Time Nick Message 23:05 sekjal pianohack++ 22:10 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 25.5�C (3:18 PM PDT on August 18, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling). 22:10 brendan @wunder 93117 21:03 cait bye all! 21:03 cait :) thx 21:02 jcamins Have a good night, cait. 21:02 cait ok, now I will definitely dream about fudge and cookies 21:02 cait :) 21:01 jcamins I'm happy to volunteer for the role of Official Koha Baker (In Absentia). ;) 21:00 wizzyrea the oatmeal coconut curry ones are pretty epic. 20:59 cait and our own cookies :) 20:58 cait should I file an enhancement bug for that? :) 20:58 cait yay 20:55 jcamins We should have an official Koha fudge flavor. 20:55 cait cfouts: cookies? ;) 20:54 jcamins You're welcome. 20:52 cait jcamins: will try :) thx! 20:52 * cait feels a bit guilty 20:51 cfouts_ hi, cait. I don't have any fudge recipes. 20:51 jcamins Just remind me. 20:51 jcamins :( 20:51 jcamins Copy-and-paste isn't working. 20:51 jcamins I'll give the recipe to you tomorrow. 20:51 cait hi cfouts 20:50 cait ah, yeah, I hope it's really gone 20:50 jcamins On deleting your Facebook account. 20:49 cait hm? 20:49 jcamins Good for you, by the way. 20:49 jcamins Here, I found it. 20:49 cait deleted my facebook account 20:48 jcamins Let me check. 20:48 jcamins Actually, it's my entire Facebook profile, but I also just e-mailed it to someone, I think. 20:47 jcamins The fudge? Yes there is. 20:47 cait is there a recipe for that? 20:43 cait ah 20:42 jcamins And a pot. :D 20:42 jcamins So you don't need an oven, just a free burner on the stove. 20:41 wizzyrea top of the stove 20:41 jcamins Hob. I can never remember what other people call them. 20:41 cait stovetop? 20:41 cait will dream about that 20:40 wizzyrea ooh, a cupcake boutique 20:40 jcamins cait: I make my fudge on the stovetop. 20:40 * wizzyrea imagines cait's tiny cakes, thinks that would be a fun name for a bakery 20:40 cait and very small cakes :) 20:40 cait jcamins: I love baking too, but have no oven in this apartment, only a very small one to make pizza and such things 20:39 * wizzyrea is merely passable at baking 20:39 jcamins On frustrating days, I threaten to quit my job and become a baker. 20:39 jcamins cait: I love baking. 20:38 jwagner And on that note, I think I'll hang it up for the day. Working from home is great, but I always seem to put in more hours than when I have to keep one eye on traffic. Sigh. 20:38 cait jcamins always has the best cookies and sweets :) I cant even think of these great combinations 20:38 wizzyrea and they are lovely breakfast cookies 20:38 wizzyrea yea, we nixed the chox chips, and put in dried apricots and pecans instead 20:37 jcamins I think I may have to make more of those cookies, actually... they were really rather satisfying. 20:37 * jwagner says mmmmmm 20:37 cait ok, I see, notices don't count :) 20:36 * wizzyrea hands jwagner some of her fudge, hides the rest of it like a squirrel 20:36 cait ;) 20:36 jwagner And I'm battling with a site going live and weird notices and, and 20:36 * jcamins hands jwagner some pomegranate-walnut chocolate fudge, late only because he thought that jwagner had left already 20:36 cait I am battling with notices and import and and and... 20:36 wizzyrea btw, we've made the cookies like 10x now 20:36 wizzyrea jcamins: oh! that sounds good! 20:36 * jwagner feels neglected 20:36 * jcamins hands wizzyrea more, because she is battling git, and that requires lots of fudge 20:36 jwagner Hey! 20:36 cait thx 20:36 * cait sighs happily 20:35 * jcamins also hands wizzyrea some pomegranate-walnut chocolate fudge 20:35 cait wow 20:35 * jcamins hands cait some pomegranate-walnut chocolate fudge 20:35 cait jcamins: plz? :) 20:34 cait jcamins: cookies? 20:33 cait safe travels 20:32 chris Cyas 20:32 wizzyrea safe travels chris 20:32 chris Ok boarding 20:32 wizzyrea nah, I will clean it up 20:32 wizzyrea I'm not even sure what happened, I needed to edit my commit messages to add the -[followup] bit 20:32 jcamins I think maybe it's the question mark. 20:32 chris No promises I will tho 20:32 jcamins An authority wasn't automatically created for one heading only. 20:32 chris If I get time wizzy I can clean it for ya 20:32 jcamins Weird. 