Time Nick Message 00:13 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to 3.02.02.00 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eac7c17e9fc7c444b8fdfa8637f4a5e4047e3e82> 00:14 hudsonbot Starting build 64 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #54 15 days ago) 00:21 chris_n 3.2.2 is out... come and get some :-) 00:21 chris_n http://download.koha-community.org/ 00:22 chris_n 3.2.2? 00:22 ibot 3.2.2 is out... come and get some :-) 00:32 chris_n http://koha-community.org/koha-3-2-2/ 00:33 richard chris_n ++ 00:34 chris_n scheduled release date for 2.2.3 is 2010-01-22, fwiw 00:34 chris_n heh 00:34 chris_n 3.2.3 even 00:36 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #64: STILL UNSTABLE in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/64/ 00:36 hudsonbot Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.02.00 00:57 chris :) 02:05 chris http://www.hindu.com/2010/12/22/stories/2010122258750100.htm 02:08 eter hey chris i would like some ldap specific answers i was advised to send to the mailing list for joe but i'm not sure which mailing list, i assume there exist list for different applications 02:08 chris no 02:08 eter ok 02:08 chris koha-devel is probably the best list 02:09 chris http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 02:09 chris !hudson build koha_master now 02:09 hudsonbot chris: job koha_master build scheduled now 02:09 hudsonbot Starting build 244 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 15 days ago) 02:17 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5531: adding some missing sysprefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2124887428afc6c9198404241a1afd93c456dc8f> / Bug 5531: Updated Polish, Ukranian and Russian syspref files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0482e534519dafb2ff37177f117534d77bc4cbeb> / Bug 5531: further fix for fr-FR files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9db18b 02:25 chris wb druthb 02:25 druthb thanks, chris. :) 02:28 * druthb waves to the pianohacker 02:33 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed! 02:33 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #244: FIXED in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/244/ 02:33 pianohack Hey druthb 02:33 hudsonbot * Henri-Damien LAURENT: Based on Chris Nighswonger french unimarc_standard_sysprefs.sql 02:33 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5531: further fix for fr-FR files 02:33 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5531: Updated Polish, Ukranian and Russian syspref files 02:33 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5531: adding some missing sysprefs 02:33 chris yay!!! 02:33 druthb :) 02:34 chris took a while but now hudson will whine at me less 02:34 chris and now my brain is fried, so time to run some useless statistics on 3.2.2 02:58 chris http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2010/12/22/koha-3-2-2-statistics/ 03:04 druthb neat stuff, chris! 03:07 * druthb is off to bed. g'night! 03:56 chris hi bigbrovar what links are you talking about? 03:57 bigbrovar I meant the link to the latest release of koha the one here http://koha-community.org/koha-3-2-2/ seems to point to the previous stable release 3.2.1 03:58 chris ah, i see 03:58 bigbrovar chris: when I tried downloaded it offered to relace the previous 3.2.1 file I downloaded the last time so when I checked the source of the link I found it liked to 3.2.1 03:58 chris will fix that 03:58 bigbrovar probably a typo in the naming or link 03:59 Oak \o 03:59 chris yeah 04:00 chris hows that now? 04:00 bigbrovar let me check again 04:02 bigbrovar chris: seems to be ok now thanks 04:02 chris thanks for the report 06:05 cait good morning #koha 06:14 cait chris_n: around? 06:17 cait chris_n++ 06:32 cait hi Amit 06:33 Amit heya cait 07:22 prawesh hi 07:22 prawesh can anyone help me in importing from winisis ... 