Time Nick Message 22:37 sekjal I've got to get. have a great weekend, #koha! 22:36 * druthb stands mute, and a plea of "Not Guilty" was entered by the Court. 22:36 * Brooke is most certainly not the dog's bollocks. 22:36 wizzyrea lulz 22:36 * Brooke glares at druthb. 22:36 druthb Brooke++ # I has mah reasons. 22:36 Brooke harrumph 22:35 munin druthb: Karma for "Brooke" has been increased 10 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 9. 22:35 druthb @karma Brooke 22:35 sekjal my memory is fuzzy on that, too 22:35 wizzyrea i don't even know how that happened. 22:35 munin druthb: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 126 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 126. 22:35 druthb @karma wizzyrea 22:35 druthb harrumph! 22:33 wizzyrea I think it was someone doing his bidding, as he was trying to downgrade himself 22:32 * Brooke will kneecap them. 22:32 Brooke who was the creep that downgraded sekjal. 22:26 wizzyrea i mean 22:26 wizzyrea or a new bug in an oldish bug report 22:25 wizzyrea oh that's an old bug 22:12 sekjal brb 22:11 sekjal patch sent 22:11 munin druthb: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 59 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 58. 22:11 druthb @karma sekjal 22:10 munin Brooke: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 54 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 54. 22:10 Brooke @karma druthb 22:06 druthb sekjal++ # I'll never catch up to him, if I keep doing this... 22:06 wizzyrea yikes, and good catch 22:05 sekjal generating a patch now 22:05 sekjal seems it prevents people from logging into the OPAC if the OPAC is set to 'public' 22:05 sekjal found a pretty big bug in the new OpacPublic preference 21:46 Brooke ello ello 21:46 druthb hi. :) 21:40 cait normally I don't like shopping, but this could be fun 21:39 * Brooke is a shameless windowshopper. 21:39 Brooke :) 21:39 cait want to look at some things 21:39 cait Brooke: planning a research trip to local shops tomorrow 21:38 cait Brooke: :) 21:35 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -18.2�C (3:36 PM CST on January 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -22.0�C. Windchill: -25.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). 21:34 moodaepo @wunder 56001 21:28 Brooke I intend to splurge on a new mouse and some speakers soonish 21:27 Brooke nice 21:26 cait big remodeling project ;) 21:26 cait researching ... new laptop... new mouse... new external harddrive 21:26 cait ganz gut 21:26 cait ganu gut 21:25 Brooke wie geht's? 21:24 Brooke :) 21:23 cait hi Brooke 21:21 Brooke kia ora 20:20 jwagner OK, thanks. 20:19 wizzyrea maybe someday it will work, it's out of my hands now. 20:19 wizzyrea no the search for the manual doesn't work, it's been removed actually. 20:18 wizzyrea I wonder if it's closed.... I didn't look at closed ones 20:18 wizzyrea though I couldn't find the one you were looking for earlier 20:18 jwagner Thanks. You can outwit bugzilla better than I can :-( 20:17 munin 04Bug 1807: blocker, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results 20:17 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1807 20:17 jwagner speaking of trying to find things -- wizzyrea, it seems to be impossible to search in the 3.2 manual -- the search box only searches against the wiki site itself. Am I missing something? 20:16 jwagner I've been trying to find any mention of it, no luck so far. 20:16 wizzyrea there's a bug about parens I think 20:15 cait have not tested that 20:14 jwagner Koha seems not to like the parentheses. 20:14 jwagner OPAC, primarily. Can you use parentheses in constructing a query, like (juvenile* or youth or child*) and (sentenc* or jail* or prison* or justice) 20:12 cait in which context? 20:10 jwagner anybody on who knows about wildcard and boolean searching? 18:33 jwagner I know there was a bug report for the OPAC results list checkboxes being grayed out when they shouldn't be, but I can't find it. Ring any bells for anyon? 18:33 * jwagner grumbles at bugzilla 18:14 sekjal but searching on a known item returns no results 18:14 sekjal port 9999 is open 18:13 sekjal and restarted Zebra 18:13 sekjal I've updated koha-conf.xml 18:13 sekjal I'm trying to get a Koha server to be Z39.50 searchable... what am I missing? 