Time  Nick       Message
23:28 ebegin     Have a good week end everyone!
23:19 chris      SD need to learn its harder to lie on the internet these days, at least its harder to get away with it
23:15 chris      according to libwebcats: 88 horizon to koha, 52 from unicorn, 3 have gone from koha to proprietary, 0 of those being Sirsi Dynix (Polaris and Apollo)
22:35 chris      97% of the statistics put forth by SD are bs
22:35 chris      "David Noll, our SirsiDynix Field Sales Consultant. Dave wanted to know why we intended on leaving Symphony. We discussed our current issues ... and the main problem was the cost of the product and how frustrated we are that the prices continue to climb. Dave informed us that 30% of the libraries that left SirsiDynix for open source software ended up with SirsiDynix again."
22:35 chris      wow, SD are continuing their FUD
22:08 munin      chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (10:00 AM NZST on August 21, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
22:08 chris      @wunder wellington, nz
22:08 munin      moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 29.3�C (5:17 PM CDT on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 28.67 in 970.8 hPa (Rising).
22:08 moodaepo   @wunder 56001
22:02 * cfouts   is brought out of his coding haze into hunger at the thought of poached eggs
21:59 rhcl_away  ew. like poached eggs?
21:58 cfouts     blanched, actually
21:57 rhcl_away  are those baked or fried?
21:56 cfouts     it's a schpadoinkle day
21:54 rhcl_away  chris
21:52 chris      Morning
19:49 mib_lqqib  i don't have the expertise :(
19:47 wizzyrea   sure thing. If you have the expertise you might consider adding the functionality you want and submitting it.
19:46 mib_lqqib  thanks for the info guys
19:34 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt
19:34 wizzyrea   re: prose scenarios, thinking of something like in the bug 3536
19:32 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3246 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Looking for a way to customize the patron slips (receipts)
19:32 wizzyrea   bug 3246 mib_lqqib
19:32 wizzyrea   ok, I'm going to start work on that. I think I'm going to do prose-ish scenarios, and maybe an accompanying chart. Steps...
19:31 mib_lqqib  I'd prefer to have the user's name on the slip instead of card number, for example
19:31 wizzyrea   yup yup
19:30 jwagner    Yet another candidate for "make everything editable through the notices-type interface" :-)
19:30 wizzyrea   I think there's a bug to make them more configurable
19:30 wizzyrea   agreed.
19:30 mib_lqqib  isn't it
19:30 mib_lqqib  that's weird
19:30 mib_lqqib  oh
19:30 wizzyrea   :(
19:29 wizzyrea   mib_lqqib: no, it's hard coded
19:29 cfouts     wizzyrea: spot on. it would help to have a descriptive set of use cases
19:29 mib_lqqib  meaning, can I choose the info that appears on the slip?
19:29 mib_lqqib  how can they be configured?
19:29 wizzyrea   to get the ball rolling on documenting what kind of behavior people might expect out of koha
19:29 mib_lqqib  i have a question re printing checkout slips
19:29 wizzyrea   that was the other part
19:28 mib_lqqib  hi
19:28 sekjal_a   wizzyrea: it will also help us identify any other possible scenarios Koha doesn't yet support, and figure out how to make them possible
19:28 wizzyrea   I was thinking that these scenarios would help someone to write the test units
19:27 wizzyrea   it would be super nice to have scripted test units
19:26 * cfouts   eagerly awaits the delivery of his new wifi router that won't reset its NAT tables every 45 minutes
19:10 cfouts     it'd be nice to have scripted unit tests that did that
19:09 jwagner    Personally I can follow a series of steps -- numbered, bulleted -- better than I can follow a chart
19:09 jwagner    etc. etc.
19:09 jwagner    Log in as patron/staff from whichever library, run through checkin, make sure it triggers
19:08 jwagner    Log in as patron/staff from Library A, place hold for patron/on item from Library B
19:08 jwagner    Config is [indybranch or not] holds are allowed/forbidden
19:08 jwagner    I'd do a How to test [scenario]:
19:07 wizzyrea   flowchart or prose?
