Time  Nick        Message
23:20 chris       magnus aces it
23:20 chris       http://www.librarytechnology.org/survey-2010-product-report.pl?CurrentILS=Koha+--+Libriotech
22:55 chris       havent read it yet
22:55 chris       http://www.librarytechnology.org/perceptions2010.pl
22:24 chris       http://www.califa.org/edgylibrarian.php
22:24 chris       so the web seminar thingy is nearly finished
22:23 wizzyrea    2:25
22:23 wizzyrea    it'll be... 2pm
22:23 wizzyrea    be safe sekjal
22:22 ibeardsle   http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=137
22:06 chris       what time is it in california?
21:57 hdl         good time
21:57 sekjal      goodnight, #koha
21:57 sekjal      alrighty, time to brave the ice and snow
21:46 cait        reading time -bye all!
21:43 druthb      sheep detective.     that's different.
21:43 cait        first volume is: http://www.amazon.com/Three-Bags-Full-Sheep-Detective/dp/0767927052/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1
21:43 cait        can't find my book in english on amazon - it's a sheep thriller
21:42 cait        scary
21:41 chris       cait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ecg5P0u7Bo
21:38 jwagner     baaaaaa
21:38 cait        hm good plan, I have a book about sheep to read
21:37 jwagner     G'night all.
21:37 * jwagner   decides to hang it up for the day....
21:32 * druthb    gets out the first-aid kit for cait
21:31 cait        who gives you...
21:31 munin       cait: Error: "it's" is not a valid command.
21:31 cait        munin: it's not nice to shoot the person that gives you cookies!
21:31 cait        :(
21:31 * munin     reloads and spins the chambers.
21:31 cait        @roulette
21:21 chris       heh
21:21 munin       druthb: *click*
21:21 druthb      @roulette
21:21 hdl         being virtually killed is not really exciting ;)
21:20 chris       you are safe hdl .. buy a lottery ticket :-)
21:19 munin       hdl: *click*
21:19 hdl         @roulette
20:42 cait        :)
20:41 Brooke      tschuss
20:41 * owen_     is now an unwitting neighbor to himself.
20:40 jwagner     owen, that's unneighborly of you!
20:39 owen        I've known some people who lived next door, but I've never lived there myself.
20:38 sekjal      some absolutely wicked looking icicles hanging right above it all, too... next door is a perilous place to live, apparently
20:37 chris       yikes
20:35 sekjal      glad no one was under it when it went
20:35 sekjal      hmm, the snow and ice have ripped down the neighbours' awning
20:32 chris       i like it
20:32 chris       Brooke++
20:32 Brooke      can't shoot Cait.
20:32 Brooke      :)
20:32 munin       cait: *click*
20:32 cait        @roulette
20:30 munin       Brooke: Error: "said" is not a valid command.
20:30 Brooke      munin said it's fine.
20:30 munin       Brooke: *click*
20:30 Brooke      @roulette
20:30 ibot        i already had it that way, munin.
20:30 munin       Brooke: Error: "munin" is not a valid command.
20:30 Brooke      @munin roulette
20:29 druthb      too late!
20:29 Brooke      I gots no excuse.
20:29 Brooke      yeah I shoulda
20:29 chris       http://paste.koha-community.org/
20:29 chris       psst use the paste bot
20:28 Brooke      While financial support is a fine fuel for development, alternatives are present. Professionals are paid in coin; artisans derive satisfaction from the work itself.
20:28 Brooke      We pride ourselves on pairing high quality craftsmanship with unmatched accessibility. In the words of MJ Ray "The professionals have really messed stuff up for the artisans."
20:28 Brooke      Call things as you see them. Constructive criticism is the fuel of innovation. Respecting another's mana and keeping discourse welcoming to newcomers is the lifeblood of the project.
20:28 Brooke      We build upon the work of the past, while seeking innovative twists. We aren't afraid to break from the pack if it means a better product for our users and their patrons.
20:28 Brooke      There exists a white space of balance between the black of the developers and the red of the librarians. The pattern is harmonious and code absent all three is devoid of meaning.
20:28 Brooke      The community is larger than any individual or any vendor. We are related and intertwined. Enthusiasm and fun nourish the project.
20:28 Brooke      As with any culture, understanding Koha etiquette takes time, effort, and practice. If you are unsure about your conduct, seek out the Kaitiaki.
