Time  Nick        Message
23:52 chris       that would be sweet
23:47 owen-away   Or maybe Bodo, Norway?
23:45 chris       it probably is europes turn again
23:45 chris       :)
23:44 * owen-away votes Konstanz for the next Koha conference
22:43 ricardo     Running off as well... Take care, everyone!  :)
22:35 cait        learning a lot by fixing those bugs, hope it will help me with my bigger projects too :)
22:34 chris       np
22:33 cait        ah, before I forget:  chris++ for your help on my patch(es) :)
22:32 jcamins_a   Good night.
22:32 chris       night cait
22:32 cait        ok, time to sleep :) bye all
22:27 cait        http://www.konstanz-tourismus.de/ tourism site of konstanz - pictures :)
22:25 jcamins_a   Yes, but it helps if you like cities. ;)
22:25 cait        I think living in NY has its own advantages
22:25 cait        :)
22:22 jcamins_a   A countryside sounds nice too.
22:21 cait        Konstanz has a great countryside and the lake of course, but I have no garden or balcony, so I enjoy the garden here when visiting my family
22:16 * jcamins_a is very jealous. There's very little green where he lives in New York.
22:15 cait        and we had wine too
22:15 cait        it is quite small, because the house is in the old part of the city, but its very green :)
22:14 jcamins_a   Especially if it's not horribly humid.
22:14 jcamins_a   cait: I don't blame you. A garden sounds wonderful.
22:14 cait        so got a bit distracted :)
22:13 cait        was sitting in the garden with my father
22:11 chris       was a pretty quiet meeting (i wasnt there but read the logs too)
22:08 cait        reading logs
22:08 cait        hi chris :)
22:08 chris       heya cait
22:08 chris       ricardo: not yet :)
21:58 munin       moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 32.1�C (5:05 PM CDT on August 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 27.0�C. Pressure: 28.86 in 977.2 hPa (Rising).
21:58 ricardo     chris: And "darling" 's nick never got you in trouble with your wife? "Hey 'darling', wait a minute... I have my wife on the phone!"  ;-)
21:58 moodaepo    @wunder 56001
21:56 * chris     works about 10 metres away from darling
21:56 chris       he's on the phone :)
21:55 ricardo     darling: I'm just joking, of course  :)
21:52 ricardo     darling: ...and then you chose another nick that can get you in all other sorts of trouble. Nice!  ;-)
21:51 darling     hehe, I got in trouble at work for using my real name as my irc nick so changed it to that
21:48 ricardo     Hi darling! I always wished to say that...  ;-)
21:10 ricardo     chris: *nod*
21:08 chris       im glad bernardo is fixing all the typos in the templates, thats neat
21:03 richard     coopetition is a good description
21:02 chris       heh
21:02 ricardo     "richard" vs "chris": "FIGHT!"... this must be said with the "voice-off" from "Mortal Kombat"  ;-)
21:02 chris       coopetition as paul would say
21:00 richard     um, i've only visited him once at his work. we work together on some things but often compete
20:58 ricardo     richard: Ah... That must help to keep you in good shape  ;-)
20:58 richard     in wellington nz. i'm about 30 minutes walk from chris
20:57 ricardo     richard: Where?
20:57 ebegin      10 C? That is not winter... :) winter is - 20 overhere :)
20:57 richard     it was 4 degrees yesterday mornign
20:57 ricardo     I think we "spooked" wasabi
20:57 chris       its winter :)
20:57 ricardo     chris: Chilly....
20:57 munin       chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (8:00 AM NZST on August 12, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
20:56 chris       @wunder wellington,nz
20:56 wizzyrea    oh seriously, yea, I'm coming to your house, owen
20:56 ricardo     Althoug it's already 10 PM here in Lisbon
20:56 munin       ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 26.0�C (4:00 PM EDT on August 11, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
20:56 ebegin      @wunder montreal, canada
20:56 ricardo     OK... Kansas wins (ouch!)
20:56 owen        wizzyrea: C'mon over, it's cooler here today.
20:56 munin       ricardo: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 27.0�C (9:30 PM WEST on August 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
20:56 ricardo     @wunder lisbon, portugal
20:56 munin       ricardo: Error: No such location could be found.
20:56 ricardo     @wunder lisbon
20:56 wizzyrea    :)
20:56 ricardo     wizzyrea: Thanks!  :)
20:55 munin       owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 23.9�C (4:55 PM EDT on August 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Steady).
20:55 owen        @wunder 45701
20:55 munin       wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 39.5�C (4:02 PM CDT on August 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling).  Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM CDT Friday... 
20:55 ricardo     !lisbon
20:55 wizzyrea    @wunder lawrence, ks
20:55 ricardo     !weather
20:55 ricardo     Wasn't there some kind of message to the bot to have weather info...
20:52 * ricardo   agrees with owen
20:51 * owen      like busy if it's the right kind
20:51 ricardo     chris: ahh, i hear that  ;-)
20:51 chris       stupidly busy, but good apart from that ;)
20:51 ricardo     chris: And how's your life?
