Time  Nick       Message
23:56 jcamins    Help.
23:56 jcamins    Ohhh.
23:55 jcamins    What's with the questionmarks that have appeared in the cataloging module?
23:55 jcamins    Hm.
23:47 jcamins    Bother.
23:46 * jcamins  has forgotten his SSH passphrase
23:37 jcamins    Yeah, that was a dumb question. I couldn't figure out why I was missing bibs 6-100, but it turns out that's because I deleted them.
23:18 chris_n    only on inserts/updates
23:10 jcamins    I was in the wrong database.
23:10 jcamins    Never mind.
23:07 jcamins    Does the timestamp get updated when you select a record?
22:58 chris_n    lol robin
22:55 jcamins    xml_querying_with_reports++
21:44 robin      http://awfullibrarybooks.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/How-Pigeons-Pay-002.jpg <-- Oh they will, they will pay!
20:49 jcamins    Bye.
20:48 wizzyrea   farewell
20:46 chris      ok, im outta here
20:30 mib_mike   Thanks, chris. I wil
20:29 chris      or something that is actually useful :)
20:29 chris      "You have no valid budgets"
20:29 chris      because the error message should be
20:29 chris      and if so, lodge a bug
20:29 mib_mike   In fact, the end date of ALL my budgets seem to have passed!
20:29 chris      see if that fixes it
20:29 chris      could you change it
20:29 chris      i suspect that is the problem
20:28 mib_mike   Hmm.  It looks like the end date of that budget has passed.
20:28 mib_mike   I'm not much of a user.  What does that mean?
20:27 mib_mike   one is listed as both active and locked.
20:27 mib_mike   I've got budgets.
20:26 chris      :)
20:26 chris      they live on as remotes
20:26 chris      :)
20:26 gmcharlt   chris_n: old nicks are forever, I see ;)
20:26 chris      mib_mike: can  you check your budgets etc, make sure they are all set up?
20:26 brendan    :)
20:26 brendan    fb = facebook ;_
20:25 chris      if i merged from someone else's repo
20:25 chris      or fbcit/something
20:25 chris      you might see some galen/something
20:25 chris      means i merged it from git.koha-community.org
20:25 brendan    ha - that was easy
20:25 chris      brendan: koha-community
20:25 jcamins    brendan: Koha Community?
20:25 chris      right, acquisitions changed totally
20:25 mib_mike   Actually I should say I get AN error in either case. I don't know it's the same one.
20:24 brendan    what does the kc stand for in the new branches that are appearing?
20:24 mib_mike   Well, it was working in 3.00.06.  I get the same error adding orders to new baskets or old ones.
20:23 chris      and is this a brand new basket, or one that came across in the upgrade?
20:23 chris      have you defined budgets etc?
20:23 mib_mike   No problem.
20:23 chris      ah right
20:23 chris      so now i always have to ask :)
20:23 chris      ppl kept writing 3.00.02 as 3.02
20:22 chris      ta
20:22 mib_mike   koha-3.02.00
20:22 chris      it always confuses me when ppl leave out .
20:22 chris      3.2.0 or 3.0.2
20:20 mib_mike   Mandatory parameter budget_id missing at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Acquisitions.pm line 903 called from acqui/addorder.pl
20:20 mib_mike   I'm getting a software error in koha 3.02 when adding a new order to a basket
19:56 mib_mike   sources.list is a configuration file for apt that tells apt where on the internet it can look for packages.
19:56 reva       Ok, I will try and modify it tomorrow as they are closing for the day. Thanks and bye everyone. Sorry I misspoke; that was my password.
19:55 mib_mike   sudo shouldn't ask for the ROOT password, it should ask for YOUR password.
19:55 mib_mike   It's also possible you've got some other problem.
19:54 reva       Ok, it could be. but I did sudo and it asked for the root password. So I should be able to run commands using the list.
19:54 mib_mike   You might have a "non-standard" source list.
19:54 mib_mike   No, postfix is a standard package.
19:54 reva       Ok, maybe that has some other address other than the standard address for fetching packages?
19:53 mib_mike   It's possible that your source list is very restrictive.
19:53 reva       But I have no problem it running, no error messages. So I am not sure.
19:53 mib_mike   The source.list is how apt knows where to find packages
19:52 reva       ok, I see. may be I have to go into source.list and tweak that?
19:52 jcamins    reva: what I was saying with that link is that if you are unable to install with apt-get, there is a problem with Ubuntu on your computer.
19:51 reva       Again Koha 3.2 is slick. Congrats Koha.
19:51 reva       jcamins, I have noted it down and try it tommorrow. Thanks mib_mike and jcamins. One more week!:)
19:50 mib_mike   Note the "future versions area"  We're past hardy and intrepid already
19:45 mib_mike   I mean repository sources.
19:45 mib_mike   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
19:45 mib_mike   I'm sorry, I mispoke.
