Time  Nick       Message
01:37 mason      chris: the a/v guy is downstairs at the conf-space, NOW!! :
01:37 mason      :)
01:38 mason      can someone get down there to meet him ?
02:50 jcamins    Early I asked whether it was supposed to be possible to specify multiple keyword mappings with the same name. The answer is yes.
04:28 brendan    evening
05:06 brendan    @games list
05:06 munin      brendan: Error: The "Games" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "list" in it.  Try "list Games" to see the commands in the "Games" plugin.
05:06 brendan    @list Games
05:06 munin      brendan: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
05:13 brendan    @dice
05:13 munin      brendan: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice.
05:13 brendan    @dice 2d6
05:13 munin      brendan: 1 and 2
05:15 wajasu     can the KohaAdminEmailAddress be something like "Librarian <library.mylibrary.org>"  so overdue noticesget to see "Librarian" instead of "root" or "koha"?
13:44 CGI982     If version 3.02 is the latest...does any one know where there are some good download and install instructions I can use?
15:55 bigbrovar  hi guys I deleted all the biblios records on the koha am setting up using this command perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -d -commit 1000 -file /tmp/marcfile.mrc after which I rebuild my index withrebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r but the deleted items still shows on opac when I search?
15:55 bigbrovar  is there a way I can prevent deleted items from showing among opac searches?
16:00 jcamins_a  bigbrovar: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#20
16:00 jcamins_a  Check your KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB variables.
16:01 bigbrovar  I already followed that. and PERL5LIB is exported. the command runs fine without errors
16:01 jcamins_a  Hm.
16:01 bigbrovar  I followed that page while googling
16:02 jcamins_a  Are the records actually in the catalog? I mean, can you view them?
16:02 bigbrovar  nope when I try to click them it gives an error
16:02 jcamins_a  Okay.
16:03 jcamins_a  Oh, are you running the rebuild_zebra command as the right user?
16:03 bigbrovar  but it still shows up when I search
16:03 bigbrovar  yeah I am running as the koha user
16:03 jcamins_a  Try the steps in the first item on that page.
16:04 bigbrovar  perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -v  is suppose to rebuild the index right?
16:04 bigbrovar  ok let me get to that
16:05 jcamins_a  What do you get when you run `echo $KOHA_CONF`
16:06 bigbrovar  '/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml'
16:07 jcamins_a  Okay, that looks fine.
16:10 bigbrovar  tried it and still same problem :(
16:10 jcamins_a  I'm out of ideas.
16:10 jcamins_a  Try again in another hour or two... some NZers might be online. :)
16:10 bigbrovar  thanks anyway u have been helpful
16:11 bigbrovar  sure thanks
16:11 jcamins_a  Unfortunately, I actually have to run... I have a job way out in Queens in an hour. Good luck!
17:17 bigbrovar  can someone help me I am trying to wipe all records items, biblos from my koha what is the best way to do this.
17:17 bigbrovar  I have used
17:17 bigbrovar  'perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -d -file /tmp/lessonlearned.mrc '
17:19 bigbrovar  and also followed instructions here 'http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#5' and it still wont help
17:20 brendan    you could just delete from biblio (and biblioitems) and that should do the trick
17:20 bigbrovar  everytime I search opac and even the staff client the "deleted" records still show up
17:20 brendan    then of course you need to reindex
17:21 bigbrovar  thanks how do I do that. from staff client or commandline
17:21 brendan    in the mysql command
17:21 bigbrovar  that is exactly what I have been looking for
17:21 bigbrovar  hmm
17:22 bigbrovar  am not sure I am that competent with mysql perhaps  who could give me some pointers?