19:07 wizzyrea   format
19:07 wizzyrea   so
19:07 wizzyrea   we've got them all fresh in our minds right now, we were going to write them up
19:07 wizzyrea   yep, that was the plan
19:07 jwagner    wizzyrea, especially if you include multi-library test scenarios -- transfers, holds allowed, holds forbidden, independent branches, etc.
19:05 owen       wizzyrea: helpful
19:03 wizzyrea   helpful or not helpful: a set of scenarios for testing holds published on the wiki
18:57 cait       bye all
18:56 cait       ah :)
18:52 druthb     There were two cfouts-es in here for a few minutes.  Heaven knows we need a couple of clones of him...
18:46 cait       ?
18:45 druthb     !
18:45 druthb     cfouts -es for everyone
18:21 owen       cfouts: multiopac css handling?
18:21 cfouts     what did I write?
18:16 jwagner    But I'll check some of the other setups.  I was just merrily working along on a big project & suddenly had a major qualm about the css settings I was keeping track of.  Thanks.
18:16 munin      brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.5�C (11:20 AM PDT on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady).
18:16 brendan    @wunder 93117
18:15 jwagner    He's kinda busy today.....
18:15 owen       cfouts_ may have even written that, you could ask him :)
18:14 jwagner    That's what I was hoping.  We'll find out :-)
18:14 owen       schuster has that setup, you could confirm with him
18:14 owen       The opaccolorstylesheet if I recall correctly
18:14 jwagner    I can't remember & don't seem to have that in my notes.
18:14 jwagner    owen, question for you -- you did a writeup a while back on multiURL OPACs.  When you're talking about having apache point to the separate stylesheets, does that stylesheet have to be a full copy of opac.css, or just the equiv of the opaccolorstylesheet one?
18:13 owen       Chrome is tickled pink to do it. Firefox 3.5 wants to cancel execution of javascript on the page
18:12 jwagner    Nobody likes loading patrons with 200 checkouts :-(
18:11 * owen     does find that Firefox doesn't like loading a patron with 200 checkouts
18:08 owen       That's what was just reported to me
18:08 owen       Anyone else ever seen a patron with 70+ checkouts crash Firefox?
18:04 briceSanc  thks
17:58 ebegin     We do ask for user input in the installer script. Makefile.pl
17:56 briceSanc  ebegin, no i want to ask "Are you sure you want to delete all authorities"
17:56 ebegin     briceSanc, you want to ask the path of the file?
17:55 briceSanc  I make a script to import University Laval authorities and i want to ask the user in the command line, do you know where i can find an exemple in KOHA ?
17:54 briceSanc  Hello
17:03 cait       and our teacher's libraries have games :)
17:03 cait       I like the smaller icons
17:00 sekjal     http://i37.tinypic.com/34f0d1j.jpg
16:55 sekjal     and smaller versions of othem all
16:54 cait       cool!
16:54 sekjal     including Puzzles/Games, Bluray and ILL items
16:54 sekjal     yes
16:54 cait       more icons? :)
16:54 sekjal     just sent an update patch to the VOKAL icon set
16:39 cait       hi jcamins :)
16:39 jcamins    Hi cait
16:38 cait       hi again #koha
16:25 wizzyrea   with the locations addition I made... I added the home location, but it's not pretty
16:24 wizzyrea   I kinda did the same yesterday
16:24 wizzyrea   pff it's hardly settling
16:23 owen       If no one smart enough will fix a bug, sometimes you have to settle.
16:17 wizzyrea   owen++ for that latest patch you sent
15:28 kf         owen: no worries :)
15:28 owen       Bye kf, thanks for your help
15:28 kf         bye brendan
15:27 brendan    bye kf
15:27 kf         have a nice weekend everyone!
15:27 kf         ok, weekend time :)
15:26 kf         ah cool :)
15:25 kf         owen: the irc log is here: http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-08-18#i_486541
15:25 owen       Please be patient zen, someone will help if they can. If they can't, you can try again later.
