Time Nick Message 00:07 * jcamins has a very tilted oven. 00:08 jcamins pianohack++ # for bug wrangling 00:10 pianohack Now, time to use munin to harass some bug reporters 00:10 pianohack _obviously_ the intended use of "later tell" 00:11 jcamins pianohack: of course. 00:18 pianohack There, that should be the right time to RESOLVED FIXED bug 5520 :) 00:18 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5520 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, pianohacker, RESOLVED FIXED, No .packages file for Ubuntu Maverick 00:19 chris AH HA 00:19 chris git show 3daa3143 00:19 * chris finds out why availability searches dont work 00:19 chris if you revert that patch, they do 00:20 chris and then 00:20 jcamins Wait, so why does it work for most libraries? 00:20 chris i know why it works for mine 00:21 chris http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=35c1afd38b43fc9fb0f49b1efdd79554572cc430 00:22 jcamins Ah. 00:22 chris but id like to know if it works for you .. if you have that 3daa3143 commit 00:22 chris and availibility search works 00:23 jcamins I didn't try. 00:23 jcamins Hold on. 00:23 chris thanks 00:24 jcamins What on earth does the availability search *do*? 00:24 chris looks for items taht arent lost 00:24 chris and arent on loan 00:24 pianohack chris: Confirmed broken on fairly-up-to-date koha install with that commit 00:24 chris ta 00:24 jcamins http://donum.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=book&limit=available 00:25 chris yeah, that commit is retarded 00:25 jcamins It's not doing what it's supposed to, but I haven't the foggiest idea what it is doing. 00:25 chris now its searching for the word available 00:25 jcamins Ohh. 00:25 jcamins I see. 00:25 jcamins This is about 3.01.145, I think. 00:26 chris yeah nov 9 2009 00:26 chris Removing filter available and hidelostitems at Biblio level 00:26 chris i fixed it jan 1 2010 and promptly forgot to chase it up 00:26 jcamins Sorry, 3.01.00.135 00:26 chris i will resurrect that patch and get people to test 00:27 chris i thought i was losing my mind for a while there 00:27 chris i guess no one uses it :) 00:28 jcamins We don't because very few of our records have items. 00:28 chris yeah 00:28 chris i wonder why the heck it was commented out, that commit tells me nothing, except it wasnt signed off 00:30 chris interesting 00:30 jcamins They needed the ability to keyword search by available? 00:30 chris you can do that :) 00:30 jcamins Oh. Well, I'm out of ideas, then. 00:31 pianohack AFAICT, the code in Search.pm only checks the limit, not the general search 00:31 chris yeah 00:32 chris ahh look 00:32 chris yeah you dont want to revert 00:33 chris http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=3daa3143ffada2730bf3f9b63670118ac6a0bb11 00:33 chris followed by 00:33 chris http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=c4f19cbac91ebb22c71729221b2b6c233ccd339c 00:33 chris looks to me like there should have been another 2299 commit to fix availability too 00:33 jcamins Ah. 00:33 * chris will hunt the biblibre repo now 00:34 chris nope only one there too 00:34 chris looks like htey got halfway through changing how the were both implemented and didnt finish 00:35 chris ill try to catch up with hdl and find out if he can remember 00:35 chris but at least have tracked down the issue 00:35 pianohack Should I really be asking the original reporter to be RESOLVEing these really trivial bugs? For many, you want to make sure it was fixed the way they wanted, but there's really only one way to fix something like bug 4176 00:35 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4176 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, MIME missing from sys prefs interface 00:35 pianohack chris++ # for detective work :) 00:35 chris really trivial ones, its fine to just mark them resolved 00:36 pianohack k, will do, thank you 00:48 chris jcamins: did you ever here back from the code4lib people? 00:49 chris hear too 00:49 jcamins Not yet. 00:50 chris ah well, it was worth a shot :) 00:50 jcamins But it was fixed. 00:50 chris oh cool 00:51 jcamins (just saw) 00:51 chris awesome 02:03 * druthb returns to the keyboard after coping with Stuff That Happens Abruptly. 02:03 chris thats the worst kinda stuff 02:04 druthb yah, was messy. 02:04 druthb how's chris today? 02:06 chris not too bad, its pretty quiet 02:06 druthb :) 02:06 druthb want some loud? I have a-plenty. 02:06 chris ill pass :) 02:07 druthb aww!! 02:35 * wasabi waves from kapiti... 02:36 chris feeling SMART ? :) 02:51 wasabi heh, i havent read that email yet... 02:52 wasabi is it an acronym even? 02:52 chris yes 02:52 chris Share and Manage a Region Together 02:52 chris its obviously one they came with 02:52 chris to fit the letters 02:53 wasabi yep :) 03:11 wasabi i really must remember to join that list, and others... 04:01 Oak \o 04:02 pianohack Hello, Oak 04:02 Oak hiya pianohack :) 04:07 Brooke kia ora 04:22 pianohack Hey Brooke 04:22 Brooke :) 04:23 Brooke thanks for giving the project your holiday time. 04:23 pianohack Hehe, np 04:23 pianohack Fairly relaxing, compared to school 04:23 Brooke nothing is as stressful as school 04:23 pianohack By the way... are cait and kf different people, perchance? 04:23 Brooke I am absolutely convinced of that. 04:23 pianohack (and indeed) 04:23 Brooke nope 04:23 pianohack Woopsie 04:25 Brooke gah bid time. 04:30 pianohack Oak: Don't know if we've been introduced 04:31 Oak let's fix that :) 04:32 pianohack My name's Jesse Weaver, I'm a freshman in college that screws around with Koha's admin interface in his spare time and has done various odd Koha jobs for the past few years 04:33 Oak pleased to meet you Jesse 04:33 pianohack yourself? 04:34 Oak I am Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla. 04:34 Oak where are you from? pianohack 04:34 pianohack I'm from southern Colorado, in the US 04:35 Oak kewl 04:35 pianohack You're from Pakistan? 04:35 Oak yup 04:35 pianohack (Guessing from an IP lookup) 04:35 Oak traceroute? 