17:26 brendan    delete from biblio;
17:34 bigbrovar  thanks I did that and it ran without errors after which I reindex however I can still see "deleted items" when I search opac
17:36 bigbrovar  brendan: although when I try to view any of the entries it gives an error
17:36 bigbrovar  a 404
17:36 brendan    you can't reindex nothing in there
17:36 brendan    you need to but something in there to reindex
17:36 brendan    s/but/put
17:36 bigbrovar  thanks
17:37 bigbrovar  so if I import a new marc it would replace the deleted entries showing up when I search?
17:37 bigbrovar  after I reindex that is
17:40 brendan    yes
18:00 brendan    sad news -> http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-shark-attack-20101023,0,6482424,full.story
18:00 brendan    I live right in IV (shark attack was north of here) :(
18:00 brendan    sharks--
18:05 bigbrovar  brendan: thankyou so very much, everything is fine now
18:06 brendan    great
19:39 nengard    hello from kohacon10!
19:39 brendan    hello nengard
19:43 sekjal     greetings from KohaCon!
19:43 brendan    heya sekjal
19:44 brendan    luggage arive?
19:44 brendan    heya bengard
19:44 nengard    hi bengard :)
19:44 bengard    hello to you, too
19:44 sekjal     brendan:  yes, I just got a call from the airline; they're delivering it now
19:45 brendan    sweet
19:45 brendan    :)
19:45 bengard    sekjal, do you know when you're supposed to get it?
19:45 sekjal     I've got clothes coming, 72 hrs of unlimited internet, coffee in my system, and got to talk to my wife on Skype this morning.  Things are good
19:45 sekjal     bag should arrive by lunch time
19:45 bengard    that's good
19:46 wizzyrea_  um, hi? *giggle*
19:46 bengard    hello!
19:46 brendan    sad news from our beaches yesterday - someone was attacked by a great white shark and died
19:47 wizzyrea_  i heard about that!
19:47 bengard    yikes
19:47 brendan    yeah pretty crazy :(
19:47 * brendan  has been surfing there before too
19:47 wizzyrea_  well i'm glad it wasn't you
19:48 brendan    me too
19:48 bengard    I'd be afraid to go back to the water!
19:48 wizzyrea_  did they catch the shark?
19:48 * chris_n  waves to all the folks at kohacon10
19:48 brendan    not yet (didn't find the leg either)
19:48 * bengard  waves back
19:48 wizzyrea   hey chris_n
19:48 wizzyrea   !!
19:49 wizzyrea   ew
19:49 brendan    heya chris_n
19:49 chris_n    sounds like things are ramping up over there :)
19:49 wizzyrea   yup, getting ready for rosalie's talk
19:49 brendan    cover it live is showing "This Event is in Standby Mode."
19:50 sekjal     the excitement is building!
19:50 brendan    how many peeps would you guess?
19:50 wizzyrea   50ish atm
19:50 wizzyrea   mayb emore
19:51 brendan    sweet
19:52 brendan    @seen Nate
19:52 munin      brendan: Nate was last seen in #koha 2 days, 0 hours, 4 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <Nate> When r you planning to head over there?
19:52 wizzyrea   he's here
19:53 nengard    brendan, chris did that
19:53 brendan    cover it live - seems to be up and running now
19:53 nengard    he'll turn it on when we're ready to start
19:53 nengard    oh ok
19:53 sekjal     I think Nate's getting his internet hookup
19:54 * brendan  wishes there was video feed too
19:54 wizzyrea   :/ yea that would be nice
19:54 hdl        hi brendan
19:54 sekjal     I could try to set up my phone as an IP web cam...
19:54 brendan    hi hdl :)
19:55 nengard    brendan i see a video camera
19:55 nengard    just don't think it's going to be fed live ... but I could be wrong
19:55 brendan    I think that's for recording - not live
19:55 nengard    originally we didn't have wifi lined up
19:55 wizzyrea   me too, I think they imight be digitizing it later tho
20:01 brendan    @wunder 93117
20:01 munin      brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.0�C (1:13 PM PDT on October 24, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Falling).
