Time Nick Message 23:57 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5303 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED, Overdue notices subject is improperly encoded 23:57 hudsonbot Frédéric Demians: Bug 5303 Overdue notices subject is improperly encoded 23:57 hudsonbot Project Koha build (76): SUCCESS in 7 min 42 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/76/ 23:49 hudsonbot Starting build 76 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:48 munin slef: magnus was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 24 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <magnus> hiya wizzyrea_ 23:48 slef @seen magnus 23:43 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5303 Overdue notices subject is improperly encoded <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a7bb77e4fcd7ad78ef7ba6f984ef69fccd8a163> 23:36 cyrixbmx hmmm I will go sleep then if someone know the response he can to reply me in private :) thanks 23:33 cyrixbmx But since there is double quote in the string, koha can not translate the sentend with : msgstr "les donn�es d'Amazon sur l'interface professionnelle (y compris les critiques et les liens \"Recherche interne\" sur les pages de d�tails de l'ouvrage). Ceci n�cessite une demande de cl� d'acc�s et la saisie de cette m�me cl�." 23:33 cyrixbmx Why in Koha when I have a double quote in my sentence I can not translate de sentence in my file .po? Exemple : in the file fr-CA-pref.po I have the following string : msgid "enhanced-content.pref#AmazonEnabled# data from Amazon on the staff interface (including reviews and \"Search Inside\" links on item detail pages). This requires that you have signed up for and entered an access key." 22:51 jcamins How is my desk a mess again? 22:51 chris it is 22:50 jcamins chris: that sounds like a good place to find food... 22:50 chris nate is wandering around cuba street somehwere :) 22:48 chris im being picked up 12.30, so ill pass 22:48 darling lunch now anybody? 22:47 chris too late :) 22:47 chris if you head out the hostel, turn right, then right 22:47 Nate Off for sustenance 22:47 chris sweet 22:47 Nate Cool I'll make sure im here 22:47 chris by the time clear customs etc 22:46 chris so prolly 4.30ish 22:46 chris they land at 3.10 22:46 Nate What time are you dropping by here? 22:46 Nate Sounds good 22:46 chris ill see you later today anyway im sure 22:46 chris ahh, she is coming in .. rain cheque! 22:45 Nate Great! 22:44 chris ahh, 2 secs lemme check what my wife is up to, if she isnt coming into town i could meet you for lunch 22:44 wizzyrea_ "crazy american tries to eat raw fish from harbor" 22:44 Nate Need to find food soon or I'll be on the news 22:44 chris cool, ill be dropping ian off there later today 22:43 Nate Nomad backpackers 22:43 chris sweet, where you at? 22:43 * gmcharlt pouts 22:43 Nate Yessiree! 22:43 chris Nate: you are in nz already!! 22:42 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED, Amazon book covers do not work with ISBN13 22:42 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Fixing a double count of a developer and adding a new one to the history 22:42 hudsonbot * Robin Sheat: Bug 4305 - prevent errors when handling invalid ISBN13 values 22:42 hudsonbot Project Koha build (75): SUCCESS in 7 min 54 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/75/ 22:34 hudsonbot Starting build 75 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:32 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing a double count of a developer and adding a new one to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1896508f93054115ef65ddcb00a5b233bf9a027f> / Bug 4305 - prevent errors when handling invalid ISBN13 values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e81bc5ce81c594e71379df1168fd99d4062cea4f> 21:52 darling we'll want it to be nice for lunchtimes 21:52 darling yeah, it's been a little nasty past day or so 21:52 chris heh 21:51 wizzyrea_ just in time for us to be inside at kohacon ;) 21:51 darling http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/4263177/Sunny-outlook-for-Labour-weekend 21:27 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Translations 21:27 hudsonbot Project Koha build (74): SUCCESS in 7 min 59 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/74/ 21:26 CGI550 :) 21:26 CGI550 thanks richard 21:23 wizzyrea_ hi there 21:23 magnus hiya wizzyrea_ 21:22 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'translation' of git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha into to-push <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bdd1f81fc119b2ae18b26c60144cb4446af35b96> / Translations <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9aabbee5461bcf0cd03c4968524c7d88f9ae48d> 21:20 richard CGI550 this might help - http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 21:20 hudsonbot Starting build 74 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:20 CGI550 I want to generate a list through a mysql query 21:17 CGI550 could tell me that table Koha database stored the subject of the books entered into the system? 