Time Nick Message 22:54 aarkerio mmm I found: libtext-aspell-perl 22:52 aarkerio Ubuntu 10.04 koha 3.0 22:52 aarkerio hi! I am getting: [error] [client 189.216.186.114] HTML::Template::Pro:in TMPL_LOOP at pos 232 22:24 reva jcamins: thanks and good evening. I will test the bywater demo and get back here about the 110 field if I encounter issues. Bye. 22:21 reva jcamins: I mean, when I click on 0xx (well the leader and the directory, I believe) Koha fills in some default like for n for new etc. I know I can click on the ellipses for the drop down menu and pick the letters to fill in, say for prepublication, etc. Ok, you just answered my question. It is just I am training non-library staff on MARC and it will be uphill all the way if I were to go into Leader characters and what they mean. 22:21 jcamins I'm going to head home now. Hopefully that answered your question. 22:20 jcamins I think the absence of a Leader may be a LibLime thing, because I certainly am modifying the Leader every time I catalog an item. 22:17 jcamins What do you mean? 22:16 reva jcamins: thanks. Just wanted to make sure I am not missing any tricks. The second question about all those Leader minutiae? Would our small library be remain isolated from the WAIS if we do not fill in all those and leave it to default? 22:15 jcamins I don't know the answer to your other question. 22:12 jcamins reva: unfortunately there does not seem to be a way to reorder tags within Koha. 22:11 reva We are currently running 3.0.6 through VirtualBox. It has not hard disk installed yet. Another couple of questions: 1) is there a way to reorder the tags just like you do subfields, like say, 504 (bib notes) before 500 (general notes) 2) Is MFHD on the way to dying in the New Generation ILS? 22:08 reva brendon: thanks. 22:08 chris not that im aware of, there will be once 3.2.0 is released im sure 22:08 reva chris: so that should be ok. I will test and get back here. I have been to bywater site once; it pretty much looked like the liblime demo at the time I tried. Maybe with these later version it is different. Is there a Live CD for 3.1.x or 3.2? 22:06 chris (most people are concentrating on 3.1.x as 3.2.0 is due for release any day now) 22:06 brendan I believe the demo is 3.1.144 22:06 brendan no 3.0.6 site up 22:06 chris bywater runs it, so brendan will know for sure .. brendan do you have a 3.0.6 site up too? 22:05 chris 3.1.x 22:05 reva chris: thanks, I will check it out. Do you know the version of the demo at the Koha site? 22:05 chris (the official koha site, since the old one was hijacked ... ) 22:05 chris koha-community.org 22:04 reva I did not know that the Koha.org had demos.! 22:04 * chris goes back to editing rfps 22:04 reva Anyhow, I will be running the Open Source 3.0.6. (we are in the process of testing the Live CD version of it.) 22:04 chris there are demos linked here, that use actual Koha 22:04 chris http://koha-community.org/ 22:03 chris theres a tip :) 22:03 chris if i was you, id use real koha 22:03 reva chris: may be you have a good guess. Because I have gotten tips here that has worked in Liblime demo. 22:02 chris ahhh we don't know much about the Liblime stuff im afraid reva, it has diverged from Koha 22:01 reva Hello and good evening. anyone tell me why 110 tag (corporate author entry) is not showing up in the display at all? I can edit it laright, and I have been careful with the indicators both in 110 and 245. I am using Koha express liblime demo. Thanks. May be I have to "turn something on" under configuration? 22:01 larsw darling, :) 22:00 chris heh 21:58 * darling tries to type into RFPs 21:58 darling (sorry, it's cheesecake day, getting a little giddy) 21:57 darling then we can use it as evidence against you later 21:55 larsw darling, taping would be a good idea, yes 21:55 larsw hah, you're making use of my zombie state when I'm vulnerabule and likely to volunteer for stuff :) 21:52 chris oh yeah i think there would be 21:52 darling probably, but I'll want to tape it this time -- I can imagine it would have a wider audience than just Cat tho 21:51 larsw I wonder if there's interest in a re-run of the packaging tutorial.. in case I have time for that before I leave NZ for good 21:51 darling cool 21:51 larsw nope, just returned to Wellingotn about 57 minutes ago 21:50 darling you still in americaland? 