Time Nick Message 23:24 Brooke_ almost chow time 23:20 jcamins_irssi Theory: what if you created a record using a framework that allowed you to put data into 655$9, and you didn't put anything in any other subfield of 655, then you changed the framework? 23:18 * Brooke_ vastly prefers Polynesia. 23:18 Brooke_ go live next door to Magnus then ;) 23:17 wizzyrea_ Brooke_: I love snow :) 23:15 jcamins_irssi Sensibly. 23:15 jcamins_irssi bulkmarcimport.pl won't import it. 23:15 jcamins_irssi Anyone have any thoughts on how a record which included a field with no subfields could get into Koha? 23:04 Brooke_ not like those big threatening fluffy things that get all blown out in like 5 minutes 23:04 wizzyrea_ there's a 3 foot drift by my front door 23:03 Brooke_ they have beady little eyes and accumulate 23:03 Brooke_ not small ones 23:03 Brooke_ uh oh 23:03 wizzyrea_ good point 23:03 rangi do time lapse stuff 23:03 wizzyrea_ I just took a video, but the snow flakes are so small that they don't really show 23:02 rangi you better be taking photos 23:02 wizzyrea_ lordie this snow is outrageous 23:00 Brooke_ if they weren't so camera happy, I'd have played with the poi 23:00 Brooke_ I realise that :) 23:00 rangi it is the wrong one actually :) 23:00 wizzyrea_ rofl 23:00 Brooke_ does anyone have a picture of Paul doing the *wrong* haka? 22:59 Brooke_ I will be more specific 22:59 Brooke_ okay fine 22:59 rangi pet peeve, there isnt only one :) 22:59 rangi a haka 22:59 rangi psst 22:55 Brooke_ surely someone has a choice stopped image of Mr. Poulain doing the haka... 22:36 Brooke_ sleep well 22:36 Brooke_ good night! 22:33 hdl good night 22:29 wasab1 cheers 22:27 rangi russ got ops that time, he'll op ppl when he gets a chance 22:25 gmcharlt wasab1: looks like you need to do it again, the katipo IRC server just bounced 22:24 jcamins_irssi I don't know. 22:21 jcamins_irssi I'm looking now. 22:21 gmcharlt wasab1: thanks 22:20 gmcharlt jcamins_irssi: maybe, maybe not; is there anything in the log? 22:20 wasab1 rangi: ops granted katipo irc…. 22:20 jcamins_irssi (biblioitems.marcxml) 22:19 jcamins_irssi If a record is failing to display in XSLT.pm, that means that the marcxml field is corrupt, correct? 22:16 ibeardslee It seems possible .. rather than a straight 'NO' 22:15 Brooke_ does that sufficiently answer your question, or would you like me to take a closer look via email or summat? 22:15 rangi danke 22:15 wasab1 rangi: will fix katipo irc in a tic 22:15 Brooke_ oof 22:14 Brooke_ its 22:14 Brooke_ this is the sort of thing that DC would make very easy by it's creator dohickey 22:14 Brooke_ you can always double down and make sure it's tagged on top of that 22:14 Brooke_ and if you've tagging active 22:13 Brooke_ you needs be sure that they all have Sting as an access point 22:13 Brooke_ anyhoo 22:13 * wizzyrea_ gulps 22:13 Brooke_ shhh you'll provoke them 22:13 rangi im my version of the world there are 22:12 wizzyrea_ there are cataloguing valkyries?! 22:12 Brooke_ valkyries even 22:12 Brooke_ the valyries are rarer. 22:12 Brooke_ it's shooting by the gay cataloguing mafia that is the more immediate danger 22:12 rangi and cataloguing valkyries ride in and stab you 22:12 Brooke_ it should if they're catalogued properly 22:12 rangi you get those kinda answers wrong 22:11 * rangi passes 22:10 ibeardslee can (as an example) Sting (as an author) show as the author of his book of poems, the 'author' of this CDs and as the actor in (eg Dune)? 22:09 BobB Hi Brooke ! 22:09 Brooke_ Bob! 22:08 * Brooke_ smells a cataloguing question 22:08 Brooke_ oh dear 22:08 ibeardslee if I have books, dvds and Cds in my personal koha instance 22:08 rangi 2 in cairo i think 22:08 rangi there are koha libraries in egypt 22:08 ibeardslee and now onto something koha related .. 22:05 ibeardslee and some will stay in the hands of private collectors or be destroyed by people how wonder of a second about the junk their relative collected as they biff stuff into the skip 22:04 Brooke_ shouldn't have to hold out that sort of hope 22:04 Brooke_ some of it will turn up again years later 22:01 rangi yeah :( 22:01 ibeardslee massive looting in their mueseum 22:01 * Brooke_ volunteered to go to Iraq to protect their Library for internship credit, but her Library School was having none of it 22:01 ibeardslee sadly no-one did that when Baghdad 'fell' 22:01 Brooke_ that's awesome 22:00 ibeardslee that is just amazing 22:00 rangi for those who havent seen it yet 22:00 rangi http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/feb/01/alexandria-youth-protecting-library 21:59 rangi Ahmuck: back, my linode runs bugs. paste. download. and hudson. ... it needs more disk if we want it to do much more 21:50 slef chris_n: on the one hand, it worked. On the other, having it buried in amongst updatedatabase output isn't going to be much of a big flag to most people who upgrade koha. 21:42 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: update opac renewal image now that you can select multiples 21:42 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #55: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/55/ 21:41 Ahmuck kk, i'll be back in about 1.5 hours 21:41 rangi meeting 21:41 rangi brb 21:40 Ahmuck need more space for what? 21:40 Ahmuck linode space 21:39 rangi eh? 21:39 Ahmuck rangi: space for what? 21:34 rangi 12 hours time :) 21:33 gbengaadara Trying to get prepared for the meeting in some hours time 21:32 gbengaadara Hello 21:32 * Brooke_ waves to mr. adara 21:30 hudsonbot Starting build 55 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:26 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add shelf browser preferences 21:26 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #54: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/54/ 21:15 hudsonbot Starting build 54 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:11 rangi wasab1: can you fix? 21:10 gmcharlt alohalog the bot does 21:10 gmcharlt actually, never mind, don't have op there 21:10 gmcharlt I'm going to change its topic 21:10 gmcharlt I see that the Katipo IRC server just came back 20:58 rangi no one has spazzed out yet, so id say that it has 20:57 rangi yup, we were just waiting to see if it stuck first 20:57 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add maxItemsInSearchResults preference 20:57 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #53: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/53/ 20:56 darling we might want to put a more easy to see news item on the web site re the irc change 20:56 rangi hi darling 20:55 darling hello people 20:53 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). 20:53 rangi @wunder wellington nz 20:51 gmcharlt *sigh* 20:51 huginn gmcharlt: The current temperature in Toronto Pearson, Ontario is -8.0�C (3:46 PM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: (Falling). 