Time  Nick       Message
00:07 * jcamins  has a very tilted oven.
00:08 jcamins    pianohack++ # for bug wrangling
00:10 pianohack  Now, time to use munin to harass some bug reporters
00:10 pianohack  _obviously_ the intended use of "later tell"
00:11 jcamins    pianohack: of course.
00:18 pianohack  There, that should be the right time to RESOLVED FIXED bug 5520 :)
00:18 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5520 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, pianohacker, RESOLVED FIXED, No .packages file for Ubuntu Maverick
00:19 chris      AH HA
00:19 chris      git show 3daa3143
00:19 * chris    finds out why availability searches dont work
00:19 chris      if you revert that patch, they do
00:20 chris      and then
00:20 jcamins    Wait, so why does it work for most libraries?
00:20 chris      i know why it works for mine
00:21 chris      http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=35c1afd38b43fc9fb0f49b1efdd79554572cc430
00:22 jcamins    Ah.
00:22 chris      but id like to know if it works for you .. if you have that 3daa3143 commit
00:22 chris      and availibility search works
00:23 jcamins    I didn't try.
00:23 jcamins    Hold on.
00:23 chris      thanks
00:24 jcamins    What on earth does the availability search *do*?
00:24 chris      looks for items taht arent lost
00:24 chris      and arent on loan
00:24 pianohack  chris: Confirmed broken on fairly-up-to-date koha install with that commit
00:24 chris      ta
00:24 jcamins    http://donum.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=book&limit=available
00:25 chris      yeah, that commit is retarded
00:25 jcamins    It's not doing what it's supposed to, but I haven't the foggiest idea what it is doing.
00:25 chris      now its searching for the word available
00:25 jcamins    Ohh.
00:25 jcamins    I see.
00:25 jcamins    This is about 3.01.145, I think.
00:26 chris      yeah nov 9 2009
00:26 chris      Removing filter available and hidelostitems at Biblio level
00:26 chris      i fixed it jan 1 2010 and promptly forgot to chase it up
00:26 jcamins    Sorry, 3.01.00.135
00:26 chris      i will resurrect that patch and get people to test
00:27 chris      i thought i was losing my mind for a while there
00:27 chris      i guess no one uses it :)
00:28 jcamins    We don't because very few of our records have items.
00:28 chris      yeah
00:28 chris      i wonder why the heck it was commented out, that commit tells me nothing, except it wasnt signed off
00:30 chris      interesting
00:30 jcamins    They needed the ability to keyword search by available?
00:30 chris      you can do that :)
00:30 jcamins    Oh. Well, I'm out of ideas, then.
00:31 pianohack  AFAICT, the code in Search.pm only checks the limit, not the general search
00:31 chris      yeah
00:32 chris      ahh look
00:32 chris      yeah you dont want to revert
00:33 chris      http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=3daa3143ffada2730bf3f9b63670118ac6a0bb11
00:33 chris      followed by
00:33 chris      http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=c4f19cbac91ebb22c71729221b2b6c233ccd339c
00:33 chris      looks to me like there should have been another 2299 commit to fix availability too
00:33 jcamins    Ah.
00:33 * chris    will hunt the biblibre repo now
00:34 chris      nope only one there too
00:34 chris      looks like htey got halfway through changing how the were both implemented and didnt finish
00:35 chris      ill try to catch up with hdl and find out if he can remember
00:35 chris      but at least have tracked down the issue
00:35 pianohack  Should I really be asking the original reporter to be RESOLVEing these really trivial bugs? For many, you want to make sure it was fixed the way they wanted, but there's really only one way to fix something like bug 4176
00:35 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4176 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, MIME missing from sys prefs interface
00:35 pianohack  chris++ # for detective work :)
00:35 chris      really trivial ones, its fine to just mark them resolved
00:36 pianohack  k, will do, thank you
00:48 chris      jcamins: did you ever here back from the code4lib people?
00:49 chris      hear too
00:49 jcamins    Not yet.
00:50 chris      ah well, it was worth a shot :)
00:50 jcamins    But it was fixed.
00:50 chris      oh cool
00:51 jcamins    (just saw)
00:51 chris      awesome
02:03 * druthb   returns to the keyboard after coping with Stuff That Happens Abruptly.
02:03 chris      thats the worst kinda stuff
02:04 druthb     yah, was messy.
02:04 druthb     how's chris today?
02:06 chris      not too bad, its pretty quiet
02:06 druthb     :)
02:06 druthb     want some loud?  I have a-plenty.
02:06 chris      ill pass :)
02:07 druthb     aww!!
02:35 * wasabi   waves from kapiti...
02:36 chris      feeling SMART ? :)
02:51 wasabi     heh, i havent read that email yet...
02:52 wasabi     is it an acronym even?
02:52 chris      yes
02:52 chris      Share and Manage a Region Together
02:52 chris      its obviously one they came with
02:52 chris      to fit the letters
02:53 wasabi     yep :)
03:11 wasabi     i really must remember to join that list, and others...
04:01 Oak        \o
04:02 pianohack  Hello, Oak
04:02 Oak        hiya pianohack :)
04:07 Brooke     kia ora
04:22 pianohack  Hey Brooke
04:22 Brooke     :)
04:23 Brooke     thanks for giving the project your holiday time.
04:23 pianohack  Hehe, np
04:23 pianohack  Fairly relaxing, compared to school
04:23 Brooke     nothing is as stressful as school
04:23 pianohack  By the way... are cait and kf different people, perchance?
04:23 Brooke     I am absolutely convinced of that.
04:23 pianohack  (and indeed)
04:23 Brooke     nope
04:23 pianohack  Woopsie
04:25 Brooke     gah bid time.
04:30 pianohack  Oak: Don't know if we've been introduced
04:31 Oak        let's fix that :)
04:32 pianohack  My name's Jesse Weaver, I'm a freshman in college that screws around with Koha's admin interface in his spare time and has done various odd Koha jobs for the past few years
04:33 Oak        pleased to meet you Jesse
04:33 pianohack  yourself?
04:34 Oak        I am Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla.
04:34 Oak        where are you from? pianohack
04:34 pianohack  I'm from southern Colorado, in the US
04:35 Oak        kewl
04:35 pianohack  You're from Pakistan?
04:35 Oak        yup
04:35 pianohack  (Guessing from an IP lookup)
04:35 Oak        traceroute?
04:35 pianohack  http://www.maxmind.com/app/lookup_city
04:35 pianohack  Useful for occasional curiosity :)
04:36 pianohack  How's Pakistan?