20:01 brendan    @wunder wellington, nz
20:01 munin      brendan: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on October 25, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
20:02 nengard    "mostly windy" -- that's what it's been the entire time :)
20:03 chris      yo yo yo
20:03 chris      its not even windy yet
20:04 chris      my fence hasnt even blown over this year
20:04 bengard    "mostly windy" and "slightly sunny"
20:04 magnus     kohacon10, yay!
20:05 wizzyrea   ^.^
20:08 chris      man rosalie rules!
20:08 chris      she is just talking about the prehistory of Koha
20:08 bengard    also, the prehistory of computers ;)
20:08 chris      :)
20:21 slef       hi #koha
20:21 brendan    heya slef
20:21 slef       I finally figured out cafenet.... little bit awkd
20:22 hdl        finally we got the explanation of C4 !!!!!
20:22 wizzyrea   I KNOW!
20:22 wizzyrea   i'm so excited
20:22 slef       wizzyrea: where are you?
20:22 wizzyrea   next to nengard at the table on the right
20:22 sekjal     C4: the explosive heart of Koha
20:23 slef       wizzyrea: 1mo, let me see
20:23 nengard    slef where are you?
20:23 slef       row 4 far right
20:23 wizzyrea   I think I see the back of your head
20:23 slef       I've hung my coat on mason's chair in front
20:23 wizzyrea   I'm right behind u
20:23 slef       ok, now that's done
20:24 wizzyrea   hehe
20:24 nengard    slef that was me waving - wizzyrea is 2 seats to the right of me
20:24 slef       yeah, saw both
20:24 wizzyrea   I think we both waved :)
20:24 slef       I didn't wave back as it would distract the audience
20:26 slef       so can someone with a real pc link to the irclog from coveritlive so people can get real live commentary or are we using another channel?
20:26 wizzyrea   I think I did
20:26 wizzyrea   earlier
20:26 slef       oh ok
20:26 cait       hi #koha ;)
20:26 slef       I'm limited on s60 here
20:27 chris      yep. wizzyrea did a link
20:27 slef       Rosalie just doubled the cost of koha for her libraries!
20:27 chris      lol
20:27 nengard    hehe
20:27 slef       nz$1.98/day!
20:28 slef       ok, anyone  remember how to split screen in two left-right?
20:28 slef       yay! first mention of cooperative development!
20:30 slef       aha, c-A |
20:40 slef       Windows disrupting #kohacon10 - who'd'a thunk it?
20:40 chris      bad vista
20:40 chris      theres a sticker on the reg desk for that
20:41 * cait     is glad she brought her linux laptop...
20:41 slef       don't speak too soon cait !
20:45 wizzyrea   ooh, balloon festivals.
20:46 chris      yeah they have a big one
20:46 chris      bonjour paul_p
20:46 paul_p     :D
20:47 slef       where do they launch baloons from?
20:47 paul_p     chris : "you know that you're a geek when you chat with someone that is less than 1meter far" :D
20:47 brendan    heya paul_p
20:47 chris      theres a bit area in the wairarapa, which is nice and flat
20:47 chris      bit=big
20:48 wizzyrea   the spud LOVES hot air balloons
20:48 cait       paul_p++ :)
20:48 wizzyrea   like, a lot.
20:48 chris      next time wizzyrea :-)
20:48 slef       they launch from hills near me
20:48 wizzyrea   :D
20:48 chris      kohacon11 at slef's house!
20:49 cait       good idea :)
20:49 slef       need a host library
20:49 paul_p     europeForKohaCon11++
20:49 paul_p     UK or Norway, or Germany !
20:50 * cait     hides
20:50 slef       quick, get chris's laptop!
20:50 wizzyrea   lol
20:51 wizzyrea   no touching the host's laptop!
21:07 sekjal     brendan: got stickers for you and Nate
21:17 slef       aww, lee has a video challenge too... yay chris and russ overcoming it!
21:18 chilts     heh, nice photo chris :-p
21:20 bengard    the video just mentioned my wife!
