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23:37 chris heh
23:36 wasabi ooh, chris' dad's got 3 books on the processing-bench at kapiti-lib
23:06 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -7.9�C (5:07 PM CST on January 25, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady).
23:05 moodaepo @wunder 56001
22:29 wizzyrea but yea, def get one
22:28 jcamins chris: one step at a time. First we introduce computers, *then* we introduce smartphones. :)
22:26 chris thats how we issued everyone at kohacon
22:26 chris course your phone works with koha too
22:25 jcamins Yeah, I need one at some point.
22:25 chris even if you dont get one now, definitely get one, it saves tons of time testing things
22:24 chris they had them last time i was there, try staples
22:24 wizzyrea I haven't ever seen one at our best buy
22:24 jcamins chris: wait, let me guess... it's nice and warm in NZ, isn't it? :P
22:24 chris itll come in hand for lots of things
22:24 chris barcode scanner
22:23 wizzyrea cameras or barcode scanners?
22:23 chris just grab a cheap usb one
22:23 chris and you can get one at pretty much any store like frys, or best buy
22:23 Nate :)
22:23 chris they cost next to nothing
22:23 Nate I have cameras
22:22 jcamins Or maybe I just give up on this, and tell the library "when you have a working barcode scanner, it'll be really cool."
22:22 jcamins Maybe Nate does.
22:22 jcamins Don't have a camera.
22:22 jcamins Blah.
22:18 wizzyrea so, try your point and shoot, if it does webcam-type stuff
22:17 wizzyrea Yes. EvoBarcode will recognize any QuickTime-compatible camera, however not all cameras provide a high enough quality image for barcode scanning. We recommend the external iSight because it provides a very high quality image, and good manual focus controls, but other users have had success with other IIDC cameras, DV camcorders, and USB cameras.
22:17 wizzyrea I don't have an external iSight. Can I use a different kind of camera?
22:17 wizzyrea No. The built-in iSight does not have focus control, and will not work reliably with EvoBarcode. For best results we recommend an external iSight or similar camera with focus control.
22:17 wizzyrea Does EvoBarcode work with the built-in iSight on iMac, MacBook and MacBook Pro computers?
22:17 wizzyrea aha
22:16 * wizzyrea thinks perhaps she needs better light
22:16 wizzyrea meh that's maddening
22:12 * jcamins gives up
22:11 wizzyrea yea, i'm not sure the last time I tried it worked :/
22:10 jcamins Clearly I'm missing something here.
22:09 * jcamins gets frustrated with EvoBarcode and moves on.
22:08 wizzyrea i know there were more >.<
22:07 jcamins I have xcode. I'll try bruji now.
22:07 jcamins This is a bit trickier than I would have expected.
22:06 jcamins Hm.
22:05 wizzyrea oh, for that you'll need the xcode tools, for bruji
22:05 wizzyrea ye, that's the one that I'm using on my android
22:04 darling ^ a bit raw but I like zxing on android
22:04 wizzyrea oh yea, darling's been working with zxing
22:04 darling http://www.springenwerk.com/2009/01/barcode-recognition-with-googles-zxing.html
22:03 wizzyrea oh it uses zbar :) of course it does
22:03 wizzyrea mine was ppc only (rosetta)
22:03 wizzyrea and yours is universal
22:02 wizzyrea ahshucks
22:02 wizzyrea :) sure
22:02 jcamins wizzyrea++
22:02 jcamins Thank you!
22:02 wizzyrea woot!
22:02 wizzyrea and that!
22:01 jcamins http://www.bruji.com/cocoa/barcode.html
22:01 wizzyrea http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/16461/evobarcode
22:01 wizzyrea Aha!
22:01 wizzyrea i'm still looking :D
22:00 jcamins :(
21:59 wizzyrea but no binary for mac :/
21:59 wizzyrea http://sourceforge.net/projects/zbar/
21:59 wizzyrea zbar is the oss cam->barcode scanning utility
21:56 wizzyrea but might help you
21:56 wizzyrea http://www.scannerfly.com/
21:56 sekjal anyway, got to get. have a good evening, #koha!
21:56 wizzyrea this is not what I was thinking of
21:54 * wizzyrea knows that she had a barcode reader for mac... wtf was it
21:53 jcamins Interesting.
21:52 sekjal less immediately applicable, but on topic
21:52 sekjal http://androidforums.com/application-requests/44847-barcode-scanner-pc.html
21:51 wizzyrea ok, then you can use that as a barcode scanner, one sec
21:51 jcamins My Mac does.
21:51 wizzyrea jcamins: does the computer in question have a webcam?
21:50 jcamins If I'd known I was going to need one, I'd have declawed a cue cat.
21:50 jcamins Thanks.
21:50 sekjal ah... I'd send you my CueCat, if it was electronically transmittable
21:49 * jcamins needs to demonstrate what a barcode scanner would work like.
21:49 sekjal that'd be wicked neat, though, so someone must have tried
21:48 sekjal jcamins: the Barcode app allows for custom URLs, but I'm not sure it can do real-time scanning as an input device to another computer
21:47 jcamins Does anyone know how to use an Android device as a barcode reader hooked to a computer?
