Time  Nick      Message
22:54 aarkerio  mmm I found: libtext-aspell-perl
22:52 aarkerio  Ubuntu 10.04 koha 3.0
22:52 aarkerio  hi! I am getting:  [error] [client 189.216.186.114] HTML::Template::Pro:in TMPL_LOOP at pos 232
22:24 reva      jcamins: thanks and good evening. I will test the bywater demo and get back here about the 110 field if I encounter issues. Bye.
22:21 reva      jcamins: I mean, when I click on 0xx (well the leader and the directory, I believe) Koha fills in some default like for n for new etc. I know I can click on the ellipses for the drop down menu and pick the letters to fill in, say for prepublication, etc. Ok, you just answered my question. It is just I am training non-library staff on MARC and it will be uphill all the way if I were to go into Leader characters and what they mean.
22:21 jcamins   I'm going to head home now. Hopefully that answered your question.
22:20 jcamins   I think the absence of a Leader may be a LibLime thing, because I certainly am modifying the Leader every time I catalog an item.
22:17 jcamins   What do you mean?
22:16 reva      jcamins: thanks. Just wanted to make sure I am not missing any tricks. The second question about all those Leader minutiae? Would our small library be remain isolated from the WAIS if we do not fill in all those and leave it to default?
22:15 jcamins   I don't know the answer to your other question.
22:12 jcamins   reva: unfortunately there does not seem to be a way to reorder tags within Koha.
22:11 reva      We are currently running 3.0.6 through VirtualBox. It has not hard disk installed yet. Another couple of questions: 1) is there a way to reorder the tags just like you do subfields, like say, 504 (bib notes) before 500 (general notes) 2) Is MFHD on the way to dying  in the New Generation ILS?
22:08 reva      brendon: thanks.
22:08 chris     not that im aware of, there will be once 3.2.0 is released im sure
22:08 reva      chris: so that should be ok. I will test and get back here. I have been to bywater site once; it pretty much looked like the liblime demo at the time I tried. Maybe with these later version it is different. Is there a Live CD for 3.1.x or 3.2?
22:06 chris     (most people are concentrating on 3.1.x as 3.2.0 is due for release any day now)
22:06 brendan   I believe the demo is 3.1.144
22:06 brendan   no 3.0.6 site up
22:06 chris     bywater runs it, so brendan will know for sure .. brendan do you have a 3.0.6 site up too?
22:05 chris     3.1.x
22:05 reva      chris: thanks, I will check it out. Do you know the version of the demo at the Koha site?
22:05 chris     (the official koha site, since the old one was hijacked ... )
22:05 chris     koha-community.org
22:04 reva      I did not know that the Koha.org had demos.!
22:04 * chris   goes back to editing rfps
22:04 reva      Anyhow, I will be running the Open Source 3.0.6. (we are in the process of testing the Live CD version of it.)
22:04 chris     there are demos linked here, that use actual Koha
22:04 chris     http://koha-community.org/
22:03 chris     theres a tip :)
22:03 chris     if i was you, id use real koha
22:03 reva      chris: may be you have a good guess. Because I have gotten tips here that has worked in Liblime demo.
22:02 chris     ahhh we don't know much about the Liblime stuff im afraid reva, it has diverged from Koha
22:01 reva      Hello and good evening. anyone tell me why 110 tag (corporate author entry) is not showing up in the display at all? I can edit it laright, and I have been careful with the indicators both in 110 and 245. I am using Koha express liblime demo. Thanks. May be I have to "turn something on" under configuration?
22:01 larsw     darling, :)
22:00 chris     heh
21:58 * darling tries to type into RFPs
21:58 darling   (sorry, it's cheesecake day, getting a little giddy)
21:57 darling   then we can use it as evidence against you later
21:55 larsw     darling, taping would be a good idea, yes
21:55 larsw     hah, you're making use of my zombie state when I'm vulnerabule and likely to volunteer for stuff :)
21:52 chris     oh yeah i think there would be
21:52 darling   probably, but I'll want to tape it this time -- I can imagine it would have a wider audience than just Cat tho
21:51 larsw     I wonder if there's interest in a re-run of the packaging tutorial.. in case I have time for that before I leave NZ for good
21:51 darling   cool
21:51 larsw     nope, just returned to Wellingotn about 57 minutes ago
21:50 darling   you still in americaland?