21:50 larsw hi, darling :) 21:50 darling er, read your.. 21:50 darling reading your packagy presentation 21:50 darling larsw! 21:44 larsw chris, yup 21:43 chris heya larsw ... back in nz? 21:43 * larsw waves 21:41 chris i think installing the 3.2 beta is the way to go then 21:40 chris cool, that's great 21:39 aarkerio Is my first day with Koha so I hope learn a little more and help in the next weeks 21:38 chris the stable release of 3.2 is due very soon, it might be worth waiting for that, however there is still quite a bit of translating to do for that, so if you wanted to install the beta and use it to test the translation that would be great :) 21:37 aarkerio should I install koha 3.2? 21:35 chris excellent :) 21:35 aarkerio I will! 21:35 chris you can also help translating 21:35 chris no worries 21:34 aarkerio thx chris ! 21:33 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client 21:32 chris the all-translations version, it will have the po files for spanish 21:32 chris from here http://download.koha-community.org/ 21:31 chris if you get koha 3.0.6 21:31 chris http://translate.koha.org/es/ 21:31 aarkerio hi! how can I get Koha in spanish? 21:25 chris heya brendan 21:23 brendan heya chris wizzyrea 21:23 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 20.4�C (2:27 PM PDT on August 09, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling). 21:23 brendan @wunder 93117 21:21 chris sup bro 20:58 wizzyrea :) np 20:58 CGI260 thank you bro 20:58 wizzyrea if you're into that 20:57 wizzyrea certainly we can help you some, but these people you can pay: http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ 20:57 CGI260 hello, is anyone that can install for me koha on my server? 20:51 munin jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 31.2�C (4:55 PM EDT on August 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM EDT Tuesday... 20:51 jcamins @wunder 11105 20:31 richard hi 20:28 cait bye all 20:28 cait sleepy 19:59 * owen *thought* he'd gotten things working last time 19:59 * owen never tackles this with quite enough brain power 19:58 owen Hm, now that you mention it I wonder where I left off with that... 19:57 jcamins owen: the zebraqueue daemon didn't manage to get started, right? 19:57 wizzyrea now, even 19:57 wizzyrea sometimes the git workflow just needs to be explained. I know I understand it quite a lot better nwo 19:56 wizzyrea owen: i actually referred a web developer friend to your blog on git/branches this weekend 19:56 owen Still trying to figure out why zebra isn't working in my 3.0.x installation 19:55 pastebot "owen" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Anything look wrong here?" (54 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/40 19:48 cait yep, I never thought about renaming the branches 19:47 owen I'm glad it sounded useful. I was half expecting someone to chime in "That's a dumb way to do it." 19:46 cait owen: I use your naming scheme for branches now :) 19:46 chris Thanks 19:45 cait wb chris :) 19:44 chris Back from the bus 19:44 owen No need to apologize. I was happy to give it a shot 19:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5103 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Dates in MARC details not formatted correctly 19:44 cait owen: sorry for bug 5103 - you are right, that's why I was not able to fix it - had no idea how to do it 19:43 jcamins And a nice change from my usual repertoire. 19:43 jcamins Still very tasty. 19:43 jcamins Yeah, I could taste it when the cookies were hot, but not so much when they were cool. 19:42 wizzyrea but they were really good. 19:42 wizzyrea :) 19:42 wizzyrea I put in the requisite amount of curry... and could barely taste it 19:42 wizzyrea jcamins: I finally made the cookies 19:41 * cait waits and listens 19:41 cait someone else around here wants his ohloh account added to about.pl? 19:41 jcamins I like cooking in large quantities. 19:41 jcamins When it's not zucchini products, it's something else. 19:41 cait not sure if I should be glad or sad that there is no chocolate in this apartment 19:41 jcamins Definitely a bigger freezer. 