20:51 gmcharlt @wunder YYZ 20:45 hudsonbot Starting build 53 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:36 sekjal but that could be another mechanism 20:36 nengard thanks 20:36 sekjal nengard: maxItemsInSearchResults is definitely staff client... may be OPAC 20:36 hudsonbot * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.03.001 20:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 20:36 hudsonbot * Reed Wade: Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers 20:36 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #94: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/94/ 20:35 nengard and does that pref effect the opac and staff client or just one? 20:35 Brooke_ night 20:34 cait bye all :) 20:34 cait time to sleep, lots of work tomorrow 20:33 nengard am i reading the commit messages right - maxItemsInSearchResults was added back to 3.4 but not 3.2? 20:33 gmcharlt cait: Hrvatska 20:33 cait but it's croatia, you are right 20:33 cait oh, I had guessed hungary 20:32 Brooke_ looks like BiH 20:32 oleonard Chrome says it's Croatian? 20:31 cait nice opac 20:30 gmcharlt Brooke_: LOCKRS 20:30 rangi https://katalog.irb.hr/ 20:30 cait I really like the evil woman's fudge recipe 20:30 rangi i like this site 20:30 cait hehe 20:28 Brooke_ http://lesttheybelost.blogspot.com/ 20:28 Brooke_ oh dear gods, that evil woman has posted evil things on her blog again. *sigh* 20:27 cait rangi: that's ok - good to know it will go away 20:26 * Brooke_ cheers at oleonard 20:25 * oleonard made it through <TMPL> to <!-- TMPL -->, should be able to manage 20:25 chrisdothall oleonard: its worth it though, I promise, much nicer syntax :) 20:25 oleonard (not to mention the markup-parsing center of my HTML editor) 20:25 rangi oleonard: yeah, you'll find its a lot easier to spot what are comments and what are template tags now :) 20:24 cait borrowers account page is quite messy 20:24 cait oleonard: perhaps you could look at borrowers and the datepicker 20:24 oleonard Oh man the markup-parsing center of my brain is going to need a complete re-write! 20:24 rangi oleonard: do you see the table at the bottom? 20:24 cait will probably postpone testing to tomorrow though - because I want to go to bed ;) 20:24 rangi cait: it will go in with the template work, i probably wont get round to putting it in master before then 20:23 Brooke_ yeah rangi has some bad memory cells what need locating ;) 20:23 cait rangi: will this go into master and others too? should I test there again? 20:23 oleonard Anything in particular that needs to be tested? 20:22 rangi i knew i did it somewhere ;) 20:22 rangi ah ha 20:22 cait it seems fixed on template-test 20:22 cait rangi: hm! 20:21 rangi right, if chrisdothall has time, ill get him to take a look at that, its a fairly simple 3 or 2 line change iirc 20:20 cait yeah, better take it out 20:20 cait so if you have installed templates for an older version and updated your system without updating those templates... 20:20 rangi and overrides what the library have decided 20:20 rangi yup 20:20 cait not the languages marked in the sys prefs 20:20 cait the problem is, it takes all installed languages into account 20:19 cait yeah 20:19 rangi just let the user choose 20:19 cait rangi: I am with you 20:19 rangi it was good in theory, but in practice, its just annoying 20:19 cait I remember no patch for master or 3.2.x - not sure about the template branch 20:19 rangi my idea was just take the browser detection bit right out 20:18 cait I can test it quite easily though 20:18 rangi maybe i never sent a patch 20:18 cait rangi: you didn#t tell me 20:18 rangi i thought i did htat? 20:18 cait yes 20:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3754 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED, Language detection doesn't take really care of syspref 20:18 cait because the translated templates don't work there 20:18 chrisdothall cait: bug 3754? 20:18 cait it's a general problem but extra annoying if you try to test the templates 20:17 chrisdothall cait: is this for template_test? 20:17 cait if you have another language in your browser settings it breaks everything 20:17 chrisdothall oleonard: will do :) 20:17 cait I noted it on the wiki 20:17 cait and plz - can someone fix the language detection? 20:17 oleonard Something to add to the template toolkit test page on the wiki? 20:16 cait was about to look up the package name from my wiki :) 20:16 cait yeah, got that too 20:16 rangi yeah apt-get install libtemplate-perl 20:16 cait ah 20:16 Brooke_ ahoy hoy 20:16 wizzyrea_ hi brooke 20:16 oleonard Can't locate Template.pm in @INC 20:16 oleonard I just tried checking out template_test and I can't even log in 20:15 cait you are welcome 20:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to 3.02.03.001 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ab83557b562c3672b90acc6938e6f9c6d66dc4e> / Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=050b55f2ab1b2f65a9ce903d31d22cce8208b849> / Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko 20:14 chrisdothall cait: awesome, thanks again :) 20:14 cait yep 20:14 cait ype 20:13 chrisdothall cait: comma problem gone? 20:13 cait works :) 20:13 cait yep 20:13 hudsonbot Starting build 94 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:13 chrisdothall cait: sorry, that will work fine :) 20:12 cait hm? 20:12 chrisdothall cait: awesome works 20:11 cait ok, git fetch git rebase catalyst/template_test - right? 20:11 chrisdothall cait: with the comma problem fixed (hopefully :p ) 20:11 chrisdothall cait: just pushed the fixed templates to template_test now 20:11 oleonard http://nnvl.noaa.gov/MediaDetail.php?MediaID=640&MediaTypeID=1&sms_ss=twitter&at_xt=4d4859aadf12521d,0 20:10 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 4.0�C (2:55 PM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). 20:10 oleonard @wunder 45701 20:10 wizzyrea_ uh, if that's light freezing fog then I don't know what snow looks like 20:09 huginn wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -8.7�C (2:12 PM CST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). Blizzard Warning in effect until 6 am CST Wednesday... 20:09 wizzyrea_ @wunder lawrence, ks 20:09 cait I will be around for another 30 minutes I think 20:08 chrisdothall cait: I should be able to get the comma thing fixed in a few minutes if you have time now? 20:07 cait you can also write me a mail 20:07 cait let me know if you want me to test something, send a screenshot whatever 20:07 cait ok 20:07 cait hehe 20:07 chrisdothall cait: yea thats a problem caused by my conversion script. was looking at this section suspiciously yesterday, suspicion confirmed :) 20:06 cait checked in master too, it's , there 20:06 cait yep 20:05 chrisdothall cait: is something of the form a,b becomming acommab? 