21:16 CGI550 podrian indicarme en que tabla de la base de datos de Koha se almacena los subject de los libros catalogados ? 21:14 CGI550 es decir libros ingresados al sistema 21:13 CGI550 buenas tardes como puedo generar un reporte de subject 21:13 chris you'll grab them 21:12 chris so if you want to pull from the translation branch on workbuffer 21:12 gmcharlt thanks much 21:12 chris norwegian and spanish 21:12 chris gmcharlt: just committed the changes 21:12 chris sekjal needs to show them his presentation 21:12 chris yeah, not III 21:11 magnus hey, they should be using koha... 21:11 magnus yup! 21:10 chris free wifi? 21:10 chris :) 21:10 magnus auckland city library yay! 21:09 chris lemme just quickly check 21:08 gmcharlt chris: any last minute translations? 21:06 chris cait is in sydney 21:01 CGI550 thanks 20:58 brendan try looking there and see if you can't find some information 20:58 brendan CGI550 --> http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 20:45 CGI550 Buenas tardes me pueden indicar como generar un reporte de materias ingresadas al sistema? 20:42 fcapo ok, no problems 20:42 CGI550 Good afternoon I would like to know how to print a list of materials in the system 20:42 chris (like writing my presentation) 20:42 chris as yeah, most of us are busy with last minute things 20:41 chris fcapo: it might be better to mail the list 20:41 rhcl_away It's probably OK to go ahead and ask questions, but responses may be a little slow for a while. 20:41 fcapo oh, good to know... :/ 20:40 rhcl_away Everybody: a lot of the people that could normally help with questions are in New Zealand for the Koha Conference. 20:40 CGI550 Buenas tardes 20:39 fcapo It seems my message_attributes table is empty and EnhancedMessagingPreferences needs it. 20:33 fcapo Hello, I have a problem : in my koha instance, if I activate EnhancedMessagingPreferences and then try to configure a patron category, I get an empty "Default messaging preferences for this patron category" table. 20:19 CGI858 Buenas tardes me gustaria saber como generar un reporte de descriptores tematicos en Koha 20:18 CGI858 Good afternoon I would like to know how to print a list of materials in the system 19:59 slef biab - food time 19:53 CGI818 Buenas tardes me gustaria saber como genero un reporte de las materias o descritores tematicos en el sistema 19:52 CGI818 Good afternoon I would like to know how to print a list of materials in the system 19:49 chris that could be it :) 19:49 slef Maybe it's just that NZ is more euro than US ;-) 19:49 chris i found europe easier to adjust to than the us 19:49 chris yep 19:48 slef yeah fine. oddly, a +12 jump seems easier than a +5 19:48 chris sleep well? 19:47 chris ah yeah there are a couple of decent places out there 19:47 slef I might stroll out towards mt eden then 19:45 chris from what i remember theres not a lot of anything in central auckland 19:43 slef anyone know a good bakery in central auckland? :-) 19:39 richard hi brendan 19:39 brendan heya richard 19:26 richard hi 19:22 CGI748 Good afternoon I would like to know how to print a list of materials in the system 19:22 CGI748 traducción del español al inglés 19:18 CGI748 Buenas tardes me gustaria saber como emito un listado de materias en el sistema 19:17 CGI903 Buenas tardes 19:09 munin brendan: nengard was last seen in #koha 1 day, 23 hours, 19 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <nengard> collum sent a reminder email - let me know if you get it 19:09 brendan @seen nengard 19:09 brendan sekjal has got to be getting close 19:08 munin brendan: sekjal was last seen in #koha 1 day, 0 hours, 9 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <sekjal> ok, time to find my gate. cheers, all! 19:08 brendan @seen sekjal 19:06 schuster yes anyway That wasn't in my mysql book in a nutshell! 19:06 brendan like '' and not like ''; 19:06 schuster Guess I wrote it almost correct anyway! booksellerid like "%PO%" not booksellerid like "%BOND%" 19:05 slef might be a more optimised way of writing it - iDunno 19:05 slef just as you wrote but s/but/and/ and ' instead of " 19:02 schuster any hints? 19:02 schuster sql question - I want to find things that have booksellerid like "%PO%" but not booksellerid like "%BOND%" 19:00 schuster Yep! 18:46 brendan cool hopeing the rangers bet them bums (yanks) 18:43 schuster brendan - when in Texas and the local team is winning EVERYONE is a Rangers fan. It is red and blue day at work tomorrow. 18:32 jcamins Hey, there's a "List of Middle-earth inns" on Wikipedia. 18:31 jcamins Prancing Pony is in Bree. :) 18:31 jcamins Green Dragon, I think. 18:31 brendan prancing pony is there IRC 18:30 brendan heh - yup bywater - that small community meeting place in the shire 18:30 jcamins brendan: you know, I never made the connection to LotR before. 18:20 brendan I should of gone to Kohacon 18:20 brendan :sigh: 18:17 wizzyrea_ lol 18:17 brendan spud with elf ears!!! woohooo! 