19:40 * jwagner thinks jcamins needs either a bigger freezer or less zucchini 19:40 cait chocolate... *sighs* 19:40 jcamins Anyway, my fiancee has told me to stop leaving so much unhealthy baked goods around the apartment. 19:40 jcamins jwagner: my freezer is too full of zucchini bread. 19:40 * owen hops in the car 19:40 jwagner jcamins, that's what freezers are for, isn't it? 19:39 jcamins It's really good, but I have a giant cake, and it's only me in the apartment. 19:39 jcamins Speaking of chocolate, if anyone happens to be in NYC today or tomorrow, I'll give you some chocolate zucchini cake. 19:38 jwagner Or maybe a food bribery answer, like "Only if I get chocolate!" 19:38 jwagner eightball needs a food distraction answer too, I think. 19:37 cait yeah, I think exactly that will happen... 19:37 owen :D 19:37 munin cait: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing! 19:37 cait @eightball will I finish text for flyer tomorrow? 19:36 owen Someone could do "user-999" and break someone's heart 19:36 munin cait: Error: "sees" is not a valid command. 19:36 cait munin sees all... 19:36 munin cait: Karma for "owen" has been increased 145 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 140. 19:36 cait @karma owen 19:36 cait owen+++ 19:35 cait perhaps with a lot of ++++? 19:35 owen It wouldn't be fair to be able to do that 19:35 munin cait: Karma for "owen" has been increased 145 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 140. 19:35 cait @karma owen 19:35 cait owen+5 19:35 jcamins Well, I tried. ;) 19:35 jcamins Nope. 19:35 munin jcamins: Karma for "owen" has been increased 145 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 140. 19:35 jcamins @karma owen 19:35 jcamins Does that work? 19:35 jcamins owen+=5 # to offset the phenomenal unfairness 19:35 owen it's okay, it builds character! 19:34 cait not me, I think owen is great :) 19:34 * owen feels 5 cold stabs in the heart 19:34 jwagner OK, who had the nerve to decrease owen's karma??? 19:34 cait thought so :) 19:33 munin cait: Karma for "owen" has been increased 145 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 140. 19:33 cait @karma owen 19:17 cait ah ok 19:17 owen Not a big deal I guess, unless it gets spammy for some reason 19:16 owen My library might have Suggestions turned off, but if someone who knows Koha finds our site they could enter the URL for the suggestions page 19:15 cait and why would you want to hide it? 19:15 cait perhaps you can make it require login? I think there is a flag or something you can set? 19:15 cait owen: odder? 19:15 owen cait: I didn't think *anything* was done to prevent access to such pages 19:15 cait there are odder things in Koha's code 19:14 cait no, not after fixing my last 2 bugs 19:14 jwagner Does anyone else find this odd? 19:14 jwagner On the memberentrygen.tmpl, the Alternate Address section is labeled <fieldset class="rows" id="memberentry_address">, and the Alternate Contact section is labeled <fieldset class="rows" id="memberentry_altaddress"> 19:13 owen I'm happy to use an acquisition-date-sorted query of the regular catalog 19:13 cait tag cloud, authority search etc. 19:13 cait how is it done for the other pages, like tags? 19:13 owen No, just curious about it 19:12 cait you are porting the feature to 3.2? 19:12 owen Particularly since "OpacRecentAcquisitions" isn't listed in system preferences 19:11 cait die() is not very nice 19:11 owen Do we have a nicer method for blocking access to OPAC pages for which the feature has been disabled? 19:11 owen in 3.0.x's opac-recentacquisitions.pl, "die() unless C4::Context->preference("OpacRecentAcquisitions"); 19:09 jwagner The example I was trying to follow had .legend, not just legend. 19:09 cait ;) 19:09 cait karma yay :) 19:09 jwagner cait++ 19:09 jwagner cait, YAY!!! It works!!! Thanks 19:08 cait morning chris :) 19:07 cait jwagner: does it work? 19:06 owen Thanks chris--I see Koha errors there 19:06 cait $("#memberentry_address legend").html("Dumdidu"); 19:05 chris owen: you checked the main error log also? 19:01 cait I think I have a snippet that might work, I use it to help with me out with untranslatable things 19:00 cait give me a sec, have to start vb first 19:00 jwagner Both Alternate address and Alternate contact 19:00 cait which one do you want to change? 