20:05 cait the comma in the value should actually be a , 20:05 cait I think it's a "translation" problem 20:05 cait can you take a look at the patron search? 20:04 cait ok, I have reset it to local 20:04 cait chrisdothall: was not sure if it's a general problem so noted the pages where i tried it 20:04 chrisdothall cait: for the yuipath, I beleive the "from yahoo" setting is broken (on yahoos end) so the local ones *should* be the best for every test. 20:03 chrisdothall cait: the date picker problem for tools/viewlog is also appearing elsewhere. Thanks again for this :) 20:03 cait chrisdothall: tried "from Yahoo" - no change for borrower account 20:01 huginn moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -11.0�C (2:04 PM CST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 PM CST this evening... 20:01 moodaepo @wunder 56001 20:01 cait see lots of problems there 20:01 cait yeah, the borrower templates... are not the best 20:00 chrisdothall cait: sadly its highly likely 19:59 cait perhaps a template problem in borrowers 19:59 cait most toolbars work, so I think it's not a general problem 19:59 cait np :) 19:59 chrisdothall cait: thanks :) 19:59 cait yui local: still no toolbar 19:57 cait but I will check the toolbar for borrowers 19:57 cait it's still the same as yesterday 19:56 chrisdothall cait: the yuipath setting should/could have affected your other entries concerning any menus / buttons. 19:56 gmcharlt after package configuration tweaks a couple settings in .gitconfig, user can then do a git fetch to update 19:56 cait the pup date limit disappears/appears 19:55 jcamins_irssi gmcharlt: oh, that makes sense. 19:55 chrisdothall cait: awesome thanks cait :) 19:55 gmcharlt jcamins_irssi: you could, but since there's nothing special about the layout of a git repo, you could just as easily make a debian package that includes a local copy of the repo 19:55 cait and/or/not and an option to duplicate the search fields should show up 19:55 cait yes, there should be more 19:54 chrisdothall cait: the only change I see when using fewer/more is the "limits" section appearing/disappearing 19:54 jcamins_irssi gmcharlt: wouldn't it be better to use git? 19:54 cait and the search index list is the same for both settings 19:53 cait it changes from more to fewer and back, but i get no boolean values 19:53 cait problems still stand - the OR groups thing and the more/fewer options 19:53 cait chrisdothall: no change for adv search 19:52 cait did a <strike> 19:52 rangi one of those anyway 19:52 rangi <del></del> or <strike> 19:51 cait how do you hm strike(?) something in mediawiki? 19:51 chrisdothall cait: could you also please check catalogue/search 'fewer options' and 'more options' having no effect 19:51 huginn rangi: chris_n was last seen in #koha 15 minutes and 27 seconds ago: <chris_n> jcamins_irssi: no... my blame-taking mode is write only... ;-) 19:51 rangi @seen chris_n 19:51 cait chrisdothall: is there more? :) 19:51 rangi chris_n: its a new feature (the privacy bit was taken out befor the 3.2.0 release) 19:51 rangi chris_n: im not sure you want to pull 3881 to 3.2.x 19:50 chrisdothall cait: haha that is actually good news :) 19:50 cait not sure what happened yesterday, perhaps a special constellation of things 19:49 cait chrisdothall: grr. now it works. I will delete the line from the wiki 19:49 rangi yeah 19:49 gmcharlt not *quite* full packaged, as it it would still require somebody to do an apt-get koha-dev first, but such a thing would be easy to maintain 19:48 cait let me check something 19:48 cait changed the yuisystempreference - got the box 19:48 jcamins_irssi gmcharlt: I'd think we'd need something that included X, though, if people might be booting off the disk. 19:48 cait yep, I have that one 19:48 chrisdothall sorry, up to date not data. 19:48 chrisdothall cait: template_test is still the most 'up to data' as far as the conversion goes 19:48 gmcharlt that could be closer than you might think - debian live CD modified to add Koha's deb apt repo + some tweaks have dev-mode install as a packaged option 19:47 cait chrisdothall: have created a new branch from catalyst now to get recent changes - is there a specific one? I have some time to retest 19:47 jcamins_irssi I mean, I have no idea how to make a live CD, but getting the answer was easy. 19:47 chrisdothall cait: for example: admin/preferences pop up box. I have both the pop up box as well as the black box at the bottom that brings up the gray area full of messages. 19:47 jcamins_irssi That's easy. 19:47 jcamins_irssi Okay, sekjal says live CD. 19:47 rangi ahh 19:47 jcamins_irssi Or an OVF. 19:47 jcamins_irssi rangi: like, you have a live CD for testing Koha. 19:47 sekjal I'd like to have a Koha .iso that folks can download, spin up, and git-pull the latest patches for testing 19:46 cait chrisdothall: which one? 19:46 cait I think we are confusing rangi :) 19:46 rangi live-testing as in? 19:46 rangi who what where? 19:46 jcamins_irssi rangi: sekjal: someone mentioned a live-testing environment. How do you envision that working? Bootable CD? OVF? 19:45 chrisdothall cait: awesome. Local is perfect. Some of your bugs I can't seem to duplicate locally. 19:45 cait want me to change to ' from Yahoo's own servers?' 19:45 cait you suggested changing the yuipath to local - I checked my database - already had that setting 19:45 nengard jcamins there are lots of tools - i use screenflow 19:44 chrisdothall hey cait :) 19:44 cait hi chrisdothall :) 19:43 cait could change to from Yahoo's own servers if he wants me to 19:43 cait he wrote on the wiki I should try if this setting makes the problems go away - but I already had the local files while testing 19:42 rangi cool 19:42 cait sure 19:42 cait (19:46:43) rangi: cait: did the yui change work for u? 19:42 rangi cait: chris hall has just arrived, will you have 10 mins to have a chat with him if i get him on here? 19:42 rangi ? 19:41 cait rangi:...see above 19:41 cait chris: my yuipatch was included with koha all the time 19:40 jcamins_irssi How do you do your instructional videos? 19:40 jcamins_irssi Well, looks like I have to start over from scratch. 19:39 jcamins_irssi nengard: you were saying you wanted a video of someone setting up a testing environment. 19:36 jcamins_irssi It was worth a try. 19:36 jcamins_irssi Ah well. 19:36 chris_n jcamins_irssi: no... my blame-taking mode is write only... ;-) 19:35 jcamins_irssi chris_n: if I blame you for my VirtualBox dying, will you tell me how to fix it? 19:35 nengard hiya 19:35 cait hi nengard 19:34 chris_n slef: gmcharlt was correct... that was an attempt to hold up a large flag 19:34 * cait blames chris_n for not having finished the clone and timemachine modules ;) 19:34 * chris_n is feeling pretty resilient atm 19:33 gmcharlt s/your/you for/ 19:33 chris_n oh, anything you'd like someone to blame something on 19:33 gmcharlt chris_n: I blame your contributing entirely too much good code to Koha 19:33 hdl whatever what ? 