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23:56 jcamins_a (just saw what he said about languages.
23:56 jcamins_a chris: your son is adorable!
23:52 * Brooke also waves
23:48 * druthb waves at jcamins_a.
23:48 * jcamins_a sticks his head in to see what's happening
23:31 Brooke cheers, chris.
23:30 * chris wanders off again
23:26 chris hi druthb
23:23 druthb good evening, #koha.
23:09 Brooke bust out the swim trunks!
22:56 moodaepo Yay above zero!
22:55 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 3.3�C (4:55 PM CST on November 29, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon CST Tuesday...
22:55 moodaepo @wunder 56001
22:47 wizzyrea but, crisis averted.
22:47 wizzyrea I guess it never had transparent png's in it until this latest update
22:44 wizzyrea yay, thanks
22:44 wizzyrea I like it!
22:43 darling and has a manual inside it too
22:43 darling works for me
22:43 trea 20.3 mb
22:43 trea i just downloaded it
22:42 wizzyrea I've checked and double checked but I want someone else to CHECK AGAIN. ;)
22:42 wizzyrea someone please verify that you get the 20mb file when you download http://koha-community.org/wp-content/uploads/kohadocs/en/koha3-2manual-en.pdf
22:39 wizzyrea hehe thanks
22:39 * Brooke hands wizzy some high test chocolate.
22:38 * wizzyrea mutters about transparent png's
22:38 wizzyrea ok teh pee dee eff of the manual is now working again.
21:56 chris night
21:56 cait ok, time for me here too - good night all!
21:51 cait good night jcamins :)
21:51 cait hand is asleep again, can't type properly
21:51 cait +j
21:50 cait +g
21:50 cait good night camins
21:50 jcamins_a For real, this time. ;)
21:50 jcamins_a Good night, #koha.
21:50 jcamins_a Learn something new every day. :)
21:49 hdl and result lists
21:49 hdl yes but also processing details.
21:49 jcamins_a (however, I had unlimited CPU on the server with 256MB/RAM, so I wasn't going to notice any CPU-bound issues)
21:48 jcamins_a hdl: I think that's mostly the circulation module, maybe?
21:48 hdl But well there is work for us.
21:48 hdl jcamins: Not only koha is memory consuming but also quite procintensive.
21:48 jcamins Good night, #koha
21:48 Brooke cheers, mate.
21:47 jcamins Time to head home.
21:45 Brooke that is in fact pretty dern sechsy. I've always used mac's. http://www.slc.bc.ca/cheats/marc.htm
21:43 jcamins :)
21:42 jcamins Goodness knows it took me long enough.
21:41 jcamins Thanks.
21:41 nengard jcamins it is a awfully nice table :)
21:41 sekjal I think they used to be, but were expanded sometime recently
21:41 jcamins Heh. I thought they were all limited to 10.
21:40 sekjal looks like items.ccode isn't properly respecting that
21:40 sekjal jcamins: yes, all the authorised values can be up to 80 char for the code
21:36 jcamins Ooh, I like table 5-1. :D
21:35 nengard thanks to wizzyrea the new manual updates are on the website
21:34 jcamins LOC allows 80 characters?
21:20 nengard hiya
21:19 * Brooke salutes nengard with respect.
21:19 chris hiya nengard and darling
21:15 darling hey all
21:11 * Brooke waves to darling
20:53 jcamins cait: much needed, I think. Thanks.
20:51 cait it sometimes helps me to concentrate ;)
20:50 * cait hands jcamins a cup of peppermint tea
20:49 jcamins Oh, for crying out loud! I transposed *another* part of the call number.
20:48 jwagner That too....
20:48 jcamins Maybe quit?
20:48 * jwagner is forgetting my commands here....
20:47 jwagner bye
20:47 jwagner exit
20:44 cait thx :)
20:43 * jcamins affixes cait to #koha with some raspberry fudge
20:42 chris_n just that they should be discussed and coordinated
20:42 * chris_n is not against any real coding style improvements
20:41 chris post ifs are loud
20:41 jcamins chris_n: ah, thanks.
20:41 chris apart from it looks better without them
20:41 chris push @authtypesloop, \%row;
20:41 chris im not sure there is a need to go remove all of these
20:41 chris chris_n: i dont mind removing the post ifs
20:41 chris_n jcamins: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596001735
20:40 hudsonbot chris_n: thanks a lot! om nom nom. how did you know that pumpkin-bread is my favorite food?
