Time Nick Message 22:50 wasabi oops, it didn't fix it :/ 22:49 wasabi wow, setting KOHA_DEBUG "0" , and DEBUG "0" in my apache conf fixed that! 22:46 wasabi ive made a trivial edit to detail.pl, and i get this crazy error and a hardloop 22:42 wasabi tho, my DEBUG level is at 1, not 2... 22:41 wasabi something very similar 22:40 wasabi ooooh, http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2010-January/022277.html 22:35 wasabi yeah, its a weird none, for me too... 22:35 atz or maybe your locale is set to something non UTF8? 22:35 atz strange.... sounds like you have some malformed unicode data 22:34 chris nope 22:34 wasabi anyone else bump into the same problem? 22:33 wasabi my code often seems to give me that error and spin in a hard-loop, rather than print the syntax error and die 22:31 wasabi i seem to get these, *rather* than a more helpful general syntax error :/ 22:31 wasabi " Digit.pl: Deep recursion on subroutine "utf8::SWASHNEW" at /usr/share/perl/5.10/utf8_heavy.pl line 251.," 22:31 wasabi does anyone else often get these errors in the koha log, when dev-ing... 22:30 wasabi hi folks, a pretty random perl question here... 21:57 drulm So-Long 21:56 cait good night all :) 21:56 cait I give up 21:35 cait that's weird! 21:35 cait before recreating them 21:35 cait I even created both template folders completely 21:35 cait recreationg the German files does 21:35 cait recreating the french templates in 3.2.x does not create the css folder 21:35 cait grr 21:28 cait fredericd: around? 21:23 hudsonbot * Nahuel ANGELINETTI: (bug #3743) fix acquisition stats ordering 21:23 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5611: Simple typo fix in the comments 21:23 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #82: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/82/ 21:21 wizzyrea but, this idea seems compelling. :P 21:21 wizzyrea hrmph. 21:21 * wizzyrea does not have a character on saurfang, and certainly could not get one there in 30 minutes 21:21 wizzyrea a virtual gaming workshop 21:19 Brooke cheers 21:18 Brooke \ 21:17 Brooke if anyone plays World of Warcraft, there's a virtual gaming workshop in 45ish minutes on the Saurfang realm in the Library of Ironforge. 21:08 owen It's worth seeing if you're a fan of the original 21:08 * wizzyrea hasn't seen it yet 21:08 wizzyrea speaking of which, did you see the new tron, owen? 21:05 cait :) 21:03 chris thems the keys 21:03 chris developed in the open and released early and often for testing 21:03 * wizzyrea doesn't mind buggy, as long as we can fix it 21:02 wizzyrea ya, I think even if it's initially buggy, a lot of the underlying things that boggle us day to day will be helped by it 21:01 owen s/previous/previews 21:01 owen I read that RFC the same way I watched previous for the new Tron movie. Want to be excited about it, but don't want to set myself up for disappointment. 21:01 hudsonbot Starting build 82 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:00 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 21:00 wizzyrea @later tell sekjal totally dig the rfc for holds improvements. WANT. 20:56 Brooke :) 20:55 cait hi Brooke 20:54 Brooke :) 20:54 druthb hi, Brooke! 20:54 druthb o/ 20:53 wizzyrea ha? 20:52 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: (bug #3743) fix acquisition stats ordering <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=64f424f0341086d0c4eca5ee1a4cc87a1b8ccbd5> / Bug 5611: Simple typo fix in the comments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd00b22bdf7c5044265973a11c19ccb92f37c641> 20:50 Brooke HA! 20:45 chris wizzyrea++ #im glad you are looking after the manual website 20:41 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 20:41 wizzyrea @later tell nengard http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/ looks better, and http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-4-manual-en/ seems to look ok too 20:38 owen hdl: When we have jQueryUI successfully added I'm thinking this might be better than tabs for displaying patron details in moremember.pl: http://jqueryui.com/demos/accordion/ 20:36 * owen also found the patch wasn't formatted correctly for git am :P 20:36 chris cool 20:36 * owen did 20:35 chris maybe note that on the bug 20:34 owen I was able to import records under my branch with an upgraded jQuery 20:34 chris not me 20:33 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5449 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED, JSON malformed in Koha - Blocker with jQuery 1.4.x 20:33 owen Has anyone confirmed that Bug 5449 exists? 20:33 owen No problems here 20:33 wizzyrea it's only in our system 20:33 wizzyrea unless you come up with different results, you can igonre that 20:33 wizzyrea aha 20:33 wizzyrea this is intranet, btw 20:32 * wizzyrea will go try it in 3.2 proper... just realized I wasn't in koha when I did that. 20:32 owen No, but I'll give it a try 20:32 wizzyrea (that's with all of the spaces) 20:31 wizzyrea owen: i wonder if you've ever come across the problem where a search like "miracle worker dvd" causes an unresponsive script in the jquery highlighting plugin thingy 20:28 cait I know how to do that I think - ignore me :) 20:28 cait the want a different one selected 20:28 * cait should read her tickets better 20:28 cait ah I was wrong 20:27 cait owen: do you have a jquery hint for me? what would you use to reorder? 