20:31 chris That'd do it 20:31 cait copy and paste problem when preparing item data - had 2 $b and no $a 20:31 wizzyrea I can't do any more until I get my crap cleaned up. 20:31 chris Did you squash some commits? 20:31 * cait hides 20:31 wizzyrea I told you we were having a disagreement, git and me 20:30 wizzyrea >.< yea, I know 20:30 chris Hehe the new one has boraccount stuff wizzy 20:29 chris And then fix it :) 20:29 chris Yeah make sure you report a bug 20:28 cait but I think I found the problem - although it's a bit annoying the tool did not tell me about it 20:28 cait I had only 20 records, thought it was easier this way 20:28 chris :) 20:28 wizzyrea >.< 20:28 chris Btw 20:28 chris The other 2 worked 20:27 chris Not for importing things with items 20:27 * wizzyrea and git are having a disagreement. 20:27 wizzyrea ug. there it is, i'm not sure it's right still but I'm done with it for today. 20:27 cait you never use staged marc import? 20:26 chris Yeah I never do it the way you do kf, so don't have any suggestions I'm afraid 20:26 wizzyrea very. badly. 20:26 wizzyrea badly 20:25 chris Hehe wizzyrea is all over the patches list 20:25 cait and the message I got from the import script looked ok too 20:24 cait not sure I checked, perhaps I just looked at the result list and thought it was ok 20:24 chris Windows annoys me less 20:23 cait ;) 20:23 cait and the windows question? 20:23 chris Was it in the items table yesterday? 20:23 cait not sure, it looked all ok yesterday. and I have imported status in importitem 20:23 chris Hmmm someone else can answer that harley question, I'm sick of it 20:22 cait *sighs* 20:22 chris I wonder what was different 20:21 cait my import from yesterday is not in the items table 20:21 cait ouch 20:20 richard hi 20:19 cait wb chris 20:19 * chris clocks in ftom the airport 20:04 jwagner I think it's going to take some intensive prowling & testing to figure this one out. May have to pass it on to the developers after all.... 20:03 sekjal borrower_message_preferences, borrower_message_transport_preferences, message_transports, and message_transport_types 20:02 sekjal jwagner; there are about 4 tables that deal with this 20:01 jwagner I usually just hop around on various dev systems or production ones as needed. But I don't work at the MySQL level unless someone holds my hand throughout. 20:01 jwagner druthb keeps threatening to come over & install one on my home PC. I keep dodging.... 20:00 owen jwagner: I'm surprised you don't have a VM running Koha 20:00 jwagner Nope, nothing in the table for that borrower number. 19:59 jwagner Yep, that's it. THanks. 19:58 owen borrower_message_preferences ? 19:57 jwagner I'm not at the MySQL level -- just doing a report 19:57 owen show tables like '%mess%' ? 19:56 jwagner Anyone know the table name for the messaging options offhand? Am working from home today & don't have my cheat sheet 19:54 jwagner We try :-) 19:53 wizzyrea you have to be nice to cfouts. 19:53 * jwagner hides quickly 19:53 jwagner I might have to have cfouts track it down! 19:52 jwagner Me too. Gremlins. It's Always Gremlins! 19:52 sekjal jwagner: huh. weird. I'm out of ideas for now 19:52 jwagner Nope, just verified that the others of that lastname have different email addresses. 19:51 jwagner sekjal, there are three patrons with that last name, but the notice used his firstname 19:49 sekjal jwagner: might their email somehow be attached to another account, as well, one that has Advanced Messaging set up? 19:47 * wizzyrea has other jobby stuff to do first though. 19:47 wizzyrea yep. 19:46 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5143 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Subtitles not showing on view_holdsqueue.pl 19:46 jwagner wizzyrea, you're going to update Bug 5143 with your two followup patches and that screencast link? 19:43 jwagner I never have either (getting notices without the settings). Weird. 