Time  Nick       Message
23:59 jcamins    Right now I'm working on the Debian GNU/Linux part.
23:59 jcamins    I'm writing a blog post with reading suggestions for learning enough to handle Koha.
23:58 jcamins    Right.
23:58 jwagner    And good high-end PCs aren't that expensive any more.
23:58 jwagner    But the more memory and processors you can throw at it, the happier you'll be.  (You the person trying to install, of course)
23:57 jcamins    jwagner: thanks! That's what I thought.
23:51 jwagner    jcamins, it probably depends on the size of the collection.  druthb got Koha running on a netbook -- slow and small, but it worked.
23:45 jcamins_a  Is it fair to say "any reasonably high-end computer from the last five years could run Koha"?
23:45 munin      chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (12:00 PM NZDT on October 09, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
23:45 chris      @wunder wellington,nz
22:58 cait       I think it's a good idea to go to bed now
22:57 cait       found it
22:54 cait       did I miss something?
22:35 chris_n    bbl
22:35 chris_n    ptfs--
22:31 cait       :)
22:31 cait       hi chris_n
22:31 chris_n    heya cait
22:31 cait       hi #koha
22:26 chris_n    wizzyrea_: I think it may be too late... sadly
22:26 * moodaepo goes out
22:25 munin      moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 30.9�C (5:34 PM CDT on October 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 28.90 in 978.6 hPa (Steady).
22:25 moodaepo   @wunder 56001
22:25 * moodaepo just for good measure
22:25 moodaepo   ptfs-- <!++
22:24 wizzyrea_  it'd probably be better to leave this one for now
22:24 moodaepo   chris_n: Now what?
22:20 chris_n    ptfs needs to get a real life
21:32 nyu        quit
21:30 jwagner    Grump.  Stupid jquery can't read my mind....
20:23 jcamins    Have a good weekend, #koha
20:23 jcamins    Okay, it's weekend-y.
20:14 sekjal     have a good weekend, all!
20:01 jcamins    Okay. Thanks.
20:00 chris      not sure about staff side
20:00 chris      for the opac at least
20:00 chris      works even
19:59 chris      2 words
19:58 jcamins    Hey, what's the oldest version of Firefox that is believed to work with Koha?
19:53 jcamins    That and realizing that most people probably have no idea what I'm talking about when I say "you need to frozzle your XSLT stylesheet to foo your MARC." ;)
19:52 jcamins    Actually, that's partly where the idea of writing out the reading list came from.
19:52 jcamins    Yeah, I really like that idea.
19:52 wizzyrea_  it comes back with the link
19:51 wizzyrea_  update instructions
19:51 wizzyrea_  lol, we need a bot like limesurvey has that when someone says
19:51 chris      :)
19:51 jcamins    It would save me pasting the same half dozen links into this channel over and over.
19:51 chris      yeah good idea
19:50 jcamins    That might be kind of useful.
19:50 jcamins    Something like "learning to deal with git so you can work with Koha," "learning to deal with Perl so you can work with Koha..."
19:49 jcamins    Maybe if I do one post on each technology.
19:49 reva       yo'all have a good weekend Bye jcamins:)
19:49 jcamins    Of course, it might scare people away from Koha.
19:49 jcamins    It's a good idea.
19:49 chris      you should do a blog post :)
19:49 chris      oh yeah?
19:46 jcamins    If anyone wants a sense of how much they know, I have a reading list for "what you need to know to work with Koha."
19:38 reva       Hi, I just wanted to mention that setting the OPACBaseURL as suggested here a few days ago (to http://localhost/, which is our OPAC address) did not create a link in my staff client for me. Why?
19:36 drulm      Zap. There is another patch you can all mock! Thank you, thank you very much.
19:22 jcamins    I'll say.
19:20 chris      he is
19:20 chris_n    thd is the master of completeness
19:16 drulm      nengard: Oh darn! You are right! Drat!
19:16 wizzyrea   (gotta get the kiddo)
19:16 wizzyrea   back in a few
19:16 nengard    but now everyone knows about it
19:15 drulm      nengard: I fell over from lack of sleep and my face hit the keyboard - but luckily nobody saw it
19:14 nengard    got it
19:14 jcamins    And I asked what to suggest for "HTML as it applies to Koha."
19:14 jcamins    I'm writing a "required reading" list for someone who wants to get up to speed on Koha fast.
19:14 chris      :)
19:13 nengard    oh i agree with you all - jsut wondering if there was something new and awesome i missed
19:13 chris_n    "Choice Selections from Owen's Koha Blog"
19:12 wizzyrea   and how helpful each and every one is
19:12 wizzyrea   no, but think about all the posts he's written
19:12 nengard    did he post something new?
19:12 munin      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
19:12 wizzyrea   @later tell owen you should write a book about Koha from your blog
19:11 chris      yeah
19:11 jcamins    I agree!
19:11 wizzyrea   he really should
19:11 wizzyrea   owen should write a book from his blog
19:08 jcamins    Ah, good call, thanks!
19:08 gmcharlt   jcamins: owen's blog, actually - not a book, I know
19:08 jcamins    (to clarify, this is "HTML so you can deal with customizing Koha" not "HTML for writing general-purpose web pages")
19:07 * wizzyrea can imagine few better ones.
19:07 * wizzyrea can imagine worse dieties
19:07 * gmcharlt blushes, and disclaims any responsibility for make the earth rotate
19:07 jcamins    If I need to recommend a basic book on HTML, what book should it be?
19:07 jcamins    gmcharlt: Thank you!
19:06 drulm      Well that all depends as to how everyone around here refers to Galen, but he is the R.M.
19:06 munin      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #98 added.
19:06 wizzyrea   @quote add drulm: TGIF=Thank Galen It's Friday
19:06 wizzyrea   haha!
19:05 drulm      TGIF = Thank Galen It's Friday
19:05 drulm      Yes it is.
19:01 chris_n    is it friday or what?
18:32 jcamins    That amuses me.
18:32 jcamins    The git web page has sections on "Remotey commands," "Branch commands," and "Patchy commands."
18:27 wizzyrea   :)
18:26 drulm      Oh, we have a release candidate!? Wow I just saw this! Awesome!
18:23 wizzyrea   I like him and his cookies
18:23 reva       ok, I will reset the acquired (is that the accession you mean) date. But see I will be setting it today's date (say) but the Last seen will show 10/01/2010 which is when the item record was created.