20:27 cait owen: I had a request to reorder the search options on the advanced search page pull down 20:23 jwagner Thanks, cait -- that will help! 20:22 cait https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/271/ 20:22 cait colorzilla 20:21 cait I don 20:21 cait hm perhaps the right name is colorzilla 20:21 jwagner The colr.org site was great. I hope it comes back. For the last couple of weeks at least, it's just been saying that the site is down. 20:20 cait never used something else 20:20 cait not sure it's as exact as the other sites 20:20 * jwagner had better go look.... 20:20 jwagner There's a plugin??? 20:20 jwagner cait, yes. Someone sends me a logo and they want the whole background of the header to match. 20:20 cait jwagner: i use the colorpicker plugin for firefox 20:19 jwagner owen, I find I need it a lot to try to match the colors in logo files. Thought it was worth mentioning. 20:19 cait jwagner: you need a tool to find the color (for html/css) of a picture? 20:19 hudsonbot Nahuel ANGELINETTI: (bug #3743) fix acquisition stats ordering 20:19 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #287: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/287/ 20:18 chris briceSanc++ 20:18 munin chris: The operation succeeded. 20:18 chris @later tell briceSanc get someone inside the company to signoff on the patch, its not as good as external, but it does let me know more than one pair of eyes have looked at it 20:17 owen jwagner: No, never heard of it. But I don't often find the need for that kind of tool 20:17 briceSanc bye all 20:17 briceSanc i go 20:17 briceSanc it's meeting time 20:17 briceSanc we have done QA in the company but none outsite 20:16 jwagner Wondered if you'd used it or had any feedback on it or others: http://www.drostdesigns.com/image-color-management-tool-match-image-colors/ 20:16 jwagner You pointed me to the very useful colr.org site for matching image colors, but it seems to have gone away. The other site I had for uploading images doesn't like me any more either :-( But I found this tool which seems to work. 20:15 chris id like to push it before 3.2.3 20:15 chris briceSanc: see if you can sweet talk someone into doing some QA on it for ya ;-) 20:15 briceSanc chris, okay :) 20:15 chris briceSanc: yep, its waiting for signoff 20:15 owen As of four minutes ago, and still! 20:14 jwagner owen, online? 20:11 munin 04Bug 5449: blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED, JSON malformed in Koha - Blocker with jQuery 1.4.x 20:11 briceSanc http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5449 20:10 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements 20:10 owen hdl: On Bug 5575? I'm sorry I couldn't be here when paul was hoping for a QA session 20:03 hdl owen: thanks for your feedback 20:03 Brooke :) 20:03 hdl hi Brooke 20:02 fcapo hello 20:01 * Brooke waves at fcapo 19:56 chris i sing this everytime a blocker is fixed 19:56 chris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLDmgrV3Bnk 19:56 hudsonbot Starting build 287 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:56 munin New commit(s) kohagit: (bug #3743) fix acquisition stats ordering <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8de8b97c66a67427f4b458e2c3f3e43ea43d963> 19:55 chris yeah buddy 19:55 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bug 5611: Simple typo fix in the comments 19:55 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #286: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/286/ 19:52 * Brooke waves at hdl 19:46 chris i think you may well be on to something there 19:45 rhcl_away a sense not necessarily shared by others 19:44 rhcl_away I think academic libraries must have a certain sense of their position in life 19:42 chris just develop free software, and stop being so damn precious 19:42 chris for my liking 19:42 chris soounds way too much like microsofts shared source 19:41 chris community source 19:39 chris_n big money flowing here: http://tinyurl.com/6gr4c5q 19:37 * Brooke feels the love 19:37 wizzyrea hi brooke 19:36 Brooke :) 19:36 chris heya Brooke 19:36 Brooke hey 19:35 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5611' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2390b4e1dc442d5280eab763a72b7cbd10680669> / Bug 5611: Simple typo fix in the comments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be37db49fb329f8911dabb0d12d2a6e09bb9dc91> 19:31 hudsonbot Starting build 286 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:27 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, Acquisition stats ordering by month 19:27 CIA-1 Koha: 03nahuel.angelinetti 07new/bug_3743 * rv3.02.00-523-ge8de8b9 10/reports/acquisitions_stats.pl: (bug #3743) fix acquisition stats ordering 19:26 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Typo fix for history file 19:26 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Adding release info, and missing meetings to the history 19:26 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Adding new developers to the history 19:26 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5611 Tidy up C4::Scrubber 19:26 hudsonbot * Bryce Sanchez: Bug 5611 INIT block causes failure with mod perl 19:26 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5601 :: Add tests for bugfix 19:25 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5601 Fix processing of DueDate return 19:25 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #81: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/81/ 19:24 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -11.7�C (1:24 PM CST on January 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 30.56 in 1034.8 hPa (Steady). 