems to be in place, but I can't find a bugzilla entry.  Does anyone recognize this one?
13:24 jwagner               One of my users found this message from 2008: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2008-March/013387.html
13:17 * druthb              puts a big strip of "hooks" on her chair, and a matching piece of "loops" on her fanny.
13:15 * jwagner             hands the velcro back to druthb
13:13 oleonard              Hi all
13:13 * druthb              waves to oleonard.
13:13 hudsonbot             Starting build 96 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:10 * druthb              goes "harrrumph!"
13:09 jwagner               Trying to figure out how to automate the identify nonsense, sigh.  Got it working in Chatzilla but can't figure out how to do it in mIRC
13:09 huginn                New commit(s) kohagit32: Fixing a syntax error, that snuck in with a merge <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9facc2612104d989e77de932f2a60bc9f3352c5c> / Fix for Bug 3319 - Need error message when adding patron and libraries are defined <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f9eec6920dc096f82f56b69046866a5ad45243b> / Bug 3212 Force leader 9 position to 'a' for new biblios <http://git.koha-c
13:08 * druthb              gets out the Velcro for jwagner.
12:36 druthb                They give the appearance of being fairly-commited to not liking vendors and developers much, yes.  I don't know if that's their intention, to appear that way, but it certainly doesn't encourage *me* to want to go.
12:34 * chris_n             is disappointed to see that KUDOS is looking for proposals from users rather than vendors and/or developers
12:32 huginn                druthb: Quote #66: "<paul_p> shame on koha, mySQL & user !" (added by jwagner at 03:39 PM, March 04, 2010)
12:32 druthb                @quote random
12:31 huginn                gmcharlt: Quote #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 04:20 PM, December 22, 2009)
12:31 gmcharlt              @quote random
12:01 cirbic                nobody can help me?¿
11:20 cirbic                I found something in Wikipedia, but I´d like to put something more
11:20 cirbic                until now
11:20 cirbic                from 1999 when Katipo made the first installation
11:18 cirbic                wherer could I find something like that?
11:18 cirbic                and I´d like to write something about the development history of KOHA
11:18 cirbic                I´m writing the migrating project of our library
11:14 hdl                   hi cirbic
11:12 cirbic                greetings from almeria, spain
11:12 cirbic                hello everybody
11:04 kmkale                Anyway. Gotta run. Another meeting coming up.
11:03 kmkale                IMHO computers are necessary in this day and age period.
11:02 thd                   kmkale: Computers are necessary for making libraries part of the rest of the computerised culture.
11:02 kmkale                thd: 100 yrs plus old libraries running on cardex. Dont know how many books and patrons they have. Forget about finding non popoualr books fast
11:01 thd                   kmkale: Computers are not essential for basic library services.  However, young people the world over ignore anything which is not accessible via computer.
11:00 kmkale                But yes this could be a good thing  to take up. Funding for public libraries.
10:59 thd                   kmkale: I have met many students from India an Packistan who were amongst my best customers in my former bookshop.  Yet, I may never have met a librarian from India.
10:59 kmkale                they are only interested in maintening their fiefdom
10:58 kmkale                Typicall the public libraries are managed by trusts run by really old people who think computers are not needed to run a library.
10:57 kmkale                how many librarians from India have you come across? And how many of these were from public libraries?
10:57 thd                   kmkale: You might be able to obtain some business from awakening the blind.
10:57 kmkale                our public libraries need to interact with librarians from abrod. They are totally blind as to the possibilities
10:57 thd                   kmkale: Often the problem is merely knowing whom to ask.  There may be other foundations interested in supporting libraries internationally with recycled computers without insisting on proprietary software as part of the gift.
10:55 thd                   kmkale: The Gates foundation has bought computers for many US libraries even if they come with MS Windows that is better than no computers.
10:54 kmkale                thd: true. that will make the M$ tax useful
10:54 thd                   kmkale: Indian libraries should apply for assistance from the Gates foundation.
10:53 kmkale                :) we have lots of wealthy people. problem is they are not benefactors
10:53 thd                   kmkale: You need wealthier benefactors.
