Time Nick Message 23:57 jcamins_a And now, I *really* am leaving. 23:56 munin jcamins_a: The operation succeeded. 23:56 jcamins_a @later tell chris If it will help, I'll bribe you with a cookie... 23:56 munin jcamins_a: The operation succeeded. 23:56 jcamins_a @later tell chris I have tested and signed off on the patches for bug 4289. 23:42 jcamins_a Other than the updatedatabase issue. 23:41 jcamins_a wasabi: your patch works beautifully. 23:38 jcamins_a I need to revise a patch *two* patches back. 23:38 jcamins_a Argh! 23:36 jcamins_a The only conflict I see is updatedatabase.pl. 23:35 * chris ducks out for lunch 23:33 chris (just as an aside) 23:33 chris always use -3iu 23:32 jcamins_a git am $patchfile did something weird. 23:32 chris will send a patch in a bit 23:32 jcamins_a Okay, and, what's the proper command for git am? 23:32 wasabi claudia++ , thanks! :) 23:32 chris git am --abort 23:32 jcamins_a How do I undo a git am if it goes horribly wrong? 23:32 jcamins_a Actually, I think I just broke git. 23:31 chris i wouldnt be suprised, but thats nothing to do with the work we are doing 23:31 jcamins_a Fails on opac-showreviews.pl. 23:31 chris took the liblime kids one 23:30 chris t 23:30 chris a whole se 23:30 wasabi the 'general' one? 23:30 chris claudia has scaled them all to a better size and made them all have transparent backgrounds 23:30 chris but check out the little icon there 23:30 chris more likely just use a schema 23:30 chris but probably not 23:30 Brooke kia ora 23:29 chris maybe 23:29 wasabi in the future, a dir of DB patches, rather than 1 single conflict-prone file? 23:29 chris http://opac.opus.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1 23:29 chris check this out 23:29 chris one 23:29 chris just set it to xxx for your onwe 23:28 wasabi that conflict always p0wnz me, in my patches... 23:28 jcamins_a If that's it, it doesn't matter. 23:27 wasabi CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl 23:27 cait good night all 23:27 wasabi ahh, that old chestnut... 23:26 wasabi in hindsight… not the best commit to apply the patch too? 23:26 wasabi http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=e54169ba0f06cd835d72936e14012933a67793e7 23:25 jcamins_a wasabi: I'm going to see how bad the conflict is. 23:24 wasabi which was prolly the latest HEAD, at the time 23:23 wasabi oops, i the latest patch was applied to 'e54169ba0f06cd835d72936e14012933a67793e7' 23:21 jcamins_a Sadly that was after string freeze, I think. 23:21 wasabi fyi: it did apply OK to tag 'v3.02.00-rc' 23:20 wasabi i havent had time to redo it... 23:19 wasabi yep, me too ;) 23:19 jcamins_a The last thing I see, though, is "does not apply." 23:19 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4289 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Add a syspref 'OpacPublic', to hide OPAC search-bar and force authentication on all OPAC pages 23:19 wasabi bug 4289 23:19 jcamins_a Hm. 23:18 cait hm, chris - can you say something about your enh for acq? the budget table links to spend/avail.? 23:18 wasabi yes, and sent... 23:18 jcamins_a wasabi: did you redo your OpacNotPublic patch to have a positive syspref? 23:17 wasabi twas 95% merged for 3.2 a few months ago... 23:17 jcamins_a That reminds me. 23:17 jcamins_a :D 23:17 chris yup 23:17 jcamins_a chris: oh, I just realized... that is kind of the deadline, because of the T::T switchover. 23:17 wasabi ok, i can do that! 23:17 chris because after that we will be in template::toolkit land hopefully, and it will be harder to apply 23:16 chris yeah, i want it in the next week or so 23:14 jcamins_a :) 23:13 cait jcamins: I should hire you to set the deadlines for me 23:13 jcamins_a (some people work better under a tight deadline) 23:13 jcamins_a wasabi: next week. 23:10 wasabi in 4-ish months 23:09 wasabi whens the 3.4 deadline again? 23:09 wasabi yeah, sorry about the lateness on that one... 23:07 * chris wants that in 3.4 23:07 chris and send a patch/patches 23:07 chris on master 23:07 chris is you to rebase your 5 star ratings 23:07 chris wasabi: what i need 23:02 wasabi atm 23:02 wasabi i think more unit-test code is probably the best thing i could work on, for the koha project 22:55 cait :) 22:55 chris 1269 now 22:55 chris start of this week we had 1209 subroutines tested 22:55 chris http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/303/HTML_Report/? 22:55 chris check it out! 22:53 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Little change to Record.t 22:53 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 1 more test added. 22:53 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added unit tests for Biblio and moved it to db_dependent as it requires the database. 22:53 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #303: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/303/ 22:41 jcamins_a Oh, Kyle's server is down. 22:33 wasabi aaah, all good then hunny :) 22:33 * wizzyrea doesn't suspect malice here 22:32 wizzyrea so something's gone awry I think 22:32 wizzyrea I don't think so, it's hosted by kyle at meadville 22:32 druthb lol 22:31 * wasabi hopes kudos hasn't gone to join biblios.org at the devnull hotel 22:30 hudsonbot Starting build 303 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 23 hr ago) 22:30 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5327' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=73f0857003a049a2359c42a99d34760330153a73> / Bug 5327: Little change to Record.