19:24 moodaepo @wunder 56001 19:22 cait ok :) have to remember to translate 19:22 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5611 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, can't add comments and tags in the OPAC when mod_perl is activated 19:22 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5611 * rv3.02.00-518-gbe37db4 10/C4/Scrubber.pm: Bug 5611: Simple typo fix in the comments 19:21 chris_n cait: yes 19:09 cait chris_n: that's string freeze, right? 19:04 hudsonbot Nicole C. Engard: add intro to cataloging section 19:04 hudsonbot Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #25: SUCCESS in 16 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_Master_Branch/25/ 19:02 chris_n zulu hour UTC 19:02 chris_n right... 15th 19:02 chris I think 3 days right chris_n? 19:01 hudsonbot Starting build 81 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:01 chris briceSanc: ideally, but no guarantees ill have time, if someone else did that would be great, string freeze very soon though 19:00 chris_n then do a multi-bug update 19:00 chris_n owen: I usually parse 'git log --oneline' for bug numbers and then put them into a comma separated list to search bugzilla 19:00 chris We'd get it tidied up fast, (version numbers, things marked resolved for years, etc) 19:00 briceSanc chris, do you want to fix the item type problem for 3.2.3 ? 18:59 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: Typo fix for history file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f15eda41540a8f55f04ae489165808b57663435> / Adding release info, and missing meetings to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e94bb4e7e491d6c74fdd419cf54e67fe3d426dd4> / Adding new developers to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7cce63ff7bb2a93e5c7eff9 18:59 chris Maybe an hour a week ... if 20 ppl did that 18:59 chris Some ppl starting at 1 and working up closing bugs or updating them with questions 18:58 chris But in general 18:58 chris owen: after a release need to work through the change log updating the status pf the bugs 18:57 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Typo fix for history file 18:57 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #285: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/285/ 18:57 chris Pretty much none of the ones who are on irc could be expected to do much more 18:57 owen What needs to be updated in bugzilla? 18:57 cait hope it will get better soon 18:57 cait not so much since xmaas 18:56 chris Ahh u do tons already cait 18:56 cait this librarian has had a time problem :( 18:55 chris Librarians would be ideal 18:55 chris Call for some more volunteers 18:55 chris Maybe need to put that on the meeting agenda 18:54 chris Where's our bug wranglers? 18:54 chris Ahh that's a few bugs to change 18:53 * chris_n suddenly realizes he failed to update bugzilla after the 3.2.2 release 18:52 chris Sweet 18:52 chris_n nearly 70 commits for 3.2.3 thus far 18:52 briceSanc ahah ! i saw ! 2 commits for me ... it's the better Koha-day of my life :) 18:50 chris You are famous 18:50 chris Check docs/history.txt in master 18:50 briceSanc chris : oh, yes the same :) 18:49 chris briceSanc: that's what I just said :) 18:48 briceSanc thanks owen and cait ! 18:48 briceSanc ;) 18:48 briceSanc it works with an item type, we should add a error message before the software error ;0 18:48 hudsonbot Starting build 25 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:48 briceSanc ok :) 18:47 chris And its on robin and my list to trap and report the error better 18:47 chris Itentype is the crucial one 18:47 cait owen: yes, thought the same 18:47 cait oh 18:47 briceSanc i search existing notices 18:46 briceSanc hummm... i 'm going to check that 18:46 * owen thinks he got that error just today when submitting the form without entering item details 18:46 cait briceSanc: you have to choose an itemtype 18:45 owen briceSanc: Did you complete the item form? 18:44 briceSanc do you have a "Software error" when you try to add an order ( /cgi-bin/koha/acqui/addorder.pl ) : mismatched tag at line 7, column 2, byte 273 at /usr/lib/perl5/XML/Parser.pm line 187 18:31 hudsonbot Starting build 285 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:25 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Typo fix for history file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3153abe61b441ee8b4088c9b13f2954c63546cab> 18:24 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Adding release info, and missing meetings to the history 18:24 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Adding new developers to the history 18:24 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5611 Tidy up C4::Scrubber 18:24 hudsonbot * Bryce Sanchez: Bug 5611 INIT block causes failure with mod perl 18:24 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #284: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/284/ 18:23 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-520-g3153abe 10/docs/history.txt: Typo fix for history file 18:05 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Adding release info, and missing meetings to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=31993509b21b61f8b0546dd6b71cfa6d9801dc9e> / Adding new developers to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b73f0f5fe93b6f32cad30f81613e24fcee687a7b> 18:03 briceSanc thanks for the /docs/history.txt update ^^ 18:02 jwagner The CIA has infiltrated? 