21:20 wizzyrea   it's because she's awesome
21:20 nengard    paul_p - I vote for UK
21:20 bengard    preaching to the choir, wizzyrea
21:20 paul_p     bengard, is in love :D :D
21:21 bengard    ;)
21:29 nengard    bugs.koha-community.org not loading for me ... anyone else having this problem?
21:29 nengard    was gonna look up the diacrtics but that Lee's librarian colleague mentioned in the video
21:30 wizzyrea   yea, it's not loading :/
21:30 * nengard  wasn't paying attention to irc - looks like you all get to see how sweet my hubby is :)
21:30 bengard    :p
21:31 sekjal     bugs.k-c works for me
21:31 wizzyrea   nengard: it works with opendns DNS servers
21:31 wizzyrea   208.67.222.222
21:31 wizzyrea   so something about the DNS
21:31 slef       cafenet dns doesn't like software.coop either
21:32 slef       I had to login by ip :-/
21:32 sekjal     I believe the bug mentioned in the video has to do with the ICU chains for Zebra
21:32 wizzyrea   yikes
21:33 chilts     slef: I managed to get software.coop fine
21:33 slef       nz isps seem really poor + dear = lack of competition effect?
21:33 cait       it works in our catalog
21:33 cait       we ignore the diacritics for search
21:33 nengard    http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 -- diacritics bug to fix during hackfest :) http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629
21:33 munin      04Bug 2629: major, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Diacritics not being ignored when searching
21:33 munin      04Bug 2629: major, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Diacritics not being ignored when searching
21:33 nengard    oops - pasted twice
21:33 cait       using icu chains, librarian is happy with it
21:33 slef       cait: your libs would riot else
21:33 wizzyrea   ^^
21:33 slef       cait: oh wait, you're no french
21:33 cait       slef: the problem appears with french, German umlauts are fine
21:34 cait       people know how to write things, no guessing there
21:35 cait       how to write the german words
21:38 slef       yay a library flaming the lack of merging!
21:51 * slef     tries to find something in the coop's bug tracker without his usual tools
22:00 slef       hi darling
22:00 darling    hi
22:00 paul_p     hi darling (or is it slef exclusive darling ? ;-) )
22:01 darling    just trying to experience kohacon10 on all inputs
22:01 darling    hi paul_p
22:01 paul_p     speaks + twitter + irc => too many channels for me !
22:01 wizzyrea   the kete christchurch was so beneficial I think, especially since stuff got destroyed
22:02 wizzyrea   you can really get the before -> after
22:02 wizzyrea   I realllllyyy want to do this in kansas, for statewide :P
22:03 wizzyrea   not sure how to motivate *kansans* to contribute their collections, though. :/
22:03 wizzyrea   it's probably all in the selling
22:04 slef       there's no place like kete?
22:04 slef       there's no place like kete?
22:04 slef       there's no place like kete?
22:04 wizzyrea   careful, you might be transported to Levin
22:05 wizzyrea   :)
22:05 cait       :)
22:05 slef       wizzyrea: did you leg it at coffee?
22:05 slef       you were gone when I got there I think
22:05 wizzyrea   oh bother, I saw you but I was deep in discussion with darling
22:06 slef       wizzyrea: some of have alreday visited lwvin
22:06 slef       a spot of b+e at the library
22:07 slef       and cased foxton lib
22:07 wizzyrea   :) on the #ktrip?
22:07 slef       aye
22:07 wizzyrea   I can't wait to visit
22:07 darling    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/canterbury-earthquake/earthquake-map/
22:07 darling    ^ another chch earthquake user submitted thing
22:08 * robin_   builds 3.2 debian packages
22:08 wizzyrea   oo, that's neat too
22:08 wizzyrea   google maps mashups are always so col
22:08 wizzyrea   cool*
22:09 darling    yeah, maps are just fun
22:10 slef       openstreetmap!