20:50 chris       cool
20:50 ricardo     chris: I was looking to "AuthoritiesMarc.pm" today... I believe there's a small bug there (and maybe - but just maybe - another one "hiding" that would not be so small). Let's see if I can make something out of this---
20:48 ricardo     chris: Thanks!  :)
20:48 chris       yeah, can also mean 'you have my sympathy'
20:47 ricardo     chris: Is "I hear that" an idiomatic expression for "I have the same problem" ?  ;-)
20:47 chris       ahh, i hear that
20:46 ricardo     chris: Lots of work... Being kept busy at work with many things regarding Linux Server admin, besides Koha (so I can now only work with / study Koha sometimes)
20:45 richard     darn caps lock
20:45 richard     oops
20:45 richard     HI ALL
20:44 ricardo     Hello richard
20:44 chris       heya ricardo, hows things?
20:44 ricardo     Hi chris! Long time no see :)
20:41 chris       :)
20:41 owen        Dunno, I went home :)
20:41 chris       power all back i see
20:39 owen        Hi chris
20:32 * chris     wanders in
20:32 richard     hi
20:24 ricardo     ebegin: OK, thanks for the info
20:22 * thd       returns to moving partitions
20:21 briceSanc   ok thanks for your answer
20:21 thd         briceSanc: Expect more discussion on the mailing list in about a week.  My hardware capacity to participate had been interrupted recently.
20:19 thd         briceSanc: Future discussion in relation to ballot design, voting etc. has been agreed to be held on the general mailing list.
20:18 ebegin      in the sql data of the installer :D
20:18 ricardo     ebegin: Where did you find it, then?
20:18 thd         briceSanc: If you search for AGPL on the mailing list archives you should find the past discussion.
20:17 briceSanc   owen, is there a web place where i could be informed about the relicensing of Koha?
20:16 ebegin      Anyway, thanks guys.  I found what I was looking for :D
20:16 ebegin      Another example of an hardcoded value is -1 for Ordered in the NOT_LOAN authorised value.
20:15 thd         ebegin: there may be some common practise in Koha MARC 21 libraries for item status values but it differs from common practise for Koha UNIMARC libraries.
20:13 thd         ebegin: 0 and 1 have explicit meaning for item status.  Values beyond that are John Conway's humorous data type errrm :)
20:12 thd         ebegin: Item status value meanings vary between libraries although there are some partial presumptions implied in the code.
20:11 ricardo     ebegin: Check the "Default value" field of the "Advanced constraints" section of a Cataloging framework that you use, for a field that uses / should use some "authorised values" list
20:11 ebegin      I fell back on the sql data
20:11 thd         ebegin: Item status values are not formally specified which makes it impossible to design a feature which exploits the values in a normalised manner.
20:10 ebegin      jwagner, that's correct. But there was a list somewhere on the wiki (maybe it wasn't move on the new version)
20:10 ricardo     ebegin: I believe the default value of an authorised list is defined / chosen on each of the (Cataloging) frameworks that use it
20:09 thd         ebegin: you have referred to some value lists with no formal specification.
20:09 jwagner     ebegin, I think the default authorized values are an option during installation -- is that what you're asking?
20:08 thd         :)
20:08 thd         ricardo: just life with very complex systems
20:08 ricardo     thd: Sure, I meant that I'm sorry that you to put up with those problems of Parted Magic / gParted
20:07 thd         ricardo: I could use merely 2 or 3 partitions like most people but I want different mount options and other controls which only come from a much greater degree of partitioning.
20:06 briceSanc   ok and what are the main change of the licence ?
20:05 owen        briceSanc: For Koha
20:05 briceSanc   During the IRC meeting, the relicensing discuss was for the Wiki or for the Koha software ?
20:04 ebegin      Like LOST... 1 : Lost, 2: Long Overdue, 3: Lost and paid for, etc.
20:04 ricardo     thd: OK. I'm sorry that you had to put up with that
20:03 ebegin      of authorized value :)  Those that are hardcoded
20:03 thd         I will try to look for the problem next time it occurs.  I am almost finished after several days work reorganising partitions.
20:02 owen        the default authorized value of what?
20:02 ebegin      I remember that there was a section about the default authorized value on the wiki.  I can not find it.  Anybody remember where it is?
20:01 ricardo     thd: *nod*
20:00 thd         owen: I think that there has been somewhat less to report and discuss because of the time of year.
19:59 ricardo     thd: That makes sense, although I'm not sure of that
19:58 thd         ricardo: I expect that everything would be in /var/log on the virtual file system.
19:58 * owen      isn't sure whether that's good or bad
19:57 ricardo     owen: Congratulations! You're right! You missed a pretty speedy meeting  :)
19:57 thd         owen: very little communicated during the meeting.
19:57 owen        I guess I didn't miss much meeting
19:56 ricardo     s/ALT+11/ALT+F11
19:56 thd         ricardo: If I had the hardware to support some other type of volume management and trusted the integrity of data on such systems my problem would be simpler.