18:23 wizzyrea   I just realized I had accidentally ignored jcamins... and I am sorry :(
18:23 wizzyrea   sorry, I was distracted
18:23 wizzyrea   well I do think that falls in the "librarians should decide what is essential information" discussion
18:22 reva       ok, I suppose, I can set the export to include item records and see what happens. When I was staging and importing bib records into the database, it gave me that choice. I will have to experiment with that.
18:22 jcamins    I would speculate that you might be better off setting the accession date rather than the "date last seen," though.
18:20 jcamins    reva: I see. I have no idea.
18:20 reva       oh, because I wanted to change the date last seen in the item record. (we have assigned a cut-off date for exporting our good records, so I need the corresponding item records to show that date or later.)
18:20 jcamins    gmcharlt: thanks.
18:20 gmcharlt   jcamins: 3.2.x
18:20 jcamins    I guess statistics?
18:19 jcamins    I have no idea what the answer to your question is, but I don't see why you'd need to check out a book if you're non-circulating.
18:17 jcamins    reva: why do you need to check out a book then?
18:16 reva       jcamins, since we are not a circulating library, i have not assigned any barcode to my item records (neither system generated nor "manually created">) Do I have to do that before I can checkouook? Or is there a way to bypass giving items barcodes?
18:16 Drl-Ulm    wizzyrea: Or I can lump it in with the OpacPasswordChange preference
18:15 Drl-Ulm    wizzyrea: do we? I mean this could be another...gulp...global pref.
18:14 jcamins    If my understanding is correct, do we know what that branch will be called?
18:14 jcamins    Question: once 3.2 is released, HEAD will become the development branch for 3.4. So there will be a separate branch for 3.2, right?
18:14 wizzyrea   (do we classify "email" as essential contact information?)
18:14 wizzyrea   I think that would be good, except that for the most part koha requres librarian intervention to change essential contact information
18:04 Drl-Ulm    Also the question is would anyone even want that? :)
18:03 Drl-Ulm    I have a change which would allow a patron to add or change their EMAIL. I have no idea why I commited the other code. Tired!
18:03 Drl-Ulm    I need sleep, running on 3 hours.
18:03 * jcamins  could use one of those too
18:03 * jwagner  offers wizzyrea a stiff drink
18:00 * jcamins  offers wizzyrea a cookie
18:00 wizzyrea   can you make me stop sending stupid patches to the list? because that's really what I want.
17:59 nengard    anything we can help with?
17:59 nengard    :(
17:59 * wizzyrea sulks away and kicks git.
17:59 wizzyrea   ugh I can not do this right
17:58 jcamins    wizzyrea: you have a merge conflict.
17:58 Drl-Ulm    Sorry everyone!
17:58 Drl-Ulm    This is what happens when you have to setup Windows stuff for 6 months. Errr
17:57 Drl-Ulm    Wait, no...I never submitted that one. I have one to add an email account or change an email account. Sheesh. I *have* been out of the loop. What was I thinking.
17:55 Drl-Ulm    Let's laugh about it and move on, shall we.... heh
17:54 Drl-Ulm    I was confused on this because we are running an *early* version of 3.0 with lots of patches in it, and I am trying to clear them out. I wonder if they are the same code: Yeah same code. I think I forgot I submitted it. 50 computers setup with Win 7 and news servers later and I am out of the loop
17:52 Drl-Ulm    Well glad it is in there regardless
17:52 Drl-Ulm    I've been out of the loop for awhile, we got a > $100,000 grant and everything has been setting all that stuff up
17:51 Drl-Ulm    Either I did a password change code a while ago or someone else did. If that is the case at least one of my patches in the past was used - which is nice to know.
17:51 Drl-Ulm    :)
17:51 Drl-Ulm    !
17:51 Drl-Ulm    I sure did
17:46 jcamins    Drl-Ulm: I think you sent the wrong patch just now.
17:41 jcamins    You're welcome.
17:41 reva       jcamins, I meant you gave me the link to linux intro. But today's is a new one. Thanks.
17:39 reva       ok, I am kind of getting it.
17:39 jcamins    That is the patch.
17:38 reva       ok, I see it.
17:38 reva       jcamins, you gave me that one yesterday, and I went home and have made a determined start on it (the adverb is directly from Amis' Lucky Jim novel.)
17:38 jcamins    reva: see where it says "proposed patch"?
17:37 reva       jcamins, what I meant was when I got the link to the patch for the Location display enhancement just now, it was a file I could save. This one for the Show Place of Publication was not like that.
17:36 jcamins    reva: I would encourage you to read this as well: http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/toc.html
17:34 reva       boy jcamins, have I got my reading cut out for me for the weekend!!:)
17:33 jcamins    http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1237
17:33 reva       jcamins, so what do i do with it?
17:33 chris_n    $self->morph_to_bot(/me)... maybe?
17:32 jcamins    So the reason it looks like HTML is that it's XML.
17:32 jcamins    It is a patch for an XSLT stylesheet.
17:32 jcamins    reva: yes I did.
17:32 chris_n    owenbot.... ;-)
17:32 reva       jcamins did you actually click on the attachment?
17:31 jcamins    Oh, well, by that definition, gmcharlt is a patch-applying machine. ;)
17:31 gmcharlt   ;)
17:30 * gmcharlt giggles - but surely owen is just a patch-writing machine
17:30 reva       that is good to know that abt owen. I can feel the tetchiness in his responses and that should have told me that he is a real person.
17:30 jcamins    Oh yeah.
17:29 sekjal     pastebot
17:29 jcamins    Just munin, hudsonbot, logbot, and I think that's it.
17:29 jcamins    No, owen's a real person.
17:29 reva       jcamins. you mean In the link I just sent you? When I try to save from the link it opens a web page showing the code. who else is a robot in this irc? owen?
17:27 jcamins    reva: there's a proposed patch attached.
17:27 hudsonbot  chris_n: yummy! I really like that popcorn
17:27 chris_n    hudsonbot: botsnack popcorn
17:27 reva       jcamins, do I feel stupider and stupider in this forum:) But I am stubborn.
17:27 munin      chris_n: No definition for "munin" could be found.
17:27 chris_n    @dict munin
17:27 munin      sekjal: "munin" could be (#1) purveyor of all wisdom, or (#2) your chatbot pal who's fun to be with
17:27 sekjal     @whatis munin
17:27 munin      sekjal: Error: "define" is not a valid command.
