Time  Nick      Message
00:05 slef      I wasn't going to reply to david lang's last email, but I couldn't resist the idea of us owning PTFS.
00:05 chris     he is a bit trolly
00:05 chris     i wish he'd put the same effort into using or working on koha
00:06 chris     as he does leaping on contentious issues on the mailing list
00:06 chris     and yes that was excellent ;)
00:07 slef      publicly, I look similar... I really am making progress unscrewing our git trees though, I swear
00:07 chris     heh, i saw your gitorious stuff :) and the EDI stuff
00:07 slef      I must remember to make sure I clone everything to London before I go, as Somerset will be powered off.
00:07 chris     ah yeah
00:08 chris     that would be annoying :)
00:08 chris_n   slef++ # koha foundation owning ptfs... heh
00:08 * chris_n knows just what he would vote to do first
00:08 slef      chris_n: shed a few staff?
00:09 chris_n   bingo
00:09 chris_n   [off] starting with the ceo
00:09 slef      does [off] still work?
00:09 chris     ill look
00:10 chris     http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today
00:10 slef      only at start of line
00:10 chris     [off] need to make sure who is in here when you use it tho
00:10 slef      bah I don't care
00:10 chris     :)
00:10 slef      I've had worse.
00:11 chris_n   it was a lame attempt a civility :)
00:11 slef      right, time to pass out - long day ahead tomorrow
00:11 chris     sleep well
00:11 chris_n   g'night
00:11 slef      I'm wondering about moving to 36 hour days ready for the flight :)
00:13 slef      oh wait
00:13 slef      I'm sure I know that college from somewhere.
00:14 chris     fol de rol
00:15 slef      I think I'll reply off-list.
00:15 chris     probably wise
00:15 chris     he must be only doing it for attention
00:42 slef      Someone else can correct PTFS's Amy on the foundation/association thing. I'm gone and feel like I'm talking to brick walls.
00:42 slef      bbl
00:43 chris     yeah
00:46 * chris_n thinks ptfs owes the community an apology prior to anyone engaging with them in foundations/whatever dialog
00:47 slef      for which action?
00:47 chris     id take one for any of them
00:47 chris     as a start
00:48 slef      [off] now is the time to extract apologies, before they offer to buy us lunch
00:48 slef      seriously, gone
00:48 chris     [off] indeed
00:54 chris     yeah, i'm not answering that email, and i hope no one else does
00:57 chris_n   well
00:57 chris_n   so much for hope, eh?
00:58 chris     heh, it was fairly forlorn :)
00:58 chris     at least it was a decent answer
00:59 chris     [off] not another 'oh they are reaching out, lets agree to whatever they say' answer
01:00 chris_n   *nod*
01:00 chris_n   has anyone tried running koha over MariaDB (http://mariadb.org/)?
01:00 chris_n   it advertises as a drop-in replacement for mysql
01:01 jcamins   chris_n: I was just about to ask that.
01:01 chris     no but we should
01:01 chris     in fact
01:01 chris     i will
01:01 chris_n   we could get multi-db support instantly
01:01 chris     and drizzle
01:01 chris_n   and promote a much more foss db in the process
01:02 chris     the drizzle developers are smart smart people
01:02 jcamins   chris_n: I'm not quite sure that's really multi-db.
01:02 jcamins   ;)
01:02 chris     https://launchpad.net/drizzle
01:02 chris_n   multi in the sense of "more than one" :)
01:02 chris     but yes, i think that would be a fun developer conference thing to play with
01:03 jcamins   chris_n: I guess... I feel like drop-in replacements don't count.
01:03 chris     id take getting rid of mysql
01:03 chris     :)
01:03 chris_n   what id really like to see is db agnostic code
01:03 jcamins   Me too!
01:04 chris     step one in 3.4
01:04 chris_n   can you spell "abstraction"?
01:04 jcamins   Of course, then I'd use the db-agnostic code to use MySQL, since that's the flavor of SQL I'm familiar with, but it's the principle of the thing.
