Time Nick Message 00:08 wajasu it just sits there. 00:09 wajasu i looked at what and where the files are files are installed and they seem fine. 00:10 wajasu however the PerlModules.pm detects its presence isn't working for some reason. maybe because I am running perl 5.12? 00:10 wajasu the version matches 1.72 00:12 wajasu koha_perl_deps.pl reports its current vesion as 0 00:13 wajasu my only other module is HTTP:OAI which has a conflict, but I've usually commented that out of the makefile. can't do that with Date::ICal 00:13 wajasu i'll research 00:17 robin yeah, it sounds like Perl itself can see it fine, so not sure what koha_perl_deps.pl is upset about 00:18 chris sounds like the version number 00:18 chris it checks for a version, not just the existence of it 00:19 wajasu there is some new module version support in this version of perl. maybe there is something different about Date::ICal compared the the other modules. 00:19 chris it wants 1.72 as a minimum 00:20 chris maybe it doenst export its version correctly 00:20 wajasu i'm looking into its code right now to see, 00:22 chris perl -MDate::ICal -e 'print $MODULE::VERSION'; 00:22 wajasu Can't locate Date/Leapyear.pm ... 00:23 wajasu let me install that 00:24 wajasu i installed that and now it works 00:24 wajasu :) 00:47 wajasu when i build a package for HTTP::OAI, and then try to install with my pacman package manager, i have a conflict. (i had this in 3.0.6 as well). It says its want to overwrite a file that belongs to another package (i.e. XML::SAX::Parser related). So I just comment HTTP::OUI out inthe makefile. 00:49 wajasu the file that is overwritten is different and I didn't want to overwrite any core xml parsing implementation. 00:50 sekjal just felt like venting. sorry all 01:27 wasabi 'item-level_itypes' syspef should be set ON as a default, i reckon.. 01:28 wasabi and then all that bibitem-level-itypes cruffy code needs to be ripped out 03:07 Amit heya chris 03:08 chris hi Amit 03:13 robin ...did sekjal just apologise for not venting? 03:13 chris heh 03:13 robin (well, by just, I mean a few hours ago) 03:14 chris yeah, he was at the airport trying to vent about being trapped on the tarmac missing his connection, but the 3g was crap too and dropped his message 03:14 robin ah right 03:16 Amit heya brendan 03:17 brendan hey amit 03:17 chris hi brendan 03:17 brendan heya chris 03:17 brendan almost beer time for chris 03:17 chris yup half an hour or so 03:22 darling beer time! 03:22 darling oh, no 03:22 darling son 03:22 darling soon 03:25 brendan I like that - oh, no son! 03:26 chris heh 03:26 robin oh it is almost that time again. 03:27 chilts like you didn't know :-p 03:29 chris youve probably been drinking all day chilts 03:30 darling yeah, now that he's retired 03:30 robin chilts: you lush! :) 03:31 darling he can take it easy and go sit on the beach and catch paua and sip gin 03:31 darling and etc 03:31 robin sip paua, catch gin. 03:31 darling ick 03:32 chris if he's sitting on beach to catch paua ... he's doing it wrong :-) 03:32 darling diving robot 03:32 robin this is also true :) 03:32 darling pruby can make us one 03:32 chilts if only I could hit the beach :) 03:33 chilts though it does feel good even if I'm not there 03:33 darling so -- any fisheries regs about catching paua by robot? 03:35 robin may be he could be running around chasing toheroa instead (or however 03:35 robin you spell that) 03:35 chris you have to freedive for them 03:36 chris not even allowed tanks 03:36 chris so i suspect not robots either 03:40 darling toheroa? what's that? is this 'learn rude MÄori words day'? 03:41 robin darling: ah, you would never have gone digging for them (and always failing to catch them) as a kid, given you're from some remote country. 03:42 darling http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/1966/toheroa/1 03:42 chris thats them 03:42 darling ah, cool 03:42 darling being this close to an ocean at all kind of freaks me out 03:43 chris people went mental in the 50's and 60's 03:43 robin darling: did you know there could be an earthquake at any moment and you could sink into the sea :D 03:43 chris and tried to eat them all 03:43 darling robin, can't fool me, earthquakes go up, not down 03:43 robin yeah, there was one day a year if there were enough you could try to catch them (in Invercargill, anyway) 03:44 chris i blame this article 03:44 chris http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-Gov11_04Rail-t1-body-d18.html 03:44 darling hmm, maybe we add to Levin trip 03:44 chris blasted railways magazine 03:45 chris theres a chance we may get a hangi on the levin trip 03:45 robin darling: the odds of being allowed to get toheroa are pretty low 03:45 robin they're very protected 03:45 chris yeah, its like one or 2 days a year 03:46 chris and sometimes not even that 03:46 darling dang, now I'm hungry 03:46 darling we could go catch mussels 03:46 chris yeah they move pretty slow 03:46 darling they're very slow moving and ... 