17:27 sekjal     @define munin
17:27 munin      jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 22.4�C (1:35 PM EDT on October 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Falling).
17:27 jcamins    @wunder 11105
17:26 jcamins    Yes.
17:26 reva       seriously, jcamins?
17:26 jcamins    Not a person.
17:26 jcamins    reva: munin is a bot.
17:26 reva       ??? I am not getting your lines munin:()
17:25 munin      reva: Error: "Please" is not a valid command.
17:25 reva       munin?? Please see.
17:25 munin      reva: Error: "see" is not a valid command.
17:25 reva       munin, see my comment about no attachment I can download/save and do whatever.
17:23 munin      04Bug 5187: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Show place of publication (260$a) in OPAC/Staff
17:23 sekjal     no worries, briceSanc.  those happen
17:23 reva       jcamins, I have found the link: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5187. But the patch attachment is not a file I can save and run diff (and do whatever else). It looks like an html page with the source code in it.
17:22 briceSanc  sekjal, cait, I'm sorry, I had an impromptu meeting
17:18 jcamins    yhager: also, if you wanted to write up instructions for installing Koha on Arch, that would be great.
17:18 jcamins    Anyway, it works well.
17:18 jcamins    June?
17:18 jcamins    We've had 3.2 since... ummm... whenever we started using Koha.
17:17 yhager     jcamins: I thought so. Thanks for reassuring!
17:14 reva       Cait oncegave me here a link to a patch for showing place of publication in OPAC. I am not able to find it  by searching. And the serials Continues and Continued by , is there a patch for showing them?
17:14 jcamins    yhager: yes, I'd say so. A lot of people have been using 3.2 in production for a while.
17:13 yhager     We just finished a short pilot for our library with the latest stable 3.0. Today I am installing the real server - I guess it is safe to go with 3.2 now, right?
17:13 reva       jcamins, yes; but I was wanting to know whether they are the final versions of the patches if they are attached to the page. Ok, I kind of know the diff function from my Unix life.
17:12 jcamins    I would suggest looking online for documentation on patches and diffs.
17:10 jcamins    reva: those are patches. You will need to learn how to use patches.
17:08 reva       also, do I just download save and run the attachment fi they are present on the bugpages.?
17:07 yhager     It is a real pain to install each package manually, so I hope someone else will benefit :)
17:07 yhager     jcamins: cool. I will create the perl packages, then create a koha-dependencies package that depends on all those.
17:06 jcamins    I don't use Arch, so I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that any porting you do is porting that someone else doesn't have to do.
17:05 jcamins    yhager: I would think so, yes.
17:05 yhager     I am working on installing koha on archlinux. I have to create a lot of packages for the perl modules. Is this something that you think would be valuable to donate back?
17:04 reva       hi is there a patch for the 780 and 785 field showing? (The serial continues and continued by; I see a bug report for it; but no attachment.)
16:48 wizzyrea   I really just want another set of eyes on it before I send it out widely
16:47 wizzyrea   ty ty
16:47 nengard    i won't know if it's accurate - but i can proofread ....
16:47 wizzyrea   k sent
16:47 wizzyrea   INSTALL.lenny, to be precise
16:47 wizzyrea   (it's docs stuff)
16:47 nengard    :)
16:47 nengard    yes
16:46 wizzyrea   pleeeeez
16:46 wizzyrea   can I send you a patch for 1. proofread and 2. sign off :)
16:46 nengard    :)
16:46 wizzyrea   sorry
16:46 wizzyrea   oh s oryr
16:46 nengard    wizzyrea?
16:43 reva       ok, i will try that. This ruse is so that we know which bib records and item records to export to our hard drive install of the Live CD. (I still have not given up on the 3.2/Debian install. In the meantime we are inputting records into our Live CD  VirtualBox install of 3.0.6 so that we can take it with us
16:42 nengard    yuh huh
16:41 wizzyrea   nengard: about?
16:40 jcamins    Or check it in.
16:40 jcamins    reva: check it out.
16:40 reva       ok then jcamins. (I recall you saying Koha does not use the control fields at all.) So where do I change the "date last seen"? I do not see anyway I can change it in edit.
16:39 jcamins    It's useful for inventorying and shelfreading, and that sort of thing.
16:39 jcamins    It is the date the *physical item* was last seen.
16:39 jcamins    I believe it is the last time you changed the status of the item.
16:38 jcamins    reva: date last seen has nothing to do with the bib record.
16:38 reva       also,  is the item record getting the "date last seen" from 005 field? Because, I just corrected a bib record 005 to today's date (just to give us a cut-off date for our records to be exported) but the item record is still showing the older date as Date last seen. Or is it the indexing lagging behind?
16:27 reva       hi jwagner, and munin, thanks: I will get it.
16:17 Drl-Ulm    The new patches are fixed. Well, better to do it right.
16:16 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3789 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW, Set off Shelving Location in staff and OPAC title display
16:16 jwagner    reva, I wrote a patch to set off shelving location -- see Bug 3789
16:05 cait       bye all
16:05 cait       no problem
16:03 Drl-Ulm    thanks!
16:03 Drl-Ulm    cait: well the next ones that come through will be OK
16:03 reva       Hi again, I have another question. In the OPAC, there is no seperator between the Current Location and Shelving Location, so that they are running together in the same column. Very confusing display if you have a long library name, especially.
16:02 cait       cooking course :)
16:02 cait       I am sorry, I have to leave now
16:02 cait       it did not change dit you do git format-patch again?
16:02 Drl-Ulm    cait: wait, I see the line, still not correct.
16:02 Drl-Ulm    cait: OK, Just reconfabulated them and re-sent
16:00 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5297 critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced does nothing
16:00 nengard    Bug 5297 reported
15:59 Drl-Ulm    cait: yep, looks ok
15:58 cait       git config --global --list
15:58 cait       you can check the git settings with:  git config --list and
15:58 Drl-Ulm    cait: sec
15:58 Drl-Ulm    cait: ok
15:57 cait       to make it change
15:57 cait       file
15:57 cait       I think you must make a new patch
15:57 nengard    on - no - just on the from line ... got it
15:57 cait       ah
15:57 Drl-Ulm    nengard: right, but I think cait is saying that another line is in there somewhere
15:57 cait       nengard: in the patch?