19:56 ricardo     thd: Is anything available in the "error console"? I forget where the error console lives... Alt+F9 or ALT+11, maybe?
19:55 thd         ricardo: I am able to accomplish what I need to do but it is taking many days because I constantly have to restart the process.
19:55 ricardo     thd: Right... Oh well, I guess I can't help you, sorry. Try to see if the bug is posted to the "Bugs" forum of "Parted Magic" - http://partedmagic.com/forum.html
19:54 thd         Rebooting cures all problems when waiting more than enough time for any write to have finished does not.
19:52 ricardo     thd: right
19:52 thd         ricardo: I use a boot media and the OS is running entirely in RAM.
19:52 ricardo     thd: Yeah, I figured as much, but wanted to be sure  :)
19:51 thd         ricardo: I would not think of using gparted from the disk on which it is operating.
19:51 ricardo     thd: You're booting Gparted from some kind of a Boot media, like a Boot CD, right? If you're not, try to do that.
19:50 thd         ricardo: I cannot be certain that some other part of parted magic than gparted is having memory leaks.  However, memory leaks and other problems are obvious.
19:49 gmcharlt    it was a change in the apache config that broke it; few enough users of clone-over-http that I don't thnk anybody had noticed
19:49 gmcharlt    update-server-info wasn't the problem - that gets run as a post-update hook
19:49 ricardo     gmcharlt: Cool  :) Many thanks. Did you also set it up as a cronjob, or would that be a bad idea?
19:48 gmcharlt    ricardo: clone over http is now working again
19:46 thd         I had to resort to backup in the past when parted failed 3 years ago.
19:46 thd         I have not lost any data when gparted has failed.
19:45 thd         also, I have been testing hard drives and RAM vigorously
19:45 thd         ricardo: no this is happening on many computers including one with a new hard drive
19:44 ricardo     thd: OK, so I'll assume it's the current gparted version (0.6.2). I don't have experience of "memory leaks" but I think I'm at least "one version behind". Could your hard drive be "dying" and, if that's the case, could it be causing problems to gparted (just guessing)?
19:41 thd         ricardo: I am using the latest version of gparted which is packaged with parted magic.
19:38 slef        ok see you next week. Or in irc.oftc.net #spi in 15
19:38 ricardo     thd: Memory leaks in Gparted? What version are you using?
19:38 * thd       goes back to memory leaks in gparted
19:38 ricardo     gmcharlt: Thank you
19:37 gmcharlt    thanks, all
19:37 gmcharlt    yep, I think we're done
19:37 slef        probably too dark
19:37 ricardo     jwagner: Yep, maybe we are finished... gmcharlt: Do you want to formally "close" the meeting, if that's the case?
19:36 slef        http://softwarecoop.posterous.com/strange-bird
19:36 thd         CGI516: are you still here?
19:35 jwagner     I think we were finished, just checking
19:35 hdl         back to vacation time
19:35 jwagner     No, I didn't mean that -- just wasn't sure
19:35 hdl         will read logs.
19:34 ricardo     jwagner: Oops, sorry... You're right. I'll shut up now  :)
19:34 jwagner     Is the meeting over?
19:33 ricardo     http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2010-August/034334.html
19:33 ricardo     gmcharlt: Not urgent but, when you have the time, could you give your feedback regarding:
19:33 ricardo     hdl: Cool, thanks
19:33 hdl         yes
19:32 ricardo     hdl: OK, I'll write a patch for 3.0.x and send it for the Koha 3.0.x branch to the "koha patches" mailing list and "Cc"ing you. Does that sound good?
19:31 hdl         if any good soul is willing to send good test data, I will take it.
19:30 hdl         I have little data to test aqorderbreakdown migration correctly,
19:30 hdl         ricardo: send it to me.
19:29 briceSanc   jwagner, I have received and read your mail, i just need time to answer
19:29 gmcharlt    but looking forward to hdl's work on the budget migration
19:29 gmcharlt    the latter
19:29 thd         gmcharlt is your suggestion for the absence of any acquisitions migration script or merely the imperfection of such a script.
19:28 thd         hdl: gmcharlt had suggested a workaround on migrating acquisitions to store old data in renamed tables.
19:28 ricardo     ?
19:28 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5116 minor, P5, ---, ricmarques, NEW, Duplicate and missing entries in "apt-get-debian-lenny.sh"
19:28 ricardo     Bug 5116
19:28 ricardo     Nice... Should I try to backport the small patch I contributed today for master branch regarding:
19:27 hdl         I am working on budgets migrations. too
19:26 hdl         should be at least.
19:26 hdl         jwagner: yes
19:26 hdl         But I will write releasenotes.
19:26 jwagner     hdl, this is the latest stable version, correct?
19:26 hdl         actually : it is already on git.
19:26 slef        I'll try to post one to http://softwarecoop.posterous.com
19:26 ricardo     hdl: Cool! :)
19:25 hdl         3.0.7
19:25 ricardo     hdl: Will release what, exactly?