21:50 larsw     hi, darling :)
21:50 darling   er, read your..
21:50 darling   reading your packagy presentation
21:50 darling   larsw!
21:44 larsw     chris, yup
21:43 chris     heya larsw ... back in nz?
21:43 * larsw   waves
21:41 chris     i think installing the 3.2 beta is the way to go then
21:40 chris     cool, that's great
21:39 aarkerio  Is my first day with Koha so I hope learn a little more and help in the next weeks
21:38 chris     the stable release of 3.2 is due very soon, it might be worth waiting for that, however there is still quite a bit of translating to do for that, so if you wanted to install the beta and use it to test the translation that would be great :)
21:37 aarkerio  should I install koha 3.2?
21:35 chris     excellent :)
21:35 aarkerio  I will!
21:35 chris     you can also help translating
21:35 chris     no worries
21:34 aarkerio  thx chris !
21:33 chris     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client
21:32 chris     the all-translations version, it will have the po files for spanish
21:32 chris     from here http://download.koha-community.org/
21:31 chris     if you get koha 3.0.6
21:31 chris     http://translate.koha.org/es/
21:31 aarkerio  hi!  how can I get Koha in spanish?
21:25 chris     heya brendan
21:23 brendan   heya chris wizzyrea
21:23 munin     brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 20.4�C (2:27 PM PDT on August 09, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling).
21:23 brendan   @wunder 93117
21:21 chris     sup bro
20:58 wizzyrea  :) np
20:58 CGI260    thank you bro
20:58 wizzyrea  if you're into that
20:57 wizzyrea  certainly we can help you some, but these people you can pay: http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/
20:57 CGI260    hello, is anyone that can install for me koha on my server?
20:51 munin     jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 31.2�C (4:55 PM EDT on August 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling).  Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM EDT Tuesday... 
20:51 jcamins   @wunder 11105
20:31 richard   hi
20:28 cait      bye all
20:28 cait      sleepy
19:59 * owen    *thought* he'd gotten things working last time
19:59 * owen    never tackles this with quite enough brain power
19:58 owen      Hm, now that you mention it I wonder where I left off with that...
19:57 jcamins   owen: the zebraqueue daemon didn't manage to get started, right?
19:57 wizzyrea  now, even
19:57 wizzyrea  sometimes the git workflow just needs to be explained. I know I understand it quite a lot better nwo
19:56 wizzyrea  owen: i actually referred a web developer friend to your blog on git/branches this weekend
19:56 owen      Still trying to figure out why zebra isn't working in my 3.0.x installation
19:55 pastebot  "owen" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Anything look wrong here?" (54 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/40
19:48 cait      yep, I never thought about renaming the branches
19:47 owen      I'm glad it sounded useful. I was half expecting someone to chime in "That's a dumb way to do it."
19:46 cait      owen: I use your naming scheme for branches now :)
19:46 chris     Thanks
19:45 cait      wb chris :)
19:44 chris     Back from the bus
19:44 owen      No need to apologize. I was happy to give it a shot
19:44 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5103 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Dates in MARC details not formatted correctly
19:44 cait      owen: sorry for bug 5103 - you are right, that's why I was not able to fix it - had no idea how to do it
19:43 jcamins   And a nice change from my usual repertoire.
19:43 jcamins   Still very tasty.
19:43 jcamins   Yeah, I could taste it when the cookies were hot, but not so much when they were cool.
19:42 wizzyrea  but they were really good.
19:42 wizzyrea  :)
19:42 wizzyrea  I put in the requisite amount of curry... and could barely taste it
19:42 wizzyrea  jcamins: I finally made the cookies
19:41 * cait    waits and listens
19:41 cait      someone else around here wants his ohloh account added to about.pl?
19:41 jcamins   I like cooking in large quantities.
19:41 jcamins   When it's not zucchini products, it's something else.
19:41 cait      not sure if I should be glad or sad that there is no chocolate in this apartment
19:41 jcamins   Definitely a bigger freezer.
19:40 * jwagner thinks jcamins needs either a bigger freezer or less zucchini
19:40 cait      chocolate... *sighs*
19:40 jcamins   Anyway, my fiancee has told me to stop leaving so much unhealthy baked goods around the apartment.
19:40 jcamins   jwagner: my freezer is too full of zucchini bread.
19:40 * owen    hops in the car
19:40 jwagner   jcamins, that's what freezers are for, isn't it?