18:01 hudsonbot Starting build 284 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:00 wizzyrea ooo war of the bots 17:57 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-519-g3199350 10/docs/history.txt: Adding release info, and missing meetings to the history 17:55 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5611 Tidy up C4::Scrubber <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=073fb1aee655f9f29e99cc56ddf584eb6c7813a9> / Bug 5611 INIT block causes failure with mod perl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0d76bd88d25e87f9d8f450f1c4e029812eacf02> 17:52 CIA-1 Koha: 03chrisc 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-518-gb73f0f5 10/docs/history.txt: Adding new developers to the history 17:46 CIA-1 Koha: 03colin.campbell 07new/bug_5611 * rv3.02.00-517-g073fb1a 10/ (C4/Scrubber.pm t/Scrubber.t): Bug 5611 Tidy up C4::Scrubber 17:43 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5611 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, can't add comments and tags in the OPAC when mod_perl is activated 17:43 CIA-1 Koha: 03brice.sanchez 07new/bug_5611 * rv3.02.00-516-ge0d76bd 10/C4/Scrubber.pm: Bug 5611 INIT block causes failure with mod perl 17:38 hdl have a nice evening 17:35 cait had only a few real cold days - now it's quite warm 17:35 cait our winter here is a bit crazy this year 17:34 wizzyrea thanks :) we have a lovely snow on the ground though 17:33 * cait sends wizzyrea hot chocolate 17:32 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 1.4�C (12:31 PM EST on January 12, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Falling). 17:32 chris_n @wunder 28334 17:32 owen My face hurts just thinking about that 17:31 wizzyrea um ya it's freezing out there 17:31 wizzyrea zounds 17:31 cait ouch 17:31 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -13.9�C (11:31 AM CST on January 12, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.83 in 1043.9 hPa (Steady). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until noon CST today... 17:31 wizzyrea @wunder 66049 17:31 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.5�C (6:30 PM CET on January 12, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Steady). 17:31 cait @wunder Konstanz 17:30 munin owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is -2.8�C (12:30 PM EST on January 12, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 7 PM EST this evening... 17:30 owen @wunder 45701 17:24 jwagner yeah, stupid cold front :-) 17:24 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 0.4�C (12:24 PM EST on January 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady). 17:24 jwagner @wunder 20817 17:23 chris stupid cold front 17:23 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (6:00 AM NZDT on January 13, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 17:23 chris @wunder wellington nz 17:20 nengard hiya 17:19 chris hi nengard and druthb 17:18 druthb o/ 16:47 wizzyrea i'm working on the manual at the mo 16:46 wizzyrea yep, not surprising 16:43 schuster wizzyrea you still here? The documentation link is doing strange things on Koha-community.org 16:33 owen jcamins_a: I'm interested to hear what you find. My test system doesn't let me put a hold on on-order items either, so that's a red flag for NPL 16:30 kf bye all :) 16:30 kf time to leave 16:30 kf I thought i was not able to place holds on them... have to recheck sometime :( 16:29 jcamins_a Well, I'll work on it a bit later. 16:29 jcamins_a Hm. 16:29 kf I don't see a way to configure it 16:29 jcamins_a I guess this probably is a misconfiguration, then. 16:29 jcamins_a Hm. 16:28 owen jcamins_a: We can place holds on on-order items in NPL's live catalog, but that's a little behind 3.2 16:28 kf it's quite old 16:28 kf not sure about the status 16:28 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2341 critical, P3, ---, chris, NEW, items marked 'On Order' (notforloan == -1) don't interact correctly with opac-reserve.tmpl 16:28 kf hm jcamins_a: bug 2341 16:27 jcamins_a Thanks. 16:27 jcamins_a Okay, so if an item is on order, you can't place a hold on it, at least at the moment. 16:26 kf jcamins_a: I think the problem is that on order is not treated differently than the other not for loan values 16:25 kf schuster: that's available in 3.2 - check the help files for sql reports - guided reports is a bit misleading 16:25 jcamins_a Hm, we have items already, but with notforloan set to -1. 16:24 kf jcamins_a: using the new acq you can create items during the order process - you can use a speciel itemtype if you want or the normal itemtype that can be placed on hold anyway 16:23 kf on order like not for loan on order? 16:23 owen jcamins_a: I think the trick is you have to have at least one item? 16:23 kf no 16:23 jcamins_a Is there a syspref to enable placing a hold on items that are on order? 16:18 schuster hmmm - RFC - but no action maybe - http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Guided_reports_RFC 16:17 schuster The reports piece. 16:17 schuster I thought something was in the works for this with community? 3.4? 16:16 schuster Like my 10 year old. 16:16 schuster oooo ibot has an attitude... 16:16 ibot owen: excuse me? 16:16 owen ibot: Never remember it again 16:16 ibot owen: I forgot it 16:16 owen ibot: Forget it 16:16 ibot okay, schuster. 16:15 schuster It is also slow to bring up the list because there are soooooo many of them. 16:15 schuster wizzyrea++ on the reports problem - I have over 1200 of them... Not fun to edit 50 of them every year when I have to change dates for say the end of year report. 