Time Nick Message 23:28 ebegin Have a good week end everyone! 23:19 chris SD need to learn its harder to lie on the internet these days, at least its harder to get away with it 23:15 chris according to libwebcats: 88 horizon to koha, 52 from unicorn, 3 have gone from koha to proprietary, 0 of those being Sirsi Dynix (Polaris and Apollo) 22:35 chris 97% of the statistics put forth by SD are bs 22:35 chris "David Noll, our SirsiDynix Field Sales Consultant. Dave wanted to know why we intended on leaving Symphony. We discussed our current issues ... and the main problem was the cost of the product and how frustrated we are that the prices continue to climb. Dave informed us that 30% of the libraries that left SirsiDynix for open source software ended up with SirsiDynix again." 22:35 chris wow, SD are continuing their FUD 22:08 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (10:00 AM NZST on August 21, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 22:08 chris @wunder wellington, nz 22:08 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 29.3�C (5:17 PM CDT on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 28.67 in 970.8 hPa (Rising). 22:08 moodaepo @wunder 56001 22:02 * cfouts is brought out of his coding haze into hunger at the thought of poached eggs 21:59 rhcl_away ew. like poached eggs? 21:58 cfouts blanched, actually 21:57 rhcl_away are those baked or fried? 21:56 cfouts it's a schpadoinkle day 21:54 rhcl_away chris 21:52 chris Morning 19:49 mib_lqqib i don't have the expertise :( 19:47 wizzyrea sure thing. If you have the expertise you might consider adding the functionality you want and submitting it. 19:46 mib_lqqib thanks for the info guys 19:34 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt 19:34 wizzyrea re: prose scenarios, thinking of something like in the bug 3536 19:32 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3246 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Looking for a way to customize the patron slips (receipts) 19:32 wizzyrea bug 3246 mib_lqqib 19:32 wizzyrea ok, I'm going to start work on that. I think I'm going to do prose-ish scenarios, and maybe an accompanying chart. Steps... 19:31 mib_lqqib I'd prefer to have the user's name on the slip instead of card number, for example 19:31 wizzyrea yup yup 19:30 jwagner Yet another candidate for "make everything editable through the notices-type interface" :-) 19:30 wizzyrea I think there's a bug to make them more configurable 19:30 wizzyrea agreed. 19:30 mib_lqqib isn't it 19:30 mib_lqqib that's weird 19:30 mib_lqqib oh 19:30 wizzyrea :( 19:29 wizzyrea mib_lqqib: no, it's hard coded 19:29 cfouts wizzyrea: spot on. it would help to have a descriptive set of use cases 19:29 mib_lqqib meaning, can I choose the info that appears on the slip? 19:29 mib_lqqib how can they be configured? 19:29 wizzyrea to get the ball rolling on documenting what kind of behavior people might expect out of koha 19:29 mib_lqqib i have a question re printing checkout slips 19:29 wizzyrea that was the other part 19:28 mib_lqqib hi 19:28 sekjal_a wizzyrea: it will also help us identify any other possible scenarios Koha doesn't yet support, and figure out how to make them possible 19:28 wizzyrea I was thinking that these scenarios would help someone to write the test units 19:27 wizzyrea it would be super nice to have scripted test units 19:26 * cfouts eagerly awaits the delivery of his new wifi router that won't reset its NAT tables every 45 minutes 19:10 cfouts it'd be nice to have scripted unit tests that did that 19:09 jwagner Personally I can follow a series of steps -- numbered, bulleted -- better than I can follow a chart 19:09 jwagner etc. etc. 19:09 jwagner Log in as patron/staff from whichever library, run through checkin, make sure it triggers 19:08 jwagner Log in as patron/staff from Library A, place hold for patron/on item from Library B 19:08 jwagner Config is [indybranch or not] holds are allowed/forbidden 19:08 jwagner I'd do a How to test [scenario]: 19:07 wizzyrea flowchart or prose? 19:07 wizzyrea format 19:07 wizzyrea so 19:07 wizzyrea we've got them all fresh in our minds right now, we were going to write them up 19:07 wizzyrea yep, that was the plan 19:07 jwagner wizzyrea, especially if you include multi-library test scenarios -- transfers, holds allowed, holds forbidden, independent branches, etc. 19:05 owen wizzyrea: helpful 19:03 wizzyrea helpful or not helpful: a set of scenarios for testing holds published on the wiki 18:57 cait bye all 18:56 cait ah :) 18:52 druthb There were two cfouts-es in here for a few minutes. Heaven knows we need a couple of clones of him... 18:46 cait ? 