19:25 gmcharlt    hdl++
19:25 hdl         I am packaging it. Will release it this week
19:24 thd         s/cam/came/
19:24 slef        scrawny little brown ones
19:24 gmcharlt    hdl: still time for a 3.0 update
19:24 thd         hdl: you did not miss much but an issue cam up about migrating acquisitions
19:24 hdl         hi
19:24 chris_n     pink?
19:24 gmcharlt    hdl: hi
19:24 gmcharlt    slef: the flamingoes?
19:23 slef        there are really odd-looking birds here
19:23 jcamins     +1
19:23 hdl         looks like I am too late.
19:23 VickiTeal   +1
19:23 slef        +1
19:23 Colin       ok
19:23 slef        ok afaik
19:22 chris_n     +1
19:22 thd         +1
19:22 ricardo     gmcharlt: Fine by me
19:22 slef        
19:22 gmcharlt    ok - 19:00 UTC+0 on the 1 September 2010?
19:22 chris_n     the 1st is good by me
19:22 gmcharlt    the first Wednesday in September is the 1st
19:21 chris_n     lol
19:21 thd         there was a call to summarise the many votes about the relicensing vote held during the relicensing meeting
19:21 gmcharlt    :)
19:21 gmcharlt    chris_n: I think you showed up just in time for setting the next meeting time
19:21 chris_n     sorry for being late
19:20 * chris_n   = Chris Nighswonger, FBC
19:20 slef        ok. I looked and thought it was just me failing with that wiki again
19:20 VickiTeal   OK!
19:19 gmcharlt    slef: not as far as I know, but that would be the home once it's finalized
19:19 thd         VickiTeal: we agreed at the meeting about a relicensing vote that discussion was to take place on the general list.
19:19 gmcharlt    I think this is shaping to be a quick meeting, which does balance out the 2 hour meeting regarding the licensing
19:19 slef        is the vote schedule on wiki somewhere?
19:19 VickiTeal   Thanks. I'm not on developer's list. ;-)
19:18 gmcharlt    VickiTeal: of course
19:18 VickiTeal   Please be sure to send to koha general list. Thanks.
19:17 thd         My data was never a problem.  I simply could not display it in a room less than 110 degrees F
19:17 ricardo     ricardo = Ricardo Dias Marques, author of installation guide of Koha in openSUSE and contributor/approver to Portuguese translation, Portugal
19:17 slef        oops network broke for a mo there. Reading log
19:17 ricardo     back
19:16 gmcharlt    thd: ok, I'll send an email about the vote schedule at some point
19:16 thd         I am still migrating my previous computing environment to a new computer with gparted constantly dying on me.
19:15 schuster    David Schuster - Plano ISD(school district 67 schools on Koha)
19:14 thd         slef has also been more recently absent, although, with non-broken hardware I assume.
19:14 aarkerio    I vote GPLv3
19:14 gmcharlt    ok - I think we'll need to reset the vote schedule, then
19:14 thd         I actually managed to break my computer.
19:13 thd         Unfortunately, I have been absent for a few weeks and not attending to the license vote schedule.
19:12 gmcharlt    contining on to license vote
19:12 gmcharlt    aarkerio: welcome!
19:12 aarkerio    I am from Mexico! Cancer Institute:  http://docencia.incan.edu.mx:8888/
19:11 gmcharlt    hi briceSanc , and welcome
19:10 slef        cool ta
19:10 briceSanc   and i'm developper
19:10 gmcharlt    slef: 3.2 crit = 12, maj = 18
19:09 briceSanc   welcome all, i'm Brice Sanchez (SYS-TECH company, Qu�bec, Canada). I'm on KOHA since 1 month and we work in order to install KOHA in 20 school before July 2011
19:08 thd         briceSanc: welcome
19:08 thd         briceSanc: you are in the meeting
19:08 briceSanc   k
19:07 gmcharlt    briceSanc: no, just regular #koha
19:07 slef        gmcharlt I mean total nos blockers criticals and so on
19:07 briceSanc   is there a special room for General IRC Meeting ?
19:07 wizzyrea    he left his apologies on the wiki
19:07 CGI516      Sorry...didn't know there was a meeting going on.  Thanks
19:07 gmcharlt    chris: about?
19:07 gmcharlt    slef: 4310
19:07 slef        phone not client
19:07 gmcharlt    ok ... moving on to 3.4
19:06 thd         CGI516: after the meeting someone maybe even me will be happy to help.
19:06 slef        what are the bug numbers? Smartphones are good but I can't easily browse and type
19:06 thd         slef: what IRC client has predictive text?
19:06 CGI516      Could anyone help me with creating new z39.50 servers?
19:05 gmcharlt    thd: retaining (and renaming) the previous tables so that the original data is around for manual cleanup if need be
19:05 thd         :)
19:05 slef        debug not death. Predictive text fail
19:04 thd         gmcharlt: What method would be used to work around a migration problem?
19:04 gmcharlt    paul_p (if around) - any update on 3.0?