20:40 chris_n !hudson botsnack pumpkin-bread
20:40 chris Conway is a man
20:39 jcamins Ah. And Conway is a Perl style manual?
20:39 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4981, Tweak style of item listing on MARC display
20:39 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5051, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab
20:39 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5269 - link to patron edit form when editing turned off
20:39 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5281, "Check in" then "Renew" checkboxes checked in the same time
20:39 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: Updating Version Number to 3.02.01.001
20:39 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 5127: sample notice templates for suggestions
20:39 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 4211: ensure that suggestion emails have full details
20:39 chris_n but still, I think the thought should be aired on the dev list prior to changes being pushed
20:39 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 4211: more fixes to suggestion letter template handling
20:39 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 4211: This patch should provide a working way to send out mail from suggestions
20:39 hudsonbot * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.01.000
20:39 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #48: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/48/
20:39 gmcharlt jcamins: they keep perlcritic happy and avoid spurious warnings in the logs when the 'use warnings' pragma is turned on
20:38 chris_n no functional changes
20:38 chris_n jcamins: merely style changes
20:38 jcamins I saw a whole bunch of patches for it, and I couldn't really tell what they did.
20:38 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5453 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Variables declaration should not occur in conditionals
20:38 jcamins What's bug 5453 about?
20:32 hudsonbot Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4981, Tweak style of item listing on MARC display
20:32 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #178: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/178/
20:20 Brooke owen++
20:20 Brooke owen++
20:20 Brooke owen++
20:20 chris it wont work with the space
20:20 Brooke cause hey, patches = karma, no?
20:19 Brooke owen ++
20:19 Brooke owen ++
20:19 Brooke owen ++
20:18 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: Fix for Bug 4981, Tweak style of item listing on MARC display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd7949876854c1485f480e93181e9f989d3bb2ce> / Fix for Bug 5051, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ebb6e40ccdaebf0066db726be0d97045f37bcc2b> / Fix for Bug 5269 - link to patron edit form when editing turned off
20:17 * owen cheers for pushed patches
20:16 hudsonbot Starting build 48 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:09 chris yep
20:08 trea i had someone ask about it the other day
20:08 trea anyone worked with http://mongodb.org ?
20:07 chris yeah the whole message made no sense to me
20:07 hudsonbot Starting build 178 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:07 * owen wonders, 'auto generated style on the body tag?'
20:07 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5051, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab
20:07 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5269 - link to patron edit form when editing turned off
20:07 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5281, "Check in" then "Renew" checkboxes checked in the same time
20:07 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #177: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/177/
20:05 * Brooke saw it.
20:05 chris about 'rebranding' ;)
20:05 chris did you see the message from adam
20:05 chris hehe
20:04 owen Maybe I'll do what now?
19:58 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 4981, Tweak style of item listing on MARC display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=781b4e5fae89021c69c5de5e621faebb6457dd31>
19:48 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5051, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=083d3b1a929707a84fe4c97d4c815198bef9e1dc> / Fix for Bug 5269 - link to patron edit form when editing turned off <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=16c891092fec9b413fb5cb86cc4a0f8f7c43888f> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5281' into kcmaster <http://git.
19:45 hudsonbot Starting build 177 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:45 chris maybe owen-away will reply to adam :)
19:31 * richard waves back
19:31 * Brooke waves at richard.
19:31 richard hi
19:17 chris cool
19:16 tcohen chris: much thanks, i've to levae now but when I get home i'lll test
19:15 chris but its worth a try
19:15 chris then maybe
19:15 chris and, if nothing else has been changed :)
19:15 chris if the mapping is correct
19:14 tcohen right?
19:14 tcohen edit then save and it should get fixed
19:14 chris then try editing that record
19:14 chris make sure it is set to too 100a
19:14 cait it's under administration
19:13 chris check your koha->marc mapping
19:13 tcohen how can I fill it?
19:13 chris yep, thats the problme then
19:13 tcohen (for that biblionumber)
19:13 tcohen in the biblio table I have NULL value for the author
19:13 chris if thats empty, thats the problem
19:13 chris for the author column
19:13 chris look in the biblio table
19:13 tcohen thanks evry1
19:12 chris have you checked the db ?