07:23 prawesh full description would be very nice 07:23 prawesh also, how can i count total number of records?? 07:36 magnus kia ora, #koha! 07:41 magnus 3.2.2 - woohoo! 07:53 francharb hello #koha 07:59 magnus hi francharb 08:02 cait hi magnus 08:02 magnus guten morgen cait! 08:03 cait :) 08:03 magnus ;-) 08:07 hdl congrats chris_n 08:10 magnus yeah! 08:11 magnus chris_n++ 08:11 magnus and hi hdl ;-) 08:16 magnus hiya davi 08:18 davi hi magnus 11:05 * Oak likes Liferea http://liferea.sourceforge.net/ 11:15 * magnus waves at druthb 11:15 druthb :) Hi, magnus! 12:04 thd hdl: I have added your excellent improvement to the Solr RFC ICU qualification about Zebra to the Zebra disadvantages. Now it is under both the advantages as a qualification and disadvantages as a disadvantage. 12:04 hdl hi thd. 12:04 hdl thanks 12:05 thd hdl: If you have a moment, I would appreciate knowing what "homemade" is applied to Zebra usage of libicu or libicu itself. 12:06 hdl thd: it is applied to zebra usage of libicu. 12:06 hdl libicu itself is widely used. 12:06 hdl but its support in yaz is limited to frequent things. 12:07 hdl I can't remember if I said that position and completeness would not be supported with icu enabled... 12:07 thd hdl: Are you not also stating that icu4j is more widely used and tested than libicu in the world in general? 12:07 hdl But it is the fact. 12:08 thd hdl: Yes I tested position and completeness and reported the error messages returned. 12:08 hdl thd: if you understood that... Then it is a big misunderstanding. 12:08 hdl No I would not claim that. 12:08 hdl icu4j is afaik a wrapper for java of libicu. 12:09 thd hdl: :) 12:09 thd hdl: I misunstood greatly that part. 12:09 hdl So if icu4j is used... Then libicu is too ;) 12:10 hdl I have read rpn2solr.c and it looks supporting only basic RPN queries. 12:10 hdl rpn2solr (published by Indexdata) 12:11 thd hdl: Yes I report that as a deficiency or disadvantage. 12:12 thd hdl: That disadvantage also would make metasearching with Pazpar2 weak. 12:13 thd hdl: Pazpar2 uses CCL as the base query language which is a big limitation in itself. 12:13 hdl ccl is not normalized. And would be quite messy to setup. 12:48 kf hi #koha 12:48 druthb hi, kf! :) 12:48 kf hi druthb :) 12:50 owen Congratulations to chris_n on the release of 3.2.2! 12:50 owen chris_n++ 12:51 kf yep, chris_n++ 13:06 tcohen ++chris_n++ 13:12 jcamins chris_n++ 13:35 owen Got patron search autocomplete working with jQueryUI: http://screencast.com/t/LsxNxqZCbuN 13:36 thd hooray owen 13:41 kf owen++ 13:41 kf someone with a dev install around? 13:44 * jcamins has one, why? 13:46 kf ah, perhaps strange question 13:46 kf how do you update? 13:46 kf I wonder about the files in koha-dev 13:47 jcamins Generally I don't, but you can use Makefile.PL --prev-install=/path/to/install/log 13:47 jcamins (or whatever that argument is) 13:47 kf so you do a git pull and run the makefile? 13:47 jcamins Right. 13:48 jcamins Then make, make install 13:48 kf I wonder if there is a way to find out easily if running makefile makes sense 13:48 magnus_a isn't it "make upgrade"? 13:48 jcamins Hm. 13:48 jcamins magnus_a: yes. 13:48 jcamins Sorry. 13:49 * jcamins hasn't had any caffeine yet today 13:49 * jcamins is just about to make breakfast, actually. 13:49 magnus kf: do you mean find out if you need to run makefile + make, because files that affect koha-dev were changed? 13:49 kf right 13:49 magnus good question 13:50 kf because we have some customizations in there 13:50 magnus i guess you'd have to check what files have been changed... 13:50 magnus yeah, better be careful about those customizations... 13:52 kf someone suggested having symlinks from koha-dev 13:52 kf so you change the files in the git controlled folder, commit them and can merge when you update 13:53 Brooke kia ora 13:53 kf hi Brooke 13:53 magnus kia ora Brooke! 