Time Nick Message 17:45 CGI341 ?? 17:44 CGI341 hello, is anybody to help me in koha 13:07 jcamins Good morning. In the unlikely event anyone was here, is it possible to use the koha-common utilities with a dev install? 08:10 chris no worries, spotya later 08:09 wasabi gotta scoot, thanks for listening 08:07 wasabi so , i have a little vent, and feel better! :) 08:07 wasabi anyhoo... this NZ trademark-stuff has made me a bit wound-up 08:06 wasabi read: by a team of people that ensure that more than half the urls on the home-page arent busted 08:04 chris ahh yeah, actually kept up to date 08:04 chris admined? 08:04 wasabi (which is actually admined) 08:03 wasabi welll.. at least point it to kc.org - as a start! 08:02 chris it is the smart thing to do 08:02 wasabi i would, if i was a CEO... in a similar position... 08:02 chris we live in hope :) 08:01 wasabi or they could be great - and give koha.org to HLT 08:00 wasabi perhaps a snappy sale to SCO, of koha.org 07:59 larsw done 07:58 wasabi ... which will happen after the kc.org rank increase 07:58 larsw hey, that's a thing I can do for Koha, I can add a link to koha-community.org 07:58 wasabi will be interesting to see if PTFS stick around after their koha.org google-analystics-graphs start going down 07:58 chris sweet nice and close 07:57 larsw yeah 07:57 chris the one on manners? 07:57 chris ahh cool 07:56 larsw chris, we've had a few shirts made at the place next to Subway; the guy there is a bit weird, but the shirts were ok and the price was cheap 07:54 chris there is a place in courtenay central that can whack up tshirts pretty fast, i should get some designs made 07:53 wasabi busy indeed! 07:53 wasabi as is the NZ 'koha' trademark attempt 07:52 larsw wasabi, agree 07:52 wasabi .. and an old and sleazy trick :/ 07:52 chris http://www.cafepress.com/justobey.407428972 07:51 chris oohhh good idea 07:51 larsw chris, there's time for making t-shirts for kohacon... *hmmm* :) 07:51 wasabi registering DNS-variants of the officially-elected koha website - and then dev-nulling them, is deliberate 07:50 chris that'd be a good tshirt 07:50 chris heh 07:49 larsw "Koha: it's not business, it's personal" 07:48 wasabi oops s/business/busyness/ 07:46 larsw I need to invent a time machine and go back and re-design humans to not be so nasty 07:46 larsw *sigh* 07:45 chris yeah someone was told that when they asked why they couldnt just use koha not harley 07:44 larsw Koha code is toxic? que? 07:44 chris nope 07:43 wasabi well, this situation of PTFS is *not* just business 07:42 wasabi ahh, i have yet to meet many yet 07:42 chris "they have too much to do" etc 07:42 chris wasabi: yeah not so much them, they usually listen, its the ones that defend ptfs 07:41 wasabi theres still a bunch of people that hit koha.org 1st, and wander into here, and the mailing-lists.. 07:41 chris http://www.pennmanor.net/techblog/?p=517 07:41 chris some good news 07:40 chris yup 07:40 wasabi .. once the kc-.org ranking moves up to 1st, the problem should stop, i reckon 07:39 wasabi well.... 07:38 chris yeah, what bothers me, is that usually sensible people still dont seem to get it, ptfs arent friends to koha, they are working their best to mess it up. Its just that the community wont let that happen that is stoping it 07:37 wasabi visionary leadership 07:36 wasabi what a strange game, they play 07:35 wasabi wow, so they have.. 07:32 chris i 07:32 chris sent to your gmal 07:30 chris 2 secs 07:30 chris http://blog.bssd.org/mu/aklibrarian1/2010/08/26/koha-at-ala/ 07:29 wasabi lol, thats cute.. 07:29 wasabi what was the new logo? 07:28 wasabi heh, thats funny 07:28 wasabi ahh.. 07:28 chris wasabi: happened at ala 07:28 chris meanwhile still taking bugfixes, advice and help 07:28 wasabi wow, thats a new one?!? 07:28 chris even things as simple as calling it KOHA, and changing the logo 07:27 chris yes, it is, they are working all sorts of angles, trademark attacks, domainames, kohails.com etc, lying blatantly about HLT, saying that Koha code is 'toxic' and to use Harley, and on and on 07:25 wasabi its that simple... 07:25 wasabi to me, the PTFS are aggressively sabotaging the project 07:21 chris yeah, it really is 07:20 wasabi id like to write an email to the koha-list about this, this stuff is just unacceptable 07:15 chris their apologists need to stop apologising for them, and force them to change their behaviour 07:14 chris they are still openly hostile 07:14 chris kohacommunity.org too 06:47 wasabi ... i guess they registered the DNS names to sabotage the success of the k-c.org website, so sad :( 06:44 wasabi its a pity PTFS's haven't got round to pointing them to a useful website yet 06:42 wasabi hmmm, i just clicked that PTFS have registered koha-community.net and koha-community.com, nice....