18:45 druthb ! 18:45 druthb cfouts -es for everyone 18:21 owen cfouts: multiopac css handling? 18:21 cfouts what did I write? 18:16 jwagner But I'll check some of the other setups. I was just merrily working along on a big project & suddenly had a major qualm about the css settings I was keeping track of. Thanks. 18:16 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.5�C (11:20 AM PDT on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady). 18:16 brendan @wunder 93117 18:15 jwagner He's kinda busy today..... 18:15 owen cfouts_ may have even written that, you could ask him :) 18:14 jwagner That's what I was hoping. We'll find out :-) 18:14 owen schuster has that setup, you could confirm with him 18:14 owen The opaccolorstylesheet if I recall correctly 18:14 jwagner I can't remember & don't seem to have that in my notes. 18:14 jwagner owen, question for you -- you did a writeup a while back on multiURL OPACs. When you're talking about having apache point to the separate stylesheets, does that stylesheet have to be a full copy of opac.css, or just the equiv of the opaccolorstylesheet one? 18:13 owen Chrome is tickled pink to do it. Firefox 3.5 wants to cancel execution of javascript on the page 18:12 jwagner Nobody likes loading patrons with 200 checkouts :-( 18:11 * owen does find that Firefox doesn't like loading a patron with 200 checkouts 18:08 owen That's what was just reported to me 18:08 owen Anyone else ever seen a patron with 70+ checkouts crash Firefox? 18:04 briceSanc thks 17:58 ebegin We do ask for user input in the installer script. Makefile.pl 17:56 briceSanc ebegin, no i want to ask "Are you sure you want to delete all authorities" 17:56 ebegin briceSanc, you want to ask the path of the file? 17:55 briceSanc I make a script to import University Laval authorities and i want to ask the user in the command line, do you know where i can find an exemple in KOHA ? 17:54 briceSanc Hello 17:03 cait and our teacher's libraries have games :) 17:03 cait I like the smaller icons 17:00 sekjal http://i37.tinypic.com/34f0d1j.jpg 16:55 sekjal and smaller versions of othem all 16:54 cait cool! 16:54 sekjal including Puzzles/Games, Bluray and ILL items 16:54 sekjal yes 16:54 cait more icons? :) 16:54 sekjal just sent an update patch to the VOKAL icon set 16:39 cait hi jcamins :) 16:39 jcamins Hi cait 16:38 cait hi again #koha 16:25 wizzyrea with the locations addition I made... I added the home location, but it's not pretty 16:24 wizzyrea I kinda did the same yesterday 16:24 wizzyrea pff it's hardly settling 16:23 owen If no one smart enough will fix a bug, sometimes you have to settle. 16:17 wizzyrea owen++ for that latest patch you sent 15:28 kf owen: no worries :) 15:28 owen Bye kf, thanks for your help 15:28 kf bye brendan 15:27 brendan bye kf 15:27 kf have a nice weekend everyone! 15:27 kf ok, weekend time :) 15:26 kf ah cool :) 15:25 kf owen: the irc log is here: http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-08-18#i_486541 15:25 owen Please be patient zen, someone will help if they can. If they can't, you can try again later. 15:25 zen helo! 15:23 zen can u help me how to map record using marcedit? 15:22 owen No, I think that's it 15:22 kf let me check the log 15:21 owen Yeah 15:21 kf hm wait, perhaps I am missing a step, there was a git format-patch involved 15:21 kf owen: that's what chris told me 15:20 owen kf: You apply the patch using "git am...", test, and then send the patch in as if it was your own? 15:19 zen please help 15:19 zen wizzyrea:i have mapped like this: but there is no change BARCODE CALLNO DATEOFPUBlication AUTHOR TITLE EDITION PLACE PUBLISHER ISBN branchlibrary itemtype shelvinglocation "063168,063169" "338.88 ROB,338.88 ROB" 2007 Robertson Christopher J. International business 2nd Ed. Dubuque McGraw 0073527815 "BPL,BPL" "BK,BK" "GEN,GEN" 15:14 zen i have mapped like this: but there is no change BARCODE CALLNO DATEOFPUB AUTHOR TITLE EDITION PLACE PUBLISHER ISBN branch library iteam type shelvinglocation "063168,063169" "338.88 ROB,338.88 ROB" 2007 Robertson Christopher J. International business 2nd Ed. Dubuque McGraw 0073527815 "BPL,BPL" "BK,BK" "GEN,GEN" 15:13 * kf can't follow 15:12 * owen thinks "Puny human memory" in Morvo's voice 15:07 * wizzyrea is relying on faulty human memory 15:07 wizzyrea dunno I don't think git am has worked a single time when I've tried it 15:07 owen How so wizzyrea ? 