04:36 Oak        not great. as you may know.
04:36 Oak        corrupt government. inflation. no security. hundreds of other issues
04:37 Oak        you know, the usual
04:37 pianohack  Yeah, hasn't sounded pleasant
04:38 pianohack  So do you already have an undergrad degree, or how are you studying for your degree?
04:39 Oak        yes I have an under grad degree. But not in Library Science :)
04:39 pianohack  Computer science? (that's what I'm studying, just curious)
04:40 Oak        Yes. And my boss persuaded me to go for Library Sc. instead of computer science masters.
04:42 pianohack  If its anything like the States, you can get a lot of jobs with a masters in library science
04:43 Oak        that's what my boss said about here, in Pakistan :) Here, not many people go for Library Science. And there is need for LS professionals.
04:54 pianohack  Okay, good night, koha
06:26 cait       hi #koha
06:30 hdl        hi all
06:30 cait       morning hdl
06:30 hdl        hi cait
06:30 cait       today is my last day at work this year :)
06:31 hdl        oh good... For me it will be tomorrow.
06:31 hdl        So If we donot have any chance,
06:31 hdl        Frohe Weinachten.
06:31 cait       we don't have to work tomorrow
06:32 cait       Frohe Weihnachten :)
06:33 hdl        Und Die allerbesten Wünsche
06:33 hdl        fûr die neue Jahre.
06:38 cait       an d a happy new year :)
06:51 hdl        ach.... Rechtschreibung... Ich dachte es war gut...
06:51 hdl        ok... time to take the bus.
06:52 cait       es war sehr gut
06:52 cait       see you later hdl
08:02 magnus     kia ora, #koha
08:04 hdl        hi magnus
08:05 magnus     hiya, flying fox!
08:07 magnus     hi matts
08:07 matts      hi
08:20 kf         morning #koha
08:20 kf         chris: any chance you are still around? :)
08:20 magnus     hiya kf
08:21 kf         hi magnus
08:53 francharb  hello #koha
08:54 magnus     hello francharb
09:41 wasabi     "Skype goes titsup across globe"
09:41 wasabi     http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/22/skype/
09:42 wasabi     nice headline... ;)
09:44 wasabi     ooooohh....
09:44 wasabi     http://idle.slashdot.org/story/10/12/23/0149242/New-Zealand-Government-Opens-UFO-Files
09:45 wasabi     stuff.co.nz is about to get a slashdot :)
09:48 magnus     hehe
09:48 wasabi     i sure hope their .NET server is fully patched!?!
09:49 wasabi     lol
09:50 magnus     .NET?!?
09:51 wasabi     hur hur
09:54 wasabi     very nice 'page-viewer' .app in UFO story tho… :)
09:55 wasabi     and a apple-osx dock effect too! (on the bottom)
09:59 wasabi     oooh, and a GUI switch for ubuntu too, a big deal...
09:59 wasabi     http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/12/22/unity_ubuntu_the_future/
10:00 wasabi     … that is quite ambitious.. but sounds good? :)
10:01 magnus     um, not sure about that...
10:01 magnus     "Unity also moves application menus out of the window and into the global menu bar, a la OS X"
10:02 magnus     i hate that
10:02 braedon|h  it is fine for full screen apps - so i like it on my netbook
10:03 braedon|h  but on desktop? no thanks
10:03 wasabi     agreed, dont force *that* on me, of all things
10:03 magnus     yup!
10:03 braedon|h  hopefully they will change it so that it only does it when the window is maximised
10:03 braedon|h  or just let you disable it
10:03 wasabi     hell yeah, but hay…. i understand why someone thinks its a good idea :/
10:04 magnus     oh well, there will always be other distros if ubuntu does something stupid ;-)
10:05 wasabi     everyone will just disable it, when the hack becomes a 1-liner ;)
10:05 wasabi     but, the big picture sounds great!
10:06 wasabi     if great = not X11 , lol
10:07 magnus     and taking mobile, tablets etc into account is probably a good strategy
10:25 wasabi     a good read on the topic too...
10:26 wasabi     http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/ubuntu_embraces_unity_and_wayland_or_gnu_linux_exciting_again
10:44 hdl        @mediawiki-- A,y idea how o import smoothly a table (ggl spreadsheet) in mediawiki
10:44 munin      hdl: Error: "mediawiki--" is not a valid command.
10:46 magnus     hdl: i think you can use the html for the table in mediawiki?
10:47 hdl        would be hard for ppl to edit would it not ?
10:48 magnus     yeah, tables are hard to edit anyway, i'm afraid...
11:04 magnus     http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables
11:45 wasabi     hdl: convert ggl table to csv, then import csv to mediawiki :/
11:45 wasabi     … it looks to be the best way forward
12:55 nengard    any git experts around? I have two commits I need to revert on the manual now that code has been pulled out ... tips on how to do that?
12:58 hdl        nengard: git revert commitid
12:58 hdl        git push
12:58 nengard    thanks hdl!
12:58 hdl        and you're set ;)
12:59 hdl        which code are you referring to ?
12:59 nengard    the manual
12:59 ibot       the manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
12:59 nengard    http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commitdiff;h=9db3a9db681308513720e531813ea90701c2138b
12:59 nengard    and
12:59 hdl        which code has been pulledout
12:59 Oak        \o
13:00 nengard    http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commitdiff;h=03f99ef6dde44cf9432aeed35692ff0bc236fbca
13:00 nengard    OH! - sorry - the circ and fine rules changes
13:02 nengard    hi owen and chris_n
13:02 owen       Hi
13:02 ibot       salut, owen
13:02 owen       Safe travels yesterday nengard?
13:02 chris_n    heya nengard
13:02 nengard    yep, only a tini tiny delay
13:02 owen       Are you there or back now?
13:03 nengard    now time to catch up on over 200 commits that aren't in the manual yet (did the bugs last week - or whenever that was)
13:03 nengard    I'm home
13:04 nengard    how do i get a commit id?
13:05 owen       Working from what nengard?
13:05 nengard    git
13:05 nengard    if i'm in the manual repo and i want to revert a commit i need the commit id
13:06 owen       You could use git log to browse the last commits
13:07 nengard    and so in this section:
13:07 nengard    commit 41fcbc4dc15e3f1f0bf0537ed9e4a3988e197314
13:07 nengard    Author: Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com>
13:07 nengard    Date:   Tue Dec 14 11:05:36 2010 -0500
13:07 nengard    the commit line is the ID?