01:04 chris     can you spell 'do it properly or die a horrible death of slow sql'
01:04 chris_n   hehe
01:04 * chris_n favors pg
01:04 jcamins   chris: yes. "ODBC"
01:05 chris_n   because of maturity
01:05 chris     but DBIx::Class::Schema
01:05 chris     ODBC isnt much more abstract than the DBI we have now jcamins
01:05 chris     i have deployed Koha on pg using the schema generated by that
01:05 jcamins   chris: I was spelling "do it properly or die a horrible death of slow sql." :P
01:05 chris     jcamins: ahh :)
01:06 jcamins   That was the dying a horrible death.
01:06 chris     i was thinking tangram
01:06 chris     and other object layer abstractions over sql
01:06 chris     my pg deploy stopped when loading in the data
01:06 chris     but i got a db created
01:07 chris     using DBIx::Class::Schema
01:07 chris     just have to fix our mysqlisms in the data we load
01:07 chris     and we are most of the way to being able to run it under either
01:07 robin     oh, and some of those horrible queries, too
01:07 chris     that too :)
01:08 chris     but those are easy to pick off once the donkey work of standing it up is done
01:08 chris_n   horrible_queries--
01:08 chris     robin: srdjan can fix all those for us :
01:08 chris     )
01:08 robin     well, methods that issues many more queries than they should
01:08 robin     apparently like GetItem
01:08 chris     *nod*
01:08 chris     yep
01:08 * chris_n hates the ones that fetch * data when you only need a few rows
01:08 robin     chris: my plan also :)
01:10 * chris_n heads off to find sleep
01:10 chris     night
01:11 jcamins   Good night.
01:13 jcamins   I should have skipped reading my e-mail this evening, shouldn't I?
01:14 jcamins   [off] this is what I get for being the kind of business owner who would vote *for* mandatory paid sick leave. I *just* don't get it.
01:14 chris     yeah :)
01:18 * robin   really hates that MARC::Field *requires* that you give it values when you create a new one. Although I guess it makes it harder to make invalid MARC.
01:19 jcamins   robin: why would you want to create fields with no values?
01:19 robin     jcamins: because I want to create a field, and then loop over an array and fill it up.
01:20 robin     As it is, I need to make logic that handles the first case specially.
01:21 jcamins   Ah.
01:24 * jcamins sighs
01:24 jcamins   I know there was something I needed to do tonight.
01:26 chris     ttp://openlib.org/home/krichel/
01:26 chris     hmm http://openlib.org/home/krichel/ even
01:26 chris     interesting guy
01:26 chris     your neck of the woods jcamins
01:26 jcamins   Yeah, he's a professor at the library school I just graduated from.
01:27 chris     oh cool
01:27 jcamins   Well, just finished.
01:27 jcamins   Technically, I won't have graduated until December, but I sent in my graduation application, so I feel like I'm done.
01:28 chris     http://openlib.org/home/krichel/visitor/nyc/
01:28 chris     what a neat idea
01:29 jcamins   He teaches a class on administering Koha.
01:29 chris     very cool
02:15 wasabi    robin:  re: MARC::field i have the same stupid problem too
02:15 robin     wasabi: it makes sense in some ways, but that doesn't stop it being annoying
02:16 wasabi    it makes coding much harder, using marc::field :/
02:17 wasabi    my fix was to create a new field with a dummy x => 'xxx' tag
02:17 robin     yeah. Although, I think designing around it tends to give me more robust code, that won't do things like add en empty field to a record.
02:17 robin     I also did that :)
02:17 wasabi    then use a sub() to remove those dummy tags, afaik
02:18 wasabi    cool, nice to confirm the problem/solution wasnt just me :)
02:22 robin     heh
02:24 * jcamins still can't remember what he is supposed to be doing tonight.
02:31 robin     yay, my csvtomarc converter can now handle having a seperate CSV file that contains the items to attach to the biblios.
