Time  Nick       Message
01:28 russel     is the hackfest still going?
01:30 russel     or has every one gone exploring?  :-)
01:30 wizzyrea   we're still here
01:33 robin_     russel: chris is calling
01:33 russel     ta
01:50 slef       moo from nelson
01:58 wizzyrea   mooo
01:58 chris      hey slef, hows it going?
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02:10 hudsonbot  Yippie, build fixed!
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02:16 hudsonbot  Yippie, build fixed!
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02:18 chris      sweet
02:26 chris_n2   !hudson build Koha_3.2.x now
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02:26 wizzyrea   @later tell darling I'm well on the way to fixing up the manual... it's not done, but the groundwork is laid, notes are kept, and it'll be done this week.
02:26 munin      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
02:27 nengard    wizzyrea++
02:28 nengard    hdl manual links work now - just got your message from 3 hours ago :)
02:30 hdl        oh... Sorry. that was just to report what i found.
02:30 hdl        Thanks nengard and wizzyrea
02:41 hudsonbot  Project Koha_3.2.x build (4): SUCCESS in 15 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha_3.2.x/4/
02:41 hudsonbot  * Robin Sheat: Bug 5322 - Added pwgen dependency
02:41 hudsonbot  * Liz Rea: Adding a simple test for Service.pm
02:41 hudsonbot  * Nicole Engard: create unit test files
02:41 hudsonbot  * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5327: Add basic unit tests to some C4 modules
02:41 hudsonbot  * Magnus Enger: Bug 5327: Add basic unit tests to some C4 modules
02:41 hudsonbot  * Galen Charlton: bug 5146: patron import files require header row
02:41 hudsonbot  * Brian Engard: Create Unit Test for ImportBatch
02:41 hudsonbot  * Daniel Grobani: unit test stub for Z3950.pm
02:41 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5322 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, pwgen not a dependency for the packages
02:41 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
02:42 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5146 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Patron Import Requires Header Row
02:42 bengard    @wunder 19030
02:42 munin      bengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 10.2�C (10:45 PM EDT on October 30, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Steady).
02:42 brendan_l  @wunder 93117
02:42 munin      brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.2�C (7:54 PM PDT on October 30, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Rising).
02:43 magnus     @wunder bodo, norway
02:43 munin      magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0�C (3:50 AM CET on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Steady).
02:43 danielg    @wunder 94114
02:43 munin      danielg: The current temperature in Castro/San Francisco, San Francisco, California is 14.5�C (7:45 PM PDT on October 30, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising).
02:43 nengard    @wunder wellington, new zealand
02:43 munin      nengard: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (2:00 PM NZDT on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady).
03:34 brendan_l  all you hackers getting out of there around 5ish?
03:37 robin_     I think just when people decide to leave
03:41 hdl        anyone know what merge_help branch on git repo is about ?
06:44 wasabi     http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/31/apple_sues_motorola/
06:45 wasabi     yay for apple :/
07:52 chris      hdl: its help files for biblio merging, pushed up for qa
07:52 chris      they should pass and ill merge them in
07:52 chris      and remove the branch
07:53 hdl        sorry ? we'll talk about that tomorrow ?
07:53 hdl        oh yes... I saw that.
07:53 chris      cool
07:54 hdl        I poked at the branch on gitweb ;)
07:54 hdl        thx chris.
07:54 hdl        Thank you for the day.
07:59 chris      no problem
08:02 chris      http://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/5130591005/in/set-72157625236896938/  <-- this photo makes me sad
08:06 cait       me too :(
09:08 ivanc      hi #koha
09:09 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327: Add unit test for ItemType.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cea1ef27208b06286719b6c9b676913ad3456cb7>
09:17 hudsonbot  Starting build 101 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)
09:33 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build (101): SUCCESS in 15 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha_Master/101/
09:33 hudsonbot  Nate Curulla: Bug 5327: Add unit test for ItemType.pm
09:33 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
16:28 brendan    morning all
16:28 brendan    pretty cool I wake up to find that Nate has submitted a patch/unit test
16:47 mib_itlk9  hello
17:21 cait       morning #koha
17:28 brendan    morning cait
17:57 cait       morning brendan
17:57 * cait     is packing
18:20 chris      Morning
18:20 brendan    morning chris
18:26 chris      Hi paul_p, just on the bus on the way in
18:26 paul_p     hi chris.  Skyping with family ;-)
18:27 chris      Gorgeous weather today
18:27 paul_p     3rd day of continued rain in Marseille
18:27 chris      Good day for cable car
18:27 chris      Ahh rain is not fun
18:31 cait       morning chris
18:31 * cait     is packing :(
18:31 chris      Heya cait
18:32 chris      :(
18:32 chris      What time is your flight?