15:56 nengard    i see your name
15:56 nengard    drl-ulm it's different for me
15:56 Drl-Ulm    Drat
15:56 nengard    k - i'm going to report it and if someone finds the original feel free to mark mine a dup
15:56 cait       not sure, the one I see is no different
15:56 nengard    hmmm
15:56 cait       nengard: I don't remember it
15:56 Drl-Ulm    cait: OK, I just re-sent after the changes you typed. Look any better? :)
15:55 nengard    i'm not finding it - but it must have been reported
15:55 nengard    anyone know of a bug report about emails not going to the librarian when a hold is placed?
15:53 cait       the first line of your patch message: From: koha <koha@smfpl.org>
15:53 cait       try that: git config --global user.name "<name>" git config --global user.email "<email>"
15:53 Drl-Ulm    cait: what is the line. My name came through but some other line?
15:52 cait       but the line is still in the patch
15:52 cait       it looks better
15:52 Drl-Ulm    OK, I just sent them again, that *should* fix it w/ my name and all
15:50 Barc       Yeah, its a little confusing, isn't it!
15:50 nengard    Barc i've been told that they are the same and that the queue shouldn't used that the pull list is better ... or is more efficient - or something
15:49 Drl-Ulm    cait: Ok you saw them. It is this exim4, fun to configure! :)
15:49 cait       I think it's one of those git settings I did at the beginning
15:49 Barc       Hey -  settle a bet!? Difference between Holds Queuel and Pull List? Should there be the same items on both list?
15:49 cait       but I think you should change that, becase this way your name will not appear on the list, only koha
15:49 Drl-Ulm    nengard: yep been doing that
15:49 cait       2 patches came through
15:48 nengard    you should also attach patches to bugs and change the status to 'patch-sent' on them
15:48 Drl-Ulm    cait: So you saw it come across to the actual patch newsgroup? I just sent them so they should go.
15:48 nengard    drl-ulm you might want to change the name to yours - but i did get the emails :)
15:48 Drl-Ulm    hdl: I think he figured it out, the email has 2 headers
15:47 Drl-Ulm    hdl: I was talking to jcamins
15:47 cait       perhaps change that?
15:47 cait       your patch reads: From: koha <koha@smfpl.org>
15:47 wizzyrea   cool, thanks for the info on that :)
15:46 Drl-Ulm    Ok, it is something with registration auth. I just sent 2 to the patch email
15:46 jcamins    Drl-Ulm: that did it.
15:46 jcamins    Okay.
15:46 hdl        jcamins: I just did NOTHING ;)
15:46 jcamins    hdl: did you just manually release Drl-Ulm's patch?
15:45 cait       briceSanc: we  did that for our library, koha has only 7 numbers, the real barcode is eight, the barcode scanner checks the last digit, but does not deliver it
15:45 sekjal     the existing filters only change the barcodes that match criteria
15:45 sekjal     wizzyrea:  once the filter is selected, yes, it can be programmed to do whatever you like
15:45 wizzyrea   probalby could be told to do it either way, I suppose.
15:44 wizzyrea   question about that, sekjal: it does it for all barcodes or only ones that match the criteria?
15:44 cait       not to deliver the last number
15:44 cait       brice_
15:44 cait       briceSanc: can't you reprogram your scanner?
15:44 sekjal     you'll also need to modify the barcode filter system preference to so the new filter's name (whatever you want to call it) is an option in the Sys Pref editor
15:43 sekjal     function barcodedecode
15:43 briceSanc  ok
15:42 sekjal     briceSanc:  look at Circulation.pm, around line 118
15:42 briceSanc  in C4/Barcodes ?
15:42 briceSanc  sekjal, yes !
15:41 hdl        Drl-Ulm: ?
15:41 hdl        What is it telling you ?
15:41 sekjal     briceSanc:  you'll need to write a custom barcode filter
15:40 chris_n    hey hdl, Drl-Ulm seems to have some problems with patches email
15:40 briceSanc  i've a barcode problem, i have a book name 'X19713929' (UQAM barcode format). When i scan it, the scanner return the text '01971392x' and the old SIGB can find the book with recalculating 01971392x to X19713929, How can i do the same calculation in Koha ?
15:40 hdl        what's up ?
15:40 hdl        thx
15:40 hdl        hi jcamins....
15:40 * jcamins  gives hdl the three cookies he was promised
15:39 hdl        i am not on your back.
15:39 paul_p     tada ! /me is a BIG MAGICIAN ! I make ppl appear on the channel :D
15:39 Drl-Ulm    hdl: what am I doing wrong on the git send-email?
15:39 Drl-Ulm    Hello
15:38 * paul_p   tries to make hdl appear :D
15:38 * paul_p   sees hdl is called.
15:36 Drl-Ulm    I am bamboozled!
15:36 briceSanc  hello
15:34 Drl-Ulm    Although when I git send-email to myself it works fine
15:34 Drl-Ulm    ok I just created a koha user on the google domain. Perhaps the mail relay bounces it if the CC is no good
15:32 Drl-Ulm    Still it worked before (some while ago)
15:32 Drl-Ulm    Yeah it does and my machine is called "koha" (imagine that) so it CCs to koha@smfpl.org
15:32 jcamins    wizzyrea: what I wanted to ask you before was, is there any page with the system requirements for Koha on the website?
15:32 Nate       hey sekjal
15:31 chris_n    but I think that git send-email automatically cc's the sender's address
15:31 jcamins    Drl-Ulm: sorry, I tried summoning hdl with no luck. ;)
15:31 Drl-Ulm    dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
15:30 Drl-Ulm    Yes, I can do that
15:30 chris_n    you could test by omitting the cc
15:30 Drl-Ulm    Ha, I got you. Well what could I be doing wrong? Could a cc: to a different address goof it up?
15:30 jcamins    :)
15:30 jcamins    hdl hdl hdl <-- cookie cookie cookie
15:30 sekjal     morning, Nate
15:30 chris_n    his nick is hdl
15:30 chris_n    they handle the listserver
15:29 chris_n    of Biblibre
15:29 chris_n    Drl-Ulm:  Henri-Damien
15:29 Drl-Ulm    You mean High-density lipoprotein = hdl
15:29 cait       but better try it with 3 cookies
15:29 cait       you can try :)
15:29 jcamins    Think I could summon hdl by saying his name three times?
15:29 Nate       hiya chris_n and rhcl
15:28 rhcl       hi nate
15:28 Drl-Ulm    chris_n hdl ?