13:53 Brooke :) 13:54 magnus kf: hm, that was a bit too advanced for me at the moment... :-) 13:56 jcamins kf: that's what I do. 13:57 francharb 0/ Brooke 13:57 francharb ;) 13:57 Brooke :) 13:58 Brooke francharb, is "highfive" in your vocabulary yet? 13:58 francharb obviously 13:58 * Brooke highfives francharb 13:59 francharb actually, we do use "highfive" in french but it souds like i 5 13:59 francharb ;) 13:59 * francharb highfives Brooke 13:59 * Brooke giggles. 14:18 druthb Brooke++ # Brooke giggling is a wonderful sight! 14:18 * Brooke rolls her eyes. 14:19 kf jcamins, magnus: thx for your input :) 14:19 magnus kf: np 14:19 kf and druthb the anonymous someone ;) 14:19 druthb :P 14:46 Oak \o 14:46 * thd sleeps 14:47 druthb o/ 14:48 * owen wishes he was as awake now as he was at 3AM 14:52 * owen must have nodded off there for a moment 14:53 * druthb hands owen a strong cup of tea. 15:03 * owen attempts to tackle gmcharlt's overdue.pl autocomplete on patron attributes 15:04 kf overdue.pl autocomplete? 15:05 owen If you have defined custom patron attributes, you can filter on those attributes in circ/overdue.pl 15:05 owen An autocomplete pulls the possible values for those attributes 15:12 kf ah :) 15:24 owen gmcharlt around? 15:49 * owen figures it out 15:50 * owen pictures gmcharlt's super hearing picking up his plea from a faraway planet. He flies across the galaxy to answer the call, only to find the crisis averted. 15:51 * druthb wonders if owen thinks that gmcharlt is a superhero, or an alien. ;-) 15:52 owen An alien superhero of course. Just like Superman. 15:52 druthb bingo! (since I didn't use xor.) 15:52 kf no mailing list mails today? 16:16 gmcharlt good morning 16:17 * gmcharlt makes note to avoid packages containing kryptonite ;-P 16:18 owen gmcharlt: You need your own origin story and your own version of kryptonite 16:19 gmcharlt owen: indeed. so what's up with overdue.pl? 16:19 owen I'm in the process of updating the autocomplete to use jQueryUI 16:19 gmcharlt cool 16:19 gmcharlt are you going to be doing this for all autocompletes? 16:20 owen I've already got the patron search autocomplete working 16:20 owen I don't know of any other instances 16:20 owen I was initially confused about how you were passing attrcode to ypattrodue-attr-search-authvalue.pl, but now I get it 16:21 gmcharlt I checked, looks like those are the only two 16:43 * owen looks around for a wall to bang his head against 16:59 owen A few knocks seems to have helped. 17:02 tcohen hi, the importa table stores z3950 retreived records, is it safe to clean it up? 17:03 tcohen i meant import_records, too sensitive touchpad 17:08 gmcharlt tcohen: yes. it also stores batches of import records, so if you have batches that you want to revert in the future, clearing the table would make that impossible 17:08 gmcharlt that may not be a problem for you, of course 17:09 tcohen gmcharlt: exactly, thanks! 17:09 tcohen I didn't find in the wiki a section for "maintenance tasks" 17:09 tcohen it could be helpful for many 17:10 gmcharlt tcohen: indeed; open an enhancement bug 17:13 tcohen gmcharlt: ok, done 17:14 tcohen i've recently written on the wiki a procedure for installing multiple koha instances 17:14 tcohen i hope some1 corrects it :-D 17:25 kf bye all! :) 18:19 cait hi #koha 18:19 jwagner Hi cait 18:20 druthb o/ <--to cait 18:20 cait hi jwagner and druthb 19:17 chris Morning 19:17 cait morning chris :) 19:17 chris help_demanders-- 19:18 chris cait: did you see the stats, something to show your bosses 19:19 chris Bsz-bw has a quite big role in 3.2.2 19:29 cait chris: :) 19:44 chris Ok off to drs 19:44 chris Bbl 20:37 owen Hi NCARLibra 20:37 NCARLibra Hi Owen 20:37 NCARLibra Michael here 20:38 NCARLibra I've got a question for ya... 20:38 NCARLibra Has anyone you know of been using link-resolvers (such as Exlibris' SFX) with Koha? 20:40 owen I think jwagner has worked on that? 20:40 NCARLibra How might I contact jwagner? 