19:33 cait oh, so it was you? 19:32 * chris_n crawls out of the wood work to take the blame for whatever 19:32 hdl hi indradg 19:32 indradg hdl, hi 19:07 gmcharlt not without trawling through the commit logs and/or testing 19:06 slef gmcharlt: IOW no, we're not sure. 19:06 gmcharlt other (particularly Encode) represent real minimums 19:06 gmcharlt slef: hard to say; some may just be the versions that the original dev who added a module was using at the time 19:05 slef There's some there which are in debian stable but an earlier version 19:05 slef Are we sure that the version numbers are required? 19:04 gmcharlt to identify missing deps as well as those requiring an upgrade 19:04 gmcharlt slef: koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u 19:03 slef I don't want to do the whole Q+A again. 19:03 slef can someone remind me how to rerun the dependency check, please? 19:03 slef I wonder why that one didn't build on my first attempt, though :-/ 19:02 gmcharlt slef: right 19:02 slef gmcharlt: oh, I see, dependencies are no longer in Makefile.PL in 3.2 18:52 gmcharlt slef: I think it was just an effort to make sure that users didn't miss a dependency that would break overdue notices if not installed 18:52 slef gmcharlt: it doesn't predate Makefile.PL. I wonder why it's in updatedatabase.pl instead, or if it's a mistake. 18:49 rangi That's cool 18:49 jcamins_irssi Apparently VirtualBox isn't ACPI-compliant. 18:49 cait will try to test later 18:49 cait rangi: sorry, got home late, still eating my dinner 18:43 rangi cait: did the yui change work for u? 18:41 cait hi liw 18:40 rangi You found us liw :) 18:37 * liw waves 18:37 wizzyrea_ hey liw :) 18:36 jcamins Let's try a restart. 18:36 jcamins Uh-oh. VirtualBox just committed suicide. 18:33 wizzyrea_ sekjal++ for fixing the on order bug 18:29 indradg hi cait 18:19 * cait waves to jcamins :) 18:19 * jcamins waves to cait 18:16 cait hi all 18:13 gmcharlt nowadays answer is probably to chnage updatedatabase.pl to run a module check whenever it runs and report back 18:13 slef biab 18:13 gmcharlt slef: I think that might predate C4::I::PerlModule 18:12 slef chris_n: is there a reason for that to be in updatedatabase.pl not Makefile.PL? 18:12 slef git blames chris_n 18:11 slef lines 3498- 18:10 slef it's a handcoded notice 18:10 slef see $DBversion = '3.01.00.119' in updatedatabase.pl 18:09 rangi bbiab 18:08 gmcharlt right 18:08 rangi right, so should be the same eh? 18:08 gmcharlt rangi: it's all routed through C4::Installer::PerlModule nowadays 18:06 rangi does Makefile.PL not use the same dependencies file as the the web installer 17:57 slef bbi30 17:57 slef updatedatabase.pl errors not a known bug 17:55 slef Locale::Currency::Format notice not a known bug 17:54 slef I'll go search bugs and report if not. 17:53 slef Other odd thing during upgrade: the web installer noted "The Locale::Currency::Format package is not installed on your system or not found in @INC." but that's not in Makefile.PL 17:52 slef atz: ditto 17:51 atz slef: uh, joking, dude. 17:51 slef we should have linked to an AFF site in the announcement. Then more people would pay attention to it. 17:51 slef yeah, hiding by announcing it on lists, identi.ca, twitter, ... 17:50 oleonard No one can elude atz forever 17:50 wizzyrea_ j/k <3 17:50 wizzyrea_ we were hiding from you 17:50 atz so *this* is where you've been hiding out, eh? 17:47 slef I just got a lot of updatedatabase errors upgrading from 3.0 to 3.2 - is that a known problem? 17:46 jcamins gmcharlt: thanks! 17:45 pastebot0 "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "for jcamins" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/132 17:41 gmcharlt jcamins: sure, one sec 17:40 jcamins No, I like it. I wanted to steal whatever you did for the manual. 17:40 jcamins gmcharlt: ah. Ummm… how? 17:40 gmcharlt in any event, rangi and I can change it 17:40 gmcharlt jcamins: IIRC, I did 17:40 jcamins That makes it match the rest of the website. 17:40 jcamins The header. 17:39 rangi what part of it? 17:38 jcamins Who set up debian.koha-community.org? 17:36 nengard yes 17:35 indradg nengard, back from lunch? :) 17:32 nengard identify 17:26 jcamins :) 17:26 jcamins something very cynical. 17:26 jcamins And DSSSL (or however many 'S's there are) was designed to crush the hope of youth and replace it with the cynicism of... 17:24 wizzyrea_ ^^ 17:23 jcamins It's a kind of slow process since DocBook really wasn't designed with attractive output in mind. ;) 17:22 jcamins I'm working on the manual stuff. 17:21 wizzyrea_ yes, def what I'm using 17:18 wizzyrea_ (but I'm double checking) 17:18 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add keyboard shortcuts 17:18 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #52: SUCCESS in 18 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/52/ 17:18 wizzyrea_ yea that's what I'm using 17:17 pastebot0 "rangi" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "building pdf" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/131 17:11 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add keyboard shortcuts 17:11 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch build #5: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch/5/ 17:10 nengard k 17:09 rangi unless someone wants to give me money to buy more space 17:09 rangi im about out of space on my linnode 17:09 indradg good evening folks 17:09 rangi hudson cant do much more 17:08 wizzyrea_ I don't have an opinion on the matter really 17:08 nengard that's all I was asking 17:08 nengard wizzyrea, i know, but if hudson can do it that would be awesome - right? 17:08 nengard rangi the pdf is missing images - wizzyrea had done something special to get them to work 17:07 wizzyrea_ you have all the stuff you need to do it yourself, or jared does anyway. 