Time Nick Message 00:13 chris heya druthb 00:20 druthb hi, chris! :D 00:21 chris another busy week? 00:22 druthb brisk, to be sure. 00:23 * druthb waves to Nate. :) 00:47 hudsonbot Starting build 42 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:00 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #42: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/42/ 01:00 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: add opacpublic preference 01:00 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: move opacpublic description to bullet point 01:20 havergara hello everyone...!:) 02:05 ebegin Any good source about the official way to display a bib record with the right syntax ? 02:05 ebegin I would like to know how should be display a title and subtitles when there is more than one subtitle... 02:06 ebegin (i just discovered that the subtitle was a repeatable field). :) 02:37 ebegin gmcharlt, around ? 02:39 wasabi ebegin: the display of repeating authors and titles is prolly still a little patchy 02:39 ebegin wasabi, but what should be the ideal way to display it? 02:39 ebegin I'm looking for a example. 02:40 wasabi the way your clients wants it displayed, is the correct answer :) 02:40 ebegin TITLE / SUBTITLE, SUBTITLE, SUBTITLE. ? 02:40 ebegin I'm sure there is a standard way... 02:41 wasabi yep, that way is what i prefer 02:43 wasabi nicole or liz prolly have an opinion on that 02:46 ebegin agree... :) thanks 02:53 ebegin gmcharlt, is there a way for field->subfields to returns an array? Right now, if we have a repeated subfield, it returns the values joined with |, eg [ 'x', 'Computer|Learning' ] (probably because it uses a map)... 02:54 ebegin I'm looking to get one line for each. eg ('x', 'computer', 'x', 'Learning') 03:11 Brooke kia ora 03:32 chris http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/299425/japan-extends-aid-aurora 03:32 chris check out the last paragraph 03:54 Oak \o 04:46 moodaepo @wunder 56001 04:46 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -16.4�C (10:47 PM CST on January 19, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect from noon Thursday to 9 am CST Friday... 05:21 havergara how will i make my koha 3.0 to display the fines properly? 05:22 havergara my fines charge computation is working properly, but the problem is, the charge thats shows is only on the total, the charge per item/material doesnt show... 06:14 cait morning #koha :) 06:47 CIA-1 Koha: 03paul.poulain 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-564-g2eb36a7 10/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/img/itemtypeimg/carredart/ (15 files): Bug5640: BZ5640 (MT3584): Nimes icon set 06:48 CIA-1 Koha: 03paul.poulain 07new/enh/bug_5634 * rv3.02.00-565-g129f05a 10/C4/Branch.pm: Bug 5634: BZ5634 order branch list alphabetically, without taking care of uc/lc 06:48 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5634 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, ordering branches cas independant 06:57 CIA-1 Koha: 03chansey.killer 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-566-g669280c 10/t/db_dependent/Accounts.t: Bug 5327 Made test file for Accounts.pm 06:57 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules 07:02 francharb hi all 07:08 chris hi francharb 07:13 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-567-g1c89ce3 10/t/db_dependent/Members.t: Bug 5327: small typo in the Members.t test 07:13 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules 07:19 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327: small typo in the Members.t test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c89ce34b914cd5247cb6103b9bda5cde9720dcb> / Bug 5327 Made test file for Accounts.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=669280c7ab200637f06a5b6852409f7207f68403> / Bug 5634: BZ5634 order branch list alphabetically, without taking care of uc/lc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g 07:30 hudsonbot Starting build 309 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #307 23 hr ago) 07:45 kf gooood morning #koha .) 07:48 chris the campaigning has begun 07:48 kf kohacon? 07:49 kf pakistan, india, uk and california? 07:49 kf wow 07:55 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #309: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/309/ 07:55 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: Bug5640: BZ5640 (MT3584): Nimes icon set 07:55 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: Bug 5634: BZ5634 order branch list alphabetically, without taking care of uc/lc 07:55 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 Made test file for Accounts.pm 07:55 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: small typo in the Members.t test 07:56 chris i love hudson 07:56 chris http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/(root)/xt_author_icondirectories_t/staff_and_OPAC_icon_directories_have_same_contents/ 07:57 chris caught a problem with the new icons 07:57 * chris fixes 08:02 kf :) 08:04 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_5640 * rv3.02.00-565-g91906e1 10/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/itemtypeimg/carredart/ (15 files): Bug 5640: Adding the icons to the opac also 08:04 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5640 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, additional icons set from Nimes 08:06 chris and updated my script so it will catch that before i push in the future 08:09 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5640' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0f712fa184adc51296c2e1fecf26caa2bee4e14> / Bug 5640: Adding the icons to the opac also <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=91906e1d030f04a37ae4247f4cf19c59ecd50f15> / Bug5640: BZ5640 (MT3584): Nimes icon set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5483 08:14 hdl hi 08:14 ibot what's up, hdl 08:15 hudsonbot Starting build 310 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #307 1 day 0 hr ago) 08:20 chris hi hdl, the number of connections from the same ip has been upped now, so you should no longer have to use mibbit 08:20 hdl chris++ rus++ rach++ 08:21 hdl thanks. 08:22 hdl I will have a day off today. So won't be able to check. But it will be a pleasure for paul and our co-workers. 08:22 chris ahh, taking a holiday? 