18:17 brendan I need to sign off soon - I can't handle the suspense of waiting to see your pics 18:16 brendan oh man elf ears 18:15 wizzyrea_ def will do brendan. I'm putting most things on flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/wizzyrea 18:14 wizzyrea_ supposedly they have elf ears in the vans so you can "be the elf you are" 18:14 chris bbiab 18:13 brendan wizzyrea_ let me know when you post pics from your tour :) 18:13 chris this bit gives it away "It had been agreed the ban would be lifted on Monday. Warner Bros had asked to consult about how it would be announced, but had not issued a press release so Actors' Equity lifted the ban yesterday. " 18:12 wizzyrea_ afk a min 18:12 wizzyrea_ stupid americans >.> 18:12 chris imho its Warner brothers being dicks 18:12 wizzyrea_ like, huge 18:12 wizzyrea_ yup, it's a big deal here 18:11 brendan just reading --> http://ur1.ca/254b4 from ranginui tweets 18:11 chris so 9.22am ... lets see how wrong i am 18:11 brendan YAY!!! 18:11 wizzyrea_ says the guy from bywater :) 18:11 brendan lotr++ 18:11 chris im gonna say 2 hours the rain will be gone 18:10 brendan oh man - so jealous 18:10 wizzyrea_ :) 18:10 wizzyrea_ lotr tour 18:10 chris i can see blue to the south 18:10 chris fingers crossed 18:10 chris it might blow itself out by then 18:10 brendan what tour? 18:10 chris ahhh 18:09 wizzyrea_ 1:30 18:09 chris what time does the tour start? 18:08 wizzyrea_ heh yea it is 18:07 chris that high is taunting us 18:07 chris http://www.metservice.com/national/maps-rain-radar/maps/tasman-sea-nz-colour-latest 18:06 wizzyrea_ right* 18:06 wizzyrea_ I'll order that rigt up 18:06 chris wizzyrea_: its a southerly, straight from antartica ... we want it to change to a northerly 18:06 wizzyrea_ hrmph. 18:06 chris we are getting 70kmph gusts 18:06 munin wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 20.7�C (1:17 PM CDT on October 21, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling). 18:05 wizzyrea_ @wunder Lawrence, ks 18:05 brendan not too much better here 18:05 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.6�C (11:15 AM PDT on October 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Steady). 18:05 brendan @wunder 93117 18:05 brendan morning chris 18:05 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 22, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 18:05 chris @wunder wellington nz 18:05 chris gah this weather is disgusting 17:17 brendan schuster you a rangers fan? 16:17 jcamins gmcharlt: I shall have to get a copy then. 16:17 jcamins (the giving up bit... that was about another project) 16:17 gmcharlt jcamins: that's what the Camel book is for 16:17 jcamins Sorry, wrong window. 16:17 jcamins I decided to give up. 16:17 jcamins Is it just me or does the Perl documentation make exactly no allowance for people who don't already know how to do what they want to do? 16:16 jcamins Now I just have to figure out whether someone's hit the "Submit" button or not. 16:14 jcamins Actually, I think I'll make this save MARC records first. 16:14 jcamins gmcharlt: I'll try that. 16:09 schuster Stuck here with the rest of us US unable to leave the country! Now I don't feel so bad! 16:07 * jwagner will hoist a glass for gmcharlt, in the spirit 16:06 gmcharlt schuster: no; I'll be attending the conference is spirit, as it were 16:06 schuster gmcharlt - you going to NZ? 16:05 gmcharlt then Dumper($foo) will print the structure of a variable that is a reference 16:05 gmcharlt jcamins: one trick is to use Data::Dumper; 16:01 jcamins Two hours and I've made no progress. 16:01 jcamins Okay, this can wait until NZ wakes up. 15:40 * jcamins remembers why he hates working with Perl. 15:31 jcamins Does anyone here understand Perl arrays? 15:23 jcamins *thought 15:20 jcamins I think Perl didn't use pointers? 15:10 jcamins How come scalar() is returning an array reference? 15:09 jcamins virtualshelfcontents? 15:04 brendan ah which table are lists stored in? 14:34 jcamins Okay, thanks. 14:33 brendan bottom 14:33 brendan I think usually practice is at the end 14:29 jcamins Do you put subroutine definitions at the top or bottom of a a file? 14:21 jcamins If anyone wants to retrieve the value from GetRecordValue directly, the code for that is $whatever[0][0]->{'subfield'} with $whatever declared as an array. 14:20 jcamins Hm. That didn't work. 14:20 jcamins exit; 14:20 jcamins print @$city[0]->{'subfield'}; 14:20 jcamins my $city = shift @cities; 14:20 jcamins my @cities = GetRecordValue('city', $record, GetFrameworkCode($biblionumber)); 14:12 jcamins I have successfully extracted "New York." 14:10 jcamins It's an array of an array of a hash, and Perl won't let you access it directly. 14:10 jcamins Ah ha. 14:08 jcamins It says it's an array. 14:07 jcamins Okay, Perl is convinced this is not a hash reference. 14:06 braedon|1 alas, my "usefulness" re perl is currently limited to motivational comments 14:02 jcamins The Template Pro agrees with me, however. 14:02 jcamins Unfortunately, apparently Perl disagrees. 