17:07 nengard rangi if it wasn't in WP could we do it? 17:07 nengard and i don't think it's updating weekly 17:06 nengard wizzyrea - yes I did - but i thought I'd check 17:06 wizzyrea_ yep 17:06 rangi cos the html is stuck straight into wordpress 17:06 wizzyrea_ ok, back in the dizzle you told me that weekly was often enough 17:06 rangi not really 17:06 nengard rangi++ 17:06 nengard and i agrree 17:06 nengard now the pdf is newer than the html :) 17:06 nengard wizzyrea rangi can we automate the html generation that way? 17:06 wizzyrea_ oh now we're going to have to combine our karmas :P 17:05 wizzyrea_ rangi++ 17:05 wizzyrea_ hudson++ 17:05 wizzyrea_ will change the links 17:05 nengard ignore me 17:05 nengard sorry 17:05 jcamins Lunch time! 17:05 nengard which is that? 17:05 wizzyrea_ woot okies ty 17:05 rangi http://download.koha-community.org/manual_pdf/ 17:04 wizzyrea_ ;) 17:04 nengard wizzyrea :) 17:04 jwagner So it's not possible :-( 17:04 oleonard jwagner: TMPL vars are processed on the server side, jquery is processed on the client side 17:04 wizzyrea_ i knew you were going to do that, I don't think.. what she said 17:04 nengard i just don't know where it's storing them for linking 17:04 jwagner shows up but is trying to literally send TMPL_VAR_NAME instead of the contents 17:04 nengard i knew that 17:03 rangi nengard and wizzyrea_ you know that hudson is building all the pds now eh? 17:03 jwagner $("#moresearches").prepend("<a href=\'http://worldcat.org/search?q=\<\!\-\- TMPL_VAR NAME=\"title\" \-\-\>\\' target=\"_blank\">Worldcat</a> <span class='pipe'> | "); 17:03 jwagner Hrm. I may not need to do a patch or use those variables. oleonard, do you know how to embed a TMPL_VAR in a jquery statement? 17:00 hudsonbot Starting build 5 for job Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:00 hudsonbot Starting build 52 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:54 jwagner OK, thanks. I'll peck at it when I get a chance. 16:54 gmcharlt jwagner: sounds good to me 16:54 * wizzyrea_ didn't see the original question 16:53 jwagner Hearing no objection.... 16:46 jwagner I want to add ISSN (because it probably should be there) and also biblionumber for a specialized use for one of my clients. 16:45 jwagner I'd like to add a couple of variables, and make them available anywhere on the opac-detail page, so I can use them in a masthead link. Anyone see any problems with that? 16:45 nengard yes 16:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1934 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, Customize "Search for this title in..." links 16:45 jwagner nengard and anyone else, on Bug 1934 and subsequent revisions, it looks like those variables are only available for use inside the More Searches block. Is that correct? 16:27 sekjal may not solve it all out the gate, but it'll give a more solid structure for fixing things 16:27 sekjal I'm convinced the holds rewrite will help 16:27 oleonard Hence the brokenness :( 16:26 sekjal looks a bit more intense than that 16:25 sekjal dang... I was hoping this was one I could bang out today 16:25 kf meaningful_message++ 16:25 sekjal and preventing Multi Hold from going over 16:25 sekjal oh, and updating the templates to show a meaningful message when the max allowed is hit 16:25 kf ok, now you lost me ;) 16:24 sekjal so, the fix would involve adding to that table, adding a C4::Reserves subroutine to get the max allowed given a borrowernumber, and then inserting that check into opac/opac-reserve.pl, reserve/request.pl and Utility.pm 16:23 sekjal kf: yeah, that'd be better 16:23 kf have one per rule per library/itemtype/borrowercategory and a separate one for borrowercategory? 16:22 kf hm, I think in principle it should work like the maximum number of checkouts? 16:20 oleonard For us, it would be better to have a real, enforced, total maximum than a limit which was unenforced in some situations 16:19 sekjal oleonard: would adding maxreserves back in as a valid system preference solve the problem? I mean, of course it'd be less flexible, but would it work partially? 16:14 kmkale bye all. good night 16:14 kf have you seen chris hall's comment about yui on top of my table? 16:12 kf the templates will be converted already, so you don't have to run a script of something 16:12 kf so you have to add that to your remote repos first 16:11 kf from the catalyst repo 16:11 kf oleonard: I checked out template_test 16:11 oleonard kf: Here 16:11 wahanui kf: I forgot here 16:11 kf forget here 16:10 wahanui here is a tidbit- inspite of the disaster Butte migrated to 3.2.1 16:10 kf olenonard: still here? 16:10 oleonard Because if our limit for each itemtype is 5 and we have 5 itemtypes, we may still want to limit the total to 10, not 25 16:09 oleonard Yes 16:09 sekjal across all itemtypes 16:09 sekjal and the Holds Allowed values in Circ rules specify how many are allowed on a specific itemtype; we need some kind of limit on the total for the patron 16:07 oleonard You can place multiple holds at once and exceed the limit 16:07 oleonard For instance, if your total number of holds is below the limit 16:07 oleonard Right now the limit is in effect only some of the time 16:07 oleonard Yes 16:06 sekjal and preferrably, on a branchcode/categorycode basis? 16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, No check for maximum number of allowed holds. 16:06 sekjal oleonard: for bug 4045, is the goal for the library to be able to specify how many total holds requests a patron can place? 16:00 oleonard Did you check it out as a branch on your existing installation? 16:00 oleonard kf: What process did you follow to test Template Toolkit? 15:44 oleonard (or will replace, anyway) 15:44 oleonard jqueryUI replaces YUI javascript, not yui CSS grids 15:43 oleonard Nope 15:43 hdl oleonard: you worked on jqueryUI, is that not a replacement 15:43 oleonard yui grids++ until I see a better replacement 15:42 hdl yui grids-- 15:41 kmkale or with custom left margins? may not scale 15:41 oleonard It's not a simple fix 15:41 oleonard At least not without a lot of CSS re-writing 15:40 oleonard kmkale: I don't think you can, because of the way the logo, cart, and list buttons are floated 15:35 kmkale actually opac-main-search 15:33 kmkale trying to center the header-wrapper 15:31 kmkale oh, i was looking at text-align: center 15:31 oleonard That centers it on the page 15:30 oleonard In the grids CSS, #doc4 is given "margin: auto" 15:29 kmkale I am looking here http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/grids/grids-doc4.html but cant figure it out 15:29 oleonard Koha uses the YUI Grids CSS framework, and the doc4 ID means a different layout configuration 15:28 oleonard http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/ 15:28 kmkale ?? 15:28 kmkale oleonard: if have time can you tell me how changing to doc4 centered the page 15:04 jwagner oleonard, 30 char is better than 10 char :-) 15:03 jcamins Aww. Thanks. 15:03 druthb you're already memorable, jcamins. :) 15:03 * jcamins wonders whether he should switch to using his full last name, just to make sure everyone remembered him. ;) 15:02 oleonard 30 character limit 15:01 jwagner No it doesn't. That's nice :-) 15:01 jwagner Hey, does this IRC server have the limitation on nicknames? 