19:42 wizzyrea I can't say that we've ever seen that 19:42 jwagner Separate problem of why the title shows in some DUE/PREDUE notices & not others. But I'll worry about that later :-) 19:41 jwagner That's what I thought. But I have at least one example of a patron who got both a DUE & PREDUE, with no messaging option set. I'm checking to see if the settings were modified recently. 19:41 gmcharlt jwagner: correct 19:41 sekjal jwagner: that sounds correct 19:40 * jwagner hides from gmcharlt 19:40 owen I like it when you think gmcharlt isn't even here and then BOO! he pops up and it makes you jump. 19:40 jwagner Oddball question for everyone. If a patron does not have any of the messaging options set, then in theory they should not be receiving any of those notices (DUE, PREDUE, etc.). Correct? 19:30 gmcharlt wizzyrea: git rebase -i {hash of commit before} the one you want to edit 19:19 wizzyrea just edit it? 19:19 wizzyrea question, how can I amend the commit message of a commit a couple back? 19:06 larsw fly safe 19:02 chris s 19:02 chris cya 19:01 chris ok time to head to the airport 18:44 cait 3rd nz and 7th germany - cool :) 18:41 chris http://www.perrier.eu.org/weblog/2010/08/07#devel-countries-2010 17:58 * wizzyrea has to go refer to owen's blog post and the koha git usage manual 17:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4493 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Enhancements to holds to pull report 17:53 jwagner owen, see Bug 4493 -- that's the report I was thinking of that we worked on 17:53 wizzyrea i'm not sure she's not referring to the holds queue... 17:53 chris for all the impatient cataloguers of the world to use :) 17:53 tcohen ack 17:52 chris tcohen: you could send it as a patch 17:52 chris cool 17:52 tcohen chris: thanks, 'ill do it and ping back 17:52 * owen doesn't use the holds to pull report actually 17:52 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3060 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, item number not on holds to pull report 17:52 owen Now that the holds queue report is polished we just have to fix the holds to pull report :| Bug 3060 17:52 wizzyrea stopped to get lunch :P 17:52 chris that way it handles logging etc for you too 17:51 wizzyrea jwagner: i am just about to 17:50 chris using daemon, or another of the debian utils for doing that, and have it as an init.d script 17:50 chris then you could daemonise it 17:49 chris that just called rebuild_zebra 17:49 chris well if you did a .sh 17:49 tcohen I mean, so it can be treated as a system service 17:49 chris thats why its deprecated :) 17:49 chris i wouldnt 17:48 tcohen maybe I can use the zebraqueue -daemon.pl structure 17:48 jcamins chris: ooh, clever. 17:48 tcohen chris: you're right! 17:48 chris and let the cron job do -b 17:48 tcohen I think i'll do it on perl and set a config variable for administering it 17:48 chris you might want to just do -a 17:47 tcohen yeap, i'll do it that way 17:47 chris and a sleep 17:47 chris yeah, a bash script with an infinite loop 17:47 jcamins I think it would be less annoying if it weren't for the fact that you _have_ to search for an authority in order to populate $9. 17:46 jcamins As a cataloger, I can relate. 17:46 owen Man, librarians are freakin' impatient. It's universal. 17:46 jwagner Thanks, owen, was just reading back. wizzyrea, have you submitted that as a patch? 17:46 wizzyrea zounds 17:46 jcamins tcohen: if you really feel like you need it to run more frequently, write a script that sleeps thirty seconds, then runs the reindexer. 17:46 tcohen they want it "instantly" available 17:46 tcohen the thing is that when our librarians add an authority 17:45 tcohen exactly 17:45 wizzyrea s 17:45 wizzyrea you must have crazy fast cataloger 17:45 chris cron cant run faster than a minute 17:45 tcohen (via cronjob) 17:45 tcohen ? 