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=23f92a8f8dcded82bf5c3b319f373350a011e078> / Bug 5327 1 more test added. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5aa80408756c14565481259a927ab 22:22 wizzyrea on that like white on rice. 22:21 wizzyrea ya, that's where i was headed. :) 22:21 chris or i will 22:21 chris ask on the list 22:21 wizzyrea I'm not sure that it *was* moving, I was *hoping* that it was moving because it's baroooken. 22:21 chris wouldnt be the first time 22:21 chris or did they just turn it off 22:20 chris to even 22:20 chris where was it moving too? 22:20 chris yeah cos kudos.koha.org is not working 22:20 * wizzyrea fails 22:20 * wizzyrea tries to be optimistic 22:19 chris wheres it moving to? 22:19 wizzyrea (i'm wondering if I missed the memo that it was moving) 22:19 * druthb chuckles. 22:19 wizzyrea it's apparently broken? 22:19 chris thoughts? 22:14 wizzyrea no thoughts on the kudos website? 22:12 jcamins_a Good night, #koha 22:11 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules 22:11 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-541-ga844a2b 10/t/Record.t: Bug 5327: Little change to Record.t 22:05 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules 22:05 CIA-1 Koha: 03chansey.killer 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-540-g8554eaa 10/t/Record.t: Bug 5327 1 more test added. 22:04 CIA-1 Koha: 03joseph.zachariah.sim 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-539-g65e2cda 10/t/ (Biblio.t db_dependent/Biblio.t): Added unit tests for Biblio and moved it to db_dependent as it requires the database. 22:03 wizzyrea Did I miss a memo? 22:03 wizzyrea is that temp out of service for anyone else? 22:03 wizzyrea lolwut http://kudos.koha.org/ 21:47 wizzyrea I was wondering why there had been fewer 21:47 wizzyrea woohoo! 21:46 wasabi wizzyrea: chris_n's blocked that fail-loop, i think 21:46 druthb hehehe 21:46 * wizzyrea goes back in her hole 21:46 wizzyrea der, I know that wouldn't work. Sigh. 21:46 ibot i don't know, wizzyrea 21:46 wizzyrea ibot: cgi users? 21:46 wizzyrea cgi users come from koha.org 21:46 ibot mibbit is linked from k-c.org 21:46 wizzyrea ibot: mibbit? 21:45 wizzyrea mibbit is linked from k-c.org 21:45 ibot wizzyrea: bugger all, i dunno 21:45 wizzyrea ibot mibbit? 21:45 wizzyrea that you know they're coming from koha.org 21:45 wizzyrea it's when you get the CGI's 21:45 wizzyrea mmm mibbit is linked from k-c.org 21:44 * wasabi shakes fist at lazy mibbit users! 21:44 jcamins Ah. 21:44 wasabi … responding to a private question, about prod and demo kohas? 21:44 chris not when the mibbit user is sitting next to me at the academy 21:43 jcamins wasabi: yeah, I got that, but the usual response to a Mibbit user involves mentioning that the Koha website is at http://koha-community.org/ etc., etc. 21:42 wasabi jcamins: chris is responding to a mibbit-user, i guess? 21:40 jcamins chris: huh? 21:40 chris demo.mykoha.co.nz 21:40 chris and www.library.org.nz 21:40 chris mib_zo6j8: http://library.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/ 21:40 sekjal goodnight, #koha! 21:35 wasabi anyhoo, ive made 2 jquery discoveries, and solved my trival example, so i shut up now :) 21:33 wasabi $("#foo").after( cc ); 21:32 wasabi var cc = $("#foo").clone(); 21:32 wasabi yet, this after() example works too... 21:32 wasabi why, i dont know…. 21:31 wasabi $("#foo").clone().insertAfter( $("#foo") ); 21:30 wasabi but this works... 21:30 wasabi $("#foo").clone().after( $("#foo") ); 21:30 wasabi jebus, so this fails... 21:05 wasabi $("#foo").clone().appendTo( $("#foo") ); 21:05 wasabi even the appendTo() example duplicates the 'Hello' , (tho in the wrong element) 21:03 wasabi $("#foo").clone().after( $("#foo") ); 21:02 wasabi clone the element, and add.. 21:02 wasabi . 21:02 wasabi <b id="foo">Hello</b> 21:02 wasabi heres an element... 21:02 wasabi bah, why wont this work... 20:57 wasabi yeah, the floating left sidebar, seems to randomly reset the page-scroll to the top-of-page, when scrolling down :/ 20:55 owen Weird 20:55 wasabi the jquery doco pages break when scrolling in my browser(opera), drives me f** crazy 20:54 wasabi oooh, thank you! 20:52 owen wasabi: have you seen http://visualjquery.com/? It seems to be a little behind version-wise, but is still very useful 20:52 wasabi but thanks for that one, owen 20:51 wasabi jebus, the appendTo() doco is a bit confusing on that point 20:49 owen Yeah, appendTo appends to the contents of the selected element 20:49 wasabi ahh, after 20:49 wasabi it clones the select, but inserts it *inside* the 1st select 20:48 owen Instead of appendTo() try after() 20:48 wasabi $("#myDroplist").clone().appendTo("#myDroplist"); 20:48 wasabi this should work… but doesnt quite :/ 20:48 owen clone() ? 20:47 wasabi how to clone a <select> drop-list, in jquery? 20:46 wasabi morning, a simple jquery Q... 20:45 jcamins I've got a feeling I'd hate any smartphone, though. I still don't want one. 20:38 cait :) 20:35 druthb yah, I think so 20:35 wizzyrea more towards the other end of the spectrum :P 20:35 druthb jcamins is in an emotional relationship with his phone, too, apparently. 20:35 wizzyrea (I love the dang thing) 20:35 wizzyrea I really, truly, honestly am in an emotional relationship with my galaxy :P 20:34 * wizzyrea notes that not all android phones behave that way 20:34 jcamins On the other hand, I'm not sure there's a phone that would actually make me happier. 