19:39 jcamins   It's really good, but I have a giant cake, and it's only me in the apartment.
19:39 jcamins   Speaking of chocolate, if anyone happens to be in NYC today or tomorrow, I'll give you some chocolate zucchini cake.
19:38 jwagner   Or maybe a food bribery answer, like "Only if I get chocolate!"
19:38 jwagner   eightball needs a food distraction answer too, I think.
19:37 cait      yeah, I think exactly that will happen...
19:37 owen      :D
19:37 munin     cait: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
19:37 cait      @eightball will I finish text for flyer tomorrow?
19:36 owen      Someone could do "user-999" and break someone's heart
19:36 munin     cait: Error: "sees" is not a valid command.
19:36 cait      munin sees all...
19:36 munin     cait: Karma for "owen" has been increased 145 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 140.
19:36 cait      @karma owen
19:36 cait      owen+++
19:35 cait      perhaps with a lot of ++++?
19:35 owen      It wouldn't be fair to be able to do that
19:35 munin     cait: Karma for "owen" has been increased 145 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 140.
19:35 cait      @karma owen
19:35 cait      owen+5
19:35 jcamins   Well, I tried. ;)
19:35 jcamins   Nope.
19:35 munin     jcamins: Karma for "owen" has been increased 145 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 140.
19:35 jcamins   @karma owen
19:35 jcamins   Does that work?
19:35 jcamins   owen+=5 # to offset the phenomenal unfairness
19:35 owen      it's okay, it builds character!
19:34 cait      not me, I think owen is great :)
19:34 * owen    feels 5 cold stabs in the heart
19:34 jwagner   OK, who had the nerve to decrease owen's karma???
19:34 cait      thought so :)
19:33 munin     cait: Karma for "owen" has been increased 145 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 140.
19:33 cait      @karma owen
19:17 cait      ah ok
19:17 owen      Not a big deal I guess, unless it gets spammy for some reason
19:16 owen      My library might have Suggestions turned off, but if someone who knows Koha finds our site they could enter the URL for the suggestions page
19:15 cait      and why would you want to hide it?
19:15 cait      perhaps you can make it require login? I think there is a flag or something you can set?
19:15 cait      owen: odder?
19:15 owen      cait: I didn't think *anything* was done to prevent access to such pages
19:15 cait      there are odder things in Koha's code
19:14 cait      no, not after fixing my last 2 bugs
19:14 jwagner   Does anyone else find this odd?
19:14 jwagner   On the memberentrygen.tmpl, the Alternate Address section is labeled <fieldset class="rows" id="memberentry_address">, and the Alternate Contact section is labeled <fieldset class="rows" id="memberentry_altaddress">
19:13 owen      I'm happy to use an acquisition-date-sorted query of the regular catalog
19:13 cait      tag cloud, authority search etc.
19:13 cait      how is it done for the other pages, like tags?
19:13 owen      No, just curious about it
19:12 cait      you are porting the feature to 3.2?
19:12 owen      Particularly since "OpacRecentAcquisitions" isn't listed in system preferences
19:11 cait      die() is not very nice
19:11 owen      Do we have a nicer method for blocking access to OPAC pages for which the feature has been disabled?
19:11 owen      in 3.0.x's opac-recentacquisitions.pl, "die() unless C4::Context->preference("OpacRecentAcquisitions");
19:09 jwagner   The example I was trying to follow had .legend, not just legend.
19:09 cait      ;)
19:09 cait      karma yay :)
19:09 jwagner   cait++
19:09 jwagner   cait, YAY!!! It works!!!  Thanks
19:08 cait      morning chris :)
19:07 cait      jwagner: does it work?
19:06 owen      Thanks chris--I see Koha errors there
19:06 cait      $("#memberentry_address legend").html("Dumdidu");
19:05 chris     owen: you checked the main error log also?
19:01 cait      I think I have a snippet that might work, I use it to help with me out with untranslatable things
19:00 cait      give me a sec, have to start vb first
19:00 jwagner   Both Alternate address and Alternate contact
19:00 cait      which one do you want to change?
19:00 jwagner   But how do I just change the section header wording?  I've tried variations on html & legend & contains with no luck
18:59 jwagner   Darn it, I can hide a section on the patron edit page like this: $("#entryform #memberentry_altaddress").remove();
18:57 cait      :)
18:57 jwagner   But probably more interesting!
