Time Nick Message 00:24 LBA Rangi, I'm here. Still want to talk? 00:25 rangi yeah, was wondering how the session with arcadia went, and if its gonna be put up anywhere? 00:27 LBA the webinar? 00:28 rangi yeah 00:29 LBA I think there is an archive but I think they make it available only to people who paid to attend...Which sucks. Let me see. 00:29 rangi ahh maybe arcadia will write it up on their blog 00:31 LBA we are going to release our PPT slides with text (not transcripts but statements from each library in response to my questions) 00:32 rangi cool, good enough 01:03 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/4604034/900m-Internet-Explorer-users-vulnerable-to-hack 02:07 hudsonbot Starting build 4 for job Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #1 6 days 9 hr ago) 02:20 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch build #4: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch/4/ 02:20 rangi yay 02:24 rangi heya druthb 02:24 druthb hi. :) 02:26 * LBA waves nighty night 03:38 kmkale Namaskar #koha 03:38 kmkale apparently the new server has not reached many ppl yet 03:38 rangi hi kmkale 03:38 kmkale hi rangi 03:38 rangi they'll find it :) 05:45 BobB Hi #koha - we've found our way to the new irc site. It seems katipo is still down? 05:47 BobB Is anyone about? 05:48 BobB Will try later. 06:17 cait hi #koha 06:26 rangi hi cait 06:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revised fix for Bug 3850 - Budget Planning Pages Need Design Work <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=86576e7fd234999df3a35493cb997f6d23d72949> 06:28 cait morning chris 06:28 cait I see the comment on the wiki page - will try tonight 06:28 hudsonbot Starting build 329 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:29 rangi cool 06:42 cait ok, bbl :) 06:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18b1d5c30ffe3c01413e50a97ac9d90149621550> / Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e74643b902338caa123de8a2d54e8523b8d4245f> / Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd 06:52 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #329: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/329/ 06:52 hudsonbot Owen Leonard: Revised fix for Bug 3850 - Budget Planning Pages Need Design Work 06:53 hudsonbot Starting build 330 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 07:18 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #330: UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/330/ 07:18 hudsonbot * Reed Wade: Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers 07:18 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 07:18 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version 07:19 rangi !hudson build koha_master now 07:19 hudsonbot rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now 07:20 hudsonbot Starting build 331 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #329 51 min ago) 07:27 kf good morning #koha 07:27 rangi wb kf 07:28 kf thx rangi 07:30 rangi pushed 5431 up 07:30 rangi to an awaiting_qa branch, so should be easy to be signed off 07:30 kf thx 07:31 kf hope someone takes time to look at it 07:31 rangi yup 07:31 kf the evergreen 2.0 feature list is quite impressive 07:31 kf http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature_list_2_0 07:31 rangi yep 07:31 rangi they did well 07:31 kf I want a lot of those things for koha .) 07:32 rangi theres a bunch we have 07:32 rangi like fast add, audible alerts, anonymize patrons etc 07:32 kf yes 07:33 kf but not the fast add they describehere 07:33 kf which pops up when you scan in an unknwon barcode 07:33 kf it's more complicated in koha right now 07:33 rangi that could be done with some jquery 07:33 rangi we should do it 07:33 kf yep we should :) 07:34 kf and have item and basic titel information on one screen for fast adds 07:34 kf that would make it really quick 07:34 rangi yep 07:34 kf I have one library doing fast adds - at the moment they use the notes fields 07:34 kf because they found the other process to slow on the circ desk 07:42 fredericd hello there 07:42 fredericd kf: would you sign-off a patch? 07:43 rangi hi fredericd 07:43 fredericd rangi: I've send a patch to fix a small bug in updatedatabase.pl which throw a warning during update 07:44 rangi cool 07:44 kf fredericd: could try tonight - what is it? 07:45 fredericd bug 4103 07:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4103 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Intranet search page should always defaults 'Individual Libraries' to all for superlibrarian 07:46 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed! 07:46 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #331: FIXED in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/331/ 07:46 fredericd In exchange, I will give a try to bug 5431... 07:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5431 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Separate state field for library addresses 07:47 kf let me check the bug for questions 07:48 kf ah I see 07:48 kf ok, i will write me a note 07:48 kf and would be happy if you could take a look at the state things 07:48 kf I think we will need to define a different address format for europeans 07:49 kf I think ieven German and french address formats differ - but this is probably something we should do after the template toolkit change 07:49 kf rangi: do you know if we could use one of the 'filters' to define different address formats with template toolkit? 07:51 rangi we could 07:52 kf ok, so I think this is something for later 07:54 kf or make a include or something, there are various places where address information is shown 07:54 rangi yep 07:58 fredericd kf: With your patch, there is a new field in branches table for state 07:58 kf yes 07:58 fredericd So there are 2 separate fields: one for city and one for state 07:58 kf right 07:58 fredericd but for borrower, we just have one field city, 07:59 kf no 07:59 kf or yes - until my branch goes through qa 07:59 fredericd which is displayed 'city, state' 07:59 rangi 5422 and 5431 07:59 wahanui 10853 07:59 rangi go together 07:59 kf thx chris 08:00 fredericd I see, great 08:01 fredericd 5431 works for me 08:01 fredericd do I send it back without modifying koha version number? (for rangi ) 08:01 rangi yes please 08:02 rangi its easier for me to update the number when i merge it to master 08:03 fredericd yes, and it has been also easy to update it for testing 08:03 rangi *nod* 08:05 kf thx fredericd, I will test yours in the evening 08:05 fredericd kf: I will send you the patch directly by email 08:06 kf fredericd: if you attach it to the bug I will be happy 08:06 fredericd ok 08:06 kf can access from every computer easily that way and it documented in bugzilla 08:17 kf hi biblibre 08:20 paul_p morning kf 08:23 rangi hi paul_p and hdl 08:23 paul_p hi rangi. 