13:07 owen       Yes
13:09 nengard    thanks
13:10 nengard    grrr
13:10 nengard    looks like i might not be able to do this as a revert
13:11 nengard    warning: Cannot merge binary files: en/images/admin/patroncirc/addcircrule.png
13:11 owen       You've got me there nengard
13:12 nengard    yup
13:12 nengard    okay - will just do new screenshots, it's only 2 images
13:15 Oak        \o
13:22 nengard    okay manuals reverted ... i think :)
13:25 owen       Oh, here we go: UI bling! http://www.loadinfo.net/
13:25 * owen     is gonna light up Koha like a Christmas tree!
13:27 jwagner    Yikes!
13:28 * jwagner  distracts owen with a large spiked eggnogg....
13:28 magnus     yay, the animated gifs are back!
13:28 owen       Sorry, no dice. I can't think of anything that goes less well with a good spike than egg.
13:29 magnus     party like it's 1997!
13:29 jwagner    Hmmm.  How about some spiked cookies?
13:31 * owen     would be happily distracted that way
13:41 * jwagner  ships lots of cookies in the general direction of Ohio
13:42 * owen     will stand at the border checking all vehicles
13:42 owen       Better with an animated gif? http://screencast.com/t/Rpoun2HeLO6
13:43 * jwagner  doesn't want owen to freeze; am arranging a parachute drop
13:50 magnus     owen: it doesn't hurt, methinks
14:21 kf         http://www.swr.de/nachrichten/bw/-/id=1622/nid=1622/did=7397422/7pbfho/index.html :(
14:22 jwagner    kf, that's not your building, is it?
14:22 kf         no
14:22 kf         but right in the middle of the old parts of the city / shopping district
14:23 kf         2 people hurt, 4 buldings damaged
14:23 kf         15th century buildings
14:23 jwagner    Not good :-(
14:24 kf         no
14:24 kf         250 firemen and other helpers
14:24 kf         they expect they will have to watch it for 3 more days
14:26 kf         I was there yesterday, several times, while shopping for christmas presents
14:39 jcamins    Good morning, #koha
14:39 jcamins    Scary!
14:41 owen       The quandry of a bug fixer: After my changes, the feature is broken in IE. But before my change, it was broken *differently* in IE. Progress?
14:42 * magnus_a wishes everyone a very merry holiday!
14:52 nengard    another git question, i just commited some changes to the 3.4 manual and realized I need the same things on the 3.2 manual, but I didn't create a patch - is there a way to generate a patch after the fact?
14:54 owen       You can specify a previous commit ID with git format-patch
14:54 nengard    found it! :)
14:55 nengard    gonna get these darn things up to date before the end of today if it kills me
14:55 nengard    I'm way way way too far behind
14:56 nengard    @later tell wizzyrea can you pull the manuals to the koha site when you get a chance - also there needs to be a link to the 3.4 manual since it's diff from the 3.2 one (only a little - but different just the same)
14:56 munin      nengard: The operation succeeded.
14:56 owen       nengard: You're worth more to us alive than dead
14:56 nengard    this is true ....
14:56 nengard    but you know what I meant :)
14:57 kf         hdl: the problem with diacritics is a known issue - I think chris already has the solution, but it's not on the branch yet
14:57 owen       I just wanted to express my appreciation in a bounty-hunter-ish sort of way :)
14:57 kf         hdl: he made me change one line in Template.pm and after that it worked :)
14:57 kf         hdl: there are also some other small issues - but it overall it works really great
14:59 hdl        nengard: git cherry-pick commitid
14:59 Brooke     Tēnā koutou
15:00 hdl        would have done the trick
15:01 hdl        kf: I was not sure it was exactly the same issue.
15:01 hdl        kf: But yes... It reminded me something.
15:02 hdl        kf: do you also have the feeling that Template::Toolkit goes faster ?
15:02 kf         not sure - I am testing on a slow and old laptop
15:02 hdl        kf: I might be distracted by the flashy new tools
15:03 kf         new tools?
15:06 druthb     o/
15:06 * Brooke   smiles at druthb
15:07 jcamins    wizzyrea: Good news for Kansas: balloon rides on untethered balloons are not subject to the state's amusement tax. :D
15:07 jcamins    Good morning, druthb.
15:07 druthb     howdy! :)
15:07 Brooke     excellent, my dirigible shall escape the LAW
15:08 jcamins    Brooke: but only if it's untethered. Tethered balloon rides are subject to Kansas's amusement tax.
15:09 Brooke     I shall store it in a hangar outside Kansas. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it ;P
15:10 Brooke     of course!
15:10 Brooke     we can totally purchase a zeppelin and use that to get to NZ regularly.
15:10 Brooke     this plan cannot possibly fail.
15:10 nengard    jcamins where the heck did you find that bit of news? hehe
15:11 * Brooke   points out that jcamins is a pedlar of the obscure.
15:12 kf         Brooke: we have zeppelins around here..
15:12 Brooke     I know, you're totally holding out on the community :P
15:12 kf         flying over the city and the lake in summer
15:13 drotsk     morning #koha
15:13 Brooke     if only I had pursued a lucrative and sexy career in criminal justice. I'd be able to commandeer a craft.
15:13 Brooke     hey drotsk
15:13 drotsk     ooh zeppelins
15:13 drotsk     o/
15:13 Brooke     but not Led ones
15:13 Brooke     \ooo/
15:14 drotsk     i find it interesting that alternate realities in many tv shows always seem to show the ubiquity of zeppelins
15:14 druthb     Brooke, we're not *that* far from Lakehurst; think we could find one there, and commandeer it?
15:14 Brooke     >.>
15:14 Brooke     <.<
15:14 Brooke     we have no authoritay
15:14 jcamins    nengard: "interesting taxes."
15:14 * druthb   hands Brooke a clipboard.
15:15 druthb     Anyone walking around with a clipboard and looking worried is assumed to be on something important.
15:15 druthb     Fake it til you make it.
15:15 Brooke     meh, I've had much more success going where I'm not meant to be with a greasy bag and or pizza box.
15:15 druthb     oooh, yeah.  That works too.
15:16 owen       Man you should have seen the look on the plain-clothed cop's face when I asked him if he had a permit to carry a handgun into the library
15:17 Brooke     tee hee
15:17 owen       He should have thanked me
15:17 * Brooke   is notorious for hassling the Albany Chief of Police for photo identification and a letter from home.
15:17 jcamins    Heh. Well, at least his disguise was effective, right?