10:53 kmkale                but the money is totally inadequate
10:52 kmkale                thd: here too
10:52 kmkale                s/noghtmare/nightmare/
10:52 thd                   kmkale: Even in the US, public libraries often rely upon donations from wealthy benefactors to provide computers, buildings, etc.
10:51 kmkale                so when we take Koha to them, the catalog is a noghtmare for them ;)
10:51 kmkale                no large public libraries can afford to employ properly qualified librarian staff
10:50 thd                   kmkale: I have seen such a catalogue at a US library once in rural Maine.
10:50 kmkale                when I do conversions for Granthalaya.org project, I find the catalog consists of 8 to 10 columns in a register or excel or foxpro or access
10:49 kmkale                these software have no concept of standard cataloging.
10:48 kmkale                whereever the libraries have done computerization at all, its based on some home grown software ( most probabely foxpro based or ms access at most)
10:47 kmkale                large public libraries are so under funded that there is hardly any computerization
10:46 kmkale                there are not many large public libraries. Commuting to them is a problem, so people prefer the smaller ones close to home
10:45 kmkale                thd: even the large, funded public libraries like mgst.in are fee based
10:45 thd                   kmkale: Are other public library provisions too insufficient to meet public demand for books?
10:44 kmkale                thd: yes. there are small fee based lending library in almost every major housing cluster
10:43 thd                   kmkale: Home based meaning people with about a thousand books at home setting up a fee based lending library.
10:43 kmkale                thd: but if you mean I can take a book home, then yes
10:42 kmkale                thd: home based lending meaning books delivered to home? then no
10:42 kmkale                thd: the other person I spoke has some very interesting ideas beyond this, but I cant discuss them right now till he launches it
10:42 thd                   kmkale: Are home based lending libraries common?
10:41 kmkale                thd: that is why this project was very interesting to me
10:41 kmkale                thd: currently there are no libraries offering delivery services in my area ( at least that I know of)
10:41 thd                   kmkale: The delivery service attracted my attention.  Are delivery services customarily provided by libraries in your area?
10:40 kmkale                yay!! my net connection :(
10:36 thd                   kmkale: The delivery service attracted my attention.  Are delivery services customarily provided by libraries in your area?
10:35 thd                   kmkale: Most library services in the part of the world with which I am familiar are financed by some institution or governmental body.  User fees are reserved for special services such as photocopies but never ordinary lending.
10:32 thd                   kmkale: Subscription libraries are rare in the part of the world with which I am familiar.
10:31 thd                   kmkale: Well I suppose that is one more reason to see South Asia and discover such differences.
10:30 kmkale                thd: every circulating library here charges a monthly fee
10:30 thd                   kmkale: There is also a delivery service which libraries do not generally do.
10:29 thd                   kmkale: The idea that there is a fee involved seems very much like the books business to me.
10:28 thd                   kmkale: Well yes but there is a rental fee.
10:28 kmkale                thd: books business? Its a home lending library
10:27 thd                   kmkale: no but I like the idea of Koha being put to use in the books business.
10:27 kmkale                thd: do you know this person?
10:26 kmkale                thd: no clue. I have advised him to be a subscriber to Koha mailing lists many times. So far he hasn't
10:25 kmkale                cant tell without a photo. Will ask him
10:25 thd                   kmkale: Will Abhay Kambli be at KohaCon wherever it may be held at least if it is somewhere in South Asia?
10:24 thd                   kmkale: http://www.spoke.com/info/p8dzjrk/AbhayKambli
10:24 thd                   kmkale: Maybe the name is common but I found someone of that name with an office in New York.
10:23 kmkale                thd: not that I know of. Why?
10:22 thd                   kmkale: Does Abhay Kambli have an office in the US?
10:19 hudsonbot             Chris Cormack: Fixing a syntax error, that snuck in with a merge
10:19 hudsonbot             Project Koha_Master build #339: FIXED in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/339/
10:19 hudsonbot             Yippie, build fixed!
10:16 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5670 enhancement, P5, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, Housebound Readers Module
10:16 kmkale                bug 5670 is very interesting
10:16 kmkale                thd: re personal book delivery services I am working with two independent entrepreneurs from different cities. Both planning to set this up with Koha
10:16 kmkale                thd: Sorry, that call led to a full fledged conference call meeting.