20:34 wizzyrea lol 20:34 jcamins I was too busy being annoyed to think of that. 20:33 jcamins Interesting thought. 20:33 jcamins wizzyrea: hm. 20:33 wizzyrea anything that causes you that much consternation is probably not worth the hassle >.> 20:33 wizzyrea jcamins: is this a new phone? perhaps you should erm, exchange it >.> 20:32 cait lol 20:31 jcamins Okay, here's the plan: I always dial from the computer using Google Voice. 20:30 druthb My pre plus doesn't do that, which is probably a good thing. 20:30 * wizzyrea has a habit of removing batteries from annoying toys "it's tired honey, and wants to take a rest" 20:30 owen I feel that way about some of my kids' toys 20:30 wizzyrea ibeardsle: the samsung galaxy S GPS is well known to have issues 20:29 jcamins owen: yes, but that might be a feature... if the phone is dead, it's not irritating you. 20:29 wizzyrea (one reason to love your galaxy) 20:29 wizzyrea yea, apparently on the incredible HF is per app, not phonewide 20:29 jcamins "Disable dialer vibration" is the solution, apparently. 20:29 owen Sounds like it would drain your battery right away 20:28 wizzyrea the palm pre was one of the first to do it 20:28 jcamins STUPID!!!! 20:28 wizzyrea it's the little vibration when you push a virtual button on a touch screen 20:27 owen What is haptic feedback? 20:27 jcamins Understandably. 20:27 wizzyrea mostly "htf do I turn this *(&* off" 20:26 wizzyrea teh googlez has a lot to say about the haptic feedback on the incredible 20:26 wizzyrea jcamins or this: Settings -> Language & Keyboard -> Touch Input -> Text Input -> Vibrate when typing = unchecked. 20:25 wizzyrea maybe, if it is I'll be happy to have helped :P 20:24 jcamins That must be why. 20:24 * ibeardsle makes a note to check with other people 20:24 jcamins wizzyrea: no, I turned it off in the Sound section. 20:24 wizzyrea satellite GPS, that is 20:24 wizzyrea it was broken in NZ too :P 20:24 wizzyrea everywhere 20:24 wizzyrea in my experience, yes 20:24 ibeardsle all over or just in your area? 20:24 ibeardsle wizzyrea: the galaxy gps sucks? 20:24 wizzyrea is that where you turned it off? 20:23 wizzyrea To turn it off for the "keyboard" function go into settings, language and keyboard, and then the keyboard settings. 20:23 jcamins I'm going to have to root it to disable the haptic feedback and shouting. 20:23 wizzyrea then yea 20:23 wizzyrea oh ew 20:23 wizzyrea you can turn that off 20:23 jcamins I already disabled it twice. :( 20:22 wizzyrea OH that's the haptic feedback 20:22 paul_p owen: send a mail to hdl, I can't find the mailing list password :\ 20:22 wizzyrea I love it, except for it's sucky gps 20:22 jcamins It vibrates when I'm trying to dial the phone. 20:22 * wizzyrea has a samsung galaxy 20:22 jcamins What, you could've told me it was going to irritate me? A friend of mine has it and loves it. 20:22 wizzyrea i think you're the first person I know who has said "my droid is dumb" 20:21 wizzyrea ohh 20:21 owen Catchy 20:21 jcamins HTC Incredible Stupidphone. 20:21 wizzyrea jcamins what kind of phone? 20:19 chris only biblibre can 20:19 chris i cant do the others 20:19 wasabi send her an email? 20:19 chris_n worked for me 20:19 chris ive blocked her on the main one 20:18 chris_n add her to your spam list 20:18 owen So no one here knows how to get Adrea Lund off the mailing lists until Feb? 19:59 magnus g'night #koha! 19:58 rhcl http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biblibre.com%2Fen%2Fblog%2Fentry%2Fubuntu-cest-frais-fruit%C3%A9-cest-l%C3%A9ger&act=url 19:58 rhcl google's translation seems pretty good 19:58 rhcl oops.. 19:58 rhcl google 19:51 cait magnus++ 19:50 * magnus is almost running out of his 1 hour hotel internet time... 19:49 * magnus hopes this is such a bad start, it will provoke people to make it better: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translating_Koha 19:47 jcamins Eventually I'll figure it out and love it, I'm sure, but seriously, this thing is staggeringly annoying. 19:46 jcamins I HATE THIS PHONE! 19:46 cait I think smartphones are not made to make calls... 19:46 jcamins STOP VIBRATING!!! 19:45 jcamins I want to make a phone call. With my phone. Seriously, shouldn't that be simple? 19:45 owen http://markdotto.com/playground/3d-text/ 19:43 * magnus likes his dell latitude 13 - only 2 hours of battery though 19:43 chris thats often the thing that comes with some stupid proprietary driver 19:43 owen If figured that would be the sticking point 19:43 chris specifically the wifi card 19:43 paul_p in french only, sorry) 19:43 chris just google them before you buy it owen 19:42 paul_p he loves that ! 19:42 paul_p it's Philippe, that is our new associates and has switched from win to ubuntu 19:42 chris dell are ok too 19:42 jcamins Then it broke. 19:42 magnus when we had the small "open source for libraries" conferene in norway i was just about the only one not using mac or linux - and i was laughed at - never again! ;-) 19:42 * druthb has a dell, and it's awesome. 19:42 paul_p have you read : http://www.biblibre.com/en/blog/entry/ubuntu-cest-frais-fruit%C3%A9-cest-l%C3%A9ger 19:42 cait I love my old acer travelmate... but don't know about newer models 19:42 jcamins If you want PC, I was very happy with my Fujitsu for a while. 19:41 * jcamins does 19:41 chris i dont hate toshiba 19:41 jcamins Grr. Stupid phone. 