19:12 tcohen I think i'll study the code a bit more and come back tomorrow
19:12 tcohen ok
19:12 chris yes, but in normal 3.0.x it shows on everywhere without xslt
19:12 tcohen it shows on opac, using xslt
19:12 chris because i have definitely seen author showing in 3.0.x
19:11 chris i suspect there must be something modified with your system
19:11 chris no
19:11 chris in the search?
19:11 tcohen s/data/records/
19:11 tcohen is there a routine to fill them from auth data?
19:10 tcohen ?
19:10 tcohen chris: if we're using authorities, do we need to have author!=NULL
19:09 tcohen you where right: NULL
19:09 chris so it has everything in biblio
19:09 chris yes its SELECT *
19:08 tcohen the "select FROM biblio LEFT JOIN biblioitems LEFT JOIN itemtypes" got me thinking
19:08 chris make sure you have something in biblio.author
19:08 chris tcohen: check the db
19:07 * jcamins thinks he must need another long weekend. After all that fixing, the call numbers are wrong. Again.
19:07 tcohen mmm... you've already answered that... sorry
19:07 chris yes
19:06 tcohen chris: in 3.0.x... does GetBiblioData handle links to auths?
19:03 jcamins Ah. Didn't think I recognized it.
19:03 cait yeah it is
19:03 chris hmmm
19:02 jcamins Is that a 3.0.x thing?
19:02 jcamins XSLTResultsFilename?
19:01 tcohen perhaps the path is hardcoded for staff
19:01 tcohen we have set our own in XSLTResultsFilename
19:01 tcohen :-D don't know :-D
19:00 cait ok, and you use the standard xslt in intranet?
18:59 tcohen it shows on OPAC
18:59 tcohen the problem I have is in the staff interface
18:59 tcohen we've got a modified xslt, you're right
18:59 rhcl hi Brooke
18:59 tcohen cait: sorry, just got a little discusion with a librarian
18:53 Brooke hi there :)
18:52 cait hi Brooke
18:49 chris My stop bbl
18:49 cait and it shows as autor personale
18:48 * cait can't type :)
18:48 cait stylesheet
18:48 cait stylehseet
18:48 cait that's not the normal xslt stylesheed - it's been modified
18:48 tcohen yes
18:48 cait tcohen: now you have it turned on?
18:47 munin druthb: Highest karma: "chris" (218), "gmcharlt" (207), and "owen" (182). Lowest karma: "<!" (-71), "failed" (-49), and "-" (-30). You (druthb) are ranked 14 out of 1089.
18:47 druthb @karma
18:47 chris http://fcq.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-ISBDdetail.pl?biblionumber=2233
18:47 tcohen right now
18:46 tcohen i'll turn it on
18:46 cait chris: hm sure? I think the | don't appear in xslt
18:46 chris Doesn't look like it
18:46 hudsonbot Katrin Fischer: Bug 5430: Follow-up, fixes error message when no 001 exists
18:46 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #176: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/176/
18:46 tcohen chris: xslt is off right now
18:45 chris Yes that is with xslt on
18:45 tcohen author 100 a Nombre Personal
18:44 tcohen this is the record on the OPAC
18:44 cait how does your koha to marc mapping look like ?
18:44 tcohen http://fcq.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=2233
18:44 cait and you have the author in 100?
18:44 tcohen cait: it doesn't show either
18:43 chris Because ppl certainly have authors showing in 3.0
18:43 cait yeah me too
18:42 chris I still think it is to do with xslt
18:42 cait tcohen: so the author still doesn't show when you turn the xslt display off?
18:42 chris And it certainly used to work, you are sure there is data in biblio.author?
18:42 chris tcohen: I doubt that or the title wouldn't show either
18:41 tcohen it looks like we only pass MARCUTHORS
18:41 cait ok
18:41 tcohen chris: the record itself or the author is never passed to the template in the params
18:40 chris Basically everything should behave the same
18:40 cait ok, will go to the wiki
18:40 chris There is a page on the wiki about them
18:40 cait hehe
18:40 chris Take a look at the new templates
18:39 chris Or
18:39 chris Any of the patches you want
18:39 cait chris: is there something I can test?