21:44 cait good night / day all :)
21:44 cait chris: I wrote a big note and todo in my calendar to test :)
21:43 fredericd I can see recent patches with utf8::decode...
21:43 cait a lot of work waiting tomorrow
21:43 druthb g'night, cait!
21:43 cait ok, bed time for me here :)
21:42 chris maybe chris missed pushing something
21:42 lavamind hey folks, thanks for your help, I think I'm ready to go in terms of deploying Koha
21:42 chris here both work
21:42 chris no
21:42 cait so we have to choose? ;)
21:42 chris will have to investigate more
21:42 chris and then we fixed that
21:42 chris yeah, and only the xslt didnt
21:42 cait chris: I thought we found a solution? you made me add a line to a file and it worked after that
21:41 fredericd but even on staff search result page
21:41 chris yeah that works here i wonder what is differnet then
21:41 lavamind lol @ibot
21:41 cait that's my old bug then
21:41 fredericd yes
21:41 cait like branch names with accents?
21:41 cait fredericd: testing with english templates everything that comes from the db?
21:39 fredericd chris: for, the isn't any place in koha with TT where accented characters are properly displayed
21:38 ibot lavamind is erupting patches all over us! or a koha committer
21:38 wizzyrea what is lavamind?
21:38 ibot okay, wizzyrea.
21:38 wizzyrea lavamind is also a koha committer
21:38 cait lol
21:38 druthb hehehe
21:38 wizzyrea rofl
21:38 ibot lavamind is erupting patches all over us!
21:38 gmcharlt what is lavamind?
21:37 druthb adium --
21:37 ibot i already had it that way, druthb.
21:37 munin druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #118 added.
21:37 druthb @quote add wizzyrea: lavamind is erupting patches all over us!
21:37 druthb why isn't copy/paste working right...grrr.
21:37 ibot i already had it that way, druthb.
21:37 druthb wizzyrea: lavamind is erupting patches all over us!
21:37 munin druthb: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
21:37 druthb @quote add wizzyrea: lavamind is erupting patches all over us!
21:36 druthb lavamind++
21:36 wizzyrea I had to. Sorry.
21:36 cait lavamind++
21:36 wizzyrea lavamind++
21:35 wizzyrea lavamind is erupting patches all over us!
21:34 fredericd and one new commiter
21:34 fredericd lavamind: ^^ it's your patch
21:33 fredericd http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2011-January/013704.html
21:31 chris so its not that hard to do
21:31 chris well .po files dont actually care where the string exists
21:31 chris so just need to get the webinstaller to call the right script
21:31 fredericd that sounds too good to be true...
21:31 chris fredericd: chris hall has been working on rewriting the translator scripts to work with template toolkit, it will mean not having to retranslate everything
21:31 fredericd chris: That's the reason why I'm curious to see new TT templates...
21:30 lavamind installing translations from the web installer would be awsome
21:30 wizzyrea boo no brooke
21:30 chris got 3 more months to do that :-)
21:29 fredericd This will be done for 3.4 not 3.2 (translation from .po file on the fly)
21:29 lavamind it was difficult to understand why those two commands existed
21:28 lavamind yeah, and even then, lots of docs still mention the "tmpl_process3.pl" script
21:28 fredericd yes, the plan is to modify web installer to translate templates during the installation process
21:27 fredericd but average person installing Koha on 'standard' mode are not supposed to run script by hand
21:27 lavamind it would indeed be nice for those to be integrated in the install itself
21:27 fredericd so, people are supposed to do it by hand, as you've done
21:26 fredericd and Koha don't have an integrated way for generating templates from .po files
21:26 fredericd The release doesn't contains translated Koha templates
21:26 fredericd we have now a problem with 3.2 monthly version release
21:25 lavamind heheh
21:25 fredericd lavamind: this problem is for 3.2 Release Manager
21:25 lavamind I suppose the patch will make it in the next minor release ?
21:24 lavamind As of 3.2.4 ?
21:23 fredericd lavamind: yes, this is not true anymore
21:23 lavamind « Note: This will only work with a dev installation, not in a standard installation. To install additional languages in a standard installation you can still use the old script, but it will only work for translation of staff and opac, not for translation of system preferences. » <== not anymore, it works now!
21:23 lavamind Perhaps this page should be adjusted : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client#Koha_3.2
21:20 fredericd get it
21:20 lavamind fredericd: patch sent
21:18 cait lavamind: I only wondered why it didn't come through yet
21:18 fredericd you still will get the credit for the patch
21:18 fredericd lavamind: send me your patch by email. I will sign-off it and resubmit it to the list.
21:18 lavamind someone just needs to moderate the message I suppose
21:17 lavamind from reading the wiki I understood that membership was optional
21:17 lavamind cait: no, I haven't, I can't say I want to receive 50 emails a day about patches to Koha, for now anyway
21:13 chris cya chris_n
21:13 * chris_n waves bye and heads home
21:12 cait lavamind. have you subscribed to the list before sending?