08:23 hdl sort of 08:37 kf hm holiday++ 08:39 chris :) 08:40 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed! 08:40 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #310: FIXED in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/310/ 08:40 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: Bug5640: BZ5640 (MT3584): Nimes icon set 08:40 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5640: Adding the icons to the opac also 08:50 chris yippie :) 09:01 kf !hudson botsnack cookie 09:01 hudsonbot kf: you're so kind to me! I just love cookie! 09:02 kf_mtg chris snack cookie ;) 09:03 chris om nom nom 10:25 marcelr hi koha: have a question on editing updatedatabase.pl; should I add version XXX or number+1 right away; is this documented somewhere; couldn't find it.. 10:25 chris XXX 10:25 marcelr ok 10:27 chris its number will depend on when i merge it 10:28 * chris goes to sleep 11:14 praba hi i need to test sms notifications in koha .. can anyone help me out in this regard? 11:21 soomro Im installing koha on ubuntu 11:21 soomro I need help regarding sudo deselect 11:21 soomro can any body help me? 11:21 soomro Im unable to complete sudo deselect 11:23 soomro can any body? 11:23 wasabi whats the error...? 11:25 wasabi soomro: use these instructions for installing on ubuntu... 11:25 wasabi http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid 11:55 praba anyone used sms notifications ? 11:59 wasabi praba: no, not with koha 12:03 wasabi i would give this a go, 1st 12:03 wasabi http://packages.debian.org/lenny/smsclient 12:06 praba <wasabi> thanks a lot.. But i need to test it out .. can u give some idea to implement it? 12:08 wasabi sms on koha? nope - ive never used it 12:09 wasabi i would focus on getting sms sending from your server 1st, then koha 12:18 druthb mornin', #koha 13:42 atz wasabi, probably soomro's problem is that it is sudo dselect 13:42 atz not "deselect" 13:46 kf atz: another problem can be that the package for dselect is not installed 13:46 kf I have run into that on ubuntu 13:48 atz right 14:19 sekjal druthb++ (for scripting something I've been doing manually all these months) 14:19 druthb Thanx, sekjal! :) 14:23 jwagner @karma druthb 14:23 munin jwagner: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 53 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 53. 14:23 jwagner Harrumph! 14:24 druthb @karma jwagner 14:24 munin druthb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 51 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 51. 14:24 druthb :D 14:31 * sekjal has severe 'mad scientist' hair today 14:32 druthb There would be a really good reason for that, Ian. 14:32 * druthb hands sekjal his lab coat. 14:33 druthb @karma sekjal 14:33 munin druthb: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 58 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 57. 14:33 druthb hm. hard target. 15:02 * kf whispers to munin druthb++ 15:03 * druthb wonders if munin heard that. 15:03 druthb @karma druthb 15:03 munin druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 54 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 54. 15:03 druthb be danged. he did. 15:40 owen What'd I miss? 15:42 kf not much I think, very silent today 15:59 kf leaving - bye all :) 16:51 wizzyrea not that it particularly matters but http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5411 is still causing me consternation 16:51 munin 04Bug 5411: major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Existing renewal rules are not translated into new rule structure on upgrade 16:52 cait hmI thought that was solved 16:53 cait wizzyrea: we came from a 3.1.61 - it seemed to work there - perhaps you want to check the updatedatabase there? 16:53 cait or I am confusing with maxreserves - no way to check from here 16:54 wizzyrea max reserves seemed to come over 16:54 wizzyrea I came from a 3.00.00 16:54 wizzyrea basically, if there are no special rules for those itypes defined 16:55 wizzyrea for other factors 16:55 wizzyrea the renewal rules are not preserved 16:55 chris you might want to go to 3.0.6, then to 3.3.x 16:56 wizzyrea hmm 16:57 chris id be pleasantly suprised if 3.0.0 to 3.3.x worked without going to 3.0.6 first 16:57 wizzyrea interesting. 16:57 wizzyrea most everything else seems to work 16:58 chris it is going up a ton of db revisions in one hit 16:59 wizzyrea yep, the list was pretty long. 16:59 cait hm, ubuntu question: I added a second screen - it worked for a minute, now I see the same on both... not what I wanted 16:59 cait and ubuntu tells me screen uknown :( 16:59 cait any idea about that? 17:00 chris nope 17:00 chris well, too many ideas to be useful really 17:00 cait hm ok 17:00 cait I disconnected it and ubuntu still says screen unknown 17:00 cait so it's maybe talking about the screen of the laptop? 17:01 cait perhaps another reason to buy a new laptop... 17:02 chris its more likely its the window manager or xwindows not recognising the screen than the os, you could try restarting the window manager ( sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ) 17:05 cait you could have warned me ;) 17:05 cait no change 17:05 druthb @roulette 17:05 munin druthb: *click* 17:06 druthb @roulette 17:06 * munin reloads and spins the chambers. 17:07 cait @ 17:20 owen chris: The patch I just submitted is specifically for new/awaiting_qa/enh/bug_5575 17:23 chris righto owen 17:23 sekjal wow, I can actually see the bottom of my inbox 17:23 wizzyrea it has a bottom? 17:24 sekjal wizzyrea: well, technically no, but all the messages are on a single page 17:25 chris owen: applied and pushed 17:26 owen sekjal: That's as close to inbox zero as I get 17:26 chris im inbox 278 17:26 chris if im below 1000 its a good week 17:27 sekjal both my regular and starred emails are below their pagination limits, so I'm pretty pleased. 17:27 rhcl Anybody know of any alternatives to OverDrive? 17:27 sekjal list-minimization is one of my favourite games 17:28 chris oh you mean your personal one? thats at inbox 50 million or something 17:28 chris i just was looking at my @catalyst one 17:29 sekjal chris: I mean my work email 17:29 sekjal my person one has been pretty well kept clean 17:29 chris oh, you are one of these people who trust the cloud enough to put their work emails in it 17:29 chris ive heard of you guys ;) 17:30 * chris is a paranoid fool 17:30 wizzyrea nah, the rules still don't come over even going through 3.0.6 17:30 sekjal we're a silly breed 17:30 chris i run offlineimap to make sure i have a local copy of all my gmail stuff 17:31 wizzyrea rhcl: let me know when you find one. 17:31 chris or 3 copies as the case may be 17:31 wizzyrea same sympton 17:31 wizzyrea m 17:31 chris rhcl: isnt the libraryworld building one? 17:31 wizzyrea meh. I'll just fix it. 17:31 chris and send a patch wizzyrea ? 