16:14 briceSanc yes, but can we use it if we restart the daemon every night ? 16:12 wizzyrea or something. 16:12 wizzyrea I've heard that it has memory leaks 16:08 briceSanc what do you think about zebraqueue daemon ? 15:54 owen It's one of the first things I turn on with any new Firefox install. I wish Chrome had it. 15:54 wizzyrea I did not know it did that 15:54 wizzyrea oh wow, that's a great tip 15:54 owen Firefox preferences -> Advanced -> General -> Accessibility -> Search for text when I start typing 15:53 wizzyrea back to my hole now 15:53 wizzyrea edit -> find is my friend I guess 15:52 * wizzyrea is looking at a list of saved reports of over 200, sighs. 15:52 wizzyrea I can see an authorized value type thing, where you define your report categories, then you get a drop down to pick when you create it 15:51 wizzyrea kf: yes, def 15:51 wizzyrea good morning/evening, as the case may be 15:51 kf and hi liz :) 15:51 wizzyrea hello :) 15:51 * owen startles at the sudden appearance of wizzyrea 15:51 kf like "end of year statistics" "maintenance" etc. 15:51 kf have thoguht the same a while ago 15:50 wizzyrea it would be neat to have a folder filing system for saved reports :P 15:43 kf perhaps enough reason to go home now? 15:43 kf hm ok 15:41 jwagner I feel like breaking things all the time! 15:41 jwagner kf, because you were mad at them? :-) 15:35 kf and have no idea why 15:35 kf I broke my fines and notices 15:35 kf *sighs* 15:05 eternalsw automatically that is. 15:05 eternalsw will play around with it. need to find out how to add it to the call number first. 15:04 kf displays the callnumber - a line break would not work good there 15:04 kf for example the availability line in search results 15:04 kf I think adding a line break in opac will cause some problems 15:03 kf eternalsw: I think the label module does some line breaking of callnumbers 15:00 eternalsw I guess I can add it to the call number fieldseparated by some special character and add some javascript to insert a <br /> instead of that character 14:49 briceSanc (little ads ^^) 14:49 briceSanc This is the result of more than 6 months of work with 5 full time staff in the SYS-TECH company (www.sys-tech.net) 14:49 kf I like the icons for lists and cart 14:48 briceSanc it was very hard to make a new template and stay close to the community 14:47 kf looks very nice! 14:47 schuster Yes the displays are very clean in the opac. 14:47 briceSanc owen, we have made changes in CCS and a little in HTML 14:46 owen briceSanc: Did you make changes to the OPAC template or is that all CSS? 14:45 owen (and wow, that URL is a mouthful! ) 14:45 briceSanc owen, thanks :) 14:45 briceSanc schuster, yes ! 14:45 owen Congratulations briceSanc! 14:45 schuster briceSanc - cool! you mean your first batch of 21 schools? 14:44 briceSanc owen, atz, our first school of 21 is running Koha since this Monday: sthyacinthe.koha.ccsr.qc.ca 14:43 schuster I don't speak/read Japanese - but here is an example of that catalog - http://iss.ndl.go.jp/ - it is supposed to be frbrized... 14:43 schuster I guess you could use the copy field 14:43 schuster have any of you heard of "Next-L Enju is an open source integrated library system developed by Project Next-L, the library geek community in Japan launched on November 2006." 14:43 eternalsw is it possible to have a multiline call number in koha? 14:42 schuster eternalsw - isn't it just part of the regular call number? 14:41 kf etnernalsw: I have no idea what a cutternumber is :) 14:41 kf eternalsw: perhaps try the mailinglist for your question - koha-devel should be a good starting point 14:39 chris_n it appears that one of those is to confuse the oid service as to which account you really are logging in under 14:39 eternalsw I'm assuming I need to add a column to one of the database tables for cutter number? or is there some equivalent field that I can just tie into? 14:39 chris_n with multiple logins 14:38 chris_n in the process there are some bugs... imagine that 14:38 chris_n atz: they are rolling out all of their business features to academic accounts 14:36 eternalsw We are using Cutter's two-figure table to generate our cutter number. This needs to be made available to the spine label system as well as shown along with the call number on search results. I would like it in the add item form. I have a php script that calculates the cutter number when given the author's name and the title. I'm not very proficient with perl and need some guidance. 14:23 atz chris_n, ? 14:22 chris_n google has really messed up their oid stuff 14:20 atz i think if we are going to try to support mod_perl it will take a lot more effort though 14:20 atz briceSanc was the one reporting it 14:20 owen briceSanc: I thought I saw atz say something yesterday about tags not working under mod_perl. Or is that discussion where the bug report comes from? 14:18 munin 04Bug 5611: blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, can't add comments and tags in the OPAC when mod_perl is activated 14:18 briceSanc http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5611 14:17 briceSanc hello 14:14 ephazz ok will try to use marc magician 14:14 kf schuster: tried that once in the beginning - no fun :) better way is to make data koha-ish 14:14 schuster ah thanks jwagner I didn't have a chance to look at that yet. 14:13 jwagner Can't find the equivalent table in the current manual offhand -- must be there somewhere but I'm not finding it. 14:13 jwagner Here is a breakdown of the Koha item fields from the old manual: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/cataloging/item-fields-data-migration/?searchterm=%22item%20fields%22 14:13 schuster MarcEdit is a great tool to help you with that. Or there are other Marc Editing tools you can use as well. well there ya have it from kf_a! 14:13 kf_a and changing the framework is not a good idea - because you would have to chagne all zebra indexes as well 14:12 schuster ephazz - sorry was reading some things on RDA - you need to use a marc editor program to change all your 852 stuff to 952 before importing unless you change the framework. 