02:32 jcamins   How do you relate the two CSVs?
02:32 robin     --itemlink 'ID=ID'
02:32 robin     so, a column called ID in one matches a column ID in the other
02:33 jcamins   Ah. Very sensible.
03:14 Oak       \o
03:17 Amit      heya chris
03:17 brendan   heya amit
07:08 magnus    g'day #koha! D-4!
07:10 Oak       peace be on you magnus
07:11 magnus    thanks, and the same to (on?) you, Oak
07:11 Oak       :)
07:13 Oak       well, I should have said: peace be upon you
07:15 magnus    it was a very nice greeting anyway... ;-)
07:58 ivanc     hi #koha
08:34 magnus    hiya ivanc
08:46 magnus    paul_p++ # for the last couple of messages to the list
08:49 ivanc     ciao magnus
08:51 Barrc     Does anyone know if Koha LDAP authentication can use SSL?
08:51 paul_p    hi magnus & al
08:51 magnus    bonjour paul_p
08:55 cait      good morning #koha
08:56 David     good morning!
08:56 cait      hi David
08:56 magnus    good morning David and cait
08:57 cait      hi magnus :)
08:57 David     I have a question.  I've newly installed koha.  When I try to view the page, it sends me to /cgi-bin/koha/maintenance.pl but does not display a webpage.  Any place I should check for the error?
08:58 cait      have you run the web installer?
08:59 cait      add port :8080 to your url
08:59 cait      to log into the intranet or to start the web installer :)
08:59 cait      there is also a sys pref that activates that screen, i think it's called OpacMaintenance
09:04 David     Ah.  Lets say that I was accessing the server remotely.  WOuld I change the koha-httpd.conf to read *:8080 rather than 127.0.0.1:8080?
09:04 cait      no
09:04 cait      there should already be to virtual hosts
09:05 cait      one for 80 = opac and one for :8080 for intranet
09:05 cait      you need both urls to work with koha
09:05 cait      oh
09:05 cait      sorry, perhaps I misunderstood you
09:05 cait      still not really awake here :)
09:06 cait      I am not sure about the right settings in the conf file - I normally get it working, but I don't know how to trouble shoot it
09:06 cait      if you can access the opac you should be able to access the intranet too
09:06 cait      perhaps you need to add  Listen 8080 to your apache conf file
09:08 David     I think I actually need to use the serveralias of intranet.asdf.com Would that make sense?
09:10 cait      sorry David - as I said, I don't know much about it
09:10 David     I appreciate the help anyway :D
09:11 cait      my coworker takes care of your real installations and I normally only change the ip in the file when I do a dev install on my laptop :)
09:12 cait      which os are you using?
09:13 cait      perhaps one of the installation files in the wiki can help you
09:16 David     Debian
09:16 David     I'm about to upgrade to squeeze just to get the rpm, lol.
09:22 cait      I am using ubuntu, so not sure about the differences to debian
09:22 cait      have you added the listen 8080 to your apache conf file?
09:22 cait      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu
09:31 David     Debian is pretty damn close (w/o the need to sudo all the time ;) )
09:31 David     I just added that to the apache conf file and now I'm waiting for my CNAME to go live
09:31 cait      ok, time to go
09:32 cait      hope it works!
09:33 David     Hooray!  Thank you cait!  It worked so well!!
09:34 laurenthd slef: is there any patch you would like me to consider in 3.0 ?
09:39 Oak       that link is broken: http://www.library.org.nz/koha.htm
09:39 David     what is the default username and password and/or where is conf.xml?
09:40 David     in /etc/ nice
10:07 David     so the OPAC is the public search portal?
10:07 magnus    David: yup
10:08 David     lets say I wanted to rerun the installer.  How would I do that?
10:10 David     I just really want to repopulate the zebra database with the example data
10:25 David     So to rerun the installer, I need to drop the databases?