10:00 huginn                New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing a syntax error, that snuck in with a merge <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e29aca325d199468673365ee7540760b38630833>
09:53 hudsonbot             Starting build 339 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #337 40 min ago)
09:43 hudsonbot             * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3319 - Need error message when adding patron and libraries are defined
09:43 hudsonbot             * Fr?d?ric Demians: Bug 3212 Force leader 9 position to 'a' for new biblios
09:43 hudsonbot             * Colin Campbell: Bug 5673: test guarantorid consistently
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09:40 thd                   kmkale: are you still on telephone?
09:39 hudsonbot             Ian Walls: Bug 2341: items marked 'on order' not reserveable from search results
09:39 hudsonbot             Project Koha_Master build #337: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/337/
09:26 huginn                New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 3319 - Need error message when adding patron and libraries are defined <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6a3029470501b3a8269986c1448d5f8b2d6b7f2> / Bug 3212 Force leader 9 position to 'a' for new biblios <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1f36a0c940fa53a5671b379a31d77c2cbe40a7f> / Bug 5673: test guarantorid consistently <http://git.koha-community.org
09:13 kmkale                1 min on call again :(
09:13 hudsonbot             Starting build 337 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:12 thd                   kmkale: Is there much interest in personal delivery services in India?
09:12 kmkale                helping him with Koha
09:12 kmkale                :) its a young enterprenure's dream project
09:11 thd                   kmkale: The flash advertisement for the book delivery service seemed very interesting.
09:11 thd                   kmkale: Your welcome
09:11 kmkale                ouch. Will ask the web admin to change it asap. Thanks thd
09:10 kmkale                what the hell
09:10 thd                   kmkale: It is linked from http://www.orientalthane.com/
09:09 kmkale                where did you get it?
09:09 kmkale                aye thats a WIP
09:08 thd                   http://59.165.133.196/
09:08 kmkale                1 min on call
09:07 thd                   s/my webrowser/Iceweasel/
09:07 kmkale                which site thd?
09:07 thd                   kmkale: one thing I noticed is that your category links bring up a blank Open Office spreadsheet in my webroser.
09:06 huginn                New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2341: items marked 'on order' not reserveable from search results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f692123bf1b2b843d348a897852018caa04de76f>
09:06 kmkale                got it. please ask your question..
09:05 thd                   kmkale: not what the bot said.
09:04 wahanui1              thd is concerned that CCL, Pazpar2, and Zebra support should not be an either that or Solr/Lucene option.  We need CCL and Pazpar2 for metasearch and we currently need Zebra for a Z39.50/SRU server.
09:04 kmkale                yes thd ?
09:02 thd                   kmkale: I have a question about what I saw in your Koha installations.
08:13 paul_p                for the opacprivacy video
08:13 paul_p                nengard++
08:13 Oak                   \o
08:13 paul_p                hello kf & al
08:11 hdl                   hi all
08:10 kf                    hi paul_p and hdl
07:26 kf                    good mornig #koha
07:00 francharb             hello all
06:52 thd                   fredericd: New York would be nice but accommodation is maximally expensive for anyone who does not have a small place with some rent control.
06:51 thd                   I am very interested in seeing places where library metadata  standards and practises are most different from what is familiar to me.
06:50 fredericd             New York would be nice also
06:49 thd                   fredericd: No, eventually every significant place will have a chance to host KohaCon in different years.
06:48 fredericd             I'd prefer to go to Nepal...
06:48 fredericd             thd: at the same time?
06:48 thd                   However, as I told nengard yesterday, eventually there will be a KohaCon everywhere.
06:47 thd                   fredericd: I may favour Kolkata with the National Library.
06:43 fredericd             thd: glad to meet you here and soon in Thane...
06:41 kmkale                fredericd: yes
06:41 thd                   Hello fredericd
06:41 fredericd             is there accomaodation near the campus?
06:41 kmkale                thd: ok
06:41 fredericd             hi all
06:41 fredericd             interesting...
06:41 thd                   kmkale: Please try to alter the wiki page listing to include a lower range of prices or some may decide against Thane falsely.