17:45 tcohen faster than once a minute 17:45 owen jwagner: here's what you missed: http://screencast.com/t/NDM0NGVlN 17:45 tcohen is there a way for setting the accumulative reindexing 17:44 * jwagner is back 17:44 tcohen as the usage of zebraqueue-daemon seems to be discouraged 17:44 tcohen hi, 1 question 17:43 cait oh, it was your yesterday that you told me how to sign-off on a patch 17:41 chris :) 17:39 cait chris: are you doing patch training today? :) 17:35 chris that way its easy to see if its a replacement patch, or a supplementary one 17:34 wizzyrea k 17:34 chris if you put [followup] in the patch, thats helpful too 17:32 cait :) 17:31 wizzyrea or mostly agree on 17:31 wizzyrea thank you all for your excellent discussion that led to a change we can agree on. :) 17:30 wizzyrea I shall submit it. 17:30 wizzyrea ok 17:30 wizzyrea WOOT 17:30 owen Looks good to me wizzyrea 17:30 wizzyrea the "clone wars adventures" wouldn't have shown before 17:30 chris cool 17:30 wizzyrea I prettified your work >.> 17:29 wizzyrea Yep, see star wars 17:29 chris is that doig the subtitle and stuff too? 17:29 cait looks ok to me 17:29 wizzyrea and owen, for that matter 17:28 wizzyrea cait: http://screencast.com/t/NDM0NGVlN 17:26 cait the call numbers in most academic libraries around here are quite unique 17:25 wizzyrea sigh. 17:25 wizzyrea yea. 17:25 wizzyrea or all juv fiction books with author last name beginning with H 17:25 cait ouch 17:25 wizzyrea like, an entire area with J F H, for example >.< 17:25 wizzyrea < has 31 libraries, each with a unique scheme, and definitely not unique call numbers 17:24 jcamins I *wish* we had call numbers. 17:24 owen I *wish* our call numbers were each unique 17:23 cait our libraries are smaller, the call number works for them 17:23 cait ok :) 17:23 wizzyrea I think it will still be easy to tell which is which 17:22 wizzyrea i'll tell you what, I'll protoype it and send a jiing, just a sec 17:22 cait it should be easy to see the difference in the list 17:22 wizzyrea oh it will still be easy I think 17:22 cait our libraries were quite happy that it was very easy to see the difference between item level and title level holds 17:22 wizzyrea ;) 17:22 wizzyrea hey I"ll take the blame. You don't have to take it 17:22 chris :) 17:22 chris and its not my fault 17:21 cait make it a sys pref? *ducks* 17:21 chris yeah, if you do the patch then git blame blames you 17:21 chris and that some ppl might get annoyed if they get told to pick a barcode that isnt there, (which will happen more) 17:21 wizzyrea I think I'll add "or any available item,' submit it and call it good. :) 17:21 chris no, just a workflow 17:21 wizzyrea like "OMG if you do that the world will implode" 17:20 wizzyrea I've got that part done, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a technical reason not to 17:20 wizzyrea yea 17:20 wizzyrea just split the difference 17:20 chris yep 17:20 chris its a 2 line change to get a barcode to show 17:20 wizzyrea I suppose you could say "<barcode> or any available item" 17:20 wizzyrea hm 17:20 wizzyrea well 17:19 wizzyrea then I guess we've just never come across that one 17:19 chris it checks onloan, not for loan, withdrawn, and lost 17:19 chris yeah it doesnt check damanged at all 17:19 owen ...unless something has changed 17:19 wizzyrea hmm. 17:18 owen That is contrary to our experience 17:18 wizzyrea the only time a damaged item has ever been on the pick list, that we know of, was when the item was marked damaged after it was picked by the script 17:18 wizzyrea I just talked to my peeps 17:17 chris yeah, although i think its good enough 17:14 wizzyrea is what you mean? 17:13 wizzyrea it doesn't currently check for all requirements? 17:13 wizzyrea lordie 17:13 wizzyrea http://www.screencast.com/users/lizrea/folders/Jing/media/3ee41ed3-7ffb-400e-ba30-1a200c2f0f17 this is what I'm thinking 17:12 chris wizzyrea: it doesnt currently 17:12 owen Oh right, one that will land hopefully? 17:12 chris and the dogs woke me up 17:12 jcamins chris sensed confusion on #koha. 17:11 chris got another flight 17:11 owen Also: Hi chris, aren't you up too early? 