08:23 paul_p our hosting server down again :(((( 08:23 rangi eek 08:25 kf ouch 08:33 rangi https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Koha_(software)&action=history 08:33 rangi host 71.178.108.18 08:33 rangi 18.108.178.71.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer pool-71-178-108-18.washdc.east.verizon.net. 08:34 rangi 2 guesses who that was 08:34 rangi luckily the wikipedia bots caught it 08:38 kf hm, the part about windoes 08:38 kf and the file for that - is this still accurate? sounds a bit too easy for me. 08:38 kf 'Although it's recommended that Koha be run on a Linux server[10], it will also work on Windows, provided that Apache, MySQL, and Perl are installed first' 08:38 rangi ? 08:39 Ropuch Morning #koha 08:39 kf hi Ropuch :) 08:39 magnusenger g'day Ropuch 08:40 kf oh and morning magnuse of course :) 08:40 rangi hi Ropuch 08:40 magnuse hiya kf and rangi 08:41 magnuse kf: where did you get the quote about windows? 08:42 kf wikipedia article about koha 08:42 rangi better kf? 08:42 magnuse ah 08:42 kf rangi, fredericd: seen bug 5678 08:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5678 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Translations Manager 08:42 rangi i was showing people https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Koha_%28software%29&action=historysubmit&diff=411310073&oldid=411023380 08:43 rangi which the wikipedia bots spotted as vandalism and reverted 08:43 rangi but i fully expect them to try again 08:44 kf rangi: hm yes 08:45 magnuse and do we know anything about that IP? 08:45 rangi yes we do 08:45 rangi host 71.178.108.18 08:45 rangi 18.108.178.71.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer pool-71-178-108-18.washdc.east.verizon.net. 08:46 fredericd kf: no 08:46 fredericd the scope of this enhancement confuses me... 08:46 rangi hmm nope i hadnt seen that bug either kf 08:47 kf it's new 08:47 rangi good luck to them writing that :) 08:47 kf and I think some of the process will change with template toolkit? 08:47 rangi not really no 08:47 kf and it will need to have right to write files on the server 08:48 rangi yes, dangerous 08:48 fredericd rangi: part of this enhancement means rewriting Pootle... 08:48 rangi yeah exactly 08:48 rangi im not sure the person realises quite how big a job it is 08:49 rangi thats why i said "good luck" 08:53 rangi wb kmkale 08:53 kmkale hi rangi 08:54 kf hi kmkale 08:54 kmkale hi kf 09:00 kmkale any idea how I can get a two column layout in opac main page? ( while retaining the login form; I know if we disable login from syspref we get a two column layout.) 09:06 rangi owen would probably know 09:06 rangi i dont im afraid 09:08 kmkale been looking for owen last couple of days. Guess our times dont match in here 09:09 kmkale brb 09:46 rangi http://topicfire.com/share/Egypt-protests-live-updates-16721704.html 09:54 inpiki Hi to everybody and thanks for your work. 09:55 inpiki Is there someone who can help me to choose a distribution for koha 3.2 installation? 09:56 rangi debian squeeze has all the dependencies packaged, and koha itself is packaged for it at debian.koha-community.org 09:56 kmkale inpiki: debian 09:56 inpiki I don't know if I can use 64-bit Debian or it's better to use 32-bit version 09:56 rangi 64 bit is fine 09:56 inpiki Thank you. 09:57 inpiki ....starting the installation just now..... 09:57 rangi are you using the packages? 09:58 inpiki Do you mean "install koha with APT-GET" directly. 09:59 rangi yes 10:00 inpiki I don't know. Should I use packages? I think it's better to install step by step. 10:00 rangi if you want 10:00 inpiki I'll let you know. 10:00 * rangi uses packages for all his production machines, but for learning it might be better doing it the long way 10:01 rangi right sleep time for me 10:05 inpiki Ok. Thanks and Good Night. It's Breakfast Time for me (in Italy). 10:15 kf_mtg hi inpiki 10:18 magnuse inpiki: installing "manually" is a great way to learn more about the innards of koha, and i don't think the packages have much support for choosing other languages than english yet (i might be wrong, though) 10:45 inpiki Ok. Thanks. Tryng in the long way. 12:15 * druthb starts her day with a "harrrumph!" 12:17 * kf gives druthb a cookie 12:19 hdl magnus_away: ? 12:21 kf perhaps lunch ;) 12:21 * hdl gives kf a cookie 12:23 kf huh thx 12:23 kf :) 12:31 gmcharlt @quote random 12:31 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #108: "<owen> As Pee-wee said, Everyone I know has a big 'but'" (added by druthb at 03:20 PM, November 30, 2010) 12:32 kmkale :) 12:32 kf @quote random 12:32 huginn kf: Quote #62: "<fallor> is this a known thingy?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:18 PM, February 26, 2010) 12:32 kf @quote random 12:32 huginn kf: Quote #97: "chris_n shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond" (added by wizzyrea at 03:21 PM, October 08, 2010) 12:32 jwagner @wunder 20817 12:32 huginn jwagner: The current temperature in Burning Tree Estates, Bethesda, Maryland is -2.6�C (7:35 AM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon EST today... 12:32 kf @wunder Konstanz 12:32 druthb @quote random 12:32 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -4.2�C (1:35 PM CET on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Steady). 12:32 huginn druthb: Quote #54: "<@gmcharlt> from my POV, bug wrangling expands to fill all available volunteers" (added by jwagner at 08:05 PM, February 09, 2010) 12:32 jwagner Glad to see the bots made the trip... 12:32 kf but huginn? 12:33 kf is there a meaning to that? 12:33 kmkale aw where is munin? 12:33 kmkale I liked that one. 12:33 kf munin = huginn 12:33 kf ibot = wahanui 12:33 kf wahanui botsnack cookie 12:33 wahanui thanks kf :) 12:33 druthb wahanui: kf? 12:33 wahanui kf is probably an excellent cook: she makes tasty königsberger klopse mit salzkartoffeln 12:33 kmkale It reflected a Indic word Munim which is a sorta secretary / man friday 12:33 kf forget kf 12:33 wahanui kf: I forgot kf 12:33 * druthb pouts. 12:34 druthb wahanui: cait? 12:34 wahanui i think cait is a competent programmer AND really sweet. 12:34 kf you can teach him something else 12:34 kf *rollseyes* ok 12:34 kf espresso time 12:35 magnuse hdl? 12:35 wahanui hdl is, like, sure that Croswalking records in zebra is also ram demanding 12:36 magnuse hugin and munin were the ravens of odin in norse mythology... 12:37 kmkale magnuse: e? 12:37 slef hi all 12:37 kmkale hey slef 12:37 druthb hi, slef. :) 12:37 hdl magnuse: how do you say munin 12:37 hdl hi slef 12:38 kmkale hi hdl 12:38 hdl hi kmkale druthb 12:40 slef argh! Adrea Lund is out of the office again. Anyone with list-admin powers to boot her from koha-zebra? hdl? 12:40 hdl slef: this will be the last email from her... 12:40 slef For some reason, I assume Adrea is female. Curious. 