20:41 NCARLibra Jane...New Zealand? which library? 20:41 owen I was hoping she would chime in. She's here. 20:41 owen Jane Wagner of PTFS 20:42 NCARLibra ah, i see 20:42 owen (that is to say, she's logged in to #koha) 20:43 owen NCARLibra: Are you on the Koha mailing list? That would be a good place to ask next 20:46 NCARLibra I thought I was, but I must not be...haven't been getting any emails from that list. 20:47 NCARLibra how do i subscribe? 20:47 cait mailinglists? 20:47 owen http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 20:47 cait owen: you are not ibot :) 20:47 owen mailing lists? 20:47 ibot mailing lists are found at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 20:47 cait ibot: mailing lists? 20:47 ibot mailing lists are found at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 20:47 cait ah :) 20:48 druthb ibot: owen? 20:48 ibot bugger all, i dunno, druthb 20:48 druthb :-O 20:48 owen ...an enigma... 20:49 druthb ibot: owen is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, covered in awesome brilliance. 20:49 ibot OK, druthb. 20:50 druthb :) 20:50 owen :P 20:51 druthb :D 20:52 cait :) 20:53 gmcharlt owen++ 20:58 owen Time to leave on a high note! 21:02 * druthb waves to gmcharlt 21:03 cait hi gmcharlt 21:03 gmcharlt hi cait, druthb 21:05 druthb :) 21:07 cait :) 21:28 ebegin How are you using (or should be use) Materials specified (bound volume or other part) - 952$3 in an item? 21:36 chris back 21:38 cait wb chris 21:38 cait ebegin: not sure, we don't use it at the moment 21:43 cait fudge++ 22:27 cait chris: I rebased 5422 - now I see you have pulled the branch for qa 22:27 chris 5422? 22:27 cait bug 5422 22:27 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5422 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Separate state field for patron's adresses 22:28 chris ah yeah 22:28 chris im too speedy :) 22:28 cait there were only small issues with kohaversion, updatedatabase and opac/opac-userupdate.pl 22:28 cait no, you are ok 22:28 cait people are too slow testing :) 22:29 cait I forgot you had already pulled it - that's all 22:29 cait I asked magnus to test and wanted to check patches still apply 22:29 chris ah right 22:29 chris well if he tests that branch 22:30 chris when i merge it, ill deal with the conflicts (anything with kohaversion etc will pretty much always conflict) 22:30 cait yep 23:09 chris heya pianohack 23:09 ibot i guess pianohack is pianohacker 23:09 pianohack Hi guys. Could I ask a bug-reporting question (especially to jcamins if he's around)? 23:10 chris im not sure he is, but he'll read back 23:10 pianohack Cool 23:11 pianohack On bugs like bug 5520, where I had an idea, reported it as a bug, then developed the patch in about the same hour, am I the one that marks it fixed, or is jcamins? 23:11 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5520 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, pianohacker, REOPENED, No .packages file for Ubuntu Maverick 23:11 chris usually the person who reported, marks it resolved 23:11 pianohack Okay 23:11 chris even if thats the same person who fixed it :) 23:12 chris then the RM, will mark it closed upon release 23:12 chris (thats the theory anywya :-)) 23:12 chris did you see you made it into the 3.2.2 stats? 23:13 pianohack So, if I may ask, what was the reasoning behind replacing "have an idea for something that might be useful, send in a patch" with "have an idea, report a bug, create a patch, send in the patch, attach the bug to bugzilla, wait for the patch to be pushed, mark your own idea as implemented the way you wanted it to be"? 