17:31 chris :) 17:32 wizzyrea well I meant manually fix the rules, but maybe 17:32 chris rhcl: some sekrit squirrel thing before christmas thats now been announced properly ... can anyone remember what it was called 17:32 rhcl OK, I was going to go pvt with wizzy on the subject, but I'll stay on main and try not to swear...too much. 17:32 chris i bet it had library in it? 17:33 chris i was unimpressed because it took no stand on drm, thats all i remember 17:33 wizzyrea gah I can't remember what it was 17:33 rhcl "Our library" planned, bought and paid for OverDrive without me even knowing. 17:33 wizzyrea !! 17:33 chris yikes 17:33 rhcl OD requires MS Internet Explorer, at least for staff use. I'm royally *****-off about that. 17:33 chris yeah OD is crap, it really has no redeeming features] 17:34 chris apart from the fact it exists 17:34 wizzyrea it's quite bd 17:34 wizzyrea bad 17:34 rhcl Well, if you want the latest and greatest Allstar MacLane novel, it seems to be the only game in town. 17:34 wizzyrea ks has a statewide 17:34 wizzyrea sub to it 17:34 chris *nod* 17:34 wizzyrea and it's so hard to get epubs off of, that it's practically pointless to try 17:34 chris locked down monopolies always create the best stuff 17:35 wizzyrea they've finally kind of figured out audiobooks, that works well enough 17:35 rhcl OK, I have to live with that maybe, but having to use IE is too much. 17:35 wizzyrea can you trick it? 17:35 wizzyrea or does it actually really need IE 17:35 rhcl I haven't tried changing the id string. 17:35 chris might be poxy activex 17:36 rhcl I'd rather bitch and moan for a while. 17:36 wizzyrea and wtf could IE have that it would require. 17:36 wizzyrea activex I guess 17:36 rhcl activex? 17:36 wizzyrea activehax is more like it 17:36 chris or silverlight 17:36 wizzyrea mmm silverlight works on chrome 17:36 wizzyrea err 17:36 chris or whatever that other pile of crap they came up with is called 17:36 wizzyrea well 17:36 wizzyrea revision 17:36 cait what did I miss? 17:36 cait ;) 17:36 wizzyrea netflix requires silverlight 17:36 wizzyrea netflix now works on chrome 17:37 wizzyrea but it could be an alternate delivery method 17:37 chris id hope so 17:37 chris but yeah, tell chromium or firefox to pretend its ie 17:37 chris worth a shot 17:37 wizzyrea ^^ 17:38 chris or you could just run ie, get all the computers in the library owned 17:38 chris with the latest 0day 17:38 chris and then go quietly mad in the corner 17:38 wizzyrea poxy 17:38 * wizzyrea just caught that, giggled 17:39 rhcl You know, you really don't see that many web sites anymore coming directly from closed, underground bunkers, and for a service that supposedly serves a library system that is supposed to offer "open access" to info... 17:39 chris *nod* 17:39 wizzyrea closed undergroud bunkers that apparently have very bad UPS's 17:39 wizzyrea overdrive was down for like 3 days last week because their datacenter had no power 17:39 chris groundhogs 17:40 chris ibot:excuse ? 17:40 * wizzyrea could spend all day making snide comments about overdrive 17:40 chris doh 17:40 chris dont try to 17:40 chris make ibot look up excuses apparently 17:40 wizzyrea lol 17:40 owen chris, you blew ibot's mind 17:40 wizzyrea i miss ibot 17:41 chris now the problem is 17:41 chris its written in perl 17:41 chris so i have the compulsive urge to fix it 17:42 chris so bear with me as it crashes a few times 17:42 chris ib: excuse 17:42 ibot chris: We only support a 1200 bps connection. 17:42 chris or not 17:42 chris fixed first go :) 17:42 chris ib: excuse 17:42 ibot chris: microelectronic Riemannian curved-space fault in write-only file system 17:42 chris now i can answer all my workrequests again :) 17:42 owen ibot:excuse ? 17:42 ibot owen: Someone else stole your IP address, call the Internet detectives! 17:43 cait excuse? 17:43 ibot cait: Dyslexics retyping hosts file on servers 17:44 chris ibot 17:44 ibot chris? 17:44 chris ibot: karma for overdrive? 17:44 ibot i haven't a clue, chris 17:44 chris ibot: karma for overdrive 17:44 ibot overdrive has neutral karma 17:44 chris overdrive-- 17:44 chris soon fix that 17:44 chris @karma overdrive 17:44 munin chris: Karma for "overdrive" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. 17:44 chris ibot: karma for overdrive 17:44 ibot overdrive has karma of -1 17:44 rhcl overdrive-- 17:45 rhcl @karma overdrive 17:45 munin rhcl: Karma for "overdrive" has been increased 0 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of -2. 17:45 owen suddenly git send-email is giving me an error I've never seen: "The following files are 8bit, but do not declare a Content-Transfer-Encoding." 17:46 chris what are the files its trying to send? 17:47 owen Nothing special, just a patch on a single tmpl file 17:47 chris thats a weird one alright 17:48 chris ahh have you done the utf8 thingy? 17:48 owen I get this prompt: Which 8bit encoding should I declare [UTF-8]? 17:48 owen What thingy? 17:50 owen git config --global format.headers etc. etc. ? 17:50 owen I did at one time... 17:50 chris git config --global format.headers "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"utf-8\"" 17:50 chris yeah 17:51 chris im out of ideas then 17:52 briceSanc hello all 17:54 owen Hi briceSanc 17:56 cait restarting one last time... 17:56 chris hi briceSanc 17:56 briceSanc do you have the same problem ? : i have plenty of " /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f " running in process ! 17:56 briceSanc is it normal ? 17:57 chris do you only have 1 koha instance? 17:57 briceSanc yes 17:57 briceSanc i use zebrasrv and zebradaemon 17:57 briceSanc zebraqueue 17:58 chris there should only be 1 running 17:59 chris on one of my servers i have 8, but there are 8 different koha instances there, so one each (different config files) 17:59 chris so no, its not normal 18:01 briceSanc ok 18:01 chris are they all S or R (ie no D or Z processes?) 18:01 briceSanc Can they all kill themselves? 18:01 chris i doubt it 18:02 chris you have to figure out how that many got started firstly 18:02 briceSanc they are all S 18:03 chris then i have no idea why you have so many running 18:03 * chris has to go get ready for work, bbiab 18:03 schuster rchl - you might look into ingram - they have a great audio book collection and isn't nearly as expensive. 18:04 schuster that should have been rhcl... catching up on my reading. 