12:40 druthb She is. 12:40 hdl But I will add sanitization to koha-zebra too 12:42 magnuse hdl: with a long u and a shorter i - hard to explain... 12:43 hdl got it http://fr.forvo.com/word/munin/ 12:43 hdl http://fr.forvo.com/search/hugin/ 12:44 kf so is there ar eason for the double n? 12:45 magnuse kf: it's not used in norwegian... http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugin_og_Munin 12:45 magnuse hdl: yeah, those are pretty good pronounciations :-) 12:46 * magnuse wonders how they are pronounced in english... 12:50 kf I knew 2 horizon servers called hugin and munin 12:53 nengard @wunder 19030 12:53 huginn nengard: The current temperature in CWOP # AR939, Penndel, Pennsylvania is -3.3�C (7:56 AM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 4 PM EST Wednesday... 12:53 nengard Bleh!! 13:02 jcamins Good morning, #koha 13:03 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway 13:03 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0�C (1:50 PM CET on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady). 13:03 magnuse looks more like snow to me... 13:04 magnuse g'day jcamins 13:04 druthb Warmer in Bodo than it is here. How rude! 13:07 jcamins @wunder 11375 13:07 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is -2.1�C (8:06 AM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 7 PM EST Wednesday... 13:10 magnuse sorry 'bout that druthb... ;-) 13:11 druthb ;-) It's okay.. I'm staying inside anyway. 13:14 jwagner Ya know, I finally understand why people have this urge to move to Florida, or Arizona, or the tropics. I'm getting tired of this stuff.... 13:16 nengard jcamins your warning is in effect longer than mine ... guess it's heading north 13:16 jcamins nengard: ooh, lucky me. 13:17 Ropuch @wunder Wroclaw 13:17 huginn Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -5.0�C (2:00 PM CET on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 13:21 oleonard This new IRC venue has the weather, that's really all we need isn't it? 13:21 jcamins No fudge. :( 13:23 magnuse oleonard: yup ;-) 13:25 jwagner oleonard, it also has quotes :-) 13:25 jwagner @quote random 13:25 huginn jwagner: Quote #88: "<owen> I'm a crazed branch-creating maniac" (added by jwagner at 07:42 PM, August 06, 2010) 13:26 oleonard That owen fellow, he was indeed a crazed branch-creating maniac. 13:26 jwagner So why do people hide behind new nicknames here??? 13:26 druthb Because this server has a NickServ, and their old names were taken. 13:27 jwagner Awww. What about their karma, then??? 13:27 jcamins @karma oleonard 13:27 huginn jcamins: Karma for "oleonard" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 13:27 jcamins @karma owen 13:27 huginn jcamins: Karma for "owen" has been increased 221 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 216. 13:28 jcamins I guess I'll be typing "oleonard++" a lot if I want to transfer the karma. 13:28 oleonard I'll bet rangi will sort it out in time. He has done so for other nick changes and ambiguities 13:28 oleonard @karma cait 13:28 huginn oleonard: Karma for "cait" has been increased 58 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 58. 13:28 oleonard @karma kf 13:28 huginn oleonard: Karma for "kf" has been increased 40 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 40. 13:31 hdl @marc 245a 13:31 huginn hdl: unknown tag 245a 13:31 hdl @marc 245$a 13:31 huginn hdl: unknown tag 245$a 13:31 hdl @marc 245 a 13:31 huginn hdl: Title 13:31 hdl @marc 245 b 13:31 huginn hdl: Remainder of title 13:31 gmcharlt oleonard: actually, it's me who can move karma around 13:32 sekjal @karma druthb 13:32 huginn sekjal: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 54 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 54. 13:32 druthb @karma sekjal 13:32 huginn druthb: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 60 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 59. 13:33 kmkale oleonard: how can I have opac main page with a two column layout? ( without disabling login from syspref ) 13:35 gmcharlt @karma oleonard 13:35 huginn gmcharlt: Karma for "oleonard" has been increased 223 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 218. 13:35 gmcharlt @karma owen 13:35 huginn gmcharlt: Karma for "owen" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0. 13:35 oleonard gmcharlt++ 13:52 oleonard @karma gmcharlt 13:52 huginn oleonard: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 217 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 213. 13:53 oleonard Good grief someone lay on some karma for gmcharlt, there's no way I should be ahead of him 13:53 gmcharlt oleonard: nothing wrong with that 13:54 tcohen hi #koha 13:54 druthb imma working on catching up with sekjal. But I keep giving him karma, because he's just so darned awesome. Probably not the best strategy for catching up to him. 13:57 jwagner kmkale, I'm not owen, but if you're just wanting to hide the big login box on the OPAC main page, this jquery should do it: $('#login').hide(); 13:58 oleonard kmkale: And if that's not what you're trying to do, can you explain further? 13:58 kmkale jwagner: Thanks but no. I have moved the login box around using owens trick. now there is a vacant third column. want to get rid of it 13:58 kmkale opac.booksandmore.co.in 13:59 oleonard Wow kmkale that's fancy! 14:00 kmkale hey owen coming from you, it feels good 14:00 jwagner Very nice looking indeed! 14:01 oleonard kmkale: I've never tried to eliminate that column, so you're in new territory 14:04 oleonard kmkale: Tinkering with the source in Firebug, I can get it to work if I do two things 14:04 oleonard 1. Remove the <div> containing the login form 14:05 oleonard 2. Removing the "yui-u first" class from the div containing opacmainuserblock 14:06 oleonard Hmmm... I didn't try changing the class of the login form div container... 14:06 oleonard Oh, that works too :) 14:09 oleonard kmkale: $(".yui-ge div.yui-u").removeClass(); 14:09 oleonard That works from the Firebug console. 14:16 kmkale sorry had to take a call 14:21 kmkale oleonard: trying it now 14:24 kmkale ok. That works. And I have to rework the central block if I am to use it. 14:25 kmkale oleonard: one more question. Any trick to get the nav and main blocks to center on page? 14:25 * oleonard tries to remember... 14:28 oleonard Try $("#doc3").attr("id","#doc4"); 14:28 oleonard And check out this for other options: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/ 14:29 kmkale oleonard: $("#doc3").attr("id","#doc4"); moved it to right. 