21:12 Nate Hiya cait!
21:12 cait hi Nate
21:11 lavamind commit id 0c48e2c1c43c8e1dfdbc18ed9debd1d2b5b6e905
21:11 lavamind fredericd: the patch is sent
21:08 chris heh
21:08 Nate Well Heeelllllooooo there
21:07 chris wb nate
21:06 chris can you update the wiki page with that info, and a url so we can recreate
21:05 chris cool those are the things we are looking for
21:02 fredericd I can see a location on the opac where accented characters are not properly displayed
21:02 fredericd and what has to be tested exactly?
21:02 chris yep thats right
21:01 fredericd http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template_toolkit_test
21:00 fredericd (I'm reading koha wiki)
21:00 fredericd you mean with TT templates already there?
21:00 chris but template_test has them pregenerated
21:00 chris you can try the other one if you are brave (it runs the script to generate the templates)
20:59 chris thats the one
20:59 fredericd chris: is it on template_test branch?
20:58 chris thank you both
20:57 * owen will try to make some time as well
20:56 cait I can try - but not before the weekend I think
20:56 fredericd lavamind: et merci, c'est du bon boulot !
20:56 cait ah ok
20:55 chris i think they are fixed now
20:55 chris so some links used to be broken
20:55 chris cait: yeah theme/language etc template toolkit cares about scope, html::template doesnt
20:55 lavamind fredericd: ok
20:54 cait chris: issues with global variables?
20:54 fredericd lavamind: 'in standard install' because it works on devel
20:54 cait here
20:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Translation Process Simplification
20:53 lavamind fredericd: okay for the commit message : "Bug 5506 Fix installation of prefs translations" ?
20:41 chris or anyone else for that matter
20:41 chris we think we have fixed the utf8 and xslt issue and also fixed some of the scoping issues with global variables, if you have time to test sometime that would be great
20:41 chris http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/template_test
20:40 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template_toolkit_test
20:39 chris cait: you about?
20:36 owen The sad thing is I think this was like ten years ago
20:36 wizzyrea owen: if there's not a game you just invented it
20:35 chris :)
20:34 owen The phrase "roaming bittorrents," for the moment, gets zero hits.
20:34 owen Didn't there used to be game where you would try to combine two words to arrive at the Google result with the least number of hits?
20:31 chris hehe yeah
20:30 * owen wonders, "'roaming' bittorrents?"
20:30 fredericd druthb: the more the merrier
20:29 fredericd this way you will have your name on the patch
20:29 fredericd as explained on koha wiki
20:29 chris no
20:29 fredericd no, you format a patch and you send it to koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org
20:29 lavamind uh, you want to give me write access to Git ??
20:28 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Share_with_the_rest_of_the_world
20:28 druthb more_committers++
20:28 wizzyrea < 87 ;)
20:28 fredericd http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
20:28 fredericd lavamind: to get your name on Koha history, as suggested by chris, you must send your patch with git
20:27 ebegin I see
20:27 lavamind I work in the IT dept
20:27 lavamind ebegin: College Maisonneuve
20:27 cait :)
20:26 lavamind fredericd: I'll submit the patch to the tracker
20:23 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Translation Process Simplification
20:23 fredericd This patch should be rattached to bug 5506
20:23 fredericd chris: you're correct :-)
20:22 chris everyone wants a line in the history file ;)
20:22 chris or lavamind could send one :)
20:18 fredericd lavamind: yes, you're correct. Thanks. I will send a patch
20:17 ebegin lavamind, from which college are you ^
20:12 lavamind with this patch, prefs are translated!
20:12 lavamind sorry I was making the diff, heh
20:12 lavamind fredericd: yes, here http://pastebin.com/16gGa5Cp
20:11 fredericd lavamind: could you be more specific?
20:11 chris it might be just a pet peeve of mine, but sending a .doc file about an open source workshop makes me dismiss it
20:09 lavamind oops I mean LangInstaller.pm
20:09 lavamind based on the commit diff cait put here just before, there's a bug remaining in misc/translate
20:08 ebegin lavamind, what was it?
20:07 lavamind fredericd, ebegin: I found the problem
20:06 chris id give that a whirl, and also check your apache error logs
20:05 lac chris: yes
20:04 chris right, then running zebra wont help, do you have a test instance you can upgrade to 3.2.3?
20:03 lac chris: exactly
20:03 chris ahh but the marc hasnt been updated? (or the marcxml) ie there is a new item but the marc hasnt been changed?
20:01 lac chris: yes, they exist in the db but their marc blob is outdated i guess, i'm attaching items to records and i'll get the error "item cannot be added" but then it gets added and i can't find the record by searching
20:00 chris nozebra isnt maintained any more, but before you do that, can you check the records exist in the db?
20:00 lavamind fredericd: seems to me like .pref files are copies okay : http://pastebin.com/5F8XaKPh
19:59 lac chris: ok
19:59 chris id strongly suggest using zebra, and upgrading to 3.2.3
19:58 lac chris: yes
19:58 chris 3.2.0 ?