18:33 cait       15:25
18:33 chris      Time for a little bit of shopping first eh?
18:35 cait       yeah and breakfast with paul and henri
18:35 cait       but better not go shopping...
18:35 * cait     is looking at piles of things on her hotel bed
18:35 chris      :)
18:38 larsw      it's fairly cheap to send stuff via snail mail from NZ ;-)
18:39 chris      True :)
18:43 brendan    @wunder 93117
18:43 munin      brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.3�C (11:56 AM PDT on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Falling).
18:44 chris      @wunder wellington nz
18:44 munin      chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady).
18:47 chris      Bbiab
18:49 cait       hmpf!
18:49 cait       ;)
18:49 cait       @wunder Konstanz
18:49 munin      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 10.0�C (8:00 PM CET on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.55 in 1000 hPa (Rising).
18:59 * chris    clocks in from work
19:05 cait       hm
19:05 cait       perhaps... perhaps it will all fit in
19:06 cait       paul_p: still around?
19:09 cait       hm, breakfast time
19:19 chris_n2   @wunder 28334
19:19 munin      chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 24.2�C (3:31 PM EDT on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Steady).
19:38 richard    hi
19:38 chris      hiya richard
19:39 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: remove extraneous semicolon <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=795ebedecd1bd8dc4759f9911d11341313423f29> / Updated links in Main Page Help <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c4f47977697c39d5e11b22e7cc484f8fa94cba3>
19:39 richard    hey chris
19:47 hudsonbot  Starting build 102 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:03 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build (102): SUCCESS in 15 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha_Master/102/
20:03 hudsonbot  * Brian Engard: Updated links in Main Page Help
20:03 hudsonbot  * Galen Charlton: remove extraneous semicolon
20:03 chris      this patch by Doug Kingston looks good, hopefully get QA to check it soon
20:03 chris      how was breakfast cait ?
20:03 cait       it was very yummy
20:04 cait       now the last 2 real koha people are gone :(
20:04 chris      ?
20:04 cait       had breakfast with paul and henri and had to say goodbye to them now too
20:04 chris      ahhh
20:04 cait       is Doug a new committer too?
20:04 chris      he will be
20:05 chris      Nate last night too
20:05 chris      so 4 new ones in the last 4 days
20:07 cait       makes the historian happy ;)
20:08 slef       moo
20:09 cait       hi slef
20:09 cait       how was the ferry?
20:10 slef       cool
20:10 cait       chris: I have a new patch for unit tests ready
20:10 slef       hope it's as good or better going back - was "moderate 33km/h SE" out
20:10 cait       some of them are failing
20:12 cait       chris: want me to send the patch to the list or to you? for sign-off?
20:18 slef       bbl
20:33 chris      List is fine
20:34 cait       ah
20:34 cait       ok, some are failing, not sure, which is for user input or missing module
20:35 cait       just a warning, but want to send them before I leave
20:37 chris      Cool
20:41 wasabi     morning
20:42 wasabi     ... a sizzling power-box last nite, has keep the net down for me
20:42 wasabi     murphy's timing
20:43 cait       morning mason
20:43 wasabi     heya cait , still in wgtn?
20:44 cait       yep, but leaving today
20:44 chris_n    hey wasabi
20:44 chris_n    && cait
20:44 cait       hi chris_n
20:44 * cait     is trying to get everything into her suitcase right now
20:44 cait       what happens if it is too heavy? *worried*
20:44 wasabi     ha, the suitcase game :)
20:44 chris_n    extra $$ iirc
20:44 cait       hmpf
20:45 cait       I hope it will be ok...
20:46 * chris_n  carried on a 45+ kg piece of luggage back in 2000 and was not told not to nor charged a dime
20:46 chris_n    but times have changed
20:46 cait       45kg???