15:07 wizzyrea I do git apply too, which seems to work better than git am 15:06 kf ;) 15:06 kf I download them from bugzilla as owen told me 15:06 kf git am -s -3 -i -u name_of_patch 15:06 kf I copy the command from my cheat sheet (the heading is git apply...) 15:06 kf ah, no I don't 15:05 kf I always use git apply 15:05 kf sekjal: chris made me do it 15:05 * owen doesn't have patches in a mailbox 15:04 owen Hm... but you have to use git am for that, you can't use git apply? 15:04 sekjal kf was just so kind as to do that with a patch I submitted 15:02 kf and you can resend the patch 15:02 kf it writes something in the commit message 15:02 kf if you apply the patch mit option -s 15:02 kf it happens automatically 15:02 kf ah 15:02 kf it's somewhere in the chat logs but not sure I can find it... and forgot to write it down 15:01 owen I missed the lesson on that. 15:00 kf you can test it and sign-off on it - that will make chris happy :) 15:00 kf patch: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2010-August/012393.html 14:59 kf just missed one 14:59 kf you did not really break it I think, it was mixed all over 14:59 kf no 14:59 * owen git blames himself again 14:59 owen Ah right, I remember that. You fixed something I broke. 14:58 kf let me check 14:58 kf no new bug, an old one, I send it as follow up to one of your bugs :) 14:58 owen Oh yeah, kf? There's already a bug for it? 14:58 kf owen: I wrote a patch for that 14:58 sekjal something about renamed categoryloops? 14:58 owen :P 14:58 owen Yay, new bug! 14:58 owen Thanks, I wasn't sure if it was just me 14:57 sekjal owen: no 14:57 jwagner It says "Any" 14:56 owen Could someone check their HEAD installation and tell me wither the "category" dropdown is populated on the patron search screen? 14:54 jwagner Or a wiki section 14:54 * jwagner proposes a new Koha listserv for recipes 14:52 jcamins Awww. I've started a trend. :D 14:52 wizzyrea (he's super crabby when he's hungry, as we all are) 14:52 wizzyrea my kid has half of one every morning as his before daycare snack 14:51 jcamins Oooh, I like the idea of pumpkin pie spice. 14:51 wizzyrea but we added extra pumpkin pie spice and you know what, they smell garlicky, but they taste right fine. 14:50 wizzyrea we thought they would suck 14:50 wizzyrea jcamins: offtopic: we made the curry cookies again, but accidentally got curry powder with garlic (!) and cumin (!) 14:47 sekjal one of my dream developments for my personal Koha install is to get it to work with QR codes 14:47 wizzyrea e 14:47 wizzyrea I did a preso earlier this month that included QR codes as a way to tie your library to digital spaces, and it would be SO COOL if you could use any of your koha barcodes with your smartphon 14:46 wizzyrea I would love to see the bit with the camera though 14:46 wizzyrea ^^ agreed 14:42 owen making Koha an iOS app would put it in Apple's walled garden. Making it a mobile app would make it open to everyone. 14:38 dagentoob koha on Android would be AWESOME 14:38 sekjal putting a Koha app in Apple's walled garden seems so... inconsistent 14:38 dagentoob ?? 14:38 dagentoob I am trying to print labels and the outline box isn't printing. Any ideas 14:37 sekjal that would really help make it cross-platform 14:37 sekjal jcamins: there was a Javascript library I heard about last Code4Lib that aims to do that 14:37 * jcamins may need to get a smartphone, if it can do *that* 14:36 jcamins I was just thinking of the OPAC, but, wow! 14:36 jcamins sekjal: that would be awesome! 14:36 sekjal make inventory so much easier 14:36 sekjal the OPAC would be easier; I'd want to get access to the device's camera for barcode scanning for the staff client 14:36 sekjal I'm excited about the possibility of a mobile interface for Koha that'll work on iPhone, Android, PalmOS, etc. 14:35 munin brendan: wasabi was last seen in #koha 8 hours, 51 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <wasabi> you will be asked via the web-gui to update your db to the 3.2 structure then 14:35 brendan @seen wasabi 14:35 brendan mason for now I think he equals wasabi 14:34 jcamins brendan: not at all, but if I'm going to need to find someone to do it, I'd like to know in advance. ;) 14:34 brendan I think mason was thinking about doing that at one point - but I don't know how far he got 14:34 brendan that would be pretty cool 14:33 brendan jcamins - feeling the need to design a iPhone app? 14:33 jcamins Nifty! 