19:58 chris 3.2.what?
19:58 lac chris: yes, 3.2
19:58 chris what version of koha?
19:58 chris and you are definitely running nozebra?
19:57 lac any particular reason why my marc records are not being added or updated to the search results? i tried running misc/migration_tools/rebuild_nozebra.pl but that didn't resolve the issue
19:56 Nate Hi Chris!!
19:56 chris heya Nate
19:54 fredericd ebegin: ./tmpl_process3.pl doesn't handle .pref files translation
19:54 fredericd try a locate opac.pref
19:54 ebegin lavamind, did you run ./tmpl_process3.pl install -i ...
19:54 fredericd translated .pref files may have been copied in the wrong location
19:53 lavamind fredericd: "standard"
19:52 fredericd lavamind: is it a normal or devel install?
19:51 lavamind the .pref files are installed under fr-FR, but contain English strings
19:51 lavamind ebegin: yes, I made sure I'm at the right place, like I said, the template translations are not missing
19:50 lavamind ebegin: I'm working exclusively from the installed koha dir, not installer
19:50 ebegin you may have installed koha in /usr/share/koha/
19:49 ebegin lavamind, make sure you have the files in your the installed version of Koha and not the installer directory...
19:49 cait you could add to the bug report that it's still not working
19:48 cait lavamind: sorry, out of ideas now :(
19:48 lavamind cait: opac and intranet translations are installed OK
19:47 chris someone with authorities :)
19:47 lavamind cait: in misc/translator/po : fr-FR-i-opac-t-prog-v-3002000.po fr-FR-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po fr-FR-pref.po
19:47 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5657 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED, biblio records update fails when updating multiple authorities linked with the same biblio
19:47 cait bug 5657
19:46 cait lavamind: looks ok to me - no idea :( you have the po file for the pref?
19:46 wizzyrea doh I don't have any authorities
19:45 chris want to reward the new guy ;)
19:45 chris and signoff
19:45 chris and the patch submitted
19:45 lavamind cait: http://pastebin.com/mkf5aFxG
19:45 chris id love it if someone could take a look at 5657
19:43 cait lavamind: any error messages?
19:42 sekjal got a fix for 5367;
19:38 lavamind I just reinstalled using 3.2.3, and still no fr-FR prefs :(
19:38 lavamind hi ebegin
19:35 ebegin Hi lavamind.
19:35 ebegin hi guys
19:34 chris back
19:20 chris Ok my stop bbiab
19:20 chris Robin is on annual leave
19:20 chris Nope, will be done Monday nz time
19:19 lavamind I see the .deb for 3.2.3 hasn't been uploaded yet, though
19:19 chris Id love to get a FAI build for koha too
19:19 chris Puppet ftw
19:19 chris Yup
19:18 chris You don't want them fighting each other
19:18 chris You will need to get 50 zebra instances running, so you will want to change the paths for where they store files
19:18 chris And zebra
19:18 chris The packages do things like cron jobs etc too
19:17 lavamind and simple to implement in Puppet ;)
19:17 fredericd hi cait
19:17 cait hi fredericd
19:17 chris Is all you really need
19:17 chris Yeah sep conf and db
19:16 lavamind chris: I saw a page on the wiki about running multiple instance, but it was much more convoluted than that
19:16 chris No worries
19:15 lavamind chris: that's amazing, thank you so much
19:15 chris then they all run from same codebase
19:14 chris And changing db names and passwords
19:14 chris Copying the first ones
19:14 chris Make 50 dbs, 50 apache config, and 50 koha-conf.xml
19:13 chris Or, you can just do a standard install
19:13 lavamind whoa, really
19:13 chris :)
19:12 chris 50 times
19:12 chris Then you run koha-create newsite
19:12 chris Use the koha-common debian packages
19:12 cait ah, and chris is back :)
19:11 chris lavamind: yes
19:11 cait sorry, i have no experience with setting up multiple instances on one server
19:11 lavamind right now I'm thinking that by adjusting koha-http, koha-conf, I could make it work?
19:10 lavamind is it feasible to duplicate a koha site (ie. one.koha.mydomain.com, two.koha.mydomain.com) automatically ? or am I really stuck running perl Makefile.PL every time ?
19:10 sekjal tools/batchMod.pl line 436
19:07 lavamind cait: oh, even better!
19:06 cait lavamind: it will select the sample sql files from the language you run the web installer
19:03 druthb sekjal++ # he's just so *danged* smart!
18:58 chris Back
18:57 lavamind fredericd: ok, yeah, logical :)
18:54 fredericd lavamind: install translation before runing the web installer
18:49 lavamind or should I really just install translations _after_ "make install" ?
18:49 lavamind if I want the web installer to propose a language other the English, do I simply need to run misc/translator/translate from the uncompressed install dir?
18:47 chris ok time for my bus, be back from on the bus, 3g permitting
18:47 * druthb would not turn down another opportunity to see chris, either. :)
18:46 chris im sure you can :)
18:46 druthb I've heard awesome things about Access. Wonder if I can get Brendan to send me...