14:02 jcamins I think that this is a hash. 14:01 braedon|1 read the code, understand the code, BE the code! 14:01 braedon|1 don't let them lead you astray! 14:01 braedon|1 always trying to bring you down 14:00 braedon|1 thinkers even 14:00 braedon|1 those comments are the negative thinkgers 14:00 braedon|1 positive thinking jcamins - remeber, if you want it hard enough, you can do anything 13:59 jcamins Interesting fact: the limited comments in C4 are often misleading or wrong. 13:58 * jcamins bangs his head on the table 13:57 braedon|1 (so long as you change your mind at the last second, you should be fine) 13:56 * braedon|1 votes for the red wire 13:56 jcamins I think so, yes. 13:55 braedon|1 and if you disconnect the couplings in the wrong order, the device will be triggered? 13:54 jcamins But it seems that C4 is tightly coupled to the template system we use. 13:54 jcamins Yes, I know. 13:51 jwagner jcamins, that's a potentially explosive statement :-) 13:47 * jcamins has decided he doesn't like C4. 13:42 jcamins Except when I try to dereference it, it tells me it's not a hash value. 13:41 jcamins A shame it doesn't appear to do that when I call it. 13:41 jcamins Okay, supposedly GetRecordValue returns an array of hashes. 13:38 jcamins Everything is type '$' 13:38 * jcamins hates Perl variables 13:34 jcamins Okay, so according to ref it's an array of an array of a hash. 13:28 jcamins When I try to dereference the array, I get nothing. 13:28 jcamins I have a keyword mapping 'city'->260a, but when I use GetRecordValue to retrieve it, I get an array reference. 13:27 jcamins brendan: sadly not. 13:27 braedon|1 sometimes takes me upwards of half an hour to sort out exactly what i have planned is actually usable, and what is based on some fantasy version of the assignment - not good when the assignment in question is due in a couple of hours 13:26 brendan sounds like jcamins is talking in his sleep 13:26 jwagner Actually I get some of my best solutions in dreams :-) If I'm struggling with a script or something, I often wake up about 2 AM thinking, oh, THAT'S how to fix it. 13:25 brendan yeah I can't believe $2dollars for a MARC record and that's nonsense this morning ;) 13:25 jcamins Does that make sense? I don't think it does. 13:24 jcamins Why I am I getting an array reference from GetRecordValue? 13:24 braedon|1 spending the entire night planning out intricate details of an assignment, and then waking up to find it is all nonsense is, well, interesting 13:23 braedon|1 i imagine it will only get worse with work projects :P 13:23 * braedon|1 dreams about uni projects and assignments 13:22 jwagner Dunno about sleep talking, but many years back, when I was managing a migration from an old ILS to Unicorn, I was dreaming in MARC record format by the end of the project. I can think of better things to dream about. 13:22 jwagner It's going to be rough. I'm getting handicapped assistance through the various airports, but my arthritic legs aren't going to like that much time in a plane seat. 13:21 braedon|1 and don't sleep talk about marc records on the plane :) 13:20 brendan have a fun trip jwagner!!! hopefully the plane ride treats you ok and you don't have too difficult of time :) 13:12 jcamins Woohoo! I successfully read the list of languages from the database! 13:12 * jwagner is so distracted this morning that I made my second cup of tea with cold water -- guess we're having iced tea.... 13:11 jwagner My passport is about the only thing that IS ready. But I ticked off a lot of errands yesterday. Still a bunch more to go. 13:10 schuster Enjoy! wish there was a last minute decision like that around here, but since my passport has expired I doubt that would work! 13:10 brendan then I said - wow that's extreme and rolled over and kept sleeping 13:10 * jwagner is VERY busy getting things organized to go.... 13:09 jwagner schuster, yes I am, last minute decision as of yesterday. 13:09 brendan I guess I kept talking about MARC records - so much that She had to get up and turn the light on for me to stop talking 13:09 schuster someone is really proud of their work... 13:09 braedon|1 you better be serious brendan 13:09 braedon|1 hahaha 13:09 brendan "How much for a MARC record? 2 dollars!!! that's ridiculous!! They should be free!" 13:09 schuster jwagner is going to NZ? 13:08 brendan So I guess I was talking in my sleep lastnight - I woke up my wife by saying 12:56 jcamins Wow. C4::Languages is impressively confusing. 12:33 jcamins I think maybe I'll move that to later in my to-do list. 12:30 jcamins Hm. First item on my to-do list is figuring out how to duplicate input boxes. 12:26 munin Brendan-O: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 12:26 Brendan-O @wunder -help 12:26 munin Brendan-O: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.5�C (5:36 AM PDT on October 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady). 12:26 Brendan-O @wunder 93117 12:00 jcamins_a Amit++ 12:00 jcamins_a Looks like Amit was pretty busy! 11:59 jcamins_a !!! 11:59 Brendan-O morning jcamins_a 11:59 jcamins_a Morning. 