18:37 tcohen chris: thanks :-D
18:37 chris The author will be in the biblio hashref already
18:36 chris That subroutine is only for getting the additonal authors
18:36 tcohen }
18:35 tcohen $maxtag = "720";
18:35 tcohen $mintag = "700";
18:35 tcohen if ( $marcflavour eq "MARC21" ) {
18:35 cait tcohen: oh
18:35 tcohen but a Biblio:GetMarcAuthors thing...
18:35 tcohen cait: it looks like it is not a xslt think
18:35 chris And on the list of course
18:34 cait hi chris
18:33 chris cait: you are right, the patches that have come in the last few weeks are single patches and are just sitting in my inbox
18:30 cait wb magnus :)
18:29 cait nengard: not all I think
18:27 cait tcohen: oh
18:26 nengard Pilot and crew have boarded .. I should get packed up ttyl
18:26 tcohen in 3.0 there's no way to switch (by configuration) to no-xslt in staff only
18:26 cait perhaps you can use the normals display in staff for a while longer
18:25 cait understandable :)
18:25 tcohen a lot of testing is needed before we step into a new version :-D
18:25 tcohen cait: i'll try. an upgrade here is a complicated task as we have +30 live libraries now
18:24 nengard Cait he has them in qa branches
18:24 hudsonbot Starting build 176 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:22 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: bug 5217 incrementing db version number
18:22 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 5127: database update to add the suggestion notification templates
18:22 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 5127: sample notice templates for suggestions
18:22 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 4211: ensure that suggestion emails have full details
18:22 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 4211: more fixes to suggestion letter template handling
18:22 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 4211: This patch should provide a working way to send out mail from suggestions
18:22 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #175: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/175/
18:22 cait chris: is there a list of patches that need sign-off? can we help testing?
18:20 cait tcohen: you could update to 3.2
18:18 chris right time to finish making the kids lunches, bb from the bus
18:14 chris hi druthb
18:14 chris i must mail colin again
18:13 * druthb waves to chris.
18:13 chris but there are quite a few new ones over the last week that need qa/sign offs
18:13 chris got a bunch of signed off patches (thanks gmcharlt) to check and push today
18:12 jcamins I think it's lunch time. Save the merge conflicts for later.
18:10 jcamins Or, rather, never successfully used 3.0.x.
18:10 jcamins I don't know for sure about this, though. I never used 3.0.x.
18:10 jcamins Probably.
18:10 tcohen is there a bug entry for that?
18:10 jcamins I'm not certain, but I *think* that in 3.0.x, the XSLT should only be used for the OPAC.
18:09 tcohen jcamins: you mean we should not use xslt? or not use it for staff?
18:08 cait chris++
18:08 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5430' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c303a4e95425720168f0db7367d2af1e4fd8778> / Bug 5430: Follow-up, fixes error message when no 001 exists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f90f92f80f54b658843281bd7eb013cc87786ce9> / bug 5217 incrementing db version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=co
18:08 jcamins tcohen: I think XSLT is broken for staff display in 3.0.x.
18:05 cait and your author is in 100?
18:05 cait hm
18:04 tcohen xslt, yes marc21
18:03 cait tcohen: are you using xslt display? marc21 or unimarc?
18:01 hudsonbot Starting build 175 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:59 tcohen ?
17:59 tcohen hi, anyone had the main author not shown in record detail (staff), only aditional authors are shown (3.0.6)
17:59 nengard :(
17:59 nengard I rest my case
17:59 nengard Of typos
17:58 nengard Tiny touch keyboard leads to lots if typos
17:58 jcamins I guess we know that nengard is using a keyboard not a number pad. :)
17:57 nengard St was at
17:57 nengard Or st least give him a cuddle
17:57 nengard Last in waiting area has tiny pup with her .. I wanna go steal him
17:46 nengard Hehe
17:46 jcamins Which reminds me... I have pizza dough in the fridge.
17:45 jcamins Not a Thanksgiving pizza, just a pizza pizza.
17:45 nengard :)
17:45 jcamins Oh, and pizza!
17:45 * jcamins offers nengard the last chocolate roll
17:44 nengard Bleh .. airport lunch is icky but for $8 u bet im finishing it
17:10 * druthb is owned by Basement Cat.