18:57 jwagner   Of course, my definitions might not be the same as in a proper dictionary....
18:56 cait      sounds like a good rule to me :)
18:56 jwagner   If I use the term, I should define it, right?
18:55 cait      jwagner: living dictionary - cool :)
18:55 jwagner   cait, colloquial for curse
18:55 * cait    goes to look up cuss
18:55 owen      I welcome any suggestions
18:55 owen      My log file problems are not permissions-related. Got those sorted out and still nothing in the log
18:54 * jwagner proposes a daily IRC cussing session.
18:54 * owen    cusses out his error logs, or lack thereof
18:54 * owen    comes to jquery's defense
18:49 * jwagner cusses out jquery
18:39 jcamins   Hi cait
18:38 cait      hi #koha
17:43 nengard   oh boy - just had a scare - weekly Facebook email said that Koha ILS page had -687 fans since last week!! And that there were no more left, but that's not true :)
17:27 kf        bye all, bbl
17:00 kf        owen: ok
16:54 owen      I guess so: the files are owned by root
16:53 owen      Could it be some kind of permissions problem?
16:53 owen      I've checked the path to the log files in the conf file and they're correct
16:53 kf        paul_p: booked hotel today :)
16:53 owen      The sys pref only controls whether errors are displayed onscreen. They should always get written to the log as far as I know
16:52 kf        there is a setting for detail of error messages - not sure it has really something to do with it
16:52 kf        hm perhaps the sys pref setting?
16:50 owen      Anyone know why my 3.0.x installation would not be writing errors to the logs?
16:50 kf        owen: can I break this construction to more lines?
16:47 paul_p    <if opadd><if name="I">Add Organisation</if><else>Modify Organisation</if>
16:47 kf        such things drive me crazy
16:47 kf        it's not working, and add is used in a lot of places, so can not translate it differently
16:46 kf        I can not start the sentence with the verb in German
16:46 paul_p    nested tmpl_if I think...
16:46 kf        yep
16:46 paul_p    ah, ok, gotcha
16:46 kf        add ... variable .... patron
16:46 * paul_p  happy to announce that the travelling-ticket for Auckland is bought for hdl & me ;-)
16:45 paul_p    kf, this one is correct, isn't it ? or where is the problem
16:44 kf        hm looks better here than in the template :)
16:44 kf        uh
16:44 kf        <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="opadd" -->	Add<!-- TMPL_ELSE --> Modify<!--/TMPL_IF--> <!--TMPL_IF Name="categoryname"--> <!--TMPL_VAR Name="categoryname"--> patron<!-- TMPL_ELSE --><!--TMPL_IF Name="I"--> Organization patron<!--/TMPL_IF --><!--TMPL_IF Name="A"--> Adult patron<!--/TMPL_IF --><!--TMPL_IF Name="C"--> Child patron<!--/TMPL_IF --><!--TMPL_IF Name="P"--> Professional patron<!--/TMPL_IF --><!--TMPL_IF Name="S"--> Staff patron<!--/TMPL_IF --><!--/TMPL_IF --><!--TMP
16:44 kf        the next line is more difficult
16:43 paul_p    kf, no objection,  and it'll be usefull for most languages I think !
16:42 kf        and it will make my life a lot easier
16:42 kf        good :) just being careful
16:41 kf        or any objections? there are some constructions like that
16:41 owen      Of course
16:41 kf        can I change it to <legend><!--TMPL_IF Name="I"-->Organization identity<!--TMPL_ELSE-->Patron identity<!--/TMPL_IF--></legend>?
16:41 kf        this is not translatable (yes it is, but as single strings and it makes no sense in German)
16:40 kf        <legend><!--TMPL_IF Name="I"-->Organization <!--TMPL_ELSE-->Patron <!--/TMPL_IF-->identity</legend>
16:40 kf        owen: template question :)
16:38 mib_hc9r6 ok....thanks for all your help.
16:38 kf        shoudl be fixed
16:37 kf        paul_p: perhaps update the bug that this is in 3.06 but not in 3.2
16:37 paul_p    oups. not tomorrow, he'll be away. But on wed, he should be here
16:37 paul_p    iirc, the patch has been rejected by galen. mib_hc9r6 you should ask nahuel tomorrow (today, it's 7PM in france, so he's not here anymore)
16:37 kf        no, it's not a complete rewrite
16:35 mib_hc9r6 I'm confused...it's in 3.06, is 3.2 a complete rewrite?