15:25 zen        helo!
15:23 zen        can u help me how to map record using marcedit?
15:22 owen       No, I think that's it
15:22 kf         let me check the log
15:21 owen       Yeah
15:21 kf         hm wait, perhaps I am missing a step, there was a git format-patch involved
15:21 kf         owen: that's what chris told me
15:20 owen       kf: You apply the patch using "git am...", test, and then send the patch in as if it was your own?
15:19 zen        please help
15:19 zen        wizzyrea:i have mapped like this: but there is no change  BARCODE   CALLNO    DATEOFPUBlication     AUTHOR    TITLE   EDITION   PLACE  PUBLISHER  ISBN   branchlibrary   itemtype     shelvinglocation     "063168,063169"    "338.88 ROB,338.88 ROB"  2007    Robertson Christopher J.  International business    2nd Ed.   Dubuque   McGraw   0073527815 "BPL,BPL" "BK,BK"   "GEN,GEN"
15:14 zen        i have mapped like this: but there is no change BARCODE 	CALLNO	DATEOFPUB	AUTHOR	TITLE	EDITION	PLACE	PUBLISHER	ISBN	branch library	iteam type 	shelvinglocation  "063168,063169"	"338.88 ROB,338.88 ROB"	2007	Robertson Christopher J.	International business	2nd Ed.	Dubuque	McGraw	0073527815	"BPL,BPL"	"BK,BK"	"GEN,GEN"
15:13 * kf       can't follow
15:12 * owen     thinks "Puny human memory" in Morvo's voice
15:07 * wizzyrea is relying on faulty human memory
15:07 wizzyrea   dunno I don't think git am has worked a single time when I've tried it
15:07 owen       How so wizzyrea ?
15:07 wizzyrea   I do git apply too, which seems to work better than git am
15:06 kf         ;)
15:06 kf         I download them from bugzilla as owen told me
15:06 kf         git am -s -3 -i -u name_of_patch
15:06 kf         I copy the command from my cheat sheet (the heading is git apply...)
15:06 kf         ah, no I don't
15:05 kf         I always use git apply
15:05 kf         sekjal: chris made me do it
15:05 * owen     doesn't have patches in a mailbox
15:04 owen       Hm... but you have to use git am for that, you can't use git apply?
15:04 sekjal     kf was just so kind as to do that with a patch I submitted
15:02 kf         and you can resend the patch
15:02 kf         it writes something in the commit message
15:02 kf         if you apply the patch mit option -s
15:02 kf         it happens automatically
15:02 kf         ah
15:02 kf         it's somewhere in the chat logs but not sure I can find it... and forgot to write it down
15:01 owen       I missed the lesson on that.
15:00 kf         you can test it and sign-off on it - that will make chris happy :)
15:00 kf         patch: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2010-August/012393.html
14:59 kf         just missed one
14:59 kf         you did not really break it I think, it was mixed all over
14:59 kf         no
14:59 * owen     git blames himself again
14:59 owen       Ah right, I remember that. You fixed something I broke.
14:58 kf         let me check
14:58 kf         no new bug, an old one, I send it as follow up to one of your bugs :)
14:58 owen       Oh yeah, kf? There's already a bug for it?
14:58 kf         owen: I wrote a patch for that
14:58 sekjal     something about renamed categoryloops?
14:58 owen       :P
14:58 owen       Yay, new bug!
14:58 owen       Thanks, I wasn't sure if it was just me
14:57 sekjal     owen: no
14:57 jwagner    It says "Any"
14:56 owen       Could someone check their HEAD installation and tell me wither the "category" dropdown is populated on the patron search screen?
14:54 jwagner    Or a wiki section
14:54 * jwagner  proposes a new Koha listserv for recipes
14:52 jcamins    Awww. I've started a trend. :D
14:52 wizzyrea   (he's super crabby when he's hungry, as we all are)
14:52 wizzyrea   my kid has half of one every morning as his before daycare snack
14:51 jcamins    Oooh, I like the idea of pumpkin pie spice.