10:30 Barrc     David: You will new to manually create the database and assign permission after you drop it and before you re-run the installer
10:41 David     I now have my first Koha system up!  Thank you everyone!
10:42 Barrc     Does anyone have any thoughts or opinions (or ever used/heard) of Greenstone? (not the correct place to be asking, but just curious if any Koha users are also using it)
10:42 Barrc     Well done Daivd, have fun!
10:52 David     Will Koha support foreign alphabets?
10:54 David     Кгыышфт ащк учфьзду?
10:59 ebegin    David, it already does
10:59 David     ebegin - Great news!
11:00 ebegin    Which language was the text you send us?
11:00 David     It was in russian (I just typed an english phrase though)
11:04 David     Good night!
11:26 laurenthd hi jwagner
11:26 jwagner   Morning
11:26 jwagner   (or afternoon, or whatever...)
12:04 chris_n   heya owen
12:04 owen      Hi
12:52 laurenthd hi chris_n
12:57 chris_n   hey laurenthd
13:00 laurenthd has anyone had time to try and test our wip_removeitems ?
13:07 jwagner   laurenthd, is that the one in Bug 3597 or a new/extended one?
13:07 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3597 blocker, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, "Delete all items" doesn't check issues
13:08 laurenthd oh this has been done iirc on our master.
13:09 laurenthd I should definitely rebase
13:23 jcamins   Good morning, #koha
13:27 braedon|1 morning
13:27 owen      Only technically morning for you isn't it braedon?
13:28 braedon   :)
13:28 braedon   the night is still young
13:28 braedon   plenty of time left to muck around on the internet
13:29 jcamins   Ah, to be in Uni again. :P
13:29 braedon   not for long. just finished my last uni assignment
13:29 jcamins   Congratulations!
13:30 * owen    didn't have internet in college :P
13:33 jcamins   I guess this isn't a joke, since slef wrote it, but is anyone else amused by the latest addition to the NISO CORE protocol page on the wiki? "Koha users would like to connect to * MYOB - mind your own business"?
13:34 slef      hehe, I didn't notice the double meaning
13:35 jcamins   It was just the thing I needed to start my morning off. :)
13:36 * owen    seems to be spending his morning being a patch-kibitzer
13:36 * slef    seems to be spending his whole day being a todo-wrangler
13:37 * jcamins seems to spend all his time being a problem-finder
13:38 jcamins   Oops. That should have been "to be spending."
13:38 braedon   tsk tsk, broke the combo
13:38 * slef    hands jcamins copy and paste - easier on GNU/Linux
13:40 jcamins   Well, my nick is also two characters longer, so it wouldn't have looked right anyway.
13:40 jcamins   At least "spend" lined up.
13:57 * chris_n never can seem to get spending to line up
14:01 owen      Hi Sharon and collum
14:02 Sharon    Good morning
14:02 jcamins   Good morning.
14:03 owen      Sharon will you be playing the part of wizzyrea this morning?
14:03 * jcamins suddenly realizes that he is authorizing the form "Greek--Asia Minor" without feeling at all ill.
14:04 jcamins   I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing.
14:04 Sharon    I'm not worthy
14:04 Sharon    Thought I should hang out though, lonely here in the office all by myself
14:05 gmcharlt  jcamins: free yourself from the chains!
14:05 * owen    wonders how much this book overlaps with nengard's: http://www.infotoday.com/books/books/Open-Source-Web-Apps-for-Libraries.shtml
14:06 Sharon    think we need to get both for our prof. coll.
14:07 jcamins   owen: I don't know. I don't recall hearing about that book at all.
14:07 * owen    found it in a piece of infotoday junk mail
14:08 jcamins   Ah, that would be why.
14:08 * jcamins doesn't read anything from InfoToday.
14:09 jcamins   No, that's not true. I skim the SLA's newsletter which is published by InfoToday.
14:09 Sharon    so nobody going to Internet Librarian?
14:10 jcamins   ... I guess IL is around now?
14:10 Sharon    next week?