03:46 chris we used to dig up pipi 03:46 darling I think the limit it 2 tons/person/day 03:47 chris you get a sheet of roofing iron 03:47 darling are pipi those little white flattish ones? 03:47 chris and leave it out in the sun, then you can dig up pipi and chuck them on there, and the heat opens them 03:47 chris cockels 03:47 darling cool! 03:48 chris http://www.fish.govt.nz/en-nz/Recreational/Most+Popular+Species/Fish+Identification/L+-+R/Pipi.htm 03:48 chris you can get 150 of them :) 03:48 chris only allowed 50 mussel 03:48 darling 50's plenty 03:48 robin I reckon I'd get bored after 50. 03:48 chris tuatua are great too 03:49 robin tuatara look like terrible eating 03:50 chris http://www.fish.govt.nz/en-nz/Recreational/Most+Popular+Species/Fish+Identification/S+-+Z/Shortfin+Eels.htm 03:50 chris and im the only person at catalyst who can take eels from Lake Forsyth 03:50 chris so take that! 03:50 chris :) 03:51 robin I don't even know where that lake is 03:51 * chris either 03:51 chris but now i have to find out 03:51 robin heh 03:51 darling mmm, yeah, eels just don't sound tasty tho 03:51 chris eel is great 03:51 chris specially smoked 03:51 robin I used to go eeling around southland 03:51 darling are the grocery store eels any good? 03:52 robin No idea 03:52 chris i never paid for eel (well except for sushi) 03:52 chris ahhh its on banks peninsula 03:53 chris on the way to akaroa 03:53 chilts beer! 03:53 chris with eel! 03:53 * chilts wonders what the Catalystas are doing 03:53 darling oh crap, it's 4.01 03:53 darling er 3 03:53 chilts heh 03:54 * chris waits for the email 04:04 darling beermail! 04:04 chilts lol 04:05 chris yay! 04:06 darling i want some eels now 04:13 wajasu anyone tried "balut" in the philippines? 04:14 robin wajasu: everyone is going for beer now :) 04:22 wajasu i'm just trying to reconcile the problem where HTTP::OAI depends on and requires XML::SAX:Base, but that would overwrite files from XML::SAX. Specifically, /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/XML/SAX/Base.pm, /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/XML/SAX/Exception.pm, /usr/share/man/man3/XML::SAX::Base.3pm.gz, and usr/share/man/man3/XML::SAX::Exception.3pm.gz. Are folks that use CPAN just overwriting with... 04:22 wajasu ...the latest? 04:23 wajasu Which Base.pm and Exception.pm is the better one? 05:26 wajasu if i have an existing 3.0.6 koha and i want to migrate to 3.2, must I run an Makefile driven update? OR can I export data and reimport it into a fresh 3.2 koha installation? 05:42 wasabi wajasu: dump the db, then load it into yr 3.2 05:43 wasabi you will be asked via the web-gui to update your db to the 3.2 structure then 06:19 wajasu ahhh. 06:22 wajasu so create a new koha db. load the dumped 3.0.6, then hit the web gui, and it'll see my version is older than my code, and run the update scripts. Will try that. 06:37 wajasu ok. since i'm doing a new install, maybe I should try getting the zebra index/server scripts running as koha instead of root. should I just chown -R g+w the /var/lib/koha/zebradb /var/lock/koha/zebradb directories and chgrp -R koha /var/lib/koha/zebradb /var/lock/koha/zebradb as well? 06:59 kf good morning #koha 07:00 magnus good morning kf & #koha 07:00 kf hi magnus 07:00 kf @wunder Konstanz 07:00 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.9�C (9:10 AM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady). 07:01 magnus @wunder bodo 07:01 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0�C (8:20 AM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 07:01 magnus not so bad... 07:05 * magnus wonders if this can/will benefit koha in some way "Developer collaboration leads to implementation of NCIP 2.0: OCLC to contribute NCIP 2.0 code to XC NCIP toolkit http://bit.ly/a6qpCO" 07:08 kf morning paul_p 07:08 kf :) 07:08 kf magnus: wondered about that myself yesterday :) 07:09 magnus sounds like the kind of thing chris would know... 07:20 paul_p hi kf & magnus 07:20 paul_p it rained tonight in Marseille. Very good news... 07:20 magnus hiya paul_p 07:23 kf paul_p: we have sun today - very good news here, had a lot of rain recently 07:28 kf paul_p: still afraid of us librarians? :) 07:31 wajasu i created my db and have mysql/apache setup for UTF8. if my librarian edited the z3950 servers to return marc-8, instead of utf8, does that mean my web biblios(details) will show diacritics to the side of letters and not above? 