20:47 cait       did you buy stones here?
20:47 cait       gold?
20:48 chris_n    heh... well I had several Toledo swords which I packed together and checked and so had to carry everything else
20:48 wasabi     cait: the suitecase will prolly be fine
20:48 * chris_n  thinks its better to check the swords and carry on the luggage :-P
20:49 cait       chris: patch sent
20:50 chris_n    although 45 kilos of gold would be nice also :)
20:52 wasabi     ok, i need to do this stuff, now my net is back...
20:59 chris      Hi sekjal
20:59 sekjal     morning, chris
20:59 sekjal     I'm on level 3
20:59 chris      Cool did you talk with Donovan?
21:00 brendan    hi sekjal
21:01 sekjal     Christina
21:01 sekjal     hey, brendan
21:02 chris      Sweet
21:11 pauln      hi all, still hackfesting?
21:11 sekjal     pauln: hackfest is officially over, but some of us are still at it
21:12 sekjal     Catalyst has been kind enough to let me use their facilities today
21:12 pauln      Good work - any ideas why I can't get new staff members staff client log on to work
21:13 sekjal     pauln: do they have permissions?
21:13 sekjal     and are they of a patron category that is the 'staff' type?
21:14 pauln      yes - just changed a couple of volunteers from adult to staff and set permissions
21:15 chris      Can they login to the opac?
21:15 pauln      Yes that worked - louise whittam - 200014603
21:16 chris      I'm betting its a permissions thing then, ill see if I can spot it
21:16 cait       pauln: there is one permissionI think that you always need to access the staff cient, I think it was catalog or something like that
21:17 chris      2 secs
21:18 pauln      cait - yes I had missed that one
21:18 wasabi     that one -> 'catalogue  View Catalogue (Librarian Interface)'
21:18 pauln      works now, thanks
21:18 cait       :)
21:19 cait       ok all, have to go now
21:20 cait       @wunder Konstan
21:20 munin      cait: Error: No such location could be found.
21:20 cait       @wunder Konstanz
21:20 munin      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.2�C (10:35 PM CET on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Steady).
21:21 cait       @wunder Wellington
21:21 munin      cait: Error: No such location could be found.
21:21 cait       @wunder wellington nz
21:21 munin      cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on November 01, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady).
21:21 cait       hmpf.
21:21 cait       hope to see you all soon
21:39 hdl        chris: have you investigated in http://search.cpan.org/~lds/Devel-Cycle-1.11/lib/Devel/Cycle.pm
21:39 hdl        ?
21:40 chris      yeah, thats where i started, i think its the best place to look
21:47 dafydd     Think I may have found a bug: when importing a MARC record with a single name
21:47 dafydd     As in, the band "Weezer"
21:50 sekjal     had an idea this morning:  run a script on C4 to find all the 'use C4::' statements in each module, and create a simple file of that info
21:51 sekjal     then pass it through a network diagram mapper so we can visually see which modules are calling which
21:51 sekjal     find loops, redundancies, etc
21:51 chris      that would be perfect
21:51 brendan    yup any diagrams would be really helpful
21:51 sekjal     anyone know a good tool for me to look at first?
21:52 sekjal     would dia or netdraw do the trick?
21:52 robin      sekjal: graphvis for the rendering
21:52 sekjal     robin: cool, will investigate
21:52 robin      just write a script that outputs .dot files that graphvis (graphviz?) can read. It's pretty easy.
21:53 robin      also have a look in debian/list-deps
21:53 robin      it might give you useful ideas
21:54 sekjal     great, thanks!
21:54 robin      (or it might not, I make no promises :)
21:54 sekjal     I'm grateful for a starting place
21:54 sekjal     I know there must be tools; just got to find them
21:54 sekjal     thankfully, I'm a librarian.  I find stuff
22:13 chris      hey wizzyrea_
22:13 wizzyrea_  heya
22:14 * gmcharlt is testing the batch revert patch now, has at least one correction in the works
22:15 chris      thanks for testing
23:03 wizzyrea_  paul_p: re: the patron duplicate, is it supposed to generate a card number for the new patron?
23:04 wizzyrea_  (the first new patron I added had an auto generated card number)
23:04 brendan_l  heya wizzyrea_
23:04 wizzyrea_  hi
23:04 wizzyrea_  (nap time, thought I'd poke at some of biblibre's features)
23:06 wizzyrea_  ooo I think I found a bug.