17:08 jcamins (shh, don't tell him)
17:07 jcamins My cat doesn't have any teeth.
17:07 jcamins Well, except for the teeth.
17:06 wizzyrea hee
17:05 jcamins wizzyrea: that looks like my cat.
17:04 wizzyrea http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/edd5ccb2-98ee-4078-8a91-b39c1598f803.jpg
17:03 wizzyrea and thanks :)
17:03 wizzyrea hehe I will
17:03 cait but share with your family ;)
17:03 * cait hands wizzyrea mooore fudge
17:03 wizzyrea http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/funny-pictures-gif-cat-lolly.gif?w=219&h=148
17:03 wizzyrea and that
17:03 * druthb thinks wizzyrea wants more fudge.
17:02 wizzyrea http://icanhascheezburger.com/tag/moar/
17:02 nengard Hi from airport shuttle :)
17:02 wizzyrea NOM NOM NOM
17:01 * cait hands wizzyrea some chocolate fudge
17:01 * wizzyrea snickers at the backlog
16:51 cait don't be so hard to yourself
16:49 jcamins And wrong. Very, *very* wrong.
16:48 cait hehe
16:44 jcamins The call numbers I came up with? Very creative.
16:44 jcamins *much needed
16:43 jcamins I think the long weekend was just needed. I came in this morning to discover that all last week I was showing signs of extreme dyslexia.
16:37 cfouts the most memory-hungry piece of Koha in my experience is that which MySQL requires in order to run efficiently. specifically, the InnoDB buffer
16:35 jcamins Not really, no.
16:35 cfouts ;)
16:35 cfouts people still program in C?
16:34 jcamins cfouts: true. I learned programming from very traditional texts- I was surprised to learn a few months back that most people have given up on bitfields in C.
16:33 cfouts memory being as cheap as it is these days, it's hard to say what qualifies as "hungry"
16:31 cait I think koha itself is not the problem perhaps, but the zebra indexes
16:25 jcamins Or, others have found it to be so.
16:25 jcamins I have just learned that Koha is memory hungry.
16:24 jcamins How much memory do most people use with Koha?
16:11 cait lol
16:10 jcamins cait++ # for teaching me the word "kabelsalat"
16:08 markk 10x anyway
16:08 markk oh .. i see
16:08 jcamins markk: sorry, we buy pre-printed barcodes and scan them in.
16:07 cait markk: sorry, we don't use it
16:07 markk guys ... i'm having the same issue always .. sorry for it ... but the barcode incrementation is driving me crazy!! anyone had any issue with it?
16:05 sekjal brb
16:04 * druthb feels very old, suddenly.
16:04 cait hehe
16:03 jcamins cait++ # because that was perfect timing
16:03 owen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Westheimer
16:03 cfouts http://drruth.com/
16:03 cait who is dr. ruth?
16:03 owen ...and then I always start to wonder if anyone knows who Dr. Ruth is anymore
16:02 * druthb isn't nearly as sassy as that other Dr. Ruth.
16:02 * owen too!
16:02 * druthb chuckles.
16:02 cfouts I keep reading your moniker as "Dr. Ruth"
16:01 cfouts good day, druthb
16:01 druthb mornin', cfouts.
15:57 jcamins It seems like an odd change, so I'm wondering if this is a "peculiarity of Perl that jcamins isn't familiar with."
15:57 jcamins Oh, does anyone know why Zeno Tajoli changed the elsif ($marcflavour eq "UNIMARC")'s to ifs with his latest patch?
15:35 trea morning
15:35 trea o/
15:32 * druthb waves to trea.
15:30 sekjal s/'d//
15:29 sekjal well, that'd saves me some running around
15:29 sekjal it was in DEEP discharge... which is odd, because I'd recharged it fully yesterday evening
15:29 jcamins But apparently you didn't need to do that.
15:29 jcamins sekjal: if you have a GSM phone, I've had good luck with pulling the SIM card, turning the phone on, then replacing the SIM card.
15:28 magnus woot!