20:28 Brooke      Koha Tikanga
20:28 Brooke      moon over my spammy!
20:17 cait        :)
20:17 cait        hehe thx
20:14 * jwagner   hands cait a cup of hot cocoa to go with it
20:13 * Brooke    hands cait a cookie.
20:13 Brooke      awww
20:12 cait        crazy day, will read a bit later and thx :)
20:12 cait        ok :)
20:11 jwagner     No, you don't have to do anything -- just letting you know it's there.
20:11 munin       druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 0.1�C (3:10 PM EST on January 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Falling).
20:11 druthb      @wunder 20852
20:11 * cait      hides
20:11 jwagner     What we were talking about yesterday.
20:11 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5664 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Bug with memberofinstitution and creating Organizational patrons
20:11 jwagner     cait, since you've appeared :-) -- Bug 5664
20:11 munin       cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0�C (9:00 PM CET on January 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
20:11 cait        @wunder Konstanz
19:56 * Brooke    shivers just thinking about Alberta during this time of year.
19:53 Brooke      tee hee
19:52 gmcharlt    Brooke: how do you know that he didn't? ;)
19:52 owen        :D
19:51 chris       http://twitter.com/#!/ibeardslee/status/30701260151721984
19:51 chris       good retweet from ibeardsle this morning
19:50 chris       it is :)
19:50 owen        Nice to see mbreeding tweet about a #koha library that's real #koha.
19:50 chris       he missed his chance in october ;)
19:50 chris       he'll have to wait until ALA
19:50 * druthb    tries to picture that, and, thankfully, fails.
19:49 * Brooke    ducks.
19:49 Brooke      gmcharlt, don't beat chris unless he asks nicely.
19:42 * chris     has enough domains .. it would be cool to see that one used tho
19:42 gmcharlt    chris: heh
19:42 chris       :)
19:42 chris       there you go
19:42 chris       ill have it
19:42 * gmcharlt  is just waiting for somebody to ask for mylibrary.kohacatalog.com literally
19:41 owen        (especially given the track record of other similar assurances)
19:41 owen        Much better than the verbal assurances Josh gave years ago about *.kohalibrary.com
19:41 owen        Awesome gmcharlt, I hadn't seen that before.
19:40 chris       oh gmcharlt beat me
19:40 chris       they have a good policy
19:40 gmcharlt    owen: and thanks
19:40 gmcharlt    owen: see http://kohacatalog.com/ for statement
19:40 ibeardsle   Equinox Software Inc
19:39 cait        what says whois?
19:39 owen        Who owns ".kohacatalog.com" ?
19:39 hdl         good evening
19:38 owen        congrats on the new Koha libraries gmcharlt
19:36 Brooke      kia ora
19:36 chris       http://www.esilibrary.com/esi/newsitem.php?id=141
19:36 chris       ohh this freaking rocks
19:31 chris       not recently no sekjal
19:31 chris       back
19:25 gmcharlt    sekjal: three or four months ago
19:21 cait        never
19:21 sekjal      has anyone tried the bulk patron image uploader recently?
19:19 chris       OK my stop bbiab
19:16 cait        jcamins++
19:02 chris       I'm on the bus tho, so using my phone
19:02 indradg     :)
19:01 chris       For you, of course
19:01 indradg     chris, got a few mins?
19:01 nengard     np
19:01 chris       Thanks for the newsletter nengard
19:00 chris       Heya cait
19:00 munin       nengard: The current temperature in CWOP # AR939, Penndel, Pennsylvania is 0.7�C (2:02 PM EST on January 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Steady).
19:00 nengard     @wunder 19030
18:59 cait        hi ibeardsle
18:59 cait        hi druthb :)
18:59 cait        hi chris
18:59 ibeardsle   mmm morning coffee
18:58 chris       Its gotta be at least 17 now
18:57 munin       chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on January 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
18:57 chris       @wunder wellington, nz
18:57 * druthb    returns, well-fed
18:57 munin       chris: Error: No such location could be found.
18:57 chris       @wunder wellington
18:44 cait        but got a rfid reader for testing :)
18:44 cait        crazy day
18:44 cait        hi nengard++
18:43 nengard     koha newsletter published
18:42 cait        jcamins: around?
18:42 cait        hi #koha
18:00 chris       'argh, now i have to go put a cold cloth on my eye, upside i dont have to watch the rest of this crap'
18:00 chris       git stash apply
17:59 chris       maybe the next time i try to sit through a bad movie
17:59 chris       you never know
17:56 owen        I'd love to hear the story that demands its application!