19:41 owen So who's got a favorite brand of laptop they want to sell me on? 19:40 chris and i still do :) 19:39 cait it's all his fault anyway - installed ubuntu on old laptop for kohacon - because he threatened to laugh at people with windows ;) 19:39 cait hehe 19:39 cait planning to buy a new laptop since before nz ... have not managed to decide for a model yet 19:38 jcamins cait: you'll get more brownie points with chris if you go with your proprietary OS in Virtual Box. 19:38 cait virtual box might be better 19:38 cait hm right 19:38 chris dual boot is annoying 19:37 chris ubuntu, with windows in virtualbox if you need it 19:37 * owen has been considering getting a laptop to install Ubuntu on 19:37 jcamins Try it w/Ubuntu... it might be better. 19:37 cait I favor really new laptop with dual boot... as next step 19:37 cait no, I hate the battery life of the newer laptop 19:36 jcamins cait: what about newer laptop with Ubuntu? :D 19:36 cait my personal laptop war - newer laptop with vista against very old laptop with ubuntu 19:35 jcamins Wins what? 19:35 cait I think ubuntu wins 19:35 * cait has decided to move thunderbird to old laptop 19:34 chris yep 19:32 magnus would plain old "Translating Koha" be an ok title for a wiki page? i could start it and others, more knowledgeable than me, could chime in 19:32 cait mmh 19:31 jcamins druthb: that recipe's really easy. 1 c. butter, 1-1/4 c. sugar, 1 tsp. vanilla, 1 tsp. lemon extract, 1/8 tsp. salt, 1 egg, 2 c. sifted flour (i.e., 1-3/4 c. flour), 2 c. chocolate chips. Bake at 350. 19:29 magnus with some hints on good software to use etc... 19:28 * druthb steals jcamins' cookie recipe, and dispatches the evil minion to make them. 19:27 chris we used to have one, a new one would be good 19:27 magnus koha in icelandic would be cool - looks like we could maybe use a translation 101 page on the wiki, or something? 19:26 * jcamins prefers piles of cookies 19:26 * magnus too 19:23 * owen prefers piles of koha work to any other kind 19:23 cait :) 19:22 chris its good that there is piles of koha work to do though :) 19:22 chris yeah most if it is not urgent, just piles of quotes i did before xmas that people have now okayed i can shuffle it :) 19:22 cait hm no, that doesn't work out 19:21 magnus lets see, 138 divided by 7 is... ouch! 19:20 ibeardsle heh 19:20 chris so most of my work is shuffling that around and just doing the urgent stuff 19:20 chris some clown booked himself 138 hours worth of work for this week (while robin is away) 19:19 chris will do, ill try and catch up on all my work 19:19 ibeardsle .. down for you 19:19 ibeardsle but wander up to be ready to go at 10 anyway 19:18 ibeardsle yeap it was murray 19:18 chris ahhh 19:17 ibeardsle although just checking who the text was from saying they trains were runnign late 19:17 ibeardsle yeap 19:17 chris ibeardsle: 10am today eh? 19:16 * chris clocks in from work 19:16 ibot thanks ibeardsle :) 19:16 ibeardsle ibot botsnack coffee 19:09 cait I think he is ok 19:09 cait he still eats 19:09 ibot :) 19:09 cait ibot botsnack cookie 18:59 ibot no idea, wizzyrea 18:59 wizzyrea ibot: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland? 18:58 jcamins I guess we've broken ibot of the habit of remembering everything munin says. 18:57 jcamins Huh. 18:57 ibot jcamins: no idea 18:57 jcamins ibot: druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Marylan? 18:56 munin druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 0.3�C (1:55 PM EST on January 18, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Steady). 18:56 druthb @wunder 20852 18:52 paul_p bon appétit chris 18:52 paul_p chris, very good time. A library with a simple and well defined project, i've seen my oncle that lives here for years. all in one, good ! 18:52 * chris goes for breakfast bbiab 18:49 chris Hi paul, how was switzerland? 18:49 paul_p I confirm, it rains ;-) 18:49 munin paul_p: The current temperature in Metz, France is 7.0�C (7:30 PM CET on January 18, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). 18:48 paul_p @wunder metz, France 18:48 wizzyrea brrrr 18:48 paul_p morning chris 18:48 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -5.3�C (12:49 PM CST on January 18, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Watch in effect from Wednesday afternoon through late Wednesday night... 18:48 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks 18:47 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on January 19, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Rising). 18:47 chris @wunder wellington nz 18:47 chris You guys should organise a meetup he lives in your neck of the woods 18:46 jcamins cait: yeah, I need to. 18:46 cait jcamins: I think thd did the original version of the frameworks - perhaps you shoudl talk to him 18:46 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add 'get there' notes to tools 18:46 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #41: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/41/ 18:45 cait hi chris 18:45 chris Morning 18:44 cait too tired to type 18:44 cait make that translation 18:44 cait and I have not translated those not showing up in the official german trnslations 18:43 cait I noticed when I translated the frameworks into German 18:43 cait not sure 18:43 jcamins I think we already do that for fields that were deprecated prior to 2007, don't we? 18:42 cait there are a lot of them 18:42 cait perhaps we can think about hiding the deprecated fields from the standard frameworks 18:42 cait cool :) 18:42 jcamins I just requested a computer-readable format of the spec from LC. 18:41 cait I have thought about it before :) 18:41 cait it's a good thing but I lack the skills to do it without a lot of manual work... 18:41 jcamins Yes. And by "we" I mean "I," of course. 