15:28 sekjal huh
15:28 sekjal it must have heard me, because it just turned on
15:27 tcohen (koha 3.0.6)
15:27 tcohen hi, how can I get main author show in record detail (staff), only aditional authors are shown
15:27 sekjal it bricked itself
15:27 magnus "has bricked" or "has been bricked"? ;-)
15:26 magnus sekjal: ouch
15:24 sekjal my phone has bricked. this is very frustrating, as I'm waiting on a call
15:16 cait it was :)
15:15 wizzyrea ooo, sounds fun
15:15 wizzyrea brief = bad but nice = good
15:15 cait my best friend from library school was visiting
15:15 cait no holidays here - but a very nice weekend
15:15 wizzyrea nice :)
15:11 jcamins Mine was nice, albeit brief.
15:02 wizzyrea thanks everybody, I trust that everyone had a lovely holiday?
15:02 cait save travels nengard
15:02 cait hi wizzyrea
15:01 jcamins Happy post-Thanksgiving, wizzyrea. :)
15:00 wizzyrea hello
15:00 kmkale buy all. must head home if I am get any dinner
15:00 * druthb waves happily to wizzyrea.
14:59 nengard talk to you all when i'm in VT
14:59 nengard now time to clean up here and head to the airport - my second home
14:59 nengard cait comment added
14:57 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3777 trivial, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Field Sizes Inconsistent
14:57 cait oh, if someone has a little time - waiting for feedback about bug 3777
14:55 cait 2 persons for a weekend in 34 qm - my apartment needs some attention now :)
14:55 * druthb looks at that bug, and boggles.
14:55 cait but have to do some cleaning here first before I get to the other computer
14:55 kmkale :)
14:55 cait will do :)
14:55 jcamins :)
14:54 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5, ---, camins, ASSIGNED, Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors
14:54 jcamins cait: could you post the recipe to bug 5158 as well?
14:54 cait I saved it to a text file
14:54 cait oh
14:53 jcamins Wait, no, just kidding. Apparently paste.koha-community.org expires pastes. :(
14:53 kmkale cait: kmkale@gmail.com
14:53 jwagner Mmmmm
14:53 jcamins Here it is.
14:53 kmkale jcamins jwagner when I get home will send you guyz some cashew nuts
14:52 cait kmkale: it's on my other computer, but if you give me your address I will send it to youlater
14:52 jcamins cait: of course!
14:52 cait jcamins: can I send your writeup to kmkale?
14:52 jwagner nengard, sugar = increased adrenaline = increased Koha productivity. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
14:51 cait hehe, it's jared's recipe
14:51 kmkale :)
14:51 nengard ahhhh - stop with all the sugar :) hehe
14:51 * jwagner hands kmkale some chocolate chip cookies
14:51 kmkale thanks cait with a recipe plz. may be I will surprize the wife in this lifetime
14:51 cait I know, virtual doesn't taste as good, but it has no calories ;)
14:50 * jcamins beams kmkale a chocolate roll (think cinnamon roll, but with grated chocolate in place of the cinnamon-sugar)
14:50 * cait hands kmkale some chocolate fudge
14:50 kmkale hungry
14:50 kmkale and food discussions are always when I am sitting late in office all alone :(
14:50 nengard sounds way better than turkey :)
14:49 cait we had no thanksgiving here, but made chocolate fudge
14:49 kmkale :)
14:49 cait wanted to add that too hehe
14:49 cait jwagner++
14:49 munin jwagner: The operation succeeded. Quote #107 added.
14:49 jwagner @quote add <kmkale> This is a food channel. Sometimes we discuss Koha too ;)
14:47 sekjal sure will
14:47 nengard send me that when it's done :)
14:47 sekjal she took pictures all along the way
14:47 sekjal my wife is going to blog it, hopefully
14:46 jcamins Yes, I have to say that sounds delicious.
14:46 nengard send it my way :)
14:46 nengard sekjal did you have a recipe for that
14:45 jcamins Something about "how much pizza do you think we can eat, anyway? We're just two people!"
14:44 sekjal oh, and topped with gravy
14:44 sekjal the crust was stuffing, then it was topped with cranberry sauce, mashed potatoes, roasted celery/onions, turkey and a light cheese blend
14:44 kmkale This is a food channel. Sometimes we discuss Koha too ;)
14:44 jcamins I think I've been banned from making pizza again this year.
14:43 nengard ooo
14:43 sekjal we made an awesome Thanksgiving Dinner pizza
14:43 nengard :)
14:43 sekjal even with having the in-laws over for dinner
14:43 nengard so was mine!!