11:46 Brendan-O morning :) 10:05 chris cool, now im going to sleep 10:04 chris oh there it is 10:02 * chris is falling asleep, so ill let you know in the morning when it makes it through the greylisting or whatever has caught it 10:01 chris you sent it to me slef ? 09:41 slef oh oops - from line on that will be wrong, so please let me know here :) 09:41 chris net.nz :) 09:40 slef net or net.nz? 09:39 chris net 09:39 slef catalyst.co.nz? 09:37 slef ;-) 09:37 slef so does this mean I should drop the section of my session on the future of koha-community.org? 09:35 * paul_p happy with the idea to see jwagner, but don't know (or fear to know) where all this ...(silence here) ... will go :\ 09:35 chris kristina at catalyst or chrisc at catalyst 09:34 slef not absolutely final but I would like to get something saved 09:34 slef where should I email my slides? 09:33 chris [off] well when it became clear that we wouldnt be dropping everything to talk to patrick about the foundation, we no longer rated sending management 09:32 slef It's blooming freezing in bucklame president but I think I have figured out the heating. 09:31 slef [off] we wondered at dinner who from ptfs would be coming 09:26 si Calculates the size of a HTTP Request. 09:26 si Copyright 2005-2006 Ookla 09:26 chris but jane wagner is instead 09:25 chris patrick jones is no longer coming 09:25 chris i think maybe very briefly 09:23 paul_p hi chris. I want your opinion about the 2008-2009 history of Koha. do you think I should speak of the events with ptfs/ll ? I plan to do something like : "title => Houston, we have a problem" and explain in a few lines what happends, and why it has slowed the project (lot of time spent instead of happy hacking) 09:21 paul_p and conditionned air is really cold everywhere, so we get hot/cold/hot/cold 09:21 paul_p NZ++ 09:21 chris hehe 09:21 si I can categorically state that it will not be as warm as KL here :-) 09:21 chris hi paul_p 09:20 si splendid 09:20 si heh 09:20 paul_p si, yep, of course ;-) 09:20 paul_p - we could have had a problem with my luggage, it was not supposed to be given to me in KL, but I saw it by chance when passing near the baggage drop ! 09:20 si paul: but you'll be in Wellington next week? 09:19 paul_p - france on strike, missing our AMS<>KL 09:19 * si lived in KL for several years as a boy 09:19 paul_p -hdl tickets cancelled by company 09:19 si woo, cool 09:19 paul_p we are in Kuala Lumpur, after many events ! 09:19 paul_p si, nope. On the way to Auckland. 09:17 si paul: you're on your way to Wellington? 09:16 paul_p yes ! I forgot that : Happy Birthday once again hdl !!! 09:16 * si wanders by 09:15 hdl paul_p: that's just an unexpected Happy Birthday from circomstances ;) 09:15 paul_p chris, about ? 09:14 paul_p hdl should not say "hi from KL", but "Hi from KL business class lounge, where I am on a comfortable chair, could take a shower, while Paul is in economy, on an uncomfortable chair in the airport". But I agree that would be longer :D 09:02 slef oh other thing that was worrying to see: NZ imports the Jeremy Kyle show??? 08:58 chris those are all the free to air ones 08:52 slef chris: yeah, about half of that. 08:46 chris http://www.freeviewnz.tv/whats_on_freeview/tv_guide <-- like that? 08:45 chris ahhh yeah 08:44 slef MSIE inside 08:44 slef I suspect that is because you have to plan your life around its boot time. 08:44 slef It's a Lifestylepanel. 08:43 slef http://www.presidenthotel.co.nz/test/tp.html says different channels to what is on the very slow tv 08:43 chris ahhh, freeview 08:42 slef one two three six prime dw-tv bvn tv5 08:42 slef we seem to have a bizarre mix here 08:41 chris you probably have sky 08:41 chris http://www.skytv.co.nz/tv-guide.aspx 08:41 chris actually if you are in hotels 08:40 chris too 08:40 chris yeah tv3 and c4 must have some rule about that 08:40 slef while talking about retarded rules 08:40 chris heya hdl 08:40 slef chris: http://bleb.org/tv/channel.html?ch=itv1 08:40 hdl hi from Kuala Lumpur 08:39 chris theres bugger all on tonight 08:39 chris yep, its for the 70 year olds who watch lunchtime news :) 08:38 chris who have some retarded rule 08:38 slef oh and Emmerdale after the lunchtime news? really? 08:38 chris tv3.co.nz and c4tv.co.nz 08:38 chris thats missing 2 channels 08:38 slef ta 08:38 chris http://telstraclear.co.nz/residential/inhome/digital-tv/tvg-grid.cfm 08:37 chris hmmm 08:37 slef chris: good NZ tv now guide website? 08:36 chris heh 08:32 slef I will carry on confusing them then :) 08:30 hdl But usually american and foreign folks use henri only ;) 08:30 hdl hd. 08:30 slef hdl: are you hd or just h in speech usually? 08:29 magnus g'night #koha 08:29 slef hi hdl 08:27 slef I'm ignoring my sleep-disrupting medication today. 08:26 paul_p (and I forget the sleeping drugs my doctor gave to me :(((( ) 08:26 paul_p was 11PM in my body when we landed, so ... 08:26 slef aww 08:26 paul_p (could not sleep in the plane, even with an emergency exit seat) 08:25 slef no sleep in flight? 