17:11 wizzyrea but, I haven't gotten complaints about it 17:11 wizzyrea that I do not know 17:11 owen wizzyrea: I also wonder if the 1 barcode you get with the existing query matches all requirements (available, for loan, etc) 17:11 wizzyrea certainly owen's proposal would require additional work 17:10 wizzyrea it looks like the flag for barcode displays the picked item regardless of whether it's item or title level 17:10 chris to fetch the items, (that exist in the right branch) 17:10 wizzyrea I'm not sure it does 17:09 chris the only technical one is it involves a second sql query 17:09 wizzyrea I am trying to decide if there is a technical reason, and not a workflow reason, to change it 17:09 owen How about showing 2 or 3 barcodes and an indication that there are more? 17:09 chris local changes do me no good :) 17:08 chris wheres the patch? 17:08 wizzyrea :) 17:08 wizzyrea I have already done this! 17:08 chris if not, the borrower doesnt care 17:08 chris at the moment you can tell, if it has a barcode, the borrowers wants exactly that 17:08 chris to tell ppl whethere this hold is an any, or a specific item 17:07 chris if you put barcode, you would need to add another column 17:07 wizzyrea hold queue 17:07 wizzyrea er 17:07 wizzyrea :D 17:06 wizzyrea owen: that would be wowie, imagine all 60 twilight copies on a single pick list! 17:06 cait hm, to show the call number it must already select one item as suggestion? 17:05 * jwagner has to run out for a few minutes -- back in a bit 17:05 cait because this could get really ugly for some things? 17:04 owen Let's take it further: why not show ALL the barcodes which could be pulled? 17:04 cait ok 17:03 wizzyrea the pick list is only a suggestion 17:03 wizzyrea it's fine 17:03 jwagner Maybe I'm thinking of a different holds report then -- I know we worked on one of them. 17:03 cait what happens if you show a barcode and a patron takes this copy before you get to the shelf? 17:03 owen jwagner: That's how it's been since the release of 3.0 17:02 jwagner When we worked on the holds queue report, I think we set it up so that it only showed a barcode if it was an item-specific hold. No barcode, then any item could fill. 17:02 wizzyrea it's a tradeoff: you trade human compute time for computer compute time 17:02 wizzyrea no, it doesn't really work well, because the call number isn't unique to each book 17:01 owen ...because a copy might be attached to a different biblio 17:01 cait wizzyrea: why have a barcode there? isn't the call number and title better because they are on the outside of the book? 17:01 wizzyrea Mmm, I don't think I agree with that rationale. Having the barcode helps you pick the right item off of the right bib 17:01 owen jwagner: The converse is that if you don't show a barcode and there are multiple copies on the shelf you don't know whether any particular one of them can be pulled 17:00 jwagner (We've noted chris's patch & put it on the list to cherrypick, incidentally, so you don't have to ask for it....) 17:00 jwagner wizzyrea, because for some holds any item could fill it? If you pre-select a barcode and that one can't be found for some reason (or someone has just checked it out), you don't know if it's OK to pull the next copy from the shelf. 16:59 wizzyrea Can somebody give me a good reason not to show a specific barcode for every hold on the holdsqueue? 16:58 wizzyrea I'm on a crusade. 16:58 wizzyrea holdsqueue 16:58 wizzyrea ok 16:57 cait or I just did not understand how it works 16:56 cait showing the categories (staff, child, adult) as heading in the pulldown above your category types 16:56 cait yeah, i think it's only a display thing 16:55 cait or I am totally wrong about it - did not find it very useful 16:55 owen I think, but I'm not positive, that with either setting it is still assumed that you have created your own patron sub-categories 16:55 cait I think you see the categories with one selection 16:55 cait It changes the list in the borrower record 16:55 cait ah 16:54 owen "List [general patron types / specific categories ] under the new patron menu" 16:54 cait sounds familiar 16:54 owen Anyone here familiar with the AddPatronLists preference? 16:53 druthb yep. Cooler and very, very rainy today. 16:53 jcamins druthb: is that a ten degree temperature drop compared to yesterday? 