14:33 wizzyrea I have, it seems to work fine 14:33 jcamins Does anyone use Koha on their iPhone or Android phone, or the like? 14:15 jcamins wizzyrea++ # great analogy 14:14 wizzyrea :) 14:14 wizzyrea ok, good luck 14:14 zen wizzyrea: thank you let me try it and i'll back with the result. 14:08 zen just tell me i can discuss about it with other my staff members. 14:07 kf hm. too complicated. 14:06 kf there is another way, but not sure I can explain it 14:06 zen thank you kf 14:06 kf zen: one record, multiple 952 fields :) 14:05 kf wizzyrea: I like your analogy :) 14:05 zen so what i have done is for every record there is one 952 field 14:04 zen wizzyrea when i see marc view of twlight till 900's it is one 952 field have alot 13:58 wizzyrea good morning 13:57 briceSanc hello all ! 13:53 wizzyrea you need to set up each folder, then add the papers to it (it's an analogy, I don't know how else to explain it) 13:52 wizzyrea when you set up your records for import 13:52 wizzyrea each slip of paper we put in the folder is a copy, and each paper has a set of 952's 13:51 wizzyrea This is the single result for this particular title, think of it like a folder. Written on the folder is all of the MARC information up to the 900's 13:50 wizzyrea taking this example of twilight 13:50 wizzyrea so 13:50 wizzyrea ok 13:50 zen exactly that is my question 13:50 wizzyrea and what you want to see is one result, with 6 copies 13:50 zen you are right. 13:49 wizzyrea is that right? 13:49 wizzyrea hmm. Ok. I think I hear you saying that when you search for a title, you get 6 individual results, each with one copy 13:48 zen sorry i cant understand it 13:48 wizzyrea http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=47833 13:48 wizzyrea here's the corresponding OPAC entry for that book 13:47 wizzyrea zen: make sense? 13:46 wizzyrea that one has one title, and 40-something copies 13:45 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "marc record with multiple items" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/49 13:44 wizzyrea and good morning 13:44 * wizzyrea tries to find an example record 13:43 zen no i mporting all copies 13:43 wizzyrea probably what you need to do is put your copy information in the several 952 fields of one bib record using MARCEdit 13:43 wizzyrea Oh, are you importing one bib for each copy? 13:42 zen owe what i mean is for example with the title bible if i have 6 copies when i search it it display 6 copies separately like they are different books instead of display one bible book with 6 copies 13:37 owen http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#5 13:37 zen no i didn't 13:36 owen zen: Have you reindexed? 13:35 zen i am new to koha and am doing koha marc bulk import it works fine but it display multilple copies of the same book at once 13:08 nengard owen++ for helping me with a complicated JQuery 12:59 jcamins Good morning, #koha 12:54 kf hi druthb 12:53 druthb howdy, #koha! :D 12:43 ebegin good morning all! 12:08 owen Hi #koha 12:00 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0�C (1:50 PM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 12:00 magnus @wunder bodo 11:50 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 19.7�C (7:59 AM EDT on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). 11:50 jwagner @wunder 20817 11:47 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.7�C (1:57 PM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady). 11:47 kf @wunder Konstanz 07:56 wajasu ok. i see some authors: in the detail with diacritics beside the letter. (Small font) When I hover over the author and it displays in a bigger font, the diacritics show above correctly. maybe its a font issue, or that text is needs some hint for rendering better. 07:34 kf not sure for marc-8, but you can test it easily 07:34 kf I use one of the ISO codes for one of our Z3950 servers. Koha translates it to utf8 with correct display of diacritics. 07:31 wajasu i created my db and have mysql/apache setup for UTF8. if my librarian edited the z3950 servers to return marc-8, instead of utf8, does that mean my web biblios(details) will show diacritics to the side of letters and not above? 