17:56 chris_n     hehe
17:55 chris       there now i have an eye poke stashed for when i need it
17:55 chris       git stash
17:55 chris       git reset HEAD^
17:55 chris       in that case
17:55 chris_n     git revert last-mistake
17:55 munin       gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #120 added.
17:55 gmcharlt    @quote add <sekjal> I think time is less like a continuum, and more like a series of git commits
17:54 sekjal      I think time is less like a continuum, and more like a series of git commits
17:54 chris       fixed
17:54 gmcharlt    whatever you do, do NOT shake hands with yourself
17:54 chris       </NERD>
17:54 chris       you just need caps
17:54 chris       hehe
17:53 owen        Actually there isn't a </nerd> big enough to stop all my nerdiness.
17:53 gmcharlt    true, avoiding an explosion that destorys the universe on redelivery is an issue
17:53 owen        Assuming you're in an episode that allows travel back within your own timeline </nerd>
17:52 chris       hehe
17:51 gmcharlt    that's the problem with TARDISs - if you actually take delivery of one, you can get it to yourself earlier - but nobody has gotten to that point yet
17:51 sekjal      should arrive anywhere from 10 years ago to next century... hard to say
17:50 sekjal      chris:  my TARDIS is still on order
17:48 chris       morning, can someone go back in time to 5am when i woke up, and stop atarau from poking me in the eye?
17:39 paul_p      time to go back home for me. Some guests for dinner. Thanks for the constructive thread on koha-devel.
16:03 briceSanc   is there an update about this bug ? What was the initial code used to duplicate a budget ? Do i need to build a new code ?
16:02 munin       04Bug 4501: critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Duplicate budget broken
16:02 briceSanc   do you remember ? : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4501
16:02 briceSanc   hello all
15:13 wizzyrea    yes, that still happens afaik
15:07 sekjal      I remember something about an error where the make test tries to use the database before the database is created... not sure if/when that got solved
15:06 kmkale      no tables there
15:06 sekjal      hmmm
15:06 kmkale      sekjal: yes
15:06 sekjal      kmkale:  and you can log into your koha-dev database?
15:05 kmkale      sekjal: its unset presently. Fresh install
15:04 Nate        hello #koha!
15:02 sekjal      kmkale:  what's your PERL5LIB environment variable?
14:57 kmkale      is that normal?
14:57 kmkale      I am getting a bunch of "DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha-dev.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /home/kk/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 480." in make test.
14:50 kmkale      Anyone can give me a hint on this? ^ ^
14:49 pastebot    "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "make test errors" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/126
14:37 owen        paul_p: I would much prefer to be testing your stuff today, but other stuff is taking precedence.
14:37 owen        Sorry, no
14:37 paul_p      (owen: did I tell you I *really* appreciate the time you spend on our branches)
14:36 paul_p      owen, any timeline for those testings ?
14:36 jcamins     owen: I can confirm there's a bug, but I have no idea what it is.
14:36 owen        I do want to do more testing.
14:36 owen        paul_p: I haven't had time to work on that in a few days. I think that right now there isn't anything I'm waiting to hear from you about.
14:35 chris_n     seems there may be a needed enhancement lurking here somewhere
14:35 chris_n     jwagner: I think you are right there... I didn't think of that
14:35 jwagner     There are one or more bug reports on the pubyear search, aren't there?
14:34 owen        The advanced search on Publication Date (YYYY) is constructed differently than the OPAC's "Publication date range" search
14:33 jwagner     chris_n, will that work for overdues?  It's looking for the date the item is due, so doesn't it have to be run after midnight?
14:32 paul_p      (at least I don't know if I have something to do ;-) )
14:32 paul_p      owen, do you have a few minut to spend on #5575? your comment 23 does not clearly show wether there is something  to do still
14:32 jcamins     That dropdown has issues.
14:31 chris_n     hi paul_p
14:31 jcamins     Ohhh.
14:31 * chris_n   figures he will just setup the cronjob to calc overdues at the hour the library closes...
14:31 paul_p      hello american ppl !
14:31 hdl         chris_n: I don't think it is defined somewhere.