18:41 cait hm 18:41 * cait tries to hide 18:41 jcamins We were talking about updating the MARC21 frameworks to match the current standard. 18:41 cait you were? 18:40 jcamins We were just thinking about you. 18:40 jcamins Hi cait. 18:40 druthb welcome back, cait. :) 18:39 cait hi #koha :) 18:38 jcamins Okay, I have asked LC CPSO if there is any machine-readable version of the MARC21 spec. 18:32 jcamins *weighs, even 18:32 hudsonbot Starting build 41 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:31 jcamins The MARC21 documentation ways 37 pounds. 18:26 nengard awesome 18:24 paul_p I had a meeting with 4 universities interested by Koha 18:24 * paul_p in Metz, NE of France 18:24 paul_p hello nengard 18:23 nengard hiya paul_p 18:22 paul_p hello everybody 18:15 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: update tools locations and add to label and patron creators 18:15 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #40: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/40/ 18:02 hudsonbot Starting build 40 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:35 sekjal mmm, that cake will go well with my lunch. 17:34 kf time to leave... bye all :) 17:34 druthb mmmmm 17:33 kf mmh cake :) 17:33 * owen shares cake 17:32 jcamins Happy birthday, owen. 17:32 kf oh yes -happy birthday owen! 17:31 druthb Happy birthday, owen! :) 17:31 nengard I just don't remember writing it 17:31 nengard kf, i have some about it in the manual :) 17:30 kf nengard: have seen something somewhere - not sure how it works :) 17:30 owen thanks nengard! 17:29 nengard thanks kf, i'll find that - i do believe you are right 17:29 nengard happy bday owen!! 17:29 kf nengard: I think there is a syspref for the fields? 17:28 * owen is a ripe old age 17:27 * wizzyrea is reminded that it is owen's birthday 17:25 chris_n howdy owen 17:25 chris_n iirc it uses some css and prints from the browser 17:25 * owen wonders whatever happened to kyle 17:24 chris_n who wrote it 17:24 chris_n I think kyle is the one 17:24 nengard oh ok 17:24 chris_n nengard: I think that is correct, but I'm not the author and we don't use it here 17:19 nengard chris_n regarding the quick spine label creator - am i right in assuming that it does not take into account any kind of lable template - it just prints at the top left of the page 17:19 * wizzyrea doesn't use that report, and only has a couple of libraries that use fines 17:19 * jcamins also doesn't use fines. 17:19 nengard :) 17:17 * owen is here but doesn't use fines 17:16 nengard guess everyone is on lunch 17:15 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: update acq claims section 17:15 hudsonbot * Nicole C. Engard: add acquisitions claims section 17:15 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #39: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/39/ 17:04 nengard and doesn't show anything about fines on it 17:04 nengard the overdues with fines report seems a bit wonky to me 17:04 nengard okay what is the difference between the 'overdues' and 'overdues with fines' reports? 17:02 hudsonbot Starting build 39 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:50 wizzyrea hehe 16:50 chris_n ok, break's over :) 16:50 chris_n the cat chased one under our house when I was growing up.... we moved out for a week 16:49 chris_n skunk essence.... 16:49 * wizzyrea giggles a bit 16:49 * wizzyrea is reminded of the mythbusters where they sprayed themselves with skunk essence 16:49 * chris_n heads off to find the tomato juice 16:48 munin wizzyrea: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 06:58 PM, September 17, 2009) 16:48 wizzyrea @quote random 16:48 munin wizzyrea: Error: 'random' is not a valid id. 16:48 wizzyrea @quote get random 16:48 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #114 added. 16:48 wizzyrea @quote add chris_n: maybe you mean "black" magic with reference to zebra? ;-) ; wizzyrea: correction: black magic of zebra :D ; sekjal: correction: "black and white striped" magic of zebra .... ; rhcl: zebra sounds like a skunk ; chris_n thinks is may smell occasionally too, like a pole cat. 16:47 chris_n like a pole cat 16:47 * chris_n thinks it may smell occasionally too 16:46 rhcl zebra sounds like a skunk 16:46 wizzyrea HAHA 16:45 sekjal correction: "black and white striped" magic of zebra .... 16:39 wizzyrea are you on the very latest version of koha (I assume you are) 16:38 wizzyrea correction: black magic of zebra :D 16:38 chris_n maybe you mean "black" magic with reference to zebra? ;-) 16:37 wizzyrea I don't have a good enough grasp on how the magic of zebra works to speculate, thusly all speculatious should be considered just that. 16:37 chris_n its probably not worth chasing atm 16:36 chris_n maybe 16:36 * wizzyrea really has no idea 16:36 chris_n they said they also saw this happen with on or two other items 16:36 wizzyrea I wonder if there's a point in the indexing where one reference to the item has been updated, but the other hasn't 16:36 chris_n maybe it comes and goes 16:36 chris_n but the catalogers noticed the same error last week, so...?? 16:35 wizzyrea ours is 9 min, I think 16:35 chris_n zebra reindexes every 5 mins here atm 16:35 chris_n hmm... your screenshot is basically what we saw in our opac 16:35 wizzyrea but those items had circ'd, so that makes it a little different 16:34 wizzyrea FIXED with the reindexing Aug. 24. The catalog is Not Indexing Correctly, as some catalogers have discovered. We also noticed that the Search results list shows ‘old’ information about items recently checked in (or out). The Items tab of the Bib record should be correct. 