15:17 * druthb   pictures the Mighty Owen facing down a big ol' cop.
15:17 Brooke     I give him much credit for realising why I had to do it.
15:18 Brooke     it's not hard to picture Owen doing that at all.
15:18 drotsk     nope, i can totally see owen doing that
15:19 * drotsk   highfives owen
15:19 druthb     hm.
15:19 druthb     ibot:  drotsk
15:19 ibot       druthb: huh?
15:19 druthb     ibot:  drotsk?
15:19 ibot       druthb: i haven't a clue
15:19 druthb     pity.
15:19 Brooke     ibot: owen?
15:19 ibot       rumour has it owen is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, covered in awesome brilliance
15:19 * Brooke   titters.
15:19 drotsk     and sparkles!
15:20 * druthb   waits for it...
15:21 drotsk     drotsk?
15:21 ibot       you are, like, wizzyrea's hubby, and a ukulele afficianado
15:21 drotsk     there we go
15:21 * Brooke   wonders if ibot is just making shite up.
15:22 drotsk     naw
15:22 sekjal     brb
15:22 druthb     ibot:  Brooke?
15:22 ibot       i think Brooke is certainly gonna go
15:22 druthb     ibot:  forget Brooke
15:22 ibot       druthb: I forgot brooke
15:22 druthb     ibot:  Brook is just plain awesome, okay?
15:22 ibot       no idea, druthb
15:22 druthb     ibot:  Brooke is just plain awesome
15:22 ibot       OK, druthb.
15:23 * druthb   checks her own spelling.
15:23 Brooke     ibot: forget Brooke
15:23 drotsk     \o/
15:23 ibot       Brooke: I forgot brooke
15:23 druthb     harrrumph!
15:25 Brooke     @roulette
15:25 munin      Brooke: *click*
15:26 * druthb   hands pistols to ibot and hudsonbot, just to even the odds.
15:27 nengard    got a question about suggestion emails - are they being sent to anyone who submits a purchase suggestion?
15:27 * Brooke   wonders if she'll end up the target of another firing squad...
15:27 nengard    or is there supposed to be a preference or messaging option for patrons to decide if they get that email?
15:28 Brooke     I think there might be two separate toggles.
15:28 drotsk     this is what I imagine playing while ibot and hudsonbot duke it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tx0Zl9RNuE
15:28 nengard    where might i find those? cause i'm not seeing them
15:30 nengard    this is in reference to the commits of bug 4211, bug 5127 and bug 5126
15:30 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4211 major, P2, ---, chris, NEW, Acquisitions actions on suggestions don't generate email
15:30 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5127 major, P5, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, No sample suggestions notices are installed by default
15:30 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5126 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Suggestions module missing from "add notice" form.
15:31 owen       nengard: I don't know of a setting for that
15:31 nengard    yeah - i'm not seeing one, so i'm assuming the system just sends the emails (now that it's fixed)
15:31 nengard    I don't have emails on on my system to test with
15:37 kf         nengard: I think you can perhaps deactivate it by deleting the notices templates?
15:38 kf         have thought about it too - a system preference would be nice
15:39 nengard    that's an idea
15:40 nengard    kf i'd say it should be part of the enhanced messages - to let the patron decide if they want the emails or not
15:40 kf         nengard: even better :)
15:41 nengard    off to submit a enhancement :)
15:41 kf         but perhaps an on /off for the feature would be good too
15:41 kf         have both
15:41 Brooke     *nod*
15:41 kf         so library can decide if they want to offer the mails
15:41 Brooke     I agree kf.
15:41 kf         and let patron decide if he wants to get them
15:43 nengard    bug 5539 submitted
15:43 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5539 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Options for Suggestion Emails
15:47 kf         :)
15:47 kf         nengard++
15:49 nengard    hmmm .. what's bug 5352 about?
15:49 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5352 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Suggestion messages to patron
15:49 nengard    is that related?
15:54 kf         probably
15:54 nengard    hmmm - thinking I might have to hold off on documenting this until i understand better
15:54 nengard    and know what controls the sending of these emails
15:54 kf         I think at the moment they are always sent out
15:55 kf         if you have the templates - but I have not fully tested it yet
15:55 nengard    hmmm
15:55 kf         missing email on my laptop too
15:55 nengard    k - gonna write it up
15:55 nengard    we can always revert the manual edits if necessary :)
16:02 jcamins    What's the CCL prefix for searching for biblio-level itypes?
16:05 Brooke     bonjour francharb
16:06 francharb  Hey Brooke! how is it going today
16:06 francharb  ?
16:06 Brooke     good enough for gummint woik
16:07 jcamins    itemtype, for the record.
16:07 Brooke     and you?
16:08 francharb  well, too much work but i should not complain, my bosses are overhere! ;)
16:10 francharb  gummint woiik?
16:10 francharb  you working for the government?
16:10 francharb  ahah
16:11 Brooke     nope
16:11 Brooke     it's slang
16:11 francharb  i feel like i never had english classes
16:11 francharb  hehe
16:11 * Brooke   doesn't speak standard English of any flavour.
16:11 francharb  you mean hard work?
16:11 Brooke     so don't feel bad.
16:11 owen       Brooke can have that effect on people francharb
16:11 Brooke     nope, easy work.
16:11 jcamins    francharb: don't worry, I'm a native English speaker, and I can't always figure out what Brooke means. ;)
16:11 francharb  lol
16:12 francharb  thanks
16:12 wizzyrea   it's a slang saying playing off of the fact that government workers often do just enough to get by
16:12 francharb  ok
16:12 wizzyrea   so to say that it's good enough for government work means that it's enough to get by :)
16:12 Brooke     that's why I write documentation, so people can't figure what I mean or what Koha does ;)
16:12 francharb  LOL
16:20 nengard    oh bugger - just found another section of the manual that I never wrote!!!
16:20 Brooke     d'oh
16:20 francharb  thats a bummerf
16:20 Brooke     it's all those damn new features. ;)
16:20 nengard    who is running Koha 3.2.2? I really need to get another VM set up with 3.2 so that I have HEAD and 3.2 in two places
16:20 nengard    no time to do that though
16:21 * Brooke   has often wondered why there is no developer sandbox.
16:21 * owen     supposes he ought to ditch his 3.0.x setup and do a 3.2.x one...
16:21 Brooke     everyone's running their own independent installations and it's kinda weird.