14:51 wizzyrea   but we added extra pumpkin pie spice and you know what, they smell garlicky, but they taste right fine.
14:50 wizzyrea   we thought they would suck
14:50 wizzyrea   jcamins: offtopic: we made the curry cookies again, but accidentally got curry powder with garlic (!) and cumin (!)
14:47 sekjal     one of my dream developments for my personal Koha install is to get it to work with QR codes
14:47 wizzyrea   e
14:47 wizzyrea   I did a preso earlier this month that included QR codes as a way to tie your library to digital spaces, and it would be SO COOL if you could use any of your koha barcodes with your smartphon
14:46 wizzyrea   I would love to see the bit with the camera though
14:46 wizzyrea   ^^ agreed
14:42 owen       making Koha an iOS app would put it in Apple's walled garden. Making it a mobile app would make it open to everyone.
14:38 dagentoob  koha on Android would be AWESOME
14:38 sekjal     putting a Koha app in Apple's walled garden seems so... inconsistent
14:38 dagentoob  ??
14:38 dagentoob  I am trying to print labels and the outline box isn't printing. Any ideas
14:37 sekjal     that would really help make it cross-platform
14:37 sekjal     jcamins: there was a Javascript library I heard about last Code4Lib that aims to do that
14:37 * jcamins  may need to get a smartphone, if it can do *that*
14:36 jcamins    I was just thinking of the OPAC, but, wow!
14:36 jcamins    sekjal: that would be awesome!
14:36 sekjal     make inventory so much easier
14:36 sekjal     the OPAC would be easier; I'd want to get access to the device's camera for barcode scanning for the staff client
14:36 sekjal     I'm excited about the possibility of a mobile interface for Koha that'll work on iPhone, Android, PalmOS, etc.
14:35 munin      brendan: wasabi was last seen in #koha 8 hours, 51 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <wasabi> you will be asked via the web-gui to update your db to the 3.2 structure then
14:35 brendan    @seen wasabi
14:35 brendan    mason for now I think he equals wasabi
14:34 jcamins    brendan: not at all, but if I'm going to need to find someone to do it, I'd like to know in advance. ;)
14:34 brendan    I think mason was thinking about doing that at one point - but I don't know how far he got
14:34 brendan    that would be pretty cool
14:33 brendan    jcamins - feeling the need to design a iPhone app?
14:33 jcamins    Nifty!
14:33 wizzyrea   I have, it seems to work fine
14:33 jcamins    Does anyone use Koha on their iPhone or Android phone, or the like?
14:15 jcamins    wizzyrea++ # great analogy
14:14 wizzyrea   :)
14:14 wizzyrea   ok, good luck
14:14 zen        wizzyrea: thank you let me try it and i'll back with the result.
14:08 zen        just tell me i can discuss about it with other my staff members.
14:07 kf         hm. too complicated.
14:06 kf         there is another way, but not sure I can explain it
14:06 zen        thank you kf
14:06 kf         zen: one record, multiple 952 fields :)
14:05 kf         wizzyrea: I like your analogy :)
14:05 zen        so what i have done is for every record there is one 952 field
14:04 zen        wizzyrea when i see marc view of twlight till 900's it is one 952 field have alot
13:58 wizzyrea   good morning
13:57 briceSanc  hello all !
13:53 wizzyrea   you need to set up each folder, then add the papers to it (it's an analogy, I don't know how else to explain it)
13:52 wizzyrea   when you set up your records for import
13:52 wizzyrea   each slip of paper we put in the folder is a copy, and each paper has a set of 952's
13:51 wizzyrea   This is the single result for this particular title, think of it like a folder. Written on the folder is all of the MARC information up to the 900's
13:50 wizzyrea   taking this example of twilight
13:50 wizzyrea   so
13:50 wizzyrea   ok
13:50 zen        exactly that is my question
13:50 wizzyrea   and what you want to see is one result, with 6 copies
13:50 zen        you are right.
13:49 wizzyrea   is that right?