14:42 kmkale just added that to opacuserjs & good to go :) thanks again owen 14:38 kmkale amazing one liners you come up with 14:37 * oleonard doesn't get many opportunities to tinker with the OPAC these days 14:36 oleonard You're quite welcome :) 14:36 kmkale oleonard++ 14:36 kmkale thanks a lot 14:36 kmkale : hey oleonard you are a magician 14:35 kmkale trying 14:35 oleonard Sorry kmkale, that should have been $("#doc3").attr("id","doc4"); 14:30 * oleonard frowns 14:29 kmkale oleonard: $("#doc3").attr("id","#doc4"); moved it to right. 14:28 oleonard And check out this for other options: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/ 14:28 oleonard Try $("#doc3").attr("id","#doc4"); 14:25 * oleonard tries to remember... 14:25 kmkale oleonard: one more question. Any trick to get the nav and main blocks to center on page? 14:24 kmkale ok. That works. And I have to rework the central block if I am to use it. 14:21 kmkale oleonard: trying it now 14:16 kmkale sorry had to take a call 14:09 oleonard That works from the Firebug console. 14:09 oleonard kmkale: $(".yui-ge div.yui-u").removeClass(); 14:06 oleonard Oh, that works too :) 14:06 oleonard Hmmm... I didn't try changing the class of the login form div container... 14:05 oleonard 2. Removing the "yui-u first" class from the div containing opacmainuserblock 14:04 oleonard 1. Remove the <div> containing the login form 14:04 oleonard kmkale: Tinkering with the source in Firebug, I can get it to work if I do two things 14:01 oleonard kmkale: I've never tried to eliminate that column, so you're in new territory 14:00 jwagner Very nice looking indeed! 14:00 kmkale hey owen coming from you, it feels good 13:59 oleonard Wow kmkale that's fancy! 13:58 kmkale opac.booksandmore.co.in 13:58 kmkale jwagner: Thanks but no. I have moved the login box around using owens trick. now there is a vacant third column. want to get rid of it 13:58 oleonard kmkale: And if that's not what you're trying to do, can you explain further? 13:57 jwagner kmkale, I'm not owen, but if you're just wanting to hide the big login box on the OPAC main page, this jquery should do it: $('#login').hide(); 13:54 druthb imma working on catching up with sekjal. But I keep giving him karma, because he's just so darned awesome. Probably not the best strategy for catching up to him. 13:54 tcohen hi #koha 13:53 gmcharlt oleonard: nothing wrong with that 13:53 oleonard Good grief someone lay on some karma for gmcharlt, there's no way I should be ahead of him 13:52 huginn oleonard: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 217 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 213. 13:52 oleonard @karma gmcharlt 13:35 oleonard gmcharlt++ 13:35 huginn gmcharlt: Karma for "owen" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0. 13:35 gmcharlt @karma owen 13:35 huginn gmcharlt: Karma for "oleonard" has been increased 223 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 218. 13:35 gmcharlt @karma oleonard 13:33 kmkale oleonard: how can I have opac main page with a two column layout? ( without disabling login from syspref ) 13:32 huginn druthb: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 60 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 59. 13:32 druthb @karma sekjal 13:32 huginn sekjal: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 54 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 54. 13:32 sekjal @karma druthb 13:31 gmcharlt oleonard: actually, it's me who can move karma around 13:31 huginn hdl: Remainder of title 13:31 hdl @marc 245 b 13:31 huginn hdl: Title 13:31 hdl @marc 245 a 13:31 huginn hdl: unknown tag 245$a 13:31 hdl @marc 245$a 13:31 huginn hdl: unknown tag 245a 13:31 hdl @marc 245a 13:28 huginn oleonard: Karma for "kf" has been increased 40 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 40. 13:28 oleonard @karma kf 13:28 huginn oleonard: Karma for "cait" has been increased 58 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 58. 13:28 oleonard @karma cait 13:28 oleonard I'll bet rangi will sort it out in time. He has done so for other nick changes and ambiguities 13:28 jcamins I guess I'll be typing "oleonard++" a lot if I want to transfer the karma. 13:27 huginn jcamins: Karma for "owen" has been increased 221 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 216. 13:27 jcamins @karma owen 13:27 huginn jcamins: Karma for "oleonard" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 13:27 jcamins @karma oleonard 13:27 jwagner Awww. What about their karma, then??? 13:26 druthb Because this server has a NickServ, and their old names were taken. 13:26 jwagner So why do people hide behind new nicknames here??? 13:26 oleonard That owen fellow, he was indeed a crazed branch-creating maniac. 13:25 huginn jwagner: Quote #88: "<owen> I'm a crazed branch-creating maniac" (added by jwagner at 07:42 PM, August 06, 2010) 13:25 jwagner @quote random 13:25 jwagner oleonard, it also has quotes :-) 13:23 magnuse oleonard: yup ;-) 13:21 jcamins No fudge. :( 13:21 oleonard This new IRC venue has the weather, that's really all we need isn't it? 13:17 huginn Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -5.0�C (2:00 PM CET on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 13:17 Ropuch @wunder Wroclaw 13:16 jcamins nengard: ooh, lucky me. 13:16 nengard jcamins your warning is in effect longer than mine ... guess it's heading north 13:14 jwagner Ya know, I finally understand why people have this urge to move to Florida, or Arizona, or the tropics. I'm getting tired of this stuff.... 13:11 druthb ;-) It's okay.. I'm staying inside anyway. 13:10 magnuse sorry 'bout that druthb... ;-) 13:07 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is -2.1�C (8:06 AM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 7 PM EST Wednesday... 13:07 jcamins @wunder 11375 13:04 druthb Warmer in Bodo than it is here. How rude! 13:04 magnuse g'day jcamins 13:03 magnuse looks more like snow to me... 13:03 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0�C (1:50 PM CET on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady). 13:03 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway 13:02 jcamins Good morning, #koha 12:53 nengard Bleh!! 12:53 huginn nengard: The current temperature in CWOP # AR939, Penndel, Pennsylvania is -3.3�C (7:56 AM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 4 PM EST Wednesday... 12:53 nengard @wunder 19030 12:50 kf I knew 2 horizon servers called hugin and munin 12:46 * magnuse wonders how they are pronounced in english... 12:45 magnuse hdl: yeah, those are pretty good pronounciations :-) 12:45 magnuse kf: it's not used in norwegian... http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugin_og_Munin 12:44 kf so is there ar eason for the double n? 12:43 hdl http://fr.forvo.com/search/hugin/ 12:43 hdl got it http://fr.forvo.com/word/munin/ 12:42 magnuse hdl: with a long u and a shorter i - hard to explain... 12:40 hdl But I will add sanitization to koha-zebra too 12:40 druthb She is. 12:40 slef For some reason, I assume Adrea is female. Curious. 