19:45 jcamins    http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/postfix
19:45 wizzyrea   surely not for postfix
19:44 jcamins    I don't think so.
19:44 mib_mike   I'm a bit rusty here, but you probably have to modify the package sources
19:44 reva       And my virtual box install is also boots from the virtual hard disk.
19:43 wizzyrea   does the server have internet access?
19:43 reva       No, this is hard disk install.
19:43 reva       I still get no candidate as response.
19:42 mib_mike   You didn't boot from the cd, did you?
19:42 mib_mike   apt-get should be able to fetch stuff.
19:42 wizzyrea   sudo apt-get install postfix would probably do it
19:41 reva       it says postfix is not available. The Live CD builder trims the packages down, so that it can inside one CD. So I have to probably fetch it from an ftp site.
19:40 reva       ok, I am doing it just now
19:40 mib_mike   yes, it's a package
19:40 mib_mike   sudo apt-get install postfix
19:40 reva       or use wget to get it?
19:39 reva       ok, so is it a package I go looking for?
19:39 mib_mike   So yeah, you'll have to install it.
19:39 reva       There is so ls cannot access it because no file or directory.
19:38 jcamins    If you got more, try retyping.
19:38 jcamins    reva: if you entered the line that mib_mike suggested, you should have one or zero lines.
19:38 mib_mike   It shouldn't have been more than one line.
19:37 reva       Let me pipe it through less and read and tell you as a lot scrolled by.
19:37 wizzyrea   ubuntu? sudo /etc/init.d/postfix start, usually
19:36 reva       let me try listing
19:36 mib_mike   what about "ls -l /etc/init.d/postfix "
19:36 reva       so what would I do to start it running?
19:35 reva       not off the top of my head, I have to check with the government agency.
19:35 mib_mike   Well, it's not running, anyway.
19:35 reva       It comes up with abbs 2375 2371 15:49 pts/0 00:00:00 grep postfix. Does that mean it is not installed?:)
19:33 mib_mike   O.K.  also do you know who provides your smtp service?
19:33 reva       Hold on for a second, I have to boot into my system.
19:32 reva       I will try it now.
19:31 reva       Because the system minimal packages installed, I do not think that it has postfix installed.
19:31 mib_mike   what happens when you run "ps -ef | grep postfix" at your command line?
19:31 reva       No, not yet. Is it a package I can have downloaded and installed?
19:30 reva       Ok, so how would I install postfix so that my Ubuntu can connect to our government mail server and send email? So that Koha that is inside can send emails.
19:30 mib_mike   is postfix installed on your system?
19:29 mib_mike   reva: I'm running the same system you have.
19:29 reva       I am starting from scratch.
19:28 mib_mike   reva are you getting errors, or are you starting from scratch?
19:28 reva       hi mib_mike, I wanted to set up my OS so that it can send email from Koha. My 3.2 is running on Ubuntu 10.10
19:20 mib_mike   reva I just got here. Can you restate your problem
19:18 reva       Ok, I will let the correct people know here so they can do it. I will look for the suggested documentation to set up. As I said, we run our current hard disk installed Koha on Ubuntu server 10.04 and the 3.2 Live CD runs on Ubuntu 10.10.  So it should be possible to set it up as mail server. I think.
19:17 wizzyrea   hey richard :)
19:16 jcamins    You'll probably want to look online for documentation on how to set up a mail server.
19:15 jcamins    reva: yes, that is correct. You need to make sure you are able to send e-mail from the server.
19:15 reva       Ok, I am seeing this as the solution for us (though I do not understand postfix): Koha relies a lot on the mail functions of the server.  For example I have my server running postfix and set to send email through another mail server.
19:09 richard    hi
19:06 jcamins    (that was the tenth result on Google for "koha send email," in case you were curious)
19:06 reva       Thanks, jcamins. I will read through and contact the people in the department for it.
19:05 jcamins    Here. http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Koha-devel-koha-mail-configuraiton-help-td3059408.html
19:05 jcamins    reva: I think there was just a discussion about this on the mailing list. You need to have someone way of sending e-mail from your Koha server. Which means you need a mail server.
19:04 reva       Because my Koha is running on an Ubuntu server.
19:03 reva       jcamins, we have a government mail server; so there is nothing I have to do from inside Koha the email my cart? (So I need to set my Ubuntu to the mail server address?)
18:59 reva       Congrats on 3.2. I have the Live Cd version of it in the virtual box now. It looks good with all the clone working on the subfields. And my colors are desert adobe with nutmeg.
18:58 jcamins    (on your server, I mean, not your desktop)
18:58 jcamins    reva: you'd have to set up a mail server on your computer. That's not really a Koha thing, though.
18:56 reva       ok chris, where do I set a mail server address to send the mail out. That is why my cart email does not work?