14:10 Sharon    I haven't been since 2008
14:10 jcamins   I had no idea. I'd think nengard would be going, but maybe it conflicts with Kohacon?
14:15 collum    Good morning owen and everyone.
14:55 ebegin    Good day #koha!
14:57 ebegin    Am I correct when I say that the search by date uses only the content of field 008 and doesn't care of @marc 260 c
14:57 ebegin    @marc 260 c
14:57 munin     ebegin: Date of publication, distribution, etc. May contain multiple dates (e.g., dates of publication and copyright). (Repeatable)
14:57 ebegin    @marc 008
14:57 munin     ebegin: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. []
15:26 Barrc     Does anyone know if Z39.50 searches are logged anywhere? (3.006) I can't get any ISBN hits via Z39.50 from Koha but can from yaz client on another PC to the same source?
15:31 gmcharlt  Barrc: errors, at least, woudl show up in the Apache log
15:32 slef      Barrc: try searching from yaz client on Koha PC.
15:32 Barrc     It's not that its errors, Title and Subject return fine, ISBN get no hits, even though the use attributes seem fine.....can't see anything in apache log
15:33 Barrc     slef: I did, it's the same problem. No ISBN search but all other indexes are fine.
15:33 Barrc     Not really a Koha problem then, I suppose!
15:36 jcamins   Barrc: what target are you searching?
15:37 Barrc     I have tried a few, loc.gov and a subscribed server from BDS in the UK, both return fine from other clients
15:37 jcamins   Hm.
15:38 jcamins   That's strange. I didn't think LC supported ISBN at all.
15:39 Barrc     OK, don't hold me to that ISBN test aginst the LC, I had someone else test it.....suppose I should run it myself to make sure!
15:52 fcapo     Hello, I isolated my problem with the link_bibs_to_authorities.pl script : it seems the authority search always fails if query limiters are used.
15:53 Barrc     OK, it seems, and I've tried this from the demo Z39.50 source that come with koha, that I can't get any ISBN results......can anyone confirm they can?
15:53 fcapo     If I comment the line "$query .= $self->_query_limiters();" line in C4/Heading.pm, link_bibs_to_authorities.pl seems to link my authorities correctly.
15:54 owen      slef still around?
15:54 chris_n   fcapo: have you opened a bug report?
15:55 fcapo     Not yet
15:56 laurenthd Barrc: which marc flavour are you in ?
15:56 Barrc     Marc21
15:57 laurenthd which is your z3950 target flavour ?
15:57 Barrc     Yep, looking at the return records from a yaz-client the records are Marc21 too, and I can see the ISBN where it should be
15:57 chris_n   fcapo: might be good to and include the info you just posted
15:57 fcapo     Just wanted to make sure it was really a bug. Right now, if " AND at='self->{auth_type}' '" is added at the end of my authority search query, the search always returns 0 results
15:57 Barrc     just can't get any hits on ISBN
15:58 chris_n   fcapo: don't worry, the worst that will happen will be a "works for me" staus
15:58 chris_n   status, even
15:59 chris_n   but please feel free to open a bug any time
15:59 fcapo     Yea, but I<m not sure it works "correctly" for me right now. I think it ignores the auth_type of the biblio field. And that's bad.
16:00 slef      owen: yes but busy :-/
16:00 owen      slef: I @replied to you via Twitter, re: EDI link being broken
16:01 slef      @later tell wizzyrea please unlock "For Librarians" and "Worldwide" pages for me to edit (want to add link to Users list to those)
16:01 munin     slef: The operation succeeded.
16:01 slef      owen: I bet I know what I've done.
16:02 slef      owen: fixed. I'd left it in draft mode.
16:02 slef      (= only members can view)
16:02 slef      owen: thanks for that. owen++
16:03 owen      I think it's a really exciting announcement. I love seeing that kind of collaboration.