18:06 briceSanc chris, I did nothing and they all disappeared 18:07 briceSanc chris, Do they appear when we are doing research with zebra and disappear soon after? 18:09 cait hmpf 18:09 cait ok;I give up. 18:10 cait no extended desktop on this laptop 18:22 * sekjal is enjoying some tea (Earl Grey, hot), and thinking of Star Trek: TNG 18:22 chris briceSanc: ah yes, that could well be it :) 18:22 * chris is thinking about kohacon11 18:23 chris and how sad it is, that due to the political situation, holding it in either india or pakistan pretty much precludes the other from attending 18:24 chris from what i understand it is very hard to get a visa to travel between the 2 18:24 * chris hopes he is utterly wrong 18:27 sekjal I'd love the chance to see either nation (or both!), but yeah, it could get sticky 18:28 chris yeah 18:29 * druthb would have to think hard about going either place. There are risks that may well be unacceptably high for me. 18:29 druthb (though I'm sure both are wonderful places, all in all) 18:30 chris i do think that having some regional ones as well is a darn good idea 18:30 chris us has the kudos conf 18:31 chris and altho a dev conf is not being organised as part of that, heck this is free software, that can be modified :) 18:31 chris im planning to be in the US in june ... hint hint 18:31 chris ;) 18:32 druthb :D 18:32 * druthb is thinking that a dev conference around ALA.... 18:32 chris works for me 18:33 druthb At the very least, a late-night hackfest or two... 18:33 chris i have 3 conf booked in this year 18:33 chris kiwifoo next month 18:33 chris ala in june 18:33 chris and access in october 18:33 chris and then wherever kohacon is, ill probably end up there too 18:34 chris i think this time, ill try to get my parents to look after the kids, and laurel and I can go 18:35 briceSanc chris, ok thanks ! 18:35 chris druthb: i like that idea, late night hackfests 18:36 druthb We did that at the ByWater staff meetup, and got a lot of mileage out of it for us. Not a lotta code, but was more chalk-talk kinds of stuff. 18:36 chris i know that biblibre were thinking about the idea of a european get together in march i think 18:36 chris to bug squash for 3.4 18:36 chris which i think is a tremendous idea 18:37 chris and transatlantic flights are many :) 18:37 chris druthb: thats often more important 18:37 chris be back in 5 mins or so, from on the bus 18:45 chris Back 18:45 druthb :) 18:47 chris So the students have gotten us up to 49.9% subroutine coverage 18:48 druthb yay! 18:48 chris If we crack 50 they get cake 18:48 chris Only have this morning tho 18:48 chris Tokemon this afternoon 18:49 * druthb would get out her cheerleading costume, if it'd help. 18:50 chris :) 18:51 chris https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/tokemon-2/ 18:51 chris The organisers of kiwicon are running a cut down version of this 18:53 ibeardsle .. we'll be looking for unprompted feedback and thanks to go into press releases ;) 18:56 chris :) 18:56 chris ibeardsle: I'm planning a writeup for the koha newsletter 18:57 chris Which goes out next week 18:57 chris Might try and get quotes from the kids today 18:57 chris After I feed them cake of course :) 18:58 * chris loves irc on the bus 18:58 chris Are u in at work already? 18:58 ibeardsle yep 18:58 chris Jeepers 18:59 ibeardsle be good to get some comments from people using koha about the work the students have done as well 18:59 chris Oh good idea 18:59 chris I wonder if owen has time to look at the icon set? 18:59 chris @seen owen? 18:59 munin chris: I have not seen owen?. 18:59 chris @seen owen 18:59 munin chris: owen was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <owen> Hi briceSanc 19:00 * owen is here 19:01 chris Cool 19:01 chris The is a branch I pushed on Wednesday lemme find it 19:01 chris Bug 5689 19:01 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5689 was not found. 19:01 chris Hmm 19:02 owen Bug 5628? 19:02 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5628 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, New Icon set, Liblime Kids icons resized and transparent backgrounds made 19:02 chris That's it :) 19:03 chris @seen chris_n 19:03 munin chris: chris_n was last seen in #koha 1 day, 1 hour, 28 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <chris_n> @quote add chris: friends don't let friends use proprietary software. 19:03 owen chris: I looked at it and commented 19:03 chris Heh 19:03 chris Ohh cool thanks 19:04 cait now I have kille it - both screens black... 19:04 cait hmpf! 19:04 chris Right I can group them up 19:05 chris but I think making a new set was pretty decent for a young woman new to koha, git, linux etc 19:06 owen That's how I got started: Doing the things I knew how to do and working from there 19:06 wizzyrea_ agreed on that point for sure 19:06 chris Ohh can I quote that owen? 19:06 owen Sure 19:06 chris Sweet 19:07 chris Ill group and push soon as I get to my desk 19:08 chris Now who can I bully into quoting on the unit tests? :) 19:09 chris My stop, ill leave you to ponder that 19:09 chris Bbiab 19:20 * owen is glad sekjal filed Bug 5645, noticed that the other day. 19:20 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5645 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Z39.50 search from search results not parsing query correctly 19:21 jcamins Hello, #koha 19:21 druthb hi, jcamins! 19:27 sekjal I think I've found the line in C4/Search.pm that's causing the problem with the above-referenced bug 19:30 sekjal the $query_desc variable isn't a ref unless it's greater than 1 index 19:31 sekjal but $query_desc is just a string.... a human-readable string 19:31 sekjal hmmmm..... 19:41 sekjal that's why; it's silly 19:41 sekjal I think I got it 19:51 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_5628 * rv3.02.00-563-gab2f589 10/koha-tmpl/ (112 files in 4 dirs): Bug 5268: Combining icons with liblime-kids 19:51 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5268 minor, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Language Issue: Debarred 19:54 owen Looks good chris 19:54 chris sweet thanks owen 19:55 chris pushed up your 5575 patches 19:56 owen Thanks 20:01 jcamins chris: do you know if bug 5551 is just waiting for a sign-off? 20:01 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5551 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, The shelf browser should be able to ignore things like location 20:02 chris lemme look 20:10 chris jcamins: sure looks that way 20:10 jcamins Okay. 20:10 jcamins Thanks. 