13:49 wizzyrea   hmm. Ok. I think I hear you saying that when you search for a title, you get 6 individual results, each with one copy
13:48 zen        sorry i cant understand it
13:48 wizzyrea   http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=47833
13:48 wizzyrea   here's the corresponding OPAC entry for that book
13:47 wizzyrea   zen: make sense?
13:46 wizzyrea   that one has one title, and 40-something copies
13:45 pastebot   "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "marc record with multiple items" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/49
13:44 wizzyrea   and good morning
13:44 * wizzyrea tries to find an example record
13:43 zen        no i mporting all copies
13:43 wizzyrea   probably what you need to do is put your copy information in the several 952 fields of one bib record using MARCEdit
13:43 wizzyrea   Oh, are you importing one bib for each copy?
13:42 zen        owe what i mean is for example with the title bible if i have 6 copies when i search it it display 6 copies separately like they are different books instead of display one bible book with 6 copies
13:37 owen       http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#5
13:37 zen        no i didn't
13:36 owen       zen: Have you reindexed?
13:35 zen        i am new to koha and am doing koha marc bulk import it works fine but it display multilple copies of the same book at once
13:08 nengard    owen++ for helping me with a complicated JQuery
12:59 jcamins    Good morning, #koha
12:54 kf         hi druthb
12:53 druthb     howdy, #koha!  :D
12:43 ebegin     good morning all!
12:08 owen       Hi #koha
12:00 munin      magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0�C (1:50 PM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
12:00 magnus     @wunder bodo
11:50 munin      jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 19.7�C (7:59 AM EDT on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady).
11:50 jwagner    @wunder 20817
11:47 munin      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.7�C (1:57 PM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady).
11:47 kf         @wunder Konstanz
07:56 wajasu     ok. i see some authors: in the detail with diacritics beside the letter. (Small font)  When I hover over the author and it displays in a bigger font, the diacritics show above correctly.  maybe its a font issue, or that text is needs some hint for rendering better.
07:34 kf         not sure for marc-8, but you can test it easily
07:34 kf         I use one of the ISO codes for one of our Z3950 servers. Koha translates it to utf8 with correct display of diacritics.
07:31 wajasu     i created my db and have mysql/apache setup for UTF8.  if my librarian edited the z3950 servers to return marc-8, instead of utf8, does that mean my web biblios(details) will show diacritics to the side of letters and not above?
07:28 kf         paul_p: still afraid of us librarians? :)
07:23 kf         paul_p: we have sun today - very good news here, had a lot of rain recently
07:20 magnus     hiya paul_p
07:20 paul_p     it rained tonight in Marseille. Very good news...
07:20 paul_p     hi kf & magnus
07:09 magnus     sounds like the kind of thing chris would know...
07:08 kf         magnus: wondered about that myself yesterday :)
07:08 kf         :)
07:08 kf         morning paul_p
07:05 * magnus   wonders if this can/will benefit koha in some way "Developer collaboration leads to implementation of NCIP 2.0: OCLC to contribute NCIP 2.0 code to XC NCIP toolkit http://bit.ly/a6qpCO"
07:01 magnus     not so bad...
07:01 munin      magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0�C (8:20 AM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
07:01 magnus     @wunder bodo
07:00 munin      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.9�C (9:10 AM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady).
07:00 kf         @wunder Konstanz
07:00 kf         hi magnus
07:00 magnus     good morning kf & #koha
06:59 kf         good morning #koha
06:37 wajasu     ok. since i'm doing a new install, maybe I should try getting the zebra index/server scripts running as koha instead of root.  should I just chown -R g+w the /var/lib/koha/zebradb /var/lock/koha/zebradb directories and chgrp -R koha /var/lib/koha/zebradb /var/lock/koha/zebradb as well?
06:22 wajasu     so create a new koha db. load the dumped 3.0.6, then hit the web gui, and it'll see my version is older than my code, and run the update scripts. Will try that.
06:19 wajasu     ahhh.