04:35 pianohack http://www.maxmind.com/app/lookup_city 04:35 pianohack Useful for occasional curiosity :) 04:36 pianohack How's Pakistan? 04:36 Oak not great. as you may know. 04:36 Oak corrupt government. inflation. no security. hundreds of other issues 04:37 Oak you know, the usual 04:37 pianohack Yeah, hasn't sounded pleasant 04:38 pianohack So do you already have an undergrad degree, or how are you studying for your degree? 04:39 Oak yes I have an under grad degree. But not in Library Science :) 04:39 pianohack Computer science? (that's what I'm studying, just curious) 04:40 Oak Yes. And my boss persuaded me to go for Library Sc. instead of computer science masters. 04:42 pianohack If its anything like the States, you can get a lot of jobs with a masters in library science 04:43 Oak that's what my boss said about here, in Pakistan :) Here, not many people go for Library Science. And there is need for LS professionals. 04:54 pianohack Okay, good night, koha 06:26 cait hi #koha 06:30 hdl hi all 06:30 cait morning hdl 06:30 hdl hi cait 06:30 cait today is my last day at work this year :) 06:31 hdl oh good... For me it will be tomorrow. 06:31 hdl So If we donot have any chance, 06:31 hdl Frohe Weinachten. 06:31 cait we don't have to work tomorrow 06:32 cait Frohe Weihnachten :) 06:33 hdl Und Die allerbesten Wünsche 06:33 hdl fûr die neue Jahre. 06:38 cait an d a happy new year :) 06:51 hdl ach.... Rechtschreibung... Ich dachte es war gut... 06:51 hdl ok... time to take the bus. 06:52 cait es war sehr gut 06:52 cait see you later hdl 08:02 magnus kia ora, #koha 08:04 hdl hi magnus 08:05 magnus hiya, flying fox! 08:07 magnus hi matts 08:07 matts hi 08:20 kf morning #koha 08:20 kf chris: any chance you are still around? :) 08:20 magnus hiya kf 08:21 kf hi magnus 08:53 francharb hello #koha 08:54 magnus hello francharb 09:41 wasabi "Skype goes titsup across globe" 09:41 wasabi http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/22/skype/ 09:42 wasabi nice headline... ;) 09:44 wasabi ooooohh.... 09:44 wasabi http://idle.slashdot.org/story/10/12/23/0149242/New-Zealand-Government-Opens-UFO-Files 09:45 wasabi stuff.co.nz is about to get a slashdot :) 09:48 magnus hehe 09:48 wasabi i sure hope their .NET server is fully patched!?! 09:49 wasabi lol 09:50 magnus .NET?!? 09:51 wasabi hur hur 09:54 wasabi very nice 'page-viewer' .app in UFO story tho… :) 09:55 wasabi and a apple-osx dock effect too! (on the bottom) 09:59 wasabi oooh, and a GUI switch for ubuntu too, a big deal... 09:59 wasabi http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/12/22/unity_ubuntu_the_future/ 10:00 wasabi … that is quite ambitious.. but sounds good? :) 10:01 magnus um, not sure about that... 10:01 magnus "Unity also moves application menus out of the window and into the global menu bar, a la OS X" 10:02 magnus i hate that 10:02 braedon|h it is fine for full screen apps - so i like it on my netbook 10:03 braedon|h but on desktop? no thanks 10:03 wasabi agreed, dont force *that* on me, of all things 10:03 magnus yup! 10:03 braedon|h hopefully they will change it so that it only does it when the window is maximised 10:03 braedon|h or just let you disable it 10:03 wasabi hell yeah, but hay…. i understand why someone thinks its a good idea :/ 10:04 magnus oh well, there will always be other distros if ubuntu does something stupid ;-) 10:05 wasabi everyone will just disable it, when the hack becomes a 1-liner ;) 10:05 wasabi but, the big picture sounds great! 10:06 wasabi if great = not X11 , lol 10:07 magnus and taking mobile, tablets etc into account is probably a good strategy 10:25 wasabi a good read on the topic too... 10:26 wasabi http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/ubuntu_embraces_unity_and_wayland_or_gnu_linux_exciting_again 10:44 hdl @mediawiki-- A,y idea how o import smoothly a table (ggl spreadsheet) in mediawiki 10:44 munin hdl: Error: "mediawiki--" is not a valid command. 10:46 magnus hdl: i think you can use the html for the table in mediawiki? 10:47 hdl would be hard for ppl to edit would it not ? 10:48 magnus yeah, tables are hard to edit anyway, i'm afraid... 11:04 magnus http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables 11:45 wasabi hdl: convert ggl table to csv, then import csv to mediawiki :/ 11:45 wasabi … it looks to be the best way forward 12:55 nengard any git experts around? I have two commits I need to revert on the manual now that code has been pulled out ... tips on how to do that? 12:58 hdl nengard: git revert commitid 12:58 hdl git push 12:58 nengard thanks hdl! 12:58 hdl and you're set ;) 12:59 hdl which code are you referring to ? 12:59 nengard the manual 12:59 ibot the manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 12:59 nengard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commitdiff;h=9db3a9db681308513720e531813ea90701c2138b 12:59 nengard and 12:59 hdl which code has been pulledout 12:59 Oak \o 13:00 nengard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commitdiff;h=03f99ef6dde44cf9432aeed35692ff0bc236fbca 13:00 nengard OH! - sorry - the circ and fine rules changes 13:02 nengard hi owen and chris_n 13:02 owen Hi 13:02 ibot salut, owen 13:02 owen Safe travels yesterday nengard? 13:02 chris_n heya nengard 13:02 nengard yep, only a tini tiny delay 13:02 owen Are you there or back now? 13:03 nengard now time to catch up on over 200 commits that aren't in the manual yet (did the bugs last week - or whenever that was) 13:03 nengard I'm home 13:04 nengard how do i get a commit id? 13:05 owen Working from what nengard? 