20:30 * jcamins eagerly awaits the day when updatedatabase.pl disappears. 20:31 hudsonbot Starting build 311 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) 20:32 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5628' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a787b54bd96535dbc66efbf07a98f658169231c2> / Bug 5268: Combining icons with liblime-kids <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab2f589ec70f056a51e74e1c93abce29e61c9abd> / New icon set, renaming and making files in the intranet too <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; 20:33 chris jcamins: its on my list to do 20:35 chris http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=lib/Koha/Schema;h=f04cfa39433ef6a18d19523f3e8197d62676d5c8;hb=e28ead9cc0b5b9341c1398e8354ca285574e3f9a 20:35 chris i started a long time ago 20:35 chris http://search.cpan.org/~abraxxa/DBIx-Class-0.08127/lib/DBIx/Class/Schema/Versioned.pm 20:35 chris if you want to read that 20:35 chris thats how im thinking to try doing it 20:37 jcamins Why not DBIx::Class::DeploymentHandler (I know nothing about the subject, I'm just reading the "See Also") 20:38 jcamins ... ? 20:38 jcamins Sorry, that question mark was a bit delayed. 20:40 chris it pulls in moose and half the damn world 20:40 jcamins Ah. 20:40 jcamins A postmodern object system? 20:40 jcamins I don't even know what that means. 20:41 chris its cool, for starting a new project, but for just doing the schema deployment way overkill 20:43 owen @wunder 45701 20:43 munin owen: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -2.0�C (3:35 PM EST on January 20, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 7 am EST Friday... 20:43 druthb @wunder 20852 20:43 munin druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 4.9�C (3:40 PM EST on January 20, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady). 20:43 * owen hopes the roads will be clear in the morning 20:48 jcamins @wunder 11105 20:48 munin jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 0.1�C (3:45 PM EST on January 20, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 9 PM this evening to 8 am EST Friday... 20:48 * jcamins too - he's not sure what happens if it snows 20:52 wizzyrea_ ah you're getting the rest of our snow 20:52 CIA-1 Koha: 03joseph.zachariah.sim 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-575-g434d9a3 10/t/Output_JSONStream.t: Bug 5327: Added unit tests to Output_JSONStream.t 20:52 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules 20:53 * jwagner tempts fate and does happy dance -- I _think_ my massive four-week-long data mapping project is done.... 20:53 owen wizzyrea_: You didn't need to save us any you know 20:53 ibeardsle just done get carried away and trip over the power cord crashing the disk and losing everything 20:53 jwagner yeah, wizzyrea_, don't be so generous! 20:54 * wizzyrea_ is happy to be generous, sad that it's snow though 20:55 * druthb is headed off to dinner. see y'all soon! 20:57 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #311: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/311/ 20:57 hudsonbot * claudia: New icon set for kids, has ben rezided to 48 by 48px 20:57 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: New icon set, renaming and making files in the intranet too 20:57 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5268: Combining icons with liblime-kids 20:58 hudsonbot Starting build 312 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:02 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327: Added unit tests to Output_JSONStream.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=434d9a3c66c54c028c971a0bd59312d099ba358a> 21:05 jcamins Okay, what makes the OPAC show zero holdings in detail view, but correctly show items in the search results? 21:05 wizzyrea_ lol we were talking about that yesterday, speculation pointed to the indexes 21:06 wizzyrea_ er wait 21:06 jcamins No, that doesn't sound right. That makes it sound like I didn't do something dumb. 21:06 wizzyrea_ our problem was opposite that: no holdings in results but holdings show in detail 21:06 jcamins I'm pretty sure this is a misconfiguration on my part. 21:07 jcamins Oh, I think I know what it is. 21:07 jcamins I think I probably needed to have the library defined *before* importing the items. 21:08 wizzyrea_ oh, yes, that seems likely :P 21:10 jcamins Yeah, that fixed it. 21:10 jcamins Ooh. 21:10 jcamins This is very nice. 21:10 jcamins Who redid the Holdings table? 21:17 wizzyrea_ depends, which part do you like? 21:17 wizzyrea_ opac or staff? 21:17 jcamins The shelving location is now in italic underneath the library name. 21:17 jcamins OPAC. 21:17 wizzyrea_ that was probably owen :) 21:18 wizzyrea_ always thinkin that one ;) 21:18 jcamins owen++ # for probably making the Holdings table much nicer 21:22 sekjal goodnight, #koha 21:24 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #312: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/312/ 21:24 hudsonbot Zach Sim: Bug 5327: Added unit tests to Output_JSONStream.t 21:29 rhcl From: OverDrive 21:29 rhcl Does the following make any sense to programmers? 21:29 rhcl Content Reserve requires Internet 21:29 rhcl Explorer 5.5 or higher because Content Reserve employs some protocols (for 21:29 rhcl example, JavaScript in html/css, ActiveX controls) that require IE 5.5 (or 21:29 rhcl higher). 21:30 jcamins Who administers koha-patches? 21:30 rhcl I guess it's the activex that's the problem 21:30 jcamins rhcl: ick. Well, at least everyone using IE is going to have 5.5 or higher... 21:32 chris 50.1% !!! 21:32 chris jcamins: biblibre 21:32 chris and rhcl what that tells me is 21:33 chris From: Overdrive 21:33 jcamins chris: I hope you're not saying that 49.9% of IE users have version 5.0 or earlier. 21:33 chris Hi 21:33 chris Our developers are lazy 21:33 chris kthxbye 21:34 chris jcamins: subroutine coverage by unit tests 21:34 chris http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/HTML_Report/? 21:35 jcamins @later tell hdl If you have a patch from me which is inline in an e-mail awaiting moderation to koha-patches, please delete it. I sent it wrong. 21:35 munin jcamins: The operation succeeded. 21:35 jcamins chris: woohoo! 21:36 chris we start this week with 1209 covered 21:36 chris 1293 now 21:36 chris hoping to hit 1300 by lunch 21:40 jcamins chris: this time I remembered to set the status of the bug to signed-off. 21:41 chris :-) 21:41 chris yep it pinged me 21:41 chris ill take a look and push it 21:41 jcamins :D 21:41 chris you confirm its working ok eh? 21:41 jcamins Yup. 21:42 * chris knows it works fine at catalyst 21:42 jcamins I really like it. 21:42 chris sweet good enough for me 21:52 jcamins Okay, I need opinions. 