12:40 hdl slef: this will be the last email from her... 12:40 slef argh! Adrea Lund is out of the office again. Anyone with list-admin powers to boot her from koha-zebra? hdl? 12:38 hdl hi kmkale druthb 12:38 kmkale hi hdl 12:37 hdl hi slef 12:37 hdl magnuse: how do you say munin 12:37 druthb hi, slef. :) 12:37 kmkale hey slef 12:37 slef hi all 12:37 kmkale magnuse: e? 12:36 magnuse hugin and munin were the ravens of odin in norse mythology... 12:35 wahanui hdl is, like, sure that Croswalking records in zebra is also ram demanding 12:35 magnuse hdl? 12:34 kf espresso time 12:34 kf *rollseyes* ok 12:34 kf you can teach him something else 12:34 wahanui i think cait is a competent programmer AND really sweet. 12:34 druthb wahanui: cait? 12:33 * druthb pouts. 12:33 wahanui kf: I forgot kf 12:33 kf forget kf 12:33 kmkale It reflected a Indic word Munim which is a sorta secretary / man friday 12:33 wahanui kf is probably an excellent cook: she makes tasty königsberger klopse mit salzkartoffeln 12:33 druthb wahanui: kf? 12:33 wahanui thanks kf :) 12:33 kf wahanui botsnack cookie 12:33 kf ibot = wahanui 12:33 kf munin = huginn 12:33 kmkale I liked that one. 12:33 kmkale aw where is munin? 12:33 kf is there a meaning to that? 12:32 kf but huginn? 12:32 jwagner Glad to see the bots made the trip... 12:32 huginn druthb: Quote #54: "<@gmcharlt> from my POV, bug wrangling expands to fill all available volunteers" (added by jwagner at 08:05 PM, February 09, 2010) 12:32 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -4.2�C (1:35 PM CET on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Steady). 12:32 druthb @quote random 12:32 kf @wunder Konstanz 12:32 huginn jwagner: The current temperature in Burning Tree Estates, Bethesda, Maryland is -2.6�C (7:35 AM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon EST today... 12:32 jwagner @wunder 20817 12:32 huginn kf: Quote #97: "chris_n shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond" (added by wizzyrea at 03:21 PM, October 08, 2010) 12:32 kf @quote random 12:32 huginn kf: Quote #62: "<fallor> is this a known thingy?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:18 PM, February 26, 2010) 12:32 kf @quote random 12:32 kmkale :) 12:31 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #108: "<owen> As Pee-wee said, Everyone I know has a big 'but'" (added by druthb at 03:20 PM, November 30, 2010) 12:31 gmcharlt @quote random 12:23 kf :) 12:23 kf huh thx 12:21 * hdl gives kf a cookie 12:21 kf perhaps lunch ;) 12:19 hdl magnus_away: ? 12:17 * kf gives druthb a cookie 12:15 * druthb starts her day with a "harrrumph!" 10:45 inpiki Ok. Thanks. Tryng in the long way. 10:18 magnuse inpiki: installing "manually" is a great way to learn more about the innards of koha, and i don't think the packages have much support for choosing other languages than english yet (i might be wrong, though) 10:15 kf_mtg hi inpiki 10:05 inpiki Ok. Thanks and Good Night. It's Breakfast Time for me (in Italy). 10:01 rangi right sleep time for me 10:00 * rangi uses packages for all his production machines, but for learning it might be better doing it the long way 10:00 inpiki I'll let you know. 10:00 rangi if you want 10:00 inpiki I don't know. Should I use packages? I think it's better to install step by step. 09:59 rangi yes 09:58 inpiki Do you mean "install koha with APT-GET" directly. 09:57 rangi are you using the packages? 09:57 inpiki ....starting the installation just now..... 09:56 inpiki Thank you. 09:56 rangi 64 bit is fine 09:56 inpiki I don't know if I can use 64-bit Debian or it's better to use 32-bit version 09:56 kmkale inpiki: debian 09:56 rangi debian squeeze has all the dependencies packaged, and koha itself is packaged for it at debian.koha-community.org 09:55 inpiki Is there someone who can help me to choose a distribution for koha 3.2 installation? 09:54 inpiki Hi to everybody and thanks for your work. 09:46 rangi http://topicfire.com/share/Egypt-protests-live-updates-16721704.html 09:09 kmkale brb 09:08 kmkale been looking for owen last couple of days. Guess our times dont match in here 09:06 rangi i dont im afraid 09:06 rangi owen would probably know 09:00 kmkale any idea how I can get a two column layout in opac main page? ( while retaining the login form; I know if we disable login from syspref we get a two column layout.) 08:54 kmkale hi kf 08:54 kf hi kmkale 08:53 kmkale hi rangi 08:53 rangi wb kmkale 08:49 rangi thats why i said "good luck" 08:48 rangi im not sure the person realises quite how big a job it is 08:48 rangi yeah exactly 08:48 fredericd rangi: part of this enhancement means rewriting Pootle... 08:48 rangi yes, dangerous 08:47 kf and it will need to have right to write files on the server 08:47 rangi not really no 08:47 kf and I think some of the process will change with template toolkit? 08:47 rangi good luck to them writing that :) 08:47 kf it's new 08:46 rangi hmm nope i hadnt seen that bug either kf 08:46 fredericd the scope of this enhancement confuses me... 08:46 fredericd kf: no 08:45 rangi 18.108.178.71.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer pool-71-178-108-18.washdc.east.verizon.net. 08:45 rangi host 71.178.108.18 08:45 rangi yes we do 08:45 magnuse and do we know anything about that IP? 08:44 kf rangi: hm yes 08:43 rangi but i fully expect them to try again 08:43 rangi which the wikipedia bots spotted as vandalism and reverted 08:42 rangi i was showing people https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Koha_%28software%29&action=historysubmit&diff=411310073&oldid=411023380 08:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5678 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Translations Manager 08:42 kf rangi, fredericd: seen bug 5678 08:42 magnuse ah 08:42 rangi better kf? 08:42 kf wikipedia article about koha 08:41 magnuse kf: where did you get the quote about windows? 08:40 magnuse hiya kf and rangi 08:40 rangi hi Ropuch 08:40 kf oh and morning magnuse of course :) 08:39 magnusenger g'day Ropuch 08:39 kf hi Ropuch :) 08:39 Ropuch Morning #koha 08:38 rangi ? 08:38 kf 'Although it's recommended that Koha be run on a Linux server[10], it will also work on Windows, provided that Apache, MySQL, and Perl are installed first' 08:38 kf and the file for that - is this still accurate? sounds a bit too easy for me. 08:38 kf hm, the part about windoes 08:34 rangi luckily the wikipedia bots caught it 08:34 rangi 2 guesses who that was 08:33 rangi 18.108.178.71.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer pool-71-178-108-18.washdc.east.verizon.net. 08:33 rangi host 71.178.108.18 08:33 rangi https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Koha_(software)&action=history 08:25 kf ouch 08:23 rangi eek 08:23 paul_p our hosting server down again :(((( 08:23 paul_p hi rangi. 