19:00 jwagner But how do I just change the section header wording? I've tried variations on html & legend & contains with no luck 18:59 jwagner Darn it, I can hide a section on the patron edit page like this: $("#entryform #memberentry_altaddress").remove(); 18:57 cait :) 18:57 jwagner But probably more interesting! 18:57 jwagner Of course, my definitions might not be the same as in a proper dictionary.... 18:56 cait sounds like a good rule to me :) 18:56 jwagner If I use the term, I should define it, right? 18:55 cait jwagner: living dictionary - cool :) 18:55 jwagner cait, colloquial for curse 18:55 * cait goes to look up cuss 18:55 owen I welcome any suggestions 18:55 owen My log file problems are not permissions-related. Got those sorted out and still nothing in the log 18:54 * jwagner proposes a daily IRC cussing session. 18:54 * owen cusses out his error logs, or lack thereof 18:54 * owen comes to jquery's defense 18:49 * jwagner cusses out jquery 18:39 jcamins Hi cait 18:38 cait hi #koha 17:43 nengard oh boy - just had a scare - weekly Facebook email said that Koha ILS page had -687 fans since last week!! And that there were no more left, but that's not true :) 17:27 kf bye all, bbl 17:00 kf owen: ok 16:54 owen I guess so: the files are owned by root 16:53 owen Could it be some kind of permissions problem? 16:53 owen I've checked the path to the log files in the conf file and they're correct 16:53 kf paul_p: booked hotel today :) 16:53 owen The sys pref only controls whether errors are displayed onscreen. They should always get written to the log as far as I know 16:52 kf there is a setting for detail of error messages - not sure it has really something to do with it 16:52 kf hm perhaps the sys pref setting? 16:50 owen Anyone know why my 3.0.x installation would not be writing errors to the logs? 16:50 kf owen: can I break this construction to more lines? 16:47 paul_p <if opadd><if name="I">Add Organisation</if><else>Modify Organisation</if> 16:47 kf such things drive me crazy 16:47 kf it's not working, and add is used in a lot of places, so can not translate it differently 16:46 kf I can not start the sentence with the verb in German 16:46 paul_p nested tmpl_if I think... 16:46 kf yep 16:46 paul_p ah, ok, gotcha 16:46 kf add ... variable .... patron 16:46 * paul_p happy to announce that the travelling-ticket for Auckland is bought for hdl & me ;-) 16:45 paul_p kf, this one is correct, isn't it ? or where is the problem 16:44 kf hm looks better here than in the template :) 16:44 kf uh 16:44 kf <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="opadd" --> Add<!-- TMPL_ELSE --> Modify<!--/TMPL_IF--> <!--TMPL_IF Name="categoryname"--> <!--TMPL_VAR Name="categoryname"--> patron<!-- TMPL_ELSE --><!--TMPL_IF Name="I"--> Organization patron<!--/TMPL_IF --><!--TMPL_IF Name="A"--> Adult patron<!--/TMPL_IF --><!--TMPL_IF Name="C"--> Child patron<!--/TMPL_IF --><!--TMPL_IF Name="P"--> Professional patron<!--/TMPL_IF --><!--TMPL_IF Name="S"--> Staff patron<!--/TMPL_IF --><!--/TMPL_IF --><!--TMP 16:44 kf the next line is more difficult 16:43 paul_p kf, no objection, and it'll be usefull for most languages I think ! 16:42 kf and it will make my life a lot easier 16:42 kf good :) just being careful 16:41 kf or any objections? there are some constructions like that 16:41 owen Of course 16:41 kf can I change it to <legend><!--TMPL_IF Name="I"-->Organization identity<!--TMPL_ELSE-->Patron identity<!--/TMPL_IF--></legend>? 16:41 kf this is not translatable (yes it is, but as single strings and it makes no sense in German) 16:40 kf <legend><!--TMPL_IF Name="I"-->Organization <!--TMPL_ELSE-->Patron <!--/TMPL_IF-->identity</legend> 16:40 kf owen: template question :) 16:38 mib_hc9r6 ok....thanks for all your help. 16:38 kf shoudl be fixed 16:37 kf paul_p: perhaps update the bug that this is in 3.06 but not in 3.2 16:37 paul_p oups. not tomorrow, he'll be away. But on wed, he should be here 16:37 paul_p iirc, the patch has been rejected by galen. mib_hc9r6 you should ask nahuel tomorrow (today, it's 7PM in france, so he's not here anymore) 16:37 kf no, it's not a complete rewrite 16:35 mib_hc9r6 I'm confused...it's in 3.06, is 3.2 a complete rewrite? 