14:31 owen        jcamins: I'm trying an advanced search, choosing "Publication Date (yyyy)" from the dropdown
14:31 chris_n     :)
14:31 jwagner     chris_n, sorry, didn't read the "hours" part closely enough :-)
14:30 chris_n     hi hdl
14:30 hdl         hi all
14:30 chris_n     jwagner: yes, but this assumes the library is open from midnight to midnight
14:30 jcamins     Are you in the staff client and getting different results than the OPAC
14:29 jcamins     Yes.
14:29 owen        jcamins: What test did you try in our live catalog? Was it in the OPAC?
14:29 jcamins     Mis-cataloged?
14:29 jwagner     chris_n, Tools, Calendar
14:28 jcamins     Right.
14:28 jcamins     owen: oh.
14:28 owen        jcamins: I'm trying this in my test installation
14:26 chris_n     refresh my very short memory: where do we setup the library hours of operation?
14:26 jcamins_a   I just tried it in your catalog and it worked right.
14:26 owen        Honest :)
14:25 jcamins_a   owen: Really?
14:24 owen        In my search for "2010" the first hit I get is a 2008 record
14:22 sekjal      (from record.abs)
14:22 sekjal      owen:  pubyear:  008/7-10, indexed in year,word,num,sort indexes
14:20 owen        But the results are not limited to the year I'm searching
14:20 owen        The results page says "'yr,st-numeric:"
14:19 owen        Anyone know what Koha is doing when it searches "Publication Date (yyyy)" ?
14:19 kmkale      yippe on Ubuntu 11.04 I only had to install one perl module Locale::Currency::Format from CPAN. And Storable to get the required version :)
14:19 * owen      has a dev install, so I can't help
14:15 tcohen      it works as-is on a dev install, but not a standard one
14:15 tcohen      via OAI
14:15 tcohen      the problem arises on a 'standard' install, when trying to retreive records
14:14 owen        How can I confirm the bug on my own local installation
14:14 tcohen      owen: i don't get it
14:13 tcohen      on unpatched installs retreival fails and logs say a (wrong) path to the xsl file doesn't exist
14:13 owen        How do *I* test the bug?
14:13 owen        Let me rephrase that :)
14:12 tcohen      PKP Harvester on http://catalogo.biblio.unc.edu.ar
14:12 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4903 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, OAI doesn't work out of the box - XSL path
14:12 owen        tcohen: How do you test Bug 4903?
14:07 tcohen      i'll check it out
14:07 tcohen      perfect
14:07 owen        There's instructions on the wiki on how to sign off on a patch, but you need someone else to sign off on yours
14:06 tcohen      yeap
14:06 owen        tcohen here?
13:38 munin       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
13:38 jcamins     @later tell cait I'm looking at Marcel de Rooy's patch for bug 5622. A) It's really cool! B) if you added a test for leader19='c' for the "Set" label, would that meet your needs?
13:38 kmkale      :) wasabi good idea. Get them on #koha. Its the friendliest channel I know :)
13:37 wasabi      an always-on #irc channel of experts is something no other $ILS-VENDOR  could offer
13:36 kmkale      Yup. Wherever we go with granthalaya.org we try. VPM librarians help in training them.
13:35 wasabi      seriously, its a novel idea
13:34 wasabi      teach them to use irc, they can ask themselves :)
13:32 kmkale      I dont want to be the one telling the librarians this MARC stuff. They are supposed to tell me!! But here the public libraries are so under funded, they never have qualified staff.
13:32 wasabi      so you then know what zebra indexes are being searched
13:32 wasabi      you can see the query being built, and sent to zebra , etc
13:31 wasabi      kmkale:  if in doubt with searching, turn the debug up , and watch the log
13:30 jcamins     I'll be submitting a patch.
13:30 jcamins     There's a bug in the indexing.
13:30 jcamins     kmkale: just so you know, corporate name searches don't work properly at the moment.
13:28 wasabi      those 'power-user' options confuse patrons, so are hidden by default, i assume
13:28 kmkale      Good for them ( And me. Now I can tell them "You are supposed to know this!!" ;) )
13:27 wasabi      kmkale: not intuitively , but yes, understand
13:27 ebegin      (I would have to add an option in the advanced search, of course
13:27 gmcharlt    ebegin: in principle; I'd have to work out the details
13:26 ebegin      gmcharlt, I agree. Basically, it to remove the left truncation... Is this possible?
13:26 kmkale      i guess there is a reason why that kinda search is only there in staff interface. Library staff are suppoed to intuitively understand thye diference?