07:34 kf I use one of the ISO codes for one of our Z3950 servers. Koha translates it to utf8 with correct display of diacritics. 07:34 kf not sure for marc-8, but you can test it easily 07:56 wajasu ok. i see some authors: in the detail with diacritics beside the letter. (Small font) When I hover over the author and it displays in a bigger font, the diacritics show above correctly. maybe its a font issue, or that text is needs some hint for rendering better. 11:47 kf @wunder Konstanz 11:47 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.7�C (1:57 PM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady). 11:50 jwagner @wunder 20817 11:50 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 19.7�C (7:59 AM EDT on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). 12:00 magnus @wunder bodo 12:00 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0�C (1:50 PM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 12:08 owen Hi #koha 12:43 ebegin good morning all! 12:53 druthb howdy, #koha! :D 12:54 kf hi druthb 12:59 jcamins Good morning, #koha 13:08 nengard owen++ for helping me with a complicated JQuery 13:35 zen i am new to koha and am doing koha marc bulk import it works fine but it display multilple copies of the same book at once 13:36 owen zen: Have you reindexed? 13:37 zen no i didn't 13:37 owen http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#5 13:42 zen owe what i mean is for example with the title bible if i have 6 copies when i search it it display 6 copies separately like they are different books instead of display one bible book with 6 copies 13:43 wizzyrea Oh, are you importing one bib for each copy? 13:43 wizzyrea probably what you need to do is put your copy information in the several 952 fields of one bib record using MARCEdit 13:43 zen no i mporting all copies 13:44 * wizzyrea tries to find an example record 13:44 wizzyrea and good morning 13:45 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "marc record with multiple items" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/49 13:46 wizzyrea that one has one title, and 40-something copies 13:47 wizzyrea zen: make sense? 13:48 wizzyrea here's the corresponding OPAC entry for that book 13:48 wizzyrea http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=47833 13:48 zen sorry i cant understand it 13:49 wizzyrea hmm. Ok. I think I hear you saying that when you search for a title, you get 6 individual results, each with one copy 13:49 wizzyrea is that right? 13:50 zen you are right. 13:50 wizzyrea and what you want to see is one result, with 6 copies 13:50 zen exactly that is my question 13:50 wizzyrea ok 13:50 wizzyrea so 13:50 wizzyrea taking this example of twilight 13:51 wizzyrea This is the single result for this particular title, think of it like a folder. Written on the folder is all of the MARC information up to the 900's 13:52 wizzyrea each slip of paper we put in the folder is a copy, and each paper has a set of 952's 13:52 wizzyrea when you set up your records for import 13:53 wizzyrea you need to set up each folder, then add the papers to it (it's an analogy, I don't know how else to explain it) 13:57 briceSanc hello all ! 13:58 wizzyrea good morning 14:04 zen wizzyrea when i see marc view of twlight till 900's it is one 952 field have alot 14:05 zen so what i have done is for every record there is one 952 field 14:05 kf wizzyrea: I like your analogy :) 14:06 kf zen: one record, multiple 952 fields :) 14:06 zen thank you kf 14:06 kf there is another way, but not sure I can explain it 14:07 kf hm. too complicated. 14:08 zen just tell me i can discuss about it with other my staff members. 14:14 zen wizzyrea: thank you let me try it and i'll back with the result. 14:14 wizzyrea ok, good luck 14:14 wizzyrea :) 14:15 jcamins wizzyrea++ # great analogy 14:33 jcamins Does anyone use Koha on their iPhone or Android phone, or the like? 14:33 wizzyrea I have, it seems to work fine 14:33 jcamins Nifty! 