16:22 nengard    if there were a dev sandbox then we'd be stepping on each other's toes while we worked
16:22 Brooke     obviously we have to run the right one for our Libraries
16:22 nengard    we need our own systems to play on and then all submit to one place
16:22 Brooke     if you're changing stuff
16:23 Brooke     if you're figuring stuff out, is that really still necessary?
16:23 hdl        nengard: yes... but having a common reference or a common site to play with... could be helpfull sometimes.
16:23 owen       jwagner around?
16:24 jcamins    It'd be like patch hockey- jcamins changes C4/Biblio.pm, but wait, nengard swoops in, grabbing C4/Biblio.pm she shoots, she... is stopped by pianohack's modification of C4/Reserves.pm!
16:24 Brooke     you're both assuming no one is talking to one another
16:25 hdl        jcamins: which one ?
16:25 owen       There's no reason for multiple people to be developing at the same time on the same system
16:25 jcamins    hdl: you should probably ignore me- I only have three more days here, and I'm *really* feeling it.
16:25 owen       Testing maybe, but even then you've got system preferences being switched
16:26 owen       @later tell jwagner I have a question about Bug 3479 when you get a moment
16:26 munin      owen: The operation succeeded.
16:27 nengard    jcamins i like that image :)
16:29 kf         ok, time to start holidays :)
16:29 jcamins    Lucky you!
16:29 kf         bye all!
16:29 jcamins    nengard: yes, it has a certain charm to it.
16:29 owen       jcamins: Three more days in your job?
16:29 jcamins    Well, three and a half, since it's only 11:30.
16:30 nengard    :)
16:30 jcamins    This afternoon, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
16:30 owen       Then what?
16:30 ibot       Then is equal to
16:31 * druthb   shoots a rubber-band at ibot
16:32 jcamins    This is equal to?
16:32 jcamins    *Then is equal to?
16:32 jcamins    What?
16:33 jcamins    I can't even imagine a context when that statement would make sense.
16:33 jcamins    Anyway, starting in January I'll be able to focus more of my time on Koha. :)
16:34 jcamins    Ah-ha!
16:34 Brooke     ibot: then is equal to later.
16:34 ibot       ...but then is equal to...
16:34 Brooke     ibot: forget then
16:34 ibot       Brooke: I forgot then
16:34 jcamins    Chris was giving instructions on how to search bugzilla.
16:35 Brooke     ibot: then is equal to later.
16:35 ibot       OK, Brooke.
16:43 owen       ibot: There is no spoon.
16:43 ibot       ...but there is some latency in the transfer of translation-manager...
16:43 owen       ibot: Forget there
16:43 ibot       owen: I forgot there
16:43 owen       ibot: There is no spoon.
16:43 ibot       OK, owen.
16:43 Brooke     ibot: spoon?
16:43 ibot       brooke: i don't know
16:43 Brooke     ibot: there?
16:43 ibot       it has been said that there is no spoon.
16:43 nengard    heh
16:45 jcamins    spoon?
16:45 ibot       There is no spoon.
16:47 Brooke     0/
16:47 |Lupin|    Hello, everybody
16:47 owen       Hi |Lupin|
16:47 |Lupin|    hey owen ! :)
16:49 |Lupin|    When I worked with Koha I once saw an excellent document explaining how to ensure that mysql is configured correctly, especially regarding character encodings
16:49 |Lupin|    I'd need this documen but can't find it again
16:49 owen       Yeah, it was part of the old wiki
16:49 |Lupin|    can anybody remember such a thing, please ?
16:50 owen       Do we still have that backup of the old wiki?
16:50 |Lupin|    owen: yes ! It was one of the places I thought it could be.
16:50 |Lupin|    I do hope... :-)
16:50 jcamins    I think it's on the new wiki now.
16:50 jcamins    Let me see if I can find it.
16:50 |Lupin|    it'd be worth having it in the new one, too, wouldn't it ?
16:50 jcamins    http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Encoding_and_Character_Sets_in_Koha
16:50 owen       |Lupin|: We lost some content from the old wiki because the authors wouldn't consent to releasing their work under GPL
16:51 |Lupin|    jcamins: oh, wonderful ! thanks !!!
16:52 |Lupin|    owen: hmm ? wasn't the old wiki in GPL already ?
16:52 owen       The content was not explicitly said to be so
16:52 druthb     hi, |Lupin|!
16:53 cait       hi all :)
16:53 |Lupin|    hello druthb :-)
16:54 |Lupin|    hey, cait :-)
16:54 |Lupin|    owen: ah, I see...
16:54 cait       hi |Lupin| :)
16:54 |Lupin|    tendency to take it for granted that everything is under GPL / creative commons as soon as one is in the free software field
16:55 owen       Some disagree, unfortunately.
16:56 |Lupin|    yes... too bad...
17:02 jwagner    owen, sorry, I've been on the phone for a while -- you wanted me?
17:02 owen       jwagner: Sorry for the Bugzilla bomb, I did some reassigning.
17:03 owen       Bug 3479
17:03 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3479 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Prompt to save patron edits
17:03 jwagner    yes, I noticed the bomb :-)
17:03 owen       jwagner: This feature asks you if you're sure you want to save the patron record?
17:04 jwagner    yes
17:04 owen       Wouldn't it make more sense to prompt the user if they *don't* try to save the record?
17:05 cait       like: you have unsave changes, do oyu want to save them now?
17:05 jwagner    You mean if they try to navigate away from the page without saving? Yes, possibly.
17:05 jwagner    But the client asked us for a "are you sure" check on saving, so that's what we wrote :-)
17:06 owen       I just don't see what their motivation was.
17:06 jwagner    They were trying to make Koha work a lot like Horizon in several areas, this may have been one of them.
17:10 owen       My inclination is to mark that as "won't fix" because it doesn't seem widely useful
17:15 jwagner    owen, I've actually found it useful myself a few times, when I edited a field I didn't mean to -- clicking cancel leaves me in the patron record so I don't lose other changes but can fix the problem one
17:27 nengard    owen for bug 1883 you say that we need to create some default values, what does the category have to be for this pull down to show?
17:27 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1883 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Managing Suggestions - authorised list of reasons why patron requesting book
17:28 |Lupin|    hey nengard :)
17:29 nengard    Hi Lupin
17:29 owen       nengard: "OPAC_SUG"
17:29 nengard    oh you know i think i knew that
17:29 nengard    now that you say that :)
17:29 nengard    am i right that this hasn't been pushed to head yet?