13:05 nengard git 13:05 nengard if i'm in the manual repo and i want to revert a commit i need the commit id 13:06 owen You could use git log to browse the last commits 13:07 nengard and so in this section: 13:07 nengard commit 41fcbc4dc15e3f1f0bf0537ed9e4a3988e197314 13:07 nengard Author: Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> 13:07 nengard Date: Tue Dec 14 11:05:36 2010 -0500 13:07 nengard the commit line is the ID? 13:07 owen Yes 13:09 nengard thanks 13:10 nengard grrr 13:10 nengard looks like i might not be able to do this as a revert 13:11 nengard warning: Cannot merge binary files: en/images/admin/patroncirc/addcircrule.png 13:11 owen You've got me there nengard 13:12 nengard yup 13:12 nengard okay - will just do new screenshots, it's only 2 images 13:15 Oak \o 13:22 nengard okay manuals reverted ... i think :) 13:25 owen Oh, here we go: UI bling! http://www.loadinfo.net/ 13:25 * owen is gonna light up Koha like a Christmas tree! 13:27 jwagner Yikes! 13:28 * jwagner distracts owen with a large spiked eggnogg.... 13:28 magnus yay, the animated gifs are back! 13:28 owen Sorry, no dice. I can't think of anything that goes less well with a good spike than egg. 13:29 magnus party like it's 1997! 13:29 jwagner Hmmm. How about some spiked cookies? 13:31 * owen would be happily distracted that way 13:41 * jwagner ships lots of cookies in the general direction of Ohio 13:42 * owen will stand at the border checking all vehicles 13:42 owen Better with an animated gif? http://screencast.com/t/Rpoun2HeLO6 13:43 * jwagner doesn't want owen to freeze; am arranging a parachute drop 13:50 magnus owen: it doesn't hurt, methinks 14:21 kf http://www.swr.de/nachrichten/bw/-/id=1622/nid=1622/did=7397422/7pbfho/index.html :( 14:22 jwagner kf, that's not your building, is it? 14:22 kf no 14:22 kf but right in the middle of the old parts of the city / shopping district 14:23 kf 2 people hurt, 4 buldings damaged 14:23 kf 15th century buildings 14:23 jwagner Not good :-( 14:24 kf no 14:24 kf 250 firemen and other helpers 14:24 kf they expect they will have to watch it for 3 more days 14:26 kf I was there yesterday, several times, while shopping for christmas presents 14:39 jcamins Good morning, #koha 14:39 jcamins Scary! 14:41 owen The quandry of a bug fixer: After my changes, the feature is broken in IE. But before my change, it was broken *differently* in IE. Progress? 14:42 * magnus_a wishes everyone a very merry holiday! 14:52 nengard another git question, i just commited some changes to the 3.4 manual and realized I need the same things on the 3.2 manual, but I didn't create a patch - is there a way to generate a patch after the fact? 14:54 owen You can specify a previous commit ID with git format-patch 14:54 nengard found it! :) 14:55 nengard gonna get these darn things up to date before the end of today if it kills me 14:55 nengard I'm way way way too far behind 14:56 nengard @later tell wizzyrea can you pull the manuals to the koha site when you get a chance - also there needs to be a link to the 3.4 manual since it's diff from the 3.2 one (only a little - but different just the same) 14:56 munin nengard: The operation succeeded. 14:56 owen nengard: You're worth more to us alive than dead 14:56 nengard this is true .... 14:56 nengard but you know what I meant :) 14:57 kf hdl: the problem with diacritics is a known issue - I think chris already has the solution, but it's not on the branch yet 14:57 owen I just wanted to express my appreciation in a bounty-hunter-ish sort of way :) 14:57 kf hdl: he made me change one line in Template.pm and after that it worked :) 14:57 kf hdl: there are also some other small issues - but it overall it works really great 14:59 hdl nengard: git cherry-pick commitid 14:59 Brooke TÄ“nÄ koutou 15:00 hdl would have done the trick 15:01 hdl kf: I was not sure it was exactly the same issue. 15:01 hdl kf: But yes... It reminded me something. 15:02 hdl kf: do you also have the feeling that Template::Toolkit goes faster ? 15:02 kf not sure - I am testing on a slow and old laptop 15:02 hdl kf: I might be distracted by the flashy new tools 15:03 kf new tools? 15:06 druthb o/ 15:06 * Brooke smiles at druthb 15:07 jcamins wizzyrea: Good news for Kansas: balloon rides on untethered balloons are not subject to the state's amusement tax. :D 15:07 jcamins Good morning, druthb. 15:07 druthb howdy! :) 15:07 Brooke excellent, my dirigible shall escape the LAW 15:08 jcamins Brooke: but only if it's untethered. Tethered balloon rides are subject to Kansas's amusement tax. 15:09 Brooke I shall store it in a hangar outside Kansas. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it ;P 15:10 Brooke of course! 15:10 Brooke we can totally purchase a zeppelin and use that to get to NZ regularly. 15:10 Brooke this plan cannot possibly fail. 15:10 nengard jcamins where the heck did you find that bit of news? hehe 15:11 * Brooke points out that jcamins is a pedlar of the obscure. 15:12 kf Brooke: we have zeppelins around here.. 15:12 Brooke I know, you're totally holding out on the community :P 15:12 kf flying over the city and the lake in summer 15:13 drotsk morning #koha 15:13 Brooke if only I had pursued a lucrative and sexy career in criminal justice. I'd be able to commandeer a craft. 15:13 Brooke hey drotsk 15:13 drotsk ooh zeppelins 15:13 drotsk o/ 15:13 Brooke but not Led ones 15:13 Brooke \ooo/ 15:14 drotsk i find it interesting that alternate realities in many tv shows always seem to show the ubiquity of zeppelins 15:14 druthb Brooke, we're not *that* far from Lakehurst; think we could find one there, and commandeer it? 15:14 Brooke >.> 15:14 Brooke <.< 15:14 Brooke we have no authoritay 15:14 jcamins nengard: "interesting taxes." 15:14 * druthb hands Brooke a clipboard. 15:15 druthb Anyone walking around with a clipboard and looking worried is assumed to be on something important. 15:15 druthb Fake it til you make it. 15:15 Brooke meh, I've had much more success going where I'm not meant to be with a greasy bag and or pizza box. 15:15 druthb oooh, yeah. That works too. 15:16 owen Man you should have seen the look on the plain-clothed cop's face when I asked him if he had a permit to carry a handgun into the library 15:17 Brooke tee hee 15:17 owen He should have thanked me 15:17 * Brooke is notorious for hassling the Albany Chief of Police for photo identification and a letter from home. 15:17 jcamins Heh. Well, at least his disguise was effective, right? 