19:04 slef        I think I'm back on koha end of next week so I'll try to test and death rc1
19:03 gmcharlt    so RC1 by Monday; later than I hoped in July, but the acq bug will be worked around
19:03 sekjal      my comment on the bug report has more details
19:03 sekjal      the patch brings us closer to solving the bug, but I'm still finding a double-transfer issue when the new system preference is set a certain way
19:02 wizzyrea    *cheer*
19:02 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt
19:01 gmcharlt    bug 3536 has a patch that sekjal has been testing
19:01 slef        no worries
19:01 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5099 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Avanced Search page unavailable when OpacGroupResults is used
19:01 gmcharlt    other blockers have resolutions to apply or (like bug 5099) can be downgraded
19:01 thd         sorry
19:01 slef        nope. Maybe next time
19:00 thd         slef: maybe we could still meet if you are returning to the UK via NYC
19:00 thd         slef: I missed your message about being in NYC
19:00 slef        not seen it :-(
19:00 slef        I'm sat under a wifi mast in ocean beach park. Why?
19:00 thd         slef: I sent you an email
18:59 * jcamins   = Jared Camins-Esakov
18:59 slef        damn hot in miami too :-)
18:58 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4310 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, No Migration for budgets from 3.0 to 3.2
18:58 wizzyrea    bug 4310
18:58 thd         slef: where are you at the moment?
18:58 wizzyrea    but 4310
18:58 gmcharlt    3.2 - in terms of blockers, 4310 is the main one with no pending resolution
18:57 VickiTeal   Vicki Teal Lovely, South Central Library System, Madison, WI US
18:57 slef        MJ Ray software.coop member
18:56 jwagner     Jane Wagner, PTFS
18:56 thd         Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York much much too hot City
18:56 sekjal      Ian Walls, ByWater Solutions
18:55 Colin       Colin Campbell - PTFS Europe
18:55 * wizzyrea  Liz Rea - NEKLS
18:55 * cait      = Katrin Fischer, BSZ
18:55 aarkerio    thx!
18:54 * gmcharlt  = Galen Charlton, 3.2 RM
18:54 gmcharlt    starting with intros
18:54 gmcharlt    5. Agree times of next meetings.
18:54 gmcharlt    4. Follow-up on actions from General IRC Meeting, 7 July 2010.
18:54 gmcharlt    3. Update on Roadmap to 3.4.
18:54 gmcharlt    2. Update on Roadmap to 3.0.
18:54 gmcharlt    1.  Update on Roadmap to 3.2.
18:54 gmcharlt    http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_Meeting,_11_August_2010
18:53 gmcharlt    good afternoon/morning/etc
18:52 wizzyrea    he goes over most of the customization options at one point or another in his posts
18:52 wizzyrea    http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?m=200902
18:52 wizzyrea    Owen's blog is a good place to start
18:50 aarkerio    hi! how can I create a CSS theme for OPAC?
18:48 cait        t
18:47 cait        very slow internet connection :( my father moved the access point, hope it will not kick me out :)
18:46 Colin       Hi
18:46 jwagner     Hi cait
18:46 cait        hi #koha
18:41 ricardo     Hi everyone! I'll have a quick dinner now and so, I may "arrive" at the IRC meeting a bit late. Feel free to start without me, though... I'll review the Log when I get back!  :)
18:03 thd         cfouts: nevermind.  I just solved my momentary problem.  High heat impairs my thinking.
17:59 thd         cfouts: are you here in person?
17:07 aarkerio    ubuntu package is old
17:07 wasabi      cpan gives me 'PDF::API2  2.015'
17:06 wasabi      yeah, i  use cpan for that tricky module too
17:06 aarkerio    mmm, I installed using cpan and all is OK, thx!
17:04 aarkerio    I can't installer only shows "recheck" button
17:04 wasabi      ;)
17:04 wasabi      aarkerio: ignore it
17:04 aarkerio    I installed : apt-get install libpdf-api2-perl
17:02 aarkerio    but in fact PDF::API2::Simple is installed
17:02 aarkerio    hi! Inside installer (step 1) I am getting:  Modules in red must be installed before you may continue PDF::API2::Simple
16:43 owen        If I mark a suggestion as "accepted," shouldn't an email message end up in my message_queue table for that patron?
16:40 sekjal      briceSanc: sorry for the delay; had to install some updates and reboot, lest I disappear in the middle of conversation
16:34 schuster    OK thanks that gives me something to play with.  I'm adjusting my code and based on my formating of the code it moves where the "published" goes...
16:32 wizzyrea    not sure what's up with yours.
16:32 wizzyrea    schuster: that worked on mine.
16:28 schuster    OK hmmm I see it adjusted the location based on the HTML coding I had put in to "format" the text in the box.
16:25 schuster    hmmm that removed my widget... but didn't touch the published.
16:23 wizzyrea    yep, opacuserjs
16:23 schuster    I would put that in the opacuserjs? or where?
16:23 wizzyrea    ok.