13:25 gmcharlt    ebegin: thanks for clarifying - that kind of search (start of phrase or heading) is a little different from the 'xam' example
13:24 ebegin      gmcharlt, and they doesn't want all document containing the word "reports"
13:24 druthb      g'morning, jcamins!
13:24 kmkale      good morning jcamins
13:24 jcamins     And, good morning.
13:24 jcamins     I can confirm that it makes a huge difference which x00 field is chosen.
13:24 wasabi      if in doubt, *i* would just choose one
13:23 druthb      catalogers spend a ton of time learning this stuff.  Incredible detail can go into those records.
13:23 kmkale      but then when in staff we search on personal name and name as phrase it s bit confusing IMHO
13:23 ebegin      gmcharlt, find all documents starting by "Reports" for instance
13:23 wasabi      lol, no
13:23 kmkale      oh
13:23 wasabi      kmkale: a cataloger knows which field to chose, 1xx or 6xx, etc
13:23 kmkale      so they just put the personal name in all fields 100, 400, 600, 700, 800?
13:23 druthb      The field to choose has to do with the relationship between the person named, and the item.  100, if the person is the primary author, 700, if they are an added or partial author...600, if the book is *about* them as a subject, and so on.
13:22 gmcharlt    ebegin: do you know what search the librarian is trying to do for real?
13:22 druthb      kmkale:  the type of item doesn't have much to do with it.  +
13:21 * gmcharlt  wonders about that - it's not like 'xam' has any linguistic meaning all by itself
13:21 kmkale      so for personal name the cataloguer has to choose which of the *00$a is right for the item type s/he is cataloguing is that it?
13:19 kmkale      its not doing it on my catalogue right now.
13:18 ebegin      kmkale, I think koha should find that 'xam' in example...
13:15 wasabi      wider
13:15 wasabi      http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=etc/zebradb/ccl.properties;h=e8f124bdd39c714d7f3845768238ba1a7fc60238;hb=HEAD#l533
13:14 wasabi      fields 100, 400, 600, 700, 800
13:14 wasabi      kmkale:  whew.. looks like a personal-name search is widered than just the 6xx stuff
13:12 wasabi      ebegin:  pass on that one
13:10 kmkale      ebegin: is there a way to search for middle part of a word? for example search for xam in 'example'? (does it even make sense to search like that?). I just had this query from a librarian :(
13:09 wasabi      most people dont realize they are ?only? searching the 6xx fields on a 'personal-name' search
13:08 kmkale      wasabi: MARC is confucing I think :)
13:07 ebegin      Is there a way to search without the left truncation in order to have a kind of "Search title starting with _____"
13:07 wasabi      kmkale:  its a confusing search, i think
13:06 ebegin      Getting hotter :)
13:06 kmkale      me too wasabi
13:06 munin       ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal / Dorval International, Que, Quebec is -6.0�C (7:00 AM EST on January 27, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
13:06 ebegin      @wunder montreal, quebec
13:06 kmkale      good morning ebegin
13:05 ebegin      good morning
13:05 wasabi      kmkale:  pass, im not really a cataloger  :/
13:05 kmkale      ;)
13:04 wasabi      lol, daily marc-wtf ;)
13:04 kmkale      humph!!
13:04 munin       kmkale: Personal name
13:04 kmkale      @marc 600 a
13:03 munin       kmkale: Personal name A surname and/or forename; letters, initials, abbreviations, phrases, or numbers used in place of a name; or a family name.
13:03 kmkale      @marc 100 a
13:03 wasabi      600 10 - SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--PERSONAL NAME Personal name Grant, Alexander
13:03 wasabi      http://head.kohaaloha.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=31
13:02 wasabi      search on 'gra'
13:02 wasabi      search for personal-name here http://head.kohaaloha.com
13:01 kmkale      thanks wasabi Will try it
13:00 wasabi      and works for me, on 3.2.3
12:59 wasabi      personal-name is 600$a in marc21
12:56 kmkale      I have author name in 100$a MARC21. In Staff client if I search a Author's name with Author as phrase I get results but If I search it with Personal Name I dont get any results. What is wrong?