17:39 * slef returns, unburnt 17:38 cait bye paul_p, have a nice weekend 17:35 paul_p time to go back home for week end ! bye bye #koha ! see you on monday ! 17:30 * jwagner hands slef insulated boots etc. 17:30 * slef goes to deal with electrics that have water in them :-( 17:15 wizzyrea another good one I got recently was (something that's good) really butters my parsnips 17:15 jwagner Gosh, haven't read that one in a long time. I think it's on my list to be weeded from my personal collection. Maybe I should reread first... 17:13 slef I stole it... probably from Clifford Stoll, The Cuckoo's Egg 17:11 wizzyrea reconstruct a pig from sausages... that is so entering my vocabulary 17:11 slef UTF-8 is lovely apart from the BOMs. 17:08 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #116 added. 17:08 wizzyrea @quote add slef: It's probably some corrupt mix of double-encoding or ISO-8859-1 mislabelled as MARC-8 and the problem is rather similar to trying to reconstruct a pig from sausages, sorry. 17:08 * jwagner waves back to cait 17:08 jwagner I thought UTF-8 caused us more problems? Our dataloader is always muttering about it, anyway. 17:08 * cait waves 17:06 slef That's why we keep pushing for UTF-8 but MARC-8 will be slow to die. 17:06 * jwagner is probably not realistic.... 17:06 * jwagner thinks the world would be a simpler place if we all used the same encoding. 17:05 jwagner Thanks slef. 17:01 slef It's probably some corrupt mix of double-encoding or ISO-8859-1 mislabelled as MARC-8 and the problem is rather similar to trying to reconstruct a pig from sausages, sorry. 17:00 jwagner Our problem is with taking data from 2.x and trying to load into current -- we can't figure out what the encoding is and none of our conversion routines are working for the diacritics. 16:58 slef I think encoding in 2.x was a bit of a mess... mysql and koha did not necessarily agree and we weren't very strong on directing people. But paul_p and hdl would have had to deal with that much more than I did. 16:57 jwagner But if you know the answer, I'd love to hear it :-) 16:57 jwagner (that would be an alert, not a disconnect. never mind...) 16:56 jwagner I had asked you (and paul) earlier if you knew anything about the encoding scheme in Koha 2.x -- maybe that's what was happening? 16:54 slef hi all - did I fall off or is my client telling me nicknames in a random order? 16:00 kf thx, you too wizzyrea 16:00 wizzyrea have a great weekend kf 16:00 wizzyrea it's ok, I just think we need to either get rid of the default rule, or fix it so it works 16:00 kf a nice weekend to you all! 15:59 kf and leaving now for the weekend :) 15:59 * kf decided to not look on such things today 15:59 * wizzyrea whallops friday... take that! 15:59 kf it's friday - you shoudl have expected that 15:59 wizzyrea I think I just ran up against it 15:59 munin 04Bug 4530: major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Circulation & fines rules aren't always applied from most specific to less specific 15:59 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4530 15:59 wizzyrea we haven't had any movement on this, right? 15:51 wizzyrea fully 15:51 wizzyrea I'm just now getting to appreciate it 15:51 wizzyrea owen++ for that awesome "click in the holdings field anywhere to edit" enhancement 15:26 jwagner Darn :-( None of our encoding conversions seem to work -- diacritics are all messed up. Was hoping someone would remember. I'll check with chris later too. 15:25 paul_p jwagner, I cant' tell you what it is. we (french/unimarc) haven't had this problem, because we don't have marc-8 here. 15:25 wizzyrea ty ty 15:25 paul_p wizzyrea yep 15:24 wizzyrea the smartrules are kept in issuingrules, right? 15:21 jwagner We're trying to upgrade some sites, but the data coming out of the 2.x systems does not seem to be latin-1, windows or MARC-8 or UTF8 encoding. Anyone know what it is? 15:20 jwagner paul_p or slef, online? (Or anyone who might remember version 2.x encoding?) 15:04 kmkale bye all. good night 14:36 wizzyrea_ oh mr rogers. 14:30 sekjal owen++ (for giving King Friday a good wallop upside the head) 14:28 owen Take that, Friday. 