14:30 * oleonard frowns 14:35 oleonard Sorry kmkale, that should have been $("#doc3").attr("id","doc4"); 14:35 kmkale trying 14:36 kmkale : hey oleonard you are a magician 14:36 kmkale thanks a lot 14:36 kmkale oleonard++ 14:36 oleonard You're quite welcome :) 14:37 * oleonard doesn't get many opportunities to tinker with the OPAC these days 14:38 kmkale amazing one liners you come up with 14:42 kmkale just added that to opacuserjs & good to go :) thanks again owen 15:01 jwagner Hey, does this IRC server have the limitation on nicknames? 15:01 jwagner No it doesn't. That's nice :-) 15:02 oleonard 30 character limit 15:03 * jcamins wonders whether he should switch to using his full last name, just to make sure everyone remembered him. ;) 15:03 druthb you're already memorable, jcamins. :) 15:03 jcamins Aww. Thanks. 15:04 jwagner oleonard, 30 char is better than 10 char :-) 15:28 kmkale oleonard: if have time can you tell me how changing to doc4 centered the page 15:28 kmkale ?? 15:28 oleonard http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/ 15:29 oleonard Koha uses the YUI Grids CSS framework, and the doc4 ID means a different layout configuration 15:29 kmkale I am looking here http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/grids/grids-doc4.html but cant figure it out 15:30 oleonard In the grids CSS, #doc4 is given "margin: auto" 15:31 oleonard That centers it on the page 15:31 kmkale oh, i was looking at text-align: center 15:33 kmkale trying to center the header-wrapper 15:35 kmkale actually opac-main-search 15:40 oleonard kmkale: I don't think you can, because of the way the logo, cart, and list buttons are floated 15:41 oleonard At least not without a lot of CSS re-writing 15:41 oleonard It's not a simple fix 15:41 kmkale or with custom left margins? may not scale 15:42 hdl yui grids-- 15:43 oleonard yui grids++ until I see a better replacement 15:43 hdl oleonard: you worked on jqueryUI, is that not a replacement 15:43 oleonard Nope 15:44 oleonard jqueryUI replaces YUI javascript, not yui CSS grids 15:44 oleonard (or will replace, anyway) 16:00 oleonard kf: What process did you follow to test Template Toolkit? 16:00 oleonard Did you check it out as a branch on your existing installation? 16:06 sekjal oleonard: for bug 4045, is the goal for the library to be able to specify how many total holds requests a patron can place? 16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, No check for maximum number of allowed holds. 16:06 sekjal and preferrably, on a branchcode/categorycode basis? 16:07 oleonard Yes 16:07 oleonard Right now the limit is in effect only some of the time 16:07 oleonard For instance, if your total number of holds is below the limit 16:07 oleonard You can place multiple holds at once and exceed the limit 16:09 sekjal and the Holds Allowed values in Circ rules specify how many are allowed on a specific itemtype; we need some kind of limit on the total for the patron 16:09 sekjal across all itemtypes 16:09 oleonard Yes 16:10 oleonard Because if our limit for each itemtype is 5 and we have 5 itemtypes, we may still want to limit the total to 10, not 25 16:10 kf olenonard: still here? 16:10 wahanui here is a tidbit- inspite of the disaster Butte migrated to 3.2.1 16:11 kf forget here 16:11 wahanui kf: I forgot here 16:11 oleonard kf: Here 16:11 kf oleonard: I checked out template_test 16:11 kf from the catalyst repo 16:12 kf so you have to add that to your remote repos first 16:12 kf the templates will be converted already, so you don't have to run a script of something 16:14 kf have you seen chris hall's comment about yui on top of my table? 16:14 kmkale bye all. good night 16:19 sekjal oleonard: would adding maxreserves back in as a valid system preference solve the problem? I mean, of course it'd be less flexible, but would it work partially? 16:20 oleonard For us, it would be better to have a real, enforced, total maximum than a limit which was unenforced in some situations 16:22 kf hm, I think in principle it should work like the maximum number of checkouts? 16:23 kf have one per rule per library/itemtype/borrowercategory and a separate one for borrowercategory? 16:23 sekjal kf: yeah, that'd be better 16:24 sekjal so, the fix would involve adding to that table, adding a C4::Reserves subroutine to get the max allowed given a borrowernumber, and then inserting that check into opac/opac-reserve.pl, reserve/request.pl and Utility.pm 16:25 kf ok, now you lost me ;) 16:25 sekjal oh, and updating the templates to show a meaningful message when the max allowed is hit 16:25 sekjal and preventing Multi Hold from going over 16:25 kf meaningful_message++ 16:25 sekjal dang... I was hoping this was one I could bang out today 16:26 sekjal looks a bit more intense than that 16:27 oleonard Hence the brokenness :( 16:27 sekjal I'm convinced the holds rewrite will help 16:27 sekjal may not solve it all out the gate, but it'll give a more solid structure for fixing things 16:45 jwagner nengard and anyone else, on Bug 1934 and subsequent revisions, it looks like those variables are only available for use inside the More Searches block. Is that correct? 16:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1934 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, Customize "Search for this title in..." links 16:45 nengard yes 16:45 jwagner I'd like to add a couple of variables, and make them available anywhere on the opac-detail page, so I can use them in a masthead link. Anyone see any problems with that? 16:46 jwagner I want to add ISSN (because it probably should be there) and also biblionumber for a specialized use for one of my clients. 16:53 jwagner Hearing no objection.... 16:54 * wizzyrea_ didn't see the original question 16:54 gmcharlt jwagner: sounds good to me 16:54 jwagner OK, thanks. I'll peck at it when I get a chance. 17:00 hudsonbot Starting build 52 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:00 hudsonbot Starting build 5 for job Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:03 jwagner Hrm. I may not need to do a patch or use those variables. oleonard, do you know how to embed a TMPL_VAR in a jquery statement? 17:03 jwagner $("#moresearches").prepend("<a href=\'http://worldcat.org/search?q=\<\!