16:10 braedon   night, and have a good weekend #koha
16:13 chris_n   ouch... anybody else see something wrong with this page: http://koha-community.org/?s=test
16:13 * chris_n nudges owen to look
16:14 braedon   part of a comment at the bottom?
16:14 chris_n   the entire page layout is messed up here
16:15 * braedon doesn't know what it is supposed to look like, but it does seem off
16:15 chris_n   it probably should look similar to the home page
16:16 chris_n   @later tell wizzyrea is http://koha-community.org/?s=test messed up or is it me?
16:16 munin     chris_n: The operation succeeded.
16:16 Oak       Looks messed up in 3.6.10
16:17 Oak       Looks ok in Opera 10.61 and Chrome
16:17 braedon   hmm, that comment close is actually just in the code
16:17 braedon   </div> <!-- #sidebar -->  --> </div> <!-- #main -->
16:17 Oak       Chrome 5.0.375.127
16:18 braedon   Messed in firefox4b8pre
16:18 Oak       There is no "Event Calendar" appearing in Chrome and Opera
16:19 * chris_n wonders how it looks in internet exploder
16:19 Oak       In Firefox "Event Calendar" is in right column and is going out of page boundary causing a long horizontal scroll bar
16:22 braedon   firefox4, right column not formed properly, and only contains results list
16:23 braedon   ahh, there would be the problem
16:24 braedon   a quote start has been put on the line opening the sidebar div
16:24 braedon   <!-- <div id="sidebar">
16:24 braedon   presumably its end is the random end quote further down
16:25 braedon   so looks like someone has tried to block comment the sidebar
16:25 Oak       Firefox http://img143.imageshack.us/i/23545403.jpg/
16:26 Oak       IE8 http://img87.imageshack.us/i/ie8c.jpg/
16:27 fcapo     Is there any doc on how to build SimpleSearch queries correctly?
16:27 braedon   Oak: firefox4 is closer to that ie8
16:27 Oak       hmm
16:28 Oak       my screen shots were taken using Adobe Browser Lab
16:28 braedon   Oak: do you have firefox3.6?
16:28 Oak       yup
16:29 Oak       Looks same as in screen shots
16:29 braedon   can you check the source, and see where the code highlighting ends the quote that starts at the sidebar div?
16:29 slef      chris_n: looks like a theme error. I don't have access to investigate.
16:29 Oak       ok
16:30 braedon   slef: looks to me like some content is prematurely terminating a quote around the sidebar
16:30 braedon   but being a pre beta browser, not sure
16:31 braedon   seems to be terminating on "...Last changed date Thu 16:40 [&hellip;]'>"
16:32 braedon   s/quote/comment/
16:33 braedon   sorry :P
16:33 slef      braedon: that is also possible, but it seems to happen all the time for me, so it may be a theme-fu
16:33 braedon   should the sidebar be commented out?
16:33 braedon   surely it should just not be included if it is not wanted?
16:35 braedon   and the seemingly offending line is in the bugs widget
16:35 braedon   so it will always show up
16:35 slef      I'm not sure. I don't have access to investigate what's happening in the search results template, so can't say if commenting the sidebar out is the right fix or if that would just move the problem to the footer or something.
16:35 braedon   while the particular bug is in that list
16:36 Oak       W3C Markup validation: http://tinyurl.com/34fd66q
16:36 braedon   slef: it looks as if someone has tried to comment out the sidebar
16:37 slef      braedon: but commented out in HTML not PHP, right?
16:37 braedon   yes
16:37 braedon   "    invalid comment declaration: found name character outside comment but inside comment declaration"
16:38 braedon   that would be the problem
16:49 braedon   chris_n: do you want to know the problem/solution? or should i leave a message for wizzyrea?