14:43 druthb mine was Potter-ized, also.
14:43 sekjal I got a chance to relax a little
14:42 nengard productive
14:42 jcamins But nice enough. Yours?
14:41 jcamins Dishearteningly brief.
14:40 druthb peaceful. :)
14:40 sekjal for those of you who had it, how was your holiday weekend?
14:40 sekjal morning, kmkale, jcamins
14:40 jcamins Morning, sekjal.
14:36 kmkale hi cait sekjal
14:36 sekjal morning, everyone!
14:35 jcamins Marcel_de_Rooy++
14:35 * druthb waves to cait and sekjal.
14:35 jcamins Hi cait.
14:32 jwagner Hi cait
14:30 cait hi #koha
14:29 * jcamins thinks someone's having trouble with the online calendar. We have an event "New Event" tomorrow, and on Friday the staff calendar says "out: working from home"
14:28 magnus hi folks! ;-)
14:28 jwagner Hi again magnus
14:22 kmkale hi magnus
14:22 druthb Hi, magnus! :)
14:22 magnus g'day #koha
14:22 kmkale hi jcamins
14:22 markk good morning jcamins
14:21 jcamins Good morning again, #koha
14:13 jwagner Hi kmkale
14:12 nengard kmkale, i don't know for sure but it sounds like the answer to your question is - nope
14:06 kmkale Is there any setting in Koha to allow patrons to return books at any branch *without* turning off independent branches?
14:03 nengard hi kmkale
14:02 owen Hi kmkale
14:02 * druthb waves to kmkale
14:02 kmkale hi owen nengard jwagner
14:01 kmkale hi druthb
13:32 * druthb giggles a little.
13:32 jwagner And harrumph!
13:31 munin druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #106 added.
13:31 druthb @quote add <jwagner> Bah, humbug
13:31 munin druthb: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
13:31 druthb @quote add <jwagner> Bah, humbug
13:30 nengard yes owen - among other kinds of geeks
13:30 jwagner Bah, humbug
13:30 * jwagner is a Scrooge
13:30 owen A Christmas geek?
13:30 * nengard is a geek
13:30 nengard LOVE Christmas Music!!!
13:28 owen We get so much Christmas music against our will, I can't imagine listening to it voluntarily
13:27 druthb One of the Internet DJs I listen to occasionally flatly refuses to play any Christmas music until after her birthday on Dec 15. It's a good policy.
13:26 * jwagner tries to avoid all shopping malls during the month of December
13:26 druthb Yes, the Christmas music blitz has begun.
13:26 jwagner But if we're finished with Thanksgiving, that means .... OH NO! RUN AND HIDE FOR A MONTH!!!
13:24 owen Happy finished-with-Thanksgiving my fellow Americans!
13:24 * druthb waves to owen.
13:23 * druthb had to break out her heavy coat for the morning commute today.
13:21 nengard sometimes they seem to forget that
13:21 nengard yuh huh
13:21 druthb They have fur coats on, and you don't!
13:21 jonefuroy ;)
13:21 druthb lol
13:20 nengard okay - i don't care if the pups are having fun in the cold - it is time to close the door or i might lose a toe ....
13:12 jonefuroy maybe not a problem...
13:09 jonefuroy ??
13:09 jonefuroy DBD::mysql
13:09 jonefuroy more cpan problems
13:09 jonefuroy hello! its me again...
13:09 Nate hello druthb
13:06 druthb Good day,#koha.
12:48 magnus lunchtime!
12:48 cait going for a walk - bbl )
12:47 cait hi jwagner
12:44 jwagner Hi magnus
12:43 magnus hiya jwagner
12:36 magnus and yes this irc channel can be a real lifesaver! ;-)
12:36 magnus hei, jonefuroy ;-)
12:36 jonefuroy hi magnus!
12:35 magnus i thought debian squeeze had all of them, but not necessarily ubuntu... i might be wrong, though!
12:35 * jcamins_a leaves to get ready for work. He really is "_away" ;)
12:34 jcamins_a Good morning, Nate.
12:34 jonefuroy it does... at least for some of them... : libmarc-crosswalk-dublincore-perl Convert data between MARC and Dublin Core
12:34 Nate Hi magnus, jcamins and everyone else!