16:34 wizzyrea and a reindex was apparently what fixed it 16:33 wizzyrea chris_n: we were seeing things like this http://content.screencast.com/users/neklstraining/folders/Jing/media/e31be476-5578-4ce1-b0f8-989797616f15/00000154.png 16:29 chris_n wizzyrea: thanks, I'd be interested to hear 16:28 wizzyrea chris_n: I'm trying to find what we know about that issue... 16:25 chris_n which I suppose agrees with the fact that it has not circulated yet 16:24 chris_n hdl: NULL for this item 16:22 chris_n hmm... no, but I can 16:22 chris_n well, it is comforting to know I'm not going insane... yet 16:22 hdl ? 16:22 hdl chris_n have you checked your items.onloan 16:21 wizzyrea but we ahve seen it 16:21 * chris_n wishes all problems would go away after a few ctl-F5's 16:21 wizzyrea i don't have specifics that detailed on when we saw that 16:21 wizzyrea !! 16:21 chris_n and not circulated yet 16:21 chris_n but this item was cataloged last week :-P 16:21 chris_n you might think that 16:21 wizzyrea maybe a lag issue? 16:20 wizzyrea it's something about the index 16:20 chris_n this occurred on multiple workstations; a few moments later.... the problem goes away 16:20 wizzyrea chris_n: we've seen that too 16:20 chris_n morning weirdness: we had a bib with an item attached; the item detail showed available; the opac search summary showed unavailable at the same time 15:57 kf a friend of mine did that for the fudge recipe - it was horrible ;) 15:57 kf although it can do mean things too... if you give it the ingredients for a recipe it will calculate the calories :( 15:57 kf wolfram_alpha++ 15:55 collum math and movie quotes. 15:55 owen Do math and help me find what time IRC meetings are 15:54 nengard i'm sure they hoped it would do more than that :) 15:54 nengard for doing math? 15:52 collum that's what wolfram-alpha is for 15:52 nengard my brain is closed to all new math skills 15:51 nengard well she still has a chance to learn more 15:51 hdl my daughter too ;) 15:51 jcamins nengard++ # for excellence in mathematics 15:51 nengard hehe 15:51 nengard that's about it :) 15:51 nengard right 15:51 hdl nengard knows 1+1 15:51 nengard very much non nonsense - i promise! 15:51 jcamins You're perfectly good at math. :) 15:51 jcamins Right. 15:50 nengard nonsense? that I don't know math? 15:50 kf nengard: I saw some strange math in there... avoiding to look at it at the moment 15:50 nengard ?? 15:50 jcamins nengard: nonsense. 15:48 nengard i'm no good at math 15:48 nengard too much math going on there 15:48 nengard agreed 15:46 * owen finds acquisitions very confusing 15:45 nengard i haven't 15:43 kf nengard: saw your mail about acq - have you checked with funds and child funds? I think the base level is probably relating to the parent/child fund, when you have more levels. I tested that, but have recreated my database since :( 15:18 jwagner OK, going to hit the road now -- hope they're all sanded.... 15:13 kf writing documentation for my coworkers - looking at patron sysprefs today 15:13 kf sekjal: perfect - don't to file a bug then :) 15:13 kf it puts the acctdetails pref and the ACCTDETAILS pref into one entence 15:13 sekjal kf: yes. I think there was a patch to correct the language, but it hasn't been pushed yet, apparently 15:12 kf than the sys pref editor is wrong 15:12 kf ok 15:12 sekjal it's best set to 'first valid" 15:12 sekjal yes, overdue notices DO consult AutoEmailPrimaryAddress 15:11 jwagner kf, it was, but druthb did a patch a while back to make the overdue notices obey that syspref. NOt sure if that got pushed. 15:07 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=C4/Letters.pm 15:07 kf not sure I read the code right - can someone check? 15:06 kf hm, looking at the sys pref editor I wonder - is AutoEmailPrimaryAddress only for ACCTDETAILS notices? 15:04 druthb sekjal++ # for some quick-thinking JQuery goodness 14:41 jwagner We had a nasty mixture of snow, sleet, and freezing rain. It's melting off now, but I'm going to give it another hour or two before I venture out on the roads.... 14:40 owen Just rain here. 14:32 jwagner Well, there's some ice _down_ :-) 14:23 owen So what's up #koha? 14:08 mirbolt cheers for the assistance 14:07 jcamins mirbolt: yeah, you should *definitely* upgrade. 14:07 mirbolt oh well, i needed something to push me into upgrading, this might just be it 14:04 mirbolt hmm, perhaps it is just 3.2 as i can't find it when i search my system prefs 14:04 jcamins It's certainly in 3.2, and maybe in 3.06 (I just noticed you said you were on 3.0). 14:03 jcamins That's the syspref. 14:03 jcamins opacSerialDefaultTab 14:03 mirbolt damn. thanx anyway 14:02 jcamins mirbolt: I think there is, but I don't remember how. 13:59 mirbolt hi there. i'm using 3.06. when i click on a bib record in the opac which has a serial sub attached, is there any way to make the subscription tab highlighted by default, rather than the holdings tab? 13:59 kf thx jared :) 13:59 jcamins kf: That looks correct. 