15:28 chris_n    yup, that would be hdl
15:28 nengard    anyone who knows about setting up git to send patches probably can help
15:28 Drl-Ulm    I submit patches to koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org but they do not go through --- yep, I am and have been a subscriber
15:27 chris_n    heya Nate
15:27 Nate       Morning Everyone
15:27 chris_n    Drl-Ulm: that would be hdl iirc
15:26 Drl-Ulm    And or Galen? :)
15:26 Drl-Ulm    Hello, question for patches news group maintainer ?
15:21 SJeffery   Oh, and 669080236 is the analytic for that earlier parent:D
15:20 reva       jcamins, I had demo tested Evergreen, Koha, Open Biblio. Open Biblio is too basic for them to use when they move to the Regional Information Network (CROSQ under CARICOM).
15:19 SJeffery   Something like that. Fridays mornings are our most busy time, go figure it is when any outages tend to happen.
15:18 jcamins    SJeffery: getting a jump on next week, are you?
15:17 reva       jcamins, I will tell that to my counterpart, I can see her chuckling. I have told her to establish contacts with the government IT department people. You know they cannot do less than that if they want to manage their library. In fact, Koha is more user friendly; Evergreen is for institutions with cataloging department and technical processing staff.
15:16 SJeffery   Friday morning and everything at the office is not working, go figure.
15:16 jcamins    More generally, I'm thinking that my predecessors should be ashamed of themselves, but I'm pretty sure I answered your question the first time.
15:14 jcamins    Looks good.
15:14 wizzyrea   thoughts?
15:14 pastebot   "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "crontab section of install.debian" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/78
15:14 chris_n    anyhow, back to tearing out hair and such
15:13 chris_n    for some reason it has gone to making root the owner of everybody's files on a general use network share :-P
15:13 jcamins    chris_n: another good reason for fist shaking.
15:12 munin      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #97 added.
15:12 wizzyrea   @quote add chris_n shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond
15:12 * chris_n  waves back at LBA
15:12 chris_n    jcamins: no, rather trying to fix my samba file server
15:12 * LBA      waves howdy
15:11 jcamins    chris_n: so are you working on your Win32 Koha installation?
15:09 chris_n    cait: * chris_n shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond
15:09 jcamins    Hello.
15:09 cait       hi all :)
15:09 cait       ?
15:09 jcamins    It's not Tuesday...
15:09 chris_n    exist
15:09 jcamins    chris_n: what did they do this time?
15:08 jcamins    reva: I think the staff at the Standards Bureau is going to have so much work to do to maintain Koha that they're not going to have the opportunity to do anything with standards!
15:08 * chris_n  shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond
15:07 reva       yeah, sekjal, that is if they are not showing a movie you have not seen during flight:). Thanks I will cut and past the instructions on crontab for the people here anyway. I am collecting odd and unrelated bits of fixes in a file.
15:07 wizzyrea   well, and it implies a dev install
15:07 jcamins    I've got them on the list! They'll none of them be missed, they'll none of them be missed!
15:07 * wizzyrea puts it on the list
15:06 sekjal     ah, I see
15:06 wizzyrea   http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/cronjobs/crontab.example;h=33845a80a208a1f51908543725f977207ba48f8b;hb=HEAD
15:06 wizzyrea   not so much out of date, just kind of detached from reality
15:05 sekjal     wizzyrea: yeah, I imagine it's pretty out of date; I don't recall any updates to it in a while
15:05 wizzyrea   it's soul is in the right place.
15:05 wizzyrea   blerg, crontab.example needs some srs help.
15:05 sekjal     maybe it can be a plane-project
15:04 sekjal     reva: I wish I could crank it out by then, but I'll be at KohaCon for a couple weeks between then and now
15:04 reva       ok, can you do that befor I leave the post here (November 18th)?:) (Just kidding; as I know it would take a lot of testing and all from Mizst's comment in his page.)
15:03 reva       What he said is at the bottom of this page: http://mizstik.com/projects/koha-livecd/
15:02 sekjal     reva: definitely
15:01 reva       sekjal, when you build your own with Debian with 3.2, let us know. I was not able to install the 3.2 on the Debian as instructed. So we could use that instead. I had asked the Live CD developer to give instructions for making update to the 3.0.6.
14:43 wizzyrea   never mind. I see what he did here.
14:41 munin      moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 17.6�C (9:50 AM CDT on October 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.01 in 982.3 hPa (Steady).
14:41 moodaepo   @wunder 56001
14:41 jcamins    So, yeah, it should be explicit.
14:41 jcamins    Actually, there's no group wheel under Debian, either.
14:40 jcamins    That assumption is gone.
14:40 jcamins    wizzyrea: the assumption used to be that you were in group wheel, and there was a note that you had to change to kohauser for the zebra stuff.
14:40 wizzyrea   (would certainly avoid several common issues, if we did)
14:39 wizzyrea   I'm wondering if we need/want to make that explicit.
14:39 wizzyrea   is the assumption in the install docs that the logged in user is your koha user?
14:39 sekjal     reva: good!  I've been meaning to pull the Live CD, and give it a whirl.  Or I may mix my own off a fresh Debian install. I just like the idea of having a Koha appliance I can beat into pieces, then load fresh again
14:37 reva       sekjal, what I meant was I shut down my Koha/VirtualBox and restarted and it is now ok--i.e., not showing the deleted records. (When I am just editing records it rebuilds the index almost instantaneously though).
14:34 reva       Great I did not have to do any of that, sekjal. (And readme text file got corrupted because one of the trainees had saved a Raw MARC record into it by mistake.) relief!
14:31 reva       Ok, will do that. No I shut down the VirtualBox (where my Koha appliance is) and when I search on the OPAC, it does not show the deleted record. :) I did not create any crontab file. So there is a considerable time lag between deleting records and the effect showing up in search results.
14:27 sekjal     reva: if you haven't added any cron jobs before, the file would be blank.  You can add the lines from misc/cronjobs/crontab.example to get started
14:27 reva       sekjalsekjal, no luck. I am on a Live CD set up. There is only one user set up in the Ubuntu server which has the Koha set up. when I type the command crontab -e on the command line it creates a new file for me to edit.
14:26 wizzyrea   or something
14:26 wizzyrea   I"ll send the patch with the full modified instructions attached
14:25 wizzyrea   hmm. Here's what I'll do I think
14:25 sekjal     hopefully by Tuesday, but...
14:25 sekjal     wizzyrea:  sure thing... but I can't guarantee how quickly I can get to them
14:24 wizzyrea   can I send you these instructions sekjal to try them by fire before I send them in?