16:52 munin druthb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 21.8�C (12:53 PM EDT on August 18, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Steady). Flood Watch in effect through late tonight... 16:52 druthb @wunder 20852 16:51 cait hi jcamins :) 16:51 jcamins Hi cait. 16:50 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.9�C (6:59 PM CEST on August 18, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). 16:50 cait @wunder Konstanz 16:48 cait hi #koha 16:37 nengard still scared of what may happen -but bri (awesome hubby) came with me to vegas last week and to MO next week 16:37 druthb yup. When we had lunch at ALA, sitting on the floor, I pushed mine over against the rail to keep 'em out of the way. It bugged me to not stand them up. 16:37 nengard i'm doing better than i was when i found out 16:36 wizzyrea oh you poor thing nengard 16:36 nengard cause i can't really bend down to get them on the floor anyway ;) 16:36 nengard I have been keeping them standing all over 16:36 nengard funny how while helping me you find a way to pick on me too :) 16:36 druthb Some courtesy things--when you sit down, store them vertically, rather than laying them down across the floor. Even as short as yours must be (compared to mine), they present a big trip hazard, unless laid down against a wall or something. 16:33 druthb They'll feel "tall", like you're hauling yourself over a hump, but it is much more stable and sustainable. 16:33 druthb It's just like standing with your feet way apart; you feel unstable, because you *are.* 16:32 druthb yep. 16:32 nengard maybe why i feel like i'm gonna fall :) 16:32 nengard i have them out wide 16:32 nengard that's i'm not doing 16:32 druthb Keep the tips close together; they should remain more-or-less vertical. a big outswing like you're rowing is unhealthy and dangerous for you and everyone around. 16:32 nengard yeah day one i put bruises on my armpits!!! but i fixed things after that and put memory foam on the arm pads :) hehe 16:31 druthb People tear up their shoulders alla time by slouching onto their crutches. If they're sized right, you can't slouch. Handgrips should be where your arms are almost straight, and weight should be about evenly distributed between armpits and hands. 16:30 nengard druthb - when i stand i'll check to see if it's right, I think I'm pretty close to straight 16:29 nengard it's a new hip 16:29 druthb Okay. Commonest problem I see is poorly-fitting sticks. Wearing a shoe you normally wear, stand ramrod-straight, like at military "Attention". The crutch should *just* make contact with your armpit, or be not more than an inch under it. 16:29 nengard and if that doesn't work 16:29 nengard if that doesn't work it's surgery 16:29 wizzyrea :O 16:29 nengard keyword = might 16:29 nengard turns out I have a condition called avascular necrosis - easy explanation is my hip is dying. my mom had both hers replaced at 45 and when I felt a little pain i went right in. the idea is no weght bearing for a month might let it heal a little 16:28 wizzyrea omg what happeneD/ 16:28 nengard for 1 month!!!!!! 16:28 nengard 2 sticks and yes - 1 foot totally off the floor - no weight allowed 16:28 druthb Two sticks or one, nengard? And I assume you've got one foot totally out of action, and holding it off the floor. 16:27 nengard druthb I need some tips for getting around on crutches cause right now i'm at the mercy of hubby!! 16:21 * druthb squees back, and sashays back and forth some more. 16:21 * wizzyrea waves, squees 16:21 wizzyrea better than not finding them :) 16:21 druthb hi, wizzyrea! 16:20 nengard but at least these were small(ish) 16:20 nengard :( 16:20 nengard yes owen 16:19 wizzyrea hey ruth :) 16:18 owen nengard do you find new bugs every time you do training? :) 16:14 owen ;) 16:14 * owen checks his watch and taps his foot 16:14 * druthb struts around on her new prosthetic leg. 16:14 druthb Hi, owen! :D 16:14 owen Hi druthb 14:48 brendan s/mornign/morning 14:48 brendan mornign rhcl 14:39 rhcl_away Morning brendan 11:53 pentarex everything is ok 11:53 pentarex i found it now 11:50 pentarex anyone ? 