08:25 paul_p and that was 30h ago now... 08:25 slef but my 3g is cheap enough there 08:25 paul_p slef, yep, but I wake up a 6AM 08:25 slef Yeah, LHR has no free either 08:25 paul_p french airport have a 0mn free wifi 08:25 slef erm? no hotel at AMS? 08:24 slef HK seems to have unlimited free wifi. 08:24 paul_p i'm 30hours without sleeping, start to be really tired... 08:24 paul_p take off in 4 hours. 08:24 paul_p free wifi (2 hours) everywhere 08:24 paul_p klia++ 08:24 slef (Clevedon is 7 miles from home. No vineyards) 08:24 paul_p hi magnus & chris & slef 08:23 slef Clevedon wines are pretty hilarious too. 08:23 slef saw a bus going to Torbay on the walk back. That always amuses me. 08:23 slef whirly even 08:22 slef sparkly worly world 08:20 chris sleep well 08:20 chris yeah, its about that time 08:20 magnus chris: it is. and my head is starting to feel weird too, so i'll hit the hay shortly 08:19 magnus hiya paul_p 08:16 chris magnus: yeah its weird eh 08:16 chris its paul ... in malaysia? 08:11 magnus hi chris - we're in the same timezone (as wizzyrea said some days ago) ;-) 08:09 chris heya magnus :) 08:00 wizzyrea_ jo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizzyrea 07:55 magnus jransom: well... it could never be "good", i think, but it was uncomlicated, at least - unlike some, i hear 07:48 jransom did you have a good trip over? 07:48 magnus thanks jransom - it's been great so far 07:47 jransom welcome to NZ 07:47 jransom Magnus - kiaora my friend 07:11 newnick is anybody here 07:11 newnick hello, 07:08 koha_mong hello, 07:00 chris you could stop at the island on the way 07:00 chris http://eastbywest.co.nz/places-to-see/ 06:59 chris http://eastbywest.co.nz/ <-- that one 06:58 chris yep 06:57 wizzyrea_ this ferry? http://bit.ly/adsy7u 06:53 chris yup 06:53 wizzyrea_ it's just a much smaller place :) 06:53 wizzyrea_ the scale messes with me 06:53 wizzyrea_ well, what *appears* to be that distance 06:53 wizzyrea_ in kansas, maps with that distance mean an hour at least :P 06:52 chris hehe 06:52 chris yeah 06:52 wizzyrea_ but it looks like it should be 06:52 wizzyrea_ the scale of the maps is what's getting me... nothing is really that far 06:52 chris train back to wellington 06:52 chris bus to petone station 06:52 chris take the ferry to eastborne 06:51 chris heres a plan 06:51 chris hehe 06:51 wizzyrea_ really, 12 miutes by train? I don't know if I can handle that ;) 06:50 chris which is quite a fun little place to look around too 06:49 chris so you could go to petone 06:49 chris but the hutt line has tons 06:48 chris looks like only 1 train each way on the wairarapa line on sunday 06:47 chris good shops and restaurants 06:47 chris greytown is a neat little town 06:46 chris hmm none of those look that good 06:46 chris yeah, have a play with the journey planner, martinborough has the vineyards 06:45 wizzyrea_ me, not you 06:45 wizzyrea_ ugh. web usage fail. lol 06:44 wizzyrea_ ohhhh journey planner 06:44 chris bad url, but hopefully works 06:44 chris http://www.metlink.org.nz/journeyplanner/plan?JourneyOrigin=wellington&origin_easting=&origin_northing=&origin_type=&JourneyDestination=Martinborough%2C&destination_easting=271504463&destination_northing=599486232&destination_type=locality&departure=departafter&time=Now&date=24-10-2010&modes[]=bus&modes[]=rail&modes[]=ferry&modes[]=cablecar&submit=Go 06:43 wizzyrea_ lol 06:43 wizzyrea_ so that 06:43 wizzyrea_ there you go then 06:43 chris well you gotta go round the harbour to go out to the vinyeards :) 06:42 wizzyrea_ well I'm a little torn between out of town to see the country (isn't there a wine area to the north?) and a train around the harbor 06:41 chris where do you want to go? 06:41 wizzyrea_ woot. Think we'll maybe try to do the train thing then. 06:41 chris yup 06:41 wizzyrea_ do they run trains on sunday? 06:38 wizzyrea_ lol ya 06:37 chris tv is crap tonight eh 06:34 wizzyrea_ mmm ok yea that sounds yummy 06:32 chris Honey Mustard, Ham, Onions, Gherkins, Chicken, Bacon & Smoked Cheddar. 06:32 chris cursed 06:30 wizzyrea_ very original combinations 06:30 wizzyrea_ ! I missed that one 06:29 chris but i do like the one with gherkins on it 06:29 chris we get hell for pizza thursdays, so im kinda over them 06:28 chris :) 06:28 wizzyrea_ ^.^ 06:28 wizzyrea_ not one we'd have had at home 06:28 wizzyrea_ well I should say, we had salmon, spring onion, and cream cheese pizza 06:28 wizzyrea_ yep, we had hell pizza... not very original, but it was really good 06:27 chris did you eat? 06:25 chris yeah, not bad for a night photo from a phone 06:23 wizzyrea_ it's a little blurry but eh 06:18 chris good photo 05:58 wizzyrea_ I was going to show her this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizzyrea/5100808621/ 05:58 wizzyrea_ doh I missed her 05:57 wizzyrea_ jo! hi :D 05:44 jransom hey pianohacker 05:43 jransom Liz baby :) 05:42 wizzyrea_ hey ph :) 05:29 pianohack Hi #koha 05:18 slef ok, off downstairs 05:08 chris Wellington does too 05:06 slef I think I might have mentioned that. 05:06 slef HK airport has free wifi 05:05 slef