05:43 wasabi     you will be asked via the web-gui to update your db to the 3.2 structure then
05:42 wasabi     wajasu:  dump the db, then load it into yr 3.2
05:26 wajasu     if i have an existing 3.0.6 koha and i want to migrate to 3.2, must I run an Makefile driven update? OR can I export data and reimport it into a fresh 3.2 koha installation?
04:23 wajasu     Which Base.pm and Exception.pm is the better one?
04:22 wajasu     ...the latest?
04:22 wajasu     i'm just trying to reconcile the problem where HTTP::OAI depends on and requires XML::SAX:Base, but that would overwrite files from XML::SAX. Specifically, /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/XML/SAX/Base.pm, /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/XML/SAX/Exception.pm, /usr/share/man/man3/XML::SAX::Base.3pm.gz, and usr/share/man/man3/XML::SAX::Exception.3pm.gz.  Are folks that use CPAN just overwriting with...
04:14 robin      wajasu: everyone is going for beer now :)
04:13 wajasu     anyone tried "balut" in the philippines?
04:06 darling    i want some eels now
04:05 chris      yay!
04:04 chilts     lol
04:04 darling    beermail!
03:54 * chris    waits for the email
03:53 chilts     heh
03:53 darling    er 3
03:53 darling    oh crap, it's 4.01
03:53 * chilts   wonders what the Catalystas are doing
03:53 chris      with eel!
03:53 chilts     beer!
03:53 chris      on the way to akaroa
03:52 chris      ahhh its on banks peninsula
03:52 chris      i never paid for eel (well except for sushi)
03:52 robin      No idea
03:51 darling    are the grocery store eels any good?
03:51 robin      I used to go eeling around southland
03:51 chris      specially smoked
03:51 chris      eel is great
03:51 darling    mmm, yeah, eels just don't sound tasty tho
03:51 robin      heh
03:51 chris      but now i have to find out
03:51 * chris    either
03:51 robin      I don't even know where that lake is
03:50 chris      :)
03:50 chris      so take that!
03:50 chris      and im the only person at catalyst who can take eels from Lake Forsyth
03:50 chris      http://www.fish.govt.nz/en-nz/Recreational/Most+Popular+Species/Fish+Identification/S+-+Z/Shortfin+Eels.htm
03:49 robin      tuatara look like terrible eating
03:48 chris      tuatua are great too
03:48 robin      I reckon I'd get bored after 50.
03:48 darling    50's plenty
03:48 chris      only allowed 50 mussel
03:48 chris      you can get 150 of them :)
03:48 chris      http://www.fish.govt.nz/en-nz/Recreational/Most+Popular+Species/Fish+Identification/L+-+R/Pipi.htm
03:47 darling    cool!
03:47 chris      cockels
03:47 chris      and leave it out in the sun, then you can dig up pipi and chuck them on there, and the heat opens them
03:47 darling    are pipi those little white flattish ones?
03:47 chris      you get a sheet of roofing iron
03:46 darling    I think the limit it 2 tons/person/day
03:46 chris      we used to dig up pipi
03:46 darling    they're very slow moving and ...
03:46 chris      yeah they move pretty slow
03:46 darling    we could go catch mussels
03:46 darling    dang, now I'm hungry
03:46 chris      and sometimes not even that
03:45 chris      yeah, its like one or 2 days a year
03:45 robin      they're very protected
03:45 robin      darling: the odds of being allowed to get toheroa are pretty low
03:45 chris      theres a chance we may get a hangi on the levin trip
03:44 chris      blasted railways magazine
03:44 darling    hmm, maybe we add to Levin trip
03:44 chris      http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-Gov11_04Rail-t1-body-d18.html
03:44 chris      i blame this article
03:43 robin      yeah, there was one day a year if there were enough you could try to catch them (in Invercargill, anyway)
03:43 darling    robin, can't fool me, earthquakes go up, not down
03:43 chris      and tried to eat them all
03:43 robin      darling: did you know there could be an earthquake at any moment and you could sink into the sea :D
03:43 chris      people went mental in the 50's and 60's
03:42 darling    being this close to an ocean at all kind of freaks me out
03:42 darling    ah, cool
03:42 chris      thats them
03:42 darling    http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/1966/toheroa/1
03:41 robin      darling: ah, you would never have gone digging for them (and always failing to catch them) as a kid, given you're from some remote country.