12:47 wasabi      re: cronjobs
12:47 wasabi      read that 1st
12:46 wasabi      http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian
12:46 cirbirian   See you later
12:46 cirbirian   I go
12:46 cirbirian   reinstall then
12:46 wasabi      so concentrate on that 1st
12:46 cirbirian   ok
12:45 wasabi      and search successfully for the bib
12:45 wasabi      cirbirian: you shouldnt need to make *any* changes after a fresh install to create/import and bib
12:45 cirbirian   and I´ll be more careful
12:45 cirbirian   I think if I reinstall again I should not get that errors
12:44 kf          I think part of your problem sounds like indexing problems
12:44 jwagner     hi druthb and all
12:44 kf          and remove deleted titles from the index
12:44 kf          so you can search
12:44 kf          cirbirian: the cronjobs do the indexing
12:44 wasabi      and dev install
12:44 cirbirian   thanks
12:44 druthb      hi, jwagner
12:44 wasabi      choose zebra option
12:44 cirbirian   I´ll be back around 14:30 PM (in Spain)
12:43 cirbirian   friends I´ve to go to launch
12:43 wasabi      then a mysqldump backup...
12:43 cirbirian   nevermore
12:43 cirbirian   I promise I won´t delete any framework
12:43 cirbirian   ok
12:43 wasabi      yeah, def.
12:42 cirbirian   should I reinstall again Koha?
12:42 cirbirian   I´m lost :(
12:42 wasabi      then start fiddling
12:41 wasabi      take a backup, get the search working
12:41 wasabi      yeah, start the install again...
12:41 cirbirian   <kf> what is cronjobs?
12:41 cirbirian   I don´t use it
12:41 cirbirian   yes it´s keeped
12:40 kf          and you should always keep the default framework, even if you are not using it
12:40 cirbirian   for testing purposing
12:40 kf          cirbirian: are your cronjobs configured for reindexing?
12:40 cirbirian   koha is installed in a laptop
12:40 cirbirian   yes
12:39 cirbirian   the error log only show logs until 26 january
12:39 wasabi      start your testing on a system, before you change/break it
12:39 cirbirian   it´s strange
12:38 wasabi      yep, check that error log
12:38 cirbirian   I get the same 404 error
12:38 cirbirian   the book doesn´t appear in the search
12:37 cirbirian   because if I catalogue 1 book with the new and actived framework (FAST ADD FRAMEWORK)
12:37 cirbirian   i think the problem is bigger
12:37 wasabi      the one from your backup, before you did the framework change, etc...
12:37 cirbirian   but I deleted..
12:37 cirbirian   my I deleted the old framework
12:36 cirbirian   thanks to god I´m just trying
12:36 wasabi      you can test that by loading in your old frameworks,
12:36 cirbirian   so what can I do?
12:36 wasabi      yeah, probably ;)
12:35 cirbirian   I do not know if that has something to do with the error in the search
12:34 cirbirian   and deleted the one I created yesterday
12:34 cirbirian   today I installed the FAST ADD framework
12:34 cirbirian   with that framework
12:34 cirbirian   and catalogued 1 book
12:34 cirbirian   yesterday I created a framework
12:33 cirbirian   I´ve been playing with frameworks
12:33 nengard     hi kf
12:30 wasabi      cirbirian: check your apache error.log 1st, alwayzz
12:29 cirbirian   and when I try to make its search I get that error message
12:29 cirbirian   I´ve catalogued a book
12:29 cirbirian   Error 404
12:29 cirbirian   why when I try to make a search, the OPAC says: An Error has Occurred
12:28 kf          hi nengard and druthb :)
12:28 druthb      g'mornin.
12:28 cirbirian   hello people
12:27 nengard     hello from under the snow
12:00 Amit        heya Ropuch
12:00 Ropuch      Hello Amit
12:00 Ropuch      Hi kf [;
11:39 kf          hi Amit
11:39 Amit        heya kf
11:38 kf          wasabi, slef: sorry phone calls
11:38 kf          nice to see you!
11:38 kf          hi Ropuch :)
11:00 Ropuch      Hello #koha!
10:48 * chris     wanders off
10:48 chris       right bedtime, someone else can take over deleting spam
10:36 kmkale      And we will take good care of you. Send you back refreshed ;)
10:35 kmkale      no clash of dates there :)
10:34 chris       so might make sense to fly to kohacon from there, then home, of course then i will be away from the family for a while .. will have to figure it out
10:33 chris       http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/  <-- presenting here
10:32 kmkale      lets hope not
10:31 kmkale      KohaCon without chris?