18:56 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5227' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2fa851ccaca0d61d5de6c35752d368f540fb02e>
18:55 chris      you dont, pop is for fetching email reva
18:52 seneca     cool
18:52 reva       hi, i am reading the question on emaililng the cart. Mine has problems emailing (I am operating from Koha 3.0.6). Where do I set the pop-mail server info?
18:52 chris      i run it every 15
18:52 chris      up to the user
18:52 seneca     is there a recommendation for how often to run that script or is it just up to the user?
18:51 seneca     and is apparently a cron send ;)
18:51 seneca     I guess that does work now
18:51 seneca     oh! I just ran the process_message_queue script and the holds emails were delivered!
18:50 chris      once you have the cron jobs running
18:50 chris      yes, i have libraries using those in production
18:44 seneca     to your knowledge, do the fines and due dates email work?
18:43 seneca     that would explain that
18:43 seneca     ah - a not-there-yet feature. eh?
18:43 brendan    emailing of the hold to librarian - doesn't work
18:40 seneca     how about the emailing of hold being set to the librarian - is that a cron send?
18:39 seneca     ok, the emailing of carts works
18:39 wizzyrea   oh cool.
18:39 wizzyrea   maybe you have very aggressive pop up blocking?
18:39 seneca     yeah, I got it...
18:38 wizzyrea   the cart works on mine which is tracking master
18:37 seneca     hold on..
18:37 jcamins    Hm.
18:37 seneca     I've got three things
18:37 jcamins    seneca: if you don't have anything in your cart, it won't do anything.
18:36 seneca     hrm...looks like the cart function isn't working... (I just upgraded to 3.2)  All you do is click on the cart button to view the cart, right?
18:33 jcamins    seneca: the latter.
18:32 seneca     at this point, I'm trying to get any email to work, so I suppose let's try for non-cron emails first. :)
18:32 seneca     you mean the user "koha" or the user that koha is runnign as?
18:32 owen       seneca: Although it depends on which kind of email you're trying to send. Emailing a cart, for instance, should happen right away (no cronjob)
18:31 brendan    your kohauser
18:31 brendan    cronjobs usually are under the koha/misc/cronjobs
18:30 seneca     cronjobs as which user?
18:30 brendan    and also under koha > tools> notice/status/triggers
18:30 brendan    seneca yes look at your cronjobs
18:30 seneca     I saw in some google search result that there might be cronjobs to set, but I haven't seen what those might be
18:29 seneca     my thoughts exactly ;)
18:28 wizzyrea   hrmm
18:26 seneca     is there a global "enable email" checkbox or a line in a config file?
18:25 seneca     though I very probably have missed a step
18:25 seneca     my server can send emails just fine from the command line, but I can't get Koha to send anything
18:24 seneca     Anyone have experience with getting Koha to send emails?
18:18 wizzyrea   yep :)
18:17 reva       Thanks wizzyrea.
18:01 wizzyrea   the manual for the scanner, i should say, not the koha manual.
18:01 reva       Thanks.
18:00 wizzyrea   the code to scan to enable it is usually in the manual
18:00 jcamins    That has nothing to do with Koha, though.
18:00 trea       that is based on the model of scanner you have
18:00 wizzyrea   ^^
17:59 trea       reva: you should be able to configure the scanner itself to sit in automatic mode (ie, always scanning)
17:59 wizzyrea   um, normally people set the scanner to always on for that sort of thing
17:59 reva       so what will be the trigger for sef-checkout?
17:58 owen       reva: In Koha? Your web browser can't control your scanner.
17:58 reva       Ok, I will. thanks. Also, is there ar button with a label "ready to check out?" that when you click it which triggers the scanner to turn on ?
17:36 jcamins    It will be different for each different Content Management System. If you're using Joomla, that would be the one to look into.
17:36 jcamins    To clarify, CMS=Content Management System.
17:35 jcamins    reva: no, but Googling might help.
17:35 reva       Thanks jcamins. Would you have a link that I can use?
17:34 jcamins    I'm going to speculate that they mostly just use HTML or some sort of custom markup.
17:34 jcamins    reva: you might consider asking that question in the CMS support forums.
17:32 reva       hi good afternoon, Would any of you know what exchange standard is compliant with a content management system like Joomla?
17:10 cait       re
17:05 cait       changing laptop
16:57 rashed     السلام عليكم
16:50 briceSanc  in /tmp at the beginning of my debian
16:49 brendan    ah where did you find it?
16:49 briceSanc  brendan, it's ok, i found it in other place, not in koha tmp
16:48 munin      brendan: bankhead was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 0 days, 18 hours, 11 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <bankhead> quit
16:48 brendan    @seen bankhead
16:43 briceSanc  it's still me (brice_)
16:43 brice_     i have nothing in tmp and in var/log
16:40 brice_     i will chech that
16:39 brendan    do you have a sessionlog in there?