16:35 munin 04Bug 3710: enhancement, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, NEW, New script for recent acquisitions 16:35 owen http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3710 16:35 kf would be my guess 16:35 kf never added 16:35 kf it was not removed 16:32 mib_hc9r6 eek, customer not going to be too happy!!! Any ideas why it was removed? 16:32 owen mib_hc9r6: Actually that page will not even exist in 3.2! 16:32 mib_hc9r6 ah, I see! 16:32 jcamins Ah. That explains why I've never seen it before. I don't know anything about it, then. :( 16:32 mib_hc9r6 ? - you mean it'll be sorted (is sorted) in 3.2? 16:31 owen Ah, it's a 3.0.x-only thing jcamins 16:29 mib_hc9r6 http://x.x.x.x:8080/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/recentacquisitions.pl 16:29 owen What is the URL of the page you're looking at? 16:29 mib_hc9r6 3.06 16:29 owen mib_hc9r6: What version are you running? 16:29 mib_hc9r6 there is a page for recent acquisitions, that's were I'm having the problems! 16:28 jcamins I think owen had a blog post about setting up an RSS feed for that, didn't he? 16:28 mib_hc9r6 sorry, recent acq 16:28 kf although it would be nice to have a page for recent acquisitions :) 16:27 kf there is none 16:24 jcamins I'm not sure. I can't find any page like that. 16:22 kf ah, I thought he means recently cataloged titles 16:21 jcamins mib_hc9r6: where is the recent additions page? 16:21 mib_hc9r6 I did, that's what I meant above, sorry, should have been more clear! 16:21 kf http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 16:20 kf perhaps use -r option to rebuild from scratch 16:20 mib_hc9r6 thanks 16:20 mib_hc9r6 thansl 16:20 kf let me search the links for you 16:20 mib_hc9r6 The dups are gone but this remains! 16:20 kf normally an index problem, there is a faq about that 16:20 mib_hc9r6 I though this might be conencted so I rebuild the indexes 16:19 mib_hc9r6 a strange thing happened just after the install where duplicate bibs where appearing on the search 16:19 kf hm 16:19 mib_hc9r6 yeah, and I have even rebuild them this afternoon just to test 16:18 kf have you set up rebuild_zebra with -b -z as cronjob? 16:18 kf look like an indexing problem 16:14 mib_hc9r6 Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1269. 16:14 mib_hc9r6 I'm pushing my luck here but any idea why Recent Additions shows this error: 16:10 mib_hc9r6 Thanks, I am just wondering turning this on fixed something else! we'll see how it goes! 16:07 kf mib_hc9r6: it's for libraries with only 1 branch, where it does not make sense to have this information 16:07 kf mib_hc9r6: it hides the branches in multiple places - with single branch on there is no facet for libraries in facetted searching, no pickup location field for holds etc. 16:06 kf nengard - there is a serious bugs with opac holds and singlebranchmode 16:06 kf holds are not working 15:54 mib_hc9r6 Thanks, I will look into why it was on! 15:52 nengard if there are multiple branches, it's good that you turned it off - i know there are a few bugs that mention that preference (I don't remember all the issues) 15:47 mib_hc9r6 Yes it was on, that has resolved the problem. any ideas if that will effect anything else? there are 2 branches, not sure why that was on 15:46 mib_hc9r6 I will check.... 15:43 kf mib_hc9r6 not easy to type 15:41 kf mib_hc936: have you set singlebranchmode to on? 15:41 kf jwagner: if nothing has changed since 3.01.61 - or one mail for each item. We use digest for our libraries. 15:38 kf jwagner: I think item due digest only works with count 15:19 mib_hc9r6 Could anyone suggest why my Location is always empty on the holding screen in OPAC? It's fine in staffpac. version is 3.06 15:07 jwagner I don't usually set the DUE msg up to run, was hoping to hear from someone who does run it what the "real" behavior is. 15:07 jwagner Overdues group everything together, but maybe the DUE messages don't, because they're not processed by a cron like the overdues. 15:06 jwagner To the best of my knowledge, (pending some current devel I think), the digest messages can only give a count: You have <<count>> items due. 15:05 nengard but you're saying it's either a number of total due OR one item per email? 