Time  Nick        Message
03:12 reva        hello, anyone up? I have a new question: does koha 3.00.06 print the constants for the 5xx tags with the correct indicators filled in?
03:18 reva        hello??
03:29 reva        hi, does Koha print the constants (such as Contents, Review, etc.) when proper first indicator (such 0, 3, 8, etc.) is filled in in the 5xx group of tags?
08:46 cait        morning #koha
08:51 chris       hi cait
08:51 cait        hi chris :)
08:51 cait        looking at your blog post right now
08:53 chris       hope it makes some sense
09:00 cait        chris: not sure I understand it all, but seems nginx is faster than apache
09:04 chris       well, it took apache2 356 seconds
09:04 chris       to serve 1000 responses
09:04 chris       nginx+plack did it in 17.45 seconds
09:04 chris       so yes, its fair to say faster
09:11 cait        :)
09:11 cait        want to work on my notices problems today
13:15 cait        hi wizzyrea_
13:17 jcamins_a   Hi cait
13:17 jcamins_a   :)
13:17 jcamins_a   And wizzyrea_
13:17 cait        hi jcamins
13:18 cait        did you bake something this weekend?
13:18 jcamins     Yes. I made (savoury) biscuits with parmesan and herbs, and a stove-top blueberry cobbler.
13:19 cait        *sighs*
13:19 cait        sounds delicious :)
13:20 jcamins     You could make the blueberry cobbler.
13:20 jcamins     It was very easy.
13:20 jcamins     No need for an oven. Just a burner.
13:20 cait        most things work in my small oven too
13:20 jcamins     True, but who wants a mini blueberry cobbler? ;)
13:20 cait        it's just a bit tiresome to make cookies, because you can't bake many at a time
13:20 cait        *laughs*
13:21 jcamins     Oh, yes, that makes sense. But you can eat lots of cookie dough!
13:21 cait        I am only one person, so better only have a mini blueberry cobbler
13:21 cait        true
13:22 cait        now i want cookie dough
13:23 * jcamins   is always happy to help :D
13:23 cait        happy to help or happy to torture me ;)
13:23 cait        but I asked...
13:23 jcamins     Yes you did.
13:24 cait        okok... :)
13:46 jcamins     Wow, chris's results are pretty impressive.
13:47 cait        yep
13:47 cait        hope some of his works gets into 3.4
13:49 jcamins     Koha should have a planet RSS aggregator.
13:50 jcamins     Like http://planet.code4lib.org/
13:55 cait        isn't there a generator?
13:55 cait        http://owu.towers.org.uk/planets/koha/
13:56 jcamins     Yay!
13:56 jcamins     Thanks.
13:57 jcamins     That's why I announced we needed one.
13:57 cait        hm?
13:58 jcamins     Because I figured if I did that, someone would tell me we had one.
13:58 cait        lol
13:58 cait        you owe me a cookie ;)
13:58 jcamins     I guess I do!
14:00 cait        perhaps we should rename karma to cookie :)
14:00 jcamins     That's a good idea.
14:15 cait        hi druthb
14:15 druthb      hi. :)
14:15 cait        good to see you, jcamins is torturing me with cookie talk :)
14:16 druthb      mmm...cooooookies.
14:16 druthb      I may have to bake some, now.  come share, cait?
14:16 cait        would love too, is the beamer ready?
14:17 druthb      :D
14:21 jcamins     druthb: what kind of cookies?
14:22 druthb      hm...I think I have everything for Basic Chocolate Chip.  Nothing fancy, just a good, reliable cookie.
14:22 jcamins     Mmm.
14:22 jcamins     Sound good to me.
14:22 jcamins     By the way, doesn't anyone take Sundays off?
14:22 druthb      I wish.
14:23 cait        I am not at work
14:23 jcamins     But you are on #koha.
14:27 imp         renaming karma to cookie is a bad idea - the op "@" is also a cookie ;)
14:27 jcamins     Heh.
14:28 cait        huh?
14:28 cait        jcamins: talking to you about cookies does hardly count as work ;)
14:28 jcamins     cait: true, but aren't you doing other work-y things too?
14:29 cait        I wish I would
15:58 jcamins     cait: do you submit patches to Koha from both your accounts?