16:39 brice_     ok
16:38 brendan    yup weirdo
16:38 brice_     weird
16:38 brendan    brice_ they are on my system (it's written there by the www-data user)
16:37 brice_     it's wired...
16:36 brendan    they should be in the /tmp folder
16:35 brice_     do you know where the session are stored when i use "tmp" in sysprefs because the /tmp folder stay empty
16:32 cait       now I am sooo tired
16:31 cait       about open source :)
16:31 cait       not only questions, but people talking with each other
16:31 cait       the discussion was interesting
16:30 jcamins    True, but what's important is that you thought it went well. ;)
16:30 cait       but I am not really objective :)
16:30 jcamins    Good!
16:29 cait       I think it was good
16:29 cait       hi jcamins
16:29 jcamins    How did your presentation go?
16:29 jcamins    Hi, cait.
16:27 wizzyrea   but he's so awesome I'm happy to be behind him ;)
16:27 wizzyrea   i almost caught owen there for a while
16:26 munin      wizzyrea: Highest karma: "chris" (187), "gmcharlt" (177), and "owen" (170).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-71), "failed" (-46), and "-" (-30).  You (wizzyrea) are ranked 6 out of 1048.
16:26 wizzyrea   @karma
16:26 munin      wizzyrea: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 114 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 114.
16:26 wizzyrea   @karma wizzyrea
16:26 wizzyrea   jcamins++
16:21 jcamins    I added a title.
16:08 wizzyrea   didn't know what to call it
16:08 wizzyrea   you may want to put a new title on it :P
16:06 jcamins    wizzyrea++
16:04 jcamins    Added.
16:02 jcamins    You're welcome.
16:01 Barrc      OK, I think I should be fine from here.....I may write something up too, if I sort it out! Thanks
16:01 wizzyrea   forced the kiddo back into bed around 3am after a snack.
16:01 jcamins    And that should be surrounded by the document.ready thing.
16:01 wizzyrea   (10ish or something NZ time)
16:01 jcamins    Barrc: to clarify, you should adjust that to match your new index.
16:01 wizzyrea   was up until like 3am last night
16:00 wizzyrea   oi, no
16:00 jcamins    Recovered from your jetlag?
15:59 jcamins    Oh, by the way, welcome back.
15:59 jcamins    wizzyrea: :)
15:59 wizzyrea   hm. perhaps a bit too much time spent with my 2 year old
15:59 jcamins    $("select[name='idx']").append("<option value='adate'>Auction date</option><option value='Host-item,wrdl'>Journal title</option>");
15:58 * wizzyrea runs around in a circle squealing "I'M HELPING!!!"
15:58 wizzyrea   ^.^ yay!
15:58 jcamins    Yes.
15:58 * wizzyrea notes that we should add it to the cookbook
15:58 jcamins    wizzyrea: yeah.
15:57 wizzyrea   jcamins: did you do that with jquery?
15:57 jcamins    Barrc: no, I don't think there is any documentation. :(
15:57 jcamins    There's a way to add that to the dropdown in the searches with jQuery, but it's not on the wiki.
15:57 Barrc      Great....are there any docuements on this? The website has a brief mention of these files but no examples, it mentions a diagram but it isn't shown anywhere
15:56 jcamins    To search with that, use con:whatever
15:55 jcamins    Then rebuild zebra.
15:55 jcamins    Then add to ccl.properties "Contents 1=7095" (or whatever number you chose) and "con Contents"
15:55 Barrc      OK, with you so far....
15:54 jcamins    Then change the "melm 505 Notes:w,Notes:p" to "melm 505 contents:w,contents:p" (or you may need to add that line)
15:53 jcamins    So you'd add something like (from memory, so you'll want to check the files to make sure I have the syntax right) "att 7095 contents" to bib1.att
15:52 jcamins    ;)
15:52 jcamins    If you move the 500, you'll still end up with all the notes in the same index.
15:51 jcamins    Okay, you'll want to move the 505.
15:51 Barrc      I was heading in the right direction myself, it seems. Althought I couldn't quite figure out some of those files. I need to move the contents field to its own index and out of any other index. So 500, and/or 505
15:50 jcamins    I can give you more precise instructions if you need, if you tell me which field you want to move to a separate index, and so forth.
15:48 jcamins    Then reindex with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r
15:48 jcamins    The short version is, you're going to need to edit etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/bib1.att to add a new index, edit etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs to change what index the field you're interested in is getting indexed in, and edit etc/zebradb/properties.ccl to add a search prefix.
15:46 Barrc      Please!
15:46 jcamins    And now I'll explain how to do it.
15:46 Barrc      Oh! Thanks.......
15:46 jcamins    The next bit was to explain the limitations.
15:46 jcamins    The "yes" was to say "it's possible."
15:45 jcamins    Fortunately I hadn't typed my response yet.
15:45 Barrc      jcamins: I got booted from the server just then, so I missed any responses......