15:04 nengard what i'm saying is that i thought the digest listed them all in one and the regular listed one title at a time 15:03 jwagner That's what I thought too, but I'm seeing separate emails for each title. 15:03 nengard :) 15:03 nengard which means I too need clarification for documentation purposes 15:02 nengard i thought it listed everything in one email ... maybe i misunderstood what it does 15:02 jwagner nengard, but digest just gives a count, doesn't it? 14:59 briceSanc because i'm testing the z39.50 search 14:58 briceSanc is "z3950daemon" still exists in koha 3.2 ? 14:48 nengard yup - you have to choose digest to get them all in one email 14:48 nengard jwagner, you have to choose the digest option don't you? I'll go check and see if there is a digest option 14:39 jwagner Hmmm. I thought the Item Due Reminder was supposed to send out one message for everything due today <<items.content>> -- can anyone confirm? I'm seeing at least one case where it's sending a separate email for each item that's due on the same day. 14:31 briceSanc goooood moorrrrning Koha 1 14:30 owen Hi wizzyrea 14:30 wizzyrea good morning 14:28 owen Hm... English strings in tags.js. Those won't be getting translated. 14:11 magnus oh well... ;-) 14:10 magnus hm probably not... 14:09 nengard magnus, I don't know if you have admin rights to 'move' pages - which is how you 'rename' pages on mediawiki 13:45 magnus or i could do it some day, if you think it's a good idea 13:43 nengard this is true, maybe I'll go through and rename them one day :) hehe 13:43 magnus nengard: cool! but it has to be edited by hand... if the names of meetings started with the date like yyyy-mm-dd it would get sorted on the category page. just a thought... 13:41 nengard the page I sent is the organized one 13:41 nengard that's just a category - and it sorts automatically in alpha - i agree it's a lot going on 13:41 nengard magnus - how about like this? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings :) 13:36 * magnus thinks this page could be more helpful: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:IRC_Meetings 13:36 nengard time for some breakfast - be back soon 13:35 nengard maybe i'm wrong - but i think there are still blockers ... right? 13:34 nengard release 13:34 jwagner the meeting, or the release? 13:34 nengard hmm - not sure that's going to happen .. tomorrow that is 13:33 jwagner At the last dev meeting, it was said it would be ready by the next dev meeting, which is tomorrow, I think. 13:30 owen mib_hc9r6: I know many of us were hoping this month. Note that several libraries are already running in production right now 13:19 mib_hc9r6 Hello all, does anyone have a rough idea when 3.2 might go stable?......roughly! 13:09 * owen feels the sting of nengard's whip 13:08 nengard Just a reminder that I need newsletter articles by the 13th so I can get the newsletter out on time - I only have 2 articles so far - so think up some tips or announcements and email them to me 12:42 nengard monday morning open source humor: http://osliving.com/sourced/open-source-humor/open-source-culture-as-seen-through-comic-strips/ 12:40 owen It's arbitrary though, and not required. 12:40 owen If I have three items attached to one bibliographic record I might want to label them Copy 1, Copy 2, and Copy 3 12:39 dritan what is Copy number 12:36 owen dritan: You should have a separate item record for each copy 12:35 dritan i want to know how set number of copies to a record on koha 12:34 dritan hello 12:25 kf it takes a while to get used to it, but you get faster remembering the vocabulary by time 12:23 kf and only then I realized how difficult German is, they have even 2 more cases 12:23 jwagner Dunno about trying to learn Japanese. I sang with a chorale group one year and we performed several Japanese songs. But only the Japanese members knew what we were singing. The rest of us just had to learn it syllable by syllable. 