23:07 jcamins_a  Is anyone else getting messages from four days ago?
23:07 wizzyrea_  hey nengard
23:07 nengard    Hiya
23:08 jcamins    Hello.
23:08 jcamins    Kind of.
23:08 nengard    Sitting on the floor at chris's desk
23:09 wizzyrea_  :)
23:09 nengard    Where are u wizzyrea?
23:09 wizzyrea_  our hotel, it's naptime
23:09 nengard    :)
23:10 sekjal     okay, lunch time!
23:12 brendan_l  have a good lunch everyone
23:12 brendan_l  almost time to hand out candies here
23:14 * jcamins  is being a scrooge and not handing out candy.
23:14 * gmcharlt is eating dinner and is keeping the outside lights off for the moment
23:15 * jcamins  also lives on the second floor with a cat, so tossing candy out the window isn't an option, and going to the door isn't either.
23:18 wizzyrea_  totally loving biblibre's new patron detail
23:18 wizzyrea_  it's hawt
23:19 wizzyrea_  http://borrowers34.git.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=55
23:19 wizzyrea_  test/test
23:20 gmcharlt   looks good
23:21 wizzyrea_  I just added some more data to that record
23:21 wizzyrea_  if you refresh
23:21 wizzyrea_  check the left sidebar: hide/show address
23:21 wizzyrea_  that's neato
23:21 wizzyrea_  nice privacy feature
23:22 gmcharlt   not much of one, though, on that particular page
23:22 wizzyrea_  not on the detail, no
23:22 gmcharlt   the patron address is also right there on the 'base' tab :)
23:22 wizzyrea_  but on the checkout screen it is
23:23 wizzyrea_  and any of the other tabs
23:23 jcamins    I've never used patrons, really, but it looks very nifty.
23:23 jcamins    wizzyrea_: no one worked on the simple cataloging interface, right?
23:24 gmcharlt   jcamins: have you published a branch for it?  if so, where?
23:24 wizzyrea_  idk, that's not the stuff in this install anyway
23:24 jcamins    gmcharlt: yeah, http://github.com/jcamins/koha/tree/simple_cataloging
23:25 jcamins    wizzyrea_: no, I knew that BibLibre had their hands full.
23:25 wizzyrea_  oo, gonna try that purchase suggestion view next
23:26 jcamins    I'm trying to psych myself up to make a bit more progress on it, because if I had something a little more concrete by Tuesday, that would be good.
23:28 jcamins    And by "a little more concrete" I mean "something I could put on a public server without making my entire database effectively world-writeable.
23:29 gmcharlt   jcamins: you're missing a chance for truly global cooperative cataloging ;)
23:29 jcamins    gmcharlt: but I don't need catalog records for medications!
23:30 gmcharlt   jcamins++
23:30 jcamins    Nor virii.
23:30 jcamins    gmcharlt: I take it you finally slogged through my Moby Dick-length commit messages?
23:31 gmcharlt   jcamins: I *like* detailed commit messages, no worries there
23:31 jcamins    I couldn't really have left anything out, because I don't think people will be figuring out what the heck I was doing on my own.
23:31 jcamins    *their own
23:32 * jcamins  will not be speaking intelligibly. ;)
23:37 gmcharlt   jcamins: a minor note about that branch - all new code should 'use warnings;' - thinking of authorities/simple-auth.pl, in particular
23:37 jcamins    I will add that.
23:38 jcamins    simple-auth.pl was written around 2 in the morning.
23:39 gmcharlt   and as you already know, addbiblio-simple.pl needs an auth check
23:39 jcamins    Yeah, I'm reading C4/Auth.pm now.
23:39 jcamins    The problem is that authorization is tied in to Template::Pro.
23:40 jcamins    At least, the way it's usually used is.
23:41 jcamins    Maybe I can use checkauth...
23:43 gmcharlt   right
23:51 jcamins    What does use warnings do?
23:51 jcamins    Or, rather, what should it do?
23:55 gmcharlt   use warnings turns on additional checks on the code by the perl interpreter
23:55 gmcharlt   very useful
23:55 jcamins    But I mean, shouldn't I get some errors?