18:44 lavamind I see, interesting
18:44 chris its an IT in libraries conference
18:44 chris lavamind: so is mine
18:44 chris there is going to be a preconf about FOSS in libraries, which you may or may not want to attend, the conference itself is always great (from all accounts) (I think im speaking during the conference proper too)
18:44 lavamind chris: my field is more IT, so I doubt we'll meet there
18:43 chris I am going to Access in Vancouver at the end of the year http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/
18:41 chris on a different note
18:40 chris we are working on it, there are few circular refs and global variables to tidy up
18:40 chris *nod*
18:40 lavamind chris: I'll stick to cgi then, performance shouldn't be much of an issue, reliability is more important
18:40 chris brice sanchez runs under mod_perl and is happy with it
18:39 chris lavamind: koha isnt totally mod_perl safe, having said that there are people using it, im fairly confident the opac can run under mod_perl with no major issues
18:39 chris lavamind/cait: that is exactly the commit you want, and its in 3.2.3
18:38 lavamind btw, should I use mod_perl &??
18:38 lavamind yes it is, I wish it would have been sooner, because I'm rushing to deploy 50 instances of Koha correctly
18:38 chris eric_b: you awake? :)
18:37 chris lavamind: and that is excellent news about using Koha in the curriculum
18:37 chris and i work with someone who is from quebec city (lives in nz now) .. those the only 2 people from quebec i know :)
18:36 chris http://www.inlibro.com/solutions/koha
18:35 chris s/works/owns/
18:35 chris ahhh he works for inlibro
18:35 lavamind I'm completely new to the Koha community here
18:35 chris thanks cait
18:35 chris and then the answer will be archived for all to see
18:35 cait chris: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=3f9b09fa0ad06affad1a44ec351178f595316798
18:35 lavamind chris: no, I dont think I know him
18:35 chris and will see it
18:35 chris lavamind: maybe drop an email to koha-translate@lists.koha-community.org, frederic (a fellow french speaker) is the translation manager
18:34 lavamind if you want the scoop, I work for a public college and we just dropped Workflows for Koha in the curriculum
18:34 chris cait: cant find the commit
18:34 chris ohh, do you know eric begin?
18:33 lavamind cait: yep 'the other side'
18:33 cait that's far away :)
18:32 sekjal chris: aaaah, there's a difference in C4/Auth.pm, but it's the OPAC Public dev....
18:32 cait ah
18:32 lavamind cait: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
18:32 cait where are you from lavamind?
18:31 * chris will look
18:31 cait perhaps several fixed in one bug
18:31 cait chris: it was from frederic
18:31 chris http://koha-community.org/2101koha-3-2-3/
18:31 chris ill just check it has been fixed (lots of other fixes in 3.2.3 so worth upgrading anyway)
18:31 lavamind if you have a commit id that could work too
18:30 lavamind the class hasn't started yet, so it's not too bad
18:30 chris cait: can you remember the bug number?
18:30 chris then do a backup or 2 before upgrading :)
18:29 lavamind chris : yes, more or less, it's for teaching
18:29 chris is it a production system?
18:29 cait you can update to 3.2.3 that should work too - but have not tested it since it was changed
18:28 chris you could get 3.2.3 and upgrade
18:28 lavamind should I clone from git then ?
18:28 lavamind oh
18:28 chris ahh that might be it
18:28 cait before it was not working for standard
18:28 cait there was a bug fixed for standard install - I think in 3.2.3
18:28 lavamind cait: standard
18:28 cait lavamind: standard install or dev install?
18:28 chris drop an email to koha-translate@lists.koha-community.org
18:27 lavamind fr-FR
18:27 lavamind yet in the .po files, I see there are translations for prefs in that language
18:27 chris what language lavamind ?
18:27 lavamind hello, using koha-3.2.2, I'm trying to install translated preferences, but it's not working : running translate -p install <lang>, the *.pref files are created but not translated! (still in English)
18:26 chris gets set
18:26 chris thats where CAN_user_tools_items_batchdel etc
18:26 chris check that
18:26 chris C4/Auth.pm
18:25 sekjal and comparing the code, it's the same on the batchMod.pl, batchMod-del.tmpl and batchMod-edit.tmpl
18:25 sekjal nope, can't replicate on my machine
18:19 chris but you cant replicate?
18:18 chris hmmm
18:18 sekjal interesting... still got some folks noticing it, and they're on very recent code
18:18 chris at least thats what my cursory test tell me
18:17 chris yeah thats fixed sekjal
18:16 chris yay!
18:16 cait whoohoo - repaired my ubuntu installation :)
18:15 * chris will look sekjal
18:15 ibot well, wasabi is sleeping
18:15 Brooke ibot: wasabi
18:14 chris woot wasabi
18:13 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5376 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Batch Edit and Delete need Superlibrarian Permissions
18:13 sekjal my tests for bug 5376 are showing it's no longer present in HEAD. can anyone confirm?
18:09 wizzyrea hi brooke
18:09 Brooke kia ora
18:08 wasabi https://github.com/KohaAloha/koha/commit/af4e0f2c9fc63012850d0b157a06e246e9739dd9
18:07 wasabi oooh, pushed to github….
