Time Nick Message 06:42 wasabi hmmm, i just clicked that PTFS have registered koha-community.net and koha-community.com, nice.... 06:44 wasabi its a pity PTFS's haven't got round to pointing them to a useful website yet 06:47 wasabi ... i guess they registered the DNS names to sabotage the success of the k-c.org website, so sad :( 07:14 chris kohacommunity.org too 07:14 chris they are still openly hostile 07:15 chris their apologists need to stop apologising for them, and force them to change their behaviour 07:20 wasabi id like to write an email to the koha-list about this, this stuff is just unacceptable 07:21 chris yeah, it really is 07:25 wasabi to me, the PTFS are aggressively sabotaging the project 07:25 wasabi its that simple... 07:27 chris yes, it is, they are working all sorts of angles, trademark attacks, domainames, kohails.com etc, lying blatantly about HLT, saying that Koha code is 'toxic' and to use Harley, and on and on 07:28 chris even things as simple as calling it KOHA, and changing the logo 07:28 wasabi wow, thats a new one?!? 07:28 chris meanwhile still taking bugfixes, advice and help 07:28 chris wasabi: happened at ala 07:28 wasabi ahh.. 07:28 wasabi heh, thats funny 07:29 wasabi what was the new logo? 07:29 wasabi lol, thats cute.. 07:30 chris http://blog.bssd.org/mu/aklibrarian1/2010/08/26/koha-at-ala/ 07:30 chris 2 secs 07:32 chris sent to your gmal 07:32 chris i 07:35 wasabi wow, so they have.. 07:36 wasabi what a strange game, they play 07:37 wasabi visionary leadership 07:38 chris yeah, what bothers me, is that usually sensible people still dont seem to get it, ptfs arent friends to koha, they are working their best to mess it up. Its just that the community wont let that happen that is stoping it 07:39 wasabi well.... 07:40 wasabi .. once the kc-.org ranking moves up to 1st, the problem should stop, i reckon 07:40 chris yup 07:41 chris some good news 07:41 chris http://www.pennmanor.net/techblog/?p=517 07:41 wasabi theres still a bunch of people that hit koha.org 1st, and wander into here, and the mailing-lists.. 07:42 chris wasabi: yeah not so much them, they usually listen, its the ones that defend ptfs 07:42 chris "they have too much to do" etc 07:42 wasabi ahh, i have yet to meet many yet 07:43 wasabi well, this situation of PTFS is *not* just business 07:44 chris nope 07:44 larsw Koha code is toxic? que? 07:45 chris yeah someone was told that when they asked why they couldnt just use koha not harley 07:46 larsw *sigh* 07:46 larsw I need to invent a time machine and go back and re-design humans to not be so nasty 07:48 wasabi oops s/business/busyness/ 07:49 larsw "Koha: it's not business, it's personal" 07:50 chris heh 07:50 chris that'd be a good tshirt 07:51 wasabi registering DNS-variants of the officially-elected koha website - and then dev-nulling them, is deliberate 07:51 larsw chris, there's time for making t-shirts for kohacon... *hmmm* :) 07:51 chris oohhh good idea 07:52 chris http://www.cafepress.com/justobey.407428972 07:52 wasabi .. and an old and sleazy trick :/ 07:52 larsw wasabi, agree 07:53 wasabi as is the NZ 'koha' trademark attempt 07:53 wasabi busy indeed! 07:54 chris there is a place in courtenay central that can whack up tshirts pretty fast, i should get some designs made 07:56 larsw chris, we've had a few shirts made at the place next to Subway; the guy there is a bit weird, but the shirts were ok and the price was cheap 07:57 chris ahh cool 07:57 chris the one on manners? 07:57 larsw yeah 07:58 chris sweet nice and close 07:58 wasabi will be interesting to see if PTFS stick around after their koha.org google-analystics-graphs start going down 07:58 larsw hey, that's a thing I can do for Koha, I can add a link to koha-community.org 07:58 wasabi ... which will happen after the kc.org rank increase 07:59 larsw done 08:00 wasabi perhaps a snappy sale to SCO, of koha.org 08:01 wasabi or they could be great - and give koha.org to HLT 08:02 chris we live in hope :) 08:02 wasabi i would, if i was a CEO... in a similar position... 08:02 chris it is the smart thing to do 08:03 wasabi welll.. at least point it to kc.org - as a start! 08:04 wasabi (which is actually admined) 08:04 chris admined? 08:04 chris ahh yeah, actually kept up to date 08:06 wasabi read: by a team of people that ensure that more than half the urls on the home-page arent busted 08:07 wasabi anyhoo... this NZ trademark-stuff has made me a bit wound-up 08:07 wasabi so , i have a little vent, and feel better! :) 08:09 wasabi gotta scoot, thanks for listening 08:10 chris no worries, spotya later 13:07 jcamins Good morning. In the unlikely event anyone was here, is it possible to use the koha-common utilities with a dev install? 17:44 CGI341 hello, is anybody to help me in koha 17:45 CGI341 ??