16:35 munin     04Bug 3710: enhancement, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, NEW, New script for recent acquisitions
16:35 owen      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3710
16:35 kf        would be my guess
16:35 kf        never added
16:35 kf        it was not removed
16:32 mib_hc9r6 eek, customer not going to be too happy!!! Any ideas why it was removed?
16:32 owen      mib_hc9r6: Actually that page will not even exist in 3.2!
16:32 mib_hc9r6 ah, I see!
16:32 jcamins   Ah. That explains why I've never seen it before. I don't know anything about it, then. :(
16:32 mib_hc9r6 ? - you mean it'll be sorted (is sorted) in 3.2?
16:31 owen      Ah, it's a 3.0.x-only thing jcamins
16:29 mib_hc9r6 http://x.x.x.x:8080/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/recentacquisitions.pl
16:29 owen      What is the URL of the page you're looking at?
16:29 mib_hc9r6 3.06
16:29 owen      mib_hc9r6: What version are you running?
16:29 mib_hc9r6 there is a page for recent acquisitions, that's were I'm having the problems!
16:28 jcamins   I think owen had a blog post about setting up an RSS feed for that, didn't he?
16:28 mib_hc9r6 sorry, recent acq
16:28 kf        although it would be nice to have a page for recent acquisitions :)
16:27 kf        there is none
16:24 jcamins   I'm not sure. I can't find any page like that.
16:22 kf        ah, I thought he means recently cataloged titles
16:21 jcamins   mib_hc9r6: where is the recent additions page?
16:21 mib_hc9r6 I did, that's what I meant above, sorry, should have been more clear!
16:21 kf        http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
16:20 kf        perhaps use -r option to rebuild from scratch
16:20 mib_hc9r6 thanks
16:20 mib_hc9r6 thansl
16:20 kf        let me search the links for you
16:20 mib_hc9r6 The dups are gone but this remains!
16:20 kf        normally an index problem, there is a faq about that
16:20 mib_hc9r6 I though this might be conencted so I rebuild the indexes
16:19 mib_hc9r6 a strange thing happened just after the install where duplicate bibs where appearing on the search
16:19 kf        hm
16:19 mib_hc9r6 yeah, and I have even rebuild them this afternoon just to test
16:18 kf        have you set up rebuild_zebra with -b -z as cronjob?
16:18 kf        look like an indexing problem
16:14 mib_hc9r6 Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1269.
16:14 mib_hc9r6 I'm pushing my luck here but any idea why Recent Additions shows this error:
16:10 mib_hc9r6 Thanks, I am just wondering turning this on fixed something else! we'll see how it goes!
16:07 kf        mib_hc9r6: it's for libraries with only 1 branch, where it does not make sense to have this information
16:07 kf        mib_hc9r6: it hides the branches in multiple places - with single branch on there is no facet for libraries in facetted searching, no pickup location field for holds etc.
16:06 kf        nengard - there is a serious bugs with opac holds and singlebranchmode
16:06 kf        holds are not working
15:54 mib_hc9r6 Thanks, I will look into why it was on!
15:52 nengard   if there are multiple branches, it's good that you turned it off - i know there are a few bugs that mention that preference (I don't remember all the issues)
15:47 mib_hc9r6 Yes it was on, that has resolved the problem. any ideas if that will effect anything else? there are 2 branches, not sure why that was on
15:46 mib_hc9r6 I will check....
15:43 kf        mib_hc9r6 not easy to type
15:41 kf        mib_hc936: have you set singlebranchmode to on?
15:41 kf        jwagner: if nothing has changed since 3.01.61 - or one mail for each item. We use digest for our libraries.
15:38 kf        jwagner: I think item due digest only works with count
15:19 mib_hc9r6 Could anyone suggest why my Location is always empty on the holding screen in OPAC? It's fine in staffpac. version is 3.06
15:07 jwagner   I don't usually set the DUE msg up to run, was hoping to hear from someone who does run it what the "real" behavior is.
15:07 jwagner   Overdues group everything together, but maybe the DUE messages don't, because they're not processed by a cron like the overdues.
15:06 jwagner   To the best of my knowledge, (pending some current devel I think), the digest messages can only give a count: You have <<count>> items due.