15:17 * druthb pictures the Mighty Owen facing down a big ol' cop. 15:17 Brooke I give him much credit for realising why I had to do it. 15:18 Brooke it's not hard to picture Owen doing that at all. 15:18 drotsk nope, i can totally see owen doing that 15:19 * drotsk highfives owen 15:19 druthb hm. 15:19 druthb ibot: drotsk 15:19 ibot druthb: huh? 15:19 druthb ibot: drotsk? 15:19 ibot druthb: i haven't a clue 15:19 druthb pity. 15:19 Brooke ibot: owen? 15:19 ibot rumour has it owen is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, covered in awesome brilliance 15:19 * Brooke titters. 15:19 drotsk and sparkles! 15:20 * druthb waits for it... 15:21 drotsk drotsk? 15:21 ibot you are, like, wizzyrea's hubby, and a ukulele afficianado 15:21 drotsk there we go 15:21 * Brooke wonders if ibot is just making shite up. 15:22 drotsk naw 15:22 sekjal brb 15:22 druthb ibot: Brooke? 15:22 ibot i think Brooke is certainly gonna go 15:22 druthb ibot: forget Brooke 15:22 ibot druthb: I forgot brooke 15:22 druthb ibot: Brook is just plain awesome, okay? 15:22 ibot no idea, druthb 15:22 druthb ibot: Brooke is just plain awesome 15:22 ibot OK, druthb. 15:23 * druthb checks her own spelling. 15:23 Brooke ibot: forget Brooke 15:23 drotsk \o/ 15:23 ibot Brooke: I forgot brooke 15:23 druthb harrrumph! 15:25 Brooke @roulette 15:25 munin Brooke: *click* 15:26 * druthb hands pistols to ibot and hudsonbot, just to even the odds. 15:27 nengard got a question about suggestion emails - are they being sent to anyone who submits a purchase suggestion? 15:27 * Brooke wonders if she'll end up the target of another firing squad... 15:27 nengard or is there supposed to be a preference or messaging option for patrons to decide if they get that email? 15:28 Brooke I think there might be two separate toggles. 15:28 drotsk this is what I imagine playing while ibot and hudsonbot duke it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tx0Zl9RNuE 15:28 nengard where might i find those? cause i'm not seeing them 15:30 nengard this is in reference to the commits of bug 4211, bug 5127 and bug 5126 15:30 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4211 major, P2, ---, chris, NEW, Acquisitions actions on suggestions don't generate email 15:30 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5127 major, P5, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, No sample suggestions notices are installed by default 15:30 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5126 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Suggestions module missing from "add notice" form. 15:31 owen nengard: I don't know of a setting for that 15:31 nengard yeah - i'm not seeing one, so i'm assuming the system just sends the emails (now that it's fixed) 15:31 nengard I don't have emails on on my system to test with 15:37 kf nengard: I think you can perhaps deactivate it by deleting the notices templates? 15:38 kf have thought about it too - a system preference would be nice 15:39 nengard that's an idea 15:40 nengard kf i'd say it should be part of the enhanced messages - to let the patron decide if they want the emails or not 15:40 kf nengard: even better :) 15:41 nengard off to submit a enhancement :) 15:41 kf but perhaps an on /off for the feature would be good too 15:41 kf have both 15:41 Brooke *nod* 15:41 kf so library can decide if they want to offer the mails 15:41 Brooke I agree kf. 15:41 kf and let patron decide if he wants to get them 15:43 nengard bug 5539 submitted 15:43 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5539 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Options for Suggestion Emails 15:47 kf :) 15:47 kf nengard++ 15:49 nengard hmmm .. what's bug 5352 about? 15:49 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5352 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Suggestion messages to patron 15:49 nengard is that related? 15:54 kf probably 15:54 nengard hmmm - thinking I might have to hold off on documenting this until i understand better 15:54 nengard and know what controls the sending of these emails 15:54 kf I think at the moment they are always sent out 15:55 kf if you have the templates - but I have not fully tested it yet 15:55 nengard hmmm 15:55 kf missing email on my laptop too 15:55 nengard k - gonna write it up 15:55 nengard we can always revert the manual edits if necessary :) 16:02 jcamins What's the CCL prefix for searching for biblio-level itypes? 16:05 Brooke bonjour francharb 16:06 francharb Hey Brooke! how is it going today 16:06 francharb ? 16:06 Brooke good enough for gummint woik 16:07 jcamins itemtype, for the record. 16:07 Brooke and you? 16:08 francharb well, too much work but i should not complain, my bosses are overhere! ;) 16:10 francharb gummint woiik? 16:10 francharb you working for the government? 16:10 francharb ahah 16:11 Brooke nope 16:11 Brooke it's slang 16:11 francharb i feel like i never had english classes 16:11 francharb hehe 16:11 * Brooke doesn't speak standard English of any flavour. 16:11 francharb you mean hard work? 16:11 Brooke so don't feel bad. 16:11 owen Brooke can have that effect on people francharb 16:11 Brooke nope, easy work. 16:11 jcamins francharb: don't worry, I'm a native English speaker, and I can't always figure out what Brooke means. ;) 16:11 francharb lol 16:12 francharb thanks 16:12 wizzyrea it's a slang saying playing off of the fact that government workers often do just enough to get by 16:12 francharb ok 16:12 wizzyrea so to say that it's good enough for government work means that it's enough to get by :) 16:12 Brooke that's why I write documentation, so people can't figure what I mean or what Koha does ;) 16:12 francharb LOL 16:20 nengard oh bugger - just found another section of the manual that I never wrote!!! 16:20 Brooke d'oh 16:20 francharb thats a bummerf 16:20 Brooke it's all those damn new features. ;) 16:20 nengard who is running Koha 3.2.2? I really need to get another VM set up with 3.2 so that I have HEAD and 3.2 in two places 16:20 nengard no time to do that though 16:21 * Brooke has often wondered why there is no developer sandbox. 