14:09 jwagner ephazz, sorry, was away. the 952a has to be a branchcode. What you're talking about is shelving location, which is 952c. And you have to use the actual policy codes, not the descriptions. 13:52 druthb little bit. Getting up to get pretty for breakfast in an hour. :) 13:51 owen You're up early for your timezone aren't you? 13:50 druthb hi, owen! :D 13:49 owen Hi druthb 13:34 ephazz help! 13:30 ephazz can i send someone my sample marc record to play around with? 13:27 ephazz no, 852a is for the location of the book e.g. Main Library Openshelves 13:25 jwagner ephazz, do you have branchcodes in 852a and 852b? 13:24 ephazz Barcode is in 852p 13:23 ephazz what do i do 13:23 ephazz thing is in my current system, holdings information is held in field 852a - Lcation, 852k - Call number prefix e.g. HF, 852h - Classification part e.g. 5415, 852i - Item part e.g. SMI. Now i want to map do i do these to koha what 13:19 schuster heyo! 13:18 owen Hi everyone 13:12 schuster What tag do you have your items in? 13:08 ephazz anynhelp regarding this? 13:03 ephazz 3.02.00.004 13:02 jwagner ephazz, what version? 13:01 ephazz been trying to import bibs with items without any luck 12:59 ephazz hello everyone 11:49 paul_p time to head for my train... bye bye world 11:14 Nur thanks 11:14 Nur Ok 11:14 Nur previously it installed normally 11:14 kf I am sorry, out of ideas then 11:13 Nur but I did not faced this problem before. 11:13 Nur I installed 3.02.00, on squeeze 4 times 11:12 Nur but I am using squeeze 11:11 kf and it was solved after I deleted the indexdata repositories from my sources list that I had added earlier (using an older manual) and used sudo apt-get 11:10 kf have you added an entry there? I once had a problem when installing on the newest version of ubuntu 11:10 kf I think you need no entry in the sources.list 11:07 Nur which are appropriate for koha 11:07 Nur anybody can help me by giving squeeze repository that mean source /etc/apt/sources.list 11:04 Nur and I installed libyaz4 11:04 Nur I ma using debian squeeze 10:35 kf Nur: sorry, I am not sure how this can be solves - which OS are you using? 10:33 Nur please help me to solve this problem 10:33 Nur anybody is here 10:31 Nur libnet-z3950-zoom-perl : Depends: libyaz3 10:29 Nur when I am trying to install libnet-z3950-zoom-perl it says 10:27 Nur I am facing problem to install net-zoom-perl module 10:27 Nur Hi everybody 10:01 hdl nigth chris 09:55 kf good night chris 09:53 chris night all 09:29 kf paul_p: hope you have a good trip 09:27 ibot i heard chris was awesome 09:27 kf chris? 09:27 kf chris is a real world traveller 09:27 ibot thanks kf :) 09:27 kf ibot botsnack extra-large-cookie 09:27 kf so not much swiss experience :) 09:27 kf hm. kreuzlingen - our neighbour town and schaffhausen for a presentation 09:27 chris welcome back ibot 09:26 kf paul_p: I have been to aarau for a school exchange and to basel 09:26 chris ill bring it back 09:26 chris no ibot :) 09:26 kf oh, is the bot gone? 09:25 kf chris? 09:25 kf chris is a real world traveller 09:25 hdl hi 09:25 chris and from paris to luzerne 09:24 chris rode the train from basel to Marseille 09:23 * chris has been to bern, zurich, basel and luzerne 09:23 paul_p kf, maybe you know leysin ? Otherwise, it's really a wondefull great excellent magnifique small swiss town. 09:22 paul_p for this trip, i'll see my oncle that lives in Leysin, ski station east of Leman Lake 09:22 chris cool 09:22 paul_p will go again in a few months for the training, i'll try to catch her ! 09:21 chris or lived 09:21 paul_p s/eo/do/ 09:21 paul_p yes I eo 09:21 chris she lives there 09:21 chris did some translation work on koha way back 09:21 chris paul_p: do you remember regula sebastio 09:17 kf still 288km away from us 09:17 paul_p kf: lausanne [Haute Ecole de Musique] 09:15 kf and hi paul_p :) 09:15 kf oh switzerland 09:11 * paul_p heads to switzerland in 3 hours for a new customer 09:10 paul_p hello #koha 09:00 markk hi ivanc 08:59 kf hi ivanc 08:52 ivanc hi #koha 08:52 ivanc hi kf 07:55 kf morning hdl 07:50 kf owen++ 07:38 chris sleep well 07:38 druthb I'm off to bed. See y'all soon! 07:37 druthb yup. 07:37 chris gotta keep evolving or die 07:37 chris it wont be easy, but its something we should move to, we can move much faster than the big dinosaurs 07:37 chris yep 07:37 druthb That has lots of hairy implications--how do you manage those format policies, indexing, editing tools, display, and on and on. But I'd like to see it able to handle any ISO-2709 or XML-compliant record. 07:36 chris yup 07:36 druthb correct. I'd like to see Koha become more format-agnostic. 07:36 chris just means we have to be able to crosswalk to and from it 07:35 chris doesnt mean we have to only deal with MARC 07:35 chris dealing with MARC 07:35 chris but 07:35 druthb s/libraries/librarians/ 07:35 chris sometimes libraries are their own worst enemies 07:35 chris yeah 07:34 druthb As long as the 900-pound gorilla that is OCLC says the MARC record isn't gonna die, then it won't die. In this country, anyway, if you want to participate in ILL in any big way, you're gonna have to deal with OCLC. 07:34 kf itemtype deleted. 