07:28 kf paul_p: still afraid of us librarians? :) 07:23 kf paul_p: we have sun today - very good news here, had a lot of rain recently 07:20 magnus hiya paul_p 07:20 paul_p it rained tonight in Marseille. Very good news... 07:20 paul_p hi kf & magnus 07:09 magnus sounds like the kind of thing chris would know... 07:08 kf magnus: wondered about that myself yesterday :) 07:08 kf :) 07:08 kf morning paul_p 07:05 * magnus wonders if this can/will benefit koha in some way "Developer collaboration leads to implementation of NCIP 2.0: OCLC to contribute NCIP 2.0 code to XC NCIP toolkit http://bit.ly/a6qpCO" 07:01 magnus not so bad... 07:01 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0�C (8:20 AM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 07:01 magnus @wunder bodo 07:00 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.9�C (9:10 AM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady). 07:00 kf @wunder Konstanz 07:00 kf hi magnus 07:00 magnus good morning kf & #koha 06:59 kf good morning #koha 06:37 wajasu ok. since i'm doing a new install, maybe I should try getting the zebra index/server scripts running as koha instead of root. should I just chown -R g+w the /var/lib/koha/zebradb /var/lock/koha/zebradb directories and chgrp -R koha /var/lib/koha/zebradb /var/lock/koha/zebradb as well? 06:22 wajasu so create a new koha db. load the dumped 3.0.6, then hit the web gui, and it'll see my version is older than my code, and run the update scripts. Will try that. 06:19 wajasu ahhh. 05:43 wasabi you will be asked via the web-gui to update your db to the 3.2 structure then 05:42 wasabi wajasu: dump the db, then load it into yr 3.2 05:26 wajasu if i have an existing 3.0.6 koha and i want to migrate to 3.2, must I run an Makefile driven update? OR can I export data and reimport it into a fresh 3.2 koha installation? 04:23 wajasu Which Base.pm and Exception.pm is the better one? 04:22 wajasu ...the latest? 04:22 wajasu i'm just trying to reconcile the problem where HTTP::OAI depends on and requires XML::SAX:Base, but that would overwrite files from XML::SAX. Specifically, /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/XML/SAX/Base.pm, /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/XML/SAX/Exception.pm, /usr/share/man/man3/XML::SAX::Base.3pm.gz, and usr/share/man/man3/XML::SAX::Exception.3pm.gz. Are folks that use CPAN just overwriting with... 04:14 robin wajasu: everyone is going for beer now :) 04:13 wajasu anyone tried "balut" in the philippines? 04:06 darling i want some eels now 04:05 chris yay! 04:04 chilts lol 04:04 darling beermail! 03:54 * chris waits for the email 03:53 chilts heh 03:53 darling er 3 03:53 darling oh crap, it's 4.01 03:53 * chilts wonders what the Catalystas are doing 03:53 chris with eel! 03:53 chilts beer! 03:53 chris on the way to akaroa 03:52 chris ahhh its on banks peninsula 03:52 chris i never paid for eel (well except for sushi) 03:52 robin No idea 03:51 darling are the grocery store eels any good? 03:51 robin I used to go eeling around southland 03:51 chris specially smoked 03:51 chris eel is great 03:51 darling mmm, yeah, eels just don't sound tasty tho 03:51 robin heh 03:51 chris but now i have to find out 03:51 * chris either 03:51 robin I don't even know where that lake is 03:50 chris :) 03:50 chris so take that! 03:50 chris and im the only person at catalyst who can take eels from Lake Forsyth 03:50 chris http://www.fish.govt.nz/en-nz/Recreational/Most+Popular+Species/Fish+Identification/S+-+Z/Shortfin+Eels.htm 03:49 robin tuatara look like terrible eating 03:48 chris tuatua are great too 03:48 robin I reckon I'd get bored after 50. 03:48 darling 50's plenty 03:48 chris only allowed 50 mussel 03:48 chris you can get 150 of them :) 03:48 chris http://www.fish.govt.nz/en-nz/Recreational/Most+Popular+Species/Fish+Identification/L+-+R/Pipi.htm 03:47 darling cool! 03:47 chris cockels 03:47 chris and leave it out in the sun, then you can dig up pipi and chuck them on there, and the heat opens them 03:47 darling are pipi those little white flattish ones? 03:47 chris you get a sheet of roofing iron 03:46 darling I think the limit it 2 tons/person/day 03:46 chris we used to dig up pipi 03:46 darling they're very slow moving and ... 