14:27 owen I guess an extra <tbody> is perfectly valid :| 14:27 * owen finds it... a stray <tbody> 14:26 owen I've heard there's a cure, but it takes about 7 hours to work. 14:26 kf yep 14:25 owen That's the cause? :) 14:25 kf owen: friday 14:25 owen I've checked that the plugins are there, I've checked that my markup is valid, I've looked at the source for clues... 14:24 sekjal owen: irregularities in the data it's trying to sort? (shot in the dark) 14:22 owen Grrr... why does the tablesorter plugin sometimes just not work? 14:18 paul_p there is a DrupalCon in London where we plan to go in a few months too ! 14:14 * owen is looking forward to that 14:13 owen Actually, my next trip will be to Chicago for the Drupal conference. 14:12 owen I'll get a plane ticket right away! 14:12 paul_p owen, remember me that I owe you at least 2 trucks full of beer next time I see you!!! 14:11 paul_p owen++ 14:11 paul_p bonjour jwagner 14:07 jwagner Bonjour paul_p 14:03 owen paul_p: I hope to do more testing and patching today 14:03 paul_p 'morning america ! 14:02 paul_p owen, thx for 5575 13:48 * jwagner puts a big basket of cookies out for a Friday treat 13:39 kf and she is not here 13:38 kf and didn't want to break more than I already did... 13:38 kf nengard: i was not sure if the checks were case-sensitive 13:29 kmkale its bettr in Thaqne since we are out of Mumbai and there is a big National park hill between Thane and Mumbai :) 13:28 munin kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 27.0�C (6:40 PM IST on January 21, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). 13:28 kmkale @weather Mumbai 13:28 owen How's the weather where you are kmkale? :) 13:28 kmkale hi jwagner 13:28 kmkale hi owen 13:22 owen paul_p: I will try to clarify the status of bug5575 13:21 jwagner Only in comparison to you :-) Still pretty chilly, and with a lot of wind. But we lucked out & didn't get much in the way of snow last night. 13:20 owen Sounds like shorts weather jwagner! 13:20 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is -0.5�C (8:22 AM EST on January 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Rising). 13:20 jwagner @wunder 20817 13:20 munin owen: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -11.0�C (8:18 AM EST on January 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 13:20 owen @wunder 45701 11:27 kf normally everythign should work, but you never know 11:20 deejay_hr we're a rather small library 11:20 deejay_hr well, I'll inform the head librarian and the tech guy, but somehow I doubt we'll do much testing hehe 11:18 kf this would be a big update - needs serious testing 11:18 kf seems the bug was finally fixed in 3.2 release 11:18 munin 04Bug 4036: blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Two conditions missing from circ template messages: USERBLOCKEDOVERDUE and USERBLOCKEDREMAINING 11:18 kf http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4036 11:18 deejay_hr hmm 11:16 kf check if you have accidently added a value to fine days 11:16 kf http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Help-An-unknown-yellow-box-td3061893.html 11:16 kf perhaps this could help too: 11:14 kf hm. 11:12 deejay_hr well they say patience is a virtue 11:12 deejay_hr but if it's an overdue problem, how do we test it without waiting lol 11:11 kf update a test installation first, before production 11:11 deejay_hr yeah, I kind of assumed that our tech upgraded it, but I guess he didn't 11:11 kf you should always try with a test installation first 11:11 kf so I hope it would help 11:11 kf if this is the bug - ubt I have not seen this behaviour on our installations 11:10 deejay_hr thanks for the info 11:10 deejay_hr I'll see what I can do about that 11:10 deejay_hr allright, so upgrade is a possible fix 11:10 kf hm yes, I would think so 11:10 kf and it didn't 11:10 kf I remember that the box should ask something like: this person has overdues, do you want to checkout anyway? 11:10 deejay_hr but if you return or renew, shouldn't that reset it? 11:09 deejay_hr overdues could be a problem 11:09 kf updating to 3.0.6 > 3.2.2 could be a way to solve this 11:09 deejay_hr so we need to upgrade? 11:09 kf that's an old version 11:09 kf have the users items due on that day? not overdue, but due? or overdue? 