16:22 owen        That's the only way I know of
16:22 wizzyrea    (i know i know, i should just pull out the table. That works great if you actually have access to your DB.)
16:22 wizzyrea    Is there an "export these preferences as a template" deal anywhere?
16:14 owen        schuster: I think that "published" text was displaying above the table because of invalid markup somewhere (inside your news item?)
16:12 wizzyrea    I knew I was missing something there :P
16:12 owen        $("#news").find("p:contains('published')").hide();
16:11 wizzyrea    (I haven't tested that)
16:10 wizzyrea    $("#news").find("p:contains('published').hide();
16:09 wizzyrea    no
16:09 wizzyrea    erm
16:09 wizzyrea    $("irc://irc.katipo.co.nz/#news").find("p:contains('published').hide();
16:09 wizzyrea    so
16:09 owen        Oh, I thought you were talking about a biblio record
16:09 wizzyrea    don't forget the semicolon, like I did :P
16:08 schuster    There is a table there - as well the widget is in the last column, but World Book Encyclopedia is in a column all by itself and then the "news/description" is in the middle column.
16:08 wizzyrea    $("#news").find("p:contains('published').hide() possibly
16:08 schuster    I want to hide/remove - (published on 08/08/2010)
16:07 schuster    did you go to the catalog.pisd.edu?
16:07 owen        Can you be specific schuster?
16:06 schuster    I'd also like to move the World Book Encyclopedia to above the description if possible.
16:06 schuster    ok yes catalog.pisd.edu
16:06 sekjal      briceSanc: brb
16:03 schuster    Give me a sec.
16:03 wizzyrea    i'm not sure what you're referring to
16:03 schuster    We are going to highlight a database a month using a widget but my boss doesn't want the published on to display.
16:03 owen        Do you have an example I can see?
16:02 schuster    Or for anyone that might be able to help...  I want to hide the published on (8/10/10) in the opac with the notes...  suggestions?  I'm going to have to learn jquery I guess, but not today.
16:02 owen        Yes
16:02 schuster    owen about?  I have a jquery question
15:50 briceSanc   yes it's the -i option
15:42 sekjal      there is a utility in the newer versions of bulkmarcimport to do ISBN matching, but I haven't tried it myself yet
15:42 sekjal      and in answer to your question, when you use bulkmarcimport.pl, it populates both the biblio and biblioitems tables (ISBN living in the biblioitems table)
15:40 sekjal      briceSanc: sounds good
15:40 briceSanc   i will be availaible in 30min
15:40 briceSanc   ok
15:38 sekjal      briceSanc: I'm ready any time before then; I've got a call at 3pm.
15:38 briceSanc   sekjal, ready for the meeting at 3:00pm ?
15:37 briceSanc   hi sekjal !
15:37 briceSanc   When you import biblios with bulkmarcimport.pl : How to manage duplicates ? Because there is no ISBN on biblios
15:37 sekjal      morning, briceSanc
15:36 briceSanc   hello
15:18 * jcamins   read his question as "monocled 008s" only second after writing it
15:17 * chris_n   read jcamins ' question as "non-monogrammed 008s"
14:56 jcamins     monograph, rather
14:56 jcamins     Does Koha have an entry screen for non-mongraph 008s?
14:32 mib_btkt1   any ideas?
14:32 mib_btkt1   That worked out fine for me thanks! One more small thing, I just upgraded to 3.06 and noticed that the "Checked Out to" on the holdings table isn't there anymore, it used to show the current borrowers name
14:04 jcamins     Good luck.
14:04 mib_btkt1   thanks, away I go!!!
14:03 jcamins     The settings are OPACXSLTResultsDisplay and OPACXSLTDetailsDisplay.
14:01 jcamins     Oh, one other thing... you have to make sure that you have the XSLT display enabled.
14:01 owen        (for subject handling)
14:01 owen        Line 384, to be specific
14:01 jcamins     mib_btkt1: look in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl.
14:00 mib_btkt1   Thanks, I just can't find the "Subject (s)" text anywhere in  that document. On a side note, has anyone ever thought of a GUI for adding/removing tags? Something I might look at one day!
13:59 owen        mib_btkt1: The xsl file is the best way to go if you want to get down to handling specific MARC tags and subfields. The sky's the limit, as long as you can figure out the XML
13:58 mib_btkt1   Sorry 856 was just an example! So editing the xsl file is the way to go? What about manipulating existing tags? E.g the Subject(s) is included subfields I want seperated out to other tags etc?
13:56 owen        mib_btkt1: 856 should display already though
13:56 jcamins     mib_btkt1: if you want to change the OPAC display, it's very straightforward if you know XSLT.
13:56 owen        mib_btkt1: Modifying the xsl page is probably the best way to approach it, but it's not exactly simple
13:55 mib_btkt1   Good afternoon. Does anyone know how difficult it is too add other marc tags to OPAC? e.g 856 tag or even custom tags? I was looking at the opac-detail.tmpl and an MARC21 xsl page but nothing!