16:50 Oak       in the source code, there is a line: <!-- <div id="sidebar"> if you change it to <!-- <div id="sidebar"--> then it fixes a lot of things
16:50 braedon   Oak: alas, that leaves the sidebar in, but without its opening tag
16:50 chris_n   braedon: both
16:50 braedon   ok, here goes
16:51 braedon   the problem is, primarily, that html comments are being used to comment out the sidebar, and html comments are retarded
16:51 Oak       hmm
16:51 braedon   in html comments, a sequence "--" is equivalent to a quote
16:52 * chris_n goes to have a look
16:52 braedon   the "<!" opens the comment tag, the ">" closes it
16:52 braedon   to put any text in your comment, you must quote it with "--"
16:52 braedon   ie, all blocks of -'s must be multiples of 4 in the text of your comment
16:53 chris_n   but wizzyrea is the word press expert, so I probably will not be able to fix it
16:53 braedon   if you use two -'s, it closes the quotes, so you must immediately use another two to open them again
16:54 braedon   the problem here is that the are three, not two, being used as separators in the title fields of links in the bug widget of the sidebar
16:55 Oak       <!-- opens a comment and --> closes it
16:56 braedon   the first time you hit one of these 3 -'s, the first two close the quote, and then the closing > of the a tag is interpreted as the close of the comment tag, since no two -'s are seen before it to open quote again
16:56 braedon   thus, at the first bug link in the sidebar, the commenting out of the sidebar breaks
16:56 braedon   exactly how it breaks depends on the exact parsing of your browser
16:57 braedon   to fix, comment the sidebar out in php, not in html, or change the separator from 3 to 4 -'s, or to something else entirely
16:57 braedon   Oak: alas, it it is not that simple
16:57 braedon   http://techpatterns.com/forums/about1186.html
16:58 Oak       yes braedon, noe I know what you mean: http://htmlhelp.com/reference/wilbur/misc/comment.html
17:02 braedon   o, note also that nested comments are not allowed in html, and there are other comments in the sidebar, so even removing that premature comment end will just push the problem further down (i think)
17:02 * chris_n will leave well enough alone
17:03 chris_n   having looked, I will only end up breaking something as it is not self evident how to change the search result template
17:04 braedon   @later tell wizzyrea hopefully this helps with chris_n's message http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-10-15#i_519928
17:04 munin     braedon: The operation succeeded.
17:05 * braedon makes another attempt at going to bed :P
17:05 braedon   night (again) #koha
17:05 Oak       night braedon
17:05 Oak       peace be upon you
17:23 Oak       night
17:28 fcapo     Authorities searches by authtype don't work in my Koha instance. That might be the cause of my linkage problem.
17:29 fcapo     Anybody had that problem?
17:35 fcapo     hum... If I edit and save an existing authority, it then becomes searchable by authtype...
17:49 fcapo     Ok, the problem was on my side... We used a modified bulkmarcimport script to import the authorities and it looks like it stored the authorities incorrectly... Using the orginal bulkmarcimport.pl with the -a option for authority importation fixed everything.
17:49 gmcharlt  fcapo: out of curiosity, what was wrong, specifically?
17:50 fcapo     That's what I'm trying to find. All I know is that authorities imported with the custom import script can't be searched by authtype.
17:51 fcapo     And link_bibs_by_authorities used authtypes in its searches, so that's why the links weren't created
17:53 gmcharlt  fcapo: at a guess, it may not have been calculating the authtype and including that as the third parameter of AddAuthority
17:58 fcapo     It seems to use GuessAuthTypeCode to get the authtypecode... so the problem isnt there...
18:03 fcapo     hum.. It doesn't use AddAuthority... it just sends the authority directly in the BD without doing the fixes and verifications AddAuthority does :/
18:07 fcapo     haha... the authtypecode isn't added into the $record like in AddAuthority. Well, that's the problem I guess.
18:07 chris     fol de rol again, that guy cant help himself
18:42 ebegin    I though there was a syspref to set the number of results per page in the opec...
18:42 ebegin    s/opec/opac :)
18:43 jwagner   ebegin, see OPACnumSearchResults (in Searching tab)
18:44 ebegin    jwagner, arrg... that Searching tab... I always forget it :) tnx
18:47 * jcamins would like to make the following statement: non-profit management is tiresome.