18:06 cait ignore me... found the problem
18:04 cait ok, shift worked exactly one time... and now it stopped working
17:59 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #47: FIXED in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/47/
17:59 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed!
17:58 rhcl wasabi++
17:58 rhcl Hey, the ratings thing looks good
17:57 wasabi now to push up to github...
17:56 wasabi trying to get it ready for chris this week, before 3.4 cut-off
17:55 owen Nice
17:54 wasabi http://head.kohaaloha.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=a
17:54 cait cool :)
17:54 cait wasabi++
17:54 wasabi my ratings thingy running on 3.2.3
17:54 cait hoped jared was here to tell me what to do now :)
17:53 cait spend a lot of time googling too
17:53 cait yeah, confusing
17:53 wasabi lol, it *was* escape
17:53 wasabi 'Hold down SHIFT to display the hidden menu during boot (formerly ESC is GRUB legacy).'
17:52 wasabi http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
17:51 cait chris: coworker almost solved my ubuntu problem - it's shift during boot to get into grub :)
17:50 cait hi chris
17:50 chris hi cait
17:49 cait jcamins: around?
17:46 hudsonbot Starting build 47 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #45 15 hr ago)
17:45 jwagner hi cait
17:38 cait hi #koha
17:32 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #46: FAILURE in 7 min 24 sec: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/46/
17:25 hudsonbot Starting build 46 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:56 paul_p thx wizzyrea. Small trip (1H15)
16:55 wizzyrea safe travels paul_p
16:39 paul_p time to go to catch my plane... going to Lille once again ! see you on thursday #koha !
16:27 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch build #1: SUCCESS in 16 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch/1/
16:26 munin jwagner: The operation succeeded.
16:26 jwagner @later tell chris A later git pull seems to have resolved the updatedatabase error.
16:13 hudsonbot Starting build 1 for job Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch
15:51 kf thx
15:49 owen http://visualjquery.com : Manipulation -> Changing Contents
15:48 kf perhaps because I messed up my selector at some point :(
15:46 owen I'm surprised html() didn't work too
15:45 kf owen++
15:45 kf thx
15:45 kf I had html()
15:45 kf text
15:45 owen $("td").text("New next");
15:43 kf <td>Item DUE</td> - I have selected the element, but now I want to change it
15:43 kf (translation issue9
15:43 kf can you give me a hint? I am trying to replace the content of an element with different text
15:42 owen Yes
15:42 kf owen: around?
15:41 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
15:41 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #320: UNSTABLE in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/320/
15:22 paul_p (or someone else has a git access and silently fixed the problem ;-) )
15:22 paul_p gmcharlt, right ! so either bots are more and more intelligent, or he works in his sleep
15:21 gmcharlt and the apparent, though scary, revelation that chris can do small bugfixes IN HIS SLEEP!
15:21 gmcharlt paul_p: I was referring to the commit announcement
15:19 jwagner Or else he's secretly perfected Clone.pm...
15:17 paul_p he will be delivered when someone with his nick says something
15:17 kf jwagner: does not seem so :)
15:17 paul_p jwagner, yes, he's sleeping. munin is just saying he has registered the request. But still not delivered the message.
15:17 gmcharlt paul_p: thanks
15:17 paul_p 'morning gmcharlt (just answered to your mail)
15:16 jwagner Doesn't he EVER sleep????
15:16 gmcharlt would appear that chris got the message :)
15:15 wizzyrea sorry to hear about the headache
15:15 hudsonbot Starting build 320 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:11 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdaf3c69e195217d4316483cb919f63b2a5ca72b>
15:10 munin jwagner: The operation succeeded.
15:10 jwagner @later tell chris I got an error on my latest git pull against current head, when I ran update database. It said "updatedatabase.pl: Argument "3.0300XXX" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at /home/k32/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 3957."
15:09 jwagner wizzyrea, thanks -- brain isn't working too clearly today (nasty migraine is building, sigh)
15:09 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-591-gfdaf3c6 10/ (installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl kohaversion.pl): Bumping database version
15:03 wizzyrea that way you dont' have to try to remember
15:03 wizzyrea you could @later him
15:03 jwagner I'll try to remember to ping chris later then.
15:02 paul_p ( 'morning owen )
15:02 paul_p mmm.... 3.0300XXX means it's an unfinished merge. If it's an uptodate fetch, then it means chris means something
15:02 owen Looks like that XXX slipped in by mistake
15:02 jwagner (current head)
15:01 jwagner Hmm. Has anyone done a git pull this morning & gotten an error in the web installer? My last one went fine, but I'm now getting "updatedatabase.pl: Argument "3.0300XXX" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at /home/k32/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 3957."
14:51 jwagner I haven't dug into the problem deeply yet; searching bugzilla didn't come up with much.
14:49 jwagner Correction, not the * but just truncation in general they're saying doesn't work in advanced search.