13:39 owen        No duplicate now, but the link points to the authority search
13:39 owen        Okay, after successfully importing an author authority record at attaching it to a record I'm getting different results than my hand-edited one
13:32 owen        False alarm, I was trying to import the wrong record
13:29 owen        I thought I'd download an authority record from LOC to see if it was my hand-entered authority record that was causing my problem
13:28 jcamins     I never tried it, but I think it's supposed to.
13:26 owen        DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Column 'authtypecode' cannot be null
13:25 owen        Should the bulkmarcimport command line tool work without errors or am I dreaming about that too? :(
13:19 jcamins_a   It's a good dream.
13:18 owen        Should the import tool in the staff client work for authority records, or am I dreaming?
13:15 nengard     sorry - got to run - will be back later
13:14 jcamins_a   Good morning.
13:14 nengard     on the OPAC, XSLT on, detail page for me I see the author links at the top - but i only see them once - not twice ....
13:08 owen        OPAC, XSLT on, detail page.
13:08 nengard     where are you seeing duplicates? I only see one link and in my case it's going to authority
13:07 nengard     let me go see what i get in my system
13:07 nengard     i think it should always do an author search - not an authority search
13:06 nengard     owen, i've seen it, but not as duplicates - i've seen it as one or the other way
13:05 owen        Has anyone else seen this?
13:05 owen        I don't use authorities records outside of testing, so I don't know if this is typical or not
13:02 owen        "?q=an:2"
13:02 owen        One links to the author name (?q=au:Author,Name). The other links to what appears to be an authority search by number?
13:01 owen        The XSLT OPAC detail view shows duplicate author links
13:00 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2585 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, XSLT bib details: search links for authorized names can be incorrect
13:00 owen        I was just testing Bug 2585 to see if it was still an issue, and I'm getting weird results for a record which uses an authority record for its author
12:41 jwagner     Not sure where/what the fix was, but it's OK in both head and harley
12:39 owen        jwagner: Thanks, I knew you were the one who would know
12:38 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5113 normal, P5, ---, jwagner, NEW, Some OPAC search results not hyperlinked in Internet Explorer 8
12:38 jwagner     owen, Bug 5113 -- Kurt's on an older mainstream version.  The problem is fixed in later versions.
12:37 cait        bye all ! :)
12:21 cait        chris: yay it works :)
12:17 cait        hi owen :)
12:13 owen        Hi #koha
11:33 cait        hi paul_p
11:18 smustafa    take care and thanks for helping out :) :)
11:18 smustafa    alright guys, I will be leaving
11:18 smustafa    :)
11:18 paul_p      ( hello cait & smustafa )
11:18 paul_p      chris answers so many questions, that I suspect there are 2 or 3 chris in fact :D
11:17 cait        will be back in a few minutes
11:17 cait        chris++
11:17 cait        yes, he is great
11:17 smustafa    hehe chris helps everyone
11:17 cait        I learned from chris :)
11:16 smustafa    woho
11:16 smustafa    now I learned how to apply file patches also :D
11:16 smustafa    It worked great thank you so much cait
11:13 cait        look ok to me
11:12 smustafa    something like that
11:12 smustafa    oh I see, so I do git am -s -3 -i -u /usr/share/patch_filename.patch
11:12 cait        I would use a branch for testing
11:12 cait        it is not in head yet
11:10 smustafa    shoot let me search git
11:09 smustafa    ahh I have to apply by file? Not remotely?
11:09 smustafa    ok let me see
11:09 cait        click on the link "proposed patch" in the attachemet table at the top of the page to save it as .patch file
11:08 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5092 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, No results when searching by LC Call Number: in Z39.50 Server
11:08 cait        bug 5092
11:08 cait        its attached to the bug
11:07 smustafa    whats the name of your patch?  does it say it in the e-mail?
11:07 smustafa    tehehe
11:07 cait        but don't ask me about the options :)
11:06 cait        git am -s -3 -i -u name_of_patch
11:06 cait        perhaps you want to try to apply it, that's the command I always use:
11:05 smustafa    My director wants that also...
11:05 smustafa    thank you by the way Cait, I will also use the way you implemented it to add another field called search by DLC number
11:04 smustafa    but I did see the code of the patch and I will implement it on my code
11:04 smustafa    :(
11:04 smustafa    Cait, i don't know how to apply patches to my local branch
11:03 cait        smustafa: I wrote a patch for your LC call number search problem - perhaps you want test it
10:50 smustafa    now I am happier than before hehe
10:50 smustafa    thank you :D
10:50 smustafa    its perfect
10:50 chris       cool
10:50 smustafa    let me check the OPAC
10:50 smustafa    it works now :D
10:50 smustafa    thanks alot chris
10:50 chris       then it was doing exactly what you told it to, nothng :)
10:49 smustafa    I think thats why :)
10:49 smustafa    because I used the same machine that had my koha 3.0 before but simply deleted the folder and re-installed the DEV of koha 3.1
10:49 smustafa    I didnt
10:49 chris       -z will be doing something too, if you have changes waiting to be indexed in your zebraqueue
10:49 wasabi      yep, -r is 'reset'
10:49 smustafa    thanks alot dear
10:48 smustafa    that actually did something!!!