15:58 cait        I submit patches I did at work from my work email
15:58 cait        and patches I wrote at home from my private email, not the perfect solution I know
15:58 jcamins     But that's allowed?
15:59 jcamins     Good.
15:59 cait        why should it now be allowed?
15:59 cait        now = not
15:59 jcamins     I have no idea why it wouldn't be allowed, but I also didn't want to send patches in from a different e-mail, and get everyone confused.
15:59 cait        hm... ok, that might be a reason
15:59 cait        but I can not send with my work mail from home
16:00 jcamins     But if you do it, then I guess no one minds.
16:00 cait        I did not have a dev installation at work for a long time
16:12 jcamins     Yay! I successfully updated koha to HEAD.
16:12 cait        grats :)
17:04 reva        Hi anyone, does Koha display the print constants for the 5xx tags. My version 3.00.06 does not. Do I have to turn anything "ON" for it to do that? Thanks.
17:06 jcamins     reva: I don't know.
17:06 cait        reva: you use xslt display?
17:06 cait        reva: I looked for the publication year patch - did not send it. will try to do it this week
17:11 reva        hi cait: I will look for it next week. thanks. Yes, I have. But the system constants such as Review,Contents are not displayed even with the appropriate first indicators..
17:12 reva        jcamins: the last part of that was the response to xslt display.
17:14 jcamins     
17:14 jcamins     
17:15 jcamins     Sorry about the gibberish.
17:15 jcamins     I froze screen.
17:15 cait        reva: in my experience xslt shows a bit more than the normal view. but if the print constants are missing I know no other place in configuration. so perhaps they are missing
17:15 jcamins     On 3.2 the print constants are there, but I don't use 3.0.x.
17:16 cait        ah
17:16 reva        thanks. Just wanted to make sure that I do not have to turn anything else on.
17:18 reva        jcamins: I guess it is ok as people can tell what information they are looking at without an accompanying lable.
17:18 reva        that is label.
17:18 jcamins     Also, when you upgrade to 3.2, that will take care of it. ;)
17:21 reva        Oh, that is good news jcamins:
17:22 jcamins     reva: just to confirm, you're looking for the labels on 505, etc. fields, not 500 fields, right?
17:25 jcamins     cait: you were right, adding a cover image to the XSLT works very nicely.
17:26 cait        cool :)
17:26 cait        dinner time, will be back in few minutes
17:26 jcamins     Enjoy.
17:46 cait        back
17:48 reva        jcamins: sorry, got interrupted by a skype call. Yes, I am looking to include system supplied print constants to fields in the 5xx group. I forget the exact tag number but it could be 505.
17:49 jcamins     Okay, yeah, it sounds like 3.0.6 doesn't have it.
17:49 jcamins     I just wanted to check that you weren't using a $i subfield with 500.
17:51 reva        :( but as you said whenI update to  3.2 it iwll be available. I will have to live without it. No, I only use $a with the general note 500.
20:17 wizzyrea_   so many chris_n's
20:19 jcamins     Hey, just to check that I'm not missing something... there isn't currently any "image gallery" feature for images of an item in Koha, right?
20:20 jcamins     And, hi, wizzyrea_
20:20 wizzyrea_   um, you can use amazon for that
20:20 wizzyrea_   or google images
20:20 wizzyrea_   but no, there's no koha specific repo of item images
20:20 jcamins     Yeah, for covers.
20:20 jcamins     I'm thinking about custom photographs associated with an image by the library.
20:21 wizzyrea_   oh, no, there is ntohing like that
20:21 wizzyrea_   nothing, even
20:21 wizzyrea_   that would be a neat feature though >.> wanna write it?
20:22 jcamins     wizzyrea_: what do you think I'm doing? :P
20:22 wizzyrea_   haha
20:23 wizzyrea_   well godspeed to you, good sir
20:23 jcamins     Actually, don't answer that.
20:23 * wizzyrea_ didn't even get to the part where she referenced "both hands on the keyboard, buddy"
20:23 wizzyrea_   it's like you can read my mind!
20:23 wizzyrea_   j/k j/k
20:23 jcamins     :)
20:25 jcamins     Oh my.