\-\- TMPL_VAR NAME=\"title\" \-\-\>\\' target=\"_blank\">Worldcat</a> <span class='pipe'> | "); 17:03 rangi nengard and wizzyrea_ you know that hudson is building all the pds now eh? 17:04 nengard i knew that 17:04 jwagner shows up but is trying to literally send TMPL_VAR_NAME instead of the contents 17:04 nengard i just don't know where it's storing them for linking 17:04 wizzyrea_ i knew you were going to do that, I don't think.. what she said 17:04 oleonard jwagner: TMPL vars are processed on the server side, jquery is processed on the client side 17:04 jwagner So it's not possible :-( 17:04 nengard wizzyrea :) 17:04 wizzyrea_ ;) 17:05 rangi http://download.koha-community.org/manual_pdf/ 17:05 wizzyrea_ woot okies ty 17:05 nengard which is that? 17:05 jcamins Lunch time! 17:05 nengard sorry 17:05 nengard ignore me 17:05 wizzyrea_ will change the links 17:05 wizzyrea_ hudson++ 17:05 wizzyrea_ rangi++ 17:06 wizzyrea_ oh now we're going to have to combine our karmas :P 17:06 nengard wizzyrea rangi can we automate the html generation that way? 17:06 nengard now the pdf is newer than the html :) 17:06 nengard and i agrree 17:06 nengard rangi++ 17:06 rangi not really 17:06 wizzyrea_ ok, back in the dizzle you told me that weekly was often enough 17:06 rangi cos the html is stuck straight into wordpress 17:06 wizzyrea_ yep 17:06 nengard wizzyrea - yes I did - but i thought I'd check 17:07 nengard and i don't think it's updating weekly 17:07 nengard rangi if it wasn't in WP could we do it? 17:07 wizzyrea_ you have all the stuff you need to do it yourself, or jared does anyway. 17:08 nengard rangi the pdf is missing images - wizzyrea had done something special to get them to work 17:08 nengard wizzyrea, i know, but if hudson can do it that would be awesome - right? 17:08 nengard that's all I was asking 17:08 wizzyrea_ I don't have an opinion on the matter really 17:09 rangi hudson cant do much more 17:09 indradg good evening folks 17:09 rangi im about out of space on my linnode 17:09 rangi unless someone wants to give me money to buy more space 17:10 nengard k 17:11 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch build #5: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch/5/ 17:11 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add keyboard shortcuts 17:17 pastebot0 "rangi" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "building pdf" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/131 17:18 wizzyrea_ yea that's what I'm using 17:18 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #52: SUCCESS in 18 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/52/ 17:18 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add keyboard shortcuts 17:18 wizzyrea_ (but I'm double checking) 17:21 wizzyrea_ yes, def what I'm using 17:22 jcamins I'm working on the manual stuff. 17:23 jcamins It's a kind of slow process since DocBook really wasn't designed with attractive output in mind. ;) 17:24 wizzyrea_ ^^ 17:26 jcamins And DSSSL (or however many 'S's there are) was designed to crush the hope of youth and replace it with the cynicism of... 17:26 jcamins something very cynical. 17:26 jcamins :) 17:32 nengard identify 17:35 indradg nengard, back from lunch? :) 17:36 nengard yes 17:38 jcamins Who set up debian.koha-community.org? 17:39 rangi what part of it? 17:40 jcamins The header. 17:40 jcamins That makes it match the rest of the website. 17:40 gmcharlt jcamins: IIRC, I did 17:40 gmcharlt in any event, rangi and I can change it 17:40 jcamins gmcharlt: ah. Ummm… how? 17:40 jcamins No, I like it. I wanted to steal whatever you did for the manual. 17:41 gmcharlt jcamins: sure, one sec 17:45 pastebot0 "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "for jcamins" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/132 17:46 jcamins gmcharlt: thanks! 17:47 slef I just got a lot of updatedatabase errors upgrading from 3.0 to 3.2 - is that a known problem? 17:50 atz so *this* is where you've been hiding out, eh? 17:50 wizzyrea_ we were hiding from you 17:50 wizzyrea_ j/k <3 17:50 oleonard No one can elude atz forever 17:51 slef yeah, hiding by announcing it on lists, identi.ca, twitter, ... 17:51 slef we should have linked to an AFF site in the announcement. Then more people would pay attention to it. 17:51 atz slef: uh, joking, dude. 17:52 slef atz: ditto 17:53 slef Other odd thing during upgrade: the web installer noted "The Locale::Currency::Format package is not installed on your system or not found in @INC." but that's not in Makefile.PL 17:54 slef I'll go search bugs and report if not. 17:55 slef Locale::Currency::Format notice not a known bug 17:57 slef updatedatabase.pl errors not a known bug 17:57 slef bbi30 18:06 rangi does Makefile.PL not use the same dependencies file as the the web installer 18:08 gmcharlt rangi: it's all routed through C4::Installer::PerlModule nowadays 18:08 rangi right, so should be the same eh? 18:08 gmcharlt right 18:09 rangi bbiab 18:10 slef see $DBversion = '3.01.00.119' in updatedatabase.pl 18:10 slef it's a handcoded notice 18:11 slef lines 3498- 18:12 slef git blames chris_n 18:12 slef chris_n: is there a reason for that to be in updatedatabase.pl not Makefile.PL? 18:13 gmcharlt slef: I think that might predate C4::I::PerlModule 18:13 slef biab 18:13 gmcharlt nowadays answer is probably to chnage updatedatabase.pl to run a module check whenever it runs and report back 18:16 cait hi all 18:19 * jcamins waves to cait 18:19 * cait waves to jcamins :) 18:29 indradg hi cait 18:33 wizzyrea_ sekjal++ for fixing the on order bug 18:36 jcamins Uh-oh. VirtualBox just committed suicide. 18:36 jcamins Let's try a restart. 18:37 wizzyrea_ hey liw :) 18:37 * liw waves 18:40 rangi You found us liw :) 18:41 cait hi liw 18:43 rangi cait: did the yui change work for u? 18:49 cait rangi: sorry, got home late, still eating my dinner 18:49 cait will try to test later 18:49 jcamins_irssi Apparently VirtualBox isn't ACPI-compliant. 18:49 rangi That's cool 18:52 slef gmcharlt: it doesn't predate Makefile.PL. I wonder why it's in updatedatabase.pl instead, or if it's a mistake. 18:52 gmcharlt slef: I think it was just an effort to make sure that users didn't miss a dependency that would break overdue notices if not installed 19:02 slef gmcharlt: oh, I see, dependencies are no longer in Makefile.PL in 3.2 19:02 gmcharlt slef: right 19:03 slef I wonder why that one didn't build on my first attempt, though :-/ 19:03 slef can someone remind me how to rerun the dependency check, please? 19:03 slef I don't want to do the whole Q+A again. 19:04 gmcharlt slef: koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u 19:04 gmcharlt to identify missing deps as well as those requiring an upgrade 19:05 slef Are we sure that the version numbers are required? 19:05 slef There's some there which are in debian stable but an earlier version 19:06 gmcharlt slef: hard to say; some may just be the versions that the original dev who added a module was using at the time 19:06 gmcharlt other (particularly Encode) represent real minimums 19:06 slef gmcharlt: IOW no, we're not sure. 19:07 gmcharlt not without trawling through the commit logs and/or testing 19:32 indradg hdl, hi 19:32 hdl hi indradg 19:32 * chris_n crawls out of the wood work to take the blame for whatever 19:33 cait oh, so it was you? 19:33 hdl whatever what ? 