10:48 smustafa    wow
10:48 chris       wth the -z switch and without -v it will only update whats been changed (ie whats in the zebraqueue) and with no output, its designed ot be silent to be run as a cron job
10:47 smustafa    let me try
10:47 chris       if no errors, then you need to check you zebrasrv log (assuming zebrasrv is running of course .. search wont work without that) to see the error
10:47 smustafa    sighs..
10:46 chris       and if any errors occur you will see them
10:46 chris       that will reset and rebuild the indexes, in verbose mode
10:46 chris       for the first run
10:45 chris       run it with -a -b -r -v
10:43 smustafa    :( :(
10:43 smustafa    and when I search Koha, still no results show
10:43 smustafa    I get nothing, no errors, no display nothing
10:43 smustafa    When I run rebuild_zebra -a -b -z
10:42 smustafa    I need help with my zebra + koha 3.1 latest
10:42 smustafa    hello everyone...
10:06 cait        thx chris, I will try that
10:06 cait        ah
10:04 chris       so what you need to do is pass that variable through to that template, then set it as a hiddent input
10:03 chris       but when i search, it doesnt (which makes sense because its not set in the form in the template)
10:03 chris       seems to be passing it through for me
10:02 chris       [Wed Aug 11 22:02:10 2010] [error] [client 203.97.214.51] [Wed Aug 11 22:02:10 2010] guarantor_search.pl: C at /home/chris/git/koha.git/members/guarantor_search.pl line 50.
10:00 chris       so you end up at the search box right?
09:59 * chris     will try something
09:58 chris       that looks ok to me
09:54 cait        http://paste.koha-community.org/42
09:52 chris       k
09:51 cait        working on a paste :)
09:48 cait        I tried to pass the category_type as url parameter, but I am not sure how to get this parameter into a variable in search_gurarantor.pl - what I tried is not working :(
09:48 cait        because it does not know if its started from an C or P account
09:47 cait        the problem is, that gurarantor_search.pl always searches for patron category A
09:47 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5003 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Can not search for organisation by name
09:47 cait        ok, bug 5003
09:47 cait        ah :)
09:46 chris       maybe :)
09:46 cait        someone around who wants to help me with a perl problem? :)
09:42 cait        :)
09:35 chris       hi cait
09:28 cait        hi chris
09:20 chris       not that im aware of
09:18 * magnus    wonders if koha has any kind of presence at IFLA2010
07:55 cait        hi magnus :)
07:55 magnus      morning cait
07:51 cait        morning #koha
06:53 wasabi      fyi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_element
06:52 wasabi      reminds me to add 'koha-community.org'  meta-tag stuff to my website...
06:50 magnus      slowly but surely :-)
06:43 chris       moving up slowly :)
06:42 * magnus    finds koha-community.org as hit #4 on google today, after koha.org, wikipedia and some hockey team
04:11 Amit        richard: NZ is good in bowling department
04:10 Amit        hmm
04:04 richard     that is surprising. i didn't realise that nz were in a position to be that high
04:03 Amit        richard: India also loose ODI ranking one NZ 2nd India 3rd
04:02 Amit        hmm only 88 runs it is shameless
04:02 Amit        heya richard
04:01 richard     bit of a towelling for india in the cricket
04:01 richard     hi Amit
03:52 Amit        heya chris
03:03 jcamins     Yeah, I guess.
03:03 chris       if you are gonna lock ppl in, the point is to make the lock difficult to pick
03:02 chris       i think so
03:02 jcamins     I guess maybe that was the point.
03:02 chris       yup
03:01 jcamins     What a mess, upgrading.
03:00 jcamins     Heh.
03:00 chris       sure fixing typos is good, but if its lasted 9 years, i think we could just leave it :)
03:00 chris       just another thing to make reintegration hard
02:59 chris       i do know that one of hte things LEK did, is rename db columns
02:59 jcamins     I just read that e-mail. It does seem odd.
02:58 jcamins     Good.
02:58 chris       ppl bounce in and out a lot
02:58 chris       jcamins: you arent even noticeable in the noise of everyone else ;)
02:57 jcamins     Network troubles, and we weren't able to log in long enough to disable autorecon.
02:57 jcamins     If my nick has been bobbing on and off IRC, I do apologize.
02:52 chris       im pretty sure that Christopher White is not actually running Koha
01:37 * chris     goes back to rfp
01:36 chris       try that
01:35 chris       both of whom will be asleep
01:35 chris       gmcharlt or brendan
01:35 chris       yeah someone one something rebooted the server, gitweb is up, the gitserver isnt
01:00 robin       larsw: hola
01:00 larsw       hi, robin
00:55 robin       fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused)
00:55 robin       git.koha-community.org[0: 174.143.233.17]: errno=Connection refused
00:55 robin       Fetching kc
00:55 robin       Who runs the Koha git server?