03:46 chris yeah they move pretty slow 03:46 darling we could go catch mussels 03:46 darling dang, now I'm hungry 03:46 chris and sometimes not even that 03:45 chris yeah, its like one or 2 days a year 03:45 robin they're very protected 03:45 robin darling: the odds of being allowed to get toheroa are pretty low 03:45 chris theres a chance we may get a hangi on the levin trip 03:44 chris blasted railways magazine 03:44 darling hmm, maybe we add to Levin trip 03:44 chris http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-Gov11_04Rail-t1-body-d18.html 03:44 chris i blame this article 03:43 robin yeah, there was one day a year if there were enough you could try to catch them (in Invercargill, anyway) 03:43 darling robin, can't fool me, earthquakes go up, not down 03:43 chris and tried to eat them all 03:43 robin darling: did you know there could be an earthquake at any moment and you could sink into the sea :D 03:43 chris people went mental in the 50's and 60's 03:42 darling being this close to an ocean at all kind of freaks me out 03:42 darling ah, cool 03:42 chris thats them 03:42 darling http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/1966/toheroa/1 03:41 robin darling: ah, you would never have gone digging for them (and always failing to catch them) as a kid, given you're from some remote country. 03:40 darling toheroa? what's that? is this 'learn rude MÄori words day'? 03:36 chris so i suspect not robots either 03:36 chris not even allowed tanks 03:35 chris you have to freedive for them 03:35 robin you spell that) 03:35 robin may be he could be running around chasing toheroa instead (or however 03:33 darling so -- any fisheries regs about catching paua by robot? 03:33 chilts though it does feel good even if I'm not there 03:32 chilts if only I could hit the beach :) 03:32 darling pruby can make us one 03:32 robin this is also true :) 03:32 darling diving robot 03:32 chris if he's sitting on beach to catch paua ... he's doing it wrong :-) 03:31 darling ick 03:31 robin sip paua, catch gin. 03:31 darling and etc 03:31 darling he can take it easy and go sit on the beach and catch paua and sip gin 03:30 robin chilts: you lush! :) 03:30 darling yeah, now that he's retired 03:29 chris youve probably been drinking all day chilts 03:27 chilts like you didn't know :-p 03:26 robin oh it is almost that time again. 03:26 chris heh 03:25 brendan I like that - oh, no son! 03:22 darling soon 03:22 darling son 03:22 darling oh, no 03:22 darling beer time! 03:17 chris yup half an hour or so 03:17 brendan almost beer time for chris 03:17 brendan heya chris 03:17 chris hi brendan 03:17 brendan hey amit 03:16 Amit heya brendan 03:14 robin ah right 03:14 chris yeah, he was at the airport trying to vent about being trapped on the tarmac missing his connection, but the 3g was crap too and dropped his message 03:13 robin (well, by just, I mean a few hours ago) 03:13 chris heh 03:13 robin ...did sekjal just apologise for not venting? 03:08 chris hi Amit 03:07 Amit heya chris 01:28 wasabi and then all that bibitem-level-itypes cruffy code needs to be ripped out 01:27 wasabi 'item-level_itypes' syspef should be set ON as a default, i reckon.. 00:50 sekjal just felt like venting. sorry all 00:49 wajasu the file that is overwritten is different and I didn't want to overwrite any core xml parsing implementation. 00:47 wajasu when i build a package for HTTP::OAI, and then try to install with my pacman package manager, i have a conflict. (i had this in 3.0.6 as well). It says its want to overwrite a file that belongs to another package (i.e. XML::SAX::Parser related). So I just comment HTTP::OUI out inthe makefile. 00:24 wajasu :) 00:24 wajasu i installed that and now it works 00:23 wajasu let me install that 00:22 wajasu Can't locate Date/Leapyear.pm ... 00:22 chris perl -MDate::ICal -e 'print $MODULE::VERSION'; 00:20 wajasu i'm looking into its code right now to see, 00:20 chris maybe it doenst export its version correctly 00:19 chris it wants 1.72 as a minimum 00:19 wajasu there is some new module version support in this version of perl. maybe there is something different about Date::ICal compared the the other modules. 00:18 chris it checks for a version, not just the existence of it 00:18 chris sounds like the version number 00:17 robin yeah, it sounds like Perl itself can see it fine, so not sure what koha_perl_deps.pl is upset about 00:13 wajasu i'll research 00:13 wajasu my only other module is HTTP:OAI which has a conflict, but I've usually commented that out of the makefile. can't do that with Date::ICal 00:12 wajasu koha_perl_deps.pl reports its current vesion as 0 00:10 wajasu the version matches 1.72 00:10 wajasu however the PerlModules.pm detects its presence isn't working for some reason. maybe because I am running perl 5.12? 00:09 wajasu i looked at what and where the files are files are installed and they seem fine. 00:08 wajasu it just sits there.