ok ta 05:03 jransom due in tomorrow at about 2pm ish 05:03 jransom she lost somewhere between hong kong and australia and auckland 05:01 munin slef: cait was last seen in #koha 19 hours, 2 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <cait> the messages look not so nice too and you can't show the date and time at the beginning of a message 05:01 slef @seen cait 04:43 slef paging colo support now :-/ 04:42 chris Stink one 04:42 slef They're not in the file they should be. 04:42 slef I don't have the ssh keys I need. 04:42 chris Ill leave you to it then 04:42 slef I think this is a lost cause 04:42 jransom so wish I was in Auckland already 04:42 chris Ahh :) 04:41 slef hence the 45min deadline ;-) 04:41 slef yes, just spooke with 20mins ago 04:40 chris Lee was going to try to find you 04:40 chris Are you in the president hotel? 04:39 slef ta 04:39 chris If you aren't watching movies unlikely to use all that 04:39 slef yeah, data aloways better than time for ssh 04:38 chris But still probably cheaper than hotel nets 04:38 chris http://www.2degreesmobile.co.nz/broadbandzone-data-packs 04:37 chris Hmm not as goood as I remember 20 nz for 1gb 04:32 chris Lemme find it 04:32 slef as that may still be worthwhile 04:32 slef any idea of price/package name? 04:32 chris Right, as you were :) 04:32 slef chris: yeah, I was wondering about that, but I want this fixed in the next 45m 04:31 chris If you can tether 04:31 chris 2degrees prepay 3g is probably cheaper 04:31 chris Slef can ur phone take a sim? 04:30 wizzyrea_ omg, we're in the same time zone! 04:30 wizzyrea_ hey slef 04:28 slef time to fix that server :-/ 04:28 slef yengh... on expensive hotel internet 04:09 Oak \o 03:24 chris cya later 03:24 pauln cheers chris, catch ya 03:22 pauln nice one 03:19 chris which is cheap wifi 03:19 chris nope but they do www.cafenet.co.nz 03:19 pauln are they the ones doing free wifi in cbd? 03:18 wizzyrea_ !!! that's awesome :D 03:17 chris citylink donated us 3 days of free wifi 03:17 chris there sure is 03:17 pauln is there wifi at kohacon? 03:16 pauln RDA is almost here to replace MARC - don't ask me anything about it but, no me cataloguer 03:16 chris pauln: excellent 03:16 jcamins_a Good night (again), #koha 03:16 jcamins_a Okay, time to hit the hay. 03:16 pauln chris - sweet, all good 03:07 robin heh 03:06 chris agile ... you're doing it wrong! 03:06 chris until they changed vendors 03:06 robin goodness 03:06 chris it lasted 2 years 03:06 chris was supposed to last for 2 months until their vendor gave them their web opac 03:06 chris ran once a night 03:05 chris converted it, stuffed into sybase and searched it with perl 03:05 robin that must have been "fun" 03:05 chris -I 03:05 chris the data came out of their mainframe in EBCIDIC 03:05 chris for wellington city library 03:05 chris the first opac i worked on 03:04 * wizzyrea_ giggles 03:04 chris heh 03:04 robin to aid in standardisation, I'm going to make a commitment to only support MARC in ISO646 and EBCDIC from now on. 03:03 chris that whole marc-8 thing .. whats that about??? :-) 03:03 jcamins_a You'd think the library world could get at least one thing right w/r/t languages. 03:03 robin and standardised. 03:02 robin and be replaced by something sane 03:02 robin MARC needs to go away 03:02 jcamins_a I just find the whole thing so baffling. 03:02 chris and often records lie 03:02 chris so have mixed up records in your db, is messy when using Z3950 03:01 chris and it cant mix and match 03:01 chris basically you have to tell your z3950 client what encoding to expect 03:00 jcamins_a So the Z39.50 server changes it? 03:00 chris might not match 03:00 chris well they often do, but then what their z3950 server hands you 03:00 jcamins_a Ridiculous. 02:59 chris that would be a no 02:58 jcamins_a Do other ILSes not set the LDR/whatever to indicate UTF-8 consistently? 02:58 chris fixed now 02:58 chris we were expecting utf-8 02:58 chris te puna is encoded in marc-8 02:57 chris http://library.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=47391 02:57 chris yep, fixed in the catalogue now 02:57 pauln Chris - te puna link http://nlnzcat.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?PAGE=sbSearch&SEQ=20101021160840&PID=OidXKWLmCUeXK3jLcbXz3UTxAJHM 02:50 wizzyrea_ even though there are other available items 02:49 wizzyrea_ it won't let them renew it, because it wants to give it to the reserve 02:49 wizzyrea_ if that patron tries to renew it, and the reserve hasn't been assigned 02:49 wizzyrea_ 3 are avaliable 02:49 wizzyrea_ and you have 4 items total 02:48 wizzyrea_ so say you have a patron who has an item checked out 02:48 chris ? 02:48 wizzyrea_ hrm, there ought to be a check out override for reserves if there is at least one other item available to fill the hold 02:46 wizzyrea_ oo, pretty OPAC 02:45 chris hows that? 02:45 chris http://library.