15:45 jcamins    The field will still show up in keyword searches, but you can create a separate index so that people can use prefixes.
15:44 jcamins    Barrc: yes.
15:42 jcamins    Errr... nice chatting?
15:40 Barrc      Anyone know how to create a new search index in 3.006? I need to remove a certain tag from the general search and create a new index on its own.....is this possible?
15:34 gmcharlt   largish operations, like staging and importing a big batch
15:34 gmcharlt   session management, for one
15:33 chris_n    gmcharlt: any suggestions on particular areas to test?
15:33 chris_n    that works nicely
15:30 chris_n    trying out a fresh installation
15:20 chris_n    installation from deb packages might be a bit rough for the uninitiated
15:20 gmcharlt   cool
15:20 chris_n    gmcharlt: a few quick checks seem to indicate that mariadb appears, indeed, a drop-in replacement
15:19 chris_n    check-in/check-out works
15:17 chris_n    zebra reindexed ok
15:10 jcamins    Ick.
15:10 jcamins    LC's catalog is down?
15:09 chris_n    reindex, even
15:09 * chris_n  starts with a zebra rinindex
15:08 chris_n    hi wizzyrea!
15:08 wizzyrea   mornin brendan
15:08 chris_n    heya brendan
15:08 brendan    morning all
15:07 CGI297     thanks jcamins; I guess that's why they make VM snapshots. ;) I'll report back what I find
15:06 chris_n    I'm not sure what tests...
15:06 * chris_n  will now runs some tests
15:05 jcamins    Yay!
15:05 chris_n    very nice: after switch to mariadb, all mysql dbs are still intact, accessible, and usable
15:04 jcamins    CGI297: I don't know, sorry.
15:04 jcamins    Or possibly one big patch adding index for all the archival fields.
15:04 CGI297     I know Kyle HAll has posted the steps to upgrade his VM appliance of koha, but there's also this tempting menu option "upgrade Koha" when you ssh in as root - Does anyone know if that is to be trusted?
15:04 jcamins    Well, several patches.
15:04 jcamins    I need to submit a patch.
15:04 jcamins    You're welcome.
15:03 janPasi    works, thanks a lot :)
15:03 janPasi    ok, it completed
15:02 janPasi    maybe i was wrong
15:02 janPasi    i remembered that it used to output dots or something
15:02 jcamins    Well, wait until it has, then. ;)
15:02 jcamins    Oh.
15:02 janPasi    rebuild hasn't completed yet
15:02 jcamins    Try a search.
15:02 jcamins    Good news. :)
15:01 janPasi    rebuild_zebra.pl says nothing
15:01 janPasi    hmm... strange
15:00 janPasi    ok, let's see if that worked
14:59 jcamins    Yes, that would make sense.
14:59 janPasi    but=put
14:59 janPasi    should i maybe but 561$a because that's the subfield we need?
14:58 janPasi    ah, ok :D
14:58 jcamins    Then you need to rebuild_zebra.pl -r -b
14:58 jcamins    My IRC client uses the tab key for autocomplete. :)
14:58 jcamins    Hit the tab key.
14:58 janPasi    what's [tab] in that?
14:57 jcamins    Without any quotes.
14:57 jcamins    After line 154 in etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs add "melm 561[tab]Note:w,Note:p
14:54 janPasi    yeah, i figured it was rethorical
14:54 jcamins    (rhetorical question)
14:53 jcamins    Hm. Why are mine not searchable anymore?
14:52 janPasi    cool :D
14:52 jcamins    One moment and I'll give you the exact instructions.
14:51 jcamins    A question I can answer. :)
14:51 jcamins    janPasi: yay!
14:51 janPasi    how can i make 561a searchable?
14:51 janPasi    ok, i'll have to ask how my collagues feel about that
14:50 jcamins    As I said, terrible solution, but if this is really important, that might be an option.
14:49 jcamins    janPasi: this is a terrible solution, but the only thing I can think of if you need this *now* would be to put a subfield 5 at the beginning of each 561, and try and use JavaScript to hide that. Like this: 561  ##$5gmc$aKulttuuriosuuskunta Uulu - Soitinkokoelma.
14:49 janPasi    jcamins: ok, we'll just have to live with it then
14:45 jcamins    janPasi: I don't think there would be any way to hide that with JavaScript, unfortunately.
14:44 janPasi    the last line (that says "Kulttuuriosuuskunta Uulu - Soitinkokoelma.") is 561a
14:44 janPasi    here's an example of how 561a is used: http://koha.kepa.fi/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=5002
14:42 Sussan     ok thanks sorry before i couldnt get your point :)
14:42 jcamins    Sussan: yes, I know. But whenever I want to enter something other than English, I just switch keyboards. I have never used a virtual keyboard.
14:41 Sussan     in search , adsearch can i embedd virtual keyboard option
14:41 Sussan     jcammins i am talking about koha
14:41 jcamins    Just in Windows.
