Time  Nick        Message
01:08 cait        hi #kohy
01:08 cait        #koha
02:12 wasabi      [off] lol, chris_n got burned a little on the list :) , but david.hm ended up revealing his true colors
02:12 wasabi      we all learn.... :)
02:13 chris_n     [off] mission accomplished :)
02:14 wasabi      oops, theres more on that thread , i only read the first 3 :/
02:14 chris       Heh
02:14 wasabi      lol
02:27 wasabi      chris_n: i take that back, nice response!
02:27 jcamins_a   chris_n++
02:27 jcamins_a   chris++
02:28 wasabi      sure was a sweet thread...
02:29 chris       chris_n++
02:29 chris       reed++ # hits the nail on the head
02:40 wasabi      jcamins,  nice response too dude!
02:40 jcamins     Thanks.
02:41 jcamins     I've been wanting to send that e-mail for weeks, and this was the first time it seemed like it actually made sense.
02:46 wasabi      a nice historical reminder from chris_n  too...
02:47 wasabi      "This matter has already been decided once. The community has established rules to govern the choosing of a body of representatives . Those rules may be reviewed here: http://koha-community.org/koha-project-organization/horowhenua-library-trust-koha-committee-rules/"
02:49 jcamins     wasabi: yeah, but while that allows for the possibility of a new foundation or association, it doesn't explain why we'd want one.
02:52 wasabi      [off] pass from me, its been an LL thing from the start, so i dismiss it as being rigged/gamed, without reading the specs....
02:52 wasabi      ie: 40% blah
03:02 * chris_n   wanders back in for a bit
03:11 * chris     wanders out :)
03:34 Oak         \o
04:00 indradg     chris, pm?
04:23 Amit        heya chris
04:36 chris       I wonder if someone else wants to have a go explaining ed doesn't seem to understand
06:08 yhager      I need to choose my MARC flavour - which should I select unimarc or marc21 (no idea)?
06:15 braedon     yhager: i believe marc21 is the more up to date format
06:15 braedon     but i am no librarian - i wouldn't know the benefits of either
07:07 chris       wow its poke the hornets nest day :)
07:09 gmcharlt    yhager: where are you located?
07:10 gmcharlt    it's generally best to pick the flavor that is used by catalogers in your country
07:11 gmcharlt    as that makes it easier to grab MARC records from local Z39.50 sources
07:15 chris       good grief gmcharlt have you caught 2 young children disease?
07:15 chris       isnt it 5am or something?
07:17 gmcharlt    no, only 3:30
07:17 chris       oh thats much better :P
07:17 gmcharlt    much ;)
07:22 chris       heh
07:22 chris       http://identi.ca/conversation/55854060#notice-56336150
07:23 chris       wasabi++
07:23 chris       indradg++
07:25 wasabi      Ed's missing 3rd option  was so obvious  - i was compelled to correct
07:25 chris       :)
07:30 indradg     :)
07:45 chris       gah
07:47 chris       someone needs to point out to david they dont own the name
07:47 chris       HLT has the EU country mark
07:58 * indradg   thinks sometimes beating people senseless with a cluebat should be mandated & legal
08:00 chris       heh
08:03 larsw       david lang seems to me to either be rather ignorant or, worse, a troll
08:03 larsw       not just about the ownership of the koha name, but in general
08:03 chris       yeah i think a troll, but it did give me the opportunity to point out HLT own the EU mark on it
08:04 chris       which altho biblibre did a blogpost on, im not sure is widely known
08:05 larsw       *nod*
09:54 cait        hi #koha
09:59 cait        silence? everybody in nz already?
09:59 cait        :)
10:00 Oak         silence is golden!
10:02 cait        perhaps I am more a silver person :)
10:03 cait        we have a saying like that, speaking is silver, silence is golden
10:04 Oak         :)
10:32 fredericd   pure troll discussion on koha list...
15:52 yhager      How do I know if my old koha install (3.0) is using unimarc or marc21?
15:58 cait1       hi #koha
16:05 yhager      I am in the installation process, at "Selecting Default Settings - MARC Frameworks: MARC21" and I have no idea which of the options to select. Didn't find any docs. Anyone?
16:32 cait        @wunder wellington nz
16:32 munin       cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (5:00 AM NZDT on October 17, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Falling).
16:32 cait        @wunder auckland nz
16:32 munin       cait: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 14.0�C (5:00 AM NZDT on October 17, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
16:33 cait        @wunder Reutlingen
16:33 munin       cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 7.3�C (6:43 PM CEST on October 16, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 28.23 in 955.9 hPa (Rising).