12:23 kf I learned Russian at school 12:22 jwagner English doesn't have that so it was a big conceptual leap. 12:22 kf jwagner: you should try japanese - no problems with gender there 12:21 kf jwagner: true :) 12:20 jwagner Not so much that, but the genders. I had already struggled with the concept learning French that nouns have masculine and feminine genders. German added a third neutral gender to the mix! 12:20 kf but wait until you hear me speak English - not sure how this will work out. :) 12:19 kf declensions and cases 12:18 jwagner I know German really confused me when I was trying to learn it. 12:15 kf I think English is a lot easier than German 12:15 * owen would not want to have to learn English the hard way 12:15 kf I knew it did sound strange 12:15 kf thx owen :) 12:14 owen furthest from the printer 12:14 owen "furthest" 12:14 kf can you say most far away? 12:13 kf *sighs* I swear my office is most far away from the printer :( 12:13 kf ah, now I know why I walked down the hall... print outs 12:13 kf :) 12:13 nengard the difference between a librarian and a non-librarian - I have the docs all filed neatly 12:12 kf but west plaza is a bit more expensive - hope travelodge will be ok to 12:12 nengard was just emailing hubby to ask him to find me the confirmation cause I booked the flight and he did the hotel 12:12 nengard Thank you Chris!!! :) hehe 12:12 nengard morning owen 12:12 kf chris :) 12:12 nengard how do you know where I am? I can't find my confirmation :) hehe 12:12 kf ;) 12:12 kf nengard: you are in west plaza, I am in travelodge 12:07 nengard I forget which one we're in ... off to check my records 12:07 nengard kf which hotel did you choose? 12:07 nengard hehe 11:58 * jwagner thanks kf, but would rather get plane tickets :-) 11:55 * kf sends jwagner a chocolate chip cookie 11:48 kf ooh :( 11:47 * jwagner is jealous 11:47 kf :) 11:47 kf flight booked, hotel booked 11:47 * kf is happy 11:47 kf no 11:45 jwagner sounds ....painful 11:44 * kf is bouncing bit 11:37 jwagner Hi kf 11:36 kf hi jwagner :) 11:24 jwagner Morning Amit 11:23 Amit heya jwagner 10:04 kf hi Amit 10:04 chris hi Amit 10:03 Amit heya chris, kf 09:13 magnus kf++ 09:13 magnus good idea! 09:13 kf ok, i will ask around a bit more and send a patch :) 09:12 magnus oh, please do! 09:12 kf magnus: I wanted to add my ohloh account to the about page - want me to add yours too? 09:12 magnus hiya kf, chris and #koha 09:11 kf hi magnus 09:11 chris heh 09:11 * magnus started Colloquy, forgot to join #koha... 08:32 kf oh, not online 08:32 kf magnus: around? 08:31 kf hi paul_p :) 08:26 chris hi paul_p i hope the holiday was good 08:25 * paul_p is back from holiday. good morning world !!!! 08:21 kf ok 08:11 chris certainly addng yours is fine, probably nicest to ask others before you do though 08:10 kf do you think it's ok to add some more links to ohloh to the about page? not sure if I should ask people first, but wanted to add mine and noticed some other are missing too 08:09 kf hi chris 08:01 chris evening 06:44 alex_a good morning kf 06:43 kf good morning hdl and alex_a 05:35 kf robin: patch applied :) works great (as expected) 05:29 kf later :) 05:29 * robin has to head off now, later! 05:29 robin cool :) 05:28 robin in this case, it was that the thousands seperator was being set, but not the one specifically for money. And so, it was pulling the default from the locale. 05:28 kf it's working... still really early here 05:28 kf it's not that I don't believe it's work - more that I want to learn how it works :) 05:27 kf perfect :) 05:26 robin well, 10000.00 05:26 robin Yeah, that's what it does. 05:26 kf like in every other place in koha 05:26 kf I think it should show as 10000 05:26 kf but not sure what has changed now :) 05:26 kf yep I know how it looks 05:25 robin You should know, you reported the bug in the first place :) 05:24 robin well, the problem was it was populating the edit box with (e.g.) 10,000.00, which wasn't valid if you hit save. 05:24 kf but not sure how your change affects the format for editing - will test it :) 05:23 kf :) 05:23 kf right 05:23 robin kf: no, not for editing. For display, sure, but with editing it's best to be as simple as possible. 05:22 kf I think the formatting shoudl follow the sys pref 05:22 kf robin: looking at it, not sure I understand it and wondering 05:22 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4500 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Cant edit budget because of currency formatting 05:22 robin kf: just upstreamed a patch you may be interested in: bug 4500 05:21 kf good morning #koha