18:51 schuster  So the community git is what release currently?
18:53 brendan   all of them ;)
18:53 schuster  so it would be 3.2+
18:53 sekjal    http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=summary shows all the latest commits to the codebase
18:54 sekjal    looks like we're 12 updates past the bundling of 3.2 RC1
18:54 brendan   http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=summary
18:54 brendan   heh jinx sekjal++
18:58 yhager    In my arch koha package, I want to refer the user to the INSTALL document, but it is not getting installed. Actually there is no /usr/share/doc/koha* directory after installation
18:59 aarkerio  hi!! there is something like "Medical Reference Library" to store books
18:59 aarkerio  I mean, something like Dewey but for Medical Books
19:02 * sekjal  is listening to banjo music, much to his surprise
19:04 jcamins   Any idea why about half-way through the list of authorities, the results stop being in order?
19:05 jcamins   (I pulled up all records in the staff client, and am going through them; on page 68/100 [okay, two-thirds], I haveSambon, Mowat, Rome, Perdrizet, Rome, Svorons, Tetradrachm, Seals, Sayles, Propaganda...)
19:20 ebegin    What is considered as a main entry in an  authority (ref: Browse by subjects)
19:20 ebegin    Is it the field that is copied in the bib?  For exemple, 100 for the personal name?
19:21 jcamins   ebegin: if you mean for searching, only the first box works, so far as I know.
19:24 jcamins   Zebra only sorts the first 1000 results, doesn't it?
19:28 jcamins   Hm. What goes in authtrees in the auth_header table?
19:29 jcamins   NULL.
19:30 jcamins   Is it possible to export authority records?
19:33 * brendan finds that I usually like reading chris_n messages to the list (well written and thought out - in general) chris_n++
20:11 jcamins   It's harder to upgrade Firefox than IE?
20:11 jcamins   I *knew* there was something wrong with my computer.
20:11 jcamins   (Windows reports occasionally that IE needs to be updated, and then refuses to do anything about it)
20:23 chris     Heh
20:25 chris     Man that david is a piece of work
20:26 larsw     you are making me want to re-subscribe :P
20:26 chris     Heh
20:26 jcamins   larsw: you unsubscribed from the lists, and spend all your time on #koha?
20:26 jcamins   Separation anxiety? :P
20:26 chris     His latest message is pretty special
20:27 larsw     jcamins, I hang out here so as not to lose all contact with some of the friends I made while I worked on Koha
20:27 larsw     and I try to lurk so as not to disturb you all
20:28 jcamins   larsw: Fair enough. _I_ certainly would be sorry to see you leave.
20:28 jcamins   And not just because you always pop up to answer the tricky questions about Debian.
20:28 chris     http://www.oreillynet.com/conferences/blog/2006/07/oscon_how_open_source_projects.html
20:29 larsw     chris, special, check
20:29 chris     :)
20:33 jcamins   Closing time.
20:33 jcamins   Good night, #koha
21:22 schuster  Just as long as it isn't this David you are refering to... Schuster
21:26 chris     Nope the other david, the one who just picks fights on mailing lists
21:34 chris     I really think there is nothing to be gained engaging with him, he needs the last word and is just contrary
21:34 chris     Best thing is to not feed him
21:39 chris     He's pretty successfully killed that thread
22:00 yhager    Hi all, I have created an archlinux package for koha. Should I post about it on the mailing list?
22:00 yhager    http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41853
22:01 larsw     yhager, yes, you should
22:01 yhager    It takes care of *all* the perl dependencies, which is most of the pain in installing this, so I am pretty happy to have it
22:01 yhager    larsw: ok, I'll do some more checks and post about it (probably not before tomorrow)
22:26 gmcharlt  yhager++
22:26 yhager    :)
23:22 chris     Well I tried let's see if it achieves anything
23:28 chris     That was my actions have consequences email diplomatic as possible