14:33 brendan jcamins - feeling the need to design a iPhone app? 14:34 brendan that would be pretty cool 14:34 brendan I think mason was thinking about doing that at one point - but I don't know how far he got 14:34 jcamins brendan: not at all, but if I'm going to need to find someone to do it, I'd like to know in advance. ;) 14:35 brendan mason for now I think he equals wasabi 14:35 brendan @seen wasabi 14:35 munin brendan: wasabi was last seen in #koha 8 hours, 51 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <wasabi> you will be asked via the web-gui to update your db to the 3.2 structure then 14:36 sekjal I'm excited about the possibility of a mobile interface for Koha that'll work on iPhone, Android, PalmOS, etc. 14:36 sekjal the OPAC would be easier; I'd want to get access to the device's camera for barcode scanning for the staff client 14:36 sekjal make inventory so much easier 14:36 jcamins sekjal: that would be awesome! 14:36 jcamins I was just thinking of the OPAC, but, wow! 14:37 * jcamins may need to get a smartphone, if it can do *that* 14:37 sekjal jcamins: there was a Javascript library I heard about last Code4Lib that aims to do that 14:37 sekjal that would really help make it cross-platform 14:38 dagentoob I am trying to print labels and the outline box isn't printing. Any ideas 14:38 dagentoob ?? 14:38 sekjal putting a Koha app in Apple's walled garden seems so... inconsistent 14:38 dagentoob koha on Android would be AWESOME 14:42 owen making Koha an iOS app would put it in Apple's walled garden. Making it a mobile app would make it open to everyone. 14:46 wizzyrea ^^ agreed 14:46 wizzyrea I would love to see the bit with the camera though 14:47 wizzyrea I did a preso earlier this month that included QR codes as a way to tie your library to digital spaces, and it would be SO COOL if you could use any of your koha barcodes with your smartphon 14:47 wizzyrea e 14:47 sekjal one of my dream developments for my personal Koha install is to get it to work with QR codes 14:50 wizzyrea jcamins: offtopic: we made the curry cookies again, but accidentally got curry powder with garlic (!) and cumin (!) 14:50 wizzyrea we thought they would suck 14:51 wizzyrea but we added extra pumpkin pie spice and you know what, they smell garlicky, but they taste right fine. 14:51 jcamins Oooh, I like the idea of pumpkin pie spice. 14:52 wizzyrea my kid has half of one every morning as his before daycare snack 14:52 wizzyrea (he's super crabby when he's hungry, as we all are) 14:52 jcamins Awww. I've started a trend. :D 14:54 * jwagner proposes a new Koha listserv for recipes 14:54 jwagner Or a wiki section 14:56 owen Could someone check their HEAD installation and tell me wither the "category" dropdown is populated on the patron search screen? 14:57 jwagner It says "Any" 14:57 sekjal owen: no 14:58 owen Thanks, I wasn't sure if it was just me 14:58 owen Yay, new bug! 14:58 owen :P 14:58 sekjal something about renamed categoryloops? 14:58 kf owen: I wrote a patch for that 14:58 owen Oh yeah, kf? There's already a bug for it? 14:58 kf no new bug, an old one, I send it as follow up to one of your bugs :) 14:58 kf let me check 14:59 owen Ah right, I remember that. You fixed something I broke. 14:59 * owen git blames himself again 14:59 kf no 14:59 kf you did not really break it I think, it was mixed all over 14:59 kf just missed one 15:00 kf patch: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2010-August/012393.html 15:00 kf you can test it and sign-off on it - that will make chris happy :) 15:01 owen I missed the lesson on that. 15:02 kf it's somewhere in the chat logs but not sure I can find it... and forgot to write it down 15:02 kf ah 15:02 kf it happens automatically 15:02 kf if you apply the patch mit option -s 15:02 kf it writes something in the commit message 15:02 kf and you can resend the patch 15:04 sekjal kf was just so kind as to do that with a patch I submitted 15:04 owen Hm... but you have to use git am for that, you can't use git apply? 15:05 * owen doesn't have patches in a mailbox 15:05 kf sekjal: chris made me do it 15:05 kf I always use git apply 15:06 kf ah, no I don't 15:06 kf I copy the command from my cheat sheet (the heading is git apply...) 15:06 kf git am -s -3 -i -u name_of_patch 15:06 kf I download them from bugzilla as owen told me 15:06 kf ;) 15:07 wizzyrea I do git apply too, which seems to work better than git am 15:07 owen How so wizzyrea ? 