12:34 jcamins_a At least, that's what I was told.
12:33 jcamins_a So does the latest Debian.
12:33 magnus hi Nate
12:33 magnus cool
12:33 jcamins_a Ubuntu has them.
12:33 magnus but isn't the cpan command there because there are no packages for those modules?
12:32 jonefuroy LOVE YOU GUYS!
12:32 jonefuroy aahhH! this is a life saver irc channel!
12:32 jcamins_a (put "lib" at the beginning, "-perl" at the end, and replace each '::' with a '-')
12:32 jcamins_a jonefuroy: the packages should have names like libmarc-crosswalk-perl
12:30 cait but using the packages is better anyway
12:30 cait perhaps 22 or 21
12:30 cait I think cpan works over ftp
12:30 jonefuroy Connecting to www.perl.org|207.171.7.63|:80... failed: Connection timed out. Retrying.
12:30 jonefuroy u wouldent know what this is called in synaptic?
12:30 magnus what's the error message, if any?
12:29 jonefuroy i can ping and do almost anything from terminal, but this one didn't want to download..
12:28 jonefuroy well im at work and i got the http proxy going and can do almost anything...
12:28 magnus why it's blocking cpan
12:28 magnus hm, guess it depends on how the firewall is set up...
12:27 jonefuroy im using ubuntu...
12:27 jonefuroy thank you!
12:27 jonefuroy i'll try!
12:26 cait if you are using debian or ubuntu that should be the case
12:26 cait can you install those modules from your os packaging system?
12:25 cait sorry, I am not sure what you can do
12:16 jonefuroy not writing smiles ;)
12:16 jonefuroy to work
12:15 jonefuroy behind a firewall and cant get : Run the following command: $ sudo cpan MARC::Crosswalk::DublinCore GD GD::Barcode::UPCE Email::Date \ HTML::Scrubber Algorithm::CheckDigits::M43_001 Biblio::EndnoteStyle \ Locale::Currency::Format
12:15 jonefuroy insalling and having some issues!
12:15 jonefuroy hi chan!
10:51 bigbrovar hi cait
10:51 kmkale hi cait
10:50 cait hi kmkale and bigbrovar
10:46 magnus hiya kmkale
10:46 kmkale hi magnus
10:43 magnus yay! ;-)
10:41 bigbrovar just upgraded from koha 3.2.0 to 3.2.1 and I have to say it was as smooth as butter :)
09:52 cait ah, now it works
09:51 cait hm logs are down
09:44 cait morning magnus :)
09:43 magnus hiya cait & #koha
09:42 munin cait: The operation succeeded.
09:42 cait @later tell jcamins not that the logs are back I can see you already discussed the solution I used in my patch :) and the fudge is still great, even for breakfast.
09:41 cait hi #koha
07:55 irmaB chris thanks.
07:55 irmaB that is the one !
07:48 chris http://koha-community.org/files/2010/02/kohalogo-g.png is one
07:47 chris irmaB: which link? there are lots of them
07:47 chris look promising
07:47 chris fredericd: http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/Devel-Leak-Object-1.01/lib/Devel/Leak/Object.pm and http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/Devel-Leak-Module-0.01_04/lib/Devel/Leak/Module.pm
07:46 kmkale bbl
07:45 irmaB thanks
07:45 irmaB Could someone share the link to the green Koha logo?
07:44 irmaB Hi all
07:36 chris or under mod_perl there are some tools to watch thread size
07:36 chris running under plack, and using top and hitting a few pages might give you a hint where the big ones are
07:35 fredericd all but easy
07:35 fredericd i'm playing with the idead of finding a cycle and then documenting a methodoly
07:35 chris yep
07:34 fredericd yes, it's like finding a needle in a haystack
07:34 chris finding them is the trick
07:33 chris we definitely have leaks
07:33 chris but i think its quite likely somewhere we have a marc object which refers to something that refers to the marc object
07:32 chris a borrower who links to issues which links to items which links to the borrower
07:32 chris maybe in some scripts too
07:32 chris and/or search.pn
07:31 chris fredericd: could be anywhere, but im almost certain biblio.pm
07:24 fredericd Chris: In which module do you think there is a chance to find memory leaks? Dou you have any suspect?