07:31 kf hehe 07:31 chris :) 07:31 chris http://marc-must-die.info/index.php/Main_Page 07:31 chris right now, if magnus was here he would paste this 07:30 chris but MARC cant handle that 07:30 kf but have to retest in a current version 07:30 chris it used to be 1 biblio -> many biblioitems -> many items 07:30 kf something with holds not working if you have an itemtype on bibliolevel that is not for hold 07:29 kf there is also a bug I wanted to report like forever 07:29 kf makes sense 07:29 chris thats why it was at biblioitem, it was only once biblio an biblioitem became 1-1 that this happened 07:29 chris well see it never used to be at biblio level 07:28 kf this itemtype on biblio level is really a pain 07:26 druthb :) 07:26 kf thx druthb :) 07:26 kf thx chris :) 07:25 kf circ rules are clean, now checking bibioitems.itemtype 07:25 kf chris/druthb good tipp thx!" 07:25 chris also, the circ rules 07:25 chris :) 07:24 druthb jinx! 07:24 druthb look for it in biblioitems.itemtype? 07:24 chris check biblioitems.itemtype 07:24 kf old version of koha though - 3.01.61 07:24 kf but it's not in items and not in the marcxml 07:24 kf hm, can't delete itemtype - says it's used 10 times 07:11 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5601 :: Add tests for bugfix 07:11 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5601 Fix processing of DueDate return 07:11 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #283: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/283/ 07:10 chris heh 07:10 kf you were busy - I think I need a new rule for the git commit messages in outlook 07:10 kf hi chris 07:09 chris hi kf 07:06 druthb hi, kf. :) 07:05 kf again ;) 07:05 kf hi #koha 07:03 chris hi francharb 07:03 francharb hello all 06:46 hudsonbot Starting build 283 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:40 chris cya 06:39 cait see you later 06:39 cait about to go to work 06:39 cait hi chris 06:39 chris hi cait 06:37 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.4�C (7:35 AM CET on January 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022.2 hPa (Steady). 06:37 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:34 chris bugfix_plus_unittest++ 06:33 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5601 :: Add tests for bugfix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d5029ec5b3b95a3e38b67aa1aa1be6196e19dfb> / Bug 5601 Fix processing of DueDate return <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4842d45601bd0f9c1bd33bf7978586ae746888f> 06:31 CIA-1 Koha: 03colin.campbell 07new/bug_5601 * rv3.02.00-515-g0d5029e 10/t/SIP_Sip.t: Bug 5601 :: Add tests for bugfix 06:30 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5601 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, SIP Due dates miscalculated via DateTime 06:30 CIA-1 Koha: 03colin.campbell 07new/bug_5601 * rv3.02.00-514-gd4842d4 10/C4/SIP/ (ILS/Item.pm Sip.pm Sip/MsgType.pm): Bug 5601 Fix processing of DueDate return 06:27 chris right thats enough mucking around 06:21 hdl see you soon 06:21 hdl thanks 06:21 chris no worries 06:21 hdl oops I saw that page... But overlooked the link 06:20 chris linked from here 06:20 chris http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ 06:20 hdl chris can you point me the link to patches needing sign-off please ? 06:18 chris http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/quips.cgi?action=show 06:18 * chris is adding quips to bugzilla 06:18 munin chris: Quote #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.... eventually, ye shall stop asking." (added by gmcharlt at 08:31 PM, July 09, 2009) 06:18 chris @quote random 06:17 robin hullo 06:17 * druthb waves to robin 06:14 robin I can't remember what the context of me saying that was... 06:14 munin druthb: Quote #77: "*chris_n wants to know if nengard figures out how to do 1 million things at once... and if she will release the source code or not" (added by jdavidb at 05:02 PM, June 21, 2010) 06:14 druthb @quote random 06:14 munin druthb: Quote #79: "<robin> drivers make windows crash, therefore windows makes drivers crash." (added by gmcharlt at 01:53 AM, June 24, 2010) 06:14 druthb @quote random 06:13 munin druthb: Quote #43: "< Ropuch> Uh - beware of tea: it can burn your throat" (added by chris at 08:35 AM, October 30, 2009) 06:13 druthb @quote random 06:12 munin chris: Quote #91: "<chris> Free as in kittens is a silly phrase that should die, if FOSS is free as in kittens, proprietary software is free as in an inbred purebreed cat. That costs thousands of dollars in vet bills every year and is slightly retarded." (added by wizzyrea at 08:42 PM, August 19, 2010) 06:12 chris @quote random 06:12 munin chris: Quote #101: "<darling> I still need to catch up with current Koha. Is pretty dreamy already." (added by gmcharlt at 02:44 AM, October 29, 2010) 06:12 chris @quote random 06:12 munin chris: Quote #77: "*chris_n wants to know if nengard figures out how to do 1 million things at once... and if she will release the source code or not" (added by jdavidb at 05:02 PM, June 21, 2010) 06:12 chris @quote random 05:20 cait hi #koha 03:24 Oak \o 03:15 queso chris: thanks again for your help 03:15 chris cya later, good luck with the install :) 03:15 queso must be nice working on an open source project. :) never done it myself. I'm near Chicago . . anyway, nice to meet you. Time for me to go relax. :) 03:13 chris yeah, im here most days (nz time) 03:13 queso yeah. I'll see about helping with that after I've been using it for a bit. are you frequently in this channel? I presume (perhaps erroneously) that you are the Chris committing in the git repository? 