15:07 wizzyrea dunno I don't think git am has worked a single time when I've tried it 15:07 * wizzyrea is relying on faulty human memory 15:12 * owen thinks "Puny human memory" in Morvo's voice 15:13 * kf can't follow 15:14 zen i have mapped like this: but there is no change BARCODE CALLNO DATEOFPUB AUTHOR TITLE EDITION PLACE PUBLISHER ISBN branch library iteam type shelvinglocation "063168,063169" "338.88 ROB,338.88 ROB" 2007 Robertson Christopher J. International business 2nd Ed. Dubuque McGraw 0073527815 "BPL,BPL" "BK,BK" "GEN,GEN" 15:19 zen wizzyrea:i have mapped like this: but there is no change BARCODE CALLNO DATEOFPUBlication AUTHOR TITLE EDITION PLACE PUBLISHER ISBN branchlibrary itemtype shelvinglocation "063168,063169" "338.88 ROB,338.88 ROB" 2007 Robertson Christopher J. International business 2nd Ed. Dubuque McGraw 0073527815 "BPL,BPL" "BK,BK" "GEN,GEN" 15:19 zen please help 15:20 owen kf: You apply the patch using "git am...", test, and then send the patch in as if it was your own? 15:21 kf owen: that's what chris told me 15:21 kf hm wait, perhaps I am missing a step, there was a git format-patch involved 15:21 owen Yeah 15:22 kf let me check the log 15:22 owen No, I think that's it 15:23 zen can u help me how to map record using marcedit? 15:25 zen helo! 15:25 owen Please be patient zen, someone will help if they can. If they can't, you can try again later. 15:25 kf owen: the irc log is here: http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-08-18#i_486541 15:26 kf ah cool :) 15:27 kf ok, weekend time :) 15:27 kf have a nice weekend everyone! 15:27 brendan bye kf 15:28 kf bye brendan 15:28 owen Bye kf, thanks for your help 15:28 kf owen: no worries :) 16:17 wizzyrea owen++ for that latest patch you sent 16:23 owen If no one smart enough will fix a bug, sometimes you have to settle. 16:24 wizzyrea pff it's hardly settling 16:24 wizzyrea I kinda did the same yesterday 16:25 wizzyrea with the locations addition I made... I added the home location, but it's not pretty 16:38 cait hi again #koha 16:39 jcamins Hi cait 16:39 cait hi jcamins :) 16:54 sekjal just sent an update patch to the VOKAL icon set 16:54 cait more icons? :) 16:54 sekjal yes 16:54 sekjal including Puzzles/Games, Bluray and ILL items 16:54 cait cool! 16:55 sekjal and smaller versions of othem all 17:00 sekjal http://i37.tinypic.com/34f0d1j.jpg 17:03 cait I like the smaller icons 17:03 cait and our teacher's libraries have games :) 17:54 briceSanc Hello 17:55 briceSanc I make a script to import University Laval authorities and i want to ask the user in the command line, do you know where i can find an exemple in KOHA ? 17:56 ebegin briceSanc, you want to ask the path of the file? 17:56 briceSanc ebegin, no i want to ask "Are you sure you want to delete all authorities" 17:58 ebegin We do ask for user input in the installer script. Makefile.pl 18:04 briceSanc thks 18:08 owen Anyone else ever seen a patron with 70+ checkouts crash Firefox? 18:08 owen That's what was just reported to me 18:11 * owen does find that Firefox doesn't like loading a patron with 200 checkouts 18:12 jwagner Nobody likes loading patrons with 200 checkouts :-( 18:13 owen Chrome is tickled pink to do it. Firefox 3.5 wants to cancel execution of javascript on the page 18:14 jwagner owen, question for you -- you did a writeup a while back on multiURL OPACs. When you're talking about having apache point to the separate stylesheets, does that stylesheet have to be a full copy of opac.css, or just the equiv of the opaccolorstylesheet one? 18:14 jwagner I can't remember & don't seem to have that in my notes. 18:14 owen The opaccolorstylesheet if I recall correctly 18:14 owen schuster has that setup, you could confirm with him 18:14 jwagner That's what I was hoping. We'll find out :-) 18:15 owen cfouts_ may have even written that, you could ask him :) 18:15 jwagner He's kinda busy today..... 18:16 brendan @wunder 93117 18:16 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.5�C (11:20 AM PDT on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady). 18:16 jwagner But I'll check some of the other setups. I was just merrily working along on a big project & suddenly had a major qualm about the css settings I was keeping track of. Thanks. 18:21 cfouts what did I write? 18:21 owen cfouts: multiopac css handling? 18:45 druthb cfouts -es for everyone 18:45 druthb ! 18:46 cait ? 