06:39 kmkale                Also there is just a administrative boundry between Thane and Mumbai. Its a continuous cityscape so hotel choice is really wide.
06:38 kmkale                thd: there are similar hotels in Thane. Closer to the campus than these. Will try to get accommodation organized as per requirements / budgets if we decide on Thane
06:35 thd                   kmkale: http://www.hostels.com/findabed.php?ChosenCity=Mumbai&ChosenCountry=India&Search=1
06:33 kmkale                thd: do share the links you found
06:30 thd                   I found some of those a few hours ago.
06:30 kmkale                & even cheaper Non air conditioned ones. But I wont have you try those ;)
06:29 kmkale                thats approx 20USD
06:29 kmkale                thd: there are lots of small inns. good clean rooms with air conditioning about 1000/- INR
06:29 thd                   ?
06:28 thd                   kmkale: Where do local people without much money stay/
06:28 thd                   kmkale: I thought that India and Nepal would have the very lowest prices to offset for the higher air fare from the US.
06:27 kmkale                thd: the exchange rates work in your favour when you visit us
06:27 kmkale                :)
06:27 thd                   kmkale: A few hours ago I found some prices for Mumbai lower than anywhere except Somerset.
06:27 kmkale                Also if you fancy, all the major international 5 / 7 stars in Mumbai are within 15km distance from the college campus
06:26 kmkale                but if we do decide on Thane, I intend to visit the better and good ones and set up a booking system
06:25 kmkale                Cant find website links
06:25 kmkale                There are too many.
06:24 thd                   kmkale: What about the 'not good' but cheap accommodations in Thane?
06:21 cait                  hi kmkale
06:21 * kmkale              waves at cait
06:07 cait                  hi all
04:07 Brooke_               <.<
04:07 Brooke_               >.>
04:07 hudsonbot             Chris Cormack: Bug: 4263 - Repeatable subfields in items
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04:06 kmkale                wow Brooke_ how did ya know that?
04:06 Brooke_               namaste
04:06 kmkale                Namaskar #koha
04:05 kmkale                hey Brooke_
04:05 Brooke_               ahoy there kmkale
03:49 Brooke_               if only I knew the mind behind the move!
03:49 Brooke_               tee hee
03:46 rangi                 http://www.maconch.com/features/x1779421749/Macon-Public-LIbrary-has-new-software-system
03:43 hudsonbot             Starting build 336 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:40 Brooke_               okay, fine, it's twitter.
03:39 Brooke_               it's natural.
03:39 Brooke_               soon you'll find a black glove on your hand
03:39 Brooke_               it's part of being a Duhrector
03:38 jransom               I can feel my life force being sucked out of me ..... find myself using clipped 1 syllable words now
03:31 * Brooke_             salutes Rangi
03:31 huginn                New commit(s) kohagit: Bug: 4263 - Repeatable subfields in items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa398ed055a7226ba02d6559b297cb172b3ce3df>
03:31 rangi                 hi Brooke_
03:28 mtj                   jransom: yep, its part of their design spec ;)
03:27 jransom               i HATE them
03:27 jransom               just told microsoft phone operator that his companies phone maze sucks the life force of me
03:27 Brooke_               http://xkcd.com/850/
03:21 Brooke_               your initials sound like a freeway in California.
03:21 * Brooke_             smiles at the mtj
03:21 mtj                   heya Brooke_
03:18 Brooke_               kia ora
02:59 huginn                rangi: The operation succeeded.
02:59 rangi                 @later tell chris_n thanks for the fix and signoff
02:10 mtj                   i think zebra may have p0wnd my brain this arvo
01:59 druthb                evenin, #koha.
01:51 thd                   s/staff/staff\/significant patrons/
01:51 thd                   gmcharlt: I personally like people with explicitly known affiliations but I understand that people at small libraries do not want to be outvoted by the larger staff of large libraries.
01:50 gmcharlt              thd: not surprising; it's I think one of the inherent dichotomies in library OSS projects
01:49 thd                   gmcharlt: That issue came up again momentarily at the #koha meeting today.