14:41 Sussan     How you switch can you tell me.
14:40 jcamins    I just switch my keyboard when I want to use a different script.
14:40 jcamins    Sussan: no, sorry.
14:40 jcamins    But I don't think 561 is usually used as a standard.
14:40 Sussan     Jcamins do you have any idea regarding using virtual keyboard enabling
14:39 jcamins    If you use a standard formatting for 561 fields (for example, "Ownership inscription:...") you might be able to have JavaScript hide it.
14:38 janPasi    jcamins: ok, thanks anyway
14:38 Sussan     in search ,advance search  opac site
14:38 jcamins    janPasi: I don't know how to do it without disabling the view on the intranet, too.
14:37 Sussan     any one used virtual keyboard
14:37 Sussan     hello
14:36 jcamins    Yeah, I know. Right now I'm trying to think of a way to deal with this.
14:36 janPasi    jcamins: I think it would still need to be in intranet view
14:35 jcamins    But that would also disable it in the intranet view.
14:35 jcamins    janPasi: you could disable it by modifying C4/Biblio.pm.
14:35 * jcamins  is still looking to figure out what's going on...
14:34 janPasi    so which script is that?
14:34 janPasi    err...?
14:34 jcamins    janPasi: one moment, I'm trying to see if I can figure out how to do this.
14:34 CGI314     i am just suggesting you if you dnt know answers then no need to misguide people i think so it was chris
14:33 CGI314     i am in right channel Jcammins koha irc
14:33 jcamins    CGI314: I think you are in the wrong channel.
14:33 jcamins    It's in C4::Biblio.
14:33 CGI314     SO stop misguiding people if you dnt know exact solution
14:33 jcamins    Oh, hm.
14:32 CGI314     my company fired me because of this stupid community only 1 minute problem
14:32 jcamins    It's in...
14:32 jcamins    janPasi: actually, you need to modify the Perl script.
14:32 CGI314     basically simple problem was to disable selinux and no one dnt tell me this easy thing
14:32 jcamins    Ooh, you understood anyway. Cool!
14:32 janPasi    jcamins: from the OPAC's "Descriptions" tab
14:31 owen       janPasi: There's probably a place which loops over the 56* tags or 5** tags
14:31 CGI314     i lost my job because of this stupidity
14:31 jcamins    (one moment, and I'll clarify my question... that was a very bad question)
14:31 CGI314     i spent whole day again at least i got solution by myself so plz stop misguiding people if you dont know
14:31 jcamins_a  janPasi: where are you trying to hide it from?
14:30 janPasi    Well I tried looking into MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl, but I can't see 561 there
14:30 CGI314     one guy just said that i have module problem reinstall it
14:30 CGI314     few days back i came online and i said i have error SELinux preventing me but no one answer me
14:30 owen       CGI314: please leave
14:29 owen       janPasi: You'll have to edit the xsl file I'm afraid
14:29 CGI314     Hello the most cramp stupid community which just love to chat with girls and give bulshit support
14:29 janPasi    (I'm using XSLT)
14:28 janPasi    So how can I hide it from the standard display?
14:28 owen       janPasi: Whether you're jusing the normal or XSLT display, the fields which are displayed are hard-coded
14:28 janPasi    3.00.05.003
14:28 owen       janPasi: That might work for the MARC view, but not the standard display
14:27 wizzyrea   Which version?
14:27 janPasi    I'm trying to hide 561a from OPAC, but it doesn't seem to work
14:27 janPasi    anyone know what's wrong with "hidden" values in framework editor?
14:27 owen       Hi janPasi
14:26 janPasi    Hi #koha
14:22 wizzyrea   blinked out of existence there for a minute
14:21 wizzyrea   sorry, got trapped in a time vortex.
14:19 * wizzyrea disappears into a puff of smo...
14:19 wizzyrea   ...
14:13 gmcharlt   owen: I wonder if that will actually help ;)
14:12 owen       wizzyrea: You're confused because last week it was tomorrow, and this week it's yesterday
14:01 * wizzyrea is still confused about what day it is
14:00 wizzyrea   of course, I had two november 2's.
14:00 wizzyrea   good lord, y'all were busy while I was on the plane
14:00 * wizzyrea jerks awake
13:56 * owen     waves some coffee in front of wizzyrea
13:50 owen       Hi wizzyrea
13:47 wizzyrea   *yawn* good morning :)
13:36 chris_n    upon further consideration /me agrees
13:31 gmcharlt   I do think that there is a bit of FUD about the pricing changes for MySQL support from Oracle, though, that needs to be kept in perspective
13:30 gmcharlt   chris_n++
13:25 * chris_n  is setting up mariadb atm :-)
13:25 chris_n    gmcharlt must be reading my mind
12:51 jcamins_a  Never mind.
12:51 jcamins_a  Wait, I can use a report.