17:31 owen       I think just to a QA branch
17:32 nengard    k - that's what i thought
17:32 nengard    am down to 110 commit emails to read (from 300)
17:34 |Lupin|    just out of curiosity, a question for the developers here
17:35 |Lupin|    hasanybody already seen apache2 segfault on somerequest ?
17:35 |Lupin|    and if yes, what have the causes been ?
17:36 |Lupin|    I am asking because this happens tome in aproject which is not related to Koha. I have been suggested that it may come from an encoding problem
17:36 |Lupin|    and I'm wondering whether this looks like a reasonable hypothesis to you guys
17:50 * jcamins  wishes he were left-handed like everyone else in his family.
17:51 hdl        hi |Lupin| happy new year...
17:51 |Lupin|    hey hdl, thanks!
17:52 |Lupin|    hdl: happy new year to you too, and to your relatives
17:52 |Lupin|    have to go now but may be able to come backin the coming days
17:52 |Lupin|    bye all
17:53 owen       wizzyrea around?
18:07 owen       Hi sekjal
18:07 sekjal     hi owen
18:18 francharb  dinner time!!
18:18 francharb  bye all
18:21 nengard    welcome back sekjal
18:21 nengard    so - nothing like last minute - my last 2 presents arrived today (to be handed out tomorrow)
18:23 sekjal     thank, nengard.  and I've still got a present to wrap sometime tonight....
18:23 nengard    oh i didn't say it was all wrapped :)
18:23 nengard    just that ups just dropped off the last 2
18:33 briceSanc  hello everybody
18:34 cait       hi sekjal and briceSanc
18:34 sekjal     hi cait!
18:36 briceSanc  We regularly have problems with "memcached" Is it necessary to reboot regularly?
18:37 cait       briceSanc: we don't use it at the moment
18:38 cait       but I had some problems with it (acq framework was not showing up)
18:38 briceSanc  How to disable it?
18:38 cait       not sure
18:38 ibot       not sure are you using git?
18:39 cait       or better don't know
18:39 cait       I have not activated it during install
18:39 briceSanc  because every time we restart memcached, the page reappears correctly.
18:39 briceSanc  ok
18:39 briceSanc  yes i'm using git in head/3.2.x
18:40 cait       you should file a bug
18:40 cait       so it can get fixed or added to documentation
18:41 nengard    @later tell wizzyrea okay i'm done with manual updates for today (i think)
18:41 munin      nengard: The operation succeeded.
18:42 wizzyrea   owen: i'm here now
18:42 nengard    you mean nicole :)
18:42 nengard    and good!
18:42 nengard    oh you were answering owen from before :)
18:42 nengard    hehe
18:43 wizzyrea   hehe yea
18:43 owen       wizzyrea: I've been looking at some of the Harley-related bug reports
18:43 wizzyrea   aha
18:44 owen       wizzyrea: I wondered if 4241 is worth looking into
18:44 owen       Bug 4241
18:44 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4241 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Add lost/claims returned displays to patron record
18:45 chris      Most of them need a bit of a rewrite
18:46 chris      If you're up for that :)
18:46 wizzyrea   that is actually helpful
18:46 owen       chris: I hesitate to do work that others should be doing, but if there are useful things there I'll hold my nose
18:46 chris      That one looks useful
18:47 wizzyrea   ok. Now, for real work.
18:47 * wizzyrea goes to look at the "needs testing" bugs
18:48 briceSanc  thks cait, we're trying to stop memcached in koha
18:49 chris      Just take out the memcached lines in koha-conf.xml
18:49 cait       morning chris
18:49 chris      That will stop koha using it
18:49 briceSanc  chris, cool :)
18:49 chris      Morning cait
18:49 * owen     is having a hard time understanding the github interface re: what changes have been made
18:50 chris      Owen luckily for you
18:50 chris      There is a ptfs-wip repo
18:50 chris      On git.kohacommunity.org
18:51 chris      So you can use the more familair gitweb to look
18:51 chris      Last day of work for 2010 for me today
18:52 briceSanc  chris, me too :)
18:52 owen       Oh, thanks chris. I looked for that but didn't find it
18:59 cait       chris: it iwll be over fast
18:59 chris      Yep
19:00 chris      Beer o'clock starts early today
19:00 chris      I'm already drunk ....
19:00 chris      Well not really, its 8am :)
19:00 owen       Quick, ask chris to approve all your half-assed patches!
19:02 chris      Heh
19:02 chris      My stop, bbiab
19:11 chris      back
19:12 owen       Wow, Accounts.pm has a lot of FIXMEs
19:12 cait       I am not surprised
19:13 cait       accounts / fines have some serious translation problems too
19:13 cait       but I haven't found a way to solve it
19:13 cait       those things get saved to the database :(
19:13 chris      yeah, its due a rewrite
19:18 nengard    sekjal is always saying that accounts needs a rewrite
19:19 cait       and he is right
19:19 cait       :)
19:20 chris      i suspect it will have to wait for 3.6
19:20 wizzyrea   which isn't all that far away anyhow
19:23 cait       no
19:23 cait       time is a scary thing
19:23 cait       moving very fast
19:27 jwagner    Sorry, I've been away from my desk for a while -- was someone asking for me?
19:37 chris      those are some cool features id love to work on
19:37 owen       ?
19:37 chris      OPAC Enhancement email to the koha-devel list
19:38 owen       Are you going to have it wrapped up in time for Christmas? :)
19:38 chris      im not gonna have anytime to do it... but those are perfect projects for a compsci student
19:38 * chris    looks at pianohack
19:38 chris      :)
19:39 chris      im not sure the academy kids will be up to it
19:39 cait       :)
19:39 chris      chris who is doing the template work could .. but he is busy :)
19:50 richard    hi al
19:50 richard    all even
19:50 richard    i don't think al is here
19:54 chris      :)
20:00 owen       wizzyrea: Do you have patron images enabled?
20:01 wizzyrea   I don't :/
20:01 * owen     sees a layout problem on moremember.pl with patron images enabled, just wondered if it was just me
20:02 chris      i do, but i dont have many photos in there
20:02 wizzyrea   I will check it!
20:02 owen       chris: But wizzyrea is using Harley
20:03 chris      oh right
20:03 wizzyrea   ohhh you meant on harley
20:03 * wizzyrea was confused
20:03 chris      i rode on one of those once
20:03 owen       Yeah, sorry, I'm testing the changes in Bug 4241
20:03 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4241 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Add lost/claims returned displays to patron record
20:03 chris      ah right
20:03 wizzyrea   it's a machine precision engineered to turn fuel into noise
20:04 owen       ibot: A Harley is a machine precision-engineered to turn fuel into noise
20:04 ibot       OK, owen.