21:52 jcamins @marc 852 21:52 munin jcamins: Identifies the organization holding the item or from which it is available. May also contain detailed information about how to locate the item in a collection. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,p,q,s,t,u,x,z,2,3,6,8] 21:52 wizzyrea_ Blue, it's the new red 21:53 jcamins Should it be added to the Zebra index. 21:53 jcamins *? 21:53 jcamins Sneaky question mark, always eluding me today. 21:54 jcamins The ANS uses that index, and I'm trying to figure out whether that patch should be submitted or not. 22:00 hudsonbot Starting build 313 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:01 jcamins [crickets] 22:01 gmcharlt lazyweb question - are there any decent "powered by Koha" web badges floating around? 22:01 chris hmm i think so 22:01 * jcamins just borrowed the CSS from someone else's catalog 22:02 wasabi http://www.library.org.nz/ has one? 22:02 gmcharlt jcamins: I'm not so sure - if one is sure that the 852s are in fact years, sure, but indexing random 852s that you happen to have imported might not be so useful 22:02 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Added more unit tests to check when JSONStream should fail. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f0f2e297a7d7e51dc7503493025c14d39944757> 22:02 gmcharlt jcamins: that said, I've no objection to a new index on that 22:03 jcamins gmcharlt: yeah, this is where the ability to define indexes in the staff client would come in handy. 22:03 * jcamins thinks he may have stolen the CSS from library.org.nz. 22:11 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_5551 * rv3.02.00-577-g88601b7 10/ (installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl kohaversion.pl): Bumping Koha version 22:17 wizzyrea_ jcamins: I made the gnocchi again 22:17 wizzyrea_ ubernoms 22:17 jcamins wizzyrea_: I love those gnocchi. 22:17 jcamins I should make gnocchi again soon. 22:19 jcamins After we move, I think. 22:21 cait I killed my ubuntu :( 22:22 jcamins cait: oh no! 22:22 jcamins What happened to it? 22:22 cait never managed to kill a windoes - but killed my ubuntu 22:22 cait I tried to use 2 screens 22:22 jcamins cait: I've done that several times with my VMs. 22:22 cait and now all I get after reboot is a black screen... or 2 22:23 jcamins cait: oh, you can fix that. 22:23 jcamins Let me just look up how. 22:23 cait jcamins: that would be great 22:23 ibeardsle what I do is .. go back to the one screen 22:23 ibeardsle delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf 22:24 cait the only way I can access data at the moment is with a ubuntulivecd on my windoes laptop and the harddrive as external via usb 22:24 jcamins sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 22:24 cait I have no terminal access :( 22:24 jcamins I know. 22:24 jcamins I'm giving you the steps backwards. 22:24 jcamins Why? 22:24 jcamins I don't know. 22:24 cait lol 22:24 chris hehe 22:24 jcamins Do you know if you're using grub? 22:24 cait um no 22:25 cait it's an ubuntu 10.10 if that helps 22:25 wizzyrea_ when it boots does it say "grub boot loader" 22:25 wizzyrea_ dual boot? 22:25 ibot dual boot is annoying 22:25 cait I have not seen that, but some screens are pretty fast 22:25 jcamins Do you have an installation disk for Ubuntu? 22:25 ibeardsle if you restart with just the one screen do you get anything useful? 22:25 jcamins Any version? 22:25 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #313: UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/313/ 22:25 hudsonbot Zach Sim: Added more unit tests to check when JSONStream should fail. 22:25 wizzyrea_ it's probalby safe to assume if it's ubuntu only that she's using grub 22:25 wizzyrea_ you can't hardly avoid it 22:26 wizzyrea_ can* hardly, I mean 22:26 ibeardsle 10.10 uses grub2 by default .. which behaves slightly differently 22:26 wizzyrea_ i want to know how many times in my life i've typo'd "probably" to "probalby" 22:26 cait if you are going to ask if I can choose something while it starts- no 22:26 jcamins ibeardsle: yeah, I learned that the hard way last time I hosed Ubuntu. 22:27 jcamins Okay. Probably the easiest option is a boot disk. Do you have any Ubuntu installation CD? 22:27 jcamins Or any bootable Linux CD, for that matter. 22:27 cait and no - my livecd works only on the windowslaptop and not on the broken one 22:27 ibeardsle i reinstalled a machine acouple of times because I thought it was broken with the extra files in /boot/grub 22:28 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-577-gd640086 10/t/Output_JSONStream.t: Bug 5327 fixing missing number of tests 22:28 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules 22:28 jcamins cait: wait, back up a bit. I missed something important. 22:28 jcamins You're able to boot the livecd on your laptop and access the hard drive? 22:28 cait nope 22:28 cait on the other laptop 22:28 jcamins I mean, on the other laptop. 22:28 wizzyrea_ you can't boot from the live CD t all 22:29 wizzyrea_ at* 22:29 cait I got the hard drive out and into the frame I have for my backup thingy - and started the other laptop from livecd 22:29 cait so I can access the data now 22:29 jcamins Okay. One moment while I find the exact commands you need. 22:29 jcamins Do you have a terminal up? 22:29 cait I am on windoes now - have to shut down this, start live cd, go into mibbit and get the hard drive into the frame 22:30 jcamins Ah. 22:30 jcamins Okay, let me think if I have a better solution. 22:30 jcamins I don't, sorry. It's easy to fix, but I don't know how to do it without booting from the livecd. 22:30 cait ok 22:30 cait i will hurry 22:31 wizzyrea_ ok, with the live CD what are the steps? (I'm curious_ 22:31 jcamins Find out where the drive is mounted 22:31 jcamins chroot /mount/point 22:31 jcamins dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server 22:31 wizzyrea_ oh, I think she could do that 22:32 wizzyrea_ with it plugged into a different machine 22:32 jcamins wizzyrea_: yeah, but she has to be running Linux. You can't chroot while booted into Windows. ;) 22:32 wizzyrea_ well NO 22:32 wizzyrea_ I thought you meant that the computer you wanted the screens on had to be where the drive was located 22:33 wizzyrea_ but I think I understand now lol 22:33 jcamins No, I just missed when she said she could access the hard drive from a livecd on her other computer. 