10:31 chris       altho, i will be in vancouver
10:30 chris       for me anyway
10:30 kmkale      :)
10:30 chris       india wins  for the cheapest of the 3 to get to
10:29 chris       bout the same to the UK
10:27 chris       2,270
10:23 wasabi      its quite 'reddish' of color
10:22 wasabi      the pig has some bbq sauce on it?!?
10:22 wasabi      lol, ta :)
10:21 munin       chris: Quote #119: "<wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/blog/uploaded_images/IMG_6368_nepali_food.jpg" (added by wasabi at 10:22 AM, January 27, 2011)
10:21 chris       @quote get 119
10:21 munin       wasabi: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "119" in it.  Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin.
10:21 wasabi      @quote 119
10:20 wasabi      oooh, worked :)
10:20 wasabi      .
10:20 munin       wasabi: The operation succeeded.  Quote #119 added.
10:20 wasabi      @quote add <wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/blog/uploaded_images/IMG_6368_nepali_food.jpg
10:20 wasabi      me try!!
10:19 munin       slef: Error: "swine!" is not a valid command.
10:19 slef        munin: swine!
10:19 wasabi      *nod* nice point
10:19 munin       slef: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
10:19 slef        @quote add <wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/blog/uploaded_images/IMG_6368_nepali_food.jpg
10:19 wasabi      wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/blog/uploaded_images/IMG_6368_nepali_food.jpg
10:19 slef        wasabi: I think pleasure against needs is a different emphasis.
10:18 wasabi      nepali food, via google -> http://bit.ly/gXcu0a
10:16 wasabi      but basically the same thing, said in two ways ? :)
10:16 wasabi      egotistical is *only* concerned with self
10:15 wasabi      selfish is not concerned with others
10:15 wasabi      ah, yeah there is a diff
10:13 slef        kf: I think egoistic means self-pleasing (not in a bad way), whereas selfish means concerned with one's own needs (not necessarily in a bad way, but often is)
10:13 wasabi      hmm, they are pretty similar to me
10:12 kf          slef: can you explain the difference?
10:12 wasabi      i didnt twig to it :/
10:11 wasabi      and good spotting on the marc21/unimarc too
10:11 slef        wasabi: np
10:09 wasabi      slef:  yep, you are right there, sorry...
10:09 slef        kf: either way, thank you for your support :)
10:09 slef        kf: do you mean egoistic or selfish?
10:09 wasabi      lol, programmers...
10:08 slef        wasabi: well, randomly cheering a competing vendor while I'm here helping is a bit upsetting.
10:08 wasabi      no assumptions there :)
10:08 wasabi      i just said ," yay spain, yay xercode", thats all ….
10:07 wasabi      slef:  i didnt assume that before tho :)
10:06 wasabi      w0w, looks good!
10:06 wasabi      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_cuisine
10:05 slef        wasabi: oh yeah, for sure. But don't assume everyone in Spain buys from xercode or everyone in the US buys from ByWater... it upsets me ;-)
10:04 wasabi      ive no idea...
10:04 * wasabi    wonders what the vege-type food is like in nepal…
10:04 wasabi      all good.. nepal sounds *very* exciting too!!
10:03 kf          slef: I support uk - although it might be a little egoistic
10:03 kf          wasabi++
10:03 wasabi      well, and the weather updates too! , lol
10:02 wasabi      hey… thats why im'  'always-on' on #koha too ;)
10:02 wasabi      perhaps he's just a proactive problem solver, like the rest of us :)
10:01 slef        yeah, but it makes me wonder if their vendor is not supporting their clients
10:00 munin       wasabi: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
10:00 wasabi      wasabi++
10:00 wasabi      … regardless of who she/he works for/with
09:59 wasabi      hey… its still fine for a guy to come to #koha, as ask a Q tho...
09:58 slef        but hey, we're bidding for kohacon11, although I think Nepal may win
09:57 wasabi      ahh, click
09:57 cirbirian   see you later
09:56 slef        wasabi: we offered. Not taken up in the end.
09:56 wasabi      cool, cya cirbirian
09:56 wasabi      i really appreciated their guesture
09:56 cirbirian   but in 30-45 mins I´ll back again
09:56 cirbirian   friends, I´ve to go now
09:56 wasabi      im just a xercode fan, coz they donated to kohacon2010…. thats all.. :)
09:56 munin       slef: The current temperature in Almeria, Spain is 10.0�C (10:30 AM CET on January 27, 2011). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
09:56 slef        @wunder almeria, Spain
09:55 cirbirian   now it´s rainning a lot!