16:21 * owen supposes he ought to ditch his 3.0.x setup and do a 3.2.x one... 16:21 Brooke everyone's running their own independent installations and it's kinda weird. 16:22 nengard if there were a dev sandbox then we'd be stepping on each other's toes while we worked 16:22 Brooke obviously we have to run the right one for our Libraries 16:22 nengard we need our own systems to play on and then all submit to one place 16:22 Brooke if you're changing stuff 16:23 Brooke if you're figuring stuff out, is that really still necessary? 16:23 hdl nengard: yes... but having a common reference or a common site to play with... could be helpfull sometimes. 16:23 owen jwagner around? 16:24 jcamins It'd be like patch hockey- jcamins changes C4/Biblio.pm, but wait, nengard swoops in, grabbing C4/Biblio.pm she shoots, she... is stopped by pianohack's modification of C4/Reserves.pm! 16:24 Brooke you're both assuming no one is talking to one another 16:25 hdl jcamins: which one ? 16:25 owen There's no reason for multiple people to be developing at the same time on the same system 16:25 jcamins hdl: you should probably ignore me- I only have three more days here, and I'm *really* feeling it. 16:25 owen Testing maybe, but even then you've got system preferences being switched 16:26 owen @later tell jwagner I have a question about Bug 3479 when you get a moment 16:26 munin owen: The operation succeeded. 16:27 nengard jcamins i like that image :) 16:29 kf ok, time to start holidays :) 16:29 jcamins Lucky you! 16:29 kf bye all! 16:29 jcamins nengard: yes, it has a certain charm to it. 16:29 owen jcamins: Three more days in your job? 16:29 jcamins Well, three and a half, since it's only 11:30. 16:30 nengard :) 16:30 jcamins This afternoon, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. 16:30 owen Then what? 16:30 ibot Then is equal to 16:31 * druthb shoots a rubber-band at ibot 16:32 jcamins This is equal to? 16:32 jcamins *Then is equal to? 16:32 jcamins What? 16:33 jcamins I can't even imagine a context when that statement would make sense. 16:33 jcamins Anyway, starting in January I'll be able to focus more of my time on Koha. :) 16:34 jcamins Ah-ha! 16:34 Brooke ibot: then is equal to later. 16:34 ibot ...but then is equal to... 16:34 Brooke ibot: forget then 16:34 ibot Brooke: I forgot then 16:34 jcamins Chris was giving instructions on how to search bugzilla. 16:35 Brooke ibot: then is equal to later. 16:35 ibot OK, Brooke. 16:43 owen ibot: There is no spoon. 16:43 ibot ...but there is some latency in the transfer of translation-manager... 16:43 owen ibot: Forget there 16:43 ibot owen: I forgot there 16:43 owen ibot: There is no spoon. 16:43 ibot OK, owen. 16:43 Brooke ibot: spoon? 16:43 ibot brooke: i don't know 16:43 Brooke ibot: there? 16:43 ibot it has been said that there is no spoon. 16:43 nengard heh 16:45 jcamins spoon? 16:45 ibot There is no spoon. 16:47 Brooke 0/ 16:47 |Lupin| Hello, everybody 16:47 owen Hi |Lupin| 16:47 |Lupin| hey owen ! :) 16:49 |Lupin| When I worked with Koha I once saw an excellent document explaining how to ensure that mysql is configured correctly, especially regarding character encodings 16:49 |Lupin| I'd need this documen but can't find it again 16:49 owen Yeah, it was part of the old wiki 16:49 |Lupin| can anybody remember such a thing, please ? 16:50 owen Do we still have that backup of the old wiki? 16:50 |Lupin| owen: yes ! It was one of the places I thought it could be. 16:50 |Lupin| I do hope... :-) 16:50 jcamins I think it's on the new wiki now. 16:50 jcamins Let me see if I can find it. 16:50 |Lupin| it'd be worth having it in the new one, too, wouldn't it ? 16:50 jcamins http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Encoding_and_Character_Sets_in_Koha 16:50 owen |Lupin|: We lost some content from the old wiki because the authors wouldn't consent to releasing their work under GPL 16:51 |Lupin| jcamins: oh, wonderful ! thanks !!! 16:52 |Lupin| owen: hmm ? wasn't the old wiki in GPL already ? 16:52 owen The content was not explicitly said to be so 16:52 druthb hi, |Lupin|! 16:53 cait hi all :) 16:53 |Lupin| hello druthb :-) 16:54 |Lupin| hey, cait :-) 16:54 |Lupin| owen: ah, I see... 16:54 cait hi |Lupin| :) 16:54 |Lupin| tendency to take it for granted that everything is under GPL / creative commons as soon as one is in the free software field 16:55 owen Some disagree, unfortunately. 16:56 |Lupin| yes... too bad... 17:02 jwagner owen, sorry, I've been on the phone for a while -- you wanted me? 17:02 owen jwagner: Sorry for the Bugzilla bomb, I did some reassigning. 17:03 owen Bug 3479 17:03 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3479 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Prompt to save patron edits 17:03 jwagner yes, I noticed the bomb :-) 17:03 owen jwagner: This feature asks you if you're sure you want to save the patron record? 17:04 jwagner yes 17:04 owen Wouldn't it make more sense to prompt the user if they *don't* try to save the record? 17:05 cait like: you have unsave changes, do oyu want to save them now? 17:05 jwagner You mean if they try to navigate away from the page without saving? Yes, possibly. 17:05 jwagner But the client asked us for a "are you sure" check on saving, so that's what we wrote :-) 17:06 owen I just don't see what their motivation was. 17:06 jwagner They were trying to make Koha work a lot like Horizon in several areas, this may have been one of them. 17:10 owen My inclination is to mark that as "won't fix" because it doesn't seem widely useful 17:15 jwagner owen, I've actually found it useful myself a few times, when I edited a field I didn't mean to -- clicking cancel leaves me in the patron record so I don't lose other changes but can fix the problem one 17:27 nengard owen for bug 1883 you say that we need to create some default values, what does the category have to be for this pull down to show? 17:27 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1883 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Managing Suggestions - authorised list of reasons why patron requesting book 17:28 |Lupin| hey nengard :) 17:29 nengard Hi Lupin 17:29 owen nengard: "OPAC_SUG" 17:29 nengard oh you know i think i knew that 17:29 nengard now that you say that :) 17:29 nengard am i right that this hasn't been pushed to head yet? 17:31 owen I think just to a QA branch 17:32 nengard k - that's what i thought 17:32 nengard am down to 110 commit emails to read (from 300) 17:34 |Lupin| just out of curiosity, a question for the developers here 17:35 |Lupin| hasanybody already seen apache2 segfault on somerequest ? 