08:23 rangi hi paul_p and hdl 08:20 paul_p morning kf 08:17 kf hi biblibre 08:06 kf can access from every computer easily that way and it documented in bugzilla 08:06 fredericd ok 08:06 kf fredericd: if you attach it to the bug I will be happy 08:05 fredericd kf: I will send you the patch directly by email 08:05 kf thx fredericd, I will test yours in the evening 08:03 rangi *nod* 08:03 fredericd yes, and it has been also easy to update it for testing 08:02 rangi its easier for me to update the number when i merge it to master 08:01 rangi yes please 08:01 fredericd do I send it back without modifying koha version number? (for rangi ) 08:01 fredericd 5431 works for me 08:00 fredericd I see, great 07:59 kf thx chris 07:59 rangi go together 07:59 wahanui 10853 07:59 rangi 5422 and 5431 07:59 fredericd which is displayed 'city, state' 07:59 kf or yes - until my branch goes through qa 07:59 kf no 07:58 fredericd but for borrower, we just have one field city, 07:58 kf right 07:58 fredericd So there are 2 separate fields: one for city and one for state 07:58 kf yes 07:58 fredericd kf: With your patch, there is a new field in branches table for state 07:54 rangi yep 07:54 kf or make a include or something, there are various places where address information is shown 07:52 kf ok, so I think this is something for later 07:51 rangi we could 07:49 kf rangi: do you know if we could use one of the 'filters' to define different address formats with template toolkit? 07:49 kf I think ieven German and french address formats differ - but this is probably something we should do after the template toolkit change 07:48 kf I think we will need to define a different address format for europeans 07:48 kf and would be happy if you could take a look at the state things 07:48 kf ok, i will write me a note 07:48 kf ah I see 07:47 kf let me check the bug for questions 07:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5431 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Separate state field for library addresses 07:46 fredericd In exchange, I will give a try to bug 5431... 07:46 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #331: FIXED in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/331/ 07:46 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed! 07:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4103 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Intranet search page should always defaults 'Individual Libraries' to all for superlibrarian 07:45 fredericd bug 4103 07:44 kf fredericd: could try tonight - what is it? 07:44 rangi cool 07:43 fredericd rangi: I've send a patch to fix a small bug in updatedatabase.pl which throw a warning during update 07:43 rangi hi fredericd 07:42 fredericd kf: would you sign-off a patch? 07:42 fredericd hello there 07:34 kf because they found the other process to slow on the circ desk 07:34 kf I have one library doing fast adds - at the moment they use the notes fields 07:34 rangi yep 07:34 kf that would make it really quick 07:34 kf and have item and basic titel information on one screen for fast adds 07:33 kf yep we should :) 07:33 rangi we should do it 07:33 rangi that could be done with some jquery 07:33 kf it's more complicated in koha right now 07:33 kf which pops up when you scan in an unknwon barcode 07:33 kf but not the fast add they describehere 07:32 kf yes 07:32 rangi like fast add, audible alerts, anonymize patrons etc 07:32 rangi theres a bunch we have 07:31 kf I want a lot of those things for koha .) 07:31 rangi they did well 07:31 rangi yep 07:31 kf http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature_list_2_0 07:31 kf the evergreen 2.0 feature list is quite impressive 07:31 rangi yup 07:31 kf hope someone takes time to look at it 07:30 kf thx 07:30 rangi to an awaiting_qa branch, so should be easy to be signed off 07:30 rangi pushed 5431 up 07:28 kf thx rangi 07:27 rangi wb kf 07:27 kf good morning #koha 07:20 hudsonbot Starting build 331 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #329 51 min ago) 07:19 hudsonbot rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now 07:19 rangi !hudson build koha_master now 07:18 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version 07:18 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 07:18 hudsonbot * Reed Wade: Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers 07:18 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #330: UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/330/ 06:53 hudsonbot Starting build 330 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:52 hudsonbot Owen Leonard: Revised fix for Bug 3850 - Budget Planning Pages Need Design Work 06:52 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #329: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/329/ 06:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18b1d5c30ffe3c01413e50a97ac9d90149621550> / Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e74643b902338caa123de8a2d54e8523b8d4245f> / Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd 06:42 cait ok, bbl :) 06:29 rangi cool 06:28 hudsonbot Starting build 329 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:28 cait I see the comment on the wiki page - will try tonight 06:28 cait morning chris 06:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revised fix for Bug 3850 - Budget Planning Pages Need Design Work <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=86576e7fd234999df3a35493cb997f6d23d72949> 06:26 rangi hi cait 06:17 cait hi #koha 05:48 BobB Will try later. 05:47 BobB Is anyone about? 05:45 BobB Hi #koha - we've found our way to the new irc site. It seems katipo is still down? 03:38 rangi they'll find it :) 03:38 kmkale hi rangi 03:38 rangi hi kmkale 03:38 kmkale apparently the new server has not reached many ppl yet 03:38 kmkale Namaskar #koha 02:26 * LBA waves nighty night 02:24 druthb hi. :) 02:24 rangi heya druthb 02:20 rangi yay 02:20 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch build #4: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch/4/ 02:07 hudsonbot Starting build 4 for job Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #1 6 days 9 hr ago) 01:03 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/4604034/900m-Internet-Explorer-users-vulnerable-to-hack 00:32 rangi cool, good enough 00:31 LBA we are going to release our PPT slides with text (not transcripts but statements from each library in response to my questions) 00:29 rangi ahh maybe arcadia will write it up on their blog 00:29 LBA I think there is an archive but I think they make it available only to people who paid to attend...Which sucks. Let me see. 00:28 rangi yeah 00:27 LBA the webinar? 00:25 rangi yeah, was wondering how the session with arcadia went, and if its gonna be put up anywhere? 00:24 LBA Rangi, I'm here. Still want to talk?