16:33 cait        hm :)
16:33 braedon     hmm indeed
16:41 cait        hope it stays that way
16:47 chris_n     @wunder 28334
16:47 munin       chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 20.4�C (12:56 PM EDT on October 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 12%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady).
16:47 chris_n     perfect
16:52 yhager      @wunder nelson bc ca
16:52 munin       yhager: Error: No such location could be found.
16:52 yhager      @wunder
16:52 munin       yhager: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
16:52 yhager      @wunder nelson bc
16:52 munin       yhager: The current temperature in 2905 lower six mile, Nelson, British Columbia is 6.9�C (12:02 PM EASST on October 16, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady).
17:21 jcamins_a   yhager: you'd decide whether to use UNIMARC or MARC21 based on what libraries around you use.
17:21 jcamins_a   Since you're in Canada, probably MARC21.
17:23 jcamins_a   yhager: I don't know how to check what 3.0.x is using, but in 3.2 if you look in the Cataloging tab in the sysprefs, there's a "marcflavour" syspref.
17:23 jcamins_a   Also, your librarians will know.
17:26 jcamins_a   yhager: if you have titles in the 245 field, it's MARC21, if the titles are in the 200 field, it's UNIMARC.
17:41 brendan_l   morning
17:41 jcamins_a   Morning.
17:47 yhager      jcamins_a: thanks, I chose MARC21, since I saw that is what used in Canada. I also found the same admin pref marcflavour in 3.0
17:47 yhager      jcamins_a: since you woke up, another q - is it enough to backup the mysql koha database?
17:48 jcamins_a   yhager: that will preserve all your data and settings, yes.
17:49 jcamins     If you made any local customizations to the code, you'll want to save those somehow, too.
17:49 yhager      jcamins: sure, thanks. My 3.2 install is ready. Thanks!
17:50 jcamins     Yay!
18:13 * jcamins_a wanders off to enjoy the beautiful chill day by preparing an inventory of art books
18:13 magnus      @wunder bodo, norway
18:13 munin       magnus: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 6.0�C (8:00 PM CEST on October 16, 2010). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
18:24 magnus      @wunder wellington nz
18:24 munin       magnus: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 17, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Falling).
18:42 brendan     @wunder 93117
18:42 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.4�C (11:47 AM PDT on October 16, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady).
18:43 magnus      that's a lot of humidity, but otherwise nice...
18:44 brendan     yeah it seems more like rain
19:21 cait        hi  #koha
19:23 brendan     heya cait
19:23 cait        hi brendan
19:25 cait        :)
19:25 cait        @wunder wellington nz
19:25 munin       cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on October 17, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
19:25 cait        @wunder Konstanz
19:25 munin       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.2�C (9:36 PM CEST on October 16, 2010). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady).
19:25 cait        chilly
19:55 magnus      good night cait and #koha
19:55 cait        good night magnus
20:08 brendan     hopuceth
20:08 brendan     hsdfjioaf
20:09 brendan     heh - sorry about that - doggie sitting and he's on my keyboard
20:09 cait        cat on keyboard?
20:09 cait        ah
21:32 slef        hi all
21:43 slef        hi cait: what's your library's domain?
21:43 cait        hi slef
21:43 cait        what do you mean?
21:43 cait        I am not working a a
21:44 cait        at a library - we are a support vendor and h
21:44 slef        oh right... my confusion :)
21:44 cait        sorry for the tyo
21:44 cait        typos
21:44 slef        I'll look back at some meeting notes to see if I can figure it out.
21:44 cait        not sure how to you say that in english - but my hand is sleeping ;)
21:45 slef        A client asked me about some german library, the domain looks like line noise :)
21:45 cait        perhaps I can help - what is your question?
21:45 slef        yeah, "my hand is asleep"
21:45 cait        ah
21:45 cait        hfjs.bsz-bw.de
21:45 slef        no, don't worry, it was about a particular library
21:45 cait        ß
21:45 cait        ?
21:45 slef        aha!
21:45 slef        I think that's it
21:45 cait        our first and biggest customer
21:46 slef        So my swiss cheese memory didn't completely fail me.
21:46 cait        hochschule für jüdische studien
21:46 slef        OK, when I'm back at work, I know who to pester :)
21:46 cait        we will meet soon
21:46 cait        you can pester me at the road trip ;)
21:48 cait        hfjs = hochschule für jüdische studien, their website is hfjs.eu
21:48 cait        bsz-bw is our domain, bibliotheksservice zentrum baden württemberg ;) - but yeah, it looks a bit like line noise
21:49 slef        :)
22:36 slef        ok, power has gone dodgy - just had a brownout - bbl