14:24 jcamins    I'm in the middle of importing MARC records.
14:24 jcamins    Oh, I just remembered why I found out about the missing package.
14:24 wizzyrea   ooo
14:24 sekjal     when I get some time, I'm going to try it, too
14:23 jcamins    :)
14:23 wizzyrea   I am about to
14:23 jcamins    Does anyone have a clean installation of Debian with Koha installed from the package?
14:22 wizzyrea   it wasn't in the list, fwiw
14:22 jcamins    But it's not installed by the package, either, which means that I should probably report a bug.
14:22 jcamins    Yeah, I know. That's the one that isn't installed by apt-get-debian-lenny.sh.
14:21 * wizzyrea gives debian a big hug
14:21 * wizzyrea loves debian
14:21 wizzyrea   well there is a perl-doc package...
14:20 jcamins    Maybe it's installed by perl-modules?
14:20 jcamins    No.
14:20 * jcamins  is looking
14:19 jcamins    I wonder, does the package install perl-doc?
14:19 wizzyrea   they're harmless but unnecessary
14:19 wizzyrea   I've also removed the dupes from that script (apt-get-debian-lenny.sh)
14:19 wizzyrea   ooh
14:18 * jcamins  sends wizzyrea some coconut fudge
14:18 jcamins    Yay!
14:18 wizzyrea   I can do that too, sure
14:18 Barc       export EDITOR=nano then crontab -e will open it in nano
14:17 jcamins    wizzyrea: if you're currently working on a patch for apt-get-debian-lenny.sh, any chance you could just add perl-doc to the list?
14:17 jcamins    wizzyrea++
14:17 jcamins    Yay!
14:16 sekjal     if you run crontab -e from the command line as the koha user, you'll open up the cron file in vi (most likely), and be able to update it there
14:16 wizzyrea   section*
14:16 wizzyrea   yup I'm just about to embark on that sections
14:16 reva       sekjal, but being able to use vi is one thing, but knowing the syntax and semantics of the cryptic commands to edit into crontab is another. Sigh:(
14:16 jcamins    Or something like that.
14:16 jcamins    It should be 5.1(a)-5.2(a) and 5.1(b)-5.2(b)
14:16 wizzyrea   oh, you mean the zebra stuff
14:16 jcamins    wizzyrea: there's step 5, then 1.1, 1.2, 1.1, and 1.2 again.
14:15 wizzyrea   I can do that!
14:15 kf         bye all :)
14:15 gmcharlt   wizzyrea: maybe add a link to the Apache vhost documentation?
14:15 sekjal     reva:  cool, you've got one up on me.  I prefer nano
14:15 wizzyrea   )
14:15 wizzyrea   (but sure.
14:15 wizzyrea   :)
14:15 wizzyrea   specifics, plox
14:15 reva       sekjal, I can use vi. :)
14:14 jcamins    wizzyrea: ooh, while you're updating them, any chance you could fix the numbering?
14:14 pastebot   "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "apache2 note" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/77
14:14 gmcharlt   jcamins: you can browse the files on git.koha-community.org and download the 'blob' of the file you're interested in
14:14 wizzyrea   i'm looking at the install documentation, does this make sense?
14:14 reva       ok, actually I made a little mistake; I went into root and when I did the crontab -e it put up a new file to edit. I closed the terminal. (I noticed the readme.txt for my Koha Live CD on my desktop is now not proper text file anymore.)
14:14 gmcharlt   noted
14:14 jcamins    Is there any way to pull the latest version of a single file only?
14:13 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3597 blocker, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, "Delete all items" doesn't check issues
14:13 jwagner    gmcharlt, note my update on Bug 3597
14:13 sekjal     reva: do you use vi, vim or nano at all?
14:11 jcamins    reva: no, you follow sekjal's instructions and run crontab -e
14:11 reva       jcamins thanks, can i open the cron tab with gedit? meaning is it to be opened with a text editor?
14:09 sekjal     thanks, jcamins... sorry, reva, I was afk
14:09 jcamins    reva: http://www.unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html
14:09 reva       I see the crontab file. is it to be opened with a text editor?
14:07 jcamins    (I didn't do a clean install, I just discovered that perl-doc is missing on my previous install)
14:07 jcamins    I don't think it's been added yet.
14:06 wizzyrea   you add that one then ;)
14:06 wizzyrea   ooo
14:06 jcamins    perl-doc
14:06 jcamins    Nope.
14:06 wizzyrea   and good morning
14:06 wizzyrea   )
14:06 wizzyrea   yup, I'm working on getting that added now (you are referring to Business::ISBN?"
14:06 jcamins    We are missing a Debian package.
14:06 jcamins    Ooh!
14:05 reva       sekjal, is it supposed to open a brand new file? it is not giving me an existing crontab file to edit. (I am sorry for asking basic questions.)
14:04 kf         no problem
14:04 cyrixbmx   thanks :)
14:03 kf         it's fuzzy
14:03 cyrixbmx   ok I find
14:03 cyrixbmx   in files : fr-CA-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po
14:03 cyrixbmx   msgstr "Catalogage"
14:03 cyrixbmx   msgid "Fast Cataloging"
14:03 cyrixbmx   #, fuzzy
14:03 cyrixbmx   #: /home/chris/git/koha.git/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/circ/circulation-home.tmpl:13
14:02 cyrixbmx   msgid "Fast Cataloging"
14:02 cyrixbmx   #: /home/chris/git/koha.git/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/circ/circulation-home.tmpl:13
14:02 cyrixbmx   this term is not traduct in the intranet interface.
14:01 kf         there can be a lot of reasons
14:01 kf         cyricbmx: do you have an example?
13:55 cyrixbmx   why some words do not translate into koha while the translation exists in the file. po?
13:55 reva       ok, sekjal, I will try it and report/ask questions. Thanks.
13:54 sekjal     reva: to access the cron jobs, I run the command 'crontab -e' as the koha user.  that'll open up your editor of choice, and can add/update the jobs as you like
13:53 reva       let me see if shutting and restarting koha does it by itself before doing any of this. Also, is crontab a file I can edit to include the lines you have given?
13:52 sekjal     you'll want to adjust that frequency depending on the available resources on your machine.
13:51 sekjal     reva: yes, you should have a line in your crontab to run rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z, and that should happen every 1 to 10 minutes
13:50 jcamins    reva: that depends how you have it set up, but probably.