22:10 darling    I should look more at that
22:11 slef       I think there is an osm layer for googlemaps if you want a quick fix
22:11 slef       to avoid having to pay for copyright licensing for commercial use
22:11 wizzyrea   I tried to use that on my phone w/ gps, and there were no maps for wellington (though, I spent max 30 mins on it, and probably did it wrong)
22:12 slef       although at the mo tons of companies are breaking copyright law with maps
22:12 darling    there was some discussion on a local mailing list re nz maps -- I think they do exist but I ferget exactly
22:12 slef       I wonder if they will ever start hunting + fining?
22:12 wizzyrea   robin++ #for deb packages
22:13 robin_     darling, people don
22:13 robin_     grr
22:13 darling    ?
22:13 darling    don's here
22:13 robin_     people don't put a lot into OSM here just yet, as we are waiting for people to convert the LINZ maps.
22:14 robin_     (not used to small keyboard)
22:14 darling    heh, me too
22:14 robin_     LINZ data is free, it just needs converting.
22:14 robin_     it's what I use in my GPS, as it's updated weekly.
22:15 wizzyrea   oo, that's handy to know. The OSM maps had the major roads, but literally nothing for wellington when I was looking on my phone
22:16 darling    http://www.linz.govt.nz/
22:17 wizzyrea   oo ty
22:17 robin_     If you have a Garmin GPS, this is the most up to date available: http://nzopengps.org/
22:17 wizzyrea   my brother works at garmin
22:17 wizzyrea   and I do in fact have a garmin, but I left it at home :/
22:17 wizzyrea   to buy the maps from them is more than the cost of the GPS
22:17 wizzyrea   :((
22:18 robin_     ah, pity :) these maps even have cycle tracks and so on in them, and it's all crowdsourced.
22:18 robin_     Yeah
22:18 slef       kete integrates koha with opensearch
22:18 robin_     I fall back to gmaps/osm when overseas.
22:19 robin_     (or when I don't have my GPS, which is most of the time really)
22:19 slef       anyone here in #koha not at #kohacon10?
22:19 robin_     slef, timezones mean there won't be many
22:19 slef       robin_: yeah just wondering whether to tweet or irc the talks
22:19 robin_     welcome to our usual day :)
22:19 robin_     slef: neither, you should use identi.ca :)
22:20 wizzyrea   oo, that's probably preaching to the choir :)
22:22 robin_     Koha version: 	3.02.00.004 <-- packaged successfully :)
22:22 * wizzyrea cheers
22:26 nengard    where is the katipo git report mentioned in the talk?
22:27 nengard    repo - not report
22:27 darling    for kete?
22:28 nengard    for the koha/kete integration code
22:28 nengard    that we can backport to koha 3.2
22:28 nengard    if we want :)
22:28 sekjal     it sounds like one of the developments I've been working on to Extend This Search into other systems (mostly proprietary at this point)
22:29 sekjal     want to merge the two tracks into one logical system/method
22:30 slef       robin_: yeah I'm actually denting
22:30 slef       two things that suck: releasing koha major version while our #coops senioor #koha dev is afk
22:31 slef       and companies selling prerelease #koha to libraries
22:32 slef       just to start a riot before the break
22:32 robin_     heh
22:35 * robin_   wonders if there's a Koha history Kete ;)
22:36 * darling  wonders if there's a Koha history cake
22:36 slef       yay map copyright infringement live demo!
22:40 darling    nengard, in case you haven't already found -- http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw
22:40 nengard    thanks darling I did :)
22:41 darling    LUNCH!!
22:41 wizzyrea   woooo!
22:41 wizzyrea   safe to leave toys here? or no?
22:41 wizzyrea   (where toys = laptop etc
22:41 wizzyrea   )
22:41 darling    probly - but can't be certain
22:42 robin_     package deployment can wait until after lunch
23:58 slef       and we're back, listening to a telepresentation from Nigeria