11:48 pentarex how i can fix it 11:48 pentarex is blank 11:48 pentarex mark up c : item type 11:48 pentarex in section 9 11:48 pentarex in koha when i want to add a record 11:48 pentarex hey guys ... again 11:46 kf night chris 11:46 chris ok bedtime 11:45 chris by a given query 11:45 chris will tell you what indexes are being used 11:44 chris explain some sql 11:44 chris is a great command 11:44 chris jwagner: explain 11:41 jwagner OK, I think that's what I was looking for -- the KEY entries in the kohastructure.sql file or the MySQL command. In either case, it looks like there are not indexes on the various name fields (surname, firstname, etc.), so that answers the question I was investigating. Thanks. 11:39 * kf takes notes 11:38 chris show indexes from borrowers; 11:38 chris so 11:38 chris in mysql 11:38 kf jwagner: look here http://spedr.com/159lku 11:38 chris show indexes from tablename 11:37 kf but this would be the place I would look too 11:36 kf sorry, I never worked with indexes 11:34 jwagner I don't work at the MySQL level -- how can I see what MySQL indexes are usually created? Right now I'm interested in the borrowers table. I'm looking at kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql but I'm not sure that's where I should be looking. 11:34 kf morning jwagner 11:33 jwagner Morning, all. 11:30 kf jcamins_a: around? 11:30 kf jcamins: around? 10:39 chris yeah, nothing to do with koha though 10:39 kf http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x10143 10:39 kf chris: locum is in nicoles manual - so not that weird perhaps :) 10:38 kf is locum used for sopac perhaps? 10:25 chris people are weird 10:19 pentarex 10x anyway 10:19 pentarex ;) 10:19 pentarex sorry 10:14 chris this one is about Koha, which is written in perl not php 10:14 chris you are probably better off asking on a drupal mailing list, or drupal irc channel 10:13 pentarex with this 10:13 pentarex anyone can help me 10:13 pentarex i mean i have problem with this connector module for drupal - locum 10:12 chris night jo 10:12 jo homertime ! night all 10:12 chris that doesnt sound like anything to do with koha 10:12 chris koha is not written in php 10:09 pentarex its this problem 10:09 pentarex PHP Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class locum in /usr/local/lib/locum/locum.php on line 15 10:09 pentarex is not that problem 10:09 pentarex ops 10:09 pentarex can someone help me please 10:08 pentarex PHP Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class locum in /usr/local/etc/scas_dsn.php on line 15 10:08 pentarex i have this problem with my harvest 10:08 pentarex hey guys 09:23 chris yup 09:22 kf ah, I have to do format-patch again after amend? 09:21 kf hm and my comment got lost 09:20 kf ok, done, but forgot to set the date in my vb...(again) 09:17 kf let me try 09:14 chris with git commit --amend 09:14 chris if you want to to add a comment you can 09:13 kf just resend it now or add a comment? 09:12 kf but this is a good tip 09:12 kf did not know git show, normally use vi 09:12 kf Signed-off-by: Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> 09:12 chris will show you it if you want to look before you make the patch 09:12 chris git show 09:11 chris it will make a new patch, with the signoff line 09:11 chris so now if you do git format-patch 09:11 kf on a new branch 09:11 chris right, the -s is signoff 09:11 kf yep 09:11 kf with the command you taught me 09:11 chris git am -s -i -3 -u ? 09:11 chris how did you apply the patch 09:11 chris :) 09:08 kf need help :) 09:08 kf resign? 