01:49 gmcharlt              a more instituion-based model was advocated by some on the EG gov committee
01:48 gmcharlt              the SFC treats projects as collections of individuals
01:48 gmcharlt              thd: that's still a bit unsettled
01:48 thd                   ?
01:48 thd                   gmcharlt: Would institutions be members and also significant contributors who are members of the institution separately/
01:45 thd                   gmcharlt: I am most interested in how the people vs. institution issue works out for membership, http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=governance:structure:draft_rules .
01:43 thd                   I have been looking at the list in the past few minutes but was not certain which thread is most relevant to the current discussion.
01:42 gmcharlt              thd: the app has been approved by the SFC and invitation has been extended; project is in discussions about it; see archives at http://list.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/evergreen-governance-l/ if you're curious
01:42 mtj                   i need to track down where thats defined :/
01:42 mtj                   so ?somehow? the zebra config has allowed 'ext' searching on title, but not ccode?
01:41 mtj                   .
01:41 mtj                   [114] Unsupported Use attribute -- v2 addinfo '8009'
01:41 mtj                   Diagnostic message(s) from database:
01:41 thd                   gmcharlt: when is the next SFC board meeting at which Evergreen might be accepted?
01:41 mtj                   records returned: 0
01:41 mtj                   Result Set Status: none
01:40 mtj                   Number of hits: 0, setno 13
01:40 mtj                   Search was a bloomin' failure.
01:40 mtj                   Received SearchResponse.
01:40 mtj                   Sent searchRequest.
01:40 mtj                   Z>  f @attr 1=8009 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 Listening
01:40 mtj                   but using an 'ext' search on ccode (8009), gives an error...
01:39 mtj                   1=4 is title , btw...
01:39 mtj                   Z>  f @attr 1=4 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 Listening
01:39 mtj                   weirder still, i can search OK using 'ext' on a title, in zebra
01:31 chris_n               enjoyed a bitof sight seeing at niagara while I was there
01:31 * chris_n             was in toronto last year this time
01:30 thd                   Oh yes, I have not been reading most any mailing lists.
01:29 gmcharlt              software freedom conservancy
01:29 thd                   SFC?
01:28 gmcharlt              thd: it's on the back burner; fair amount going on with Evergreen's application to join the SFC
01:27 thd                   gmcharlt: Have you had favourable interactions with people from GPLS over OpenNCIP?
01:26 hudsonbot             Chris Cormack: Bug 4931: Stocking can be by homebranch or holding branch
01:26 hudsonbot             Project Koha_Master build #335: SUCCESS in 28 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/335/
01:26 huginn                gmcharlt: The current temperature in Toronto, Ontario is -8.0�C (8:24 PM EST on February 02, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
01:26 gmcharlt              @wunder toronto, ontario
01:26 huginn                gmcharlt: Error: No such location could be found.
01:26 gmcharlt              @wunder toronto, on
01:26 huginn                gmcharlt: Error: No such location could be found.
01:26 gmcharlt              @wunder toronto
01:25 icicle                I don't melt, for one
01:25 thd                   gmcharlt: How does it compare to Florida this time of year?
01:23 gmcharlt              Toronto
01:23 thd                   gmcharlt: what part?
01:23 gmcharlt              thd: yep
01:23 thd                   gmcharlt: Are you in Canada now?
01:19 chris_n               ahh... I had a bip-kicking session earlier am
01:19 gmcharlt              chris_n: just kicking bip
01:17 chris_n               gmcharlt: identity crisis?
01:17 chris_n               heya brendan_
00:58 hudsonbot             Starting build 335 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:57 mtj                   i might ask you to look on a BL koha , with your fix running sometime
00:56 mtj                   right, ok
00:56 hdl                   since zebra is not forgiving
00:55 hdl                   problem is to find the correct combination
00:55 hdl                   mtj: should be either 6=2 or 6=3 with 4=1
00:55 rangi                 meeting bbiab
00:54 huginn                New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4931: Stocking can be by homebranch or holding branch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35b47b6ff71ea2bcfc699ec35132756d01bfadd3>
00:54 hdl                   mtj: sorry
00:54 mtj                   hdl: ok cheers, i think ive got enuff info to start debugging my koha
00:54 thd                   indradg: are you here and awake?