22:33 jcamins It's confusing because I call both of them "laptop." 22:33 jcamins ;) 22:33 jcamins Also because I spent 6 hours caulking this morning. 22:34 jcamins Starting 12 hours ago. 22:34 * wizzyrea_ contemplates a comment about fumes, refrains. 22:35 jcamins :) 22:35 wizzyrea_ :D 22:36 chris thanks to zach 22:36 chris C4::Output::JSONStream has 100% statement and subroutine coverage 22:37 jcamins Woohoo! 22:37 wizzyrea_ thanks zach! 22:37 jcamins zach++ 22:42 cait_mib back 22:42 jcamins Welcome back. 22:42 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327 fixing missing number of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d64008644a72d88e8ab5442cb24ff64d23665a8f> 22:42 jcamins So you're booted into Linux with a livecd, and your drive hooked up as an external drive? 22:42 cait_mib had to open cdrom drive with something... because forgot the button is broken and after that had to search for my wlan password.. 22:42 cait_mib hmpf! 22:43 cait_mib yep 22:43 jcamins Okay, this is pretty easy. 22:43 jcamins Do you know where the external drive is mounted? 22:43 cait_mib I can access that 22:43 * wizzyrea_ hands cait_mib some fudge 22:43 cait_mib thx liz :) 22:43 jcamins Okay, you'll need to open up a terminal. 22:43 cait_mib ok 22:44 jcamins Run the command `mount` 22:44 cait_mib ok 22:44 Nate g'night #koha 22:45 cait_mib good night Nate 22:45 hudsonbot Starting build 314 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #312 1 hr 47 min ago) 22:45 jcamins You should see two hard drives listed, probably something like /media/something and /media/somethingelse 22:45 cait_mib what am I looking for? 22:45 cait_mib 3 - but I think I have the one we are looking for 22:45 jcamins It's probably /dev/sda2 22:46 cait_mib hm /dev/sdb1? 22:46 jcamins Right. 22:46 jcamins That's what I meant. 22:46 jcamins Okay, where is /dev/sdb1 mounted? 22:47 cait_mib t 22:47 cait_mib t /dev/sdb1 on /media/e5f2d04f-ae80-4304-9c21-97fc63653f76 22:47 jcamins Ugh! 22:47 cait_mib it didn't like the / at the beginning 22:47 jcamins Well, at least you can copy and paste. 22:48 jcamins Now run `chroot /media/e5f2d04f-ae80-4304-9c21-97fc63653f76` 22:48 cait_mib permission problem 22:49 cait_mib I tried it with sudo and no message 22:49 jcamins Sorry, forgot about sudo. 22:49 jcamins Now run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server` 22:49 cait_mib does not look good :( 22:50 jcamins No? 22:50 jcamins What does it say? 22:50 jcamins Oh, it says that jcamins is dyslexic today. 22:50 cait_mib have to translate 22:50 jcamins No need. 22:50 cait_mib cannot create /dev/null... 22:50 cait_mib ok 22:50 cait_mib big X? 22:50 jcamins `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` ? 22:51 cait_mib different, but still permission problems 22:51 jcamins Hm. 22:51 cait_mib cannot create /dev/null 22:52 jcamins What have I missed? 22:52 jcamins (rhetorical question, I'll remember in a moment...) 22:53 jcamins `sudo rm /dev/null` 22:53 jcamins Then `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` 22:53 cait_mib unable to resolve host ubuntu 22:53 cait_mib for the first one 22:54 jcamins Hm. That's a strange error. 22:54 cait_mib fle or directory not found without sudo 22:54 ibeardsle /dev doesn't always exist properly in a chroot 22:54 cait_mib and i don't see the directory in dev 22:54 jcamins ibeardsle: it did when I did this. 22:54 * si mutters "missing udev?" under his breath 22:55 jcamins ibeardsle: but apparently I was lucky. 22:55 si ohh, a chroot 22:55 * si goes back to his hole 22:55 si as you were 22:56 jcamins cait_mib: try this... `exit` 22:56 cait_mib hm, when I run the dpkg part without sudo I get no error message 22:56 cait_mib I get no message - good or bad? 22:57 cait_mib done the exit 22:57 jcamins mount --bind /dev /media/[that long string] 22:57 jcamins chroot /media/[that long string] 22:58 jcamins Actually, you'll need sudo for both of those, I think. 22:58 cait_mib yeah, did the first 22:58 cait_mib the second gives me an error 22:59 jcamins What's the error? 22:59 cait_mib cannot run command /bin/bash no such file or directory 22:59 jcamins Huh. 23:00 jcamins Now I'm confused, because that's where Ubuntu puts bash. 23:01 cait_mib it worked before 23:02 jcamins Typo? 23:02 cait_mib double checked 23:02 cait_mib not seeing one 23:02 jcamins Oh. I think I might know what it is. Run `mount` again. 23:02 cait_mib sudo mount --bind /dev /media/e5f2d04f-ae80-4304-9c21-97fc63653f76 23:02 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5327 fixing missing number of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=649fd4952dd5e44daacf96df380796b835b55da5> / Added more unit tests to check when JSONStream should fail. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab3263e018fb35f32e53a7a9bea7bdb35147cf81> / Bug 5327: Added unit tests to Output_JSONStream.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit 23:02 jcamins cait_mib: oh, no, I know what it is. I'm sleepy and telling you dumb things. 23:03 cait_mib I have 3 lines for the media/... now 23:03 cait_mib you are the first person I asked today that has an idea what needs to be done 23:03 cait_mib nothing you say is dumb :) 23:03 jcamins `sudo umount /media/[whatever that is]` 23:04 jcamins (we're now making it failsafe so I don't give you bad advice again) 23:04 jcamins `sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt` 23:04 jcamins `sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev` 23:04 jcamins `sudo chroot /mnt` 23:04 jcamins `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` 23:05 cait_mib unable to resolve host ubuntu 23:05 cait_mib *ducks* 23:05 wasabi lol 23:05 jcamins Argh! 23:06 * cait_mib hands wasabi a beer 23:06 wasabi i cant work out what the problem even is.. 23:06 cait_mib perhals linux is not cait-safe enough... 23:06 wasabi cait_mib: are you trying to mount a cd? 23:06 cait_mib I am trying to repair that black screen on my laptop... 23:07 jcamins wasabi: we're trying to have Xorg repair its configuration since it's hardlocking her laptop. 23:07 cait_mib and until now it involved getting the hard drive out of that laptop, starting livecd on this one... adding external harddrive 23:07 wasabi ok... 23:08 jcamins wasabi: and for some reason it wants to connect to the internet to reconfigure X. 23:08 wasabi why not just reboot into single user mode…? 23:08 jcamins wasabi: we can't access grub... 23:09 jcamins And the livecd won't work in the computer that the hard drive belongs in. 23:09 wasabi … then reconfigure x.org, and reboot? 