09:55 cirbirian   in almeria
09:55 cirbirian   i´m from spain
09:55 cirbirian   yes
09:55 cirbirian   hello again
09:55 wasabi      lol, i didnt say he was....
09:55 slef        Koha vendors do not carve up the world along national borders
09:54 slef        cirbirian is, but the co-op serves spain too... and I'm trying to help... but if cirbirian is a xercode customer, why ask here?
09:54 wasabi      oh, he is :-P
09:53 wasabi      oops, sorry - i thought cirbirian was from spain
09:52 slef        wasabi--
09:51 wasabi      go xercode!!!
09:51 wasabi      go spain!! :)
09:50 wasabi      heya cirbirian
09:50 wasabi      lol, ah yeah… welcome to your daily marc-wtf  :)
09:50 slef        cirbirian: greetings by the way. One of my colleagues is in Spain, but not here now.
09:49 slef        you see, that's 100$a in MARC21 and LOC uses MARC21.  If you use unimarc, LOC is not sending useful data.
09:48 munin       slef: Personal name A surname and/or forename; letters, initials, abbreviations, phrases, or numbers used in place of a name; or a family name.
09:48 slef        @marc 100 a
09:48 slef        cirbirian: are you a unimarc library?
09:33 kf          good morning #koha
09:25 cirbirian   can you helpme
09:24 cirbirian   the author appears in field 100.a (General Proceesing Data)
09:24 cirbirian   why?
09:23 cirbirian   also there is not date
09:23 cirbirian   there is not author
09:23 cirbirian   and when I import the book, there is not title
09:22 cirbirian   write the Title, choose LOC Z39.50
09:22 cirbirian   y pick on z39.50 Search
09:21 cirbirian   I try to catalogue this book: "General Theory of Lie Groupoids and Lie Algebroids"
09:21 cirbirian   I´m newbie with Koha and I´ve a doubt about cataloguing using Z39.50
09:20 cirbirian   greetings from spain
09:20 cirbirian   hello everyone
09:01 munin       slef: The operation succeeded.
09:01 slef        @later tell Brooke Not sure which one you mean, but OK.
08:25 paul_p      good morning #koha !
07:18 Oak         \o
06:30 kmkale      In Staff client search if I search a Author's name with Author as phrase I get results but If I search it with Personal Name I dont get any results. What is wrong?
06:28 ebegin      Can a user search Koha in a form : Title starting with __________
06:27 ebegin      I was asked a question today for which I don't know the answer... (believe it or not ;) )
05:20 ronald      hi koha, can anyone point me to why i tried the links from my catalogue search and got this "Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Koha.pm line 1219"?
03:50 Amit        heya kmkale
03:50 kmkale      hi Amit
03:41 chris       nope
03:40 Amit        chris: R u coming to india for worldcup
03:40 Amit        heya chris
03:40 chris       hi amit
03:40 Amit        heya all
03:32 kmkale      hi chris
03:32 chris       hi kmkale
03:29 kmkale      good morning all
03:16 chris       stock crap
03:16 wasabi      more w0w gold, or ugg boots?
02:31 Brooke      get im!
02:30 chris       god damned wiki spammers
02:24 Brooke      cause someone would say summat :P
02:23 Brooke      yeah but I wouldn't have to ponder the meaning of life
02:23 * druthb    whacks herself in the head again, and shambles back to her corner.
02:23 druthb      dona eis requiem
02:23 ibeardsle   there would be no "monastic resonation of #koha" with a system that wasn't koha
02:23 * druthb    whacks herself in the forehead.
02:23 druthb      Pie Iesu domine,
02:23 Brooke      are you not automated at all?
02:22 * ibeardsle was about to look up our local council library for either the Monty Python movie or HHGTTG .. but remembered 'we' use a non-koha system
02:20 * Brooke    ponders the meaning of life in the monastic resonation of #koha.
01:49 druthb      :P  mess with 'em.
01:49 * Brooke    is coming dangerously close to messin' with Tejas.
01:42 * druthb    waves back at Brooke.  :)
01:41 * Brooke    waves to druth
01:02 Brooke      :)
01:02 chris       hiya Brooke
01:02 Brooke      kia ora