00:47 mtj                   so my 'ext' mapping isnt correct, i guess
00:47 mtj                   Elapsed: 0.000354
00:47 mtj                   [114] Unsupported Use attribute -- v2 addinfo '8009'
00:47 mtj                   Diagnostic message(s) from database:
00:46 mtj                   records returned: 0
00:46 mtj                   Result Set Status: none
00:46 mtj                   Number of hits: 0, setno 14
00:46 mtj                   Search was a bloomin' failure.
00:46 mtj                   Received SearchResponse.
00:46 mtj                   Sent searchRequest.
00:45 mtj                   Z>  f @attr 1=8009 @attr 6=2 MATAKI
00:45 mtj                   .
00:45 mtj                   Z>  f @attr 1=8009 @attr 6=1 MATAKI  , is successfull
00:45 mtj                   6=1 works ok, but 6=2 and 6=3 dont, for me..
00:44 mtj                   interesting...
00:38 mtj                   looks more...
00:37 mtj                   it errors on 6=3 and 6=2 too
00:35 mtj                   Prefix query error: extra token (code 1)
00:35 mtj                   ^
00:35 mtj                   Z> f 1=8009 @attr 6=3 MATAHI
00:35 rangi                 i see gmcharlt made it to canada
00:32 hdl                   then search
00:32 hdl                   base biblios
00:32 hdl                   you needn't get authenticated
00:32 mtj                   hdl: sorry, remembering how to auth to zebra , using yazclient... :/
00:31 * chris_n             greets gmcharlt
00:27 hdl                   it is :p
00:27 mtj                   ok, attr 4=1 was the phr type search, i think?
00:26 hdl                   without attr 4
00:25 hdl                   try without f @attr 1=8009 @attr 6=3 MATAHI
00:24 mtj                   yep
00:24 hdl                   do you have a yaz-client ?
00:24 hdl                   you neednt
00:24 mtj                   i havent reindexed yet tho
00:23 mtj                   13:25:08-03/02 zebrasrv(1) [request] Search biblios ERROR 114 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=8009 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=2 MATAHI
00:23 hdl                   can you get the error code ?
00:23 mtj                   ive done that , the query is different now, but still an error
00:16 wahanui               hdl: that doesn't look right
00:16 hdl                   change 6=3 to 6=2 in ccl.properties just for a test
00:15 mtj                   ./pqf.properties:position.firstAndLast       = 3=3 6=3
00:14 mtj                   ./ccl.properties:ext 4=1 6=3
00:14 mtj                   ./ccl.properties:complete-field 6=3
00:14 mtj                   ./ccl.properties:startswithnt 3=1 5=101 6=3
00:14 mtj                   mason@xen1:~/koha/k3/etc/zebradb$ grep -ir '6=3' ./*
00:14 mtj                   .
00:13 mtj                   no mention of '@attr 6=3'
00:13 mtj                   # Used if completeness is 'complete {sub}field' (@attr 6=2, @attr 6=1)
00:13 mtj                   # Phrase index
00:12 mtj                   but default.idx says...
00:12 mtj                   13:11:24-03/02 zebrasrv(1) [request] Search biblios ERROR 114 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=8009 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 MATAHI
00:12 mtj                   hmm, my search with ext is ..
00:11 mtj                   completeness 1
00:10 mtj                   index p
00:10 mtj                   yep
00:09 mtj                   shall i remove the ccode:w , perhaps?
00:09 hdl                   grab your default.idx and see whether completeness 1 for p index
00:09 mtj                   melm 952$8      ccode:w,ccode: p
00:09 mtj                   melm 952$8      ccode:w,ccode:p
00:08 mtj                   yes, and yes
00:08 hdl                   AND reindexed ?
00:08 hdl                   ?
00:08 hdl                   do you have edited your record.abs to add ccode:p
00:07 mtj                   but  (mc-CCODE,ext:MATAHI) gives a zebrasrv error
00:07 hdl                   mtj: still awake
00:07 mtj                   (mc-CCODE,phr:MATAHI) returns some results..
00:07 mtj                   hdl: about still?