17:35 |Lupin| and if yes, what have the causes been ? 17:36 |Lupin| I am asking because this happens tome in aproject which is not related to Koha. I have been suggested that it may come from an encoding problem 17:36 |Lupin| and I'm wondering whether this looks like a reasonable hypothesis to you guys 17:50 * jcamins wishes he were left-handed like everyone else in his family. 17:51 hdl hi |Lupin| happy new year... 17:51 |Lupin| hey hdl, thanks! 17:52 |Lupin| hdl: happy new year to you too, and to your relatives 17:52 |Lupin| have to go now but may be able to come backin the coming days 17:52 |Lupin| bye all 17:53 owen wizzyrea around? 18:07 owen Hi sekjal 18:07 sekjal hi owen 18:18 francharb dinner time!! 18:18 francharb bye all 18:21 nengard welcome back sekjal 18:21 nengard so - nothing like last minute - my last 2 presents arrived today (to be handed out tomorrow) 18:23 sekjal thank, nengard. and I've still got a present to wrap sometime tonight.... 18:23 nengard oh i didn't say it was all wrapped :) 18:23 nengard just that ups just dropped off the last 2 18:33 briceSanc hello everybody 18:34 cait hi sekjal and briceSanc 18:34 sekjal hi cait! 18:36 briceSanc We regularly have problems with "memcached" Is it necessary to reboot regularly? 18:37 cait briceSanc: we don't use it at the moment 18:38 cait but I had some problems with it (acq framework was not showing up) 18:38 briceSanc How to disable it? 18:38 cait not sure 18:38 ibot not sure are you using git? 18:39 cait or better don't know 18:39 cait I have not activated it during install 18:39 briceSanc because every time we restart memcached, the page reappears correctly. 18:39 briceSanc ok 18:39 briceSanc yes i'm using git in head/3.2.x 18:40 cait you should file a bug 18:40 cait so it can get fixed or added to documentation 18:41 nengard @later tell wizzyrea okay i'm done with manual updates for today (i think) 18:41 munin nengard: The operation succeeded. 18:42 wizzyrea owen: i'm here now 18:42 nengard you mean nicole :) 18:42 nengard and good! 18:42 nengard oh you were answering owen from before :) 18:42 nengard hehe 18:43 wizzyrea hehe yea 18:43 owen wizzyrea: I've been looking at some of the Harley-related bug reports 18:43 wizzyrea aha 18:44 owen wizzyrea: I wondered if 4241 is worth looking into 18:44 owen Bug 4241 18:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4241 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Add lost/claims returned displays to patron record 18:45 chris Most of them need a bit of a rewrite 18:46 chris If you're up for that :) 18:46 wizzyrea that is actually helpful 18:46 owen chris: I hesitate to do work that others should be doing, but if there are useful things there I'll hold my nose 18:46 chris That one looks useful 18:47 wizzyrea ok. Now, for real work. 18:47 * wizzyrea goes to look at the "needs testing" bugs 18:48 briceSanc thks cait, we're trying to stop memcached in koha 18:49 chris Just take out the memcached lines in koha-conf.xml 18:49 cait morning chris 18:49 chris That will stop koha using it 18:49 briceSanc chris, cool :) 18:49 chris Morning cait 18:49 * owen is having a hard time understanding the github interface re: what changes have been made 18:50 chris Owen luckily for you 18:50 chris There is a ptfs-wip repo 18:50 chris On git.kohacommunity.org 18:51 chris So you can use the more familair gitweb to look 18:51 chris Last day of work for 2010 for me today 18:52 briceSanc chris, me too :) 18:52 owen Oh, thanks chris. I looked for that but didn't find it 18:59 cait chris: it iwll be over fast 18:59 chris Yep 19:00 chris Beer o'clock starts early today 19:00 chris I'm already drunk .... 19:00 chris Well not really, its 8am :) 19:00 owen Quick, ask chris to approve all your half-assed patches! 19:02 chris Heh 19:02 chris My stop, bbiab 19:11 chris back 19:12 owen Wow, Accounts.pm has a lot of FIXMEs 19:12 cait I am not surprised 19:13 cait accounts / fines have some serious translation problems too 19:13 cait but I haven't found a way to solve it 19:13 cait those things get saved to the database :( 19:13 chris yeah, its due a rewrite 19:18 nengard sekjal is always saying that accounts needs a rewrite 19:19 cait and he is right 19:19 cait :) 19:20 chris i suspect it will have to wait for 3.6 19:20 wizzyrea which isn't all that far away anyhow 19:23 cait no 19:23 cait time is a scary thing 19:23 cait moving very fast 19:27 jwagner Sorry, I've been away from my desk for a while -- was someone asking for me? 19:37 chris those are some cool features id love to work on 19:37 owen ? 19:37 chris OPAC Enhancement email to the koha-devel list 19:38 owen Are you going to have it wrapped up in time for Christmas? :) 19:38 chris im not gonna have anytime to do it... but those are perfect projects for a compsci student 19:38 * chris looks at pianohack 19:38 chris :) 19:39 chris im not sure the academy kids will be up to it 19:39 cait :) 19:39 chris chris who is doing the template work could .. but he is busy :) 19:50 richard hi al 19:50 richard all even 19:50 richard i don't think al is here 19:54 chris :) 20:00 owen wizzyrea: Do you have patron images enabled? 