19:33 gmcharlt chris_n: I blame your contributing entirely too much good code to Koha 19:33 chris_n oh, anything you'd like someone to blame something on 19:33 gmcharlt s/your/you for/ 19:34 * chris_n is feeling pretty resilient atm 19:34 * cait blames chris_n for not having finished the clone and timemachine modules ;) 19:34 chris_n slef: gmcharlt was correct... that was an attempt to hold up a large flag 19:35 cait hi nengard 19:35 nengard hiya 19:35 jcamins_irssi chris_n: if I blame you for my VirtualBox dying, will you tell me how to fix it? 19:36 chris_n jcamins_irssi: no... my blame-taking mode is write only... ;-) 19:36 jcamins_irssi Ah well. 19:36 jcamins_irssi It was worth a try. 19:39 jcamins_irssi nengard: you were saying you wanted a video of someone setting up a testing environment. 19:40 jcamins_irssi Well, looks like I have to start over from scratch. 19:40 jcamins_irssi How do you do your instructional videos? 19:41 cait chris: my yuipatch was included with koha all the time 19:41 cait rangi:...see above 19:42 rangi ? 19:42 rangi cait: chris hall has just arrived, will you have 10 mins to have a chat with him if i get him on here? 19:42 cait (19:46:43) rangi: cait: did the yui change work for u? 19:42 cait sure 19:42 rangi cool 19:43 cait he wrote on the wiki I should try if this setting makes the problems go away - but I already had the local files while testing 19:43 cait could change to from Yahoo's own servers if he wants me to 19:44 cait hi chrisdothall :) 19:44 chrisdothall hey cait :) 19:45 nengard jcamins there are lots of tools - i use screenflow 19:45 cait you suggested changing the yuipath to local - I checked my database - already had that setting 19:45 cait want me to change to ' from Yahoo's own servers?' 19:45 chrisdothall cait: awesome. Local is perfect. Some of your bugs I can't seem to duplicate locally. 19:46 jcamins_irssi rangi: sekjal: someone mentioned a live-testing environment. How do you envision that working? Bootable CD? OVF? 19:46 rangi who what where? 19:46 rangi live-testing as in? 19:46 cait I think we are confusing rangi :) 19:46 cait chrisdothall: which one? 19:47 sekjal I'd like to have a Koha .iso that folks can download, spin up, and git-pull the latest patches for testing 19:47 jcamins_irssi rangi: like, you have a live CD for testing Koha. 19:47 jcamins_irssi Or an OVF. 19:47 rangi ahh 19:47 jcamins_irssi Okay, sekjal says live CD. 19:47 jcamins_irssi That's easy. 19:47 chrisdothall cait: for example: admin/preferences pop up box. I have both the pop up box as well as the black box at the bottom that brings up the gray area full of messages. 19:47 jcamins_irssi I mean, I have no idea how to make a live CD, but getting the answer was easy. 19:47 cait chrisdothall: have created a new branch from catalyst now to get recent changes - is there a specific one? I have some time to retest 19:48 gmcharlt that could be closer than you might think - debian live CD modified to add Koha's deb apt repo + some tweaks have dev-mode install as a packaged option 19:48 chrisdothall cait: template_test is still the most 'up to data' as far as the conversion goes 19:48 chrisdothall sorry, up to date not data. 19:48 cait yep, I have that one 19:48 jcamins_irssi gmcharlt: I'd think we'd need something that included X, though, if people might be booting off the disk. 19:48 cait changed the yuisystempreference - got the box 19:48 cait let me check something 19:49 gmcharlt not *quite* full packaged, as it it would still require somebody to do an apt-get koha-dev first, but such a thing would be easy to maintain 19:49 rangi yeah 19:49 cait chrisdothall: grr. now it works. I will delete the line from the wiki 19:50 cait not sure what happened yesterday, perhaps a special constellation of things 19:50 chrisdothall cait: haha that is actually good news :) 19:51 rangi chris_n: im not sure you want to pull 3881 to 3.2.x 19:51 rangi chris_n: its a new feature (the privacy bit was taken out befor the 3.2.0 release) 19:51 cait chrisdothall: is there more? :) 19:51 rangi @seen chris_n 19:51 huginn rangi: chris_n was last seen in #koha 15 minutes and 27 seconds ago: <chris_n> jcamins_irssi: no... my blame-taking mode is write only... ;-) 19:51 chrisdothall cait: could you also please check catalogue/search 'fewer options' and 'more options' having no effect 19:51 cait how do you hm strike(?) something in mediawiki? 19:52 rangi <del></del> or <strike> 19:52 rangi one of those anyway 19:52 cait did a <strike> 19:53 cait chrisdothall: no change for adv search 19:53 cait problems still stand - the OR groups thing and the more/fewer options 19:53 cait it changes from more to fewer and back, but i get no boolean values 19:54 cait and the search index list is the same for both settings 19:54 jcamins_irssi gmcharlt: wouldn't it be better to use git? 19:54 chrisdothall cait: the only change I see when using fewer/more is the "limits" section appearing/disappearing 19:55 cait yes, there should be more 19:55 cait and/or/not and an option to duplicate the search fields should show up 19:55 gmcharlt jcamins_irssi: you could, but since there's nothing special about the layout of a git repo, you could just as easily make a debian package that includes a local copy of the repo 19:55 chrisdothall cait: awesome thanks cait :) 19:55 jcamins_irssi gmcharlt: oh, that makes sense. 19:56 cait the pup date limit disappears/appears 19:56 gmcharlt after package configuration tweaks a couple settings in .gitconfig, user can then do a git fetch to update 19:56 chrisdothall cait: the yuipath setting should/could have affected your other entries concerning any menus / buttons. 19:57 cait it's still the same as yesterday 19:57 cait but I will check the toolbar for borrowers 19:59 cait yui local: still no toolbar 19:59 chrisdothall cait: thanks :) 19:59 cait np :) 19:59 cait most toolbars work, so I think it's not a general problem 19:59 cait perhaps a template problem in borrowers 20:00 chrisdothall cait: sadly its highly likely 20:01 cait yeah, the borrower templates... are not the best 20:01 cait see lots of problems there 20:01 moodaepo @wunder 56001 20:01 huginn moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -11.0�C (2:04 PM CST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 PM CST this evening... 20:03 cait chrisdothall: tried "from Yahoo" - no change for borrower account 20:03 chrisdothall cait: the date picker problem for tools/viewlog is also appearing elsewhere. Thanks again for this :) 20:04 chrisdothall cait: for the yuipath, I beleive the "from yahoo" setting is broken (on yahoos end) so the local ones *should* be the best for every test. 20:04 cait chrisdothall: was not sure if it's a general problem so noted the pages where i tried it 20:04 cait ok, I have reset it to local 20:05 cait can you take a look at the patron search? 20:05 cait I think it's a "translation" problem 20:05 cait the comma in the value should actually be a , 20:05 chrisdothall cait: is something of the form a,b becomming acommab? 