20:04 chris      my dad used to ride a triumph
20:04 chris      thunderbird
20:05 chris      when he was in high school
20:05 chris      15 year old on a 650cc bike .. yeah thats a good idea :)
20:05 wizzyrea   oi vey
20:05 wizzyrea   harley?
20:05 ibot       i think harley is a machine precision-engineered to turn fuel into noise
20:06 wizzyrea   <3
20:06 chris      he used to ditch school and ride over the port hills
20:06 chris      in christchurch
20:06 chris      to get fish and chips
20:06 wizzyrea   you mean shark and potatoes?
20:06 chris      yup
20:06 wizzyrea   ^.^
20:06 chris      cept we dont use shark anymore
20:06 chris      but it would have been back then
20:06 wizzyrea   now see, someone told me you did
20:06 briceSanc  happy holidays !
20:06 drotsk     ah, the much vaunted engineering to convert gasoline into noise, without the side effect of horsepower
20:07 wizzyrea   but they may have been making fun of the dumb american
20:07 briceSanc  and merry christmas !
20:07 chris      they stopped about 15 years ago
20:07 briceSanc  bye !
20:07 chris      thanks briceSanc
20:07 chris      bye
20:07 chris      wizzyrea: too much mercury in shark
20:07 wizzyrea   that's true I suppose: top end of the food chain and all that
20:07 chris      Triumph obtained further publicity with Marlon Brando's 1953 motion picture, The Wild One, in which he rode a 1950 6T Thunderbird.
20:07 chris      now picture my dad as marlon brando
20:07 chris      hehe
20:08 wizzyrea   O.O
20:08 chris      he only had one crash
20:09 wizzyrea   well technically, one is all you need :P
20:09 chris      when he was fanging along and hit a bee
20:09 chris      no full face helmets back then
20:10 chris      so he took up gliding instead
20:10 chris      consequently ive never had problem getting permission to do crazy things :-)
20:10 drotsk     i can see it, i've met the man. :P
20:11 wizzyrea   hahaha
20:12 chris      http://kupu.maori.nz/
20:12 chris      get a new maori word a day
20:14 drotsk     hākari Kirīhimete indeed
20:20 * owen     realizes this must be what git cherry-pick is for...
20:24 chris      *nod*
20:24 chris      well be far less pain than trying to rebase
20:25 owen       Every time I think I can get away with not knowing something about git...
20:25 chris      :)
20:26 owen       Can you pass a series of commits to git cherry-pick? Will it do them in order?
20:26 chris      hmm, im not sure about that, have never tried doing that
20:27 chris      i usually just ahve 2 windows open one with git log and the other one i cherry-pick into
20:27 chris      http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1994463/how-to-cherry-pick-a-range-of-commits-and-merge-into-another-branch
20:27 chris      doesnt seem like you can
20:28 chris      but rebase --onto might be the way to do it
20:28 chris      i do like stackoverflow
20:36 gmcharlt   owen: yes, you can cherry-pick multiple commits in one fell swoop
20:36 gmcharlt   git cherry-pick commit1 commit2 etc
20:36 owen       gmcharlt: And it will apply them in sequence?
20:37 gmcharlt   yes
20:39 owen       Hm, git didn't like that
20:39 owen       It lectured me on cherry-pick options
20:43 gmcharlt   what version are you using?
20:44 owen       1.7.1
20:46 gmcharlt   hmm, looks like you have to go to 1.7.2 for cherry-pick to stop lecturing you
20:46 gmcharlt   ah, from the release notes
20:46 gmcharlt   * 'git cherry-picks' stops lecturing Owen Leonard and can now pick a range of commits
20:46 chris      heh
20:48 cait       lol
20:50 chris      gmcharlt shouldnt write release notes and I shouldnt write bug status updates :-)
20:50 * gmcharlt especially shouldn't write release notes for projects he doesn't send patches to ;)
20:50 chris      :-)
20:51 gmcharlt   owen: but seriously, it does look like 1.7.2 is the first version that can handle ranges of commits when cherry-picking
20:52 chris      i had to use 1.4.1 the other day
20:52 chris      no stash :(
20:52 * gmcharlt winces
20:56 cait       chris: I like your updates :)
20:57 cait       merry christmas! :)
20:58 cait       too early?
20:58 * cait     goes back to packing
20:58 chris      hehe
21:37 Brooke     kia ora
21:40 * Brooke   waves at sekjal
21:40 cait       kia ora
21:40 * sekjal   waves back
21:40 Brooke     :)
21:41 chris      hei Brooke and sekjal
21:41 Brooke     he?
21:41 ibot       he is picky
21:42 sekjal     hey chris!
21:42 Brooke     hei toki?
21:42 Brooke     ;)
21:42 chris      http://kupu.maori.nz/ for you Brooke
21:43 * Brooke   does a little jig.
21:49 Brooke     ibot druthb?
21:49 ibot       i heard druthb was a geek.
21:50 chris      brooke?
21:51 chris      brooke?
21:51 ibot       well, brooke is the author of the wonderful newbie guide, help her finish version 2
21:51 Brooke     oh screw that
21:51 chris      take that as payback for the cockatoo hat
21:51 Brooke     ibot forget Brooke
21:51 ibot       Brooke: I forgot brooke
21:52 chris      ill do worse whne you arent around now
21:52 Brooke     that is a fetching picture.
21:52 chris      :)
21:52 wizzyrea   omg i lol'd so much
21:52 wizzyrea   at the cockatoo hat
21:52 * wizzyrea was there, and the picture was funnier
21:52 Brooke     plus it manages to show off your son.
21:53 Brooke     the only better thing would be if Laurel were in there somehow with the alternate boy.
21:53 * Brooke   will get around to doing all sorts of Who's Who pages a bit at a time.
21:54 Brooke     wanted to get the release managers nailed down first
21:54 Brooke     even though everything is quite scant
21:54 Brooke     surprisingly we are missing a template for the infobox for people.
21:54 chris      i saw you started one
21:55 chris      and killed it
21:55 chris      you seen the whoswho page?
21:55 Brooke     me goes to take a gander.
21:55 chris      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
21:55 Brooke     outstanding
21:55 * Brooke   was planning to drill down the list after release teams
21:56 chris      needs updating
21:56 Brooke     and also folks like Rosalie and Jo.
21:56 chris      particularly for ruth
21:57 Brooke     well that's a blocker, so that's done.
