Time  Nick    Message
17:45 CGI341  ??
17:44 CGI341  hello, is anybody to help me in koha
13:07 jcamins Good morning. In the unlikely event anyone was here, is it possible to use the koha-common utilities with a dev install?
08:10 chris   no worries, spotya later
08:09 wasabi  gotta scoot, thanks for listening
08:07 wasabi  so , i have a little vent, and feel better! :)
08:07 wasabi  anyhoo... this NZ trademark-stuff has made me a bit wound-up
08:06 wasabi  read: by a team of people that ensure that more than half the urls on the home-page arent busted
08:04 chris   ahh yeah, actually kept up to date
08:04 chris   admined?
08:04 wasabi  (which is actually admined)
08:03 wasabi  welll.. at least point it to kc.org - as a start!
08:02 chris   it is the smart thing to do
08:02 wasabi  i would, if i was a CEO...  in a similar position...
08:02 chris   we live in hope :)
08:01 wasabi  or they could be great - and give koha.org to HLT
08:00 wasabi  perhaps a snappy sale to SCO,  of koha.org
07:59 larsw   done
07:58 wasabi  ... which will happen after the kc.org rank increase
07:58 larsw   hey, that's a thing I can do for Koha, I can add a link to koha-community.org
07:58 wasabi  will be interesting to see if PTFS stick around after their koha.org  google-analystics-graphs start going down
07:58 chris   sweet nice and close
07:57 larsw   yeah
07:57 chris   the one on manners?
07:57 chris   ahh cool
07:56 larsw   chris, we've had a few shirts made at the place next to Subway; the guy there is a bit weird, but the shirts were ok and the price was cheap
07:54 chris   there is a place in courtenay central that can whack up tshirts pretty fast, i should get some designs made
07:53 wasabi  busy indeed!
07:53 wasabi  as is the NZ  'koha' trademark attempt
07:52 larsw   wasabi, agree
07:52 wasabi  .. and an old and sleazy trick :/
07:52 chris   http://www.cafepress.com/justobey.407428972
07:51 chris   oohhh good idea
07:51 larsw   chris, there's time for making t-shirts for kohacon... *hmmm* :)
07:51 wasabi  registering DNS-variants of the officially-elected koha website - and then dev-nulling them, is deliberate
07:50 chris   that'd be a good tshirt
07:50 chris   heh
07:49 larsw   "Koha: it's not business, it's personal"
07:48 wasabi  oops s/business/busyness/
07:46 larsw   I need to invent a time machine and go back and re-design humans to not be so nasty
07:46 larsw   *sigh*
07:45 chris   yeah someone was told that when they asked why they couldnt just use koha not harley
07:44 larsw   Koha code is toxic? que?
07:44 chris   nope
07:43 wasabi  well, this situation of PTFS is *not* just business
07:42 wasabi  ahh, i have yet to meet many yet
07:42 chris   "they have too much to do" etc
07:42 chris   wasabi: yeah not so much them, they usually listen, its the ones that defend ptfs
07:41 wasabi  theres still a bunch of people that hit koha.org 1st, and wander into here, and the mailing-lists..
07:41 chris   http://www.pennmanor.net/techblog/?p=517
07:41 chris   some good news
07:40 chris   yup
07:40 wasabi  .. once the kc-.org ranking moves up to 1st, the problem should stop, i reckon
07:39 wasabi  well....
07:38 chris   yeah, what bothers me, is that usually sensible people still dont seem to get it, ptfs arent friends to koha, they are working their best to mess it up. Its just that the community wont let that happen that is stoping it
07:37 wasabi  visionary leadership
07:36 wasabi  what a strange game, they play
07:35 wasabi  wow, so they have..
07:32 chris   i
07:32 chris   sent to your gmal
07:30 chris   2 secs
07:30 chris   http://blog.bssd.org/mu/aklibrarian1/2010/08/26/koha-at-ala/
07:29 wasabi  lol, thats cute..
07:29 wasabi  what was the new logo?
07:28 wasabi  heh, thats funny
07:28 wasabi  ahh..
07:28 chris   wasabi: happened at ala
07:28 chris   meanwhile still taking bugfixes, advice and help
07:28 wasabi  wow, thats a new one?!?
07:28 chris   even things as simple as calling it KOHA, and changing the logo
07:27 chris   yes, it is, they are working all sorts of angles, trademark attacks, domainames, kohails.com etc, lying blatantly about HLT, saying that Koha code is 'toxic' and to use Harley, and on and on
07:25 wasabi  its that simple...
07:25 wasabi  to me, the PTFS are aggressively sabotaging the project
07:21 chris   yeah, it really is
07:20 wasabi  id like to write an email to the koha-list about this, this stuff is just unacceptable
07:15 chris   their apologists need to stop apologising for them, and force them to change their behaviour
07:14 chris   they are still openly hostile
07:14 chris   kohacommunity.org too
06:47 wasabi  ... i guess they registered the DNS names to sabotage the success of the k-c.org website, so sad :(
06:44 wasabi  its a pity PTFS's haven't got round to pointing them to a useful website yet
06:42 wasabi  hmmm, i just clicked that PTFS have registered koha-community.net and koha-community.com, nice....