23:09 wasabi ok, a dead disk, i guess.. 23:09 cait_mib wasabi: I found no way to do anything on the other laptop 23:10 cait_mib dead disk? I don't like the word dead in there! 23:10 jcamins wasabi: no, the disk is fine, grub just defaults to no pause. 23:10 wasabi sounds like a dead disk, or mobo 23:10 cait_mib and I can access the data 23:11 cait_mib I did a little backup earlier 23:11 wasabi ok, control-c on boot then, for single user mode 23:11 jcamins cait_mib: I have one more idea. Try this: 23:11 cait_mib saved some of the files on my usb stick 23:11 jcamins wasabi: really? I didn't know that. 23:11 cait_mib me neither 23:11 cait_mib and I googled a lot this evening 23:11 wasabi then reconfig x.org, and reboot ;) 23:11 cait_mib i can try that 23:12 cait_mib jcamins; what was your idea? 23:12 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #314: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/314/ 23:12 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 fixing missing number of tests 23:13 jcamins cait_mib: I'm trying to find Xorg.conf, one moment. 23:13 cait_mib or better try mason's idea? 23:13 cait_mib you don't have to add cait_mib - I am all ears ;) 23:13 wasabi fyi: a grub defaulting to a no-pause is a FAIL 23:13 jcamins wasabi: I know! 23:14 wasabi and not the default either... 23:14 cait_mib I only wanted to use a second screen... *sighs* 23:14 jcamins Does X not have a configuration file anymore? 23:14 cait_mib I read about changes there 23:14 cait_mib in ubuntu 10.04 there was none I thik and not sure about 10.10 23:15 cait_mib read something on the ubuntuuser site earlier this evening 23:15 jcamins Okay, I'm out of ideas, then. 23:15 jcamins Try the ctrl-c suggestion. 23:15 cait_mib ok, trying wasabi's idea 23:15 cait_mib pretty easy to do - give me a moment 23:15 wasabi the problem is an easy fix, to me 23:15 hudsonbot Starting build 88 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #86 6 days 8 hr ago) 23:16 jcamins wasabi: yeah, it should be easy. I've done this to my installations before, and chrooting always worked. 23:16 cait_mib cannot unmount.. grr 23:16 jcamins Oh, type `exit` 23:16 cait_mib did that 23:16 cait_mib but still 23:17 wasabi fyi: cntrl-c or escape interupt grub too, no? 23:17 jcamins wasabi: no idea. 23:17 cait_mib says it's busy 23:17 cait_mib wasabi: i think I tried esape 23:17 jcamins cait_mib: that's weird. 23:18 jcamins Wait, how are you still talking to us if you're shutting down your computer? 23:18 cait_mib i am not shutting it down 23:18 cait_mib only removing the external hard drive 23:18 jcamins Oh. 23:18 jcamins Ohh. 23:18 jcamins Do you still have the terminal open? 23:19 jcamins Run `mount` 23:19 jcamins (to see where it's mounted) 23:19 jcamins Then manually run `umount /dev/sdb1` and run `mount` again to check that it's unmounted. 23:19 cait_mib ok 23:20 cait_mib no, control +c esc do not work 23:20 cait_mib esc made it beep angrily at me 23:21 jcamins cait_mib: sorry, I'm out of ideas if wasabi's suggestion didn't work. :( 23:21 wasabi pass….. 23:21 cait_mib :( 23:21 jcamins I know what's wrong, but I don't know how to fix it anymore. 23:22 wasabi both cntrl-c and esc work for my ubuntu and debian boxes 23:22 cait_mib grr 23:22 cait_mib sorry 23:22 cait_mib highly frustrated now 23:23 wasabi esc on grub, cntrl-c after kernel has loaded to drop to shell 23:23 wasabi the difference is, i dont run X on my boxes 23:23 cait_mib ok, perhaps a stupid question - but how does grub look like? 23:24 cait_mib it this the thing that shows up a millisecond between no boot cd and darkness? 23:24 wasabi i guess that might be the difference… X borks early and stops the ability to drop to the shell 23:25 wasabi pass, i cant see your screen, so i dont know where your box is hanging 23:25 cait_mib it's ok 23:25 cait_mib but I am still... a bit surprised that it was so easy to break it 23:26 cait_mib I have not expected that. hm. 23:26 jcamins I'm always surprised by how easy it is to break Ubuntu. 23:26 jcamins I should go work on packing now. 23:26 jcamins And eat dinner. 23:26 cait_mib thx jcamins for taking the time 23:26 cait_mib and wasabi too 23:26 jcamins cait_mib: I'm sorry I wasn't able to find the solution. 23:26 cait_mib will either reinstall it or finally decide about a new laptop 23:27 cait_mib perhaps I will carry it to work tomorrow and ask one of my coworkers 23:27 jcamins That's a good idea. 23:27 jcamins Good night, #koha 23:27 cait_mib and I have my files now - so there is a little success 23:28 jcamins_a :) 23:28 cait_mib sleep well 23:28 cait_mib bye all 23:41 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #88: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/88/ 23:41 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Created unit testing using the testdatabase for XISBN. 23:41 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added unit tests using a test database for XISBN. 23:41 hudsonbot * johnboy: bug 5327 updated test file 23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 shifting database dependent modules and scripts to t/db_dependent 23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 litte fix for Background tests 23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 - Fixing a path issue with XISBN.t 23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 Cleaning up XISBN.t a bit 23:41 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added unit tests for Biblio and moved it to db_dependent as it requires the database. 23:41 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 1 more test added. 23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Little change to Record.t 23:41 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added unit tests to test all of get_amazon_tld in Amazon.pm. 23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 - Now we are doing db calls, we need to shift this to t/db_dependent 23:41 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 Some tests added 23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Shifting and little tidy up of the members tests 23:41 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 Made test file for Accounts.pm 23:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: small typo in the Members.t test 23:41 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Bug 5327: Added unit tests to Output_JSONStream.t 23:50 jcam_and ITCH on a phone is weird. 23:50 jcam_and Irc