20:06 cait yep 20:06 cait checked in master too, it's , there 20:07 chrisdothall cait: yea thats a problem caused by my conversion script. was looking at this section suspiciously yesterday, suspicion confirmed :) 20:07 cait hehe 20:07 cait ok 20:07 cait let me know if you want me to test something, send a screenshot whatever 20:07 cait you can also write me a mail 20:08 chrisdothall cait: I should be able to get the comma thing fixed in a few minutes if you have time now? 20:09 cait I will be around for another 30 minutes I think 20:09 wizzyrea_ @wunder lawrence, ks 20:09 huginn wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -8.7�C (2:12 PM CST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). Blizzard Warning in effect until 6 am CST Wednesday... 20:10 wizzyrea_ uh, if that's light freezing fog then I don't know what snow looks like 20:10 oleonard @wunder 45701 20:10 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 4.0�C (2:55 PM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). 20:11 oleonard http://nnvl.noaa.gov/MediaDetail.php?MediaID=640&MediaTypeID=1&sms_ss=twitter&at_xt=4d4859aadf12521d,0 20:11 chrisdothall cait: just pushed the fixed templates to template_test now 20:11 chrisdothall cait: with the comma problem fixed (hopefully :p ) 20:11 cait ok, git fetch git rebase catalyst/template_test - right? 20:12 chrisdothall cait: awesome works 20:12 cait hm? 20:13 chrisdothall cait: sorry, that will work fine :) 20:13 hudsonbot Starting build 94 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:13 cait yep 20:13 cait works :) 20:13 chrisdothall cait: comma problem gone? 20:14 cait ype 20:14 cait yep 20:14 chrisdothall cait: awesome, thanks again :) 20:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to 3.02.03.001 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ab83557b562c3672b90acc6938e6f9c6d66dc4e> / Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=050b55f2ab1b2f65a9ce903d31d22cce8208b849> / Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko 20:15 cait you are welcome 20:16 oleonard I just tried checking out template_test and I can't even log in 20:16 oleonard Can't locate Template.pm in @INC 20:16 wizzyrea_ hi brooke 20:16 Brooke_ ahoy hoy 20:16 cait ah 20:16 rangi yeah apt-get install libtemplate-perl 20:16 cait yeah, got that too 20:16 cait was about to look up the package name from my wiki :) 20:17 oleonard Something to add to the template toolkit test page on the wiki? 20:17 cait and plz - can someone fix the language detection? 20:17 cait I noted it on the wiki 20:17 chrisdothall oleonard: will do :) 20:17 cait if you have another language in your browser settings it breaks everything 20:17 chrisdothall cait: is this for template_test? 20:18 cait it's a general problem but extra annoying if you try to test the templates 20:18 chrisdothall cait: bug 3754? 20:18 cait because the translated templates don't work there 20:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3754 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED, Language detection doesn't take really care of syspref 20:18 cait yes 20:18 rangi i thought i did htat? 20:18 cait rangi: you didn#t tell me 20:18 rangi maybe i never sent a patch 20:18 cait I can test it quite easily though 20:19 rangi my idea was just take the browser detection bit right out 20:19 cait I remember no patch for master or 3.2.x - not sure about the template branch 20:19 rangi it was good in theory, but in practice, its just annoying 20:19 cait rangi: I am with you 20:19 rangi just let the user choose 20:19 cait yeah 20:20 cait the problem is, it takes all installed languages into account 20:20 cait not the languages marked in the sys prefs 20:20 rangi yup 20:20 rangi and overrides what the library have decided 20:20 cait so if you have installed templates for an older version and updated your system without updating those templates... 20:20 cait yeah, better take it out 20:21 rangi right, if chrisdothall has time, ill get him to take a look at that, its a fairly simple 3 or 2 line change iirc 20:22 cait rangi: hm! 20:22 cait it seems fixed on template-test 20:22 rangi ah ha 20:22 rangi i knew i did it somewhere ;) 20:23 oleonard Anything in particular that needs to be tested? 20:23 cait rangi: will this go into master and others too? should I test there again? 20:23 Brooke_ yeah rangi has some bad memory cells what need locating ;) 20:24 rangi cait: it will go in with the template work, i probably wont get round to putting it in master before then 20:24 cait will probably postpone testing to tomorrow though - because I want to go to bed ;) 20:24 rangi oleonard: do you see the table at the bottom? 20:24 oleonard Oh man the markup-parsing center of my brain is going to need a complete re-write! 20:24 cait oleonard: perhaps you could look at borrowers and the datepicker 20:24 cait borrowers account page is quite messy 20:25 rangi oleonard: yeah, you'll find its a lot easier to spot what are comments and what are template tags now :) 20:25 oleonard (not to mention the markup-parsing center of my HTML editor) 20:25 chrisdothall oleonard: its worth it though, I promise, much nicer syntax :) 20:25 * oleonard made it through <TMPL> to <!-- TMPL -->, should be able to manage 20:26 * Brooke_ cheers at oleonard 20:27 cait rangi: that's ok - good to know it will go away 20:28 Brooke_ oh dear gods, that evil woman has posted evil things on her blog again. *sigh* 20:28 Brooke_ http://lesttheybelost.blogspot.com/ 20:30 cait hehe 20:30 rangi i like this site 20:30 cait I really like the evil woman's fudge recipe 20:30 rangi https://katalog.irb.hr/ 20:30 gmcharlt Brooke_: LOCKRS 20:31 cait nice opac 20:32 oleonard Chrome says it's Croatian? 20:32 Brooke_ looks like BiH 20:33 cait oh, I had guessed hungary 20:33 cait but it's croatia, you are right 20:33 gmcharlt cait: Hrvatska 20:33 nengard am i reading the commit messages right - maxItemsInSearchResults was added back to 3.4 but not 3.2? 20:34 cait time to sleep, lots of work tomorrow 20:34 cait bye all :) 20:35 Brooke_ night 20:35 nengard and does that pref effect the opac and staff client or just one? 20:36 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #94: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/94/ 20:36 hudsonbot * Reed Wade: Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers 20:36 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 20:36 hudsonbot * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.03.001 20:36 sekjal nengard: maxItemsInSearchResults is definitely staff client... may be OPAC 20:36 nengard thanks 20:36 sekjal but that could be another mechanism 20:45 hudsonbot Starting build 53 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:51 gmcharlt @wunder YYZ 20:51 huginn gmcharlt: The current temperature in Toronto Pearson, Ontario is -8.0�C (3:46 PM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: (Falling). 