20:01 wizzyrea I don't :/ 20:01 * owen sees a layout problem on moremember.pl with patron images enabled, just wondered if it was just me 20:02 chris i do, but i dont have many photos in there 20:02 wizzyrea I will check it! 20:02 owen chris: But wizzyrea is using Harley 20:03 chris oh right 20:03 wizzyrea ohhh you meant on harley 20:03 * wizzyrea was confused 20:03 chris i rode on one of those once 20:03 owen Yeah, sorry, I'm testing the changes in Bug 4241 20:03 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4241 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Add lost/claims returned displays to patron record 20:03 chris ah right 20:03 wizzyrea it's a machine precision engineered to turn fuel into noise 20:04 owen ibot: A Harley is a machine precision-engineered to turn fuel into noise 20:04 ibot OK, owen. 20:04 chris my dad used to ride a triumph 20:04 chris thunderbird 20:05 chris when he was in high school 20:05 chris 15 year old on a 650cc bike .. yeah thats a good idea :) 20:05 wizzyrea oi vey 20:05 wizzyrea harley? 20:05 ibot i think harley is a machine precision-engineered to turn fuel into noise 20:06 wizzyrea <3 20:06 chris he used to ditch school and ride over the port hills 20:06 chris in christchurch 20:06 chris to get fish and chips 20:06 wizzyrea you mean shark and potatoes? 20:06 chris yup 20:06 wizzyrea ^.^ 20:06 chris cept we dont use shark anymore 20:06 chris but it would have been back then 20:06 wizzyrea now see, someone told me you did 20:06 briceSanc happy holidays ! 20:06 drotsk ah, the much vaunted engineering to convert gasoline into noise, without the side effect of horsepower 20:07 wizzyrea but they may have been making fun of the dumb american 20:07 briceSanc and merry christmas ! 20:07 chris they stopped about 15 years ago 20:07 briceSanc bye ! 20:07 chris thanks briceSanc 20:07 chris bye 20:07 chris wizzyrea: too much mercury in shark 20:07 wizzyrea that's true I suppose: top end of the food chain and all that 20:07 chris Triumph obtained further publicity with Marlon Brando's 1953 motion picture, The Wild One, in which he rode a 1950 6T Thunderbird. 20:07 chris now picture my dad as marlon brando 20:07 chris hehe 20:08 wizzyrea O.O 20:08 chris he only had one crash 20:09 wizzyrea well technically, one is all you need :P 20:09 chris when he was fanging along and hit a bee 20:09 chris no full face helmets back then 20:10 chris so he took up gliding instead 20:10 chris consequently ive never had problem getting permission to do crazy things :-) 20:10 drotsk i can see it, i've met the man. :P 20:11 wizzyrea hahaha 20:12 chris http://kupu.maori.nz/ 20:12 chris get a new maori word a day 20:14 drotsk hÄkari KirÄ«himete indeed 20:20 * owen realizes this must be what git cherry-pick is for... 20:24 chris *nod* 20:24 chris well be far less pain than trying to rebase 20:25 owen Every time I think I can get away with not knowing something about git... 20:25 chris :) 20:26 owen Can you pass a series of commits to git cherry-pick? Will it do them in order? 20:26 chris hmm, im not sure about that, have never tried doing that 20:27 chris i usually just ahve 2 windows open one with git log and the other one i cherry-pick into 20:27 chris http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1994463/how-to-cherry-pick-a-range-of-commits-and-merge-into-another-branch 20:27 chris doesnt seem like you can 20:28 chris but rebase --onto might be the way to do it 20:28 chris i do like stackoverflow 20:36 gmcharlt owen: yes, you can cherry-pick multiple commits in one fell swoop 20:36 gmcharlt git cherry-pick commit1 commit2 etc 20:36 owen gmcharlt: And it will apply them in sequence? 20:37 gmcharlt yes 20:39 owen Hm, git didn't like that 20:39 owen It lectured me on cherry-pick options 20:43 gmcharlt what version are you using? 20:44 owen 1.7.1 20:46 gmcharlt hmm, looks like you have to go to 1.7.2 for cherry-pick to stop lecturing you 20:46 gmcharlt ah, from the release notes 20:46 gmcharlt * 'git cherry-picks' stops lecturing Owen Leonard and can now pick a range of commits 20:46 chris heh 20:48 cait lol 20:50 chris gmcharlt shouldnt write release notes and I shouldnt write bug status updates :-) 20:50 * gmcharlt especially shouldn't write release notes for projects he doesn't send patches to ;) 20:50 chris :-) 20:51 gmcharlt owen: but seriously, it does look like 1.7.2 is the first version that can handle ranges of commits when cherry-picking 20:52 chris i had to use 1.4.1 the other day 20:52 chris no stash :( 20:52 * gmcharlt winces 20:56 cait chris: I like your updates :) 20:57 cait merry christmas! :) 20:58 cait too early? 20:58 * cait goes back to packing 20:58 chris hehe 21:37 Brooke kia ora 21:40 * Brooke waves at sekjal 21:40 cait kia ora 21:40 * sekjal waves back 21:40 Brooke :) 21:41 chris hei Brooke and sekjal 21:41 Brooke he? 21:41 ibot he is picky 21:42 sekjal hey chris! 21:42 Brooke hei toki? 21:42 Brooke ;) 21:42 chris http://kupu.maori.nz/ for you Brooke 21:43 * Brooke does a little jig. 21:49 Brooke ibot druthb? 21:49 ibot i heard druthb was a geek. 21:50 chris brooke? 21:51 chris brooke? 21:51 ibot well, brooke is the author of the wonderful newbie guide, help her finish version 2 21:51 Brooke oh screw that 21:51 chris take that as payback for the cockatoo hat 21:51 Brooke ibot forget Brooke 21:51 ibot Brooke: I forgot brooke 21:52 chris ill do worse whne you arent around now 21:52 Brooke that is a fetching picture. 21:52 chris :) 21:52 wizzyrea omg i lol'd so much 21:52 wizzyrea at the cockatoo hat 21:52 * wizzyrea was there, and the picture was funnier 21:52 Brooke plus it manages to show off your son. 21:53 Brooke the only better thing would be if Laurel were in there somehow with the alternate boy. 21:53 * Brooke will get around to doing all sorts of Who's Who pages a bit at a time. 21:54 Brooke wanted to get the release managers nailed down first 21:54 Brooke even though everything is quite scant 21:54 Brooke surprisingly we are missing a template for the infobox for people. 21:54 chris i saw you started one 21:55 chris and killed it 21:55 chris you seen the whoswho page? 21:55 Brooke me goes to take a gander. 