03:40 darling    toheroa? what's that? is this 'learn rude Māori words day'?
03:36 chris      so i suspect not robots either
03:36 chris      not even allowed tanks
03:35 chris      you have to freedive for them
03:35 robin      you spell that)
03:35 robin      may be he could be running around chasing toheroa instead (or however
03:33 darling    so -- any fisheries regs about catching paua by robot?
03:33 chilts     though it does feel good even if I'm not there
03:32 chilts     if only I could hit the beach :)
03:32 darling    pruby can make us one
03:32 robin      this is also true :)
03:32 darling    diving robot
03:32 chris      if he's sitting on beach to catch paua ... he's doing it wrong :-)
03:31 darling    ick
03:31 robin      sip paua, catch gin.
03:31 darling    and etc
03:31 darling    he can take it easy and go sit on the beach and catch paua and sip gin
03:30 robin      chilts: you lush! :)
03:30 darling    yeah, now that he's retired
03:29 chris      youve probably been drinking all day chilts
03:27 chilts     like you didn't know :-p
03:26 robin      oh it is almost that time again.
03:26 chris      heh
03:25 brendan    I like that - oh, no son!
03:22 darling    soon
03:22 darling    son
03:22 darling    oh, no
03:22 darling    beer time!
03:17 chris      yup half an hour or so
03:17 brendan    almost beer time for chris
03:17 brendan    heya chris
03:17 chris      hi brendan
03:17 brendan    hey amit
03:16 Amit       heya brendan
03:14 robin      ah right
03:14 chris      yeah, he was at the airport trying to vent about being trapped on the tarmac missing his connection, but the 3g was crap too and dropped his message
03:13 robin      (well, by just, I mean a few hours ago)
03:13 chris      heh
03:13 robin      ...did sekjal just apologise for not venting?
03:08 chris      hi Amit
03:07 Amit       heya chris
01:28 wasabi     and then all that bibitem-level-itypes cruffy code needs to be ripped out
01:27 wasabi     'item-level_itypes' syspef should be set ON as a default, i reckon..
00:50 sekjal     just felt like venting.  sorry all
00:49 wajasu     the file that is overwritten is different and I didn't want to overwrite any core xml parsing implementation.
00:47 wajasu     when i build a package for HTTP::OAI, and then try to install with my pacman package manager, i have a conflict. (i had this in 3.0.6 as well). It says its want to overwrite a file that belongs to another package (i.e. XML::SAX::Parser related).  So I just comment HTTP::OUI out inthe makefile.
00:24 wajasu     :)
00:24 wajasu     i installed that and now it works
00:23 wajasu     let me install that
00:22 wajasu     Can't locate Date/Leapyear.pm  ...
00:22 chris      perl -MDate::ICal -e 'print $MODULE::VERSION';
00:20 wajasu     i'm looking into its code right now to see,
00:20 chris      maybe it doenst export its version correctly
00:19 chris      it wants 1.72 as a minimum
00:19 wajasu     there is some new module version support in this version of perl.  maybe there is something different about Date::ICal compared the the other modules.
00:18 chris      it checks for a version, not just the existence of it
00:18 chris      sounds like the version number
00:17 robin      yeah, it sounds like Perl itself can see it fine, so not sure what koha_perl_deps.pl is upset about
00:13 wajasu     i'll research
00:13 wajasu     my only other module is HTTP:OAI which has a conflict, but I've usually commented that out of the makefile. can't do that with Date::ICal
00:12 wajasu     koha_perl_deps.pl reports its current vesion as 0
00:10 wajasu     the version matches 1.72
00:10 wajasu     however the PerlModules.pm detects its presence isn't working for some reason.  maybe because I am running perl 5.12?
00:09 wajasu     i looked at what and where the files are files are installed and they seem fine.
00:08 wajasu     it just sits there.