12:51 jcamins_a  Is there any way to search for all records that have data in a certain field?
12:37 gmcharlt   Drizzle isn't a drop-in replacement, though
12:37 braedon|h  so they havn't kept anything particuarly important back?
12:37 gmcharlt   Drizzle being another alternative
12:37 braedon|h  mm, ok
12:37 gmcharlt   MariaDB being the primary one meant as a drop-in replacement
12:36 gmcharlt   braedon|h: there are already forks
12:36 braedon|h  is a fork possible with MySQL as in with OOo?
12:36 gmcharlt   Oracle can't touch current implementations and packages
12:36 gmcharlt   but InnoDB is (dual-) licensed under the GPL
12:35 gmcharlt   well, if they start mangling tarballs of past releases, that would be telling
12:35 chris_n    I wonder how long it will remain in the source
12:34 chris_n    gmcharlt: oracle has taken a rather hostile position toward foss of late
12:33 gmcharlt   I checked the source download, and innodb is still there
12:33 gmcharlt   owen: chris_n: it's not good news, but I think it is slightly overblown
12:30 briceSanc  i check that
12:30 briceSanc  ok, thanks owen !
12:30 owen       briceSanc: I don't know either, I've never tried it
12:29 briceSanc  I saw this page, I did not know if it was still relevant
12:29 owen       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS
12:28 briceSanc  ?
12:28 briceSanc  Is there a simple way to use Koha like a tiny CMS in order to add few pages
12:26 briceSanc  hello Koha !
12:19 chris_n    MariaDB uses the XtraDB storage engine which is a drop-in for InnoDB
12:17 chris_n    btw, MariaDB bills as a drop-in for MySQL... http://mariadb.org/
12:16 chris_n    yet another (as if we needed one) reason to refuse to allow this project to become vendor controlled
12:16 chris_n`   oracle--
12:14 owen       mbreeding tweets: "Major change with MySQL: free Classic Edition no longer supports InnoDB, only MyISAM http://www.mysql.com/products/"
11:55 arooj      kindly can anyone tell me about how ican upgrade to 3.2
11:54 arooj      ia m using koha 3
11:54 arooj      hello
09:40 maragar    That Helpped THX!
09:35 maragar_   ok.... I'll try to find where I can change that
09:31 chris      try changing it and see if you get better results
09:31 chris      what z3950 server, and do you have the encoding set right, ie when you set up a z3950 source you can choose marc8 or utf8
09:26 maragar    I can change em manualy ok, but that is a tidious job.... any ideas?
09:26 maragar    when I acquire mark record from a z39.50 source all I get is �a for ä and �o for ö
09:22 maragar    anyone around who could answer a question about ä and ö???
09:22 maragar    hello
07:51 cait       bye all!
07:51 cait       but have to go now - finished or not
07:50 cait       could have been worse
07:50 cait       lost only one slide
07:50 cait       yeah
07:50 ivanc      cait resolved?
07:37 Oak        :)
07:37 cait       hi ivanc
07:37 ivanc      Oak: right :)
07:36 ivanc      hi cait
07:36 Oak        you should be crashing Impress not powerpoint...
07:31 cait       oh no - powerpoint crashed :(
07:26 ivanc      good morning #koha
07:17 * chris    will stop apache until i can figure out what
07:17 chris      hmm someone/something is pounding the bugs machine
07:05 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/signoffs' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=414b2ace4fa5804d27e927b9b573dcb973761c87> / bug 5149: follow-up - remove extraneous character in link <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b96617dea8fcd35d4f4f2f19860a2b7f14489e97> / bug 5149 fix broken link to noItemTypeImages preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh
06:55 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5363 - Removing unused module (C4::Cache::FastMemcached) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c836b63a7d5481f62b7c0044722b3c4bc37e0708>
06:54 chris      night brendan
06:54 cait       good night brendan
06:53 brendan    night all
06:53 cait       :)
06:51 chris      :)
06:51 wizzyrea_  :) yay home!
06:50 robin      OK about 5 of 20 minutes of talk sketched out. Home time.
06:48 wizzyrea_  I have a picture of magnus and thatcher where they look like twins
06:47 wizzyrea_  awww that's a good one
06:47 chris      wizzyrea_: http://www.flickr.com/photos/68583087@N00/5141687258/in/set-72157625300811656/
06:42 chris      right
06:40 robin      So fairly light on details, and only a few minutes long.
06:40 robin      Quite well, it was to the people that didn't really know what it was.
06:39 chris      robin: oh cool, howd that go?
06:39 wizzyrea_  but... I intend to mail them!
06:38 wizzyrea_  I had a last minute airplane paranoia that prevented me from bringing the things I intended (they were liquid)
06:38 robin      Don gave a good little talk about KohaCon at Pizza Thursday talks today.