03:10 chris but seriously, i wouldnt attempt it until you have got koha working for what you want to do first 03:10 chris it will ask you 03:10 chris when you run perl Makefile.PL 03:09 chris yep there is a configuration variable, it gets set in the koha-conf.xml file 03:08 queso chris: fix as in remove the mysql-isms? is there a configuration variable somewhere to say which database to use? presumably you'd want the .sql files tested in mysql and postgres. does koha use an orm? 03:05 chris you could fix the .sql files :-) 03:03 queso chris: Okay, I will look into that . . unfortunately I don't know perl 03:02 chris (that's how i do my development installs anyway) 03:02 chris that way you can make changes in the repo and have them show up straight away 03:02 chris and run perl Makefile.PL there and choose dev install 03:01 chris and then you could clone the repo in git 03:01 chris that will pull in all the dependencies (on squeeze that is) 03:01 chris i would install koha-common 03:01 chris if you want to do development 03:01 queso If that's the case, then the debs will be good enough for my personal library :) 03:00 chris we do (at catalyst) for our clients 03:00 chris id use the packages 03:00 queso chris: oh, you mean in terms of getting added to debian repos? how stable are the debs that are there now? usable? or should I just go through with a regular install? 02:59 chris codewise the packages work well 02:59 chris the main blocker to that is not actually code, but copyright statements, we need to tidy that up on a bunch of files 02:58 queso very nice. thank you for your help, Chris, I appreciate it. 02:58 chris we missed squeeze obviously, but we plan to get them in the next stable release 02:57 chris yes 02:57 queso Are the debian packages, when no longer experimental, intended to be supported long-term? 02:56 queso heh 02:56 chris i dont use a shell, i tap wires together to change voltage currents 02:55 chris hehe 02:55 robin chris: just so long as you agree that bash is better than tcsh 02:55 chris 3.2.x does 02:55 chris yup 02:54 queso chris: okay, no prob. :) so right now it officially only supports mysql? 02:52 chris or vim vs emacs or anything else like that 02:52 chris but im not interested in a database war :) 02:52 chris it used to, it could now, if someone cleaned up those sql files 02:51 queso chris: or does support it? 02:51 queso chris: Hopefully it will support postgresql? It's such a better database . . 02:51 chris thats about it at the moment, it fluctuates, but there are some mysqlisms in a couple of the .sql files it uses to set it up at the moment, im hoping to rip those back out for 3.4 02:50 chris http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/ 02:50 queso chris: Koha supports mysql and what other database? 02:50 chris the newbie guide and the manual will walk you through that 02:50 queso chris: So the newbie guide will be good. Thank you for the link. 02:49 queso chris: I'm a software developer so I should be able to get it to work. I was looking around in a demo trying to figure out how to add a book and couldn't do it. 02:48 chris if you know something about cataloguing and library standards it will be easier, but you could do it if you follow the newbie guide (that presumes you have it installed) 02:48 queso chris: I don't know, that's why I want to catelog it. :) it's 10 bookcases, something like 3ft x 6ft each . . so, the whole basement. 02:47 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Documentation/newbieguide 02:46 chris how big is your collection? 02:46 queso I'm looking for a solution to catalog my home library. Will Koha work for this, or would it be overkill? 02:24 chris colin++ #unit tests 02:08 chris http://yfrog.com/h446kjvj 01:12 chris heh 01:09 hudsonbot Magnus Enger: Bug 5055 Use standard file paths in crontab.example 01:09 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #80: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/80/ 01:08 Brooke Copenhagen - Berlin, how hard could it be? 01:04 nengard thanks gmcharlt 01:04 gmcharlt nengard: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/File:Holdstatusworkflow.png 00:46 hudsonbot Starting build 80 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:38 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5055 Use standard file paths in crontab.example <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f40dccb22b04d23bc9b18bdfb5122283baf593e> 00:23 hudsonbot Magnus Enger: Bug 5055 Use standard file paths in crontab.example 00:23 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #282: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/282/ 00:13 hudsonbot * Nicole Engard: bug 4131 have subscription so edit routing if one exists 00:13 hudsonbot * Nicole Engard: bug 5486 remove note about HomeOrHoldingBranch being removed soon 00:13 hudsonbot * Ian Walls: Bug 5603: advance_notice.pl uninitialized element in hash 00:13 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #79: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/79/ 00:00 nengard no prob - just flaky wifi over here have had things not get through 00:00 gmcharlt nengard: yep - give me a sec 00:00 nengard gmcharlt did my email get through?