18:52 druthb There were two cfouts-es in here for a few minutes. Heaven knows we need a couple of clones of him... 18:56 cait ah :) 18:57 cait bye all 19:03 wizzyrea helpful or not helpful: a set of scenarios for testing holds published on the wiki 19:05 owen wizzyrea: helpful 19:07 jwagner wizzyrea, especially if you include multi-library test scenarios -- transfers, holds allowed, holds forbidden, independent branches, etc. 19:07 wizzyrea yep, that was the plan 19:07 wizzyrea we've got them all fresh in our minds right now, we were going to write them up 19:07 wizzyrea so 19:07 wizzyrea format 19:07 wizzyrea flowchart or prose? 19:08 jwagner I'd do a How to test [scenario]: 19:08 jwagner Config is [indybranch or not] holds are allowed/forbidden 19:08 jwagner Log in as patron/staff from Library A, place hold for patron/on item from Library B 19:09 jwagner Log in as patron/staff from whichever library, run through checkin, make sure it triggers 19:09 jwagner etc. etc. 19:09 jwagner Personally I can follow a series of steps -- numbered, bulleted -- better than I can follow a chart 19:10 cfouts it'd be nice to have scripted unit tests that did that 19:26 * cfouts eagerly awaits the delivery of his new wifi router that won't reset its NAT tables every 45 minutes 19:27 wizzyrea it would be super nice to have scripted test units 19:28 wizzyrea I was thinking that these scenarios would help someone to write the test units 19:28 sekjal_a wizzyrea: it will also help us identify any other possible scenarios Koha doesn't yet support, and figure out how to make them possible 19:28 mib_lqqib hi 19:29 wizzyrea that was the other part 19:29 mib_lqqib i have a question re printing checkout slips 19:29 wizzyrea to get the ball rolling on documenting what kind of behavior people might expect out of koha 19:29 mib_lqqib how can they be configured? 19:29 mib_lqqib meaning, can I choose the info that appears on the slip? 19:29 cfouts wizzyrea: spot on. it would help to have a descriptive set of use cases 19:29 wizzyrea mib_lqqib: no, it's hard coded 19:30 wizzyrea :( 19:30 mib_lqqib oh 19:30 mib_lqqib that's weird 19:30 mib_lqqib isn't it 19:30 wizzyrea agreed. 19:30 wizzyrea I think there's a bug to make them more configurable 19:30 jwagner Yet another candidate for "make everything editable through the notices-type interface" :-) 19:31 wizzyrea yup yup 19:31 mib_lqqib I'd prefer to have the user's name on the slip instead of card number, for example 19:32 wizzyrea ok, I'm going to start work on that. I think I'm going to do prose-ish scenarios, and maybe an accompanying chart. Steps... 19:32 wizzyrea bug 3246 mib_lqqib 19:32 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3246 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Looking for a way to customize the patron slips (receipts) 19:34 wizzyrea re: prose scenarios, thinking of something like in the bug 3536 19:34 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt 19:46 mib_lqqib thanks for the info guys 19:47 wizzyrea sure thing. If you have the expertise you might consider adding the functionality you want and submitting it. 19:49 mib_lqqib i don't have the expertise :( 21:52 chris Morning 21:54 rhcl_away chris 21:56 cfouts it's a schpadoinkle day 21:57 rhcl_away are those baked or fried? 21:58 cfouts blanched, actually 21:59 rhcl_away ew. like poached eggs? 22:02 * cfouts is brought out of his coding haze into hunger at the thought of poached eggs 22:08 moodaepo @wunder 56001 22:08 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 29.3�C (5:17 PM CDT on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 28.67 in 970.8 hPa (Rising). 22:08 chris @wunder wellington, nz 22:08 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (10:00 AM NZST on August 21, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 22:35 chris wow, SD are continuing their FUD 22:35 chris "David Noll, our SirsiDynix Field Sales Consultant. Dave wanted to know why we intended on leaving Symphony. We discussed our current issues ... and the main problem was the cost of the product and how frustrated we are that the prices continue to climb. Dave informed us that 30% of the libraries that left SirsiDynix for open source software ended up with SirsiDynix again." 22:35 chris 97% of the statistics put forth by SD are bs 23:15 chris according to libwebcats: 88 horizon to koha, 52 from unicorn, 3 have gone from koha to proprietary, 0 of those being Sirsi Dynix (Polaris and Apollo) 23:19 chris SD need to learn its harder to lie on the internet these days, at least its harder to get away with it 23:28 ebegin Have a good week end everyone!