09:08 kf I added a comment to the bug, not sure how to resend it? 09:05 chris like that 09:05 chris http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=a1616127bdcfd7d765d7f73cce54cae5609e3a7f 09:05 chris that way galen knows someone has tested the patch applies and works, makes his life easier 09:04 chris or resend it even 09:04 chris is signoff the patch and attach it to the bug 09:04 chris what you could do 09:03 chris cool 08:58 kf done testing too 08:54 chris done 08:47 chris yep, ill add that 08:45 kf chris: is the library (new sponsor) missing in the list on the start page) 08:43 chris jo: updated the levin trip page 08:34 chris :) 08:34 kf had to import records with items first :) 08:34 kf looks great so far 08:32 chris cool 08:29 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4385 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, With XSLT on, results list doesn't show both hardcopy and URL availability 08:29 kf testing sekjals patch for bug 4385 now 08:24 kf hi chris 08:23 chris evening 07:46 kf it's not that bad, just working out how they should catalog their items in union catalog so we get all needed information for koha (item types and locations) 07:46 jo oh thats head work to 07:45 kf working out some cataloging rules for a new library 07:45 jo no. and i'm so tired already 07:43 kf does not sound like a lot of fun 07:42 jo i would usually be home - working late to get report done for auditors 07:42 kf nice to see you :) started feeling a bit lonely here :) 07:41 kf hi jo :) 07:41 jo waves at kf 07:24 kf hmpf. 07:24 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.7�C (9:33 AM CEST on August 18, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). 07:24 kf @wunder Konstanz 06:32 kf morning #koha 06:15 greenmang has anybody tried working on Amazon's API to search books? 06:01 wajasu i just got back from the philippines and I'm now back in texas and now i'm up all night. 06:00 wajasu thx 06:00 wajasu no acquisitions used yet. 06:00 chris Ok my bus is nearly home bbl 05:59 chris The last blocker for release is to do with data upgrade for acq 05:58 chris Yeah the acqusitions modulw in koha 05:58 wajasu you mean purchasing from vendors...? 05:57 chris Do you use acquisitions? 05:57 chris Good plan 05:56 wajasu ok. i'll dupe my prod db and run that against it to see the benefits, then hopefully the 3.2 will be released, and i'll install that. 05:55 chris Stuff for 3.4 is in the new/ branches 05:54 chris But for now master is what will be 3.2 05:54 chris Master will branch after the rc 05:53 chris Just grab master 05:53 chris Yeah 05:51 wajasu is a git based pull with a certain tag worth grabbing instead? i.e. more fixes closer to the 3.2 release? 05:50 chris Yep many multilingual libraries use koha 05:50 wajasu i'll grab the beta and try it out. 05:50 wajasu ok. i need that. its an academic library and many authors and texts have diacritics. 05:48 chris For 3.2 diacritics display right, as do umlauts and macrons etc I can't remember for 3.0.x 05:47 wajasu if the website show diacritics next to the letter in cases, could it be a problem of how I encoded the unicode and stored it in the database when creating marc21 records? or is it a lack of sophistication in the page display logic? 05:46 chris He did the rewrite for 3.2 05:46 chris Chris_n is the one to ask about labels 05:45 chris Ahh I won't suggest u use the debian packages then 05:45 chris The website we have more control over 05:45 chris For labels anyway 05:44 wajasu i use archlinux. 05:44 chris The diacritics is a problem with the pdf spec 05:44 wajasu i see some records with a letter then a diacritic nex to it. 05:44 wajasu i also want to see if diacritics are handled in labels, and web pages. 05:44 chris Do you use debian? 05:44 chris It is definitely better in 3.2 05:43 wajasu my librarian is doing labels and if i upgrade, then maybe the label module is better. 05:42 wajasu yeah my typo. 05:42 chris Also you hit my pet peeve :) its 3.0.6 .... silly to worry about but I do hehe 05:41 chris Libraries are running beta in production 05:41 chris Maybe rc2 if needed but I don't think it will be 05:40 chris Hopefully just rc1 05:40 wajasu so there will be rc1, rc2 ... over the next few months. 05:40 chris And a release candidate is due out any day now 05:39 * chris clocks on from the bus, I love android 05:39 chris There is a beta 05:38 wajasu i'm going to do an update from 3.06. Is 3.2's release imminent? i.e. in the next week or two? Or shoud I grab the current alpha. 04:22 brendan hey amit 03:27 Amit heya chris, brendan