06:38 cait       I had no better idea for a present, but at least chocolate can be eaten and ends not up dusty in a corner somewhere
06:36 chris      theres only the swiss stuff left
06:36 cait       but glad you like it :)
06:36 cait       chris: you don't have to report ;)
06:31 robin      I have about two weeks for mine, so it's not critical, but if I don't start it now, I'll find myself working on it on a plane, and that won't end well.
06:30 chris      kahu and I ate some more of your chocolate today cait
06:29 cait       :(
06:29 cait       mine must be finished in an hour
06:29 cait       sounds like a good idea
06:29 chris      :)
06:28 robin      Maybe I'll stop the migration stuff I'm doing and do that for half an hour, then go home.
06:28 robin      oh crap, I was going to start working on a presentation this evening.
06:27 cait       hmpf.
06:27 cait       can someone tell me why I redo my slides everytime I have a presentation?
06:27 cait       perhaps you should go home too :)
06:25 chris      :)
06:22 robin      Of course, it is quiet right now, I'm the only one still here :)
06:20 robin      wizzyrea_: �hola!
06:20 wizzyrea_  hey robin :)
06:20 wizzyrea_  lol osnap
06:20 chris      Good point
06:19 robin      chris: that's because you weren't here today
06:19 chris      Yeah my office feels quiet
06:18 wizzyrea_  kansas feels lonely now, it's odd.
06:18 chris      I think magnus, slef and lee are the last ones
06:16 chris      Cool
06:16 wizzyrea_  we'll see lol
06:16 wizzyrea_  now
06:16 wizzyrea_  and he's asleep
06:16 wizzyrea_  we made him skip his nap, and put him to bed at 8:30ish
06:16 wizzyrea_  he went to bed last night about 11, woke up today at 1:30pm
06:15 wizzyrea_  he's doing ok I think
06:15 chris      How's spud coping?
06:14 chris      Hehe
06:12 wizzyrea_  but....oh well
06:12 wizzyrea_  tomorrow will suck
06:12 wizzyrea_  rules even
06:12 wizzyrea_  yea, i'm not following the "recover from jet lag" fles
06:11 chris      You are up late/early
05:58 wizzyrea_  hehe
05:57 brendan    it seems that lots have returned without luggage
05:57 wizzyrea_  yup, ddn't lose a thing
05:57 brendan    heh - do you have your luggage?
05:57 wizzyrea_  stupid jet lag
05:57 wizzyrea_  lol
05:57 wizzyrea_  very late tho
05:57 wizzyrea_  yea, safe and sound :)
05:57 brendan    you home?
05:57 brendan    heya wizzyrea_
04:34 brendan    heya wasabi
04:04 * wasabi   waves
04:04 magnus     oh well i better go make the best of my last couple of hours in auckland - talk to y'all again in a few days!
03:52 magnus     woohoo ;-)
03:51 cait       now my apartment is full of wet freshly washed clothes again :)
03:51 cait       got it yesterday evening :)
03:51 magnus     woohoo
03:51 cait       yep
03:50 magnus     got your bag?
03:50 magnus     but you are early, cait!
03:50 magnus     nope, still in auckland ;-)
03:50 cait       or still in nz?
03:50 cait       you are up early too
03:49 cait       hi magnus
03:49 magnus     hiya cait
03:28 brendan    yo
03:28 cait       hi robin and brendan
03:27 brendan    heya
03:24 robin      hiya
03:23 cait       good morning #koha
03:06 magnus     hiya irmaB
01:49 chris_n    I get the same error using the parameters in your query, so I've missed something
01:48 chris_n    but, alas, no still no luck
01:47 chris_n    and so added it using the example in the manual
01:47 chris_n    based on the very little bit of info in the 3.2 manual, I figured I was missing this file: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/xslt/UNIMARCslim2OAIDC.xsl
01:46 chris_n    my log says: File does not exist: /home/cnighs/koha.3.2.test/koha-tmpl/opac
01:46 chris_n    hmm... I must not have something configured correctly
01:45 gmcharlt   http://opac1.koha.librarypolice.com/cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl?verb=GetRecord&identifier=KOHA-OAI-TEST:1&metadataPrefix=oai_dc
01:45 gmcharlt   here's one example
01:45 * chris_n  is no oai expert
01:45 chris_n    from FF, but get an error
01:44 chris_n    I'm trying: opac/oai.pl?verb=GetRecord&identifier=oai:arXiv.org:cs/0112017&metadataPrefix=oai_dc
01:44 chris_n    what's the proper way to call opac/oai.pl?
01:44 gmcharlt   chris_n: what's up?
01:41 * chris_n  would feel equally strange with snow in June/July
01:40 chris_n    lol :)
01:40 robin      well, everyone has returned to their weird places where they have christmas in the cold and night time when it should be day time.
01:37 chris_n    gmcharlt about?
01:13 chris_n    #koha has grown quiet since the end of kohacon