21:57 chris      danke
21:58 Brooke     bitte
22:01 cait       ?
22:02 cait       hearing you 2 talk German makes me fear the worst
22:03 chris      koha ueber alles
22:03 cait       lol
22:04 * chris    learnt about that poem at school
22:04 * cait     ponders starting a German course on #koha
22:04 chris      :)
22:04 cait       Fröhliche Weihnachten!
22:04 cait       which poen?
22:04 cait       poem
22:05 chris      hmm ill have to wikipedia i cant spell it right
22:06 chris      Das Lied der Deutschen
22:06 chris      it was when we were studying propoganda, and how the allies used propoganda in world war 2
22:06 * Brooke   did nothing but heckle her poor German professor.
22:07 cait       http://www.schwaebische.de/leben/vermischtes/fotoreportagen_galid,10517.html
22:07 cait       :(
22:07 cait       the house broke down
22:07 chris      in english class no less
22:08 cait       chris: don't know it
22:08 chris      its the lyrics to the national anthem :)
22:08 Brooke     oh wow.
22:08 chris      oh noes ;(
22:08 chris      did that just happen cait ?
22:08 cait       today :(
22:09 chris      what horrible timing
22:09 cait       my mother lived in the small house next to the broken down house
22:09 cait       and she worked in the shoe shop... in the big house
22:09 * Brooke   hugs cait.
22:09 cait       it's in the middle of the old city - lots of shops. I was there yesterday
22:09 cait       long before I existed
22:09 cait       but my mother told me everytime she visited me here
22:10 chris      such a shame, hopefully no one was hurt?
22:10 cait       chris: ok, I know the song - but only the third part
22:10 cait       3 people slightly hurt
22:11 cait       and older couple living in the house I think
22:11 cait       they had to get the woman through the window
22:11 cait       and one fireman hit by something
22:12 chris      hi druthb
22:12 druthb     Hi, chris! :)
22:12 cait       hi druthb
22:12 * druthb   waves to cait
22:12 cait       picture 52 is hard
22:12 cait       druthb: the house broke down :(
22:12 cait       waebische.de/leben/vermischtes/fotoreportagen_galid,10517.html
22:13 wizzyrea   cait :(
22:13 wizzyrea   is that near where you live?
22:14 wizzyrea   (obviously in the same city)
22:14 cait       yeah, the same city, right in the centre
22:14 cait       I live a bit out of town
22:15 cait       but I have been there yesterday
22:15 cait       when I was shopping for christmas presents, it's near a central place and the main station, shopping mile
22:18 * druthb   is muddling around with the Empathy IM client in Ubuntu.
22:19 cait       druthb: I gave up on empathy, back on pidgin
22:19 * Brooke   uses adium
22:19 Brooke     but it could secretly be naughty.
22:20 druthb     The conceptual model of a multi-protocol IM client is basically sound, but my brain just has trouble with it for some reason.  I used Adium when I had a Mac.  Since I could not see that anyone's here until they spoke, imma thinking that Empathy gets a --
22:21 * druthb   waves to Brooke, now that she knows she's not waving at thin air.
22:21 * Brooke   only wishes she were thin air in the stead of hot air.
22:21 * druthb   giggles
22:26 chris      ok off to physio
22:26 chris      bbiab
22:26 Brooke     see ya
22:27 Brooke     0/ drotsk
22:27 * druthb   waves to drotsk
22:27 drotsk     hiya
22:27 wizzyrea   l8r chris
22:27 druthb     All right...off to reboot, to install updates.  back dreckly, probably from pidgin.  Empathy sucks rocks.
22:41 wizzyrea   can we keep chris_n as release maintainer forever :P
22:42 cait       can we keep chris too?
22:42 Brooke     is he susceptible to bribery?
22:42 Brooke     >.>
22:42 Brooke     <.<
22:42 wizzyrea   (i love his release notes)
22:43 cait       :)
22:45 Brooke     o/
22:45 druthb     o/
22:45 cait       wb
22:45 druthb     oh, that's *so* much better!
22:45 cait       hehe
22:50 cait       I didn't like the way empathy displays the messages
22:50 cait       there is no way to put the date/time at the beginnign of the line
22:51 druthb     I also couldn't see a user list, and couldn't click a name to fling open a private window.  Very annoying!
22:52 cait       but now you are back
22:58 druthb     yes!
23:01 chris      back
23:02 Brooke     welcome back
23:02 Brooke     haere mae?
23:03 chris      mai
23:03 Brooke     ah
23:03 Brooke     my Latin bad.
23:05 chris      :)
23:12 cait       and now she is gone again
23:13 Brooke     such is life.
23:13 * Brooke   suspects minion issues and general family time might be the cause of the bug.
23:18 * Brooke   waves
23:18 * cait     waves
23:18 * druthb   reaches for the Velcro
23:18 * druthb   attempted to add a Skype account in Pidgin, but Skype was not installed.  Pidgin did not like that very much.
23:19 Brooke     sounds like summat needs to fail gracefully.
23:19 sekjal     a lovely weekend to you all!
23:19 chris      cya sekjal
23:19 sekjal     cheers, chris!
23:19 Brooke     cheers
23:24 druthb     ok...skype is in, and running fine.. now...let's try this again.
23:26 druthb     whew.  I seem to still be here.
23:26 * Brooke   pokes ruth.
23:26 Brooke     a yep.
23:26 * druthb   pokes Brooke back.
23:31 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for bug 5451, can add tags with userlogin turned off <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=86458028b91d28ccf6944d41ad14fb89db512677>
23:42 druthb     All right...the Velcro isn't work.  Duct tape it is.
23:43 hudsonbot  Starting build 245 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)
23:48 jcamins_a  sekjal++ # for upgrading the ANS's catalog on Christmas Eve eve
23:49 Brooke     not yet it's not. To a kiwi, yes.
23:49 jcamins_a  Brooke: I'm pretty sure Christmas Eve is tomorrow.
23:49 jcamins_a  I thought...
23:50 druthb     yep.  This is Christmas Eve Eve.  :)
23:50 * Brooke   thought you lost a day.
23:50 jcamins_a  Heavens forfend!
23:56 jcamins    Does anyone know what IRC client chris uses on his phone? I was just asked for a recommendation for a mobile IRC client.
23:56 chris      andchat
23:56 jcamins    Thanks.
23:56 Brooke     The Chris is ever vigilant.
23:57 jcamins    All hail Chris the ever-vigilant!
23:58 druthb     :)
23:58 hudsonbot  Starting build 246 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)