13:57 kf is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze up to date? 13:46 schuster Flu that is. 13:46 schuster not to mention that both of my boys are at home with the Flue 13:45 schuster Board meeting tonight - so this week is going to be ugly as RIF and possible positions are on the table. 13:40 * druthb waves to schuster 12:59 magnus gotta find my plane now, bye #koha! 12:59 magnus thanks 12:57 kf hope you have a lot of fun :) 12:57 kf :) 12:50 magnus kf: not there yet, waiting for the plane from OSL to HEL, the fun starts tomorrow! 12:49 jwagner Hi kf 12:48 kf how is the conference? 12:47 magnus hiya kf 12:45 kf hi nengard, hi jwagner 12:45 kf hi druthb hi magnus :) 12:43 nengard they're saying it will be better this afternoon 12:43 nengard yup 12:43 magnus nengard: it'll melt, eventually... ;-) 12:40 nengard yes magnus, sorry I wasn't clear on that :) 12:40 jwagner Hi magnus and druthb 12:39 * druthb waves to jwagner. 12:38 magnus g'day jwagner 12:37 magnus ah, salt for roads, not food... probably best to stay indoors ;-) 12:36 nengard i'll stay home under the covers on my couch instead :) 12:36 nengard so i'm going to guess no luck 12:36 nengard and i'm sure everyone else is doing that too 12:36 nengard none in the house ... would have to go out to the store for some 12:35 magnus hiya nengard, finding any salt? 10:27 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 Cleaning up XISBN.t a bit 10:27 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #302: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/302/ 10:25 kf good night chris 10:06 * chris heads to bed 10:06 chris and some new icons being designed, i think for the first time most of them have ever seen perl or linux, they are doing pretty damn well 10:04 chris right, bedtime, we have moved from 1209 subroutines covered by tests to 1226 09:57 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5327' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=22e5f27ff42d64f84971155f062db901ea3813f3> / Bug 5327 Cleaning up XISBN.t a bit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4093615e9f2f79f8738769edbfb4b41733b284da> 09:56 hudsonbot Starting build 302 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 11 hr ago) 09:56 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #301: STILL UNSTABLE in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/301/ 09:52 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules 09:52 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-538-g4093615 10/t/db_dependent/XISBN.t: Bug 5327 Cleaning up XISBN.t a bit 09:30 hudsonbot Starting build 301 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 10 hr ago) 09:29 hudsonbot chris: job koha_master build scheduled now 09:29 chris !hudson build koha_master now 08:40 ivanc guten morgen kf :) 08:39 kf hi ivanc 08:07 ivanc hi #koha 08:06 francharb hello all 08:03 kf sorry, running around office and not really awake yet 08:03 kf hi chris - ok - so we require them 08:02 chris hi hdl 07:57 hdl hi all 07:55 chris until we get the installer to use en only for sysprefs 07:55 chris otherwise a new install will have missing sysprefs (if its installed in anything other than english) 07:54 chris but they still currently need to exist 07:54 chris kf: for now we dont bother translating them 07:39 kf do we still maintain all language files? or is someone working on making the en file standard? 07:38 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5474 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Missing sys prefs in translated sysprefs.sql 07:38 kf ? 07:38 kf what is the status of bug 5474 07:37 kf lots of academy patches :) 07:37 kf hi chris 07:35 chris hi kf 07:29 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 - Fixing a path issue with XISBN.t 07:29 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #300: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/300/ 07:24 kf good morning #koha 07:01 hudsonbot Starting build 300 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 8 hr 15 min ago) 06:55 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5327' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c0b51460ea812c27f75058ba33c5e99d1a8e9e3> / Bug 5327 - Fixing a path issue with XISBN.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71a7d2ad389ff946c5fc65293240caf3d3e290f6> 06:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules 06:53 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-537-g71a7d2a 10/t/db_dependent/XISBN.t: Bug 5327 - Fixing a path issue with XISBN.t 06:39 chris evening 06:28 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5474 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Missing sys prefs in translated sysprefs.sql 06:28 cait bug 5474 06:21 cait hi Amit 06:21 Amit heya cait 06:16 cait good morning #koha 05:27 pianohack wasabi: What happened with js? 05:18 wasabi yo amit 05:17 Amit heya mason 05:14 wasabi better luck tmrw 05:14 wasabi damn, i spent a whole day deep in the js/jquery FAIL-MATRIX 04:50 pianohack Hi Amit 04:50 ibot pianohack is pianohacker 04:50 Amit heya pianohack 04:19 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 litte fix for Background tests 04:19 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #299: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/299/ 04:07 Oak things are ok :) 04:04 druthb how are things on your side of the world? 