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=47391 02:45 chris fixinated 02:45 chris not utf-8 02:45 chris te puna is encoded in marc-8 02:45 chris AH HA! 02:42 chris is there a way to search te puna from the web? 02:42 chris yeah it seems to be coming across like that 02:41 pauln the te puna record looks ok to me 02:41 pauln must have, added post-training 02:39 chris you pulled that record in via z3950 eh? 02:33 pauln ok, done the mapping bit 02:32 chris that record looks messed up in te puna 02:30 chris that should fix that 02:30 chris b 02:30 chris 245 02:30 chris subtitle 02:30 chris make one called 02:30 chris then keywords to marc mapping 02:30 robin yeah, it wasn't bad when I was heading in to work. 02:29 chris if you go to admin 02:29 chris oh you can fix that subtitle thing easy 02:29 chris so its not a display thing, it got munged somewhere along the line 02:29 wizzyrea_ today was about perfect (at last earlier when we were out) 02:29 wizzyrea_ very well thanks for asking :) 02:29 robin Not been blown out to sea yet? 02:29 chris pauln: <subfield code="b">an account of the life of P?otatau Te Wherowhero, the first M?aori king /</subfield> 02:29 robin hi wizzyrea_, how's wellington been treating you? 02:29 pauln also - the 245b remainder of title does not show in opac i just noticed 02:27 * chris logs in to check the record in the db 02:27 chris that might be doing it 02:27 chris ah yeah, there is a proxy in front of it 02:27 robin but it claims it's running on IIS, so who knows what crazy it does to things. 02:27 chris nope thats messed up in the db 02:26 robin Content-Type text/html; charset=UTF-8 02:26 chris hmm or maybe not 02:25 chris i just think its not setting hte right header 02:25 pauln look at that, i came here rather than email you direct to leave you alone and you come riding along to save us anyway! 02:25 chris i think i can fix this pretty easily 02:24 pauln better work on that :) 02:24 chris yep 02:24 pauln King P�otatau is what is showing - don't even know how to type o with macron 02:23 chris ahh i think i know the problem 02:23 pauln http://library.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=47391 02:22 chris got a url pauln ? 02:22 pauln thanks masonj - its from a national library marc record so seems a bit odd 02:15 masonj if they dont its a data/encoding issue , not a display issue 02:15 masonj pauln short answer , yes 02:14 pauln hi all, Should macrons display correctly on Maori terms? 02:12 masonj http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/nsa-cartoon-animals-lure-youth-into-the-surveillance-arts/ 02:05 slef bbl 02:05 slef oh well, will check in 10 or so 02:03 * slef really hopes that server is just fscking 02:01 richard lol 02:01 robin see, you can't even spell! 02:01 robin "baches" rather. 02:01 robin richard: you're the ones with your "batches" 02:01 jransom weird ... 02:01 jransom lol 02:01 richard but down their you call luncheon sausgage belgium 02:01 jransom pedestrian crossings (in Levin) 02:01 chris :) 02:01 chris but you guys are weird 02:00 chris you might 02:00 slef back home, the posts are Belisha Beacons 02:00 robin at least, in the Mainland :) 02:00 jransom not! 02:00 robin chris: we do so call them zebra crossings. 01:59 jransom slef: no I didn't know - but good to know :) 01:57 richard actually that was in poort taste, given that a policeman did use it as a target 01:57 chris :) 01:57 chris just dont cross when richard is driving apparently 01:57 chris well we dont call them zebra crossings, thats a pedistrian crossing .. and i have no idea what the post is called 01:56 richard target 01:56 slef what do you call the black/white post with orange ball by the zebra crossing? 01:56 slef finally before I screw the server... 01:55 chris yeah median 01:55 slef no, median bit 01:55 slef awww, not ghost island? 01:55 chris oh pedistrian crossing? 01:54 chris median strip 01:54 slef and jooi what do you call the white ///// area in the middle of the road? 01:54 chris chips works for both hot chips (fries in americanese) and cold chips, crisps 01:54 richard chips are chips :) 01:52 slef are chips here chips or crisps? 01:52 slef not sure if you knew 01:51 slef jransom: airport express bus stop 3 is fine for the hotel 01:50 chris stink ;( 01:50 slef not got all my keys with me. not sure if I can fix it 01:49 slef :-/ 01:49 slef I've an apache server with loads of sockets stuck as syn_recv 01:47 chris ahhh 01:47 slef we were delayed by swerving to avoid a typhoon 01:46 slef magnus landed 2h before us I think 01:46 slef oic 01:39 jransom MJ: Lee is at your hotel too 01:38 jransom auckland library cafe has free wifi 01:32 chris i think he landed aroundish the same time as you 01:32 chris you didnt bump into magnus? 01:29 chris every so often you will spot a cafe with free, but they are not the majority 01:29 chris :) 01:29 slef oi I'm the one on a phone not you 01:28 chris hmm, no idea in bucklame im afraid 01:28 slef hotel wifi not good in the room 01:28 slef where's good for free wifi? 01:28 slef tomi at esquires? 01:28 chris excellent 01:27 slef seen about 5pm tomoz 01:27 chris is it cafenet? :) 01:27 chris yay 01:24 slef in auckland, having lunch at a cafe with wifi