15:05 nengard   but you're saying it's either a number of total due OR one item per email?
15:04 nengard   what i'm saying is that i thought the digest listed them all in one and the regular listed one title at a time
15:03 jwagner   That's what I thought too, but I'm seeing separate emails for each title.
15:03 nengard   :)
15:03 nengard   which means I too need clarification for documentation purposes
15:02 nengard   i thought it listed everything in one email ... maybe i misunderstood what it does
15:02 jwagner   nengard, but digest just gives a count, doesn't it?
14:59 briceSanc because i'm testing the z39.50 search
14:58 briceSanc is "z3950daemon" still exists in koha 3.2 ?
14:48 nengard   yup - you have to choose digest to get them all in one email
14:48 nengard   jwagner, you have to choose the digest option don't you? I'll go check and see if there is a digest option
14:39 jwagner   Hmmm.  I thought the Item Due Reminder was supposed to send out one message for everything due today <<items.content>> -- can anyone confirm?  I'm seeing at least one case where it's sending a separate email for each item that's due on the same day.
14:31 briceSanc goooood moorrrrning Koha 1
14:30 owen      Hi wizzyrea
14:30 wizzyrea  good morning
14:28 owen      Hm... English strings in tags.js. Those won't be getting translated.
14:11 magnus    oh well... ;-)
14:10 magnus    hm probably not...
14:09 nengard   magnus, I don't know if you have admin rights to 'move' pages - which is how you 'rename' pages on mediawiki
13:45 magnus    or i could do it some day, if you think it's a good idea
13:43 nengard   this is true, maybe I'll go through and rename them one day :) hehe
13:43 magnus    nengard: cool! but it has to be edited by hand... if the names of meetings started with the date like yyyy-mm-dd it would get sorted on the category page. just a thought...
13:41 nengard   the page I sent is the organized one
13:41 nengard   that's just a category - and it sorts automatically in alpha - i agree it's a lot going on
13:41 nengard   magnus - how about like this? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings  :)
13:36 * magnus  thinks this page could be more helpful: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:IRC_Meetings
13:36 nengard   time for some breakfast - be back soon
13:35 nengard   maybe i'm wrong - but i think there are still blockers ... right?
13:34 nengard   release
13:34 jwagner   the meeting, or the release?
13:34 nengard   hmm - not sure that's going to happen .. tomorrow that is
13:33 jwagner   At the last dev meeting, it was said it would be ready by the next dev meeting, which is tomorrow, I think.
13:30 owen      mib_hc9r6: I know many of us were hoping this month. Note that several libraries are already running in production right now
13:19 mib_hc9r6 Hello all, does anyone have a rough idea when 3.2 might go stable?......roughly!
13:09 * owen    feels the sting of nengard's whip
13:08 nengard   Just a reminder that I need newsletter articles by the 13th so I can get the newsletter out on time - I only have 2 articles so far - so think up some tips or announcements and email them to me
12:42 nengard   monday morning open source humor: http://osliving.com/sourced/open-source-humor/open-source-culture-as-seen-through-comic-strips/
12:40 owen      It's arbitrary though, and not required.
12:40 owen      If I have three items attached to one bibliographic record I might want to label them Copy 1, Copy 2, and Copy 3
12:39 dritan    what is Copy number
12:36 owen      dritan: You should have a separate item record for each copy
12:35 dritan    i want to know how set number of copies to a record on koha
12:34 dritan    hello
12:25 kf        it takes a while to get used to it, but you get faster remembering the vocabulary by time
12:23 kf        and only then I realized how difficult German is, they have even 2 more cases
12:23 jwagner   Dunno about trying to learn Japanese.  I sang with a chorale group one year and we performed several Japanese songs.  But only the Japanese members knew what we were singing.  The rest of us just had to learn it syllable by syllable.
12:23 kf        I learned Russian at school
12:22 jwagner   English doesn't have that so it was a big conceptual leap.
12:22 kf        jwagner: you should try japanese - no problems with gender there
12:21 kf        jwagner: true :)
12:20 jwagner   Not so much that, but the genders.  I had already struggled with the concept learning French that nouns have masculine and feminine genders.  German added a third neutral gender to the mix!
12:20 kf        but wait until you hear me speak English - not sure how this will work out.  :)
12:19 kf        declensions and cases
12:18 jwagner   I know German really confused me when I was trying to learn it.