20:25 jcamins     opac-detail.pl is scary, isn't it?
20:25 chris       we did that in a cheap way
20:25 wizzyrea_   heh
20:25 wizzyrea_   oh hi chris
20:25 chris       all we did was name the images biblionumber.png
20:26 chris       eg 12334.png
20:26 chris       then it was a simple template change to use that image
20:26 jcamins     chris: yeah, I'm doing that too, but that only allows me one image.
20:26 chris       yup
20:27 chris       i reckon if you want more than that, you are getting into digital library/cms terrority and might be better off writing a tool to pull from that, rather than building it into koha
20:27 chris       just my 2cents
20:27 jcamins     chris: yeah, that had been my initial thought.
20:28 richard     hi
20:28 chris       hi richard
20:28 richard     hey chris
20:29 jcamins     Hi richard.
20:29 richard     hi jcamins
20:30 jcamins     chris: but my second thought was that if I want the images associated directly with the bib record, it should probably be in Koha.
20:30 chris       well you could have a permalink in the digital library, that you store in your marc record
20:30 jcamins     However, if you can suggest software suitable for digital libraries, I'm happy to figure out a way to make it play nicely.
20:30 chris       kete
20:31 jcamins     Cool, thanks.
20:31 chris       http://kete.net.nz/
20:31 chris       has the bonus of using zebra too
20:31 chris       so you can use pazpar2 to federate a search over both (as well as just use the images :))
20:31 jcamins     Hm, nifty.
20:32 jcamins     So kete.net.nz is running off of kete?
20:32 chris       walter (the lead developer) is going to be talking about it kohacon (koha + kete integration) you might want to get in touch
20:32 chris       yep
20:32 richard     jcamins yep
20:33 chris       richard is another good one to talk too
20:34 richard     the horowhenua library koha is a good example of them working together - http://www.library.org.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=fish
20:34 wizzyrea_   i love the HLT site
20:34 jcamins     Yeah, that's pretty nifty.
20:34 jcamins     Thanks.
20:37 jcamins     Hrm.
20:38 cait        hrm.
20:38 jcamins     Kind of a complex project, isn't it.
20:38 chris       not really, it sounds more complex than it actually is
20:38 chris       its about 1/50th the complexity of koha for example
20:49 cait        ok, something is not right here... checked out on 2010-07-01, due on 2008-07-01?
20:49 wizzyrea_   !
20:50 cait        wizzyrea: it's my fault, I am preparing a database for notices testing and loading issues with .koc :)
20:50 cait        just don't know where I did go wrong yet
20:51 wizzyrea_   hehe
21:01 cait        hm it seems the documentation is wrong, the date in the koc file is not the checkout date but the due date
21:01 wizzyrea_   oof
21:01 cait        oof
21:02 jcamins     Uh-oh.
21:02 cait        hm not sure this is a bug, perhaps it is supposed to work like that
21:02 cait        ? I have never worked with the offline circ tool
21:05 cait        but it's late, will think about it tomorrow - good night all :)
21:05 chris       night
21:05 cait        bye chris
21:54 jcamins     Oh no!
21:54 jcamins     I forgot to create a branch.
21:54 jcamins     Ummm... help?
21:55 wizzyrea_   ug I hate it when I do that
21:55 jcamins     And I already made a commit, too.
21:55 chris       easy peasy
21:55 chris       lemon squeezy
21:56 chris       make your branch now
21:56 chris       git checkout -b new_branch_name
21:56 chris       now that branch has your commit in it (cos you made it already)
21:56 chris       go back to where you were
21:56 chris       git checkout master
21:57 chris       you want to reset back one commit
21:57 chris       git reset HEAD^
21:57 chris       commit is undone
21:57 chris       git stash
21:57 chris       to get rid of the local mods
21:58 chris       and now master is back how it was .. and your branch has the commit on it
21:58 jcamins     Cool, thanks.
21:59 chris       git rules
22:00 jcamins     Yeah, that was surprisingly straightforward.
22:13 jcamins     How tall is the blue Koha band?
22:13 jcamins     Oh, there it is.
22:13 jcamins     150px.
22:13 jcamins     Never mind.