13:50 reva       jcamins, is it just a matter of time before zebra rebuilds the index (so that I do not have to mess with it; because my search results have been ok so far.)
13:48 reva       ok, will try. Thanks again jcamins.:)
13:47 jcamins    I am sure if you Google it, you will be able to find instructions on how to use it.
13:47 jcamins    reva: cron is a standard utility in Linux.
13:46 reva       jcamins, step by step please.
13:45 reva       thanks jcamins, but, what is setting up cron job under kohauser?
13:44 sekjal     morning, jcamins!
13:44 jcamins    Good morning, sekjal
13:40 jcamins    reva: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#20
13:40 votanavor  Thanks jcamins and gmcharlt.  Very helpful info.
13:39 reva       Hi anyone, is there a way to have the deleted records not show in the search list in OPAC. Right now, it shows up, and when you click the link, it goes to Error 404 message.
13:36 jcamins    IRC nicknames aren't like user accounts.
13:35 jcamins    Just change your nickname to what it was before.
13:35 mib_4bp7l  Does it give me an option to log in again (on a different occasion) with the old nickname?
13:34 jcamins    mib_4bp7l: mibbit probably gives you some option to change your nickname.
13:34 mib_4bp7l  How do I log in again under the same nickname?
13:34 jcamins    wizzyrea: do we have a FAQ on system requirements for Koha? I can't find it.
13:34 jcamins    wizzyrea wizzyrea wizzyrea (testing whether saying her name three times will summon her)
13:33 jcamins    mib_4bp7l: you probably should not run Koha under Windows, but if you have a Linux server, you can use the client under any operating system you want (the client just runs in a web browser).
13:31 mib_4bp7l  Got logged out: how do I get back to the chat about System requirements.  Does Z39.50 client for downloading bibliographic records  work on Windows?
13:26 jcamins    It doesn't matter what operating system you run the client under, though, since it runs in a web browser.
13:25 gmcharlt   votanavor: it works fine in current versions of Koha, but note that Koha for Windows is a pretty ancient version; if you can use Linux as the OS for the Koha installation, that would work better
13:25 jcamins    votanavor: you should not run Koha on Windows.
13:24 votanavor  "Z39.50 client for downloading bibliographic records does not work on Windows" according to a document dated 2005.  Is this still true or can I download MARC records?
13:19 gmcharlt   votanavor: for that small a collection, Koha's requirements are modest; any PC built in the last 3-4 years would handle it comfortable as long is it can install Debian or the like
13:18 kf         good morning jcamins :)
13:16 jcamins    Good morning, #koha
13:15 votanavor  At this point only 11,000 volumes, but we hope to begin adding again.
13:14 gmcharlt   votanavor: how large is your collectin?
13:09 votanavor  Searching for a shareware/freeware program and wondering about koha's hardware requirements.  We are a small library in a developing country.
12:36 munin      chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 13.7�C (8:41 AM EDT on October 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady).
12:36 chris_n    @wunder 28334
12:36 chris_n    vacation++
12:35 kf         time for my vacation
12:35 munin      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.1�C (2:44 PM CEST on October 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
12:35 kf         @wunder Konstanz
12:35 munin      kf: Error: No such location could be found.
12:35 kf         @wunder Konsatnz
12:33 kf         oh, forgt to scroll down
12:33 kf         chris_n: I think it has always been like that - that's why we use the digest where you can use <<count>>
12:22 magnus     quite similar - perhaps chris_n was onto something...
12:18 munin      gmcharlt: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (1:00 AM NZDT on October 09, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Falling).
12:18 gmcharlt   @wunder wunder wellington, new zealand
12:15 magnus     wunder wellington, new zealand
12:15 magnus     wunder wellington new zealand
12:15 munin      magnus: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 13.0�C (2:00 PM CEST on October 08, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
12:15 magnus     @wunder bodo norway
12:14 chris_n    back to the drawing board
12:13 magnus     ah, that explains it, then
12:13 chris_n    talk about a bug
12:13 chris_n    HA!
12:13 * jwagner  puts on spell-checker hat :-)
12:13 jwagner    to New Zeland
12:13 jwagner    No, because chris_n sent mangus
12:13 magnus     no, the view looks pretty familiar... but then i have a feeling nz will look somewhat familiar, so who knows?
12:12 magnus     um, lemme check
12:11 * chris_n  wonders if magnus is now in nz-land
12:11 chris_n    $teleport->(person => 'mangus', destination => 'New Zeland');
12:10 magnus     :-)
12:10 jwagner    As someone who loves to travel but hates to fly, I can definitely agree with you, magnus :-)
12:07 magnus     ooh, teleportation would be so cool, especially if it was finnished within the next week
12:07 chris_n    hehe
12:07 gmcharlt   chris_n: humansnack 1 dz cookies?
12:07 * jwagner  makes a mental note to bake cookies
12:06 chris_n    sorry folks, the cookie supply has slowed down and so has my motive to work on those features ;-)
12:06 jwagner    And what about teleportation?
12:06 gmcharlt   hey - not so fast - chris_n is supposed to finish warp drive for me first!
12:06 chris_n    lol
12:05 * jwagner  will loan it when chris_n finishes that cloning module he's been working on.
12:05 * chris_n  wants to borrow that cap sometime :)
12:05 jwagner    As long as we know it's there, it's not a problem.  It was just a surprise on a brand new install :-)
12:05 jwagner    That was probably the original idea (putting on my time-travel cap to see into the past).
12:04 gmcharlt   jwagner: and if nothing else, it means that somebody installing Koha out of the box will be able to test circulation right away
12:04 jwagner    I don't think so either, as long as we know it's there.
12:04 paul_p     (and it was considered as a feature -a mistake, I agree-)
12:04 * chris_n  will open a bug for it and fix it
12:04 paul_p     jwagner, I think so, but it will be only for 3.4 If you think it's needed for 3.2, then file a bug. But everybody lives with this since years, so I don't think it must be fixed urgently
12:04 chris_n    seems a bit much
12:04 gmcharlt   per patron, I would think - why spam their inboxes?
12:04 chris_n    a patron with 10 items receives 10 notices as it stands presently
12:03 * chris_n  wonders if the advanced item due notice should really be generating per item notices rather than per patron notices?
12:03 jwagner    So I don't need to open a bug report on it -- it's already in process?