14:49 jwagner auto truncate is off, but we have a site reporting that wildcard (*) isn't working in advanced search. This was the nearest bugzilla entry I found, so I was hoping :-)
14:46 paul_p jwagner, nope, I don't know anything specific about this bug. We always have Autotruncate=OFF now, because the patrons are in trouble when they don't expect a short word to be autotruncate !
14:45 * jwagner would like to take that class :-)
14:44 paul_p (hdl is teaching git/patch/perl/ to one of our customers)
14:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3571 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, AutoTruncation is not allowed alone
14:44 jwagner paul_p, do you know specifics about Bug 3571? hdl isn't online or I'd ask him :-)
14:43 wizzyrea good morning
14:38 paul_p hello jwagner, i'm here now !
14:07 jwagner Guten tag, kf
14:07 kf hi jwagner
14:05 jwagner paul_p, online?
13:52 * druthb hands kmkale a strip of Velcro, so he can fasten himself to the room.
13:51 * magnus wanders off to catch a train
13:23 magnus a ha
13:22 kf our union catalog uses that term too
13:22 kf 001 controlnumber in pica catalogs (afaik)
13:22 kf hi magnus .)
13:21 magnus kf (hi!): ppn?
13:20 kf I see ppn mentioned a lot there - interesting for us :)
12:50 magnus wow, looks like biblibre has lot's of cool stuff coming - i love the possibility to anonymize with cron!
12:50 kmkale ouch
12:49 chris_n google's latest "new" feature set breaks their oid stuff for edu hosted email
12:49 chris_n hi kmkale
12:49 * chris_n thinks this is *not* a good way to start the day
12:49 kmkale hi chris_n
12:48 chris_n google--
12:39 jwagner Morning, all
12:22 magnus at one time there was an incompatibility with the jquery version used by juice and the one shipped with koha, not sure how that works now
12:21 magnus yeah, that is cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha...
12:19 wasabi http://code.google.com/p/juice-project/wiki/ScreenShots
12:18 wasabi looks nice...
12:18 wasabi oooh, http://juice-project.org/
09:49 wasabi if you've opened your door, you've just bought some steak-knives...
09:49 wasabi lol, is that really true!?!
09:48 wasabi 'Most users do not realise that starting the software means you have accepted the end user licence."'
09:48 wasabi http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/01/24/221236/Italian-Consumer-Watchdog-Sues-Microsoft-Over-Windows-Tax
09:34 kf hi #koha
08:48 chris done
08:45 chris in case it goes away, thats why
08:45 chris http://www.bugzilla.org/security/3.2.9/
08:45 * chris is upgrading bugzilla
08:42 munin paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 1.0�C (9:30 AM CET on January 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
08:42 paul_p @wunder marseille, france
08:42 chris quite a nice evening tonight
08:42 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on January 25, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
08:41 chris @wunder wellington nz
08:41 paul_p hi chris. Quite cold in Marseille those days... deep winter is here. I hope your deep summer is fine ;-)
08:40 praba 4thanks chris.. i ll look into that
08:39 chris hi paul_p
08:36 paul_p (& good night kiwis ;-) )
08:35 paul_p good morning #koha !
08:32 chris for the cronjobs you need to set up
08:32 chris look in misc/cronjobs/crontab.example
08:31 praba 4ya exactly 3.0.6..
08:30 chris 3.0.6 you mean?
08:21 praba i'm getting mail for new registration but don't know how to enable it for overdue, issue, return notices
08:20 praba how to enable email notifications in koha 3.06
08:20 praba hi
07:47 kmkale brb
07:34 chris cool
07:34 BobB Thanks again.
07:34 BobB Gotta go. Will let you know the outcome when I hear back from Seth.
07:32 wasabi cool, i shut up then...
07:31 chris yeah it works fine
07:28 wasabi anyone else know about bulkimport.pl importing item-level info correctly ?
07:26 BobB We'll have to wait for Seth to tell us whether items are present. He isn't about at present. I've left a message.
07:26 wasabi most of the bibs i've imported using the tool, didnt have item/952 info
07:24 wasabi but im pretty sure it does
07:24 wasabi i cant remember, offhand - its been a while since i last used it
07:24 BobB But bulkmarcimport.pl does create item records, if a 952 field is present?
07:22 wasabi which is basically what chris.c just said :)
07:22 wasabi but no actual item rows exist in the items table, for circ to work
07:21 wasabi so in that situ, zebra searching works, coz its indexed the item records fine...
07:20 wasabi im not sure that bulkmarcimport.pl creates the item records
07:19 wasabi if you imported the bibs using bulkmarcimport.pl you may have a problem
07:18 BobB Thanks heaps you guys.
07:18 BobB OK, there's enough for starters. I'll buzz off and ring Seth. Prolly having dinner!
07:18 wasabi just compare them to a working sane koha, to detect where its busted
07:17 chris next, do they have barcodes
07:17 wasabi but yeah, it will be the marc-items table linking stuff thats the prob
07:17 chris first thing you want to check is do the items exist
07:17 chris i think thats the long way, you cant rule anything out with only one
07:16 wasabi sure, so choose one of them, for starters :)
07:15 chris they are all problems
07:15 wasabi well, id go looking at specific problem bib/item, myself..