20:51 gmcharlt *sigh* 20:53 rangi @wunder wellington nz 20:53 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). 20:55 darling hello people 20:56 rangi hi darling 20:56 darling we might want to put a more easy to see news item on the web site re the irc change 20:57 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #53: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/53/ 20:57 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add maxItemsInSearchResults preference 20:57 rangi yup, we were just waiting to see if it stuck first 20:58 rangi no one has spazzed out yet, so id say that it has 21:10 gmcharlt I see that the Katipo IRC server just came back 21:10 gmcharlt I'm going to change its topic 21:10 gmcharlt actually, never mind, don't have op there 21:10 gmcharlt alohalog the bot does 21:11 rangi wasab1: can you fix? 21:15 hudsonbot Starting build 54 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:26 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #54: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/54/ 21:26 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add shelf browser preferences 21:30 hudsonbot Starting build 55 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:32 * Brooke_ waves to mr. adara 21:32 gbengaadara Hello 21:33 gbengaadara Trying to get prepared for the meeting in some hours time 21:34 rangi 12 hours time :) 21:39 Ahmuck rangi: space for what? 21:39 rangi eh? 21:40 Ahmuck linode space 21:40 Ahmuck need more space for what? 21:41 rangi brb 21:41 rangi meeting 21:41 Ahmuck kk, i'll be back in about 1.5 hours 21:42 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #55: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/55/ 21:42 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: update opac renewal image now that you can select multiples 21:50 slef chris_n: on the one hand, it worked. On the other, having it buried in amongst updatedatabase output isn't going to be much of a big flag to most people who upgrade koha. 21:59 rangi Ahmuck: back, my linode runs bugs. paste. download. and hudson. ... it needs more disk if we want it to do much more 22:00 rangi http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/feb/01/alexandria-youth-protecting-library 22:00 rangi for those who havent seen it yet 22:00 ibeardslee that is just amazing 22:01 Brooke_ that's awesome 22:01 ibeardslee sadly no-one did that when Baghdad 'fell' 22:01 * Brooke_ volunteered to go to Iraq to protect their Library for internship credit, but her Library School was having none of it 22:01 ibeardslee massive looting in their mueseum 22:01 rangi yeah :( 22:04 Brooke_ some of it will turn up again years later 22:04 Brooke_ shouldn't have to hold out that sort of hope 22:05 ibeardslee and some will stay in the hands of private collectors or be destroyed by people how wonder of a second about the junk their relative collected as they biff stuff into the skip 22:08 ibeardslee and now onto something koha related .. 22:08 rangi there are koha libraries in egypt 22:08 rangi 2 in cairo i think 22:08 ibeardslee if I have books, dvds and Cds in my personal koha instance 22:08 Brooke_ oh dear 22:08 * Brooke_ smells a cataloguing question 22:09 Brooke_ Bob! 22:09 BobB Hi Brooke ! 22:10 ibeardslee can (as an example) Sting (as an author) show as the author of his book of poems, the 'author' of this CDs and as the actor in (eg Dune)? 22:11 * rangi passes 22:12 rangi you get those kinda answers wrong 22:12 Brooke_ it should if they're catalogued properly 22:12 rangi and cataloguing valkyries ride in and stab you 22:12 Brooke_ it's shooting by the gay cataloguing mafia that is the more immediate danger 22:12 Brooke_ the valyries are rarer. 22:12 Brooke_ valkyries even 22:12 wizzyrea_ there are cataloguing valkyries?! 22:13 rangi im my version of the world there are 22:13 Brooke_ shhh you'll provoke them 22:13 * wizzyrea_ gulps 22:13 Brooke_ anyhoo 22:13 Brooke_ you needs be sure that they all have Sting as an access point 22:14 Brooke_ and if you've tagging active 22:14 Brooke_ you can always double down and make sure it's tagged on top of that 22:14 Brooke_ this is the sort of thing that DC would make very easy by it's creator dohickey 22:14 Brooke_ its 22:15 Brooke_ oof 22:15 wasab1 rangi: will fix katipo irc in a tic 22:15 rangi danke 22:15 Brooke_ does that sufficiently answer your question, or would you like me to take a closer look via email or summat? 22:16 ibeardslee It seems possible .. rather than a straight 'NO' 22:19 jcamins_irssi If a record is failing to display in XSLT.pm, that means that the marcxml field is corrupt, correct? 22:20 jcamins_irssi (biblioitems.marcxml) 22:20 wasab1 rangi: ops granted katipo irc…. 22:20 gmcharlt jcamins_irssi: maybe, maybe not; is there anything in the log? 22:21 gmcharlt wasab1: thanks 22:21 jcamins_irssi I'm looking now. 22:24 jcamins_irssi I don't know. 22:25 gmcharlt wasab1: looks like you need to do it again, the katipo IRC server just bounced 22:27 rangi russ got ops that time, he'll op ppl when he gets a chance 22:29 wasab1 cheers 22:33 hdl good night 22:36 Brooke_ good night! 22:36 Brooke_ sleep well 22:55 Brooke_ surely someone has a choice stopped image of Mr. Poulain doing the haka... 22:59 rangi psst 22:59 rangi a haka 22:59 rangi pet peeve, there isnt only one :) 22:59 Brooke_ okay fine 22:59 Brooke_ I will be more specific 23:00 Brooke_ does anyone have a picture of Paul doing the *wrong* haka? 23:00 wizzyrea_ rofl 23:00 rangi it is the wrong one actually :) 23:00 Brooke_ I realise that :) 23:00 Brooke_ if they weren't so camera happy, I'd have played with the poi 23:02 wizzyrea_ lordie this snow is outrageous 23:02 rangi you better be taking photos 23:03 wizzyrea_ I just took a video, but the snow flakes are so small that they don't really show 23:03 rangi do time lapse stuff 23:03 wizzyrea_ good point 23:03 Brooke_ uh oh 23:03 Brooke_ not small ones 23:03 Brooke_ they have beady little eyes and accumulate 23:04 wizzyrea_ there's a 3 foot drift by my front door 23:04 Brooke_ not like those big threatening fluffy things that get all blown out in like 5 minutes 23:15 jcamins_irssi Anyone have any thoughts on how a record which included a field with no subfields could get into Koha? 23:15 jcamins_irssi bulkmarcimport.pl won't import it. 23:15 jcamins_irssi Sensibly. 23:17 wizzyrea_ Brooke_: I love snow :) 23:18 Brooke_ go live next door to Magnus then ;) 23:18 * Brooke_ vastly prefers Polynesia. 23:20 jcamins_irssi Theory: what if you created a record using a framework that allowed you to put data into 655$9, and you didn't put anything in any other subfield of 655, then you changed the framework? 23:24 Brooke_ almost chow time