04:04 druthb Doing well. :) 04:03 Oak hiya druthb :) how are things? 03:55 hudsonbot Starting build 299 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 5 hr 10 min ago) 03:55 druthb howdy, Oak! :) 03:54 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 shifting database dependent modules and scripts to t/db_dependent 03:54 hudsonbot * johnboy: bug 5327 updated test file 03:54 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added unit tests using a test database for XISBN. 03:54 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Created unit testing using the testdatabase for XISBN. 03:54 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #298: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/298/ 03:51 Oak \o 03:44 Amit heya druthb 03:43 druthb Hi, Amit. :) 03:43 Amit heya all 03:42 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327 litte fix for Background tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8ba99e155cc3357edfc30c23e4b4e5797b241c3> 03:38 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules 03:38 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-547-gc8ba99e 10/t/BackgroundJob.t: Bug 5327 litte fix for Background tests 03:32 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5327' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1144c92ffc040438df1229f216453b1987c031f0> / Bug 5327 shifting database dependent modules and scripts to t/db_dependent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eff21765f9784e09905042dd7080cbef099306d9> / bug 5327 updated test file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm 03:30 hudsonbot Starting build 298 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 4 hr 44 min ago) 03:20 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules 03:20 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-536-geff2176 10/t/ (158 files in 42 dirs): Bug 5327 shifting database dependent modules and scripts to t/db_dependent 03:11 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules 03:11 CIA-1 Koha: 03chansey.killer 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-535-gcc039cd 10/t/Record.t: bug 5327 updated test file 03:04 CIA-1 Koha: 03joseph.zachariah.sim 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-534-g52762c6 10/t/db_dependent/XISBN.t: Added unit tests using a test database for XISBN. 02:56 CIA-1 Koha: 03joseph.zachariah.sim 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-533-g7d7df6a 10/t/ (XISBN.t db_dependent/XISBN.t): Created unit testing using the testdatabase for XISBN. 02:46 wasabi Silens: thanx for yr help, im nearly finished my problem 02:45 Silens wasabi: if you pm me your code and your problem I'll try and help you. 02:44 wasabi but ive got a little problem switching between the 2 syntaxes in code 02:43 wasabi i know a little js, and i know a little jquery... 02:40 wasabi atm jquery is a brainfuck, for me 02:38 wasabi ooh, im having a little more luck... 02:37 Silens wasabi: if you go rows.html('<td>test1</td><td>test2</td><td>test3</td>'); you should be able to change the html inside the rows. 02:34 wasabi it seems to be obv. enuff that theres not much doco on it, on the web 02:34 wasabi . 02:34 wasabi i think my problem is i cant work out the syntax to manip the obj, after i have one 02:32 wasabi selecting stuff into the 'rows' var isnt my problem - i can do that just fine :) 02:32 wasabi but i want to learn how to manip the 'rows' variable 02:31 wasabi Silens: yes, it does work :) 02:31 wasabi its great that i can use jquery to select stuff into a var/obj, but i cant work out the syntax to manip that obj with jquery *after* ive got it :/ 02:30 Silens unsure but var rows=("#mytable tr"); might work 02:29 wasabi pass... 02:29 wasabi var rows = $( foo(tr) ); ? 02:28 wasabi var rows = $foo(tr) ? 02:27 wasabi ? 02:27 wasabi var rows = foo.$(tr); 02:26 wasabi like, give me all rows of that table... 02:25 wasabi how do i use jquery manipulation on that var? i cant work out the syntax :/ 02:24 wasabi var foo = $("#mytable"); 02:24 wasabi but if i cp that jquery selection to a variable ... 02:23 wasabi thats great…. 02:23 wasabi $("#mytable").css({'background-color' : 'yellow' } ); 02:22 wasabi i have a jquery object, and can change the color, like this... 02:21 wasabi a stupid basic jquery question anyone? 00:13 ibeardsle good to see a bot working hard ;) 00:09 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added extra unit tests to Debug.t 00:09 hudsonbot * johnboy: bug 5327 started testing 00:09 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 Starting tests for BackgroundJob 00:09 hudsonbot * spartaness: Bug 5327 Starting Unit Tests for Auth.pm 00:09 hudsonbot * claudia: Bug 5327 removing uneeded tests 00:09 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5399: Follow up style patch, moving exits out of subroutine 00:09 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: Bug 5399: remove useless eval 'use C4::Foo' 00:09 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Adding a new developer to the history 00:09 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5403 Remove DisplayISBN and GetPublisherNameFromIsbn 00:09 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Bug 5327 - Adding UNIT Tests. 00:09 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #87: UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/87/