21:55 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 21:55 Brooke outstanding 21:55 * Brooke was planning to drill down the list after release teams 21:56 chris needs updating 21:56 Brooke and also folks like Rosalie and Jo. 21:56 chris particularly for ruth 21:57 Brooke well that's a blocker, so that's done. 21:57 chris danke 21:58 Brooke bitte 22:01 cait ? 22:02 cait hearing you 2 talk German makes me fear the worst 22:03 chris koha ueber alles 22:03 cait lol 22:04 * chris learnt about that poem at school 22:04 * cait ponders starting a German course on #koha 22:04 chris :) 22:04 cait Fröhliche Weihnachten! 22:04 cait which poen? 22:04 cait poem 22:05 chris hmm ill have to wikipedia i cant spell it right 22:06 chris Das Lied der Deutschen 22:06 chris it was when we were studying propoganda, and how the allies used propoganda in world war 2 22:06 * Brooke did nothing but heckle her poor German professor. 22:07 cait http://www.schwaebische.de/leben/vermischtes/fotoreportagen_galid,10517.html 22:07 cait :( 22:07 cait the house broke down 22:07 chris in english class no less 22:08 cait chris: don't know it 22:08 chris its the lyrics to the national anthem :) 22:08 Brooke oh wow. 22:08 chris oh noes ;( 22:08 chris did that just happen cait ? 22:08 cait today :( 22:09 chris what horrible timing 22:09 cait my mother lived in the small house next to the broken down house 22:09 cait and she worked in the shoe shop... in the big house 22:09 * Brooke hugs cait. 22:09 cait it's in the middle of the old city - lots of shops. I was there yesterday 22:09 cait long before I existed 22:09 cait but my mother told me everytime she visited me here 22:10 chris such a shame, hopefully no one was hurt? 22:10 cait chris: ok, I know the song - but only the third part 22:10 cait 3 people slightly hurt 22:11 cait and older couple living in the house I think 22:11 cait they had to get the woman through the window 22:11 cait and one fireman hit by something 22:12 chris hi druthb 22:12 druthb Hi, chris! :) 22:12 cait hi druthb 22:12 * druthb waves to cait 22:12 cait picture 52 is hard 22:12 cait druthb: the house broke down :( 22:12 cait waebische.de/leben/vermischtes/fotoreportagen_galid,10517.html 22:13 wizzyrea cait :( 22:13 wizzyrea is that near where you live? 22:14 wizzyrea (obviously in the same city) 22:14 cait yeah, the same city, right in the centre 22:14 cait I live a bit out of town 22:15 cait but I have been there yesterday 22:15 cait when I was shopping for christmas presents, it's near a central place and the main station, shopping mile 22:18 * druthb is muddling around with the Empathy IM client in Ubuntu. 22:19 cait druthb: I gave up on empathy, back on pidgin 22:19 * Brooke uses adium 22:19 Brooke but it could secretly be naughty. 22:20 druthb The conceptual model of a multi-protocol IM client is basically sound, but my brain just has trouble with it for some reason. I used Adium when I had a Mac. Since I could not see that anyone's here until they spoke, imma thinking that Empathy gets a -- 22:21 * druthb waves to Brooke, now that she knows she's not waving at thin air. 22:21 * Brooke only wishes she were thin air in the stead of hot air. 22:21 * druthb giggles 22:26 chris ok off to physio 22:26 chris bbiab 22:26 Brooke see ya 22:27 Brooke 0/ drotsk 22:27 * druthb waves to drotsk 22:27 drotsk hiya 22:27 wizzyrea l8r chris 22:27 druthb All right...off to reboot, to install updates. back dreckly, probably from pidgin. Empathy sucks rocks. 22:41 wizzyrea can we keep chris_n as release maintainer forever :P 22:42 cait can we keep chris too? 22:42 Brooke is he susceptible to bribery? 22:42 Brooke >.> 22:42 Brooke <.< 22:42 wizzyrea (i love his release notes) 22:43 cait :) 22:45 Brooke o/ 22:45 druthb o/ 22:45 cait wb 22:45 druthb oh, that's *so* much better! 22:45 cait hehe 22:50 cait I didn't like the way empathy displays the messages 22:50 cait there is no way to put the date/time at the beginnign of the line 22:51 druthb I also couldn't see a user list, and couldn't click a name to fling open a private window. Very annoying! 22:52 cait but now you are back 22:58 druthb yes! 23:01 chris back 23:02 Brooke welcome back 23:02 Brooke haere mae? 23:03 chris mai 23:03 Brooke ah 23:03 Brooke my Latin bad. 23:05 chris :) 23:12 cait and now she is gone again 23:13 Brooke such is life. 23:13 * Brooke suspects minion issues and general family time might be the cause of the bug. 23:18 * Brooke waves 23:18 * cait waves 23:18 * druthb reaches for the Velcro 23:18 * druthb attempted to add a Skype account in Pidgin, but Skype was not installed. Pidgin did not like that very much. 23:19 Brooke sounds like summat needs to fail gracefully. 23:19 sekjal a lovely weekend to you all! 23:19 chris cya sekjal 23:19 sekjal cheers, chris! 23:19 Brooke cheers 23:24 druthb ok...skype is in, and running fine.. now...let's try this again. 23:26 druthb whew. I seem to still be here. 23:26 * Brooke pokes ruth. 23:26 Brooke a yep. 23:26 * druthb pokes Brooke back. 23:31 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for bug 5451, can add tags with userlogin turned off <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=86458028b91d28ccf6944d41ad14fb89db512677> 23:42 druthb All right...the Velcro isn't work. Duct tape it is. 23:43 hudsonbot Starting build 245 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) 23:48 jcamins_a sekjal++ # for upgrading the ANS's catalog on Christmas Eve eve 23:49 Brooke not yet it's not. To a kiwi, yes. 23:49 jcamins_a Brooke: I'm pretty sure Christmas Eve is tomorrow. 23:49 jcamins_a I thought... 23:50 druthb yep. This is Christmas Eve Eve. :) 23:50 * Brooke thought you lost a day. 23:50 jcamins_a Heavens forfend! 23:56 jcamins Does anyone know what IRC client chris uses on his phone? I was just asked for a recommendation for a mobile IRC client. 23:56 chris andchat 23:56 jcamins Thanks. 23:56 Brooke The Chris is ever vigilant. 23:57 jcamins All hail Chris the ever-vigilant! 23:58 druthb :) 23:58 hudsonbot Starting build 246 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)