07:15 chris then depending on what you find, you have a bunch of things to check next
07:15 chris just to see what is in the barcodes column
07:14 chris is all you need to do first
07:14 chris just select barcode from items limit 10;
07:14 chris naw,
07:14 wasabi select * from items where barcode = '99999' etc...
07:14 chris then the next thing to check is the linkage
07:13 chris if there are either no items, or the items have no barcodes
07:13 chris checking the items actually exist and whats in the barcode table is the first thing
07:13 BobB Which the SQL query should also reveal?
07:13 wasabi /cgi-bin/koha/admin/koha2marclinks.pl is the place to check 1st
07:12 wasabi potentially goofy padding before/after the barcode too
07:12 BobB Hi Mason!
07:11 BobB I'll get him to make the inquiry you suggested and also check that items.barcode is mapped to 952$p. Anything else?
07:11 wasabi heya BobB
07:11 chris yeah
07:10 BobB I cannot think of any other reason.
07:10 BobB That's what he is seeing.
07:09 chris potentially yes
07:09 BobB OK, so if there's a problem at Items level the record will be found by Search but won't be recognised at Circulation?
07:09 chris so thats what you need to check
07:08 chris circulation uses the items table
07:08 chris yeah that uses the MARC
07:08 BobB Are you saying that Search will use Marc but circulation doesn't? He can search on barcodes and find his items.
07:07 BobB Unfortunately I don't have access to his system, but I am certain the barcodes are in 952$p.
07:07 chris because circulation doesnt care about marc
07:07 chris and have barcodes
07:07 chris make sure the items exist there
07:07 chris yeah, the first thing id do is check the items table
07:06 BobB Chris, I want to follow up on a problem that Seth Mayo raised on list this afternoon. Very puzzling.
07:06 BobB The organisers have done an amazing job. They re-planned the conference in 10 days. Very impressive.
07:04 chris yeah, sounds like they did a good job finding an alternative venue on short notice
07:04 BobB I'm in Brisbane for Linux Conf. Very hot and humid but at least we are above the water line.
07:03 BobB Hi Chris
07:03 chris hi BobB
06:54 hudsonbot Ian Walls: Bug 5619: Subfield 9 missing from most authorised heading fields
06:54 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #319: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/319/
06:41 chris done
06:33 chris ill send out a reminder email about the meeting
06:32 chris cool
06:32 kmkale done http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_Meeting,_2_February_2011#Agenda
06:30 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5619: Subfield 9 missing from most authorised heading fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=09f5786ff21362a4cd722783ccca64ed467fe4da>
06:29 chris hmm i wonder what my point of view was :)
06:29 hudsonbot Starting build 319 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:28 kmkale chris doing that right now
06:27 chris kmkale: irc meetings are how most things are decided, so definitely put it on the agenda for discussion
06:27 Amit this is better to meet all the koha developer and people
06:26 Amit yes i replied now i m in favour kohacon11 in mumbai
06:26 kmkale been getting emails from a lot of librarian from all over India. Everyone is exited :)
06:25 kmkale Thanks Amit. I had a email from Savitra too
06:25 Amit for kohacon11 in india
06:25 Amit kmkale: we will support to u.
06:25 kmkale ok
06:25 Amit kmkale: I think this is better
06:25 chris yeah, pop it on
06:24 kmkale hi wasabi
06:24 kmkale chris I wanted to ask if conference hosting should be an item on the agenda for the irc meeting on 2nd Feb
06:24 * wasabi waves at kmkale
06:24 kmkale hi chris
06:23 kmkale hi Amit
06:22 Amit hi kmkale
06:20 chris its down to 3 now :)
06:20 chris hi kmkale
06:20 ibot chris: system consumed all the paper for paging
06:20 chris excuse?
06:14 chris dl ?
06:10 wasabi yes :)
06:10 Amit wasabi: so r u coming to india if kohacon11 in india?
06:07 wasabi troll-1: dl-0
06:04 Amit kohacon11 in india++ ;)
06:03 Amit heya chris
06:03 chris hi Amit
06:03 chris if i even
06:03 chris wasabi: yeah that was fud i ever saw it
05:21 wasabi haay, kohacon11 in india++ :)
05:19 Amit heya mason
05:19 wasabi \o amit
05:18 Amit heya all
05:12 wasabi will installing a openbsd system introduce any security risks to my win95 network?
05:11 wasabi '[Koha] Tech consultants worried about the security of a windows server network if linux server with Koha is introduced. . .'
05:11 wasabi lol, this is gold...
02:45 Brooke :)
02:45 chris hiya Brooke
02:44 Brooke kiiia ora
02:14 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: add note about OPAC_SUG value to purchase suggestions
02:14 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: add section to opac chapter for purchase suggestions
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02:01 hudsonbot Starting build 45 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:00 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: break my account into sections
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01:46 hudsonbot Starting build 44 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:46 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add kit icon to XSLT appendix
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00:06 moodaepo @wunder 56001