23:13 chris with 128 changed lines :) 23:13 pianohack (3.2.2 stats is cool :) 23:13 chris having a bug number for 1 23:13 chris so that when someone looks at the commit in the future they can find more info about it 23:14 chris 2, using hte statuses 23:14 chris we mark the bug patch-sent, needs signoff 23:14 chris that gets it into http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ 23:14 pianohack Ah, okay, to keep the QA managers, RM, etc in touch 23:14 chris into the top link there 23:15 pianohack That does make sense 23:15 chris so i can see, how many are waiting for qa, how many for me, (signed off) and how many for testers (pushed) 23:15 pianohack And I was going to ask, "why not just encourage people to write more descriptive commit messages?" but, well, nengard tried that at least twice with no effect 23:15 chris yeah its just so patches dont get lost 23:16 chris if its not attached to a bug, and i miss seeing it in the mail or whatever, or see it and think ill do that later 23:16 chris it could be months 23:16 chris until i find it again 23:16 pianohack Right 23:16 chris but if its attached to a bug and in a status ill see it each day when i check 23:17 pianohack I appreciate the QA process greatly, so I'm glad to do this :) 23:17 chris cool thanks 23:17 chris theres a ton of patches needing signoff if you ever get bored :) 23:17 chris 172 at last count 23:18 pianohack Some of those are also probably just old bugs that didn't get taken care of, no? 23:18 pianohack (I'm technically supposed to be doing bug wrangling, also) 23:18 chris you'd have to hope so :) 23:19 chris off topic, you still in miami? 23:19 pianohack Yes, actually 23:19 pianohack Went to the beach today 23:19 pianohack Got nicely broiled 23:19 pianohack Enjoying the crazy cuban family 23:19 pianohack How's your christmas holiday looking? 23:21 chris much the same, beaches and broiling .. minus the cubans :) 23:21 pianohack Hehe 23:21 pianohack Are you still in Wellington? 23:22 chris yup 23:22 chris @wunder wellington nz 23:22 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0�C (12:00 PM NZDT on December 23, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 23:22 chris pretty nice day today 23:23 pianohack That actually is pretty nice 23:23 pianohack How's the pacific this time of year? Atlantic was a bit chilly 23:23 chris its pretty cold in wellington 23:23 cait @wunder Konstanz 23:23 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.2�C (12:24 AM CET on December 23, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000.2 hPa (Rising). 23:23 chris nothing between us and antartica, so the water never really warms up 23:23 cait that is pretty cold...;) 23:24 pianohack @wunder Miami, FL 23:24 chris if you go up the coast a bit its not bad 23:24 munin pianohack: The current temperature in DV Floral Group, Miami, Florida is 20.2�C (6:27 PM EST on December 22, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady). 23:24 pianohack cool 23:24 pianohack We actually have almost the same weather, but it's summer there :) 23:24 chris yeah, we get up round 24-28 in january 23:25 chris but thats about as hot as it gets here 23:25 pianohack Imagine antarctica probably has something to do with that too 23:26 chris altho we never get to 0 in winter (maybe with windchill we do) 23:26 chris so its just got a much lower variation 23:26 pianohack Heh, more than I can say of golden, CO 23:26 chris hehe 23:26 pianohack Seaside towns are nice that way, not a crazy amount of variation 23:27 pianohack Miami just varies from 60-100 degF, though 23:27 pianohack Not optimal 23:27 chris unless you are 70 23:27 pianohack 70 degF is perfect miami weather 23:27 chris and then its all 'its too darn cold' :) 23:27 pianohack Oh 23:27 pianohack Age 23:27 pianohack Yes, then it is :) 23:29 pianohack On a koha-related topic, should I mark a rel_3_2 bug RESOLVED if its been fixed in HEAD for a while? 23:29 pianohack Lots of rel_3_2 bugs that seem to be from before the release 23:29 chris i think thats a valid approach 23:30 pianohack cool 23:30 cait getting late here - good night all :) 23:30 pianohack Off to wrangle some bugs 23:30 pianohack 'gnite, cait 23:30 cait pianohack++