12:15 kf        I think English is a lot easier than German
12:15 * owen    would not want to have to learn English the hard way
12:15 kf        I knew it did sound strange
12:15 kf        thx owen :)
12:14 owen      furthest from the printer
12:14 owen      "furthest"
12:14 kf        can you say most far away?
12:13 kf        *sighs* I swear my office is most far away from the printer :(
12:13 kf        ah, now I know why I walked down the hall... print outs
12:13 kf        :)
12:13 nengard   the difference between a librarian and a non-librarian - I have the docs all filed neatly
12:12 kf        but west plaza is a bit more expensive - hope travelodge will be ok to
12:12 nengard   was just emailing hubby to ask him to find me the confirmation cause I booked the flight and he did the hotel
12:12 nengard   Thank you Chris!!! :) hehe
12:12 nengard   morning owen
12:12 kf        chris :)
12:12 nengard   how do you know where I am? I can't find my confirmation :) hehe
12:12 kf        ;)
12:12 kf        nengard: you are in west plaza, I am in travelodge
12:07 nengard   I forget which one we're in ... off to check my records
12:07 nengard   kf which hotel did you choose?
12:07 nengard   hehe
11:58 * jwagner thanks kf, but would rather get plane tickets :-)
11:55 * kf      sends jwagner a chocolate chip cookie
11:48 kf        ooh :(
11:47 * jwagner is jealous
11:47 kf        :)
11:47 kf        flight booked, hotel booked
11:47 * kf      is happy
11:47 kf        no
11:45 jwagner   sounds ....painful
11:44 * kf      is bouncing bit
11:37 jwagner   Hi kf
11:36 kf        hi jwagner :)
11:24 jwagner   Morning Amit
11:23 Amit      heya jwagner
10:04 kf        hi Amit
10:04 chris     hi Amit
10:03 Amit      heya chris, kf
09:13 magnus    kf++
09:13 magnus    good idea!
09:13 kf        ok, i will ask around a bit more and send a patch :)
09:12 magnus    oh, please do!
09:12 kf        magnus: I wanted to add my ohloh account to the about page - want me to add yours too?
09:12 magnus    hiya kf, chris and #koha
09:11 kf        hi magnus
09:11 chris     heh
09:11 * magnus  started Colloquy, forgot to join #koha...
08:32 kf        oh, not online
08:32 kf        magnus: around?
08:31 kf        hi paul_p :)
08:26 chris     hi paul_p i hope the holiday was good
08:25 * paul_p  is back from holiday. good morning world !!!!
08:21 kf        ok
08:11 chris     certainly addng yours is fine, probably nicest to ask others before you do though
08:10 kf        do you think it's ok to add some more links to ohloh to the about page? not sure if I should ask people first, but wanted to add mine and noticed some other are missing too
08:09 kf        hi chris
08:01 chris     evening
06:44 alex_a    good morning kf
06:43 kf        good morning hdl and alex_a
05:35 kf        robin: patch applied :) works great (as expected)
05:29 kf        later :)
05:29 * robin   has to head off now, later!
05:29 robin     cool :)
05:28 robin     in this case, it was that the thousands seperator was being set, but not the one specifically for money. And so, it was pulling the default from the locale.
05:28 kf        it's working... still really early here
05:28 kf        it's not that I don't believe it's work - more that I want to learn how it works :)
05:27 kf        perfect :)
05:26 robin     well, 10000.00
05:26 robin     Yeah, that's what it does.
05:26 kf        like in every other place in koha
05:26 kf        I think it should show as 10000
05:26 kf        but not sure what has changed now :)
05:26 kf        yep I know how it looks
05:25 robin     You should know, you reported the bug in the first place :)
05:24 robin     well, the problem was it was populating the edit box with (e.g.) 10,000.00, which wasn't valid if you hit save.
05:24 kf        but not sure how your change affects the format for editing - will test it :)
05:23 kf        :)
05:23 kf        right
05:23 robin     kf: no, not for editing. For display, sure, but with editing it's best to be as simple as possible.
05:22 kf        I think the formatting shoudl follow the sys pref
05:22 kf        robin: looking at it, not sure I understand it and wondering
05:22 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4500 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Cant edit budget because of currency formatting
05:22 robin     kf: just upstreamed a patch you may be interested in: bug 4500
05:21 kf        good morning #koha