12:02 paul_p     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/RFCs_for_Koha_3.4#Circulation
12:01 paul_p     jwagner, afaik, we have removed it in our 3.2-4 version (I mean it has been removes by our stuff done on issuing rules management)
12:01 chris_n    hardcoded foo is bad
12:01 chris_n    jwagner: I think so
11:58 jwagner    Yes, that line is still there in current head.  Should it be removed?
11:55 jwagner    OK, I'll take a look there.  Thanks much!
11:54 paul_p     yep, in C4/Circulation.pm
11:54 paul_p     (default set to 21 => default hardcoded to 21)
11:54 jwagner    You mean hardcoded somewhere?
11:54 paul_p     jwagner, hello. In old versions, there was a default set to 21 iirc. I thought is has been removed, but maybe not
11:53 jwagner    A puzzlement -- a new site has no circ rules set up anywhere, but items are checking out with a three-week duedate anyway.  ceilingDueDate syspref is not set.  What else could be allowing checkouts like this?
11:41 jwagner    I've never been to LA, but I hear it's even worse.  Guess I can be thankful I don't live there :-)
11:41 gmcharlt   same thing in Chicago
11:40 jwagner    There are some proposals out for some cross-suburb rail lines now, but they've been studying those for years.  Probably won't get built until long after I've retired.
11:39 magnus     nah, why would you want that? ;-)
11:36 jwagner    The original DC Metro system (subway, not the busses) was designed to move people from the suburbs to downtown DC.  It doesn't seem to have ever crossed anyone's mind that people might like to go from one suburb to another....
11:33 jwagner    Not necessarily, given some of the crime problems on metro lately.  Also, it would take twice as long to get from home to the office by public transit as it does to drive, even with rush hour traffic.  "You can't get there from here."
11:33 gmcharlt   jwagner: surely sleep-Metro-riding is safer?
11:30 magnus     i betcha
11:29 jwagner    Although I do frequently work from home.  It's a nice option to have.
11:29 * jwagner  is jealous
11:28 magnus     and it makes me glad i don't have to commute... ;-)
11:28 magnus     yeah, sure
11:27 jwagner    You've heard of sleep-driving, right?  Similar to sleep-walking?
11:26 magnus     hehe
11:24 * jwagner  notes that just because I'm in the office at this hour does NOT mean I'm awake!
11:24 jwagner    Out to beat the DC rush hour traffic :-(
11:23 magnus     early birds, out to get the worm? ;-)
11:23 jwagner    Hi magnus
11:22 nengard    howdy magnus
11:21 magnus     g'day jwagner and nengard
10:31 magnus     https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/ signing up here will give you the associate tag you need for AmazonAssocTag
10:30 magnus     Secret Access Key = syspref AWSPrivateKey
10:30 magnus     Access Key ID = syspref AWSAccessKeyID
10:29 magnus     you have to sign up for their associate programme, i think
10:29 magnus     AmazonAssocTag is if you want to earn money from referrals
10:29 magnus     dritan: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/index.php?ch=c19#AEN1126
10:27 dritan     help?????????????????
10:27 dritan     but not AmazonAssocTag
10:26 dritan     and Secret Access Key
10:26 dritan     i see only Access Key ID
10:24 dritan     i have created e amazon acount
10:24 dritan     does any body know witch is AmazonAssocTag
09:09 kf         that's ok - I will write an enhancement request
09:08 magnus     kf: :-) i never looked much at those options before, so i'm not much help i'm afraid...
09:08 kf         magnus: hmpf :)
09:05 ivanc      guten morgen kf
09:05 kf         hi ivanc
09:04 kf         what I miss is a limit from the coded fields, you can limit to filmographies but not to serials?
09:04 kf         and you will only find serials with items
09:04 kf         they use collections in advanced search...
09:03 magnus     kf: can't you limit by any and all item types in advanced search?
09:02 ivanc      hi magnus
09:02 magnus     hi ivanc
08:56 ivanc      hi #koha
08:39 kf         Or am I only not seeing it?
08:38 kf         why is there no option to limit search to serials?
08:03 jai        okey kf
07:58 kf         jai: sorry jai - sounds like a bug
07:52 jai        it was in databases.
07:52 jai        yes i checked
07:35 kf         you can check if your suggestion was saved to the database in the table suggestions
07:34 kf         sorry, I don't understand
07:23 jai        how in a module fetch  value from database
07:21 kf         so I can't check
07:21 kf         I am sorry, I have no test installation for this version
07:19 jai        3.00.06.010
07:17 jai        3.00.006
07:17 kf         which version are u using?
07:17 kf         weird
07:11 jai        in intranet i can see "1 pending suggestion " , but when i click the manage suggestion , that wont list the purchase suggestion send by patron
07:09 jai        but cant see at intranet
07:09 jai        i can see the purchase suggestion in my patron accoutn
07:07 kf         and you can't see the purchase suggestion in the patron account either?
07:07 jai        , when i click the button manage suggestion that show the msg like  "No pending suggestion"
07:06 jai        i send  purchase suggestion from opac , but that wont seems in intranet staff client
07:05 jai        hi kf
07:05 jai        hi amit
07:04 jai        me
07:04 jai        any one help
07:04 Amit       heya kf
07:04 jai        i have doubt in managing suggesion.
07:04 kf         hi Amit, hi jai
07:03 jai        hi
07:03 Amit       heya jai
07:00 kf         hi magnus :)
06:59 magnus     guten tag, kf
06:59 kf         good morning #koha
06:53 magnus     g'day #koha
05:48 munin      wasabi: Quote #96: "< owen> If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really Koha." (added by wasabi at 01:56 AM, October 08, 2010)
05:48 wasabi     @quote get 96
05:48 wasabi     aaah, i got it....
05:37 munin      wasabi: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
05:37 wasabi     @quote add < owen> If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really Koha.
05:32 cait       morning #koha
05:27 wasabi     how do i register?
05:25 wasabi     wha?
05:23 munin      wasabi: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
05:23 wasabi     @quote add < owen> If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really Koha.
05:23 wasabi     "If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really #koha."
05:23 wasabi     i like owen's twitter
04:57 sekjal     chris: thanks for the book recommendation. I'm really enjoying it so far, and feeling a little more prepared for the Levin trip
04:07 Amit       heya chris
04:02 schuster   brendan here?
02:46 munin      chris: A report number that is not a Standard Technical Report Number (field 027) (Repeatable) [a,z,6,8]
02:46 chris      @marc 088
02:12 chris      night chris_n
02:11 chris_n    g'night #koha peps