11:08 deejay_hr 3.00.04.019 11:08 deejay_hr one sec 11:08 kf this sounds like an old but familiar bug 11:08 kf which version of koha are you using? 11:08 deejay_hr and you can't check it out 11:08 deejay_hr when you tried to check out a book to certain users, an empty yellow box would appear 11:08 deejay_hr recently koha has been acting up with circulation 11:07 deejay_hr I'm sure the question has already been asked, and there's probably an answer somewhere, but I don't have the time to dig through the internet 11:07 kf :) 11:07 deejay_hr thanks 11:06 kf deejay_hr: here is always someone around - just ask your question 11:06 deejay_hr if someone is around, I could use a little bit of assistance 11:05 deejay_hr Hello 10:36 kf hdl++ 10:25 kf ah, I see you solved some conflicts already 10:24 kf does it need to be rebased? 10:24 kf if I get it working I can sign off on it 10:24 kf thx a lot hdl 10:23 hdl sending you a how to 10:23 kf can you say something about configuration? how is it activated? 10:23 hdl It requires to add some tools 10:23 kf it's ok - I will try google translate 10:23 hdl Sorry. 10:23 hdl commit log is in french. 10:22 kf sorry hdl, had a phone conference and a meeting - checking now 09:40 hdl kf: have you received my email ? 09:17 markk i was wondering where can i find a tutorial or program to modify the theme/look of the web interface OPAC/Staff ... does anyone habe any idea about it? 09:15 markk hello all!! 08:41 hdl kf: just sent you the patch for 3M sensitization. 08:29 wasabi http://search.cpan.org/~gmcharlt/MARC-Record-2.0.3/lib/MARC/Record.pm 08:28 wasabi perl's marc::record is what the pros use ;) 08:28 ephazz let me see marcedit can do for be back in a sec 08:27 wasabi yeah, most people use marcedit to manipulate their bibs before a koha import 08:26 kf you can work with search and replace, swap fields and such 08:25 * wasabi 's never used marcedit 08:25 kf I think in marcedit is documentation about using the edit functions 08:25 kf you might want to check 952$t for one of your fields 08:24 ephazz any documentation for marcedit regarding this 08:23 kf it's a good tool to work with marc data 08:23 kf but you can use maredit to swap fields and such 08:23 kf you have to make your data fit into koha's scheme for item data 08:23 kf you don't link them with maredit 08:22 ephazz now is there documentation detailing hw to link all the sub fields using maredit? 08:22 kf wasabi: still frustrated I killed my ubuntu :( 08:22 kf hi wasabi 08:22 wasabi s/of/or/ 08:22 kf for example append classification part to call number prefix and save item part into copy 08:22 wasabi heya kf 08:22 wasabi of at least, you shouldnt :) 08:22 kf but combine them with marcedit into one field 08:21 kf no, you can't do that 08:21 wasabi you cant map 3 subfields to a single subfield, afaik 08:21 kf not barcodes...call numbers 08:21 kf I don't know how your barcodes look like - perhaps you can use copy for item part 08:21 kf was looking it up right now 08:21 kf ah ok 08:21 ephazz no o is full call number 08:20 kf ephazz: we have different structures here - but I think you have to combine your differnt parts into one callnumber - but isn't o barcode? 08:10 ephazz i need to map 852khi to koha 952o hw is this done 07:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5439 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, 3M RFID sensitization 07:53 kf wrong number, bug 5439 07:52 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3439 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, opac-main.tmpl references unused "recentacquiloop" 07:52 kf bug 3439 07:50 kf and the bug number on the wiki is wrong - wanted to correct that but where can I do that - I only see {{{bug}}} in the code. hm. 07:48 kf because we have a library that will use 3M and I will get one of their devices for testing next week (hopefully) 07:47 kf wanted to ask you about http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hook-up_with_3M_sensitization_solution 07:47 kf hm not really :) 07:47 hdl so kind of you ;) 07:46 kf I was thinking about you right now :) 07:46 kf hi hdl 07:46 hdl hi 07:30 kf hi Amit 07:30 Amit heya kf 07:24 kf good morning #koha 07:06 Amit hello all 07:01 francharb heelo all 05:51 Amit heya all 03:52 Oak \o